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01-08-2004, 08:57 PM
87974-87998
87974 From: AzVJC Website <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:30pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
Hello All,Sharky is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 08/16/03 at 9:00a.m.
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All day or until we get me back
CB Channel:
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=960
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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87975 From: AzVJC Website <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:30pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Sharky is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 08/16/03 at 9:00a.m.
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All day or until we get me back
CB Channel:
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=960
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
87976 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:42pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
Hello All,Stu Olson is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 7:00 AM (almost the early bird run)
Where: Castle Hot Springs Road, by the last entrance to the toll booth by the lake, just where it turns from asphalt to gravel<br>
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: 4
We'll put out promptly at 7:00 AM and will be hot on the heels of Hackle's six o'clock group! Come prepared, bring LOTS of water and something to eat, check out your rig ahead of time (all your fluids, tires, etc.), spare parts if you have a habit of breaking things, etc.
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=961
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
87977 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:43pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
it's to early for coffee at that time but it gives us more time to enjoy the
bars LOL!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: <joey@D...>; "'AzVJC'" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
16, 2003
> We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join Hackles "bring
> your coffee" run. ;)
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
> 16, 2003
>
> Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail
> run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: Saturday the 16th of
> August
> Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
> Rating: 3.0-
> Length: All DAY
> CB Channel:
>
> Annual Crown King Run<br>
> <br>
> This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King.<br>
> <br>
> Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
> year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
> Creek even the Crown King road was trip.<br>
> <br>
> More details to follow as details get ironed out.<br>
> <br>
> Joey K<br>
> 93YJ
>
> The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given
> weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
> motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail
> into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
> href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by
> AzVJC.</a>
>
> The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through
> the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
> Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections
> that can make it interesting.
>
> The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle,
> both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains.
> All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort
> Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
> usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
>
> In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to
> Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
> start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
>
> Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and
> into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink,
> and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King
> Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years
> ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into
> the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the
> rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place
> repose for women of ill fame.
>
> There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those
> wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
> which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and
> go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker,
> or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
>
> Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
> Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you
> have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to
> the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can
> join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
>
> Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
>
> Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
> Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
87978 From: <febu15@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:34pm
Subject: Fwd: hay
This is some pretty good advice...hopefully it will help all...
Paul
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87979 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:39pm
Subject: OT-someone know of a good International Scout Forum
Just what it says, buddy has a 1961 International Harvester Scout and
would like to find some info on axle ID and other stuff for lifting
and misc. Any info would help as we have been searching the internet
with no luck. TIA Jeff CamoXJ
87980 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:55pm
Subject: Re: Camp Verde area
I thought light riders meant you had rock lights. Couldn't resist...
I don't know too many trails in Camp Verde. You might want to
contact Zman on the JU - Rubicon forum. He lives in Camp
Verde.
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&for
umid=94
Have a good day
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "katvans1" <rjentaz@d...> wrote:
>
> Going to a campground in Camp Verde area this Fri for
weekend and
> towing the TJ for the first time. I guess we are what you
> call "light riders" ie: lifted, 33s, winch and disconnects. No rock
> crawling, mostly sightseeing.
>
> Can anyone inform us of interesting trails in that area in the
range
> of 2 to 3
> max that we can run? We will be traveling by ourselves unless
we
> find someone to run with.
>
> Thank you all for any help.
>
> Rich in Cave Creek
87981 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Thanks Bob, when we get to it this weekend you might get mail.
Anyone else? Linda? I know you have had your problems, oops
challenges, with your old ZJ. lol
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> James,
> I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
couple
> of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
located
> on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
out of
> it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it was
> full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure
it
> was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off and
take
> it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
similar.
> HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> CANT W8
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> (below is
> > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
expecting
> me to
> > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
replaced
> the fuel
> > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
tranny
> pump going
> > out.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --James
> >
> > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it is
old
> carb'd
> > Isuzu, lol.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > To: James.Towle@a...
> > Subject: the jeep!
> >
> >
> > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
work
> for lunch
> > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
after
> a few
> > pumps of the gas.
> > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
the
> rpms drop
> > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
Josh
> went
> > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile and
it
> starts
> > right up goes into reverse.
> > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> perfect on
> > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting up.
I
> had to
> > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like mad,
I
> give it
> > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple
fo
> minutes.
> > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> reverse and it
> > dies.
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87982 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:11pm
Subject: Re: transfer case ?
Is the fluid light pink? I'd be very concerned that it is ATF (red)
with water in it.
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bk83gold" <bk83@j...> wrote:
> My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is
it
> looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive
shaft
> and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
> is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual
trans.
> Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal?
this is
> the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also
need
> some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular
guy
> replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would
cost
> a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
> shoot me your advide it would be great.
>
> Happy Wheeling,
> Brandon
87983 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:12pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause similar
characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check to
see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds correctly
(goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
Linda
54 wagon
ex-ZJ owner
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> James,
> I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
couple
> of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is located
> on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming out
of
> it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it was
> full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure it
> was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off and
take
> it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
similar.
> HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> CANT W8
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> (below is
> > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
expecting
> me to
> > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We replaced
> the fuel
> > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the tranny
> pump going
> > out.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --James
> >
> > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it is
old
> carb'd
> > Isuzu, lol.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > To: James.Towle@a...
> > Subject: the jeep!
> >
> >
> > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from work
> for lunch
> > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
after
> a few
> > pumps of the gas.
> > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse, the
> rpms drop
> > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
Josh
> went
> > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile and
it
> starts
> > right up goes into reverse.
> > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> perfect on
> > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting up. I
> had to
> > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like mad, I
> give it
> > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple fo
> minutes.
> > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> reverse and it
> > dies.
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87984 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:24pm
Subject: Re: Posted pictures of the NV4500/AtlasII and custom skid.
What's with all that rust and unpainted metal on your Jeep?
Chris
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 04:41 PM, Joe West wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> Troy from Toys by Troy needed some shots of my transfer
> case/transmission skid arrangement so he could see if there is anything
> custom he can make for me. Since Troy needed some pictures, I just
> went
> ahead and made a quick webpage with the pictures.
>
> If you want to look at the pictures, go to:
>
> http://www.flatfendertj.com <http://www.flatfendertj.com/>
>
> Click on Modifications and then on Transmission or Transfer Case Skid.
> either link will take you to the pictures.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87985 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:27pm
Subject: Re: Re: transfer case ?
its not the seal mine did this to,there was a pin hole in the center of the
slipshaft all i did was pull the shaft clean the spot in the center between
the u-joint and slipshaft and put some rightstuff sealer on it put it back
in and no more leak!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: transfer case ?
> Is the fluid light pink? I'd be very concerned that it is ATF (red)
> with water in it.
>
> Brad
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bk83gold" <bk83@j...> wrote:
> > My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is
> it
> > looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive
> shaft
> > and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
> > is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual
> trans.
> > Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal?
> this is
> > the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also
> need
> > some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular
> guy
> > replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would
> cost
> > a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
> > shoot me your advide it would be great.
> >
> > Happy Wheeling,
> > Brandon
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87986 From: KurtASinger <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:40pm
Subject: Re: Camp Verde area
Somebody needs to turn you on to some of the "Pink Jeep" trails in
Sedona.--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Tony Axtell <tony@i...> wrote:
> Checkout Fossil Creek and childs power plant.
>
>
> also some 4x4 access around beaver creek.
>
> Unless closed :\
>
> Tony 78CJ5
>
> katvans1 wrote:
> > Going to a campground in Camp Verde area this Fri for weekend and
> > towing the TJ for the first time. I guess we are what you
> > call "light riders" ie: lifted, 33s, winch and disconnects. No
rock
> > crawling, mostly sightseeing.
> >
> > Can anyone inform us of interesting trails in that area in the
range
> > of 2 to 3
> > max that we can run? We will be traveling by ourselves unless we
> > find someone to run with.
> >
> > Thank you all for any help.
> >
> > Rich in Cave Creek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> > .
> >
87987 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:48pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
If it is the TPS it will be sucking down quite a bit of fuel too,
correct? (I have no idea if it is or not, I will ask)
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause
similar
> characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check
to
> see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds
correctly
> (goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
>
> I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
>
> Linda
> 54 wagon
> ex-ZJ owner
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > James,
> > I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
> couple
> > of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
located
> > on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
out
> of
> > it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it
was
> > full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> > changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure
it
> > was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off
and
> take
> > it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
> similar.
> > HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> > CANT W8
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> > (below is
> > > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
> expecting
> > me to
> > > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
replaced
> > the fuel
> > > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
tranny
> > pump going
> > > out.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it
is
> old
> > carb'd
> > > Isuzu, lol.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > To: James.Towle@a...
> > > Subject: the jeep!
> > >
> > >
> > > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
work
> > for lunch
> > > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
> after
> > a few
> > > pumps of the gas.
> > > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
the
> > rpms drop
> > > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
> Josh
> > went
> > > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile
and
> it
> > starts
> > > right up goes into reverse.
> > > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> > perfect on
> > > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting
up. I
> > had to
> > > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like
mad, I
> > give it
> > > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple
fo
> > minutes.
> > > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> > reverse and it
> > > dies.
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87988 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 10:21pm
Subject: Interior lights stay on
My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
TIA,
Larry
87989 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:07am
Subject: Re: TJ bumpstop help
You answered your own question... hockey pucks. I'd start by staking
3 on your spring perch and go from there. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Luse" <graymatterwj@y...>
wrote:
> OK,
> Long arm is ordered but in the mean time I have a BB and 1" BL on
my
> TJ. I have 33/12.5s on there now and I am taking a trip to
> Colorado. I need to add in bumpstop extentions or hockey pucks to
> prevent rubbing. Any ideas? This is only a short term deal so I
> don't want to make any permaent mods bc long arms should be here
in a
> few weeks. TIA
> Brian
87990 From: bjquitalib <bjquitalib@y...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:13am
Subject: Stock Jeeps
Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to do
to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Bing
87991 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:46am
Subject: Re: Stock Jeeps
Hi there,
The first thing I would add are quick disco's for your front sway
bar.
Jason
www.4x4groupbuy.com
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bjquitalib" <bjquitalib@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
> I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
> all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
> do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
> tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to
do
> to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
> things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Bing
87992 From: Michael Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:31am
Subject: Re: Attn. Mike Chatfield
Unfortunately it isn't a "real" database. Just an access mdb file that is opened using Microsoft Jet. Everyonce in a while the Jet engine dies and needs to be reset. I could probably write a utility that constantly hits a single webpage looking for that error. Instead I'm working (when I can) to move the AzVJC to an actual SQL Server database, after which all of these problems should go away completely.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
Reply-To: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:22 -0700
>Hey Mike, looks like the azvjc.org site is down again. It's my understanding
>that when this happens, it is a database server that has gone down and you
>end up having to send an email to someone to restart the server. Assuming
>this is all true, would it be possible to write a utility that would "ping" the
>database server and send the email automatically whenever the server cannot
>be "ping-ed"? This would hopefully minimize the downtime for the site.
>
>-Roger
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
87993 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:11am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
This is going to sound silly, but did you make sure the dimmer switch
is not turned up all the way past the click? Could have been done by
accident.
Chris
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 10:21 PM, highjeeps wrote:
> My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
> staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
> juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
> fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
> this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
> lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
> closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
> normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
> likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
> TIA,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87994 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:11am
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Good question! Having a faulty TPS could cause higher gas
consumption, especially if the TPS is sticking. It can also cause low
idle and stalling. The newer TPSs have dust boots and that has
reduced TPS failures.
Do you have an FSM for your TJ? This would be the best place to
start. It should have the same sensor diagnostic information that
would be used on the ZJ (4.0L and 5.2L). There isn't any major
differences except for locations. All you need is a voltmeter to
check most of them.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it is the TPS it will be sucking down quite a bit of fuel too,
> correct? (I have no idea if it is or not, I will ask)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause
> similar
> > characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check
> to
> > see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds
> correctly
> > (goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
> >
> > I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
> >
> > Linda
> > 54 wagon
> > ex-ZJ owner
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > > James,
> > > I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
> > couple
> > > of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
> located
> > > on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
> out
> > of
> > > it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it
> was
> > > full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I
also
> > > changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm
sure
> it
> > > was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off
> and
> > take
> > > it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
> > similar.
> > > HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> > > Bob
> > > 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> > > CANT W8
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's
ZJ?
> > > (below is
> > > > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > > > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
> > expecting
> > > me to
> > > > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
> replaced
> > > the fuel
> > > > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
> tranny
> > > pump going
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > --James
> > > >
> > > > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it
> is
> > old
> > > carb'd
> > > > Isuzu, lol.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > > To: James.Towle@a...
> > > > Subject: the jeep!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
> work
> > > for lunch
> > > > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started
up
> > after
> > > a few
> > > > pumps of the gas.
> > > > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
> the
> > > rpms drop
> > > > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me
and
> > Josh
> > > went
> > > > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile
> and
> > it
> > > starts
> > > > right up goes into reverse.
> > > > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem.
Runs
> > > perfect on
> > > > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting
> up. I
> > > had to
> > > > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like
> mad, I
> > > give it
> > > > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > > > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a
couple
> fo
> > > minutes.
> > > > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> > > reverse and it
> > > > dies.
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87995 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:01am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
Silly or not, I'll entertain all suggestions. :-)
Yes, that's the headlight/parkinglight pull-out switch is pushed all
the way in and is turned all the way to the left, past the click,
such that the interior lighting should be off (maybe this switch went
bad).
Larry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...> wrote:
> This is going to sound silly, but did you make sure the dimmer
switch
> is not turned up all the way past the click? Could have been done
by
> accident.
>
> Chris
>
87996 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:14am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
I'm guessing it might also be the switch that activates when you open the
door. Check to make sure the switch still works with a cheap continuity
tester. Might be the drivers or passenger side.
Bill
--------------
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http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Interior lights stay on
> My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
> staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
> juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
> fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
> this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
> lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
> closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
> normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
> likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
> TIA,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
87997 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:29am
Subject: Re: OT-someone know of a good International Scout Forum
There is a Scout forum over on POR.
http://www.pirate4x4.com
Look under "International Harverster Talk".
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> Just what it says, buddy has a 1961 International Harvester Scout
and
> would like to find some info on axle ID and other stuff for lifting
> and misc. Any info would help as we have been searching the
internet
> with no luck. TIA Jeff CamoXJ
87998 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:45am
Subject: Re: Stock Jeeps
"Fully offroad capable" is very subjective. Furthermore, "2.5 - 3.5
trail" and "fully offroad capable" do not mean the same thing to me.
In any case, to do trails at the 2.5 end of that range, I don't think
you need to do any upgrades. To do trails at the 3.5 end of that
range, I suggest a small-to-moderate lift (3"), bigger mud-tread
tires (31"), front sway bar disconnects, and a high lift jack. A
locker at one end would be "icing on the cake".
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bjquitalib" <bjquitalib@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
> I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
> all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
> do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
> tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to do
> to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
> things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Bing
87974 From: AzVJC Website <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:30pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
Hello All,Sharky is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 08/16/03 at 9:00a.m.
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All day or until we get me back
CB Channel:
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=960
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
87975 From: AzVJC Website <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:30pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Sharky is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 08/16/03 at 9:00a.m.
Where:
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All day or until we get me back
CB Channel:
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=960
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
87976 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:42pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
Hello All,Stu Olson is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 7:00 AM (almost the early bird run)
Where: Castle Hot Springs Road, by the last entrance to the toll booth by the lake, just where it turns from asphalt to gravel<br>
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: 4
We'll put out promptly at 7:00 AM and will be hot on the heels of Hackle's six o'clock group! Come prepared, bring LOTS of water and something to eat, check out your rig ahead of time (all your fluids, tires, etc.), spare parts if you have a habit of breaking things, etc.
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=961
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
87977 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:43pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003
it's to early for coffee at that time but it gives us more time to enjoy the
bars LOL!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: <joey@D...>; "'AzVJC'" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
16, 2003
> We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join Hackles "bring
> your coffee" run. ;)
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
> 16, 2003
>
> Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail
> run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: Saturday the 16th of
> August
> Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
> Rating: 3.0-
> Length: All DAY
> CB Channel:
>
> Annual Crown King Run<br>
> <br>
> This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King.<br>
> <br>
> Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
> year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
> Creek even the Crown King road was trip.<br>
> <br>
> More details to follow as details get ironed out.<br>
> <br>
> Joey K<br>
> 93YJ
>
> The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given
> weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
> motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail
> into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
> href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by
> AzVJC.</a>
>
> The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through
> the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
> Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections
> that can make it interesting.
>
> The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle,
> both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains.
> All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort
> Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
> usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
>
> In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to
> Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
> start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
>
> Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and
> into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink,
> and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King
> Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years
> ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into
> the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the
> rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place
> repose for women of ill fame.
>
> There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those
> wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
> which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and
> go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker,
> or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
>
> Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
> Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you
> have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to
> the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can
> join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
>
> Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
>
> Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
> Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
87978 From: <febu15@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:34pm
Subject: Fwd: hay
This is some pretty good advice...hopefully it will help all...
Paul
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87979 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:39pm
Subject: OT-someone know of a good International Scout Forum
Just what it says, buddy has a 1961 International Harvester Scout and
would like to find some info on axle ID and other stuff for lifting
and misc. Any info would help as we have been searching the internet
with no luck. TIA Jeff CamoXJ
87980 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 8:55pm
Subject: Re: Camp Verde area
I thought light riders meant you had rock lights. Couldn't resist...
I don't know too many trails in Camp Verde. You might want to
contact Zman on the JU - Rubicon forum. He lives in Camp
Verde.
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&for
umid=94
Have a good day
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "katvans1" <rjentaz@d...> wrote:
>
> Going to a campground in Camp Verde area this Fri for
weekend and
> towing the TJ for the first time. I guess we are what you
> call "light riders" ie: lifted, 33s, winch and disconnects. No rock
> crawling, mostly sightseeing.
>
> Can anyone inform us of interesting trails in that area in the
range
> of 2 to 3
> max that we can run? We will be traveling by ourselves unless
we
> find someone to run with.
>
> Thank you all for any help.
>
> Rich in Cave Creek
87981 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Thanks Bob, when we get to it this weekend you might get mail.
Anyone else? Linda? I know you have had your problems, oops
challenges, with your old ZJ. lol
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> James,
> I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
couple
> of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
located
> on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
out of
> it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it was
> full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure
it
> was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off and
take
> it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
similar.
> HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> CANT W8
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> (below is
> > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
expecting
> me to
> > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
replaced
> the fuel
> > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
tranny
> pump going
> > out.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --James
> >
> > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it is
old
> carb'd
> > Isuzu, lol.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > To: James.Towle@a...
> > Subject: the jeep!
> >
> >
> > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
work
> for lunch
> > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
after
> a few
> > pumps of the gas.
> > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
the
> rpms drop
> > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
Josh
> went
> > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile and
it
> starts
> > right up goes into reverse.
> > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> perfect on
> > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting up.
I
> had to
> > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like mad,
I
> give it
> > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple
fo
> minutes.
> > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> reverse and it
> > dies.
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87982 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:11pm
Subject: Re: transfer case ?
Is the fluid light pink? I'd be very concerned that it is ATF (red)
with water in it.
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bk83gold" <bk83@j...> wrote:
> My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is
it
> looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive
shaft
> and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
> is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual
trans.
> Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal?
this is
> the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also
need
> some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular
guy
> replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would
cost
> a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
> shoot me your advide it would be great.
>
> Happy Wheeling,
> Brandon
87983 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:12pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause similar
characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check to
see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds correctly
(goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
Linda
54 wagon
ex-ZJ owner
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> James,
> I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
couple
> of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is located
> on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming out
of
> it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it was
> full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure it
> was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off and
take
> it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
similar.
> HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> CANT W8
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
wrote:
> >
> > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> (below is
> > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
expecting
> me to
> > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We replaced
> the fuel
> > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the tranny
> pump going
> > out.
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > --James
> >
> > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it is
old
> carb'd
> > Isuzu, lol.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > To: James.Towle@a...
> > Subject: the jeep!
> >
> >
> > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from work
> for lunch
> > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
after
> a few
> > pumps of the gas.
> > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse, the
> rpms drop
> > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
Josh
> went
> > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile and
it
> starts
> > right up goes into reverse.
> > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> perfect on
> > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting up. I
> had to
> > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like mad, I
> give it
> > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple fo
> minutes.
> > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> reverse and it
> > dies.
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87984 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:24pm
Subject: Re: Posted pictures of the NV4500/AtlasII and custom skid.
What's with all that rust and unpainted metal on your Jeep?
Chris
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 04:41 PM, Joe West wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> Troy from Toys by Troy needed some shots of my transfer
> case/transmission skid arrangement so he could see if there is anything
> custom he can make for me. Since Troy needed some pictures, I just
> went
> ahead and made a quick webpage with the pictures.
>
> If you want to look at the pictures, go to:
>
> http://www.flatfendertj.com <http://www.flatfendertj.com/>
>
> Click on Modifications and then on Transmission or Transfer Case Skid.
> either link will take you to the pictures.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87985 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:27pm
Subject: Re: Re: transfer case ?
its not the seal mine did this to,there was a pin hole in the center of the
slipshaft all i did was pull the shaft clean the spot in the center between
the u-joint and slipshaft and put some rightstuff sealer on it put it back
in and no more leak!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: transfer case ?
> Is the fluid light pink? I'd be very concerned that it is ATF (red)
> with water in it.
>
> Brad
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bk83gold" <bk83@j...> wrote:
> > My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is
> it
> > looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive
> shaft
> > and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
> > is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual
> trans.
> > Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal?
> this is
> > the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also
> need
> > some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular
> guy
> > replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would
> cost
> > a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
> > shoot me your advide it would be great.
> >
> > Happy Wheeling,
> > Brandon
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87986 From: KurtASinger <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:40pm
Subject: Re: Camp Verde area
Somebody needs to turn you on to some of the "Pink Jeep" trails in
Sedona.--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Tony Axtell <tony@i...> wrote:
> Checkout Fossil Creek and childs power plant.
>
>
> also some 4x4 access around beaver creek.
>
> Unless closed :\
>
> Tony 78CJ5
>
> katvans1 wrote:
> > Going to a campground in Camp Verde area this Fri for weekend and
> > towing the TJ for the first time. I guess we are what you
> > call "light riders" ie: lifted, 33s, winch and disconnects. No
rock
> > crawling, mostly sightseeing.
> >
> > Can anyone inform us of interesting trails in that area in the
range
> > of 2 to 3
> > max that we can run? We will be traveling by ourselves unless we
> > find someone to run with.
> >
> > Thank you all for any help.
> >
> > Rich in Cave Creek
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> > .
> >
87987 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 9:48pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
If it is the TPS it will be sucking down quite a bit of fuel too,
correct? (I have no idea if it is or not, I will ask)
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause
similar
> characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check
to
> see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds
correctly
> (goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
>
> I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
>
> Linda
> 54 wagon
> ex-ZJ owner
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > James,
> > I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
> couple
> > of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
located
> > on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
out
> of
> > it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it
was
> > full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
> > changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure
it
> > was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off
and
> take
> > it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
> similar.
> > HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> > CANT W8
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
> > (below is
> > > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
> expecting
> > me to
> > > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
replaced
> > the fuel
> > > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
tranny
> > pump going
> > > out.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it
is
> old
> > carb'd
> > > Isuzu, lol.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > To: James.Towle@a...
> > > Subject: the jeep!
> > >
> > >
> > > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
work
> > for lunch
> > > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up
> after
> > a few
> > > pumps of the gas.
> > > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
the
> > rpms drop
> > > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and
> Josh
> > went
> > > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile
and
> it
> > starts
> > > right up goes into reverse.
> > > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
> > perfect on
> > > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting
up. I
> > had to
> > > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like
mad, I
> > give it
> > > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple
fo
> > minutes.
> > > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> > reverse and it
> > > dies.
> > > ------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87988 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 10:21pm
Subject: Interior lights stay on
My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
TIA,
Larry
87989 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:07am
Subject: Re: TJ bumpstop help
You answered your own question... hockey pucks. I'd start by staking
3 on your spring perch and go from there. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brian Luse" <graymatterwj@y...>
wrote:
> OK,
> Long arm is ordered but in the mean time I have a BB and 1" BL on
my
> TJ. I have 33/12.5s on there now and I am taking a trip to
> Colorado. I need to add in bumpstop extentions or hockey pucks to
> prevent rubbing. Any ideas? This is only a short term deal so I
> don't want to make any permaent mods bc long arms should be here
in a
> few weeks. TIA
> Brian
87990 From: bjquitalib <bjquitalib@y...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:13am
Subject: Stock Jeeps
Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to do
to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
suggestions?
Thanks,
Bing
87991 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:46am
Subject: Re: Stock Jeeps
Hi there,
The first thing I would add are quick disco's for your front sway
bar.
Jason
www.4x4groupbuy.com
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bjquitalib" <bjquitalib@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
> I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
> all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
> do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
> tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to
do
> to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
> things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Bing
87992 From: Michael Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:31am
Subject: Re: Attn. Mike Chatfield
Unfortunately it isn't a "real" database. Just an access mdb file that is opened using Microsoft Jet. Everyonce in a while the Jet engine dies and needs to be reset. I could probably write a utility that constantly hits a single webpage looking for that error. Instead I'm working (when I can) to move the AzVJC to an actual SQL Server database, after which all of these problems should go away completely.
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
Reply-To: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 15:57:22 -0700
>Hey Mike, looks like the azvjc.org site is down again. It's my understanding
>that when this happens, it is a database server that has gone down and you
>end up having to send an email to someone to restart the server. Assuming
>this is all true, would it be possible to write a utility that would "ping" the
>database server and send the email automatically whenever the server cannot
>be "ping-ed"? This would hopefully minimize the downtime for the site.
>
>-Roger
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
87993 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:11am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
This is going to sound silly, but did you make sure the dimmer switch
is not turned up all the way past the click? Could have been done by
accident.
Chris
On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 10:21 PM, highjeeps wrote:
> My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
> staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
> juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
> fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
> this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
> lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
> closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
> normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
> likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
> TIA,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
87994 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 7:11am
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!
Good question! Having a faulty TPS could cause higher gas
consumption, especially if the TPS is sticking. It can also cause low
idle and stalling. The newer TPSs have dust boots and that has
reduced TPS failures.
Do you have an FSM for your TJ? This would be the best place to
start. It should have the same sensor diagnostic information that
would be used on the ZJ (4.0L and 5.2L). There isn't any major
differences except for locations. All you need is a voltmeter to
check most of them.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it is the TPS it will be sucking down quite a bit of fuel too,
> correct? (I have no idea if it is or not, I will ask)
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Sounds about right. I would also check the TPS. It can cause
> similar
> > characteristics. I no longer have a ZJ manual, but you can check
> to
> > see if it goes through a range on a voltmeter and responds
> correctly
> > (goes up and down and doesn't stick) when you rev the engine.
> >
> > I think you can buy the TPS at autozone now.
> >
> > Linda
> > 54 wagon
> > ex-ZJ owner
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "CANT W8" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> > > James,
> > > I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a
> > couple
> > > of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is
> located
> > > on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming
> out
> > of
> > > it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it
> was
> > > full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I
also
> > > changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm
sure
> it
> > > was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off
> and
> > take
> > > it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very
> > similar.
> > > HTH - email me if you have any questions.
> > > Bob
> > > 74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
> > > CANT W8
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's
ZJ?
> > > (below is
> > > > what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> > > > He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably
> > expecting
> > > me to
> > > > fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We
> replaced
> > > the fuel
> > > > pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the
> tranny
> > > pump going
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > >
> > > > --James
> > > >
> > > > PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it
> is
> > old
> > > carb'd
> > > > Isuzu, lol.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> > > > To: James.Towle@a...
> > > > Subject: the jeep!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from
> work
> > > for lunch
> > > > and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started
up
> > after
> > > a few
> > > > pumps of the gas.
> > > > It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse,
> the
> > > rpms drop
> > > > and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me
and
> > Josh
> > > went
> > > > outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile
> and
> > it
> > > starts
> > > > right up goes into reverse.
> > > > That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem.
Runs
> > > perfect on
> > > > the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting
> up. I
> > > had to
> > > > pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like
> mad, I
> > > give it
> > > > some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> > > > Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a
couple
> fo
> > > minutes.
> > > > It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
> > > reverse and it
> > > > dies.
> > > > ------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
87995 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:01am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
Silly or not, I'll entertain all suggestions. :-)
Yes, that's the headlight/parkinglight pull-out switch is pushed all
the way in and is turned all the way to the left, past the click,
such that the interior lighting should be off (maybe this switch went
bad).
Larry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...> wrote:
> This is going to sound silly, but did you make sure the dimmer
switch
> is not turned up all the way past the click? Could have been done
by
> accident.
>
> Chris
>
87996 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:14am
Subject: Re: Interior lights stay on
I'm guessing it might also be the switch that activates when you open the
door. Check to make sure the switch still works with a cheap continuity
tester. Might be the drivers or passenger side.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 10:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Interior lights stay on
> My 99 TJ interior lights (soundbar light and underdash light) are
> staying on and draining the battery. The only way I found to cut the
> juice to them is to remove a particular fuse in the under-hood
> fuse/relay box (next to the battery), but I'm not sure what else is in
> this particular circuit and getting disconnected along with these
> lights (my battery is too low to check operation). The doors are
> closed and the headlight/interior light switch is off, so there is no
> normal reason for these lights to stay on. Can anyone advise what the
> likely malfunction could be? I don't have a wiring diagram.
> TIA,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
87997 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:29am
Subject: Re: OT-someone know of a good International Scout Forum
There is a Scout forum over on POR.
http://www.pirate4x4.com
Look under "International Harverster Talk".
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> Just what it says, buddy has a 1961 International Harvester Scout
and
> would like to find some info on axle ID and other stuff for lifting
> and misc. Any info would help as we have been searching the
internet
> with no luck. TIA Jeff CamoXJ
87998 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:45am
Subject: Re: Stock Jeeps
"Fully offroad capable" is very subjective. Furthermore, "2.5 - 3.5
trail" and "fully offroad capable" do not mean the same thing to me.
In any case, to do trails at the 2.5 end of that range, I don't think
you need to do any upgrades. To do trails at the 3.5 end of that
range, I suggest a small-to-moderate lift (3"), bigger mud-tread
tires (31"), front sway bar disconnects, and a high lift jack. A
locker at one end would be "icing on the cake".
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "bjquitalib" <bjquitalib@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone who knows a lot about Jeeps:
> I have a 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport in Grey and it is pretty much
> all stock equipped. I am looking to take some trips offroad but I
> do not know what kind of equipment upgrades I need in order to
> tackle a 2.5 - 3.5 trail. What are some of the things I have to do
> to my Jeep to make it a fully offroad capable vehicle? What
> things should I have for sure done before I go offroad? Any
> suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Bing