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82382 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:03am
Subject: Re: Photo Radar in Scottsdale
There are a few here but these are all speedtrap vans I think:
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/ste.asp?state=AZ&range=M-Z
----- Original Message -----
From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Photo Radar in Scottsdale
> Does anyone know a site that identifies which intersections in
> Scottsdale that are equipped with photo radar? I'm not sure if I made
> it through Granite Reef and McDowell Rd (Scottsdale) this morning and
> I want to know if I should expect (potentially) a red light ticket?
> Mind you I am not saying that I did run a red light, but it was
> close. ;-)
>
> Thx,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
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82383 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:10am
Subject: Re: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
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>
>
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>
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82384 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:11am
Subject: Re: Box Canyon/Martinez Cabin Pics
Great pics James, thanx for posting those. And thanx to everyone on
the run, I had a gas. Appreciate the info I got from everyone, and
thanx for everyones patience will I was figuring out how to dirve the
new Jeep. 254 miles on the odometer and it already has its first
trail run under its belt.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Rogers" <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> Go here http://boxcanyon.jamesrogers.net/
>
> and if that doesn't work try this one
>
> http://members.cox.net/topjimmy/jeep/boxcanyongallery/FrameSet.htm
>
> If anyone wants bigger or full size versions (1800 x 1200) let me
know and I
> will e-mail them to you or give them to you on CD if you are
bandwidth
> challenged (they average around 500K and some are more than 1 MB).
Some
> turned out pretty good and might make good wallpaper.
82385 From: Michael Hudson <mhudson@d...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:15am
Subject: RE: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
you need a permit to run the trails in Florence Jtn.?
where in Phoenix do I get a permit?
how deep is the river crossing on the coke ovens run these days?
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Bill Hooven; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; jcteel
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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82386 From: G. Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:27am
Subject: Re: Box Canyon/Martinez Cabin Pics
I will have my pics up at this URL...
http://www.wingnutskates.com/jeeppics.htm
I still have to upload them, and I might not be able
to get to it until this weekend. Check back if you
dont see them up. It was a blast wheelin with ya! -Rob
--- James Rogers <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> Go here http://boxcanyon.jamesrogers.net/
>
> and if that doesn't work try this one
>
>
http://members.cox.net/topjimmy/jeep/boxcanyongallery/FrameSet.htm
>
> If anyone wants bigger or full size versions (1800 x
> 1200) let me know and I
> will e-mail them to you or give them to you on CD if
> you are bandwidth
> challenged (they average around 500K and some are
> more than 1 MB). Some
> turned out pretty good and might make good
> wallpaper.
>
>
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82387 From: ajeepgirlinaz <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:40am
Subject: Re: DEAL!! [WAS: Still clunking ]
I don't think you want to open that can of worms again.... ;)
On second thought...I'll come sweep your garage, if you come help me
move next weekend!!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> Who's garage will you sweep while he's gone? You can come sweep
mine
> anytime. ;) Don't tell Sharky, I don't want to ever see that
again!
>
> Mike Anderson
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wade,
> >
> > I hope you were able to figure out what was wrong. Duffy asked me
> to
> > tell you that he is out of town, and could be for some time.(work
> > stuff). He's Sorry he couldn't help this time....
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically
just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work?
Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or
what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
> > >
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82388 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:44am
Subject: Re: Re: Still clunking ]
Wade, do you have CV joints? If so check to see if your boot is cracked. If it is, your CV joint may be out.
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically
just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work?
Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or
what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
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82389 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:01am
Subject: Abrasive supply for restoration sandblasting?
Does anyone know where I can get some abrasives for restorative sandblasting? I considered silica sand, which I can get at Home Depot but I'd like to pay a bit more for something like Starblast XL which has almost no silica and much less dust. I've done some reading on sandblasting and I have some health concerns with using silica sand. I'm taking notes so anyone else here who wants to venture into sandblasting their rig might benefit from this info also.
Thanks,
Bill
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82390 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:09am
Subject: RE: Re: Rear Bumper
True, Joey K and I built a nice one for his rig. Just took a little time and
he got exactly what he wanted. I'm sure he can post a pic.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:04 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear Bumper
BUILD IT! You can build a rear bumper with swing out carrier for
under $100. You can build a matching front bumper for half that. You
can save yourself a few hundred dollars. If you are interested e- mail me
off list and I'll tell you all about it, and answer all your
questions. It really isn't that hard. -Rob
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82391 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:08am
Subject: Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
CALL: 1-888-567-8688
82392 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:12am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
Doesn't offend me, but what is your "LEGIT" source?
Here is mine:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/credit.htm
At 11:08 AM 4/10/2003 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
CALL: 1-888-567-8688
82393 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:15am
Subject: RE: Release of credit information
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
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82394 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:19am
Subject: Re: Re: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Easy breezy I may be gone but I still check my email when I get a chance!
Duffster
> Who's garage will you sweep while he's gone? You can come sweep mine
> anytime. ;) Don't tell Sharky, I don't want to ever see that again!
>
> Mike Anderson
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wade,
> >
> > I hope you were able to figure out what was wrong. Duffy asked me
> to
> > tell you that he is out of town, and could be for some time.(work
> > stuff). He's Sorry he couldn't help this time....
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
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82395 From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Sign Expression Phone #
I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
Thanks,
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82396 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
What gears do you need .....I am picking up an axle this week from a early
yj....you can have it for 150.00 which is what Im buying it for and I am
comign down to PHX on Sunday...I could bring it then
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://xjnation.homestead.com/xjnation.html
----Original Message Follows----
From: "OneBdJeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
To: "'Kyle Hagan'" <kyle@u...>,"'Joe West'"
<joe.west@s...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu Olson"
<solson8@q...>
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:33:01 -0700
hey kyle!!!! maybe you can do payments to the person that joe spoke of who
has that full plug and play axle. see if ya can work something out! good
luck!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: 'Kyle Hagan' ; 'Joe West' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Since I don't have any D35 parts, I'll simply make a comment here. $300
for a complete axle is a good deal if the gears in it are what you need and
it is ready to drop into place. Labor for setting up gears runs $150 to
$300, depending on who you have do it. Add another $100 for a master
overhaul kit. You said the carrier and gears were both bad..been too long
since I priced those..you'll have to get a price on them yourself. Plus,
assuming your axle shafts are not bad, you will have a pair of spare shafts
(for free).
If the axle that Joe mentioned is literally plug and play, it is a pretty
good deal, IMO. My last plug and play axle was over $2000.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Hagan [mailto:kyle@u...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:37 PM
To: Joe West; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
I just got the cover off and its completely shredded. The gears and the
carrier.
Anyone have any ides for a cheap (read free or payment plan) ideas?
Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe West
To: Joe West ; Kyle Hagan ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Hey Gang,
Looks like things aren't falling into place for Kyle yet... the axle I
had lined up for Kyle costs $300 and I just spoke to Kyle and he would
prefer to use donated used parts instead of having to spend $300 for a low
mileage complete axle (I don't own the axle in question; a friend of mine
does). Perhaps he can repair whatever is broken with less expense...
If you have D35 parts you can donate... please shoot Kyle an email and
let him know what you have... he is on his way home with the tow truck and
his rig.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:30 PM
To: Kyle Hagan; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Kyle,
I have a complete D35 axle... drum to drum ready to bolt in...
nothing to assemble and it only has about 10,000 miles on it.
If you are interested... contact me at (602) 616-0785 or send me an
email to my work (this) or home (arizonajeep@c...) email address.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Hagan [mailto:kyle@u...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:24 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
On my way to work this morning all of a sudden there was thumping
sound and I couldnt move any more. It appears my D35 rear blew out. I had to
put it in 4wd and for about 10mph for about a quarter mile to get to work.
Can anybody help me with a spare and help me put it in?? I cant
even get home this afternoon and I dont have the money right now to pay the
dealer to put a new one in... I can tell anything about the problem by
looking. But if I was to guess the gears inside broke off. It jumps when im
moving.
Please Help me.... :(
If ANYONE can help please email me or call me on my Cell at
602-348-6457 or my Direst line at work at 480-481-7752
Right now im at 60th st and Thomas. Butif anyone can help I can
have it towed some where.
Thanks in advance,
Kyle
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82397 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:30am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
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82398 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:29am
Subject: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, April 12, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Greg Kenny is leading a Martinez Canyon trail run on Saturday, April 12, 2003.
When: 8:30 meet roll 9:00 am
Where: meet at cottonwood canyon rd. between FJ and Florence
Rating: 4.0+
Length: whatever
CB Channel: 4
Will probably do Jackhandle as a warm up first. If you've never run Martinez bring a camera.
Martinez Canyon has to be one of the most beautiful canyons south of the Sedona AZ red bluffs. To reach the trailhead you travel over rolling hills of desert cactus, shrubs and trees. All of a sudden you enter a narrow passageway into a canyon of deep red bluffs and cottonwood trees.
Most of the year there is a spring that winds through the trees and low area. You will find the old homestead at the grouping of cottonwood trees along with some old mining generators and storerooms. Just past the homestead you will drop into the wash and follow it to the old mill.
The road winds back and forth across the wash as well as follows the wash for a time but the trail stays in the wash. You can spend hours "playing" on the rocks and waterfalls.
A mile or so into the wash you will approach a large landslide blocking the wash so the trail starts up the switchback trail "to the top of the world". The view from the top of the mountain is breathtaking.
As you start back down the switchback trail you will find it has been washed out, big time! The washout cuts through several of the "switchbacks" in a cut approximately 8 feet deep and 8 foot wide, so down you go. After a drop into the washout you will crank a hard left turn and literally freeslide on the loose gravel/dirt about 200 yards.
The first comment made from one of the original founders is the best description to the end of a great day of wheeling. "This is better than an 'E' Ticket ride at Disneyland! It's wheel'n the luge!"
This trail is definitely for the "extreme" vehicle as well as an experienced driver. Lockers are required and 33" tires and maximum clearance are a must.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
NOTE: 2/17/02 - I (Stu Olson) ran the trail yesterday and I believe it is safe to say that there is not much of a chance to "run the luge" anymore. I could be mistaken, but few (any?) would survive the drop into the luge. It is extrememly erroded now and the old bypass is now the main path down, IMO.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
82399 From: OneBdJeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:34am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
I have heard this too. i opted out. my brother works for the state of tx and his boss notified him of this.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daver
To: Ray B.
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Doesn't offend me, but what is your "LEGIT" source?
Here is mine:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/credit.htm
At 11:08 AM 4/10/2003 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
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82400 From: Mark Peterson <stinger75ih@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:38am
Subject: Re: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, April 12, 2003 - Reminder
I thought the actual canyon was signed and closed due to private
property at the old mining area. Meaning you can go up to it, or up
and around the way you usually come out; but you can not cross the
private property.
Sandee? What is the real status of the canyon?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
82401 From: OneBdJeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:35am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
hmmm... can i say 1/2 gullible then?
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray B.
To: DesertJeep
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
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82402 From: <BSEaston@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:41am
Subject: Wrench Party.
OK Guys,
My 99 TJ needs help. I may purchase a 3.5" RE kit with Rancho 9000 shocks
from Jason. He mentioned the kit is easy to install with some help. He also said
if I held a wrench party it was a good way to meet some people in the group. Plus
I could gain a better understanding of where everything fits. I may even replace the gears if I can find some help...Any takers....??????
WRENCH PARTY
The Beer & Pizza will be on me....
To be held when I get my parts. But I will need a facility.
Bryce Easton
82403 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:07pm
Subject: RE: Release of credit information
Another urban legend SCAM.
You can check out http://www.urbanlegends.com and do a search for Credit Bureau and it pops right up.
I would recommend that EVERYONE check out urbanlegends.com before passing along this... ummm....errrrr.... Crap?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: OneBdJeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:36 AM
To: DesertJeep; Ray B.
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
hmmm... can i say 1/2 gullible then?
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray B.
To: DesertJeep
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
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82404 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:17pm
Subject: RE: Sign Expression Phone #
go to: http://www.signxpressions.com
It's on the opening page.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Smitty [mailto:jeepinsmitty@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:26 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Sign Expression Phone #
I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
Thanks,
Smitty
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82405 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:14pm
Subject: Re: Sign Expression Phone #
480-206-6551
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
>To: AZVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Sign Expression Phone #
>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
>
>I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Smitty
>
>
>
>
>
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82406 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:00pm
Subject: Re: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
This is certainly not new news.. It's been discussed here, on the az_vcj
listserver close to a zillion times in the last year.. :)
Most of the trails in the Florence/Florence Jtn are, themselves, not on STL,
but you go through STL to get to them and therefore are required to have a
STL permit.. The fine is $500.00 for not having one.
It's also been posted here, a zillion times (ok a few times less), recently,
that the Sheriff, etc., has been cracking down out there for the last year
or so..
I haven't been done to the River anytime lately, so I really don't know how
deep it is now.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Hudson" <mhudson@d...>
To: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>; "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
you need a permit to run the trails in Florence Jtn.?
where in Phoenix do I get a permit?
how deep is the river crossing on the coke ovens run these days?
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Bill Hooven; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; jcteel
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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82382 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:03am
Subject: Re: Photo Radar in Scottsdale
There are a few here but these are all speedtrap vans I think:
http://www.speedtrap.org/speedtraps/ste.asp?state=AZ&range=M-Z
----- Original Message -----
From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Photo Radar in Scottsdale
> Does anyone know a site that identifies which intersections in
> Scottsdale that are equipped with photo radar? I'm not sure if I made
> it through Granite Reef and McDowell Rd (Scottsdale) this morning and
> I want to know if I should expect (potentially) a red light ticket?
> Mind you I am not saying that I did run a red light, but it was
> close. ;-)
>
> Thx,
> Larry
>
>
>
>
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82383 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:10am
Subject: Re: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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82384 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:11am
Subject: Re: Box Canyon/Martinez Cabin Pics
Great pics James, thanx for posting those. And thanx to everyone on
the run, I had a gas. Appreciate the info I got from everyone, and
thanx for everyones patience will I was figuring out how to dirve the
new Jeep. 254 miles on the odometer and it already has its first
trail run under its belt.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Rogers" <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> Go here http://boxcanyon.jamesrogers.net/
>
> and if that doesn't work try this one
>
> http://members.cox.net/topjimmy/jeep/boxcanyongallery/FrameSet.htm
>
> If anyone wants bigger or full size versions (1800 x 1200) let me
know and I
> will e-mail them to you or give them to you on CD if you are
bandwidth
> challenged (they average around 500K and some are more than 1 MB).
Some
> turned out pretty good and might make good wallpaper.
82385 From: Michael Hudson <mhudson@d...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:15am
Subject: RE: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
you need a permit to run the trails in Florence Jtn.?
where in Phoenix do I get a permit?
how deep is the river crossing on the coke ovens run these days?
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Bill Hooven; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; jcteel
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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82386 From: G. Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:27am
Subject: Re: Box Canyon/Martinez Cabin Pics
I will have my pics up at this URL...
http://www.wingnutskates.com/jeeppics.htm
I still have to upload them, and I might not be able
to get to it until this weekend. Check back if you
dont see them up. It was a blast wheelin with ya! -Rob
--- James Rogers <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> Go here http://boxcanyon.jamesrogers.net/
>
> and if that doesn't work try this one
>
>
http://members.cox.net/topjimmy/jeep/boxcanyongallery/FrameSet.htm
>
> If anyone wants bigger or full size versions (1800 x
> 1200) let me know and I
> will e-mail them to you or give them to you on CD if
> you are bandwidth
> challenged (they average around 500K and some are
> more than 1 MB). Some
> turned out pretty good and might make good
> wallpaper.
>
>
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82387 From: ajeepgirlinaz <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:40am
Subject: Re: DEAL!! [WAS: Still clunking ]
I don't think you want to open that can of worms again.... ;)
On second thought...I'll come sweep your garage, if you come help me
move next weekend!!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> Who's garage will you sweep while he's gone? You can come sweep
mine
> anytime. ;) Don't tell Sharky, I don't want to ever see that
again!
>
> Mike Anderson
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wade,
> >
> > I hope you were able to figure out what was wrong. Duffy asked me
> to
> > tell you that he is out of town, and could be for some time.(work
> > stuff). He's Sorry he couldn't help this time....
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically
just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work?
Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or
what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
> > >
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82388 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 9:44am
Subject: Re: Re: Still clunking ]
Wade, do you have CV joints? If so check to see if your boot is cracked. If it is, your CV joint may be out.
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically
just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work?
Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or
what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
> > >
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82389 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:01am
Subject: Abrasive supply for restoration sandblasting?
Does anyone know where I can get some abrasives for restorative sandblasting? I considered silica sand, which I can get at Home Depot but I'd like to pay a bit more for something like Starblast XL which has almost no silica and much less dust. I've done some reading on sandblasting and I have some health concerns with using silica sand. I'm taking notes so anyone else here who wants to venture into sandblasting their rig might benefit from this info also.
Thanks,
Bill
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82390 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 10:09am
Subject: RE: Re: Rear Bumper
True, Joey K and I built a nice one for his rig. Just took a little time and
he got exactly what he wanted. I'm sure he can post a pic.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 7:04 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear Bumper
BUILD IT! You can build a rear bumper with swing out carrier for
under $100. You can build a matching front bumper for half that. You
can save yourself a few hundred dollars. If you are interested e- mail me
off list and I'll tell you all about it, and answer all your
questions. It really isn't that hard. -Rob
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82391 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:08am
Subject: Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
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82392 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:12am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
Doesn't offend me, but what is your "LEGIT" source?
Here is mine:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/credit.htm
At 11:08 AM 4/10/2003 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
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82393 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:15am
Subject: RE: Release of credit information
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
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82394 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:19am
Subject: Re: Re: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Easy breezy I may be gone but I still check my email when I get a chance!
Duffster
> Who's garage will you sweep while he's gone? You can come sweep mine
> anytime. ;) Don't tell Sharky, I don't want to ever see that again!
>
> Mike Anderson
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Wade,
> >
> > I hope you were able to figure out what was wrong. Duffy asked me
> to
> > tell you that he is out of town, and could be for some time.(work
> > stuff). He's Sorry he couldn't help this time....
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well everybody,
> > > I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and checked
> > the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both
> on
> > straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look
> > pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the
> > problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front
> > right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking
> or
> > accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be
> no
> > rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to
> > a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically just
> > need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
> fix
> > it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
> > that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone
> > else? TIA...I appreciate it.
> > > ~Wade
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> > > To: AZVJC
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
> > >
> > >
> > > A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a
> weird
> > clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
> the
> > wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or
> gas
> > and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day
> before
> > this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did
> > nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what
> to
> > look for to find the culprit? TIA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~Wade
> > > '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
> > >
> > >
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82395 From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Sign Expression Phone #
I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
Thanks,
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82396 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
What gears do you need .....I am picking up an axle this week from a early
yj....you can have it for 150.00 which is what Im buying it for and I am
comign down to PHX on Sunday...I could bring it then
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://xjnation.homestead.com/xjnation.html
----Original Message Follows----
From: "OneBdJeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
To: "'Kyle Hagan'" <kyle@u...>,"'Joe West'"
<joe.west@s...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu Olson"
<solson8@q...>
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 19:33:01 -0700
hey kyle!!!! maybe you can do payments to the person that joe spoke of who
has that full plug and play axle. see if ya can work something out! good
luck!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: 'Kyle Hagan' ; 'Joe West' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:23 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Since I don't have any D35 parts, I'll simply make a comment here. $300
for a complete axle is a good deal if the gears in it are what you need and
it is ready to drop into place. Labor for setting up gears runs $150 to
$300, depending on who you have do it. Add another $100 for a master
overhaul kit. You said the carrier and gears were both bad..been too long
since I priced those..you'll have to get a price on them yourself. Plus,
assuming your axle shafts are not bad, you will have a pair of spare shafts
(for free).
If the axle that Joe mentioned is literally plug and play, it is a pretty
good deal, IMO. My last plug and play axle was over $2000.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Hagan [mailto:kyle@u...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 6:37 PM
To: Joe West; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
I just got the cover off and its completely shredded. The gears and the
carrier.
Anyone have any ides for a cheap (read free or payment plan) ideas?
Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe West
To: Joe West ; Kyle Hagan ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Hey Gang,
Looks like things aren't falling into place for Kyle yet... the axle I
had lined up for Kyle costs $300 and I just spoke to Kyle and he would
prefer to use donated used parts instead of having to spend $300 for a low
mileage complete axle (I don't own the axle in question; a friend of mine
does). Perhaps he can repair whatever is broken with less expense...
If you have D35 parts you can donate... please shoot Kyle an email and
let him know what you have... he is on his way home with the tow truck and
his rig.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 1:30 PM
To: Kyle Hagan; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
Kyle,
I have a complete D35 axle... drum to drum ready to bolt in...
nothing to assemble and it only has about 10,000 miles on it.
If you are interested... contact me at (602) 616-0785 or send me an
email to my work (this) or home (arizonajeep@c...) email address.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kyle Hagan [mailto:kyle@u...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:24 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
On my way to work this morning all of a sudden there was thumping
sound and I couldnt move any more. It appears my D35 rear blew out. I had to
put it in 4wd and for about 10mph for about a quarter mile to get to work.
Can anybody help me with a spare and help me put it in?? I cant
even get home this afternoon and I dont have the money right now to pay the
dealer to put a new one in... I can tell anything about the problem by
looking. But if I was to guess the gears inside broke off. It jumps when im
moving.
Please Help me.... :(
If ANYONE can help please email me or call me on my Cell at
602-348-6457 or my Direst line at work at 480-481-7752
Right now im at 60th st and Thomas. Butif anyone can help I can
have it towed some where.
Thanks in advance,
Kyle
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82397 From: Ray B. <KB7SKV@C...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:30am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
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82398 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:29am
Subject: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, April 12, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Greg Kenny is leading a Martinez Canyon trail run on Saturday, April 12, 2003.
When: 8:30 meet roll 9:00 am
Where: meet at cottonwood canyon rd. between FJ and Florence
Rating: 4.0+
Length: whatever
CB Channel: 4
Will probably do Jackhandle as a warm up first. If you've never run Martinez bring a camera.
Martinez Canyon has to be one of the most beautiful canyons south of the Sedona AZ red bluffs. To reach the trailhead you travel over rolling hills of desert cactus, shrubs and trees. All of a sudden you enter a narrow passageway into a canyon of deep red bluffs and cottonwood trees.
Most of the year there is a spring that winds through the trees and low area. You will find the old homestead at the grouping of cottonwood trees along with some old mining generators and storerooms. Just past the homestead you will drop into the wash and follow it to the old mill.
The road winds back and forth across the wash as well as follows the wash for a time but the trail stays in the wash. You can spend hours "playing" on the rocks and waterfalls.
A mile or so into the wash you will approach a large landslide blocking the wash so the trail starts up the switchback trail "to the top of the world". The view from the top of the mountain is breathtaking.
As you start back down the switchback trail you will find it has been washed out, big time! The washout cuts through several of the "switchbacks" in a cut approximately 8 feet deep and 8 foot wide, so down you go. After a drop into the washout you will crank a hard left turn and literally freeslide on the loose gravel/dirt about 200 yards.
The first comment made from one of the original founders is the best description to the end of a great day of wheeling. "This is better than an 'E' Ticket ride at Disneyland! It's wheel'n the luge!"
This trail is definitely for the "extreme" vehicle as well as an experienced driver. Lockers are required and 33" tires and maximum clearance are a must.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
NOTE: 2/17/02 - I (Stu Olson) ran the trail yesterday and I believe it is safe to say that there is not much of a chance to "run the luge" anymore. I could be mistaken, but few (any?) would survive the drop into the luge. It is extrememly erroded now and the old bypass is now the main path down, IMO.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
82399 From: OneBdJeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:34am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
I have heard this too. i opted out. my brother works for the state of tx and his boss notified him of this.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daver
To: Ray B.
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Doesn't offend me, but what is your "LEGIT" source?
Here is mine:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/credit.htm
At 11:08 AM 4/10/2003 -0700, Ray B. wrote:
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
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82400 From: Mark Peterson <stinger75ih@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:38am
Subject: Re: [TR] Martinez Canyon - Saturday, April 12, 2003 - Reminder
I thought the actual canyon was signed and closed due to private
property at the old mining area. Meaning you can go up to it, or up
and around the way you usually come out; but you can not cross the
private property.
Sandee? What is the real status of the canyon?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
82401 From: OneBdJeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 11:35am
Subject: Re: Release of credit information
hmmm... can i say 1/2 gullible then?
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray B.
To: DesertJeep
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
CALL: 1-888-567-8688
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82402 From: <BSEaston@a...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 7:41am
Subject: Wrench Party.
OK Guys,
My 99 TJ needs help. I may purchase a 3.5" RE kit with Rancho 9000 shocks
from Jason. He mentioned the kit is easy to install with some help. He also said
if I held a wrench party it was a good way to meet some people in the group. Plus
I could gain a better understanding of where everything fits. I may even replace the gears if I can find some help...Any takers....??????
WRENCH PARTY
The Beer & Pizza will be on me....
To be held when I get my parts. But I will need a facility.
Bryce Easton
82403 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:07pm
Subject: RE: Release of credit information
Another urban legend SCAM.
You can check out http://www.urbanlegends.com and do a search for Credit Bureau and it pops right up.
I would recommend that EVERYONE check out urbanlegends.com before passing along this... ummm....errrrr.... Crap?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: OneBdJeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:36 AM
To: DesertJeep; Ray B.
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
hmmm... can i say 1/2 gullible then?
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray B.
To: DesertJeep
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Guess 1/2 is better than not at all ?! :-)
Ray
AZAV8ER
DesertJeep wrote:
Sorry to shake your confidence but it is only 1/2 LEGIT.
follow this link http://www.privacyrights.org/ar/optout_truth.htm
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray B. [mailto:KB7SKV@CYBERTRAILS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Release of credit information
Hope this message doesn't offend anyone, I have confidence that it is a LEGIT message.
Thought this might be of some use ...
Subject: Credit bureaus allowed to release credit info 7/1/03:
Just wanted to let everyone know who hasn't already heard, the four major credit bureaus in the US will be allowed, starting July 1, to release your credit info, mailing addresses, phone numbers, etc., to anyone who requests it. If you would like to 'opt out' of this release of your info, you can call 1-888-567-8688. It only takes a couple of minutes to do.
Once the message starts you'll choose option #2 (even though option #1 refers to this E-mail) and then option #3 - Be sure to listen closely, the first option is only for a two-year period. Make sure you wait until they prompt for the third option, which opts you out forever.
One thing more. It asks for your social security # at the end. Just press the # key. DO NOT ENTER YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY #
PLEASE PASS THIS MESSAGE ON TO ALL IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND YOUR PERSONAL FRIENDS.
CALL: 1-888-567-8688
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82404 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:17pm
Subject: RE: Sign Expression Phone #
go to: http://www.signxpressions.com
It's on the opening page.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Smitty [mailto:jeepinsmitty@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:26 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Sign Expression Phone #
I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
Thanks,
Smitty
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82405 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 0:14pm
Subject: Re: Sign Expression Phone #
480-206-6551
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
>To: AZVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Sign Expression Phone #
>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:26:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>I am looking for Andrew from Sign expressions Phone #
>
>I need to get some stickers made. Can anyone help me out with his phoe #?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Smitty
>
>
>
>
>
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82406 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Apr 10, 2003 1:00pm
Subject: Re: Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
This is certainly not new news.. It's been discussed here, on the az_vcj
listserver close to a zillion times in the last year.. :)
Most of the trails in the Florence/Florence Jtn are, themselves, not on STL,
but you go through STL to get to them and therefore are required to have a
STL permit.. The fine is $500.00 for not having one.
It's also been posted here, a zillion times (ok a few times less), recently,
that the Sheriff, etc., has been cracking down out there for the last year
or so..
I haven't been done to the River anytime lately, so I really don't know how
deep it is now.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Hudson" <mhudson@d...>
To: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>; "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
you need a permit to run the trails in Florence Jtn.?
where in Phoenix do I get a permit?
how deep is the river crossing on the coke ovens run these days?
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:10 AM
To: Bill Hooven; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; jcteel
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
Guys,
The Box Canyon trail, and possible through to the Martinez Cabins is
very senic. More so that the Coke Ovens run.. Someone told me, a few weeks
ago, the the CO run is a little more difficult now, as the rains have washed
out the steps a fair amount.. At any rate, doing all three would make for a
very long day, especially for you John, coming from Tucson..
The Box Canyon run is really easy, and continuing on to the Martinez Cabins
is also easy.. The views are great.. Lots of red/orange rocks. Box Canyon is
neat, with it's towing, verticle walls and all.
You will need a State Trust Land permit. John, you can get that downtown at
the State Building (here in Tucson).. It's $15.00 (for a full year) for an
individual, or $20.00 for a family (immediate family only, which includes
the children and parents only).
The STL permit is *NOT* per vehicle, it's per person !! Every one, either
via an individual permit, or family permit, needs one.. Remember, the permit
is not for a vehicle to recreate on State Trust Land, but rather for a
person to recreate on State Trust Land.
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> Sunday tentatively sounds fine to me. Let me discuss it with my Mrs. I
have
> not been on any of the three trails you mentioned but I've heard they are
> easy. On Box Canyon you have to have a permit, though. I have one (hope I
> can find it) but I think you need one for each vehicle going through.
>
> Bill
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 12:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
>
>
> > Bill,
> >
> > Yeah, that's why I also asked if anyone was interested in going on
> > one of these trails unofficially. LOL I think the idea of *leading*
> > an official posted run makes some people a bit nervous since that
> > sounds like an aweful lot of responsibility (it does me anyways) and
> > like your expected to be an expert on that trail.
> >
> > Anyways, I'm interested in going. I prefer Sunday but either day is
> > fine. So I take it you've been on these trails before? I don't
> > think a "leader" is really necessary (unless someone wants to) as
> > long as we have at least one person who knows the trail. So which is
> > generally more scenic: Box Canyon, Martinez Cabin, or Coke Ovens?
> > Which is the most fun to drive? In your opinion or whoever answers,
> > of course. If you do either MC or CO you automatically do Box Canyon
> > since if you come from the south you (can) go thru Box Canyon to
> > reach the other two, right? Is it a reasonable day trip to go up
> > thru Box Canyon and then go hit both the Coke Ovens and Martinez
> > Cabin without requiring a dawn to dusk run? Personally I prefer to
> > keep it short if hitting all three requires a super early start.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm *not* interested in leading a trail run through Box
> > Canyon, I
> > > was thinking about taking a trip over there maybe this Sat or Sun.
> > Anyone
> > > else want to get together? I just bought a digital camera and want
> > to fill
> > > up the memory cards ;-).
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > --------------
> > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
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> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 10:39 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Box Canyon or Martinez Cabin?
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm very much interested in doing either Box Canyon or Martinez
> > Cabin
> > > > some weekend soon. Any chance anyone is interested in leading a
> > run
> > > > on one of these trails or on any other ~3.0 trails in the Florence
> > > > area? I've seen some discussion on doing a Martinez Canyon run
> > this
> > > > weekend but that's too advanced for me or my Jeep as of yet. I've
> > > > not been to the Florence area yet and I've been wanting to go
> > there
> > > > for quite some time. I love the Sedona area and and the thought
> > of
> > > > some closer red rock country sounds very appealing.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone wany to post a run on these trails? If anyone has plans of
> > > > doing either of these trails but don't want to really post a
> > formal
> > > > run I sure would be interested in going along if you don't mind
> > > > (weekends only). Just send me an email at jcteel1 @ earthlink.net
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > John Teel (Tucson)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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