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Henthorn
08-26-2008, 08:29 AM
Anyone hear about what he said on air? What a F--ing a sshole. I hope he gets canned for this!.... I would hate to be him right now if he gets pulled over on a 'traffic stop'.

Looks like both McDonalds and Casino AZ have pulled their advertizing/money out of the radio station broadcasting.

Also Bruce Jacobs feels like he doesnt have to appologize, let alone answer for any of his words.



____NEW_____

Ok so. I like playing the devils advocate and in this case it kinda helped (well before everything started to get off topic)

I just started a new semester at Park University last week. The Professor wanted us to do some simple research on the first amendment, and low and behold this hits the news.

Basically I thought "Hey, I wonder if I state an opinion on this--is anybody going to post that Jacobs has the right to say whatever he wants on air, even though the public woulndt neccessarily agree."
Which one person did.

--I also wanted to see if anyone would comment on the police reaction about trying to have him give a Written public appology, and then a public appearance --which nobody did.

I tried to steer the thread back to "what he said" type of thing, but it kept getting back off track to the entire amnesty thing---which I should have expected as it was the underlying topic of discussion (my bad).

In short: should have done a little bit more to steer it back to a "what he said, and his right to say it in a public forum"

Sorry for any confusion, and thanks for the help!

azscout
08-26-2008, 09:19 AM
Did you actually hear what he said or did you just read it in the newspaper that has a REAL hard time reporting anything correctly? If you didn't hear it first hand, you really should do your homework and find out the truth.

Neno
08-26-2008, 09:25 AM
Did you actually hear what he said or did you just read it in the newspaper that has a REAL hard time reporting anything correctly? If you didn't hear it first hand, you really should do your homework and find out the truth.

He was actually interviewed on 3tv yesterday. I agree with the original post on here. He is a dirt bag. I am totally against amnesty let me just say that. What pissed me off with him is how much he disrespected the widow of the cop who died. I hope he gets fired. He is just as bad as Don Imus.

Henthorn
08-26-2008, 10:10 AM
Did you actually hear what he said or did you just read it in the newspaper that has a REAL hard time reporting anything correctly? If you didn't hear it first hand, you really should do your homework and find out the truth.


Yeah, maybe I should...:aagh:


Oh my god.... I read the newspaper... and watch the News... oh and listen to the recording of the show... I must have my facts wrong..:aagh:

Maybe the entire police department that was interviewed should do the same... right???


--You're new here so Im going to give you a break. Just a warning though: coming in here like that may label yourself as a troll... and you're not a troll are you??...

...he's worse than Imus... Imus didnt really know what the hell he was doing..

Bruce jacobs did and directly attacked the widow..

azscout
08-26-2008, 10:21 AM
Just because I have a different opinion then you makes me a troll? Maybe you should think about what you just said. All I said is look into a subject before you attack someone else, but that seams to be your M.O. I guess we must all agree with you or be subjected to "warnings" and name calling by you. I actually listened to the show last Thursday and didn't get the same view as you did from a couple of snippets of the show and a VERY bias report form the newspaper. It's to bad you have to take the usual liberal tactics of attacking anyone that doesn't agree with or challenges you opinion.

SavageSun4x4
08-26-2008, 10:22 AM
I am trying to sort out the story:

1) Police officer is shot and killed by ILLEGAL Immigrant.

2) His widow is now on a crusade to give amnesty to Illegals

3) I heard the police attack the DJ on his comments.

4) It appeared the DJ said or words to this effect that the widow was off base in her support of amnesty

For now at least I am siding with the DJ. I too think she is being used as a pawn...that said I do not know all of the facts or what else the DJ might have said.


While I could easily agree the DJ might have said something out of line, albeit I don't know or have not heard what he said. In my mind all else aside I have to ask this question.
Does the widow think that her husband being shot and killed by an Illegal with amnesty would make things better?

Howyadoin
08-26-2008, 10:23 AM
Hijack...anybody have a link? I rarely pay attention to local news, but would love to hear this.

Henthorn
08-26-2008, 10:38 AM
http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7287156&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Im not for amnesty...

My main gripe here is not about what was said about amnesty etc.. my gripe is with the disrespect the DJ is showing for a fallen officer and his wife, or simply put: the way and words that he decided to use.

--good to see that im not alone in this: that station has lost a lot of money with McDonalds pulling their support and Casino Arizona gone as well...

Henthorn
08-26-2008, 10:45 AM
Just because I have a different opinion then you makes me a troll? Maybe you should think about what you just said. All I said is look into a subject before you attack someone else, but that seams to be your M.O. I guess we must all agree with you or be subjected to "warnings" and name calling by you. I actually listened to the show last Thursday and didn't get the same view as you did from a couple of snippets of the show and a VERY bias report form the newspaper. It's to bad you have to take the usual liberal tactics of attacking anyone that doesn't agree with or challenges you opinion.



"Just because I have a different opinion then you makes me a troll?"

No it doesnt at all, matter of fact im glad you do have a different opinion--makes for an interesting conversation. However, it's the way you said it... Maybe a little bit of tact instead of directly attacking someone next time?

offroadaz
08-26-2008, 10:47 AM
whos bruce jacobs

azscout
08-26-2008, 10:49 AM
My post wasn't an attack, it was a question. The reason I asked it is that most people will hear a 5 second byte from the t.v. and base a whole opinion on that. I just wanted to know what yours was based on.

Henthorn
08-26-2008, 11:07 AM
MIne was based on the 5 second byte and the above sources. I may have made it unclear what my original bashing was based on: Not on the subject of amnesty, but rather the way he said things and what was said to the widow.

LJYJ
08-26-2008, 01:53 PM
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How long have you been a member on here azscout?
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Henthorn
08-26-2008, 02:04 PM
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How long have you been a member on here azscout?
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:aagh:
:pinch:

azscout
08-26-2008, 02:09 PM
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How long have you been a member on here azscout?
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A month longer than you.

LJYJ
08-26-2008, 02:12 PM
A month longer than you.

:aagh: I guess you didnt get the point! :mickey:

azscout
08-26-2008, 02:14 PM
I guess not. What is your point?

BushDawg
08-26-2008, 02:20 PM
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LJYJ
08-26-2008, 02:28 PM
I guess not. What is your point?

That with only 12 post's in the past 4-5 months most of them have been borderline rude and argumentive and somewhat disrespectful!

:aagh: and I dont know. Something else just irritates me about your post's.

Cant put my finger on it but you kinda remind me of someone else!

Stickbuddy
08-26-2008, 02:30 PM
I normally agree with alot of you I see on this post but in this case I can't. A LEO gets murdered by an illegal and now his wife goes to D.C. to agrue for comprehensive amnesty !!!???
Sorry, just don't see it. I think she is wrong and is making a mockery of his death. Adding insult to injury, so to speak. Sounds like the DJ just vented his frustration on her for actions of treason against her husband.
I would like to think I'm hearing it wrong but she is fighting for the same people, who one of, killed her husband. Makes no sense.
As for the Cops.....well, I'm not really surprised and that is a whole different issue.
Guess we just don't agree on this one. Bottom line from me is:
Sad that a man died, worse it was by an illegal
Bad that the wife wants amnesty for illegals
DJ has as much right to speak as the rest.

X2

SavageSun4x4
08-26-2008, 02:37 PM
X2

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In my mind its as if she is saying that giving amnesty would make a difference somehow...just don't see it.

In fact amnesty is only condoning the murder and bringing more murders into our society.

I am open to have my mind changed on this but at this time I can't the why the wife is doing this. Sounds like she want to REWARD the guy that murdered her husband...insane thinking.

azscout
08-26-2008, 02:39 PM
That with only 12 post's in the past 4-5 months most of them have been borderline rude and argumentive and somewhat disrespectful!

:aagh: and I dont know. Something else just irritates me about your post's.

Cant put my finger on it but you kinda remind me of someone else!

I think you should check my previous posts again. Until I asked a question on this thread I haven't had a problem with anyone. I don't know who you are referring to when you say I remind you of someone else so why don't you just say what you mean. I'm sure there has been posts by you (including your last 2 to me) that would be considered borderline rude and argumentative so does that mean you don't have a right to say it? I don't think so. Unless you make improper personal attacks, I'll be happy to hear anyone's opinion.

AZLugz
08-26-2008, 02:51 PM
I agree with BushDawg

As for Scout, I don't see that he made an attack and to call for a ban, even joking is a little much......thats just my opinion tho. I can see how the question could be mis-interpreted tho and a simple sorry should suffice, I don't see that it was intentional on Scouts part

LJYJ
08-26-2008, 02:53 PM
I agree with BushDawg

As for Scout, I don't see that he made an attack and to call for a ban, even joking is a little much......thats just my opinion tho. I can see how the question could be mis-interpreted tho and a simple sorry should suffice, I don't see that it was intentional on Scouts part

Sorry!. And yes I was kinda joking about the :ban:
I'm just a post hore!

AZLugz
08-26-2008, 02:58 PM
Sorry!. And yes I was kinda joking about the :ban:
I'm just a post hore!

LOL

I have seen a lot of your posts and assumed it was a joke!!!!!!

And that is Whore, not Hore.....Hore, Peter J is a Chemist in England!!!


I just wanted to play too!!

LJYJ
08-26-2008, 03:01 PM
LOL

I have seen a lot of your posts and assumed it was a joke!!!!!!

And that is Whore, not Hore.....Hore, Peter J is a Chemist in England!!!


I just wanted to play too!!
:smug:

Henthorn
08-26-2008, 03:07 PM
:D jeez....

Heaney
08-26-2008, 04:11 PM
I normally agree with alot of you I see on this post but in this case I can't. A LEO gets murdered by an illegal and now his wife goes to D.C. to agrue for comprehensive amnesty !!!???
Sorry, just don't see it. I think she is wrong and is making a mockery of his death. Adding insult to injury, so to speak. Sounds like the DJ just vented his frustration on her for actions of treason against her husband.
I would like to think I'm hearing it wrong but she is fighting for the same people, who one of, killed her husband. Makes no sense.
As for the Cops.....well, I'm not really surprised and that is a whole different issue.
Guess we just don't agree on this one. Bottom line from me is:
Sad that a man died, worse it was by an illegal
Bad that the wife wants amnesty for illegals
DJ has as much right to speak as the rest.


x4

cosninocanines
08-26-2008, 06:11 PM
I normally agree with alot of you I see on this post but in this case I can't. A LEO gets murdered by an illegal and now his wife goes to D.C. to agrue for comprehensive amnesty !!!???
Sorry, just don't see it. I think she is wrong and is making a mockery of his death. Adding insult to injury, so to speak. Sounds like the DJ just vented his frustration on her for actions of treason against her husband.
I would like to think I'm hearing it wrong but she is fighting for the same people, who one of, killed her husband. Makes no sense.
As for the Cops.....well, I'm not really surprised and that is a whole different issue.
Guess we just don't agree on this one. Bottom line from me is:
Sad that a man died, worse it was by an illegal
Bad that the wife wants amnesty for illegals
DJ has as much right to speak as the rest.

whatever x we're on I agree

djui5
08-26-2008, 07:23 PM
Sorry, just don't see it. I think she is wrong and is making a mockery of his death. Adding insult to injury, so to speak.


Yeah, this is really weird. I've seen it before and believe the woman is trying to sympathize with the assailant. This is her way of dealing with the loss by trying to make it ok somehow. Kinda like how a kidnapee takes sides with their kidnapper. The human mind is a funny thing.

It'll be a sad day when an illegal gets away with killing a cop. This country has gone to hell.

Number 7
08-26-2008, 07:51 PM
BushDawg is right on the money, and my good friend AZscout is right on the money too! George

Bilt4Comfort
08-26-2008, 08:20 PM
The widow is probably being misled by some group of ******* sympathizers. Yes, I said it. Political correctness is not my thing...deal with it.

Norm is right on the money.

rockreadyyj07
08-26-2008, 08:35 PM
i dont see how az scout attacked anyone in his post, he was asking a question

I dont think what jacobs said was all that wrong, i cant see why she wants immagration rights when one killed her husband cop or not.

And it doesnt really matter on how long hes been here and it SURE doesnt matter on post count or even his post content because there a few people (to keep more drama off the board i wont name a name) that just post the most stupid responses on threads just to pad their post count like its so cool to have a big number under your name. its so annoying when people respond with oh its raining or oh its so cool or ban him and almost Never have anything usefull to add

Steve Peterson
08-26-2008, 08:37 PM
I listen to some of Jacobs show in the morning. This morning he said that there is a link to the original broadcast that is being discussed here. The wife of the police officer is going to Washington with (recall) Mayor Gordon to address/discuss immigration reform (amnesty). Her husband would still be alive if laws were enforced. I think people should listen to the what was said so they would know the context of the remarks made before assuming...

Come on people. If you take what the news says as being fair or totally accurate.........

Number 7
08-26-2008, 08:50 PM
I listen to some of Jacobs show in the morning. This morning he said that there is a link to the original broadcast that is being discussed here. The wife of the police officer is going to Washington with (recall) Mayor Gordon to address/discuss immigration reform (amnesty). Her husband would still be alive if laws were enforced. I think people should listen to the what was said so they would know the context of the remarks made before assuming...

Come on people. If you take what the news says as being fair or totally accurate.........

Thank you Steve!!! G

JamesT
08-26-2008, 09:04 PM
Can you say Sheehan (sp?) ??

What is the difference between this widow and the above mother?

And who is "off their rocker"? Bruce or the above mentioned ladies?

A war is a war....

LJYJ
08-26-2008, 09:11 PM
i dont see how az scout attacked anyone in his post, he was asking a question

I dont think what jacobs said was all that wrong, i cant see why she wants immagration rights when one killed her husband cop or not.

And it doesnt really matter on how long hes been here and it SURE doesnt matter on post count or even his post content because there a few people (to keep more drama off the board i wont name a name) that just post the most stupid responses on threads just to pad their post count like its so cool to have a big number under your name. its so annoying when people respond with oh its raining or oh its so cool or ban him and almost Never have anything usefull to add
HUH! WoW! :pinch:

HYDMAN
08-26-2008, 09:35 PM
Bruce Jacobs often goes on rants that I do not agree with.

However, in this case I think he clearly stated that he has no beef with the widow of a dead police officer. No issue with a mother raising children by herself. His issue was with a women putting herself into the public arena on Capital Hill seeking amnesty for illegals.

If we are giving away or selling(fine) citizenship, what should the going price be?

Allen
08-26-2008, 09:46 PM
I'll just say that I think the shot cops wife has lost her mind! Pushing for amnesty on illegals is like asking the judge to let a guy that raped your daughter go free!!

A DJ has the right to say anything, as do I.... or anyone else on this subject! I listened to the show and it wasn't about disrespecting a fallen officer, but about the STUPID path his wife is now pursuing!

I am EXTREMELY against amnesty! I think if you are going to reform immigration you need to set it up so more people can immigrate to the US, but the requirements should be set higher!

must speak AND write English
must have a college degree from your country of birth!
must have an employment plan
must have a CLEAR background check

Amnesty just lets all the scum that snuck in STAY!

probable cause
08-26-2008, 11:58 PM
Yeah, maybe I should...:aagh:



--You're new here so Im going to give you a break. Just a warning though: coming in here like that may label yourself as a troll... and you're not a troll are you??...

Bruce jacobs did and directly attacked the widow..


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How long have you been a member on here azscout?
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***? what does it matter how long somebody has been here? does that make them wiser and more knowledgeable about wheeling and useless **** since they've been here longer you 2 get a big thumbs down. on those comments.

Henthorn
08-27-2008, 07:06 AM
***? what does it matter how long somebody has been here? does that make them wiser and more knowledgeable about wheeling and useless **** since they've been here longer you 2 get a big thumbs down. on those comments.

No but would you go into some forum, start talking ISHT (granted he didnt mean to in this case, it just came across as such) when you hadnt been there for more than a couple of posts?

(Oh, and what the hell does this post have to do with wheeling??)

knockonit
08-27-2008, 07:44 AM
Post count don't mean squat, I've been on sites for years and only have a dozen posts, mostly because IKIA;s (internet knowit alls) spend all their time padding their count over nothing, and creating drama.
Geez, he asked a question, pretty simple if your skin is that thin you oughta join a knitting site.
heehe:aagh:

Henthorn
08-27-2008, 08:06 AM
Post count don't mean squat, I've been on sites for years and only have a dozen posts, mostly because IKIA;s (internet knowit alls) spend all their time padding their count over nothing, and creating drama.
Geez, he asked a question, pretty simple if your skin is that thin you oughta join a knitting site.
heehe:aagh:

Ok, its getting off topic and outta hand.

More info in original post. Thanks!

89grand
08-28-2008, 06:56 PM
I back Bruce Jacobs 100%. The lady being a widow does not exempt her from any criticism, claiming "victims" are a protected species is right out of the liberals hand book.

I don't really know what her motives are, but she seems to be an idiot and doesn't even realize she's being a pawn in a-holes Gordons pro-iilegal BS.

Allen
08-28-2008, 07:05 PM
Basically I thought "Hey, I wonder if I state an opinion on this--is anybody going to post that Jacobs has the right to say whatever he wants on air, even though the public woulndt neccessarily agree."
Which one person did.

was it me??! yep!




I also wanted to see if anyone would comment on the police reaction about trying to have him give a Written public appology, and then a public appearance --which nobody did.

Was going to, but because more than a few good members here are police I thought I'd let a comment on that slide and keep the drama low!

89grand
08-28-2008, 07:11 PM
What's the point in forcing people to give apolgies?

I thought the whole idea behind an apology was that it was something one did IF they did something they later regretted. Not something other morons tell someone to do.

Allen
08-28-2008, 07:44 PM
My boss asked me to apologies to an associate that works in my department once..... because he was all upset about me not listening to, or taking his (continuous) advice!


So I went to the guy and said that I'm sorry if you got butthurt because I don't want to listen to you all day "...if I were you I'd...." and "....listen to me I know what I'm talking about!"

I told him I was sorry he couldn't understand that I'm not trying to act like the department manager! I AM the department manager!

I told him I'd be even more sorry when I seen him buying groceries with his unemployment check, but if he couldn't get over his disappointment at not getting my job (he applied for the managers job too) I'd be looking for someone with a better attitude.




He seems to have gotten over it well!:pinch:

Erich
08-28-2008, 08:02 PM
Post count don't mean squat, I've been on sites for years and only have a dozen posts, mostly because IKIA;s (internet knowit alls) spend all their time padding their count over nothing, and creating drama.
Geez, he asked a question, pretty simple if your skin is that thin you oughta join a knitting site.
heehe:aagh:


I agree 100% How could someone have 500+ posts since may? Do you leave your computer for anything?.. lol
I post ALOT and I have half that in a year...

LJYJ
08-28-2008, 08:11 PM
I agree 100% How could someone have 500+ posts since may? Do you leave your computer for anything?.. lol
I post ALOT and I have half that in a year...

Did you not read my apology. There are pleanty of people here with WAY more post's then me. And if those of you running your mouths off about ME had read ANY of my posts from the past you will see maybe one or two posts where I have been "OFF TOPIC"
Most of the time I am dead on.
I have NEVER been ALL about how high i can get my post #'s
I post what I think is worth reading.

My post here in this thread was well deserved. BUT I STILL apologised.
SO! how about laying off!

Erich
08-28-2008, 09:57 PM
I was joking?
I have read ALOT of your posts, and haven't said a thing before this..
You seem to love to just post to get your post numbers up. Alot of your posts
are either void of any info, or a generic answer. I know those jeeps next to your name can be addicting,
so no biggie..

LJYJ
08-28-2008, 11:04 PM
I'm sorry. I'm a post whore. I have been trying not to post as much lately. ... Like rite now. Normly I would be posting like a whore about the weather. But I have been watching my #'s. Its soooo hard to not post in my LJYJ's weather thread.
BUT I dont want anyone to think I'm trying to get as many posts as I can!
Sorry my post's are short and to the point.
and some times generic.
I like to get my point across BUT without a whole page to read.
THAT and I love to see reactions in some people. Cracks me up! I 'am a bit redneck too. So that does not help! Been knocked in the brain bucket a few times too. so that does not help!
Dropped out of highschool. so I'm sure thats a big one!. so. HUH damn.
Now that I know how people feel. I will only make professional and well educated post's

I apologize to everyone!

Erich
08-29-2008, 10:17 AM
I'm sorry. I'm a post whore. I have been trying not to post as much lately. ... Like rite now. Normly I would be posting like a whore about the weather. But I have been watching my #'s. Its soooo hard to not post in my LJYJ's weather thread.
BUT I dont want anyone to think I'm trying to get as many posts as I can!
Sorry my post's are short and to the point.
and some times generic.
I like to get my point across BUT without a whole page to read.
THAT and I love to see reactions in some people. Cracks me up! I 'am a bit redneck too. So that does not help! Been knocked in the brain bucket a few times too. so that does not help!
Dropped out of highschool. so I'm sure thats a big one!. so. HUH damn.
Now that I know how people feel. I will only make professional and well educated post's

I apologize to everyone!

LMAO.
No Need to apologize, wasnt trying to get on ya, or make you feel uncomfortable. If you went thru my posts Im sure I have some short, generic ones myself. Im sorry if came off as a Internet know it all, I hate those guys..lol
Maybe I was a little jealous of your jeeps next to your name, or maybe it was because I was out of smoke..Yea, thats probably it..lol

See ya on the trail sometime, Ill buy ya a beer..lol

AZLugz
08-29-2008, 10:25 AM
I'm sorry. I'm a post whore. I have been trying not to post as much lately. ... Like rite now. Normly I would be posting like a whore about the weather. But I have been watching my #'s. Its soooo hard to not post in my LJYJ's weather thread.
BUT I dont want anyone to think I'm trying to get as many posts as I can!
Sorry my post's are short and to the point.
and some times generic.
I like to get my point across BUT without a whole page to read.
THAT and I love to see reactions in some people. Cracks me up! I 'am a bit redneck too. So that does not help! Been knocked in the brain bucket a few times too. so that does not help!
Dropped out of highschool. so I'm sure thats a big one!. so. HUH damn.
Now that I know how people feel. I will only make professional and well educated post's

I apologize to everyone!


Ah....don't let it get to ya, i am at the computer all day, and not all my posts have real content either, just some day s ya fell like jokin around, I enjoy a lot of yer posts so Rock on....crap, I do not even know what my post count is but I have been on the VJC since before this forum was us....my account did get screwed up tho and had to "re-Join" and used a different name!!!


OOOps, way off topic!!!

Bilt4Comfort
08-29-2008, 06:53 PM
Just dropping in a payment (post) for my next Jeep icon.

Carry on.

BushDawg
08-29-2008, 07:04 PM
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