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82281 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 10:40pm
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
I may get spammed for this but I dont giva shiznick. The Germans should be boycotted too....and guess who owns JEEP.....
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Norman
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:29 PM
To: Mike & Karen Acuna; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT: French Companies To Boycott
My wife, Vanda, works for one of these companies. The small, privately owned business she has worked for a few years has recently been purchased by a corporation listed below. They seem to be a good company, and Vanda is real happy there. In fact, her pay has increased quite a bit since the buyout.
If everyone, or even many, were to boycott her company, she could quite possibly lose her job, or at least a good chunk of her paycheck.
I hate the French as much as the next guy, but hey, I NEED JEEP PARTS. Think about who may be losing by boycotting French companies. It just may be a red-blooded American jeeper trying to make a living.
Just my .02
Rick Norman
Got Groceries?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna [mailto:mkacuna@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT: French Companies To Boycott
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______
I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> >
> > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car &Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it? OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> >
> > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
Saddam Hussein.
> >
> > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> >
> > Please review this list of major French companies that Americans should boycott.
> >
> > France has every right to disagree with America. But France has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they side with America, France will oppose their membership in the European Union.
> >
> > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used against American soldiers.
> >
> > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies and countries that do not stand with America.
> >
> > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> >
> > Air France.
> > Air Liquide.
> > Airbus.
> > Alcatel.
> > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's gonna hurt!
> > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest).
> > AXA Advisors.
> > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > Beneteau (boats).
> > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > Black Bush.
> > Bollinger (champagne).
> > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > Cartier. ouch!
> > Chanel.
> > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > Christian Dior.
> > Club Med (vacations).
> > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > DKNY.
> > Dom Perignon.
> > Durand Crystal.
> > Elle Magazine.
> > Essilor Optical Products.
> > Evian.
> > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > George Magazine.
> > Givenchy.
> > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > Hennessy.
> > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > Jameson (whiskey).
> > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > Lancome.
> > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > Louis Vuitton.
> > Marie Claire.
> > Martel Cognac.
> > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > Moet (champagne).
> > Motel 6.
> > Motown Records.
> > MP3.com.
> > Mumms (champagne).
> > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > Nivea.
> > Normany Butter.
> > Parents Magazine.
> > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > Pierre Cardin.
> > Playstation Magazine.
> > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > Red Magazine.
> > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > Renault (automobiles).
> > Road & Track Magazine.
> > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > Royal Canadian.
> > Salomon (skis).
> > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > Smart & Final.
> > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > Spencer Gifts.
> > Sundance Channel.
> > Taylor Made (golf).
> > Technicolor.
> > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > Total gas stations.
> > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > Uniroyal.
> > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by Vivendi-Universal).
> > USFilter.
> > Veritas Group.
> > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > Vittel.
> > Vivendi.
> > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> >
>Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
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82282 From: rustydunmire <rustydunmire@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 10:31pm
Subject: TJ flares
Anybody put TJ flares on a YJ. Looking for any tips or advice.
Rusty
rustydunmire@m...
82283 From: oveson2 <oveson.l@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:13pm
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82284 From: jcteel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:20pm
Subject: Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
Okay, I've taken the rear driveshaft off again so that I can take it
to the shop tomorrow to get it converted to a CV. I've drove it a
little more now in FWD and it does okay and it is certainly driveable
but does act strange. Sometimes it wants to pull a little bit but
actually it mostly seems to want to fight me turning. In other words
it likes to continue in the current direction whether that be
straight or turning. Also I can literally feel the front end pulling
instead of the rear end pushing (i.e. you can really tell the front
wheels are being driven and not the rear). It feels funny but you
can really tell that the front end is pulling when you accelerate and
the rear end seems to have a little lag time and you get this
floating kind of feeling. Very strange. I suspect the large tires
and lift just magnify any effects from being a FWD. All of this I'm
sure is completely normal. What's strange though is that when I turn
really sharp (only notice it during a u-turn) I hear a knocking noise
of some sort. I only noticed this once and didn't get a chance to
play with it to see what it was. And no I don't have a locker on the
front. I can't even imagine how ugly that would be to drive!
By this time tomorrow I hope to be vibration free. I'll be sure to
post the results because I'm taking a different route than most do to
fix the driveshaft induced vibrations. I'm installing a CV
driveshaft but without a SYE. Supposedly the kit that allows you to
mount the CV head to the existing slip-yoke output has only been out
a couple of years. I'll be interested to see if the CV alone
eliminates the vibes without reducing the driveshaft angle with the
SYE and longer driveshaft. If this works (and obviously I expect it
will) this will be a much easier fix than a SYE/CV combo (the price
is only slightly cheaper though).
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Halbert" <xj4ltr_1988@c...>
wrote:
> I'm driving my 88 xj without a rear driveshaft right now because I
am in
> need of a new yoke on my rear axle. But I'm also pulling a little
when I
> accelerate and then it pushes the other direction when I
decelerate. I
> don't take any sharp corners obviously but I haven't had any trouble
> driving 65 down the freeway with it. I just don't drive very long
> distances is all.
>
> -Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jcteel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Front-wheel drive Jeep
>
> In order to prove that the vibration problems I'm having are from
the
> angle on the rear driveshaft (I recently installed a lift) I
removed
> the rear driveshaft this weekend and drove it in 4H thus making it
a
> FWD. As I expected all abnormal vibrations were gone; however, it
> behaved very strangely and the front wanted to really pull to the
> side. I expected it to drive normally just as any front-wheel
drive
> vehicle but it didn't. I only drove it down the street and back so
I
> didn't experiment with the problem in detail. Is this normal or
> should it drive normally under these conditions? I need to remove
> the driveshaft again this week and drive it to the driveshaft shop
> and I'm sure it will be fine if I drive slow and take the curves
> carefully but I'm just curious what the problem could be. Any
> ideas? It's a 2001 TJ with a Dana 35 rear and D30 front with a 5-
spd
> trans and the stock xfer case.
>
> Thanks,
> John Teel
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
82285 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:26pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
I don't believe an across the board boycott is effective. I agree with the
harmless changes such as Freedom Fries, etc that get the point out that we
are upset but don't attack any particular business. But to boycott these
companies based upon what Chirac did would be unfair. I'm sure that
management of some of these firms disagree with Chirac and to harm them
would be to harm those in France that just might support us. Most businesses
are non-political in nature. Unless you have proof that one of these
companies was on the record as being against us I think this boycott is
ridiculous and at its worst may inspire new hatred towards Americans by
those same people that currently may support us.
Besides, Michelin makes some damn nice tires and happen to be my favorite
for daily driven vehicles. (Of course I'm keeping the Goodyear MTR's on the
Jeep). Should we all run out and put on some Firestones instead? LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: oveson2 [mailto:oveson.l@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising). RCA
> > > (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics). Red
> > > Magazine. Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake). Yves
> > > Saint Laurent. Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
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82286 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 8:13pm
Subject: Re: TJ flares
Here is a nice "how to" article on the web about this conversion
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/body/tj_flares_yj/
Mike
82287 From: Larry Greene <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 4:56am
Subject: Re: Re: Anyone tried to get 37" BFG Krawler T/A yet?
That's still to rich for me. I'm thinking $280.00 per tire at most is all I want
to pay. :-)
Larry
RICK BEER wrote:
> I can mount & balance the 37-1250r17 Krawlers for 410.00 each
> the 35-1350r15 will run 350.00 installed plus certs.
> last I checked on the MTR's they are still up there in price give it a while
> ALL these will come down in price
> THANKS RICK BEER
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Anyone tried to get 37" BFG Krawler T/A yet?
>
> > Follow up to my original post and topic:
> >
> > I see that 4Wheel Parts is advertising the BFG 37x12.50.17 Krawlers
> > at $410.00 each (big delta between that and what Discount is selling
> > them for). Also 4Wheel Parts shows 37x12.50x17 GY MTRs at $234.00!
> > Big drop from when they first hit the market.
> > Anyone find a lower price than $410.00 for the BFGs?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...> wrote:
> > > I just stopped by Discount Tire to see if they had these yet and
> > their
> > > list price is $475.00 (thereabouts) per tire! (although they said
> > they
> > > would match any price including internet). It looks like they are
> > > going the way of the GY MTRs ... will have to wait a year to get
> > down
> > > to $250 or so. Anyone else get a price yet?
> > >
> > > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
82288 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:01am
Subject: RE: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Wade,
If you want to bring it over, I'd be happy to take a look at it and see if we can find the problem. I live in Mesa.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:06 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Well everybody,
I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and checked the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both on straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking or accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be no rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically just need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to fix it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone else? TIA...I appreciate it.
~Wade
-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a weird clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with the wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or gas and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day before this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what to look for to find the culprit? TIA
~Wade
'97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
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82289 From: Mark Maloy <mdmaloy@m...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 6:58pm
Subject: Your concern for fellow club members
Although I have been a member for about a year, I have subscribed to the mailing list for about a week. This is my first posting to the group. I am simply OVERWHELMED by the concern that has been shown to fellow members of the club, particularly to help Kyle with his shredded D35. I am proud to associate myself with you and look forward to meeting you at a future trail run.
Also, a big public thanks to Rick Beer for helping me with my MT/R's. If you need tires, he is the guy to see.
Kind regards,
Mark Maloy
82290 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:59am
Subject: Re: Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
John,
Regardless of how (or where) the CV mounts, the driveline angles, still,
must be corrected.. The driveshaft is going to be shorter than it currently
is, when you get the CV work done. You'll still have to rotate the pinion at
the rear diff to get all the angle at the CV joint.. Whether the cam bolts
will offer enough adjustment for that or not, I don't know. Keep everyone
informed.
Also a lot of the weird driving quirks that you're experiencing, with only
the front driveshaft, is due to the wider tires and the change in
backspacing that has altered the Ackerman Angle and the scrub radius.. These
are both really important for turning..
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
> Okay, I've taken the rear driveshaft off again so that I can take it
> to the shop tomorrow to get it converted to a CV. I've drove it a
> little more now in FWD and it does okay and it is certainly driveable
> but does act strange. Sometimes it wants to pull a little bit but
> actually it mostly seems to want to fight me turning. In other words
> it likes to continue in the current direction whether that be
> straight or turning. Also I can literally feel the front end pulling
> instead of the rear end pushing (i.e. you can really tell the front
> wheels are being driven and not the rear). It feels funny but you
> can really tell that the front end is pulling when you accelerate and
> the rear end seems to have a little lag time and you get this
> floating kind of feeling. Very strange. I suspect the large tires
> and lift just magnify any effects from being a FWD. All of this I'm
> sure is completely normal. What's strange though is that when I turn
> really sharp (only notice it during a u-turn) I hear a knocking noise
> of some sort. I only noticed this once and didn't get a chance to
> play with it to see what it was. And no I don't have a locker on the
> front. I can't even imagine how ugly that would be to drive!
>
> By this time tomorrow I hope to be vibration free. I'll be sure to
> post the results because I'm taking a different route than most do to
> fix the driveshaft induced vibrations. I'm installing a CV
> driveshaft but without a SYE. Supposedly the kit that allows you to
> mount the CV head to the existing slip-yoke output has only been out
> a couple of years. I'll be interested to see if the CV alone
> eliminates the vibes without reducing the driveshaft angle with the
> SYE and longer driveshaft. If this works (and obviously I expect it
> will) this will be a much easier fix than a SYE/CV combo (the price
> is only slightly cheaper though).
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Halbert" <xj4ltr_1988@c...>
> wrote:
> > I'm driving my 88 xj without a rear driveshaft right now because I
> am in
> > need of a new yoke on my rear axle. But I'm also pulling a little
> when I
> > accelerate and then it pushes the other direction when I
> decelerate. I
> > don't take any sharp corners obviously but I haven't had any trouble
> > driving 65 down the freeway with it. I just don't drive very long
> > distances is all.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jcteel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:30 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Front-wheel drive Jeep
> >
> > In order to prove that the vibration problems I'm having are from
> the
> > angle on the rear driveshaft (I recently installed a lift) I
> removed
> > the rear driveshaft this weekend and drove it in 4H thus making it
> a
> > FWD. As I expected all abnormal vibrations were gone; however, it
> > behaved very strangely and the front wanted to really pull to the
> > side. I expected it to drive normally just as any front-wheel
> drive
> > vehicle but it didn't. I only drove it down the street and back so
> I
> > didn't experiment with the problem in detail. Is this normal or
> > should it drive normally under these conditions? I need to remove
> > the driveshaft again this week and drive it to the driveshaft shop
> > and I'm sure it will be fine if I drive slow and take the curves
> > carefully but I'm just curious what the problem could be. Any
> > ideas? It's a 2001 TJ with a Dana 35 rear and D30 front with a 5-
> spd
> > trans and the stock xfer case.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John Teel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
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82291 From: Montgomery, David <dmontgomery@s...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Used Grand Cherokee
Hi Mike,
Until recently, I owned a 1996 Grand Cherokee since new an put 145K miles on it (well, the ex put the first 87K - but I maintained it!). It is a V8 Laredo 4x4. I also owned an early XJ Cherokee for many years prior to the Grand. I would still own it if the Ex had not gotten it!
With this in mind I would recommend a '96 or newer Grand Cherokee- they went to 4wheel disc brakes, a bigger rear axle for the V8 (318cubic inch - 5.2 liter) The rear axle is an aluminum center section version of the Dana 44 - some folks had trouble with these.
The problems I had were few - the factory battery died at about 2 years. The Water pump went out at about 90K at which time I noticed the radiator was also leaking and it was replaced. I had the overheating problem discussed on the list lately and a new fan clutch fixed that at about 110K. Of course the brakes were done about every 50K. The only time it stranded me on the road was when the cast pot metal power steering bracket broke - it appeared that one of three bolts that held it to the engine had broken earlier - the $20 replacement was in stock at the dealer! I did change the oil every 3-5K miles and changed the other fluids at reasonable intervals. The track bar needed replacement after the lift had been in place for a couple years - $60 from AutoZone).
My favorite would be a 1998 5.9 limited. More power, loaded, 16" wheels, factory louvers on the hood!
There seem to be quite a few on the used market - I would think there would be several affordable choices out there.
Feel free to email if I can help answer any questions or give any more opinions!:
Best Regards,
Dave Montgomery
dmontgomery@sjm.com
Message: 19
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 03:40:05 -0000
From: "cj5gpinn"
Subject: Advice on buying a used Grand Cherokee
Hi All,
Well unfortunately the wife was involved in a car accident, not her
fault, and our Civic was totaled. So we are looking to moving up and
get a used Grand Cherokee. I was hoping for some input. Having only
owned CJs I am not familiar with the common problems one might look
for when buying a used Grand Cherokee. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Mike
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82292 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:56am
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
So Kyle...what's the latest scoop?
Will the axle that Steve offered work out for you?
And to put some prices in perspective (basically I agree with Stu), let's say you wanted to buy a cheap axle (like mine!) for $100. Sure, it's complete and ready to bolt in...to a YJ...with 4.10 gears. If you want to stick with 3.73 gears, you'll spend $150 for new ring/pinion, $75 or so for install kit and $150 for install labor. I still don't know what you drive, but if you don't have a YJ, you'll need to weld on the spring buckets and control arm mounts.
If you do have a YJ, my axle might be a good deal. You can get those 3.73's off the list for $30. My install hardware (bearings, seals and whatnot) only had a few runs on it, so you may not need to buy anything as long as the gear installer thinks they can get the pinion bearing off without damaging it or the seal (many times it's easier to just cut it in half with a grinder to remove, but is not always necessary) . Randy Siade is the best person to answer gearing issues on here, it seems.
Anyway, let me know if you need anything...even if it just turns out to be some "elbow grease". When are you planning on working on this thing?
Last thing, I got one of those t-case plugs from a tranny shop a while ago. Walked in and asked where they get them, and they just gave me one. Unfortunately, it's long been lost...
Tom
work: 480-898-2621
cell: 480-861-4502
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:37:08 -0700
From: "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...>
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
I just got the cover off and its completely shredded. The gears and the carrier.
Anyone have any ides for a cheap (read free or payment plan) ideas?
Kyle
82293 From: Kyle Hagan <kyle@u...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:39am
Subject: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!(Getting the parts today)
Thanks to Steve and Rose Slifer I will be getting a complete axle today. And thanks to Ken U for being able to deliver it.
I will be getting it today. So any of you that would help me put it in today let me know.
The Jeep community is a great bunch of people. Its really amazing what people will do for eash other.
Kyle
82294 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
from?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> Nick
82295 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
The changed the design of the 231 for the TJ's, adding a seal to the rear
output.. The YJ's did *not* have this seal, and would leak if the rear
driveshaft was removed.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
> I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
> a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
> driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
> part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
> from?
>
> Chris
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> > Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
> rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
> the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
> be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
> and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
> similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> > Nick
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
82296 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
The part at the top about the magazines is mostly true...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/magazine.php
Here's some info on the list...
http://www.metrospy.com/boycott_brands.htm
I haven't checked every one, but it seems to be at least mostly true. It is also certainly worth considering that many of these "French" companies employ many Americans, Arizonians, and AZ_VJC members even...
At 06:13 AM 4/9/2003 +0000, oveson2 wrote:
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna"
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82297 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 9:00am
Subject: RE: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
It will leak from the rear output. I have pulled mine a few times and it
leaks profusely. There is a seal that keeps the fluid in right near the
edge of case. This is how the slip part keep lubricated.
If the rear drive shaft output on the transfer case did not leak for you
it is probably because your transfer case is empty of fluid already.
:o
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
from?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> Nick
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82298 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 9:35am
Subject: [OT] M1911A1 Pistol Raffle
I've got raffle tickets for a NEW Reproduction of the beloved WWII US
Army pistol, the M1911A1, Cal .45, with two magizines. Need not be
present to win. This is from the Phoenix "Valley-of-the-Sun" Chapter
82nd Airborne Division Association that I am a member of.
2nd Prize-$300
3rd Prize-$250
4th Prize-$200
5th Prize-$150
6 Tickets for $5
Drawing to be held on National Airborne Day, 16 August 2003.
Contact Jeff Trujillo 480-213-1976 cell or 480-649-5588 home.
82299 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 10:53am
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
Ok, I'll bite:
Hmmm...
"Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
;-)
-Roger
--- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
>
> I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> companies...........it is more for information and
> to make you go hmmm?
>
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > Aqualung.
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA.
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios.
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait.
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82300 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 10:52am
Subject: Re: TJ flares
I put some on my YJ. Assuming you will be trimming metal, here's my
tips:
Rear: Start trimming at the back of the rear fender opening and work
your way forward. You should be able to take off about 3" at the
rear and then will taper down to zero about two thirds of the way
forward. That's the point where you reach the front side of the
fender well and there isn't really any metal to trim there or else
you'll open up the passenger compartment. You should be able to
retain the lip of the flare itself. Some people trim the lip off the
flare but then it looks like a "hack" job. Keeping the lip on the
flare makes it look "factory" (if you care about that).
Note that as you trim the metal along the rear side of the rear
fender opening, you will encounter a vertical support panel that runs
between the inner fender well wall and the outer panel that you're
trimming. You'll need to trim through that and then trim off the
part that extends lower than what you've trimmed off.
Also, there is a plastic liner that sits under the rear corners and
folds up into the fender well where it is attached with some of those
plastic push-in connectors. Many people trim this off at the point
where the metal was trimmed. I trimmed mine slightly but left enough
extra in place that I could fold it up and reattached it using new
holes I drilled for those plastic connectors. This also creates a
more "finished" look and it protects the fuel filler hose on the
driver's side.
Front: You will be able to trim off no more than one inch of metal
along the rear and top side of the fender opening. At the bend where
the fender meets the front cap, I chose to trim the flare lip and
leave the metal lip intact to help maintain structural rigity of the
front part of the fender and front cap. Otherwise, I left the lip on
the flare to create a more "factory" appearance.
I'd be happy to show you my Jeep if you want to meet me somewhere. I
live in northwest Phoenix (39th Ave and Happy Valley Rd).
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rustydunmire" <rustydunmire@m...>
wrote:
> Anybody put TJ flares on a YJ. Looking for any tips or advice.
>
> Rusty
>
> rustydunmire@m...
82301 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 11:03am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
The only Black Bush I know bites back...
Bushmill's Black Bush Irish Whiskey.
At 05:53 PM 4/9/2003 +0000, tomas2691 wrote:
>Ok, I'll bite:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> "Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
>
> ;-)
>
>-Roger
>
>--- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> > companies...........it is more for information and
> > to make you go hmmm?
> >
> > > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > > >
> > > > Air France.
> > > > Air Liquide.
> > > > Airbus.
> > > > Alcatel.
> > > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > > Aqualung.
> > > > AXA Advisors.
> > > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > > Black Bush.
> > > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > > Chanel.
> > > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > > Christian Dior.
> > > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > > DKNY.
> > > > Dom Perignon.
> > > > Durand Crystal.
> > > > Elle Magazine.
> > > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > > Evian.
> > > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > > George Magazine.
> > > > Givenchy.
> > > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > > Hennessy.
> > > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > > Lancome.
> > > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > > Marie Claire.
> > > > Martel Cognac.
> > > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > > Moet (champagne).
> > > > Motel 6.
> > > > Motown Records.
> > > > MP3.com.
> > > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > > Nivea.
> > > > Normany Butter.
> > > > Parents Magazine.
> > > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > > RCA.
> > > > Red Magazine.
> > > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > > Royal Canadian.
> > > > Salomon (skis).
> > > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > > Smart & Final.
> > > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > > Sundance Channel.
> > > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > > Technicolor.
> > > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > > Total gas stations.
> > > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > > Uniroyal.
> > > > Universal Studios.
> > > > USFilter.
> > > > Veritas Group.
> > > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > > Vittel.
> > > > Vivendi.
> > > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > > Yoplait.
> > > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > > >
> > >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82302 From: Frank BadAZXJ <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 11:19am
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Ok, I'll bite:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> "Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
>
> ;-)
>
> -Roger
>
> --- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> > companies...........it is more for information and
> > to make you go hmmm?
> >
> > > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > > >
> > > > Air France.
> > > > Air Liquide.
> > > > Airbus.
> > > > Alcatel.
> > > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > > Aqualung.
> > > > AXA Advisors.
> > > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > > Black Bush.
> > > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > > Chanel.
> > > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > > Christian Dior.
> > > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > > DKNY.
> > > > Dom Perignon.
> > > > Durand Crystal.
> > > > Elle Magazine.
> > > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > > Evian.
> > > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > > George Magazine.
> > > > Givenchy.
> > > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > > Hennessy.
> > > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > > Lancome.
> > > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > > Marie Claire.
> > > > Martel Cognac.
> > > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > > Moet (champagne).
> > > > Motel 6.
> > > > Motown Records.
> > > > MP3.com.
> > > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > > Nivea.
> > > > Normany Butter.
> > > > Parents Magazine.
> > > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > > RCA.
> > > > Red Magazine.
> > > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > > Royal Canadian.
> > > > Salomon (skis).
> > > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > > Smart & Final.
> > > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > > Sundance Channel.
> > > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > > Technicolor.
> > > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > > Total gas stations.
> > > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > > Uniroyal.
> > > > Universal Studios.
> > > > USFilter.
> > > > Veritas Group.
> > > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > > Vittel.
> > > > Vivendi.
> > > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > > Yoplait.
> > > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > > >
> > >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82303 From: John Long <cbrxxx_00@y...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:20pm
Subject: CV driveshaft questions
I need some info help. I am getting a CV driveshaft for my TJ, and I
am trying to find the best place in town that has the best prices and
also the length I shold get and any other info that I might need. This
is what I got for mods and such That might change some advice:
03' TJ - Rubicon (don't flame me on that one)
Auto
4.5" RE 7000 lift
Now I haven't put on a BB or MM lift yet, but I will (as I will be
raising the tranny mount also to help on clearence probs. So the
biggest question I got is the length??? Will the stock length work or
do I need a longer one made?
Thanks,
John Long
82304 From: tj_angel_113 <angel_113_@h...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:43pm
Subject: Re: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Did you check your tranny mounts and your xfer case linkage?
Angel
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
> Wade,
>
> If you want to bring it over, I'd be happy to take a look at it
and see if
> we can find the problem. I live in Mesa.
>
> Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:06 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some
insite...]
>
>
> Well everybody,
>
> I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked the
> brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both on
straight
> and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look pretty bad
but I'm
> almost positive that's not what's causing the problem. I still
have a
> consistant clunking sound, in the front right and possibly the
front left,
> when at low speeds not braking or accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE
what's going
> on. There seems to be no rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone
know where I
> can go to a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I
basically just
> need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
fix
> it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
that
> checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone
else? TIA...I
> appreciate it.
>
> ~Wade
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
>
>
> A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling
a weird
> clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
the wheels
> turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or gas and
I only
> feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day before this
started
> happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did nothing out of
the
> ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what to look for to
find the
> culprit? TIA
>
>
>
>
>
> ~Wade
> '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
>
>
>
>
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82305 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:53pm
Subject: Re: CV driveshaft questions
If you are keeping the stock output shaft on your transfer case you
will need an adaptor plate because there is no CV drive shaft that will
fit the stock bolt pattern. I ordered a Tom Woods drive shaft and
adaptor plate from Jason at 4x4groupbuy.com. All I had to do was
measure from the center of the transfer case output shaft to the center
line of one of the u-joint saddles on the diff yoke and Tom Woods took
care of getting me the correct length. It works fine and no
vibrations. I also have a Rubicon with RE long arms, 4.5" RE springs,
1" MM, and 1" body lift.
When I called Dicks Driveline they wanted the same measurement but
could not supply the adaptor plate.
Have a good day
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John Long" <cbrxxx_00@y...> wrote:
> I need some info help. I am getting a CV driveshaft for my TJ, and I
> am trying to find the best place in town that has the best prices and
> also the length I shold get and any other info that I might need. This
> is what I got for mods and such That might change some advice:
> 03' TJ - Rubicon (don't flame me on that one)
> Auto
> 4.5" RE 7000 lift
>
> Now I haven't put on a BB or MM lift yet, but I will (as I will be
> raising the tranny mount also to help on clearence probs. So the
> biggest question I got is the length??? Will the stock length work or
> do I need a longer one made?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Long
82281 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 10:40pm
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
I may get spammed for this but I dont giva shiznick. The Germans should be boycotted too....and guess who owns JEEP.....
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Norman
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 10:29 PM
To: Mike & Karen Acuna; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT: French Companies To Boycott
My wife, Vanda, works for one of these companies. The small, privately owned business she has worked for a few years has recently been purchased by a corporation listed below. They seem to be a good company, and Vanda is real happy there. In fact, her pay has increased quite a bit since the buyout.
If everyone, or even many, were to boycott her company, she could quite possibly lose her job, or at least a good chunk of her paycheck.
I hate the French as much as the next guy, but hey, I NEED JEEP PARTS. Think about who may be losing by boycotting French companies. It just may be a red-blooded American jeeper trying to make a living.
Just my .02
Rick Norman
Got Groceries?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna [mailto:mkacuna@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT: French Companies To Boycott
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _______
I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> >
> > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car &Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it? OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> >
> > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
Saddam Hussein.
> >
> > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> >
> > Please review this list of major French companies that Americans should boycott.
> >
> > France has every right to disagree with America. But France has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they side with America, France will oppose their membership in the European Union.
> >
> > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used against American soldiers.
> >
> > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies and countries that do not stand with America.
> >
> > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> >
> > Air France.
> > Air Liquide.
> > Airbus.
> > Alcatel.
> > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's gonna hurt!
> > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest).
> > AXA Advisors.
> > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > Beneteau (boats).
> > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > Black Bush.
> > Bollinger (champagne).
> > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > Cartier. ouch!
> > Chanel.
> > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > Christian Dior.
> > Club Med (vacations).
> > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > DKNY.
> > Dom Perignon.
> > Durand Crystal.
> > Elle Magazine.
> > Essilor Optical Products.
> > Evian.
> > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > George Magazine.
> > Givenchy.
> > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > Hennessy.
> > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > Jameson (whiskey).
> > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > Lancome.
> > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > Louis Vuitton.
> > Marie Claire.
> > Martel Cognac.
> > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > Moet (champagne).
> > Motel 6.
> > Motown Records.
> > MP3.com.
> > Mumms (champagne).
> > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > Nivea.
> > Normany Butter.
> > Parents Magazine.
> > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > Pierre Cardin.
> > Playstation Magazine.
> > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > Red Magazine.
> > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > Renault (automobiles).
> > Road & Track Magazine.
> > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > Royal Canadian.
> > Salomon (skis).
> > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > Smart & Final.
> > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > Spencer Gifts.
> > Sundance Channel.
> > Taylor Made (golf).
> > Technicolor.
> > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > Total gas stations.
> > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > Uniroyal.
> > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by Vivendi-Universal).
> > USFilter.
> > Veritas Group.
> > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > Vittel.
> > Vivendi.
> > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> >
>Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
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82282 From: rustydunmire <rustydunmire@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 10:31pm
Subject: TJ flares
Anybody put TJ flares on a YJ. Looking for any tips or advice.
Rusty
rustydunmire@m...
82283 From: oveson2 <oveson.l@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:13pm
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82284 From: jcteel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:20pm
Subject: Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
Okay, I've taken the rear driveshaft off again so that I can take it
to the shop tomorrow to get it converted to a CV. I've drove it a
little more now in FWD and it does okay and it is certainly driveable
but does act strange. Sometimes it wants to pull a little bit but
actually it mostly seems to want to fight me turning. In other words
it likes to continue in the current direction whether that be
straight or turning. Also I can literally feel the front end pulling
instead of the rear end pushing (i.e. you can really tell the front
wheels are being driven and not the rear). It feels funny but you
can really tell that the front end is pulling when you accelerate and
the rear end seems to have a little lag time and you get this
floating kind of feeling. Very strange. I suspect the large tires
and lift just magnify any effects from being a FWD. All of this I'm
sure is completely normal. What's strange though is that when I turn
really sharp (only notice it during a u-turn) I hear a knocking noise
of some sort. I only noticed this once and didn't get a chance to
play with it to see what it was. And no I don't have a locker on the
front. I can't even imagine how ugly that would be to drive!
By this time tomorrow I hope to be vibration free. I'll be sure to
post the results because I'm taking a different route than most do to
fix the driveshaft induced vibrations. I'm installing a CV
driveshaft but without a SYE. Supposedly the kit that allows you to
mount the CV head to the existing slip-yoke output has only been out
a couple of years. I'll be interested to see if the CV alone
eliminates the vibes without reducing the driveshaft angle with the
SYE and longer driveshaft. If this works (and obviously I expect it
will) this will be a much easier fix than a SYE/CV combo (the price
is only slightly cheaper though).
Thanks,
John
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Halbert" <xj4ltr_1988@c...>
wrote:
> I'm driving my 88 xj without a rear driveshaft right now because I
am in
> need of a new yoke on my rear axle. But I'm also pulling a little
when I
> accelerate and then it pushes the other direction when I
decelerate. I
> don't take any sharp corners obviously but I haven't had any trouble
> driving 65 down the freeway with it. I just don't drive very long
> distances is all.
>
> -Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jcteel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
> Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:30 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Front-wheel drive Jeep
>
> In order to prove that the vibration problems I'm having are from
the
> angle on the rear driveshaft (I recently installed a lift) I
removed
> the rear driveshaft this weekend and drove it in 4H thus making it
a
> FWD. As I expected all abnormal vibrations were gone; however, it
> behaved very strangely and the front wanted to really pull to the
> side. I expected it to drive normally just as any front-wheel
drive
> vehicle but it didn't. I only drove it down the street and back so
I
> didn't experiment with the problem in detail. Is this normal or
> should it drive normally under these conditions? I need to remove
> the driveshaft again this week and drive it to the driveshaft shop
> and I'm sure it will be fine if I drive slow and take the curves
> carefully but I'm just curious what the problem could be. Any
> ideas? It's a 2001 TJ with a Dana 35 rear and D30 front with a 5-
spd
> trans and the stock xfer case.
>
> Thanks,
> John Teel
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
82285 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 11:26pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
I don't believe an across the board boycott is effective. I agree with the
harmless changes such as Freedom Fries, etc that get the point out that we
are upset but don't attack any particular business. But to boycott these
companies based upon what Chirac did would be unfair. I'm sure that
management of some of these firms disagree with Chirac and to harm them
would be to harm those in France that just might support us. Most businesses
are non-political in nature. Unless you have proof that one of these
companies was on the record as being against us I think this boycott is
ridiculous and at its worst may inspire new hatred towards Americans by
those same people that currently may support us.
Besides, Michelin makes some damn nice tires and happen to be my favorite
for daily driven vehicles. (Of course I'm keeping the Goodyear MTR's on the
Jeep). Should we all run out and put on some Firestones instead? LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: oveson2 [mailto:oveson.l@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:13 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising). RCA
> > > (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics). Red
> > > Magazine. Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake). Yves
> > > Saint Laurent. Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
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82286 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 8, 2003 8:13pm
Subject: Re: TJ flares
Here is a nice "how to" article on the web about this conversion
http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/body/tj_flares_yj/
Mike
82287 From: Larry Greene <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 4:56am
Subject: Re: Re: Anyone tried to get 37" BFG Krawler T/A yet?
That's still to rich for me. I'm thinking $280.00 per tire at most is all I want
to pay. :-)
Larry
RICK BEER wrote:
> I can mount & balance the 37-1250r17 Krawlers for 410.00 each
> the 35-1350r15 will run 350.00 installed plus certs.
> last I checked on the MTR's they are still up there in price give it a while
> ALL these will come down in price
> THANKS RICK BEER
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:06 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Anyone tried to get 37" BFG Krawler T/A yet?
>
> > Follow up to my original post and topic:
> >
> > I see that 4Wheel Parts is advertising the BFG 37x12.50.17 Krawlers
> > at $410.00 each (big delta between that and what Discount is selling
> > them for). Also 4Wheel Parts shows 37x12.50x17 GY MTRs at $234.00!
> > Big drop from when they first hit the market.
> > Anyone find a lower price than $410.00 for the BFGs?
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...> wrote:
> > > I just stopped by Discount Tire to see if they had these yet and
> > their
> > > list price is $475.00 (thereabouts) per tire! (although they said
> > they
> > > would match any price including internet). It looks like they are
> > > going the way of the GY MTRs ... will have to wait a year to get
> > down
> > > to $250 or so. Anyone else get a price yet?
> > >
> > > Larry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
82288 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:01am
Subject: RE: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Wade,
If you want to bring it over, I'd be happy to take a look at it and see if we can find the problem. I live in Mesa.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:06 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Well everybody,
I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and checked the brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both on straight and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look pretty bad but I'm almost positive that's not what's causing the problem. I still have a consistant clunking sound, in the front right and possibly the front left, when at low speeds not braking or accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE what's going on. There seems to be no rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone know where I can go to a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I basically just need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to fix it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get that checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone else? TIA...I appreciate it.
~Wade
-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling a weird clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with the wheels turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or gas and I only feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day before this started happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did nothing out of the ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what to look for to find the culprit? TIA
~Wade
'97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
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82289 From: Mark Maloy <mdmaloy@m...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 6:58pm
Subject: Your concern for fellow club members
Although I have been a member for about a year, I have subscribed to the mailing list for about a week. This is my first posting to the group. I am simply OVERWHELMED by the concern that has been shown to fellow members of the club, particularly to help Kyle with his shredded D35. I am proud to associate myself with you and look forward to meeting you at a future trail run.
Also, a big public thanks to Rick Beer for helping me with my MT/R's. If you need tires, he is the guy to see.
Kind regards,
Mark Maloy
82290 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:59am
Subject: Re: Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
John,
Regardless of how (or where) the CV mounts, the driveline angles, still,
must be corrected.. The driveshaft is going to be shorter than it currently
is, when you get the CV work done. You'll still have to rotate the pinion at
the rear diff to get all the angle at the CV joint.. Whether the cam bolts
will offer enough adjustment for that or not, I don't know. Keep everyone
informed.
Also a lot of the weird driving quirks that you're experiencing, with only
the front driveshaft, is due to the wider tires and the change in
backspacing that has altered the Ackerman Angle and the scrub radius.. These
are both really important for turning..
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "jcteel" <jcteel1@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Front-wheel drive Jeep
> Okay, I've taken the rear driveshaft off again so that I can take it
> to the shop tomorrow to get it converted to a CV. I've drove it a
> little more now in FWD and it does okay and it is certainly driveable
> but does act strange. Sometimes it wants to pull a little bit but
> actually it mostly seems to want to fight me turning. In other words
> it likes to continue in the current direction whether that be
> straight or turning. Also I can literally feel the front end pulling
> instead of the rear end pushing (i.e. you can really tell the front
> wheels are being driven and not the rear). It feels funny but you
> can really tell that the front end is pulling when you accelerate and
> the rear end seems to have a little lag time and you get this
> floating kind of feeling. Very strange. I suspect the large tires
> and lift just magnify any effects from being a FWD. All of this I'm
> sure is completely normal. What's strange though is that when I turn
> really sharp (only notice it during a u-turn) I hear a knocking noise
> of some sort. I only noticed this once and didn't get a chance to
> play with it to see what it was. And no I don't have a locker on the
> front. I can't even imagine how ugly that would be to drive!
>
> By this time tomorrow I hope to be vibration free. I'll be sure to
> post the results because I'm taking a different route than most do to
> fix the driveshaft induced vibrations. I'm installing a CV
> driveshaft but without a SYE. Supposedly the kit that allows you to
> mount the CV head to the existing slip-yoke output has only been out
> a couple of years. I'll be interested to see if the CV alone
> eliminates the vibes without reducing the driveshaft angle with the
> SYE and longer driveshaft. If this works (and obviously I expect it
> will) this will be a much easier fix than a SYE/CV combo (the price
> is only slightly cheaper though).
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Timothy Halbert" <xj4ltr_1988@c...>
> wrote:
> > I'm driving my 88 xj without a rear driveshaft right now because I
> am in
> > need of a new yoke on my rear axle. But I'm also pulling a little
> when I
> > accelerate and then it pushes the other direction when I
> decelerate. I
> > don't take any sharp corners obviously but I haven't had any trouble
> > driving 65 down the freeway with it. I just don't drive very long
> > distances is all.
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jcteel [mailto:jcteel1@e...]
> > Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:30 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Front-wheel drive Jeep
> >
> > In order to prove that the vibration problems I'm having are from
> the
> > angle on the rear driveshaft (I recently installed a lift) I
> removed
> > the rear driveshaft this weekend and drove it in 4H thus making it
> a
> > FWD. As I expected all abnormal vibrations were gone; however, it
> > behaved very strangely and the front wanted to really pull to the
> > side. I expected it to drive normally just as any front-wheel
> drive
> > vehicle but it didn't. I only drove it down the street and back so
> I
> > didn't experiment with the problem in detail. Is this normal or
> > should it drive normally under these conditions? I need to remove
> > the driveshaft again this week and drive it to the driveshaft shop
> > and I'm sure it will be fine if I drive slow and take the curves
> > carefully but I'm just curious what the problem could be. Any
> > ideas? It's a 2001 TJ with a Dana 35 rear and D30 front with a 5-
> spd
> > trans and the stock xfer case.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John Teel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
82291 From: Montgomery, David <dmontgomery@s...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Used Grand Cherokee
Hi Mike,
Until recently, I owned a 1996 Grand Cherokee since new an put 145K miles on it (well, the ex put the first 87K - but I maintained it!). It is a V8 Laredo 4x4. I also owned an early XJ Cherokee for many years prior to the Grand. I would still own it if the Ex had not gotten it!
With this in mind I would recommend a '96 or newer Grand Cherokee- they went to 4wheel disc brakes, a bigger rear axle for the V8 (318cubic inch - 5.2 liter) The rear axle is an aluminum center section version of the Dana 44 - some folks had trouble with these.
The problems I had were few - the factory battery died at about 2 years. The Water pump went out at about 90K at which time I noticed the radiator was also leaking and it was replaced. I had the overheating problem discussed on the list lately and a new fan clutch fixed that at about 110K. Of course the brakes were done about every 50K. The only time it stranded me on the road was when the cast pot metal power steering bracket broke - it appeared that one of three bolts that held it to the engine had broken earlier - the $20 replacement was in stock at the dealer! I did change the oil every 3-5K miles and changed the other fluids at reasonable intervals. The track bar needed replacement after the lift had been in place for a couple years - $60 from AutoZone).
My favorite would be a 1998 5.9 limited. More power, loaded, 16" wheels, factory louvers on the hood!
There seem to be quite a few on the used market - I would think there would be several affordable choices out there.
Feel free to email if I can help answer any questions or give any more opinions!:
Best Regards,
Dave Montgomery
dmontgomery@sjm.com
Message: 19
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 03:40:05 -0000
From: "cj5gpinn"
Subject: Advice on buying a used Grand Cherokee
Hi All,
Well unfortunately the wife was involved in a car accident, not her
fault, and our Civic was totaled. So we are looking to moving up and
get a used Grand Cherokee. I was hoping for some input. Having only
owned CJs I am not familiar with the common problems one might look
for when buying a used Grand Cherokee. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Mike
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82292 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 7:56am
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
So Kyle...what's the latest scoop?
Will the axle that Steve offered work out for you?
And to put some prices in perspective (basically I agree with Stu), let's say you wanted to buy a cheap axle (like mine!) for $100. Sure, it's complete and ready to bolt in...to a YJ...with 4.10 gears. If you want to stick with 3.73 gears, you'll spend $150 for new ring/pinion, $75 or so for install kit and $150 for install labor. I still don't know what you drive, but if you don't have a YJ, you'll need to weld on the spring buckets and control arm mounts.
If you do have a YJ, my axle might be a good deal. You can get those 3.73's off the list for $30. My install hardware (bearings, seals and whatnot) only had a few runs on it, so you may not need to buy anything as long as the gear installer thinks they can get the pinion bearing off without damaging it or the seal (many times it's easier to just cut it in half with a grinder to remove, but is not always necessary) . Randy Siade is the best person to answer gearing issues on here, it seems.
Anyway, let me know if you need anything...even if it just turns out to be some "elbow grease". When are you planning on working on this thing?
Last thing, I got one of those t-case plugs from a tranny shop a while ago. Walked in and asked where they get them, and they just gave me one. Unfortunately, it's long been lost...
Tom
work: 480-898-2621
cell: 480-861-4502
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 18:37:08 -0700
From: "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...>
Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!
I just got the cover off and its completely shredded. The gears and the carrier.
Anyone have any ides for a cheap (read free or payment plan) ideas?
Kyle
82293 From: Kyle Hagan <kyle@u...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:39am
Subject: PLEASE HELP MY JEEP!!(Getting the parts today)
Thanks to Steve and Rose Slifer I will be getting a complete axle today. And thanks to Ken U for being able to deliver it.
I will be getting it today. So any of you that would help me put it in today let me know.
The Jeep community is a great bunch of people. Its really amazing what people will do for eash other.
Kyle
82294 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
from?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> Nick
82295 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
The changed the design of the 231 for the TJ's, adding a seal to the rear
output.. The YJ's did *not* have this seal, and would leak if the rear
driveshaft was removed.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
> I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
> a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
> driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
> part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
> from?
>
> Chris
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> > Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
> rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
> the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
> be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
> and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
> similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> > Nick
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
82296 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
The part at the top about the magazines is mostly true...
http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/magazine.php
Here's some info on the list...
http://www.metrospy.com/boycott_brands.htm
I haven't checked every one, but it seems to be at least mostly true. It is also certainly worth considering that many of these "French" companies employ many Americans, Arizonians, and AZ_VJC members even...
At 06:13 AM 4/9/2003 +0000, oveson2 wrote:
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike & Karen Acuna"
wrote:
>
>
__________________________________________________ ____________________
_____________________________________
Cute....but is it all true, has it been researched to verify the
facts as stated or just more spam which has been circulating in
abundance lately about the war in Iraqi, the French and on and on.
Some are for, some are against. Anyone can type up something that may
look credible, but is it? It may be written by someone who has
nothing better to do with their time than to express their personnel
opinions however distorted, prejudiced, and misinformed it may be.
This particular message is not even signed by any author, let alone a
credible person or organization which might lend some credence to its
contents. And even if it was signed by a credible source, that also
could be done by anyone. Just because someone writes a message does
not make it true. Especially on the internet because its free, easy
to do, and generally anonymous. I am not taking a shot at you Mike,
as I believe you probably just received it and forward it like most
everyone does.
> I never knew a lot of these companies were not American
>
> BETCHA DIDN'T KNOW THIS
> > >
> > > Ever heard of Lagardere SCA? No? Well maybe because it's a
French company. OK .. have you ever heard of Hachette Filipacchi
Media U.S.? Probably not, but Hachette Filipacchi publishes some
magazines you may have heard of. Those magazines would be Elle, Car
&Driver, Women's Day and others. Now it's getting familiar, isn't it?
OK, so we have Car &Driver which is published by Hachette Filipacchi
which is owned by Lagardere SCA which is a French Corporation.
> > >
> > > So .. are we finished here? No, not quite. It seems that a man
who has been in the news quite a bit of late owns around two percent
of Lagardere SCA. About $90 million dollars worth. His name?
>
> Saddam Hussein.
> > >
> > > Join the "Boycott France" Campaign
> > >
> > > Please review this list of major French companies that
Americans should boycott.
> > >
> > > France has every right to disagree with America. But France
has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America.
French President Chirac warned East European nations that if they
side with America, France will oppose their membership in the
European Union.
> > >
> > > This week, William Safire reported in the New York Times that
France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq -- and has been helping
Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may soon be used
against American soldiers.
> > >
> > > Just as France is exercising its right to disagree, Americans
can exercise their right to boycott -- and avoid helping companies
and countries that do not stand with America.
> > >
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication). OOOOH BOY!!!!! This one's
gonna hurt!
> > > Aqualung (including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and
SeaQuest).
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil
fields -- guess why they don't want us in there).
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA (televisions and electronics; owned by Thomson Electronics).
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks (owned by
Vivendi-Universal).
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50 percent stake).
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82297 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 9:00am
Subject: RE: Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
It will leak from the rear output. I have pulled mine a few times and it
leaks profusely. There is a seal that keeps the fluid in right near the
edge of case. This is how the slip part keep lubricated.
If the rear drive shaft output on the transfer case did not leak for you
it is probably because your transfer case is empty of fluid already.
:o
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: he hates his jeep.... (Leak from where???)
I pulled my rear driveshaft to get home on my 97 TJ, I did not leak
a drop out driving home off the trail all the way home. Since the
driveshaft just slips over the end and does not actually go into any
part of the transfer case can someone tell me where it would leak
from?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kyle Hagan" <kyle@u...> wrote:
> Hey all, this is Nick, I'm at Kyle's right now checking out his
rig. Anyone happen to have one of those plastic cap you stick into
the back of the xfer case to stop the oil from draining? It might
be his only option at the moment to pull out the rear drive shaft
and cruise around in front wheel drive. Or, if anyone else has a
similiar suggestion to stop the oil from pouring out....
> Nick
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
82298 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 9:35am
Subject: [OT] M1911A1 Pistol Raffle
I've got raffle tickets for a NEW Reproduction of the beloved WWII US
Army pistol, the M1911A1, Cal .45, with two magizines. Need not be
present to win. This is from the Phoenix "Valley-of-the-Sun" Chapter
82nd Airborne Division Association that I am a member of.
2nd Prize-$300
3rd Prize-$250
4th Prize-$200
5th Prize-$150
6 Tickets for $5
Drawing to be held on National Airborne Day, 16 August 2003.
Contact Jeff Trujillo 480-213-1976 cell or 480-649-5588 home.
82299 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 10:53am
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
Ok, I'll bite:
Hmmm...
"Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
;-)
-Roger
--- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
>
> I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> companies...........it is more for information and
> to make you go hmmm?
>
> > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > >
> > > Air France.
> > > Air Liquide.
> > > Airbus.
> > > Alcatel.
> > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > Aqualung.
> > > AXA Advisors.
> > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > Black Bush.
> > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > Chanel.
> > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > Christian Dior.
> > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > DKNY.
> > > Dom Perignon.
> > > Durand Crystal.
> > > Elle Magazine.
> > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > Evian.
> > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > George Magazine.
> > > Givenchy.
> > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > Hennessy.
> > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > Lancome.
> > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > Marie Claire.
> > > Martel Cognac.
> > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > Moet (champagne).
> > > Motel 6.
> > > Motown Records.
> > > MP3.com.
> > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > Nivea.
> > > Normany Butter.
> > > Parents Magazine.
> > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > RCA.
> > > Red Magazine.
> > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > Royal Canadian.
> > > Salomon (skis).
> > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > Smart & Final.
> > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > Sundance Channel.
> > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > Technicolor.
> > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > Total gas stations.
> > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > Uniroyal.
> > > Universal Studios.
> > > USFilter.
> > > Veritas Group.
> > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > Vittel.
> > > Vivendi.
> > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > Yoplait.
> > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > >
> >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82300 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 10:52am
Subject: Re: TJ flares
I put some on my YJ. Assuming you will be trimming metal, here's my
tips:
Rear: Start trimming at the back of the rear fender opening and work
your way forward. You should be able to take off about 3" at the
rear and then will taper down to zero about two thirds of the way
forward. That's the point where you reach the front side of the
fender well and there isn't really any metal to trim there or else
you'll open up the passenger compartment. You should be able to
retain the lip of the flare itself. Some people trim the lip off the
flare but then it looks like a "hack" job. Keeping the lip on the
flare makes it look "factory" (if you care about that).
Note that as you trim the metal along the rear side of the rear
fender opening, you will encounter a vertical support panel that runs
between the inner fender well wall and the outer panel that you're
trimming. You'll need to trim through that and then trim off the
part that extends lower than what you've trimmed off.
Also, there is a plastic liner that sits under the rear corners and
folds up into the fender well where it is attached with some of those
plastic push-in connectors. Many people trim this off at the point
where the metal was trimmed. I trimmed mine slightly but left enough
extra in place that I could fold it up and reattached it using new
holes I drilled for those plastic connectors. This also creates a
more "finished" look and it protects the fuel filler hose on the
driver's side.
Front: You will be able to trim off no more than one inch of metal
along the rear and top side of the fender opening. At the bend where
the fender meets the front cap, I chose to trim the flare lip and
leave the metal lip intact to help maintain structural rigity of the
front part of the fender and front cap. Otherwise, I left the lip on
the flare to create a more "factory" appearance.
I'd be happy to show you my Jeep if you want to meet me somewhere. I
live in northwest Phoenix (39th Ave and Happy Valley Rd).
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rustydunmire" <rustydunmire@m...>
wrote:
> Anybody put TJ flares on a YJ. Looking for any tips or advice.
>
> Rusty
>
> rustydunmire@m...
82301 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 11:03am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
The only Black Bush I know bites back...
Bushmill's Black Bush Irish Whiskey.
At 05:53 PM 4/9/2003 +0000, tomas2691 wrote:
>Ok, I'll bite:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> "Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
>
> ;-)
>
>-Roger
>
>--- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> > companies...........it is more for information and
> > to make you go hmmm?
> >
> > > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > > >
> > > > Air France.
> > > > Air Liquide.
> > > > Airbus.
> > > > Alcatel.
> > > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > > Aqualung.
> > > > AXA Advisors.
> > > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > > Black Bush.
> > > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > > Chanel.
> > > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > > Christian Dior.
> > > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > > DKNY.
> > > > Dom Perignon.
> > > > Durand Crystal.
> > > > Elle Magazine.
> > > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > > Evian.
> > > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > > George Magazine.
> > > > Givenchy.
> > > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > > Hennessy.
> > > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > > Lancome.
> > > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > > Marie Claire.
> > > > Martel Cognac.
> > > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > > Moet (champagne).
> > > > Motel 6.
> > > > Motown Records.
> > > > MP3.com.
> > > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > > Nivea.
> > > > Normany Butter.
> > > > Parents Magazine.
> > > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > > RCA.
> > > > Red Magazine.
> > > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > > Royal Canadian.
> > > > Salomon (skis).
> > > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > > Smart & Final.
> > > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > > Sundance Channel.
> > > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > > Technicolor.
> > > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > > Total gas stations.
> > > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > > Uniroyal.
> > > > Universal Studios.
> > > > USFilter.
> > > > Veritas Group.
> > > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > > Vittel.
> > > > Vivendi.
> > > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > > Yoplait.
> > > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > > >
> > >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82302 From: Frank BadAZXJ <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 11:19am
Subject: Re: OT: French Companies To Boycott
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Ok, I'll bite:
>
> Hmmm...
>
> "Black Bush" sounds like a porno mag.
>
> ;-)
>
> -Roger
>
> --- "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not expecting everyone to boycott all these
> > companies...........it is more for information and
> > to make you go hmmm?
> >
> > > > French Products and Companies to Boycott:
> > > >
> > > > Air France.
> > > > Air Liquide.
> > > > Airbus.
> > > > Alcatel.
> > > > Allegra (allergy medication).
> > > > Aqualung.
> > > > AXA Advisors.
> > > > Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas).
> > > > Beneteau (boats).
> > > > BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin).
> > > > BIC (razors, pens and lighters).
> > > > Biotherm (cosmetics).
> > > > Black Bush.
> > > > Bollinger (champagne).
> > > > Car & Driver Magazine.
> > > > Cartier. ouch!
> > > > Chanel.
> > > > Chivas Regal(scotch).
> > > > Christian Dior.
> > > > Club Med (vacations).
> > > > Culligan (owned by Vivendi).
> > > > Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods).
> > > > DKNY.
> > > > Dom Perignon.
> > > > Durand Crystal.
> > > > Elle Magazine.
> > > > Essilor Optical Products.
> > > > Evian.
> > > > Fina gas stations and Fina Oil.
> > > > First Hawaiian Bank.
> > > > George Magazine.
> > > > Givenchy.
> > > > Glenlivet (scotch).
> > > > Hennessy.
> > > > Houghton Mifflin (books).
> > > > Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989).
> > > > Jameson (whiskey).
> > > > Jerry Springer (talk show) SHOULDA KNOWN!
> > > > Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers).
> > > > Lancome.
> > > > Le Creuset (cookware).
> > > > L'Oreal (health and beauty products).
> > > > Louis Vuitton.
> > > > Marie Claire.
> > > > Martel Cognac.
> > > > Maybelline. Mom - stop buying that mascara!
> > > > Méphisto (shoes and clothes).
> > > > Michelin (tires and auto parts).
> > > > Mikasa (crystal and glass).
> > > > Moet (champagne).
> > > > Motel 6.
> > > > Motown Records.
> > > > MP3.com.
> > > > Mumms (champagne).
> > > > Nissan (cars; majority owned by Renault).
> > > > Nivea.
> > > > Normany Butter.
> > > > Parents Magazine.
> > > > Peugeot (automobiles).
> > > > Pierre Cardin.
> > > > Playstation Magazine.
> > > > ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics, France).
> > > > Publicis Group (including Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising).
> > > > RCA.
> > > > Red Magazine.
> > > > Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France).
> > > > Renault (automobiles).
> > > > Road & Track Magazine.
> > > > Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France).
> > > > Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffee makers, etc.).
> > > > Royal Canadian.
> > > > Salomon (skis).
> > > > Sierra Software and Computer Games.
> > > > Smart & Final.
> > > > Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor).
> > > > Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone).
> > > > Spencer Gifts.
> > > > Sundance Channel.
> > > > Taylor Made (golf).
> > > > Technicolor.
> > > > T-Fal (kitchenware).
> > > > Total gas stations.
> > > > UbiSoft (computer games).
> > > > Uniroyal.
> > > > Universal Studios.
> > > > USFilter.
> > > > Veritas Group.
> > > > Veuve Clicquot Champagne.
> > > > Vittel.
> > > > Vivendi.
> > > > Wild Turkey (bourbon).
> > > > Woman's Day Magazine.
> > > > Yoplait.
> > > > Yves Saint Laurent.
> > > > Zodiac Inflatable Boats.
> > > >
> > >Send a message to France that will not be forgotten!
82303 From: John Long <cbrxxx_00@y...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:20pm
Subject: CV driveshaft questions
I need some info help. I am getting a CV driveshaft for my TJ, and I
am trying to find the best place in town that has the best prices and
also the length I shold get and any other info that I might need. This
is what I got for mods and such That might change some advice:
03' TJ - Rubicon (don't flame me on that one)
Auto
4.5" RE 7000 lift
Now I haven't put on a BB or MM lift yet, but I will (as I will be
raising the tranny mount also to help on clearence probs. So the
biggest question I got is the length??? Will the stock length work or
do I need a longer one made?
Thanks,
John Long
82304 From: tj_angel_113 <angel_113_@h...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:43pm
Subject: Re: Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some insite...]
Did you check your tranny mounts and your xfer case linkage?
Angel
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
> Wade,
>
> If you want to bring it over, I'd be happy to take a look at it
and see if
> we can find the problem. I live in Mesa.
>
> Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 7:06 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Still clunking [WAS: Again, I need some
insite...]
>
>
> Well everybody,
>
> I took your advice and I stripped the front tires off and
checked the
> brake pads...nothing abnormal. Made sure the tires were both on
straight
> and the lugs were tight. My control arm bushings look pretty bad
but I'm
> almost positive that's not what's causing the problem. I still
have a
> consistant clunking sound, in the front right and possibly the
front left,
> when at low speeds not braking or accelerating. I HAVE NO CLUE
what's going
> on. There seems to be no rubbing of any parts. HELP! Anyone
know where I
> can go to a "trusting" mechanic to have them check it out. I
basically just
> need to find out what the problem is and then I should be able to
fix
> it...hopefully. My Jeep's also idling VERY hard so I want to get
that
> checked out as well. Duffy, do you do mechanic work? Anyone
else? TIA...I
> appreciate it.
>
> ~Wade
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Ungaro [mailto:swaders7@y...]
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 4:34 PM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Again, I need some insite...
>
>
> A few days ago I noticed while idling I was hearing/feeling
a weird
> clunk I think in the front. The sound/feeling is consistant with
the wheels
> turning. This does not happen when I apply the brakes or gas and
I only
> feel/hear it when going less than 10 mph. The day before this
started
> happening I replaced my front brake pads, but I did nothing out of
the
> ordinary. Any ideas what this might be or what to look for to
find the
> culprit? TIA
>
>
>
>
>
> ~Wade
> '97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
>
>
>
>
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82305 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Apr 9, 2003 0:53pm
Subject: Re: CV driveshaft questions
If you are keeping the stock output shaft on your transfer case you
will need an adaptor plate because there is no CV drive shaft that will
fit the stock bolt pattern. I ordered a Tom Woods drive shaft and
adaptor plate from Jason at 4x4groupbuy.com. All I had to do was
measure from the center of the transfer case output shaft to the center
line of one of the u-joint saddles on the diff yoke and Tom Woods took
care of getting me the correct length. It works fine and no
vibrations. I also have a Rubicon with RE long arms, 4.5" RE springs,
1" MM, and 1" body lift.
When I called Dicks Driveline they wanted the same measurement but
could not supply the adaptor plate.
Have a good day
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John Long" <cbrxxx_00@y...> wrote:
> I need some info help. I am getting a CV driveshaft for my TJ, and I
> am trying to find the best place in town that has the best prices and
> also the length I shold get and any other info that I might need. This
> is what I got for mods and such That might change some advice:
> 03' TJ - Rubicon (don't flame me on that one)
> Auto
> 4.5" RE 7000 lift
>
> Now I haven't put on a BB or MM lift yet, but I will (as I will be
> raising the tranny mount also to help on clearence probs. So the
> biggest question I got is the length??? Will the stock length work or
> do I need a longer one made?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Long