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82790 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:20am
Subject: testing
testing, one two three.
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82791 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:22am
Subject: [Fwd: Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use (STL) Permits...]
intertwingled wrote:
> What is Tammy's supervisor's phone number? I want to
> have a talk with him. I promise I will be nice. =)
>
> Tony
>
> Sandee McCullen wrote:
>
> > Tammy Pike, Az State Land Dept. OHV Manager, took it upon herself to allow
> > permits to be sold by a few individuals and/or 4x4 shops to show how
> > important it is to "get these out to the public". Her immediate supervisor
> > HATES OHV. He has fought Tammy at every turn................ My personal
> > thoughts on this is 4-wheelers will again have permits, as will others
> > across the state, but until this initial problem with "where does the money
> > go"; "the OHV fund being STOLEN to balance the state deficit"; "Tammy's
> > position going away"; "ASLD wanting an OHV position but they don't want to
> > fund it";........ etc, etc, everything is on hold.
> >
> > Those individuals and/or companies that still have permits can sell them but
> > no more will be distributed when these are gone.
> >
> > I've attached an information sheet about the permits and where they can be
> > obtained............ excluding 4-Wheelers right now.
> >
> > Sandee
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Donald Whitehead [mailto:donjodie@a...]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:42 PM
> > > To: Stu Olson; Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>; Joe West
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > (STL) Permits...
> > >
> > >
> > > Driven Auto Part still has the permits
> > > But they are closed now (6pm) until Monday.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > > To: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>; "Arizona Virtual Jeep club
> > > <azvjc@azvjc. org>" <azvjc@a...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:46 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > (STL) Permits...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I can't imagine that this would be the issue... it was a public service
> > > kind
> > > > of thing....
> > > > It certainly brought in foot traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:13 PM
> > > > To: Joe West; Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>
> > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > > (STL) Permits...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > maybe too much of a hassle? (just a guess)
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:06 PM
> > > > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > > (STL) Permits...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know why?
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Name: ASLD RECREATIONAL USE PERMIT CLARIFICATION.doc
> > ASLD RECREATIONAL USE PERMIT CLARIFICATION.doc Type: Winword File (application/msword)
> > Encoding: base64
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> Even the safest course is fraught with peril.
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82792 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: What's the future of Cottonwood Rd access to FJ
Sandee,
You must have been out of town for a while. Looks like you're
catching up on a lot of backed up email.
Thanks for the information,
Larry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
wrote:
> The National Guard helped the ASLD make the "parking" area at the
Hwy 79
> entrance to Cottonwood Canyon Rd....... They are talking of
a "loading
> ramp" for ATV's and motorcycles. If this is abused and
recreationists go
> beyond the fenced area..... riding, parking, doing donuts, etc the
entire
> area will be closed to our use so hopefully we will ALL play our
part and
> help police the area. Yes, there will be a gate installed
> eventually........... when the National Guard are training,
Cottonwood
> Canyon will be closed to "THROUGH TRAFFIC" while the ANG are in the
area.
> We will need to enter the area from Hwy 60, through Superior or
through Box
> Canyon.
>
> Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: highjeeps [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 11:56 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] What's the future of Cottonwood Rd access to FJ
> >
> >
> > I was out at FJ yesterday (been a while) and noticed the build up
at
> > the Cottonwood Rd. entrance. That is the parking area now has a
big
> > log fence around the perimeter and it looks like a gate could be
> > installed in the future limiting access (just a guess). Does this
mean
> > we may loose free access to this area sometime soon or is this
> > nothing to worry about? (I haven't noticed any other discussions
on
> > this).
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
82793 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:14pm
Subject: Lokar Kick down cable
I need a little assistance from anyone with an auto tranny using this cable. I have one used with no instructions and it is driving me crazy. Pics of the throttle linkage and how it hooks up would be wonderful!
Thanks
Craig
82794 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:28pm
Subject: RE: Fuel gauge adjustment??
I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
only went to 1/4.
When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
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82795 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 0:31pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
does that kind of work?
Thanks,
Tony
DesertJeep wrote:
> I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
> my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
> on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
>
> Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
>
> Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
>
> Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
> regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
> only went to 1/4.
>
> When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
> that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
>
> Thanks
> Greg
> 90YJ
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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82796 From: fountainhillsaz1 <fountainhillsaz1@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:38pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
Really that easy to get 20 gal?
Does anyone have a write-up of this with pics for the reading-
impaired? I can see me cutting the wrong tube and making the
conversion from 15 to 5 gallon.
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
>
> If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
> off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
> it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
> could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
> of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
> when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
> experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
> the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
> convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
> You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
>
> I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
> with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
> does that kind of work?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
> DesertJeep wrote:
>
> > I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit
limiting
> > my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep
sputtering)
> > on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
> >
> > Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
> >
> > Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
> >
> > Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
> > regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last
tank
> > only went to 1/4.
> >
> > When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy
adjustment
> > that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Greg
> > 90YJ
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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82797 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:26pm
Subject: Re: LOCKERS
Matt:
I installed a Powertrax no-slip on 03/29/03 and I cannot feel the
thing in there, on the road of course, off-road I noticed the
difference immediately, an obstacle I always had to shift to 4-lo to
get over, was cleared effortlessly in 4-hi with the locker.
Under snow/wet conditions?, I don't have any first had experience
but I don't worry about them here in the Valley of the Sun :). - Jose
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "msand1977" <msand1977@y...> wrote:
> CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST A SMOOTH OPERATING AUTOMATIC LOCKER FOR A D35
> REAR THAT WONT INTERFERE WITH STREET OPERATION.
>
>
> THANKS
> MATT
82798 From: Nick N <nnote@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:31pm
Subject:
Anyone have some stock shocks laying around? My springs have sagged and my oversized shocks keep bottoming out and breaking my rear axle shock mounts (93yj2.5l). I seen another was broken today and it's badly cracked. Already been welded once..... I might go look for those shock mounts that are part of the spring plate, or whatever thats called that bolts the springs to the axle...
I live and cooper and chandler.
Nick
82799 From: Ramon Rubio <rrubio32@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:44pm
Subject: Re: Lockers
The lockright by powertrax is a great one.I've had mine on my WJ for about 6 months now and it's works wonders offroad.The street manner is not noticable at all unless i put it in 2wd then i can definelty feel the grabbing on a small turn.But i leave it in 4fulltime and i good to go.Had it up in Flag a couple of times during the snow and i could not really tell any differnence than if it was on dry pavement.
82800 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:23pm
Subject: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Just saw this article in AZCentral (Republic): http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0415statelands-ON.html
I wonder if this will open up a bunch of new possibilities for environmentalists to grab ranch land and close it for offroad use.
82801 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:28pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
According to the story the rancher that had the previous lease, it
had already closed it to off road use. Do ranchers who hold a lease
on State School land usually leave it open to off roading? Is State
School land different from State Trust land?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> Just saw this article in AZCentral (Republic):
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0415statelands-ON.html
>
> I wonder if this will open up a bunch of new possibilities for
environmentalists to grab ranch land and close it for offroad use.
82802 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:06pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
82803 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:33pm
Subject: Re: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
emmm Tea argh's
Mike H.
82804 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:42pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
Joe,
Another club member (sorry, I am so bad with names) passed along a
contribution to me which I gave directly to John at the 4WD workshop.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to the following individuals for contributing
to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
I'd like to publicly thank the following individuals for their contribution
to the Hunter Offroad Ramp Fund:
Michael Hoyt
Stu Olson
Brad Kilgore
Scott Kruize
Michael Wixom
Gary Holmes
Shawn Passmore
Scott Bruns
Bill Hooven
John DeRuiter
For those who wish to contribute, you can paypal funds to:
arizonajeep@c...
The purpose of this fund is to assist John at Hunter Offroad in replacing
his Ramp Travel Index (RTI) Ramp which was stolen. As a group, many of us
have used this ramp over the last couple of years so I thought it would be
nice if we helped John replace the ramp (especially since he built it for us
for AZVJC BBQ 1).
For those who were going to contribute parts such as spindles, bearings,
wheels and tires for the ramp... could you please contact me offline so I
can arrange to pick this stuff up?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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82805 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:39pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
That would be cool but the article mentioned something about approved lease reasons are for ranching, mining and environmental protection. I know this is a specific case dealing with not many acres but I'm wondering if a can of worms was just opened.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com
To: whooven@cox.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
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82806 From: Tom Patterson <trpsys@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:46pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
Try:
Vigilante Offroad
Jay Langham
928-636-0027
They built a 20 gallon steel tank for my TJ.
Tom Patterson
intertwingled wrote:
If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
does that kind of work?
Thanks,
Tony
DesertJeep wrote:
I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
only went to 1/4.
When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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82807 From: run_andy74cj5 <andrew.j.thomas@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:26pm
Subject: two-inch lift for 97 TJ
Hi All:
I'd like to slap a two-inch lift on my '97 TJ (i know - it's lame)
to eliminate tire rub (31" BFG MT's). I basically do some mild
wheeling (3.0 - 4.0), but will be driving it across the country on
my sabbatical this summer. Was wondering what sort of "gotcha's"
might be involved, for instance:
* Is a slip-yoke eliminator necessary?
* Will I need to extend the brake lines?
* Should I get a dropped pitman arm?
* If i have a winch/heavy front bumper, should i also put spacers
on the front springs to compensate for any sag?
* what sort of time should i allot for doing the install (e.g. is
it a six-pack worth of effort or a full case...)?
* What other questions should I ask?
I'm toying with the idea of the Teraflex 2" lift - they've got a
real nice write-up on how to install it on their website. Any
recommendations for a 2" lift are welcome - I'd prefer not to pay a
zillion dollars when it's only a 2" lift (and my money is supposed
to be allotted to my CJ5 project).
Thanks in advance
Andy Thomas
'97 TJ
'75 CJ5
82808 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:58pm
Subject: Another thanks to Rick Beer...
Hi Gang,
My daughter needed to have two front tires replaced... the local discount
tire guy who didn't know my daughter from Adam wouldn't pro-rate her worn
discount tires (worn because of a front end alignment problem so really,
this was proper company policy). A quick call to Rick Beer resulted in a
50% discount and an almost $80 savings over what my daughter was quoted.
Once again... Rick goes out of his way to make a happy customer.
Thanks Rick!
Joe West
By the way... Rick is located at the 4th avenue and Bell Road Discount Tire
store... but you can call him and he will take care of your order and you
can pick the tires up at any Discount Tire Store located near you.
82809 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Another thanks to Rick Beer...
I second that!!!
I just got 35s put on my Jeep. Rick gave me a great deal and is spreading
that word on the tires that I took off and now have for sale.
John DeRuiter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Another thanks to Rick Beer...
> Hi Gang,
>
> My daughter needed to have two front tires replaced... the local discount
> tire guy who didn't know my daughter from Adam wouldn't pro-rate her worn
> discount tires (worn because of a front end alignment problem so really,
> this was proper company policy). A quick call to Rick Beer resulted in a
> 50% discount and an almost $80 savings over what my daughter was quoted.
>
> Once again... Rick goes out of his way to make a happy customer.
>
> Thanks Rick!
>
> Joe West
>
> By the way... Rick is located at the 4th avenue and Bell Road Discount
Tire
> store... but you can call him and he will take care of your order and you
> can pick the tires up at any Discount Tire Store located near you.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
82810 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:44pm
Subject: Re: two-inch lift for 97 TJ
Andy, are you rubbing, with the 31s, when you go wheeling, and, if so, are
you disconnecting the front sway bar ?? Also, when the 31s rub, do they rub
on the under side of the fenders at full flex ??
If the answer is yes to those questions, than simply adding 2" of suspension
lift (either via longer springs or using spring spacers), won't stop the
rubbing.. You'll still rub at full flex.. What you need is a simply bumpstop
adjustment.. Simply lower (space down) the bumpstops a little such that the
31's don't rub at full flex..
Now, if you *want* a suspension lift for other reasons, then that's a
different story ;)
If you don't want to spend a lot of money, a 2" spring spacer lift (with
longer shocks and bumpstops), would be the least expensive way to go..
Depending on the shocks, you'll also maintain your on-road ride.. The other
end of the spectrum would be one of the really top of the line lifts, like
the OME 2 1/2" lift.. They make, IMHO, the best springs and shocks
available, for that size lift.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "run_andy74cj5" <andrew.j.thomas@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] two-inch lift for 97 TJ
> Hi All:
>
> I'd like to slap a two-inch lift on my '97 TJ (i know - it's lame)
> to eliminate tire rub (31" BFG MT's). I basically do some mild
> wheeling (3.0 - 4.0), but will be driving it across the country on
> my sabbatical this summer. Was wondering what sort of "gotcha's"
> might be involved, for instance:
> * Is a slip-yoke eliminator necessary?
> * Will I need to extend the brake lines?
> * Should I get a dropped pitman arm?
> * If i have a winch/heavy front bumper, should i also put spacers
> on the front springs to compensate for any sag?
> * what sort of time should i allot for doing the install (e.g. is
> it a six-pack worth of effort or a full case...)?
> * What other questions should I ask?
>
> I'm toying with the idea of the Teraflex 2" lift - they've got a
> real nice write-up on how to install it on their website. Any
> recommendations for a 2" lift are welcome - I'd prefer not to pay a
> zillion dollars when it's only a 2" lift (and my money is supposed
> to be allotted to my CJ5 project).
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andy Thomas
> '97 TJ
> '75 CJ5
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
82811 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:48pm
Subject: RE: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
Get the MTR's. They are very civil on the street and provide superior
traction for the type of terrain we have here. The sidewall strength is far
stronger than the BFG KO & KM or any of the Interco Radials.
There still isn't a better tire for all around use out there.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
Soliciting opinions, educated and otherwise, regarding what kind of
tires I should go with once the lift is on.
I will be putting on the Rubicon Express 3.5 Super Flex kit, and then
upgrading to 33" tires (gotta' get that skid plate away from the
ground). I am going with 285/75R16 on the stock rims. That part is
decided.
Now to the question part. Looking at another set of MTRs or BFG KOs
or TrXus. Can't go wrong with MTRs, the BFGs have that rim protector
thing that is kinda cool, and the TrXus seem very cool (Interco
baby!), but I want to be sure they don't wind up being another
Thornbird, and they are only 2 ply sidewall.
Where is the best place to get any of these tires?
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82812 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:51pm
Subject: RE: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
I believe an argument could be made that a responsible group of 4 wheelers are providing environmental protection and would fall on this category. It may take a bit of work but could be done.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hooven [mailto:whooven@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; cowboy7575@aol.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
That would be cool but the article mentioned something about approved lease reasons are for ranching, mining and environmental protection. I know this is a specific case dealing with not many acres but I'm wondering if a can of worms was just opened.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com
To: whooven@cox.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
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82813 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:52pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
Hey Joe,
Are you going to put a kill switch on it? How about a Lojack?
<Grin>
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to
Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
I'd like to publicly thank the following individuals for their contribution
to the Hunter Offroad Ramp Fund:
Michael Hoyt
Stu Olson
Brad Kilgore
Scott Kruize
Michael Wixom
Gary Holmes
Shawn Passmore
Scott Bruns
Bill Hooven
John DeRuiter
For those who wish to contribute, you can paypal funds to:
arizonajeep@c...
The purpose of this fund is to assist John at Hunter Offroad in replacing
his Ramp Travel Index (RTI) Ramp which was stolen. As a group, many of us
have used this ramp over the last couple of years so I thought it would be
nice if we helped John replace the ramp (especially since he built it for us
for AZVJC BBQ 1).
For those who were going to contribute parts such as spindles, bearings,
wheels and tires for the ramp... could you please contact me offline so I
can arrange to pick this stuff up?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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82814 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:53pm
Subject: Re: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
If it's a daily driver and tire ware is a concern, go with the BFG's. If
tire ware is not a concern, get the MTR's...they rock on the rocks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
To: "'Kent Warner'" <KnetAZ@q...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
> Get the MTR's. They are very civil on the street and provide superior
> traction for the type of terrain we have here. The sidewall strength is
far
> stronger than the BFG KO & KM or any of the Interco Radials.
>
> There still isn't a better tire for all around use out there.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
>
>
> Soliciting opinions, educated and otherwise, regarding what kind of
> tires I should go with once the lift is on.
>
> I will be putting on the Rubicon Express 3.5 Super Flex kit, and then
> upgrading to 33" tires (gotta' get that skid plate away from the
> ground). I am going with 285/75R16 on the stock rims. That part is
> decided.
>
> Now to the question part. Looking at another set of MTRs or BFG KOs
> or TrXus. Can't go wrong with MTRs, the BFGs have that rim protector
> thing that is kinda cool, and the TrXus seem very cool (Interco
> baby!), but I want to be sure they don't wind up being another
> Thornbird, and they are only 2 ply sidewall.
>
> Where is the best place to get any of these tires?
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
82790 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:20am
Subject: testing
testing, one two three.
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82791 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 11:22am
Subject: [Fwd: Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use (STL) Permits...]
intertwingled wrote:
> What is Tammy's supervisor's phone number? I want to
> have a talk with him. I promise I will be nice. =)
>
> Tony
>
> Sandee McCullen wrote:
>
> > Tammy Pike, Az State Land Dept. OHV Manager, took it upon herself to allow
> > permits to be sold by a few individuals and/or 4x4 shops to show how
> > important it is to "get these out to the public". Her immediate supervisor
> > HATES OHV. He has fought Tammy at every turn................ My personal
> > thoughts on this is 4-wheelers will again have permits, as will others
> > across the state, but until this initial problem with "where does the money
> > go"; "the OHV fund being STOLEN to balance the state deficit"; "Tammy's
> > position going away"; "ASLD wanting an OHV position but they don't want to
> > fund it";........ etc, etc, everything is on hold.
> >
> > Those individuals and/or companies that still have permits can sell them but
> > no more will be distributed when these are gone.
> >
> > I've attached an information sheet about the permits and where they can be
> > obtained............ excluding 4-Wheelers right now.
> >
> > Sandee
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Donald Whitehead [mailto:donjodie@a...]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 5:42 PM
> > > To: Stu Olson; Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>; Joe West
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > (STL) Permits...
> > >
> > >
> > > Driven Auto Part still has the permits
> > > But they are closed now (6pm) until Monday.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > > To: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>; "Arizona Virtual Jeep club
> > > <azvjc@azvjc. org>" <azvjc@a...>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:46 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > (STL) Permits...
> > >
> > >
> > > > I can't imagine that this would be the issue... it was a public service
> > > kind
> > > > of thing....
> > > > It certainly brought in foot traffic.
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 3:13 PM
> > > > To: Joe West; Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>
> > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > > (STL) Permits...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > maybe too much of a hassle? (just a guess)
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:06 PM
> > > > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep club <azvjc@azvjc. org>
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Four Wheeler Supply no longer sells State Land Use
> > > > (STL) Permits...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone know why?
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Name: ASLD RECREATIONAL USE PERMIT CLARIFICATION.doc
> > ASLD RECREATIONAL USE PERMIT CLARIFICATION.doc Type: Winword File (application/msword)
> > Encoding: base64
>
> --
> Even the safest course is fraught with peril.
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82792 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: What's the future of Cottonwood Rd access to FJ
Sandee,
You must have been out of town for a while. Looks like you're
catching up on a lot of backed up email.
Thanks for the information,
Larry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
wrote:
> The National Guard helped the ASLD make the "parking" area at the
Hwy 79
> entrance to Cottonwood Canyon Rd....... They are talking of
a "loading
> ramp" for ATV's and motorcycles. If this is abused and
recreationists go
> beyond the fenced area..... riding, parking, doing donuts, etc the
entire
> area will be closed to our use so hopefully we will ALL play our
part and
> help police the area. Yes, there will be a gate installed
> eventually........... when the National Guard are training,
Cottonwood
> Canyon will be closed to "THROUGH TRAFFIC" while the ANG are in the
area.
> We will need to enter the area from Hwy 60, through Superior or
through Box
> Canyon.
>
> Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: highjeeps [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 11:56 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] What's the future of Cottonwood Rd access to FJ
> >
> >
> > I was out at FJ yesterday (been a while) and noticed the build up
at
> > the Cottonwood Rd. entrance. That is the parking area now has a
big
> > log fence around the perimeter and it looks like a gate could be
> > installed in the future limiting access (just a guess). Does this
mean
> > we may loose free access to this area sometime soon or is this
> > nothing to worry about? (I haven't noticed any other discussions
on
> > this).
> > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
82793 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:14pm
Subject: Lokar Kick down cable
I need a little assistance from anyone with an auto tranny using this cable. I have one used with no instructions and it is driving me crazy. Pics of the throttle linkage and how it hooks up would be wonderful!
Thanks
Craig
82794 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:28pm
Subject: RE: Fuel gauge adjustment??
I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
only went to 1/4.
When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
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82795 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 16, 2003 0:31pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
does that kind of work?
Thanks,
Tony
DesertJeep wrote:
> I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
> my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
> on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
>
> Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
>
> Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
>
> Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
> regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
> only went to 1/4.
>
> When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
> that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
>
> Thanks
> Greg
> 90YJ
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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82796 From: fountainhillsaz1 <fountainhillsaz1@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:38pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
Really that easy to get 20 gal?
Does anyone have a write-up of this with pics for the reading-
impaired? I can see me cutting the wrong tube and making the
conversion from 15 to 5 gallon.
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
>
> If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
> off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
> it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
> could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
> of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
> when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
> experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
> the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
> convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
> You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
>
> I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
> with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
> does that kind of work?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
> DesertJeep wrote:
>
> > I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit
limiting
> > my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep
sputtering)
> > on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
> >
> > Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
> >
> > Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@y...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
> >
> > Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
> > regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last
tank
> > only went to 1/4.
> >
> > When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy
adjustment
> > that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Greg
> > 90YJ
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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82797 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:26pm
Subject: Re: LOCKERS
Matt:
I installed a Powertrax no-slip on 03/29/03 and I cannot feel the
thing in there, on the road of course, off-road I noticed the
difference immediately, an obstacle I always had to shift to 4-lo to
get over, was cleared effortlessly in 4-hi with the locker.
Under snow/wet conditions?, I don't have any first had experience
but I don't worry about them here in the Valley of the Sun :). - Jose
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "msand1977" <msand1977@y...> wrote:
> CAN ANY ONE SUGGEST A SMOOTH OPERATING AUTOMATIC LOCKER FOR A D35
> REAR THAT WONT INTERFERE WITH STREET OPERATION.
>
>
> THANKS
> MATT
82798 From: Nick N <nnote@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:31pm
Subject:
Anyone have some stock shocks laying around? My springs have sagged and my oversized shocks keep bottoming out and breaking my rear axle shock mounts (93yj2.5l). I seen another was broken today and it's badly cracked. Already been welded once..... I might go look for those shock mounts that are part of the spring plate, or whatever thats called that bolts the springs to the axle...
I live and cooper and chandler.
Nick
82799 From: Ramon Rubio <rrubio32@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 2:44pm
Subject: Re: Lockers
The lockright by powertrax is a great one.I've had mine on my WJ for about 6 months now and it's works wonders offroad.The street manner is not noticable at all unless i put it in 2wd then i can definelty feel the grabbing on a small turn.But i leave it in 4fulltime and i good to go.Had it up in Flag a couple of times during the snow and i could not really tell any differnence than if it was on dry pavement.
82800 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:23pm
Subject: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Just saw this article in AZCentral (Republic): http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0415statelands-ON.html
I wonder if this will open up a bunch of new possibilities for environmentalists to grab ranch land and close it for offroad use.
82801 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 3:28pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
According to the story the rancher that had the previous lease, it
had already closed it to off road use. Do ranchers who hold a lease
on State School land usually leave it open to off roading? Is State
School land different from State Trust land?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> Just saw this article in AZCentral (Republic):
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0415statelands-ON.html
>
> I wonder if this will open up a bunch of new possibilities for
environmentalists to grab ranch land and close it for offroad use.
82802 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 0:06pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
82803 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:33pm
Subject: Re: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
emmm Tea argh's
Mike H.
82804 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:42pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
Joe,
Another club member (sorry, I am so bad with names) passed along a
contribution to me which I gave directly to John at the 4WD workshop.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to the following individuals for contributing
to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
I'd like to publicly thank the following individuals for their contribution
to the Hunter Offroad Ramp Fund:
Michael Hoyt
Stu Olson
Brad Kilgore
Scott Kruize
Michael Wixom
Gary Holmes
Shawn Passmore
Scott Bruns
Bill Hooven
John DeRuiter
For those who wish to contribute, you can paypal funds to:
arizonajeep@c...
The purpose of this fund is to assist John at Hunter Offroad in replacing
his Ramp Travel Index (RTI) Ramp which was stolen. As a group, many of us
have used this ramp over the last couple of years so I thought it would be
nice if we helped John replace the ramp (especially since he built it for us
for AZVJC BBQ 1).
For those who were going to contribute parts such as spindles, bearings,
wheels and tires for the ramp... could you please contact me offline so I
can arrange to pick this stuff up?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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82805 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:39pm
Subject: Re: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
That would be cool but the article mentioned something about approved lease reasons are for ranching, mining and environmental protection. I know this is a specific case dealing with not many acres but I'm wondering if a can of worms was just opened.
Bill
--------------
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http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com
To: whooven@cox.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
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82806 From: Tom Patterson <trpsys@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 4:46pm
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge adjustment??
Try:
Vigilante Offroad
Jay Langham
928-636-0027
They built a 20 gallon steel tank for my TJ.
Tom Patterson
intertwingled wrote:
If you banged it, better drop the tank, take the skid plate
off and have a real good look at the tank (I am assuming
it's plastic.) You may have a hole in the tank and it
could be anywhere on the tank (for example, along one
of the seams.) Or you could wait until your next emissions
when you fail your pressurization test. I had a similar
experience with my plastic gas tank. I had to replace
the tank with a used one, it was pretty simple to
convert the tank from 15 gallons to 20 gallons:
You just pull out a piece of tubing, cut, and reinsert.
I am planning on replacing the 20 gallon plastic tank
with a 20 gallon steel tank. Anyone know who
does that kind of work?
Thanks,
Tony
DesertJeep wrote:
I have recently banged my fuel tank. The skid is bent up a bit limiting
my tank a gallon or few. I now have started to run low (jeep sputtering)
on gas at just less then 1/2 a tank.
Sorry I don't have a solution but you may check this issue.
Also you should convert the 15 gal. Tank to a 20.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: fountainhillsaz1 [mailto:fountainhillsaz1@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:32 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Fuel gauge adjustment??
Have a 90 YJ 2.5L with the standard 15 gal tank. I have been
regularly running out of gas with 1/8 tank showing, but the last tank
only went to 1/4.
When I fill up, the gauge goes way high. Is there an easy adjustment
that can be made to the sender or the gauge?
Thanks
Greg
90YJ
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82807 From: run_andy74cj5 <andrew.j.thomas@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:26pm
Subject: two-inch lift for 97 TJ
Hi All:
I'd like to slap a two-inch lift on my '97 TJ (i know - it's lame)
to eliminate tire rub (31" BFG MT's). I basically do some mild
wheeling (3.0 - 4.0), but will be driving it across the country on
my sabbatical this summer. Was wondering what sort of "gotcha's"
might be involved, for instance:
* Is a slip-yoke eliminator necessary?
* Will I need to extend the brake lines?
* Should I get a dropped pitman arm?
* If i have a winch/heavy front bumper, should i also put spacers
on the front springs to compensate for any sag?
* what sort of time should i allot for doing the install (e.g. is
it a six-pack worth of effort or a full case...)?
* What other questions should I ask?
I'm toying with the idea of the Teraflex 2" lift - they've got a
real nice write-up on how to install it on their website. Any
recommendations for a 2" lift are welcome - I'd prefer not to pay a
zillion dollars when it's only a 2" lift (and my money is supposed
to be allotted to my CJ5 project).
Thanks in advance
Andy Thomas
'97 TJ
'75 CJ5
82808 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 5:58pm
Subject: Another thanks to Rick Beer...
Hi Gang,
My daughter needed to have two front tires replaced... the local discount
tire guy who didn't know my daughter from Adam wouldn't pro-rate her worn
discount tires (worn because of a front end alignment problem so really,
this was proper company policy). A quick call to Rick Beer resulted in a
50% discount and an almost $80 savings over what my daughter was quoted.
Once again... Rick goes out of his way to make a happy customer.
Thanks Rick!
Joe West
By the way... Rick is located at the 4th avenue and Bell Road Discount Tire
store... but you can call him and he will take care of your order and you
can pick the tires up at any Discount Tire Store located near you.
82809 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Another thanks to Rick Beer...
I second that!!!
I just got 35s put on my Jeep. Rick gave me a great deal and is spreading
that word on the tires that I took off and now have for sale.
John DeRuiter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Another thanks to Rick Beer...
> Hi Gang,
>
> My daughter needed to have two front tires replaced... the local discount
> tire guy who didn't know my daughter from Adam wouldn't pro-rate her worn
> discount tires (worn because of a front end alignment problem so really,
> this was proper company policy). A quick call to Rick Beer resulted in a
> 50% discount and an almost $80 savings over what my daughter was quoted.
>
> Once again... Rick goes out of his way to make a happy customer.
>
> Thanks Rick!
>
> Joe West
>
> By the way... Rick is located at the 4th avenue and Bell Road Discount
Tire
> store... but you can call him and he will take care of your order and you
> can pick the tires up at any Discount Tire Store located near you.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
82810 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:44pm
Subject: Re: two-inch lift for 97 TJ
Andy, are you rubbing, with the 31s, when you go wheeling, and, if so, are
you disconnecting the front sway bar ?? Also, when the 31s rub, do they rub
on the under side of the fenders at full flex ??
If the answer is yes to those questions, than simply adding 2" of suspension
lift (either via longer springs or using spring spacers), won't stop the
rubbing.. You'll still rub at full flex.. What you need is a simply bumpstop
adjustment.. Simply lower (space down) the bumpstops a little such that the
31's don't rub at full flex..
Now, if you *want* a suspension lift for other reasons, then that's a
different story ;)
If you don't want to spend a lot of money, a 2" spring spacer lift (with
longer shocks and bumpstops), would be the least expensive way to go..
Depending on the shocks, you'll also maintain your on-road ride.. The other
end of the spectrum would be one of the really top of the line lifts, like
the OME 2 1/2" lift.. They make, IMHO, the best springs and shocks
available, for that size lift.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "run_andy74cj5" <andrew.j.thomas@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 5:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] two-inch lift for 97 TJ
> Hi All:
>
> I'd like to slap a two-inch lift on my '97 TJ (i know - it's lame)
> to eliminate tire rub (31" BFG MT's). I basically do some mild
> wheeling (3.0 - 4.0), but will be driving it across the country on
> my sabbatical this summer. Was wondering what sort of "gotcha's"
> might be involved, for instance:
> * Is a slip-yoke eliminator necessary?
> * Will I need to extend the brake lines?
> * Should I get a dropped pitman arm?
> * If i have a winch/heavy front bumper, should i also put spacers
> on the front springs to compensate for any sag?
> * what sort of time should i allot for doing the install (e.g. is
> it a six-pack worth of effort or a full case...)?
> * What other questions should I ask?
>
> I'm toying with the idea of the Teraflex 2" lift - they've got a
> real nice write-up on how to install it on their website. Any
> recommendations for a 2" lift are welcome - I'd prefer not to pay a
> zillion dollars when it's only a 2" lift (and my money is supposed
> to be allotted to my CJ5 project).
>
> Thanks in advance
> Andy Thomas
> '97 TJ
> '75 CJ5
>
>
>
>
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>
>
82811 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:48pm
Subject: RE: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
Get the MTR's. They are very civil on the street and provide superior
traction for the type of terrain we have here. The sidewall strength is far
stronger than the BFG KO & KM or any of the Interco Radials.
There still isn't a better tire for all around use out there.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
Soliciting opinions, educated and otherwise, regarding what kind of
tires I should go with once the lift is on.
I will be putting on the Rubicon Express 3.5 Super Flex kit, and then
upgrading to 33" tires (gotta' get that skid plate away from the
ground). I am going with 285/75R16 on the stock rims. That part is
decided.
Now to the question part. Looking at another set of MTRs or BFG KOs
or TrXus. Can't go wrong with MTRs, the BFGs have that rim protector
thing that is kinda cool, and the TrXus seem very cool (Interco
baby!), but I want to be sure they don't wind up being another
Thornbird, and they are only 2 ply sidewall.
Where is the best place to get any of these tires?
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82812 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:51pm
Subject: RE: Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
I believe an argument could be made that a responsible group of 4 wheelers are providing environmental protection and would fall on this category. It may take a bit of work but could be done.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hooven [mailto:whooven@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; cowboy7575@aol.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
That would be cool but the article mentioned something about approved lease reasons are for ranching, mining and environmental protection. I know this is a specific case dealing with not many acres but I'm wondering if a can of worms was just opened.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com
To: whooven@cox.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Environmentalists get right to bid for land leases
Does anyone know what the going rate is for grazing land per acre ? I see the rancher made it quite clear in his petition that he stopped off roading.......I wonder if we can get a lease on some land or if all the clubs together can get a lease, we could build some new trails :-)
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82813 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:52pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
Hey Joe,
Are you going to put a kill switch on it? How about a Lojack?
<Grin>
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:38 AM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to the following individuals for contributing to
Hunter Offroad's Stolen Ramp
I'd like to publicly thank the following individuals for their contribution
to the Hunter Offroad Ramp Fund:
Michael Hoyt
Stu Olson
Brad Kilgore
Scott Kruize
Michael Wixom
Gary Holmes
Shawn Passmore
Scott Bruns
Bill Hooven
John DeRuiter
For those who wish to contribute, you can paypal funds to:
arizonajeep@c...
The purpose of this fund is to assist John at Hunter Offroad in replacing
his Ramp Travel Index (RTI) Ramp which was stolen. As a group, many of us
have used this ramp over the last couple of years so I thought it would be
nice if we helped John replace the ramp (especially since he built it for us
for AZVJC BBQ 1).
For those who were going to contribute parts such as spindles, bearings,
wheels and tires for the ramp... could you please contact me offline so I
can arrange to pick this stuff up?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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82814 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 15, 2003 6:53pm
Subject: Re: New shoes for Rubi, need advice
If it's a daily driver and tire ware is a concern, go with the BFG's. If
tire ware is not a concern, get the MTR's...they rock on the rocks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
To: "'Kent Warner'" <KnetAZ@q...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
> Get the MTR's. They are very civil on the street and provide superior
> traction for the type of terrain we have here. The sidewall strength is
far
> stronger than the BFG KO & KM or any of the Interco Radials.
>
> There still isn't a better tire for all around use out there.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] New shoes for Rubi, need advice
>
>
> Soliciting opinions, educated and otherwise, regarding what kind of
> tires I should go with once the lift is on.
>
> I will be putting on the Rubicon Express 3.5 Super Flex kit, and then
> upgrading to 33" tires (gotta' get that skid plate away from the
> ground). I am going with 285/75R16 on the stock rims. That part is
> decided.
>
> Now to the question part. Looking at another set of MTRs or BFG KOs
> or TrXus. Can't go wrong with MTRs, the BFGs have that rim protector
> thing that is kinda cool, and the TrXus seem very cool (Interco
> baby!), but I want to be sure they don't wind up being another
> Thornbird, and they are only 2 ply sidewall.
>
> Where is the best place to get any of these tires?
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>