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87949 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 0:36pm
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the TJs

I dont remember asking you or Chris a damn thing! ROTFLMAO

Anthony, give me a call
Sharky

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> 2 --- points chris
> sharky --- 0
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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87950 From: Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 0:44pm
Subject: Need to get rid of classic car.

I've got a 1966 Triumph Spitfire Mark 4 that I need to get rid of. It
is a complete teardown. Has little rust in the trunk. Body needs
paint. Engine ok needs all new gaskets, rings, etc.

We've got a baby on the way and I'd rather spend any available cash
on my Jeep so the Spit will continue to sit there. Needs title, but
bond title should be cheap.

All offers considered.

Thanks,
Phil

87951 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:33pm
Subject: Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ AND Thanks for Sat Night Run (Upper Ajax)

LOL, Its not "that" bad... is it??? ;p

And yeah Saturday was a loong night I definitely didnt want to go
through box again, I think I got home around 2:30

Scott Maiden

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Scott,
>
> It finally came to me, but with that interesting, uh, "bend/hump" in
> your green YJ's tub, you oughta nickname that thing "The Inchworm".
> Remember that toy from way back?
>
> BTW, I shoulda followed you guys out the quick way last Saturday
night
> after the run. It seemed to take forever to get back down and thru
Box
> Canyon to Andy's trailer. And Dave (CJ7) even managed to tear a
> sidewall in Box Canyon...go figure. Got to bed about 3:30am (yawn).
>
> Was good running with you and the Casa Grande guys. Thanks Chris L.
> and Gary M. for the run.
>
> Tom Jacobson
> '87 YJ
>
> From: Scott Maiden [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:54 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ
>
>
> Can I play too? I think you all know what I drive.... can I pick
the
> trail?? :p
>
> Scott Maiden

87952 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:34pm
Subject: Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ

Keep talking Sharky...Its the only thing your good at :p

So when is the run??

Scott Maiden

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Hell Scott...Ive seen stock TJ's that wont hide from you...last
time
> we were out I thought I was going to have to strap you up that
little
> hill....you know the one, I had just climbed it hehehe. We would
> have invited you but we did not think you liked going to the mall.
>
> Sharky
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > Aw come on, are the little Tjs afraid to come out and play??:p LOL
> > Who else needs convincing that short arms suck?? Theres gotta be
> some
> > excuse you can find to take out Troys Tj :p
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
wrote:
> > > LOL. Joe already wants one of Troys long arm kits. He's just
shy
> of
> > the
> > > steering. So I guess there won't be any showdown.
> > >
> > > On the bright side Joe will finally be getting a long arm kit.
> Can
> > I still
> > > call his TJ a weeble wobble?
> > >
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > Scott K
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Maiden [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:54 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Can I play too? I think you all know what I drive.... can I
pick
> > the
> > > trail?? :p
> > >
> > > Scott Maiden
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > Can I play too? I have an RE long arm kit and would like to
> put
> > it
> > > > to the test too once I get my rear shock bracket rewelded
onto
> my
> > > > axle.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Anderson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm calling you out to have a friendly test. Kind of like
> > > the "Pepsi
> > > > > Challenge" :D
> > > > >
> > > > > Troy is willing to loan me his white TJ for the test. We
can
> do
> > a
> > > > road test
> > > > > of it and then compare that test drive to your TJ's
> performance.
> > > > Troy has a
> > > > > really nice obstacle course that we can run both Jeeps
through
> > > > after doing
> > > > > the road test to evaluate offroad performance. Or we can
take
> > > both
> > > > out to
> > > > > one of the local trails. This can be a public or private
test,
> > > it's
> > > > your
> > > > > call on that.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think? It will be fun. I don't want to change
your
> > > > opinion, just
> > > > > allow you to develop a more informed opinion based on some
> hands
> > > on
> > > > > experience with his setup. If you still think it's crap then
> > > fine,
> > > > that's
> > > > > your opinion. At least give yourself the opportunity to
check
> it
> > > > out. I
> > > > > think this is a fair request. Who knows, maybe you'll even
> want
> > > to
> > > > purchase
> > > > > one of his kits ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > It'll be one last fun Jeep thing for us to do before I
leave
> for
> > > > Montana in
> > > > > September. Lets set a date for 2-3 weeks from now.
> > > > >
> > > > > <Grin>
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott K
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > > > To: sharxjeep; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey now!
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no correlation between welding on the frame and
> alumi-
> > > > stress
> > > > > steering... unless of course you happen to overheat the
> aluminum
> > > > during the
> > > > > welding process in which case it becomes EVEN more brittle,
> > which
> > > > could of
> > > > > course cause it to fracture even easier which could lead to
a
> > > > failure at
> > > > > high speed causing you to slam into a bus full of school
> > children
> > > > which
> > > > > would then cause the demise of the entire bus load of
children
> > > > resulting in
> > > > > the recall of all alumi-stress components ever installed
and
> the
> > > > resulting
> > > > > bankruptcy of Toys By Troy and vindication of all my
comments
> > > > regarding the
> > > > > risks of using aluminum in single point failure designs..
LOL
> > > Just
> > > > joking
> > > > > Sharky (okay... I'm not) :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: sharxjeep [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You've seen him weld Randy...do ya blame me! LOL
> > > > > With the 3 link front I need a hotter weld than his welder
can
> > > give
> > > > and I
> > > > > sure dont want my front end falling out on me because Im
sure
> > > > > that Joe West would find a way to blame it on my Alumi-
Flex
> > LOL
> > > > > Just joking Joe (ok...Im not) :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Sharky
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Davis" <luvrocks@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > so your going to have john go over ricks welds,thats smart
> > > LOL!!!
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...>
> > > > > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:00 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > A big thank you going out to Rick Norman for the
welding
> he
> > > did
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > me Sun. The rest will ber finished this week at Hunter
> > > Offroad.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

87953 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ

Everyone has to be good at something...and for that would be...? LOL
We can run as soon as I finish my mods which should be soon. But we
do have Mikes Jeep is you cant wait.

Sharky

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Keep talking Sharky...Its the only thing your good at :p
>
> So when is the run??
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > Hell Scott...Ive seen stock TJ's that wont hide from you...last
> time
> > we were out I thought I was going to have to strap you up that
> little
> > hill....you know the one, I had just climbed it hehehe. We
would
> > have invited you but we did not think you liked going to the mall.
> >
> > Sharky
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
wrote:
> > > Aw come on, are the little Tjs afraid to come out and play??:p
LOL
> > > Who else needs convincing that short arms suck?? Theres gotta
be
> > some
> > > excuse you can find to take out Troys Tj :p
> > >
> > > Scott Maiden
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
> wrote:
> > > > LOL. Joe already wants one of Troys long arm kits. He's just
> shy
> > of
> > > the
> > > > steering. So I guess there won't be any showdown.
> > > >
> > > > On the bright side Joe will finally be getting a long arm
kit.
> > Can
> > > I still
> > > > call his TJ a weeble wobble?
> > > >
> > > > ;)
> > > >
> > > > Scott K
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Scott Maiden [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:54 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can I play too? I think you all know what I drive.... can I
> pick
> > > the
> > > > trail?? :p
> > > >
> > > > Scott Maiden
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Can I play too? I have an RE long arm kit and would like
to
> > put
> > > it
> > > > > to the test too once I get my rear shock bracket rewelded
> onto
> > my
> > > > > axle.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Anderson
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize"
<skruize@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm calling you out to have a friendly test. Kind of like
> > > > the "Pepsi
> > > > > > Challenge" :D
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Troy is willing to loan me his white TJ for the test. We
> can
> > do
> > > a
> > > > > road test
> > > > > > of it and then compare that test drive to your TJ's
> > performance.
> > > > > Troy has a
> > > > > > really nice obstacle course that we can run both Jeeps
> through
> > > > > after doing
> > > > > > the road test to evaluate offroad performance. Or we can
> take
> > > > both
> > > > > out to
> > > > > > one of the local trails. This can be a public or private
> test,
> > > > it's
> > > > > your
> > > > > > call on that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What do you think? It will be fun. I don't want to change
> your
> > > > > opinion, just
> > > > > > allow you to develop a more informed opinion based on
some
> > hands
> > > > on
> > > > > > experience with his setup. If you still think it's crap
then
> > > > fine,
> > > > > that's
> > > > > > your opinion. At least give yourself the opportunity to
> check
> > it
> > > > > out. I
> > > > > > think this is a fair request. Who knows, maybe you'll
even
> > want
> > > > to
> > > > > purchase
> > > > > > one of his kits ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It'll be one last fun Jeep thing for us to do before I
> leave
> > for
> > > > > Montana in
> > > > > > September. Lets set a date for 2-3 weeks from now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <Grin>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott K
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > > > > To: sharxjeep; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hey now!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is no correlation between welding on the frame and
> > alumi-
> > > > > stress
> > > > > > steering... unless of course you happen to overheat the
> > aluminum
> > > > > during the
> > > > > > welding process in which case it becomes EVEN more
brittle,
> > > which
> > > > > could of
> > > > > > course cause it to fracture even easier which could lead
to
> a
> > > > > failure at
> > > > > > high speed causing you to slam into a bus full of school
> > > children
> > > > > which
> > > > > > would then cause the demise of the entire bus load of
> children
> > > > > resulting in
> > > > > > the recall of all alumi-stress components ever installed
> and
> > the
> > > > > resulting
> > > > > > bankruptcy of Toys By Troy and vindication of all my
> comments
> > > > > regarding the
> > > > > > risks of using aluminum in single point failure designs..
> LOL
> > > > Just
> > > > > joking
> > > > > > Sharky (okay... I'm not) :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: sharxjeep [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You've seen him weld Randy...do ya blame me! LOL
> > > > > > With the 3 link front I need a hotter weld than his
welder
> can
> > > > give
> > > > > and I
> > > > > > sure dont want my front end falling out on me because Im
> sure
> > > > > > that Joe West would find a way to blame it on my Alumi-
> Flex
> > > LOL
> > > > > > Just joking Joe (ok...Im not) :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Davis"
<luvrocks@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > so your going to have john go over ricks welds,thats
smart
> > > > LOL!!!
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...>
> > > > > > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:00 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A big thank you going out to Rick Norman for the
> welding
> > he
> > > > did
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > me Sun. The rest will ber finished this week at Hunter
> > > > Offroad.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

87954 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 2:58pm
Subject: Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ

Heh, I dont really care, Im out pretty much every weekend anyway. So
whenever you are ready, bring it on :p (hopefully I wont have mine
torn down at the time, getting ready to say bye bye to the sheetmetal
soon)
Scott Maiden

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Everyone has to be good at something...and for that would be...? LOL
> We can run as soon as I finish my mods which should be soon. But we
> do have Mikes Jeep is you cant wait.
>
> Sharky
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > Keep talking Sharky...Its the only thing your good at :p
> >
> > So when is the run??
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > Hell Scott...Ive seen stock TJ's that wont hide from
you...last
> > time
> > > we were out I thought I was going to have to strap you up that
> > little
> > > hill....you know the one, I had just climbed it hehehe. We
> would
> > > have invited you but we did not think you liked going to the
mall.
> > >
> > > Sharky
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> wrote:
> > > > Aw come on, are the little Tjs afraid to come out and
play??:p
> LOL
> > > > Who else needs convincing that short arms suck?? Theres gotta
> be
> > > some
> > > > excuse you can find to take out Troys Tj :p
> > > >
> > > > Scott Maiden
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > LOL. Joe already wants one of Troys long arm kits. He's
just
> > shy
> > > of
> > > > the
> > > > > steering. So I guess there won't be any showdown.
> > > > >
> > > > > On the bright side Joe will finally be getting a long arm
> kit.
> > > Can
> > > > I still
> > > > > call his TJ a weeble wobble?
> > > > >
> > > > > ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott K
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Scott Maiden [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 6:54 PM
> > > > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Joe W TJ vs Toys by Troy TJ
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can I play too? I think you all know what I drive.... can I
> > pick
> > > > the
> > > > > trail?? :p
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott Maiden
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> > > > > > Can I play too? I have an RE long arm kit and would like
> to
> > > put
> > > > it
> > > > > > to the test too once I get my rear shock bracket rewelded
> > onto
> > > my
> > > > > > axle.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike Anderson
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize"
> <skruize@c...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi Joe,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm calling you out to have a friendly test. Kind of
like
> > > > > the "Pepsi
> > > > > > > Challenge" :D
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Troy is willing to loan me his white TJ for the test.
We
> > can
> > > do
> > > > a
> > > > > > road test
> > > > > > > of it and then compare that test drive to your TJ's
> > > performance.
> > > > > > Troy has a
> > > > > > > really nice obstacle course that we can run both Jeeps
> > through
> > > > > > after doing
> > > > > > > the road test to evaluate offroad performance. Or we
can
> > take
> > > > > both
> > > > > > out to
> > > > > > > one of the local trails. This can be a public or
private
> > test,
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > call on that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What do you think? It will be fun. I don't want to
change
> > your
> > > > > > opinion, just
> > > > > > > allow you to develop a more informed opinion based on
> some
> > > hands
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > experience with his setup. If you still think it's crap
> then
> > > > > fine,
> > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > your opinion. At least give yourself the opportunity to
> > check
> > > it
> > > > > > out. I
> > > > > > > think this is a fair request. Who knows, maybe you'll
> even
> > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > > purchase
> > > > > > > one of his kits ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It'll be one last fun Jeep thing for us to do before I
> > leave
> > > for
> > > > > > Montana in
> > > > > > > September. Lets set a date for 2-3 weeks from now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <Grin>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Scott K
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:47 AM
> > > > > > > To: sharxjeep; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey now!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is no correlation between welding on the frame
and
> > > alumi-
> > > > > > stress
> > > > > > > steering... unless of course you happen to overheat the
> > > aluminum
> > > > > > during the
> > > > > > > welding process in which case it becomes EVEN more
> brittle,
> > > > which
> > > > > > could of
> > > > > > > course cause it to fracture even easier which could
lead
> to
> > a
> > > > > > failure at
> > > > > > > high speed causing you to slam into a bus full of
school
> > > > children
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > would then cause the demise of the entire bus load of
> > children
> > > > > > resulting in
> > > > > > > the recall of all alumi-stress components ever
installed
> > and
> > > the
> > > > > > resulting
> > > > > > > bankruptcy of Toys By Troy and vindication of all my
> > comments
> > > > > > regarding the
> > > > > > > risks of using aluminum in single point failure
designs..
> > LOL
> > > > > Just
> > > > > > joking
> > > > > > > Sharky (okay... I'm not) :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: sharxjeep [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:33 AM
> > > > > > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You've seen him weld Randy...do ya blame me! LOL
> > > > > > > With the 3 link front I need a hotter weld than his
> welder
> > can
> > > > > give
> > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > sure dont want my front end falling out on me because
Im
> > sure
> > > > > > > that Joe West would find a way to blame it on my Alumi-
> > Flex
> > > > LOL
> > > > > > > Just joking Joe (ok...Im not) :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Davis"
> <luvrocks@c...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > so your going to have john go over ricks welds,thats
> smart
> > > > > LOL!!!
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...>
> > > > > > > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 7:00 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to Rick Norman
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > A big thank you going out to Rick Norman for the
> > welding
> > > he
> > > > > did
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > me Sun. The rest will ber finished this week at
Hunter
> > > > > Offroad.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

87955 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:05pm
Subject: Run Saturday......broken arrow.

The wife has talked me into going up to cooler country to camp out for the
weekend .Axle Alley will have to wait until next week :) .It will be nice to
get out of the heat. Since the Payson Area is closed due to the fire
restrictions, we are going up to the Sedona area to meet her brother. I told
him I would take him through broken arrow on Saturday. If anyone is
interested in running the trail with us on saturday shoot me an email
BadAzXJ@m... We can hit the sedona brew company afterward for a cold
one. :)

Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw

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87956 From: Casper <casper@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 1:31pm
Subject: Looking for Jon Loveless?

Hey, what happened to Jon Loveless? I have not been to up on the web talk lately, but I do not see him posting anymore. Did he move? Did he quit us?

Casper

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87957 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:57pm
Subject: Attn. Mike Chatfield

Hey Mike, looks like the azvjc.org site is down again. It's my understanding
that when this happens, it is a database server that has gone down and you
end up having to send an email to someone to restart the server. Assuming
this is all true, would it be possible to write a utility that would "ping" the
database server and send the email automatically whenever the server cannot
be "ping-ed"? This would hopefully minimize the downtime for the site.

-Roger

87958 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:09pm
Subject: RE: Attn. Mike Chatfield

Ta Da. Roger made it work. You da man!

Joey K
93YJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 3:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Attn. Mike Chatfield

Hey Mike, looks like the azvjc.org site is down again. It's my
understanding
that when this happens, it is a database server that has gone down and
you
end up having to send an email to someone to restart the server.
Assuming
this is all true, would it be possible to write a utility that would
"ping" the
database server and send the email automatically whenever the server
cannot
be "ping-ed"? This would hopefully minimize the downtime for the site.

-Roger

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87959 From: Ron Richmond <rgrichm1673@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:14pm
Subject: Re: Newbie question

Hey Steve, I've seen that TJ of yours and I would advise against taking your doors off at all. There has to be at least a 4-6 foot drop if you were to fall out. Just make sure you keep mama buckled in.

sdrichm <sdrichm@c...> wrote:I have a 2003 TJ and took the doors off for the first time today.
The manual says that the dome light will go out automatically after
20 minutes. Is there an override "something" that can be done so
the dome light doesn't come on while the doors are off?

Steve

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87960 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:17pm
Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Saturday, July 26, 2003

Hello All,Frank BadAzXJ is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Saturday, July 26, 2003. When: saturday...time to be determined.
Where: Sedona... at the trail head for broken arrow.
Rating: 2.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 14

The wife has talked me into going up to cooler country to camp out for the weekend .It will be nice to get out of the heat. We are going up to the Sedona area to meet her brother and I told him I would take him through broken arrow on Saturday. If anyone is interested in running the trail with us on saturday shoot me an email 
BadAzXJ@m... We can hit the sedona brew company afterward for a cold 
one. :) 

Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop. 
 
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool! 
 
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up. 
 
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?) 
 
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!

http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=958
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website

87961 From: Brian Luse <graymatterwj@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:27pm
Subject: TJ bumpstop help

OK,
Long arm is ordered but in the mean time I have a BB and 1" BL on my
TJ. I have 33/12.5s on there now and I am taking a trip to
Colorado. I need to add in bumpstop extentions or hockey pucks to
prevent rubbing. Any ideas? This is only a short term deal so I
don't want to make any permaent mods bc long arms should be here in a
few weeks. TIA
Brian

87962 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Problems with ZJ, FW: the jeep!

James,
I've got a 96 ZJ and it sounds like what I had a problem with a couple
of months ago. I'd check the Idle Air Control Valve. It is located
on the rear of the throttle body, with a couple of wires coming out of
it and held on by a couple of screws. When I took mine off it was
full of gunk. Bought a new one at Auto Zone for $38.00. I also
changed spark plugs and installed a new cap and rotor. I'm sure it
was the IAC Valve though. Make sure you take the old one off and take
it with you, because the I-6 engine and the V-8 ones are very similar.
HTH - email me if you have any questions.
Bob
74 CJ-5 & 96 ZJ
CANT W8

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> Any of you ZJ guys have a clue what is wrong with my son's ZJ?
(below is
> what I am being told, it is a '94 4WD 5.2L)
> He will be coming home this weekend from Flag and probably expecting
me to
> fix his junk. Please give me a clue what to look for. We replaced
the fuel
> pump and filter before he left in May. I hope it isn't the tranny
pump going
> out.
>
> TIA
>
> --James
>
> PS - I don't know why he is pumping the gas, he must think it is old
carb'd
> Isuzu, lol.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Towle [mailto:brandon_towle@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM
> To: James.Towle@a...
> Subject: the jeep!
>
>
> My Jeep wouldn't start yesterday. So Weird. I came home from work
for lunch
> and chilled. Then I went back out to go to work. It started up after
a few
> pumps of the gas.
> It idles fine and runs fine, but when you shift into reverse, the
rpms drop
> and it dies. I have no idea what to do. Then last night me and Josh
went
> outside. I got a ride to work, so it had been sitting awhile and it
starts
> right up goes into reverse.
> That same thing today. I go to work starts up no problem. Runs
perfect on
> the way there. After lessons, it is a little shaky starting up. I
had to
> pump the gas a little. Into reverse and the rpms drop like mad, I
give it
> some gas to keep it on. Runs fine home.
> Then I try it when I get back home. Shut it off. Wait a couple fo
minutes.
> It doesn't want to start. Pump the gas and it starts. Go into
reverse and it
> dies.
> ------------------------------------
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

87963 From: Tony Axtell <tony@i...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:39pm
Subject: Re: Camp Verde area

Checkout Fossil Creek and childs power plant.

also some 4x4 access around beaver creek.

Unless closed :\

Tony 78CJ5

katvans1 wrote:
> Going to a campground in Camp Verde area this Fri for weekend and
> towing the TJ for the first time. I guess we are what you
> call "light riders" ie: lifted, 33s, winch and disconnects. No rock
> crawling, mostly sightseeing.
>
> Can anyone inform us of interesting trails in that area in the range
> of 2 to 3
> max that we can run? We will be traveling by ourselves unless we
> find someone to run with.
>
> Thank you all for any help.
>
> Rich in Cave Creek
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> .
>

87964 From: Joe West <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:41pm
Subject: Posted pictures of the NV4500/AtlasII and custom skid.

Hi Gang,

Troy from Toys by Troy needed some shots of my transfer
case/transmission skid arrangement so he could see if there is anything
custom he can make for me. Since Troy needed some pictures, I just went
ahead and made a quick webpage with the pictures.

If you want to look at the pictures, go to:

http://www.flatfendertj.com <http://www.flatfendertj.com/>

Click on Modifications and then on Transmission or Transfer Case Skid.
either link will take you to the pictures.

Kind Regards,

Joe West

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87965 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:50pm
Subject: Re: Keeping up with the TJs

We know you too well Sharky, if nothing was said you would feel
rejected. :o)~

Chris
--------------------------------------------------------------------

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> I dont remember asking you or Chris a damn thing! ROTFLMAO
>
>
> Anthony, give me a call
> Sharky
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > 2 --- points chris
> > sharky --- 0
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

87966 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 4:53pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003

We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join Hackles "bring
your coffee" run. ;)

Joey K
93YJ

-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
16, 2003

Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail
run on Saturday, August 16, 2003. When: Saturday the 16th of
August
Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All DAY
CB Channel:

Annual Crown King Run 
 
This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King. 
 
Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
Creek even the Crown King road was trip. 
 
More details to follow as details get ironed out. 
 
Joey K 
93YJ

The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given
weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail
into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by
AzVJC.</a>

The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through
the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections
that can make it interesting.

The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle,
both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains.
All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort
Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.

In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to
Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.

Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and
into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink,
and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King
Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years
ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into
the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the
rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place
repose for women of ill fame.

There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those
wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and
go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker,
or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.

Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you
have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to
the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can
join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.

Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.

Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!

http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website

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87967 From: Larry Goin <bm1063@y...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:00pm
Subject: CJ2A Motor Mounts

After a very loooong night the last time I was out (7-5 FR-42) and
two broken motor mounts later, I just got a new kit from advanced
adaptors. I need a suggetion on who can get the old mounts off
(welded) and the new ones put on in the right place. The old mounts
are off by at least an inch.

Thanks

Larry Goin
46 CJ2A

87968 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:21pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003

From the look of the head count on my run already it looks as if everyone
plans to hit the bar early:)
Joey is right we need some more people to step up and lead runs at
different times. This has been a great trip the last couple years I am
looking forward to it. Jim F. aka Hackle

"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/

-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:54 PM
To: joey@D...; 'AzVJC'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday,
August 16, 2003

We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join Hackles "bring
your coffee" run. ;)

Joey K
93YJ

-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
16, 2003

Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail
run on Saturday, August 16, 2003. When: Saturday the 16th of
August
Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
Rating: 3.0-
Length: All DAY
CB Channel:

Annual Crown King Run 
 
This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King. 
 
Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
Creek even the Crown King road was trip. 
 
More details to follow as details get ironed out. 
 
Joey K 
93YJ

The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given
weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail
into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by
AzVJC.</a>

The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through
the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections
that can make it interesting.

The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle,
both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains.
All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort
Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.

In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to
Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.

Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and
into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink,
and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King
Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years
ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into
the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the
rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place
repose for women of ill fame.

There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those
wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and
go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker,
or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.

Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you
have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to
the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can
join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.

Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.

Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!

http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website

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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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87969 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:31pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003

I could lead the 8:00 run.

Hackle wrote:

> From the look of the head count on my run already it looks as if everyone
>plans to hit the bar early:)
> Joey is right we need some more people to step up and lead runs at
>different times. This has been a great trip the last couple years I am
>looking forward to it. Jim F. aka Hackle
>
>"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
>Marx
>Member of the original dirty half dozen.
>http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:54 PM
>To: joey@D...; 'AzVJC'
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday,
>August 16, 2003
>
>
>We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join Hackles "bring
>your coffee" run. ;)
>
>Joey K
>93YJ
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
>To: AzVJC
>Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August
>16, 2003
>
>Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail
>run on Saturday, August 16, 2003. When: Saturday the 16th of
>August
>Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
>Rating: 3.0-
>Length: All DAY
>CB Channel:
>
>Annual Crown King Run 
> 
>This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King. 
> 
>Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
>year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
>Creek even the Crown King road was trip. 
> 
>More details to follow as details get ironed out. 
> 
>Joey K 
>93YJ
>
>The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given
>weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
>motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail
>into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
>href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by
>AzVJC.</a>
>
>The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through
>the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
>Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections
>that can make it interesting.
>
>The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle,
>both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains.
>All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort
>Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
>usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
>
>In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to
>Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
>start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
>
>Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and
>into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink,
>and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King
>Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years
>ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into
>the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the
>rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place
>repose for women of ill fame.
>
>There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those
>wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
>which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and
>go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker,
>or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
>
>Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
>Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you
>have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to
>the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can
>join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
>
>Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
>
>Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>
>http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
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>Thank You,
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87970 From: bk83gold <bk83@j...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:36pm
Subject: transfer case ?

My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is it
looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive shaft
and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual trans.
Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal? this is
the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also need
some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular guy
replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would cost
a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
shoot me your advide it would be great.

Happy Wheeling,
Brandon

87971 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 6:58pm
Subject: Re: transfer case ?

The NV to-case you have holds AFT (which is red/pink), so that's likely the
culprit...probably your output shaft seal.

Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: "bk83gold" <bk83@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 6:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] transfer case ?

> My jeep is leaking form the rear drive shaft. The strang thing is it
> looks like the fluid is comming through the center of the drive shaft
> and on top of that the fluid is pink (is that possible?). The jeep
> is a 1990 wrangler 6 shooter with an AX-15 5 speed manual trans.
> Could the leak be coming form my rear transfer case seal? this is
> the only think I can think of because it is pink fluids. I also need
> some advide on if it is the the transfer case seal can a regular guy
> replace it or should it go the the shop. I just figued it would cost
> a grand or so in a shop. I really am in a bind guys so if you can
> shoot me your advide it would be great.
>
> Happy Wheeling,
> Brandon
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>

87972 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:15pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003

Hello All,Kent Warner is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003. When: 8:00 AM
Where: Meet on the main road just after the last Lake Toll Booth, and before the bridge.
Rating: 3.0-
Length:
CB Channel: 4

The 3rd wave up the hill. Let's try to roll real close to 8.

The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>

The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.

The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.

In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.

Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.

There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.

Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.

Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.

Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!

http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=959
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website

87973 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:23pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003

Hey Hackle, I can lead a run...but I want an early one :)

Sharky

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> From the look of the head count on my run already it looks as
if everyone
> plans to hit the bar early:)
> Joey is right we need some more people to step up and lead
runs at
> different times. This has been a great trip the last couple years I
am
> looking forward to it. Jim F. aka Hackle
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 4:54 PM
> To: joey@D...; 'AzVJC'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday,
> August 16, 2003
>
>
> We need more trip leaders. Unless everyone wants to join
Hackles "bring
> your coffee" run. ;)
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 2:25 AM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday,
August
> 16, 2003
>
> Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant
trail
> run on Saturday, August 16, 2003. When: Saturday the 16th of
> August
> Where: Meeting at various orgins to converge on Crown King
> Rating: 3.0-
> Length: All DAY
> CB Channel:
>
> Annual Crown King Run 
> 
> This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown King. 
> 
> Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run you can make. Last
> year we had several runs starting at Lake Pleasent a run from Turkey
> Creek even the Crown King road was trip. 
> 
> More details to follow as details get ironed out. 
> 
> Joey K 
> 93YJ
>
> The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any
given
> weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and
> motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic
trail
> into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
> href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done
by
> AzVJC.</a>
>
> The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels
through
> the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of
> Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional
sections
> that can make it interesting.
>
> The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro
Belle,
> both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw
Mountains.
> All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls.
Fort
> Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek
> usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
>
> In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle
to
> Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early
> start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
>
> Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines
and
> into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a
drink,
> and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown
King
> Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many
years
> ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built
into
> the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from
the
> rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a
place
> repose for women of ill fame.
>
> There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for
those
> wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road
> which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split
off and
> go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway
quicker,
> or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
>
> Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or
> Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If
you
> have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up
to
> the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you
can
> join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
>
> Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
>
> Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
> Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
> Thank You,
>
> - The AzVJC Website
>
>
>
>
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