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83166 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:03pm
Subject: RE: more 4 cyl questions
The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing out the
input shaft.
So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and transfercase.
The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need to cut
them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350 V8,
700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will be
similar to swapping in the 6.
And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies appear
similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even the
drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15 is
substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to handle V8
power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This was due
to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in it. I
know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to the
typo in the owners manual.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what i
expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it would
probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
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83167 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:06pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
Soak the yoke in very hot water and then try it on. (I remember this trick
being in the directions when I did one of the hack and tap SYE's 4 years
ago.)
Good luck!
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83168 From: John Teel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:32pm
Subject: Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
My 2001 4.0L has the NV3550 tranny. How does that compare to the
AX15? Is it better or worse? I'm not sure why mine has a different
tranny than most others but that's what the dealer says I have.
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
>
> The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
> transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing
out the
> input shaft.
>
> So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and
transfercase.
>
> The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need
to cut
> them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
>
> Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
>
> If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350
V8,
> 700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will
be
> similar to swapping in the 6.
>
> And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies
appear
> similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even
the
> drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15
is
> substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to
handle V8
> power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This
was due
> to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in
it. I
> know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to
the
> typo in the owners manual.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
>
>
> thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what
i
> expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
> i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
> maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
> to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it
would
> probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
> newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
> the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
> electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
>
>
>
>
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83169 From: Bruce Stropp <jeep4offrd@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:01pm
Subject: Tail Light Conversion
I saw in an off road magazine a couple of weeks back, a flush mount,
round tail light conversion. It had the how to directions, along with
napa part #s. Does anybody remember seeing this. If so, which mag is
it in. I cant seem to find it now.
Thanks, Bruce
83170 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:19pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
It's in JP magazine... the same one as Sharky's rig. Remember the
tail lights are not LED tail lights. They are just standard stop
lights for trailers. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Stropp" <jeep4offrd@h...>
wrote:
> I saw in an off road magazine a couple of weeks back, a flush
mount,
> round tail light conversion. It had the how to directions, along
with
> napa part #s. Does anybody remember seeing this. If so, which mag
is
> it in. I cant seem to find it now.
> Thanks, Bruce
83171 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 0:33pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
I know which article your talking about, but if you want to get it done right away, you might want to check out Stu Olsons web site. he has a detailed write up on this conversion. Heres a link for you. stu-offroad
Anthony C.
83172 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:35pm
Subject: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Saturday, April 26, 2003
Hello All,
steve sample is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on Saturday, April 26, 2003.
When: 8:30 sat am
Where: TBD
Rating: 2.0+
Length: all day
CB Channel: yep
hey
i am planning to run something but not sure which yet. it will be a 4.0-4.5+ for sure. 35's,locked and the mindset for body damage recommended :)
on the list would be:
highway to hell
axle alley
bad medicine
miners revenge/graveyard
if you are interested- sign up and drop me an email if you have a preference. i will keep this trip updated as the week progresses.
let's ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset point.
There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower), andWoodpecker (Upper).
In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails, most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
83173 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:43pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
You might want to check with Rick Norman also..he ahs
done a sweet conversion on his xj
--- chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> I know which article your talking about, but if you
> want to get it done right
> away, you might want to check out Stu Olsons web
> site. he has a detailed
> write up on this conversion. Heres a link for you.
> <A
> HREF="http://www.stu-offroad.com/">stu-offroad</A>
>
> Anthony C.
>
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83174 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
I did mine in about a half hour on my YJ, but I used the LED lights. BTW, if you need something cut, bring it on by, I have a plasma cutter I'm just dying to use again.
HE,HE,HE
Anthony C.
83175 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:25pm
Subject: Re: Dana 44 installed
It came out of a Scout II, you can often find scouts with dual dana
44's that are just slightly wider then standard cj. The scout that I
got (from TJ) had a dana 60 in the rear, but that wasn't stock.
While the 44 will work great for me, you have to take in to account
that in order to mount it on the narrower frame of the cj I had to do
a bit of fabricating and make some outboard spring hangers, as the
pumpkin is offset a bit more than the stock dana 30.
-Mark
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bergau" <sonorancj@q...> wrote:
> What did the axle come out of? I'm still trying to figure out my
> options.
>
> Thanks Bob
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Mark <fordlover49@y...> wrote:
> > Since a few people expressed interest in these
> > pictures I decided to post them for all to see. I
> > finished getting the dana 44 under the cj today.
> > Still have to get some new shocks, weld some shock
> > mounts differently then I originally expected, longer
> > brake lines, set up the steering, modify the skid
> > plate for the new axle (offset a bit more), and put
> > the new front driveshaft in. Oh and install the dana
> > 60 under the rear and everything it entails (that's
> > next weekend). Needless to say I have plenty of
> > clearance over my 33's now :P. Notice the new width,
> > should put me at about TJ width.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> >
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83176 From: Mike Kelly <mjbkelly@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:48pm
Subject: Wrenching Party??
It looks like volunteers are scace for this wrenching party, so could
someone with lift experience give me an idea on what sequence to
install my equipment. RE 7003 3.5 super flex lift, 1"MM lift, 1" body
lift, SYE & Tom Woods CV Drive shaft, Kilby Gas Tank Skid Plate, and
rear tracking bar.
Mike Kelly
83177 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:03pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
Make ABSOLUTELY sure that the reason you can't put the yoke on is because
you have damaged the splines by trying to force it on. Recently, I helped a
member who had the exact same problem and when I looked at the splines on
the yoke... there was very small gouges that you could see on the ends of
the splines inside the yoke. The splines were *just* compressed enough
because of the force the member used (and it doesn't take much) to cause
them not to line up properly (the ends of the splines were flared out
slightly and you REALLY had to look close to see it). I ended up fixing the
problem by taking a small dremel grinding wheel and smoothing out the
splines on the yoke. I also used the dremel to put a bevel (45 degrees or
so) on the transfer case output shaft to make it easier to engage without
damaging the yoke.
The key word here is NO FORCE... if it doesn't go on smoothly, most likely
you have damaged the splines on the yoke assembly OR you forgot to bevel the
edge of the transfer case output shaft. Take a few minutes under a bright
light and examine things closely... I'll bet you some Krispy Kreme doughnuts
that you've banged up the splines <grin>.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83178 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:04pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
If you want to come on over... I'll give you a hand; it won't take but 20
minutes or so.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
(480) 325-9419
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83179 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Apr 20, 2003 6:16pm
Subject: Re: Another SYE question
They did have the same sort of problem with the first plutonium
bomb, the one exploded at Trinity. The plutonium "plug" (which
contained the neutron initiator core) would not fit into the
hole in the plutonium sphere. Why? The two parts were machined
to thousandths of an inch tolerance, and the plug and the core
were not the same temperature. They let both sit for a couple
of hours to equalize the temperature, and then the plug slid in with
no problems. But as Joe says, in yoke installation (and, I
may add, plutonium core insertion), the key word is
NO FORCE. =P
BTW, I did a run to the Trinity Site (White Sands Missile Range
opens it up twice a year to visitors.) After I visited Trinity,
I did some shunpiking and offroading (found a nice box canyon),
and also got some great pics of the VLA. All the pics are 1600x1200,
though, and I haven't had a chance to reduce them. When I do,
I will post a trip report and the pics to the list.
Tony
Joe W wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Make ABSOLUTELY sure that the reason you can't put the yoke on is because
> you have damaged the splines by trying to force it on. Recently, I helped a
> member who had the exact same problem and when I looked at the splines on
> the yoke... there was very small gouges that you could see on the ends of
> the splines inside the yoke. The splines were *just* compressed enough
> because of the force the member used (and it doesn't take much) to cause
> them not to line up properly (the ends of the splines were flared out
> slightly and you REALLY had to look close to see it). I ended up fixing the
> problem by taking a small dremel grinding wheel and smoothing out the
> splines on the yoke. I also used the dremel to put a bevel (45 degrees or
> so) on the transfer case output shaft to make it easier to engage without
> damaging the yoke.
>
> The key word here is NO FORCE... if it doesn't go on smoothly, most likely
> you have damaged the splines on the yoke assembly OR you forgot to bevel the
> edge of the transfer case output shaft. Take a few minutes under a bright
> light and examine things closely... I'll bet you some Krispy Kreme doughnuts
> that you've banged up the splines <grin>.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
>
> I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
> everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
> and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
> but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
> are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
> shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
> to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
> beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
> this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
> get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
> would appreciate it! -Rob
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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83180 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:22pm
Subject: NEED HELP
Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete 4 of the 7-8
projects she had in the works...........
1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The area directly
around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept. is signing
and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt Hwy. The west
boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4 ranchers in the
area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV and motorcycle
stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am proposing "4x4
play areas".
2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in Scottsdale. Many of
you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago. This meeting
lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would retain "some"
trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are helping with
this project.
4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful canyon just west
of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the Kingman BLM
are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling for workers
for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put signs along
the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday we need two
crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land Dept. ends May
2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
weekend.
I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important project/issue.
PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV groups need
to help at 201.
Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00 a.m................. for
those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday please contact me
and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those of you that
can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
p.m...........
I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON "THE OTHER
GUY"............... THANKS......
Sandee
83181 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:39pm
Subject: FW: NEED HELP
Please read Sandee's e-mail below.....and lend a hand if you can!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:23 PM
To: mccullen@c...
Subject: [az_vjc] NEED HELP
Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete 4 of the
7-8
projects she had in the works...........
1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The area
directly
around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept. is
signing
and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt Hwy. The
west
boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4 ranchers in
the
area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV and
motorcycle
stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am proposing
"4x4
play areas".
2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in Scottsdale.
Many of
you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago. This
meeting
lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would retain
"some"
trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are helping
with
this project.
4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful canyon
just west
of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the Kingman
BLM
are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling for
workers
for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put signs
along
the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday we need
two
crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land Dept. ends
May
2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
weekend.
I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important
project/issue.
PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV groups
need
to help at 201.
Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00 a.m.................
for
those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday please
contact me
and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those of you
that
can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
p.m...........
I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON "THE
OTHER
GUY"............... THANKS......
Sandee
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83182 From: sdrichm <sdrichm@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:44pm
Subject: Tops
Would a 2002 TJ soft top or 2002 Bikini top fit on a 2003 TJ???
Steve
83183 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:02pm
Subject: Re: NEED HELP
Alas, unfortunately I have a torn tendon or ligament in my
right arm which the VA Hospital refuses to do anything
about, so I will not be able to help. =/
I would be able to pick up trash, though, that's why
I thought the White Tank Mountains South Sand Hills
cleanup would be a good thing. =)
Tony
Sandee McCullen wrote:
> Just need "arm power" to help pound trail signs in this week. We'll be
> working with a post hole digger and a portable concrete mixer on the
> weekend. Three 15 ft. poles with 4x8 plywood panels between. These will be
> the three temporary kiosks. One on the west side off Ironwood Rd.; one at
> the junction of Hwy 60 and Hwy 79 at Florence Junction and one on the south
> edge alone Hunt Hwy........... The signs within are like the Forest Service
> uses........... there's a special "post setter" pounder to use.
>
> Hope you can make it out to help................. Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: intertwingled [mailto:intertwingled@q...]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:30 PM
> > To: Sandee McCullen
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] NEED HELP
> >
> >
> >
> > Errm, what can I do to help? I'm one guy and a jeep.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >
> > > Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete
> > 4 of the 7-8
> > > projects she had in the works...........
> > >
> > > 1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The
> > area directly
> > > around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept.
> > is signing
> > > and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
> > > marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt
> > Hwy. The west
> > > boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4
> > ranchers in the
> > > area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
> > > access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV
> > and motorcycle
> > > stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am
> > proposing "4x4
> > > play areas".
> > >
> > > 2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in
> > Scottsdale. Many of
> > > you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago.
> > This meeting
> > > lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would
> > retain "some"
> > > trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
> > >
> > > 3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
> > > predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are
> > helping with
> > > this project.
> > >
> > > 4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful
> > canyon just west
> > > of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the
> > Kingman BLM
> > > are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
> > >
> > > The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling
> > for workers
> > > for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put
> > signs along
> > > the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday
> > we need two
> > > crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
> > > crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
> > > finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
> > >
> > > These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
> > > ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land
> > Dept. ends May
> > > 2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
> > > weekend.
> > >
> > > I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important
> > project/issue.
> > > PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
> > > handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV
> > groups need
> > > to help at 201.
> > >
> > > Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00
> > a.m................. for
> > > those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday
> > please contact me
> > > and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
> > >
> > > For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
> > > meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those
> > of you that
> > > can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
> > > p.m...........
> > >
> > > I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON
> > "THE OTHER
> > > GUY"............... THANKS......
> > >
> > > Sandee
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> --
> Even the safest course is fraught with peril.
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Even the safest course is fraught with peril.
83184 From: Donald Whitehead <donjodie@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: Chicago Winch pictures
Hello All
Just in case you want to see want a $289 which looks like.
It came with the winch mount and 100' of 3/8 cable.
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83185 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:24pm
Subject: Hi-Lift Handle Hugger
Some of you may remember a posting from a Jeeper about being a beta tester for what he now calls the Hi-Lift Handle Hugger. About 20 of you got one of these little gadgets in the mail for some beta testing.
It appears that the testing period is over and they can be had by one and all.
Details on it at: http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/handle-hugger.htm
All in all, it is a pretty cool little widget!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
83186 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:55pm
Subject: Re: Hi-Lift Handle Hugger
Yeah, they are COOL!!!! NO MORE JIGGLES!!!! Get one!
Ray
AZAV8ER
Stu Olson wrote:
Some of you may remember a posting from a Jeeper about being a beta tester for what he now calls the Hi-Lift Handle Hugger. About 20 of you got one of these little gadgets in the mail for some beta testing.
It appears that the testing period is over and they can be had by one and all.
Details on it at: http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/handle-hugger.htm
All in all, it is a pretty cool little widget!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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83187 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: cv driveshaft
Who has the best deals in town on cv driveshafts? At this point I
don't necessarily need the beefiest in the world, I just need
something that will get me by for a couple months until I can afford
a better one.
-Mark
83188 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: RE: Tops
Yes
-----Original Message-----
From: sdrichm [mailto:sdrichm@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:45 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tops
Would a 2002 TJ soft top or 2002 Bikini top fit on a 2003 TJ???
Steve
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83189 From: Off Road <off-road@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:19pm
Subject: Can anyone identify type of snake
Hi Gang:
I took this picture last Thursday on Cottonwood Canyon, work lead me to Florence and I figured a little dirt on the way home would not hurt. Saw this critter right in the middle of the trail, had to slam the breaks to avoid running it over. I waited until it crossed to my right side and took this picture. I don't know much about snakes so I'm curious as to what kind this is (could not make out the distinctive rattler so my guess is that its not one).
Thanks
Jose
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83190 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:20pm
Subject: RE: Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
John,
It's similar in strength and the gear ratios are very close. They switched
to it in model year 2000. It's the same manual tranny you find in the light
duty Dodge trucks (except that the bellhousing is different). As far as I
have seen they are about equal.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: John Teel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
My 2001 4.0L has the NV3550 tranny. How does that compare to the AX15? Is
it better or worse? I'm not sure why mine has a different tranny than most
others but that's what the dealer says I have.
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
>
> The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
> transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing
out the
> input shaft.
>
> So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and
transfercase.
>
> The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need
to cut
> them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
>
> Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
>
> If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350
V8,
> 700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will
be
> similar to swapping in the 6.
>
> And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies
appear
> similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even
the
> drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15
is
> substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to
handle V8
> power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This
was due
> to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in
it. I
> know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to
the
> typo in the owners manual.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
>
>
> thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what
i
> expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
> i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
> maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
> to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it
would
> probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
> newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
> the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
> electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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83166 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:03pm
Subject: RE: more 4 cyl questions
The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing out the
input shaft.
So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and transfercase.
The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need to cut
them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350 V8,
700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will be
similar to swapping in the 6.
And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies appear
similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even the
drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15 is
substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to handle V8
power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This was due
to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in it. I
know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to the
typo in the owners manual.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what i
expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it would
probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
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83167 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:06pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
Soak the yoke in very hot water and then try it on. (I remember this trick
being in the directions when I did one of the hack and tap SYE's 4 years
ago.)
Good luck!
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83168 From: John Teel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 2:32pm
Subject: Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
My 2001 4.0L has the NV3550 tranny. How does that compare to the
AX15? Is it better or worse? I'm not sure why mine has a different
tranny than most others but that's what the dealer says I have.
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
>
> The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
> transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing
out the
> input shaft.
>
> So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and
transfercase.
>
> The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need
to cut
> them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
>
> Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
>
> If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350
V8,
> 700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will
be
> similar to swapping in the 6.
>
> And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies
appear
> similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even
the
> drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15
is
> substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to
handle V8
> power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This
was due
> to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in
it. I
> know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to
the
> typo in the owners manual.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
>
>
> thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what
i
> expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
> i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
> maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
> to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it
would
> probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
> newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
> the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
> electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
83169 From: Bruce Stropp <jeep4offrd@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:01pm
Subject: Tail Light Conversion
I saw in an off road magazine a couple of weeks back, a flush mount,
round tail light conversion. It had the how to directions, along with
napa part #s. Does anybody remember seeing this. If so, which mag is
it in. I cant seem to find it now.
Thanks, Bruce
83170 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:19pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
It's in JP magazine... the same one as Sharky's rig. Remember the
tail lights are not LED tail lights. They are just standard stop
lights for trailers. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bruce Stropp" <jeep4offrd@h...>
wrote:
> I saw in an off road magazine a couple of weeks back, a flush
mount,
> round tail light conversion. It had the how to directions, along
with
> napa part #s. Does anybody remember seeing this. If so, which mag
is
> it in. I cant seem to find it now.
> Thanks, Bruce
83171 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 0:33pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
I know which article your talking about, but if you want to get it done right away, you might want to check out Stu Olsons web site. he has a detailed write up on this conversion. Heres a link for you. stu-offroad
Anthony C.
83172 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:35pm
Subject: [TR] Florence Junction Area - Saturday, April 26, 2003
Hello All,
steve sample is leading a Florence Junction Area trail run on Saturday, April 26, 2003.
When: 8:30 sat am
Where: TBD
Rating: 2.0+
Length: all day
CB Channel: yep
hey
i am planning to run something but not sure which yet. it will be a 4.0-4.5+ for sure. 35's,locked and the mindset for body damage recommended :)
on the list would be:
highway to hell
axle alley
bad medicine
miners revenge/graveyard
if you are interested- sign up and drop me an email if you have a preference. i will keep this trip updated as the week progresses.
let's ROCKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Also known as the Arizona State Association of Four Wheel Drive Clubs (ASA4WDC) Jamboree site, the Florence Junction area offers a multitude of trails in varying degrees of difficulty. The variety of available trails is one reason the ASA4WDC has its annual Jamboree there.
There are trails for beginners in relatively stock vehicles like Foothills ,Martinez Cabin,Myers (Ajax) Loop,Pictograph Wash, andSunset point.
There are also a variety of Moderate trails like Ajax (Lower),Box Canyon,Coke Ovens,Flat Tire Canyon,Jack Handle, andOrville's Loop.
Then, of course, there are the Extreme trails likeAjax (Upper),Axle Alley,Highway To Hell,Jaw Breaker,Martinez Canyon,Woodpecker (Lower), andWoodpecker (Upper).
In addition to the trails named above, there a alot of unnamed trails, most of which are old mining roads. Please stay on existing trails and remember to TREAD LIGHTLY!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
83173 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 4:43pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
You might want to check with Rick Norman also..he ahs
done a sweet conversion on his xj
--- chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> I know which article your talking about, but if you
> want to get it done right
> away, you might want to check out Stu Olsons web
> site. he has a detailed
> write up on this conversion. Heres a link for you.
> <A
> HREF="http://www.stu-offroad.com/">stu-offroad</A>
>
> Anthony C.
>
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83174 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Tail Light Conversion
I did mine in about a half hour on my YJ, but I used the LED lights. BTW, if you need something cut, bring it on by, I have a plasma cutter I'm just dying to use again.
HE,HE,HE
Anthony C.
83175 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:25pm
Subject: Re: Dana 44 installed
It came out of a Scout II, you can often find scouts with dual dana
44's that are just slightly wider then standard cj. The scout that I
got (from TJ) had a dana 60 in the rear, but that wasn't stock.
While the 44 will work great for me, you have to take in to account
that in order to mount it on the narrower frame of the cj I had to do
a bit of fabricating and make some outboard spring hangers, as the
pumpkin is offset a bit more than the stock dana 30.
-Mark
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Bergau" <sonorancj@q...> wrote:
> What did the axle come out of? I'm still trying to figure out my
> options.
>
> Thanks Bob
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Mark <fordlover49@y...> wrote:
> > Since a few people expressed interest in these
> > pictures I decided to post them for all to see. I
> > finished getting the dana 44 under the cj today.
> > Still have to get some new shocks, weld some shock
> > mounts differently then I originally expected, longer
> > brake lines, set up the steering, modify the skid
> > plate for the new axle (offset a bit more), and put
> > the new front driveshaft in. Oh and install the dana
> > 60 under the rear and everything it entails (that's
> > next weekend). Needless to say I have plenty of
> > clearance over my 33's now :P. Notice the new width,
> > should put me at about TJ width.
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> >
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83176 From: Mike Kelly <mjbkelly@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:48pm
Subject: Wrenching Party??
It looks like volunteers are scace for this wrenching party, so could
someone with lift experience give me an idea on what sequence to
install my equipment. RE 7003 3.5 super flex lift, 1"MM lift, 1" body
lift, SYE & Tom Woods CV Drive shaft, Kilby Gas Tank Skid Plate, and
rear tracking bar.
Mike Kelly
83177 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:03pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
Make ABSOLUTELY sure that the reason you can't put the yoke on is because
you have damaged the splines by trying to force it on. Recently, I helped a
member who had the exact same problem and when I looked at the splines on
the yoke... there was very small gouges that you could see on the ends of
the splines inside the yoke. The splines were *just* compressed enough
because of the force the member used (and it doesn't take much) to cause
them not to line up properly (the ends of the splines were flared out
slightly and you REALLY had to look close to see it). I ended up fixing the
problem by taking a small dremel grinding wheel and smoothing out the
splines on the yoke. I also used the dremel to put a bevel (45 degrees or
so) on the transfer case output shaft to make it easier to engage without
damaging the yoke.
The key word here is NO FORCE... if it doesn't go on smoothly, most likely
you have damaged the splines on the yoke assembly OR you forgot to bevel the
edge of the transfer case output shaft. Take a few minutes under a bright
light and examine things closely... I'll bet you some Krispy Kreme doughnuts
that you've banged up the splines <grin>.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83178 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:04pm
Subject: RE: Another SYE question
Rob,
If you want to come on over... I'll give you a hand; it won't take but 20
minutes or so.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
(480) 325-9419
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
would appreciate it! -Rob
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83179 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Apr 20, 2003 6:16pm
Subject: Re: Another SYE question
They did have the same sort of problem with the first plutonium
bomb, the one exploded at Trinity. The plutonium "plug" (which
contained the neutron initiator core) would not fit into the
hole in the plutonium sphere. Why? The two parts were machined
to thousandths of an inch tolerance, and the plug and the core
were not the same temperature. They let both sit for a couple
of hours to equalize the temperature, and then the plug slid in with
no problems. But as Joe says, in yoke installation (and, I
may add, plutonium core insertion), the key word is
NO FORCE. =P
BTW, I did a run to the Trinity Site (White Sands Missile Range
opens it up twice a year to visitors.) After I visited Trinity,
I did some shunpiking and offroading (found a nice box canyon),
and also got some great pics of the VLA. All the pics are 1600x1200,
though, and I haven't had a chance to reduce them. When I do,
I will post a trip report and the pics to the list.
Tony
Joe W wrote:
> Rob,
>
> Make ABSOLUTELY sure that the reason you can't put the yoke on is because
> you have damaged the splines by trying to force it on. Recently, I helped a
> member who had the exact same problem and when I looked at the splines on
> the yoke... there was very small gouges that you could see on the ends of
> the splines inside the yoke. The splines were *just* compressed enough
> because of the force the member used (and it doesn't take much) to cause
> them not to line up properly (the ends of the splines were flared out
> slightly and you REALLY had to look close to see it). I ended up fixing the
> problem by taking a small dremel grinding wheel and smoothing out the
> splines on the yoke. I also used the dremel to put a bevel (45 degrees or
> so) on the transfer case output shaft to make it easier to engage without
> damaging the yoke.
>
> The key word here is NO FORCE... if it doesn't go on smoothly, most likely
> you have damaged the splines on the yoke assembly OR you forgot to bevel the
> edge of the transfer case output shaft. Take a few minutes under a bright
> light and examine things closely... I'll bet you some Krispy Kreme doughnuts
> that you've banged up the splines <grin>.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 11:26 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Another SYE question
>
> I started the cut and tap SYE on my TJ. Got the shaft cut and
> everything cleaned up. I was putting on the yoke to see how it fit
> and I was going to use it to mark the center of the output shaft,
> but I can't get the yoke to go on. I cleaned up the shaft, so there
> are no burs or anything. I decided to use the piece of the output
> shaft I cut of that has the beveled end to see if it was just hard
> to line up after you cut the end, and even that wont go on. I'm
> beginning to wonder if I got the correct part. I kinda have to get
> this done by 5:00 because I have school tonight, so I am starting to
> get a little frustrated. If anyone can give me a little insight I
> would appreciate it! -Rob
>
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>
>
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83180 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:22pm
Subject: NEED HELP
Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete 4 of the 7-8
projects she had in the works...........
1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The area directly
around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept. is signing
and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt Hwy. The west
boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4 ranchers in the
area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV and motorcycle
stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am proposing "4x4
play areas".
2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in Scottsdale. Many of
you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago. This meeting
lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would retain "some"
trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are helping with
this project.
4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful canyon just west
of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the Kingman BLM
are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling for workers
for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put signs along
the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday we need two
crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land Dept. ends May
2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
weekend.
I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important project/issue.
PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV groups need
to help at 201.
Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00 a.m................. for
those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday please contact me
and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those of you that
can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
p.m...........
I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON "THE OTHER
GUY"............... THANKS......
Sandee
83181 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:39pm
Subject: FW: NEED HELP
Please read Sandee's e-mail below.....and lend a hand if you can!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:23 PM
To: mccullen@c...
Subject: [az_vjc] NEED HELP
Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete 4 of the
7-8
projects she had in the works...........
1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The area
directly
around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept. is
signing
and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt Hwy. The
west
boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4 ranchers in
the
area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV and
motorcycle
stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am proposing
"4x4
play areas".
2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in Scottsdale.
Many of
you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago. This
meeting
lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would retain
"some"
trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are helping
with
this project.
4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful canyon
just west
of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the Kingman
BLM
are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling for
workers
for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put signs
along
the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday we need
two
crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land Dept. ends
May
2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
weekend.
I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important
project/issue.
PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV groups
need
to help at 201.
Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00 a.m.................
for
those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday please
contact me
and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those of you
that
can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
p.m...........
I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON "THE
OTHER
GUY"............... THANKS......
Sandee
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83182 From: sdrichm <sdrichm@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 6:44pm
Subject: Tops
Would a 2002 TJ soft top or 2002 Bikini top fit on a 2003 TJ???
Steve
83183 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Apr 20, 2003 7:02pm
Subject: Re: NEED HELP
Alas, unfortunately I have a torn tendon or ligament in my
right arm which the VA Hospital refuses to do anything
about, so I will not be able to help. =/
I would be able to pick up trash, though, that's why
I thought the White Tank Mountains South Sand Hills
cleanup would be a good thing. =)
Tony
Sandee McCullen wrote:
> Just need "arm power" to help pound trail signs in this week. We'll be
> working with a post hole digger and a portable concrete mixer on the
> weekend. Three 15 ft. poles with 4x8 plywood panels between. These will be
> the three temporary kiosks. One on the west side off Ironwood Rd.; one at
> the junction of Hwy 60 and Hwy 79 at Florence Junction and one on the south
> edge alone Hunt Hwy........... The signs within are like the Forest Service
> uses........... there's a special "post setter" pounder to use.
>
> Hope you can make it out to help................. Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: intertwingled [mailto:intertwingled@q...]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:30 PM
> > To: Sandee McCullen
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] NEED HELP
> >
> >
> >
> > Errm, what can I do to help? I'm one guy and a jeep.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> > Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >
> > > Tammy Pike from the ASLD has received authorization to complete
> > 4 of the 7-8
> > > projects she had in the works...........
> > >
> > > 1. M.P. 201 in Gold Canyon east of Apache Junction. The
> > area directly
> > > around 201 will be closed for "dust" issues but the Land Dept.
> > is signing
> > > and opening several hundred miles of trails just east of the 201
> > > marker....... (Kings Ranch Road) to Hwy 79 and south to Hunt
> > Hwy. The west
> > > boundry is Ironwood Road. This is a partnership with the 4
> > ranchers in the
> > > area as well as Game & Fish. This is a HUGE step forward in obtaining
> > > access for motorized recreation. I know most of this is ATV
> > and motorcycle
> > > stuff but there are several gravel pits in the area that I am
> > proposing "4x4
> > > play areas".
> > >
> > > 2. The second local area is the Pima & Dynamite area in
> > Scottsdale. Many of
> > > you helped by attending a RED SHIRT meeting about a year ago.
> > This meeting
> > > lead to a "partnership" deal meaning the motorized users would
> > retain "some"
> > > trails and riding trails, as well as access into the Forest roads.
> > >
> > > 3. The third project is the 50 Year Trail in Tucson area. This is
> > > predominately a non-motorized trail so the mountain bikers are
> > helping with
> > > this project.
> > >
> > > 4. The fourth project is the "re-opening" of a beautiful
> > canyon just west
> > > of Kingman. This canyon borders a BLM Wilderness area so the
> > Kingman BLM
> > > are helping with this, along with a couple of 4x4 clubs in the area.
> > >
> > > The PROBLEM is: We NEED WORKERS IMMEDIATELY!!!! I am calling
> > for workers
> > > for the 201 area......... we need 5-10 guys that can help put
> > signs along
> > > the trails Tues (TOMORROW) - Friday. Saturday and maybe Sunday
> > we need two
> > > crews each day of approx. 5-10 guys each. An a.m. crew and a p.m.
> > > crew................ we'll be putting in three kiosks on saturday....
> > > finishing the signing if needed and using Sunday if needed.
> > >
> > > These projects MUST be completed by this weekend or we lose
> > > ALL................ Tammy Pike's OHV position at State Land
> > Dept. ends May
> > > 2 and ALL checks, receipts and project personnell are done as of this
> > > weekend.
> > >
> > > I know this is ugly short notice but it is for an important
> > project/issue.
> > > PLEASE find an hour or two to help out. The Arizona Trail Riders are
> > > handling the Scottsdale project....... the 4-wheelers and ATV
> > groups need
> > > to help at 201.
> > >
> > > Tomorrow we will be meeting at the Texaco at 11:00
> > a.m................. for
> > > those of you that can spare some time Wed, Thurs or Friday
> > please contact me
> > > and I'll put you in touch with the project manager.
> > >
> > > For those of you that can help out on Saturday.............. we'll be
> > > meeting at the Florence Junction Texaco at 8:00 a.m. For those
> > of you that
> > > can make it for the afternoon I'll meet you at the Texaco at 1:00
> > > p.m...........
> > >
> > > I TRULY NEED YOUR HELP ON THIS SO PLEASE DON'T PUT THIS OFF ON
> > "THE OTHER
> > > GUY"............... THANKS......
> > >
> > > Sandee
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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83184 From: Donald Whitehead <donjodie@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: Chicago Winch pictures
Hello All
Just in case you want to see want a $289 which looks like.
It came with the winch mount and 100' of 3/8 cable.
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83185 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:24pm
Subject: Hi-Lift Handle Hugger
Some of you may remember a posting from a Jeeper about being a beta tester for what he now calls the Hi-Lift Handle Hugger. About 20 of you got one of these little gadgets in the mail for some beta testing.
It appears that the testing period is over and they can be had by one and all.
Details on it at: http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/handle-hugger.htm
All in all, it is a pretty cool little widget!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
83186 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:55pm
Subject: Re: Hi-Lift Handle Hugger
Yeah, they are COOL!!!! NO MORE JIGGLES!!!! Get one!
Ray
AZAV8ER
Stu Olson wrote:
Some of you may remember a posting from a Jeeper about being a beta tester for what he now calls the Hi-Lift Handle Hugger. About 20 of you got one of these little gadgets in the mail for some beta testing.
It appears that the testing period is over and they can be had by one and all.
Details on it at: http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/handle-hugger.htm
All in all, it is a pretty cool little widget!
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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83187 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: cv driveshaft
Who has the best deals in town on cv driveshafts? At this point I
don't necessarily need the beefiest in the world, I just need
something that will get me by for a couple months until I can afford
a better one.
-Mark
83188 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: RE: Tops
Yes
-----Original Message-----
From: sdrichm [mailto:sdrichm@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 6:45 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Tops
Would a 2002 TJ soft top or 2002 Bikini top fit on a 2003 TJ???
Steve
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83189 From: Off Road <off-road@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:19pm
Subject: Can anyone identify type of snake
Hi Gang:
I took this picture last Thursday on Cottonwood Canyon, work lead me to Florence and I figured a little dirt on the way home would not hurt. Saw this critter right in the middle of the trail, had to slam the breaks to avoid running it over. I waited until it crossed to my right side and took this picture. I don't know much about snakes so I'm curious as to what kind this is (could not make out the distinctive rattler so my guess is that its not one).
Thanks
Jose
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83190 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 21, 2003 8:20pm
Subject: RE: Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
John,
It's similar in strength and the gear ratios are very close. They switched
to it in model year 2000. It's the same manual tranny you find in the light
duty Dodge trucks (except that the bellhousing is different). As far as I
have seen they are about equal.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: John Teel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 2:33 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: more 4 cyl (and tranny) questions
My 2001 4.0L has the NV3550 tranny. How does that compare to the AX15? Is
it better or worse? I'm not sure why mine has a different tranny than most
others but that's what the dealer says I have.
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> The 4 cylinder tranny will not bolt up to the 6.
>
> The input spline count on the transfercase is also different so the
> transfercase won't bolt up to a 6 cylinder tranny without changing
out the
> input shaft.
>
> So you essentially need the 6 cylinder engine, tranny, and
transfercase.
>
> The motor mounts welded to the frame are different so you will need
to cut
> them off the frame and have the 4 cylinder mounts welded in.
>
> Then there is the wiring and computer to deal with.
>
> If you are going to that much trouble you may as well pick up a 350
V8,
> 700R4, and your choice of transfercase instead. Cost and effort will
be
> similar to swapping in the 6.
>
> And Joey K is wrong about the AX5 and AX15 differences. The trannies
appear
> similar but there is a lot more different than just the output. Even
the
> drain and fill locations are different on the AX5 vs AX15. The AX15
is
> substantially stronger all around and is supposed to be able to
handle V8
> power. I just had bad luck with mine when it died at 28k miles. This
was due
> to a discrepancy form the factory on which GL rated lube to use in
it. I
> know of others with 98s and 99s that have ran the wrong fluid due to
the
> typo in the owners manual.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxj91 [mailto:toyland76@m...]
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] more 4 cyl questions
>
>
> thanks to all who responded to my 4 cyl questions. pretty much what
i
> expected. i am sure i could live with the 4, but as someone said,
> i've never heard anyone with the 6 say they wish they had the 4.(
> maybe after they broke something). but lets just say i couldnt wait
> to get the extra cash and bought a 4 cyl.( no i havent yet). it
would
> probably be a 97 or98. down the road how difficult would a swap to a
> newer 4.0 be ? if i used the same tranny, 4.0 and 5 spd. how about
> the 4.0 and aw-4 in the xj's? that seems like a good combo. are the
> electrics/ computers similar? what about a 4.3? thanks again, byron
>
>
>
>
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