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82154 From: Chris Lindsey <azrubi@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:08pm
Subject: RE: Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries
Are these an auxillary "extra" battery, or to replace the existing
battery?
TIA,
Chris
>>>-------------------->
Christopher Lindsey
Union Planters Mortgage
8700 E. Via de Ventura
Suite 150
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
http://www.ChrisLindsey.com
480-951-1422 Ext. 300 Main
480-951-1625 FAX
602-577-5988 Cell
>>>-------------------->
-----Original Message-----
From: "BradP Kilgore" <brad.kilgore@p...>
To: "tj_angel_113" <angel_113_@h...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:25:17 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries
> Many people are too sensative, this is what the group is for.
>
> Count me in, I may even get two.
>
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tj_angel_113 [mailto:angel_113_@h...]
> Sent: Fri 4/4/2003 11:34 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [az_vjc] Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima
batteries
>
>
>
> I have a line on getting some Yellow Optima top batteries at a
very
> good price. I believe this is the battery you want for winching
and
> all your other Jeep needs. I'm hoping to be able to sell them for
> about $100 or so each. Plus no shipping costs--pick up in Tempe
> only. Please e-mail me if you are interested so I can know how
much
> interest there is here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angel
>
>
>
> P.S. is it OK to present this idea to the group?? I am only doing
> this for this Jeep Club because I thought I could pass on a good
> deal to everyone here. Please delete this post if it considered
> spam.
>
>
>
>
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82155 From: Nichole <cj7wheelin@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:37pm
Subject: Re: Training Class Thanks
Hey Darnella,
I spotted you right before you left after saying your goodbyes. I
will make sure I grab you and introduce myself the next time I see
you.
(hint) To find me, just look for the person chasing after the little
white dog (Porter)! : )~
Happy Jeepin'
Nichole
82156 From: casper <casper@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 10:51am
Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
Thanks Dan. I appreciate the help. I actually have two tanks, now I just
need the regulator and misc.... part.
Casper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>
To: "casper" <casper@c...>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> I got everything (except the tank) at a local industrial supply store,
here
> in Lake Havasu City for a little less than $70. That was for:
>
> 50ft coiled hose
> all fittings (I set it up with quick disconnects at the regulator and the
> other end of the hose)
> 150psi fixed regulator
>
> Don't be afraid to haggle. I called the guy after he gave me a price on
> everything and told him the wife wasn't going for it, and he dropped the
> price of the regulator down from $39 to $25 and the hose from $25 to $20.
> That tells you what kind of a markup they have on this stuff. You might be
> able to get better prices in the Phoenix area than what I got.
>
> I hope this helps you.
>
> Dan
>
>
> casper writes:
>
> > Hello Dan,
> > I was reading your post about the CO2 setup. Can you give me an idea
on
> > the cost of the setup, (regulator, hose, etc.)? I have two CO2 tanks,
and I
> > am interested in doing the same thing. My Father-in-law use to be in the
> > vending machine business, and owned many CO2 tanks. He had many old
style
> > soda machines, the ones where the plastic cup falls and the soda is
mixed.
> > Anyway, I would like to set up a system myself if you could give me any
> > ideas I would greatly appreciate it. I live in Payson, and there is not
a
> > whole lot of places to get parts. But I am always in Mesa, so I can pick
up
> > parts while I pass through.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Casper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 3:04 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> >
> >
> >> I just wanted to say thanks to anyone and everyone who responded to
> >> my question about CO2 setup. I got it all together and all I need to
> >> do is fill it before I leave for Moab.
> >>
> >> I went with a 150PSI fixed regulator, coiled hose (The guy at the
> >> industrial supply store where I bought it says that he uses the same
> >> setup.),a quick release at the regulator, one at the end of the line,
> >> and a supercheap (inexpensive, high quality)air chuck.
> >>
> >> The local welding supply will fill it for me for $14.
> >>
> >> Will anyone that's going to Moab for Easter have any decals, so I can
> >> get a couple?
> >>
> >> Once again, thanks to everyone for the help...
> >>
> >> AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> >> '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> >> > Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I
> >> > believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
> >> >
> >> > Joey K
> >> > 93YJ
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
> >> > To: 'Joey Martinez'
> >> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joey,
> >> >
> >> > I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was
> >> a bit
> >> > more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal
> >> > bracket.
> >> >
> >> > Joey K
> >> > 93YJ
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
> >> > To: jeepclub
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
> >> >
> >> > 94xjoe
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
82157 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:52pm
Subject: Attn: Andrew at SignExpressions...
Can you shoot me an e-mail back.
Thanks,
Mike Baney
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82158 From: Nichole <cj7wheelin@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:05pm
Subject: Training Class
Here's another big thanks to everyone that worked the training class
on Saturday. Jim you did a great job organizing the whole thing and
all the trainers, you did a great job working with everyone and
adjusting the various skill levels present. No matter what level we
were at I think I can safely say we all learned something! Great
Job!!
And I also want to thank Nasser for letting me ride along for the
waterfall (still kicking myself for not trying that one) and
Intimidator with Scott! That was the coolest!!
This is a great group and this is proven to me everytime I hang out
and the more people I meet!
Thanks Again!! Happy Jeepin!
Nichole
82159 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
I have a fixed flow regulator that you can have (I believe it is 150lbs so
its too much for power tools but fine for tire inflation). Just shoot me an
email if you want it.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "casper" <casper@c...>
>Reply-To: "casper" <casper@c...>
>To: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:51:16 -0500
>
>Thanks Dan. I appreciate the help. I actually have two tanks, now I just
>need the regulator and misc.... part.
>
>Casper
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>
>To: "casper" <casper@c...>
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:29 AM
>Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
>
>
> > I got everything (except the tank) at a local industrial supply store,
>here
> > in Lake Havasu City for a little less than $70. That was for:
> >
> > 50ft coiled hose
> > all fittings (I set it up with quick disconnects at the regulator and
>the
> > other end of the hose)
> > 150psi fixed regulator
> >
> > Don't be afraid to haggle. I called the guy after he gave me a price on
> > everything and told him the wife wasn't going for it, and he dropped the
> > price of the regulator down from $39 to $25 and the hose from $25 to
>$20.
> > That tells you what kind of a markup they have on this stuff. You might
>be
> > able to get better prices in the Phoenix area than what I got.
> >
> > I hope this helps you.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > casper writes:
> >
> > > Hello Dan,
> > > I was reading your post about the CO2 setup. Can you give me an
>idea
>on
> > > the cost of the setup, (regulator, hose, etc.)? I have two CO2 tanks,
>and I
> > > am interested in doing the same thing. My Father-in-law use to be in
>the
> > > vending machine business, and owned many CO2 tanks. He had many old
>style
> > > soda machines, the ones where the plastic cup falls and the soda is
>mixed.
> > > Anyway, I would like to set up a system myself if you could give me
>any
> > > ideas I would greatly appreciate it. I live in Payson, and there is
>not
>a
> > > whole lot of places to get parts. But I am always in Mesa, so I can
>pick
>up
> > > parts while I pass through.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Casper
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 3:04 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> > >
> > >
> > >> I just wanted to say thanks to anyone and everyone who responded to
> > >> my question about CO2 setup. I got it all together and all I need to
> > >> do is fill it before I leave for Moab.
> > >>
> > >> I went with a 150PSI fixed regulator, coiled hose (The guy at the
> > >> industrial supply store where I bought it says that he uses the same
> > >> setup.),a quick release at the regulator, one at the end of the line,
> > >> and a supercheap (inexpensive, high quality)air chuck.
> > >>
> > >> The local welding supply will fill it for me for $14.
> > >>
> > >> Will anyone that's going to Moab for Easter have any decals, so I can
> > >> get a couple?
> > >>
> > >> Once again, thanks to everyone for the help...
> > >>
> > >> AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > >> '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > >> > Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I
> > >> > believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey K
> > >> > 93YJ
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
> > >> > To: 'Joey Martinez'
> > >> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey,
> > >> >
> > >> > I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was
> > >> a bit
> > >> > more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy
>metal
> > >> > bracket.
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey K
> > >> > 93YJ
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
> > >> > To: jeepclub
> > >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > 94xjoe
> > >> >
> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> > >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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82160 From: Michael Hudson <mhudson@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:45pm
Subject: RE: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
That depends on a lot of things, the largest variable being the driver, and his/her ability to control wheelspin.
Lets just say, typically, best acceleration happens with a controled amount of wheelspin out of the hole, this lets the motor stay in the powerband and avoids bogging down.
Tq convertors, gearing, traction avilable all play into it, and make the rules more complicated.
So, a basically stock I6 accelerating on pavement, 2wd with some spin on initial takeoff would produce best acceleration.
-----Original Message-----
From: leonardg5185 [mailto:leonardg@i...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
but...
All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
(Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
amount of torque.)
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82161 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:34pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
Get an XJ and you can use "full time" 4wd all the time!
</ducking>
Mike
leonardg5185 wrote:
> I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> but...
>
> All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
> was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
>
> (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> amount of torque.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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82162 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
I have had similar problems with my 93 4.0L ZJ. The problem has been
with the throttle position sensor. I think I finally got a good part.
I was replacing them on a yearly basis because dirt would get into
the moving parts and they would fail. The TPS should have a dust
boot, but over time, the units either didn't have dust boots or the
dust boots didn't fit correctly on the TPS mount on the side of the
throttle body. It seemed like Jeep was redesigning the part every
year (or maybe they were assigning the wrong P/N to the 93 model
year). The problem with my ZJ is is that it is a early model and many
parts are the same as they used on the 92 XJs.
Anyway, I hope replacing the air idle motor did the job. I had that
fail once and the symptoms are very similar to a failing TPS.
Linda
54 Willys Wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> Mike & all,
>
> Problem was, when the ZJ was first started (cold) it would
> not idle/run.
>
> Here is what I did:
>
> 1. Had the dealer perform their fuel system
> service: $250.00
> 2. I replaced the Spark plugs (Champion) $12.00
>
> 3. I replaced the Cap and Rotor (both bad)
> $16.00
> 4. I replaced the Idle Air Control Valve (IAC)
> $38.00
>
> #1 helped, but it still idled poorly when the engine was
> cold.
> #2 again helped, but still had the idle problem - but engine
> didn't die.
> #3 and #4 were were done at the same time, so I don't know
> for sure which one actually fixed the problem, but the IAC
> Valve was very dirty with years of carbon built up on it, so
> I'm guessing that was the problem. I should add that the
> computer did NOT show any error codes for the IAC Valve, and
> again I am guessing that it was still working, but not
> correctly because it was sooooo dirty.
>
> I will be going back to discuss this with the dealer. Will
> let you all know what I find out.
>
> Thanks to all that responded. The AZVJC comes through
> again!
>
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8
>
> CowBoy7575@a... wrote:
>
> > I have the same problem with my 96 with a 5.2 and my 98
> > 5.9......drives me nuts and the stealership doesnt know
> > wny
> >
> > Mike
82164 From: thomas_caruth <info@i...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:56pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
On pavement, even if you don't hear/see tires squealing or smoking,
tires always slip some on quick acceleration. 4WD gives maximum
traction that can make up for some tire slippage. With 4 WD you have
more traction & less loss of torque so you accelerate faster than in
2WD.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardg5185" <leonardg@i...> wrote:
> I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> but...
>
> All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the
Jeep
> was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
>
> (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> amount of torque.)
82165 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
The first thing racers do is put a posi in the rear end.....more traction,
better acceleration. (Dont see them putting too many 4wds on the race cars
though :)
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "thomas_caruth" <info@i...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
>Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:51:51 -0000
>
>If the pavement has gravel or the tires are smooth, you are going to
>get some slipping and loss of torque. With 2WD you have less
>traction. With 4 WD you have more traction & less loss of torque so
>you accelerate faster than in 2WD.
>
>Even if you don't hear/see tires squealing or smoking, tires always
>slip some on quick acceleration. 4WD gives maximum traction that can
>make up for some tire slippage.
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardg5185" <leonardg@i...> wrote:
> > I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> > but...
> >
> > All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> > stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the
>Jeep
> > was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
> >
> > (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> > amount of torque.)
>
>
>
>
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82166 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:58pm
Subject: Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Cool! I was planning a similar unit for the ZJ to replace the upper
control arms. Also called Torque Arms or Torque Bars, the concept has
been used on coil suspensions on automobiles and light trucks since
the mid-1960s. I figured it would be a good way of simplifying the
rear suspension on the Jeep. We built a second cross-member and
started the torque arm design. But Willys-fever struck and the idea
was shelved.
Anyway, you might have a customer for another anti-wrap bar when the
wagon is up and running. It'll need it. :-)
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
wrote:
> Well I finally finished it this weekend. Some good pain pills and
> anti-flamitories got me through it with my broken ribs. I ended up
doing a
> full ladder type. I had to do the ladder verses the single bar
mainly
> because my leafs are on top the axel and the only way to
triangulate about
> the axel center line was to put a bar below the axel and I fingered
if I
> have to have one below the axel then putting one above the axel to
help take
> up the torque was no big deal. It works great! You should hear
these
> swampers bark when I pop the clutch on the street! Hehehe. You can
also see
> it did not effect my articulation at all. The picture of me on the
ramp is
> at full street pressure and I am still well over 1000 RTI.
>
> <<Ladder Bar.jpg>> <<On ramp.jpg>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
82167 From: Mike <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:01pm
Subject: Re: New shop girl pics. Mini Skirt!!!!!!
And to think that he/she/it's leaning on MY Jeep! ! ! (NO! No
pictures EVER of me like that!)
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
wrote:
> OMG!!! You see what competion we have.... Sharky, you're giving
> us "shop girls" a bad name!! I am still in shock..... And
Duffy.....
> what were you thinking???? You are one twisted individual!!!
>
> I saw Smitty in the background. Where's his skirt?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Duffy Ladd" <dladd5@c...> wrote:
> > Well. it finally happened! We have a new shop girl to sweep. It's
> not!! by our choice I might had!!!!!!
> > The former shop girl is still on
> > available if needed but Sharky
> > decided to show his true self today! What do you think. Lets all
be
> honest here! Very Honest!!!!
> > That was a ladies wrap around shirt. It's suppose to wrap around
> twice but BARELY made it around Sharky. He was sorry he said that
> next time he will bring his 3" heels!!
> >
> >
> > Duffy
82168 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: rolled h2
Probably not actually. It was probably some yuppy that thought it would
corner like a Porsche (they cost the same don't they?) and rolled it on
the street. They'll now sue GM for not telling them that it could tip
over.
Chris
On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Rob Williams wrote:
> heh heh.. that means someone actually used it!!! er.... TRIED to
> use it! LOL Hey... at least he can prove he took it "off road" heh
> heh -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jeep108" <jeep108@h...> wrote:
>> On my way home from work today I saw a Hummer H2 that looked
> freshly
>> rolled driving down the road.It was really trashed,but it did look
> a
>> little better.Anyone know anything about this.
>>
>> Ken U
>
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82169 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:46pm
Subject: Just got my new Rubicon
Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
82170 From: Kyle Hagan <kyle@u...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:55pm
Subject: Re: Just got my new Rubicon
Last time I went on Upper Terminator a stock Rubie made it through it.
Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Just got my new Rubicon
> Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
>
> So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
> Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
>
>
>
>
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82171 From: fountainhillsaz1 <fountainhillsaz1@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:01pm
Subject: WANTED: 92+ YJ factory roll bar
I have a '90 YJ and want to upgrade the factory roll bar to the newer
style for better protection of the back seat. If you have upgraded
your cage and have one laying around in your yard, I'd appreciate if
you could drop me a line.
Thanks
Greg
'90YJ
82172 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:03pm
Subject: RE: Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Hey Linda how have you been? Just let me know when you are ready for you
anti-wrap bar.
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda [mailto:minihummer@w...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Cool! I was planning a similar unit for the ZJ to replace the upper
control arms. Also called Torque Arms or Torque Bars, the concept has
been used on coil suspensions on automobiles and light trucks since
the mid-1960s. I figured it would be a good way of simplifying the
rear suspension on the Jeep. We built a second cross-member and
started the torque arm design. But Willys-fever struck and the idea
was shelved.
Anyway, you might have a customer for another anti-wrap bar when the
wagon is up and running. It'll need it. :-)
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
wrote:
> Well I finally finished it this weekend. Some good pain pills and
> anti-flamitories got me through it with my broken ribs. I ended up
doing a
> full ladder type. I had to do the ladder verses the single bar
mainly
> because my leafs are on top the axel and the only way to
triangulate about
> the axel center line was to put a bar below the axel and I fingered
if I
> have to have one below the axel then putting one above the axel to
help take
> up the torque was no big deal. It works great! You should hear
these
> swampers bark when I pop the clutch on the street! Hehehe. You can
also see
> it did not effect my articulation at all. The picture of me on the
ramp is
> at full street pressure and I am still well over 1000 RTI.
>
> <<Ladder Bar.jpg>> <<On ramp.jpg>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
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82173 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: RE: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
______,
Quick answer: No. More acceleration in 2wd.
Quick explanation: less power loss because of the added components
needed to turn the front tires.
Some may argue that 4wd has more traction thereby giving you more pull.
With enough power the front tires lift negating their benefit. Adding
more weight to keep them on the ground will also defeat the more
traction. Remember this is for on asphalt, off the line acceleration.
Acceleration is dictated by torque which is driven by horse power.
Engines have a power curve which is how you configure your gears for the
drive train.
Traction or friction is the amount/type of rubber you have in contact
with the asphalt.
If you are looking to go fast, driving a brick or aka "wind break" is
not recommended.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: leonardg5185 [mailto:leonardg@i...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
but...
All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
(Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
amount of torque.)
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82174 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:41pm
Subject: Re: Training Class
Glad you had fun Nichole, I told you you coulda driven those two
waterfalls;P
And I agree, Jim and crew did a VERY good job organizing this event,
all I did was help out and have some fun. It was really cool to see
the stock Jeeps out on the rocks:D
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> Here's another big thanks to everyone that worked the training
class
> on Saturday. Jim you did a great job organizing the whole thing
and
> all the trainers, you did a great job working with everyone and
> adjusting the various skill levels present. No matter what level
we
> were at I think I can safely say we all learned something! Great
> Job!!
>
> And I also want to thank Nasser for letting me ride along for the
> waterfall (still kicking myself for not trying that one) and
> Intimidator with Scott! That was the coolest!!
>
> This is a great group and this is proven to me everytime I hang out
> and the more people I meet!
>
> Thanks Again!! Happy Jeepin!
>
> Nichole
82175 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:57pm
Subject: need drivers side drop waggy 44 narrow track asap
I am conign down to PHX on Sunday this week to get some other stuff
and need a waggy axle preferably with locking hubs but not necessary
can anyone help me out...Im gonna gut it to fit all on a narrowed hp
44 from a ford.
82176 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
> > All,
> >
> > This is a picture of one of our Hogs that just refused to go down. This
> hog
> > was shot at numerous times. I saw this plane coming in a few hours ago,
> and
> > we were overjoyed to watch it come home and land. The last picture is
one
> > of the pilot (the female). Amazing things are happening here each and
> every
> > day!
> >
> > Lt Herriott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > <<MVC-002F.JPG>> <<MVC-003F.JPG>> <<MVC-004F.JPG>>
<<MVC-005F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-006F.JPG>> <<MVC-007F.JPG>> <<MVC-008F.JPG>> <<MVC-009F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-010F.JPG>> <<MVC-011F.JPG>> <<MVC-012F.JPG>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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82177 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 5:06pm
Subject: RE: OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
Wow, That is quite and impressive display of using up bandwidth. LOL
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna [mailto:mkacuna@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
> > All,
> >
> > This is a picture of one of our Hogs that just refused to go down.
> > This
> hog
> > was shot at numerous times. I saw this plane coming in a few hours
> > ago,
> and
> > we were overjoyed to watch it come home and land. The last picture
> > is
one
> > of the pilot (the female). Amazing things are happening here each
> > and
> every
> > day!
> >
> > Lt Herriott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > <<MVC-002F.JPG>> <<MVC-003F.JPG>> <<MVC-004F.JPG>>
<<MVC-005F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-006F.JPG>> <<MVC-007F.JPG>> <<MVC-008F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-009F.JPG>> <<MVC-010F.JPG>> <<MVC-011F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-012F.JPG>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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82178 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 5:56pm
Subject: RE: Just got my new Rubicon
Well???
Tell us about it! Color? Options? Automatic or manual???
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:47 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Just got my new Rubicon
Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
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82179 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:39pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
How about this idea, buy a 98 5.9 LImited ZJ and go like a bat out of hell in all wheel drive :-)
Mike
82154 From: Chris Lindsey <azrubi@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:08pm
Subject: RE: Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries
Are these an auxillary "extra" battery, or to replace the existing
battery?
TIA,
Chris
>>>-------------------->
Christopher Lindsey
Union Planters Mortgage
8700 E. Via de Ventura
Suite 150
Scottsdale, AZ 85258
http://www.ChrisLindsey.com
480-951-1422 Ext. 300 Main
480-951-1625 FAX
602-577-5988 Cell
>>>-------------------->
-----Original Message-----
From: "BradP Kilgore" <brad.kilgore@p...>
To: "tj_angel_113" <angel_113_@h...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2003 08:25:17 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries
> Many people are too sensative, this is what the group is for.
>
> Count me in, I may even get two.
>
> Brad
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tj_angel_113 [mailto:angel_113_@h...]
> Sent: Fri 4/4/2003 11:34 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Cc:
> Subject: [az_vjc] Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima
batteries
>
>
>
> I have a line on getting some Yellow Optima top batteries at a
very
> good price. I believe this is the battery you want for winching
and
> all your other Jeep needs. I'm hoping to be able to sell them for
> about $100 or so each. Plus no shipping costs--pick up in Tempe
> only. Please e-mail me if you are interested so I can know how
much
> interest there is here.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Angel
>
>
>
> P.S. is it OK to present this idea to the group?? I am only doing
> this for this Jeep Club because I thought I could pass on a good
> deal to everyone here. Please delete this post if it considered
> spam.
>
>
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82155 From: Nichole <cj7wheelin@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:37pm
Subject: Re: Training Class Thanks
Hey Darnella,
I spotted you right before you left after saying your goodbyes. I
will make sure I grab you and introduce myself the next time I see
you.
(hint) To find me, just look for the person chasing after the little
white dog (Porter)! : )~
Happy Jeepin'
Nichole
82156 From: casper <casper@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 10:51am
Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
Thanks Dan. I appreciate the help. I actually have two tanks, now I just
need the regulator and misc.... part.
Casper
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>
To: "casper" <casper@c...>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> I got everything (except the tank) at a local industrial supply store,
here
> in Lake Havasu City for a little less than $70. That was for:
>
> 50ft coiled hose
> all fittings (I set it up with quick disconnects at the regulator and the
> other end of the hose)
> 150psi fixed regulator
>
> Don't be afraid to haggle. I called the guy after he gave me a price on
> everything and told him the wife wasn't going for it, and he dropped the
> price of the regulator down from $39 to $25 and the hose from $25 to $20.
> That tells you what kind of a markup they have on this stuff. You might be
> able to get better prices in the Phoenix area than what I got.
>
> I hope this helps you.
>
> Dan
>
>
> casper writes:
>
> > Hello Dan,
> > I was reading your post about the CO2 setup. Can you give me an idea
on
> > the cost of the setup, (regulator, hose, etc.)? I have two CO2 tanks,
and I
> > am interested in doing the same thing. My Father-in-law use to be in the
> > vending machine business, and owned many CO2 tanks. He had many old
style
> > soda machines, the ones where the plastic cup falls and the soda is
mixed.
> > Anyway, I would like to set up a system myself if you could give me any
> > ideas I would greatly appreciate it. I live in Payson, and there is not
a
> > whole lot of places to get parts. But I am always in Mesa, so I can pick
up
> > parts while I pass through.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Casper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 3:04 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> >
> >
> >> I just wanted to say thanks to anyone and everyone who responded to
> >> my question about CO2 setup. I got it all together and all I need to
> >> do is fill it before I leave for Moab.
> >>
> >> I went with a 150PSI fixed regulator, coiled hose (The guy at the
> >> industrial supply store where I bought it says that he uses the same
> >> setup.),a quick release at the regulator, one at the end of the line,
> >> and a supercheap (inexpensive, high quality)air chuck.
> >>
> >> The local welding supply will fill it for me for $14.
> >>
> >> Will anyone that's going to Moab for Easter have any decals, so I can
> >> get a couple?
> >>
> >> Once again, thanks to everyone for the help...
> >>
> >> AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> >> '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> >> > Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I
> >> > believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
> >> >
> >> > Joey K
> >> > 93YJ
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
> >> > To: 'Joey Martinez'
> >> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Joey,
> >> >
> >> > I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was
> >> a bit
> >> > more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal
> >> > bracket.
> >> >
> >> > Joey K
> >> > 93YJ
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
> >> > To: jeepclub
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
> >> >
> >> > 94xjoe
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
82157 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 0:52pm
Subject: Attn: Andrew at SignExpressions...
Can you shoot me an e-mail back.
Thanks,
Mike Baney
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82158 From: Nichole <cj7wheelin@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:05pm
Subject: Training Class
Here's another big thanks to everyone that worked the training class
on Saturday. Jim you did a great job organizing the whole thing and
all the trainers, you did a great job working with everyone and
adjusting the various skill levels present. No matter what level we
were at I think I can safely say we all learned something! Great
Job!!
And I also want to thank Nasser for letting me ride along for the
waterfall (still kicking myself for not trying that one) and
Intimidator with Scott! That was the coolest!!
This is a great group and this is proven to me everytime I hang out
and the more people I meet!
Thanks Again!! Happy Jeepin!
Nichole
82159 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
I have a fixed flow regulator that you can have (I believe it is 150lbs so
its too much for power tools but fine for tire inflation). Just shoot me an
email if you want it.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "casper" <casper@c...>
>Reply-To: "casper" <casper@c...>
>To: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
>Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 12:51:16 -0500
>
>Thanks Dan. I appreciate the help. I actually have two tanks, now I just
>need the regulator and misc.... part.
>
>Casper
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dan and Peggy" <dannpegg@c...>
>To: "casper" <casper@c...>
>Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 9:29 AM
>Subject: Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
>
>
> > I got everything (except the tank) at a local industrial supply store,
>here
> > in Lake Havasu City for a little less than $70. That was for:
> >
> > 50ft coiled hose
> > all fittings (I set it up with quick disconnects at the regulator and
>the
> > other end of the hose)
> > 150psi fixed regulator
> >
> > Don't be afraid to haggle. I called the guy after he gave me a price on
> > everything and told him the wife wasn't going for it, and he dropped the
> > price of the regulator down from $39 to $25 and the hose from $25 to
>$20.
> > That tells you what kind of a markup they have on this stuff. You might
>be
> > able to get better prices in the Phoenix area than what I got.
> >
> > I hope this helps you.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > casper writes:
> >
> > > Hello Dan,
> > > I was reading your post about the CO2 setup. Can you give me an
>idea
>on
> > > the cost of the setup, (regulator, hose, etc.)? I have two CO2 tanks,
>and I
> > > am interested in doing the same thing. My Father-in-law use to be in
>the
> > > vending machine business, and owned many CO2 tanks. He had many old
>style
> > > soda machines, the ones where the plastic cup falls and the soda is
>mixed.
> > > Anyway, I would like to set up a system myself if you could give me
>any
> > > ideas I would greatly appreciate it. I live in Payson, and there is
>not
>a
> > > whole lot of places to get parts. But I am always in Mesa, so I can
>pick
>up
> > > parts while I pass through.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Casper
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 3:04 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup??? (Thanks, everyone!!!)
> > >
> > >
> > >> I just wanted to say thanks to anyone and everyone who responded to
> > >> my question about CO2 setup. I got it all together and all I need to
> > >> do is fill it before I leave for Moab.
> > >>
> > >> I went with a 150PSI fixed regulator, coiled hose (The guy at the
> > >> industrial supply store where I bought it says that he uses the same
> > >> setup.),a quick release at the regulator, one at the end of the line,
> > >> and a supercheap (inexpensive, high quality)air chuck.
> > >>
> > >> The local welding supply will fill it for me for $14.
> > >>
> > >> Will anyone that's going to Moab for Easter have any decals, so I can
> > >> get a couple?
> > >>
> > >> Once again, thanks to everyone for the help...
> > >>
> > >> AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > >> '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > >> > Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I
> > >> > believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey K
> > >> > 93YJ
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
> > >> > To: 'Joey Martinez'
> > >> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey,
> > >> >
> > >> > I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was
> > >> a bit
> > >> > more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy
>metal
> > >> > bracket.
> > >> >
> > >> > Joey K
> > >> > 93YJ
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
> > >> > To: jeepclub
> > >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
> > >> >
> > >> > 94xjoe
> > >> >
> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo!
> > >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > >> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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82160 From: Michael Hudson <mhudson@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 1:45pm
Subject: RE: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
That depends on a lot of things, the largest variable being the driver, and his/her ability to control wheelspin.
Lets just say, typically, best acceleration happens with a controled amount of wheelspin out of the hole, this lets the motor stay in the powerband and avoids bogging down.
Tq convertors, gearing, traction avilable all play into it, and make the rules more complicated.
So, a basically stock I6 accelerating on pavement, 2wd with some spin on initial takeoff would produce best acceleration.
-----Original Message-----
From: leonardg5185 [mailto:leonardg@i...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
but...
All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
(Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
amount of torque.)
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82161 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:34pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
Get an XJ and you can use "full time" 4wd all the time!
</ducking>
Mike
leonardg5185 wrote:
> I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> but...
>
> All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
> was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
>
> (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> amount of torque.)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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82162 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
I have had similar problems with my 93 4.0L ZJ. The problem has been
with the throttle position sensor. I think I finally got a good part.
I was replacing them on a yearly basis because dirt would get into
the moving parts and they would fail. The TPS should have a dust
boot, but over time, the units either didn't have dust boots or the
dust boots didn't fit correctly on the TPS mount on the side of the
throttle body. It seemed like Jeep was redesigning the part every
year (or maybe they were assigning the wrong P/N to the 93 model
year). The problem with my ZJ is is that it is a early model and many
parts are the same as they used on the 92 XJs.
Anyway, I hope replacing the air idle motor did the job. I had that
fail once and the symptoms are very similar to a failing TPS.
Linda
54 Willys Wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...> wrote:
> Mike & all,
>
> Problem was, when the ZJ was first started (cold) it would
> not idle/run.
>
> Here is what I did:
>
> 1. Had the dealer perform their fuel system
> service: $250.00
> 2. I replaced the Spark plugs (Champion) $12.00
>
> 3. I replaced the Cap and Rotor (both bad)
> $16.00
> 4. I replaced the Idle Air Control Valve (IAC)
> $38.00
>
> #1 helped, but it still idled poorly when the engine was
> cold.
> #2 again helped, but still had the idle problem - but engine
> didn't die.
> #3 and #4 were were done at the same time, so I don't know
> for sure which one actually fixed the problem, but the IAC
> Valve was very dirty with years of carbon built up on it, so
> I'm guessing that was the problem. I should add that the
> computer did NOT show any error codes for the IAC Valve, and
> again I am guessing that it was still working, but not
> correctly because it was sooooo dirty.
>
> I will be going back to discuss this with the dealer. Will
> let you all know what I find out.
>
> Thanks to all that responded. The AZVJC comes through
> again!
>
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8
>
> CowBoy7575@a... wrote:
>
> > I have the same problem with my 96 with a 5.2 and my 98
> > 5.9......drives me nuts and the stealership doesnt know
> > wny
> >
> > Mike
82164 From: thomas_caruth <info@i...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:56pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
On pavement, even if you don't hear/see tires squealing or smoking,
tires always slip some on quick acceleration. 4WD gives maximum
traction that can make up for some tire slippage. With 4 WD you have
more traction & less loss of torque so you accelerate faster than in
2WD.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardg5185" <leonardg@i...> wrote:
> I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> but...
>
> All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the
Jeep
> was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
>
> (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> amount of torque.)
82165 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
The first thing racers do is put a posi in the rear end.....more traction,
better acceleration. (Dont see them putting too many 4wds on the race cars
though :)
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "thomas_caruth" <info@i...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
>Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2003 21:51:51 -0000
>
>If the pavement has gravel or the tires are smooth, you are going to
>get some slipping and loss of torque. With 2WD you have less
>traction. With 4 WD you have more traction & less loss of torque so
>you accelerate faster than in 2WD.
>
>Even if you don't hear/see tires squealing or smoking, tires always
>slip some on quick acceleration. 4WD gives maximum traction that can
>make up for some tire slippage.
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardg5185" <leonardg@i...> wrote:
> > I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
> > but...
> >
> > All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
> > stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the
>Jeep
> > was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
> >
> > (Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
> > amount of torque.)
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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82166 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:58pm
Subject: Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Cool! I was planning a similar unit for the ZJ to replace the upper
control arms. Also called Torque Arms or Torque Bars, the concept has
been used on coil suspensions on automobiles and light trucks since
the mid-1960s. I figured it would be a good way of simplifying the
rear suspension on the Jeep. We built a second cross-member and
started the torque arm design. But Willys-fever struck and the idea
was shelved.
Anyway, you might have a customer for another anti-wrap bar when the
wagon is up and running. It'll need it. :-)
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
wrote:
> Well I finally finished it this weekend. Some good pain pills and
> anti-flamitories got me through it with my broken ribs. I ended up
doing a
> full ladder type. I had to do the ladder verses the single bar
mainly
> because my leafs are on top the axel and the only way to
triangulate about
> the axel center line was to put a bar below the axel and I fingered
if I
> have to have one below the axel then putting one above the axel to
help take
> up the torque was no big deal. It works great! You should hear
these
> swampers bark when I pop the clutch on the street! Hehehe. You can
also see
> it did not effect my articulation at all. The picture of me on the
ramp is
> at full street pressure and I am still well over 1000 RTI.
>
> <<Ladder Bar.jpg>> <<On ramp.jpg>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
82167 From: Mike <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:01pm
Subject: Re: New shop girl pics. Mini Skirt!!!!!!
And to think that he/she/it's leaning on MY Jeep! ! ! (NO! No
pictures EVER of me like that!)
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
wrote:
> OMG!!! You see what competion we have.... Sharky, you're giving
> us "shop girls" a bad name!! I am still in shock..... And
Duffy.....
> what were you thinking???? You are one twisted individual!!!
>
> I saw Smitty in the background. Where's his skirt?
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Duffy Ladd" <dladd5@c...> wrote:
> > Well. it finally happened! We have a new shop girl to sweep. It's
> not!! by our choice I might had!!!!!!
> > The former shop girl is still on
> > available if needed but Sharky
> > decided to show his true self today! What do you think. Lets all
be
> honest here! Very Honest!!!!
> > That was a ladies wrap around shirt. It's suppose to wrap around
> twice but BARELY made it around Sharky. He was sorry he said that
> next time he will bring his 3" heels!!
> >
> >
> > Duffy
82168 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: rolled h2
Probably not actually. It was probably some yuppy that thought it would
corner like a Porsche (they cost the same don't they?) and rolled it on
the street. They'll now sue GM for not telling them that it could tip
over.
Chris
On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 09:38 AM, Rob Williams wrote:
> heh heh.. that means someone actually used it!!! er.... TRIED to
> use it! LOL Hey... at least he can prove he took it "off road" heh
> heh -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jeep108" <jeep108@h...> wrote:
>> On my way home from work today I saw a Hummer H2 that looked
> freshly
>> rolled driving down the road.It was really trashed,but it did look
> a
>> little better.Anyone know anything about this.
>>
>> Ken U
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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82169 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:46pm
Subject: Just got my new Rubicon
Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
82170 From: Kyle Hagan <kyle@u...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 3:55pm
Subject: Re: Just got my new Rubicon
Last time I went on Upper Terminator a stock Rubie made it through it.
Kyle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Just got my new Rubicon
> Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
>
> So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
> Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
82171 From: fountainhillsaz1 <fountainhillsaz1@y...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:01pm
Subject: WANTED: 92+ YJ factory roll bar
I have a '90 YJ and want to upgrade the factory roll bar to the newer
style for better protection of the back seat. If you have upgraded
your cage and have one laying around in your yard, I'd appreciate if
you could drop me a line.
Thanks
Greg
'90YJ
82172 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:03pm
Subject: RE: Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Hey Linda how have you been? Just let me know when you are ready for you
anti-wrap bar.
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda [mailto:minihummer@w...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 2:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Anti-wrap bar done
Cool! I was planning a similar unit for the ZJ to replace the upper
control arms. Also called Torque Arms or Torque Bars, the concept has
been used on coil suspensions on automobiles and light trucks since
the mid-1960s. I figured it would be a good way of simplifying the
rear suspension on the Jeep. We built a second cross-member and
started the torque arm design. But Willys-fever struck and the idea
was shelved.
Anyway, you might have a customer for another anti-wrap bar when the
wagon is up and running. It'll need it. :-)
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
wrote:
> Well I finally finished it this weekend. Some good pain pills and
> anti-flamitories got me through it with my broken ribs. I ended up
doing a
> full ladder type. I had to do the ladder verses the single bar
mainly
> because my leafs are on top the axel and the only way to
triangulate about
> the axel center line was to put a bar below the axel and I fingered
if I
> have to have one below the axel then putting one above the axel to
help take
> up the torque was no big deal. It works great! You should hear
these
> swampers bark when I pop the clutch on the street! Hehehe. You can
also see
> it did not effect my articulation at all. The picture of me on the
ramp is
> at full street pressure and I am still well over 1000 RTI.
>
> <<Ladder Bar.jpg>> <<On ramp.jpg>>
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Randy Siade
> Engineering Manager
> Unisys Unigen Operations
> 6161 W. Erie Street
> Chandler, AZ 85226
> Phone 480 783-5911
> Fax 480 783-5960
> Cell 602-329-0699
> randy.siade@u...
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82173 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: RE: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
______,
Quick answer: No. More acceleration in 2wd.
Quick explanation: less power loss because of the added components
needed to turn the front tires.
Some may argue that 4wd has more traction thereby giving you more pull.
With enough power the front tires lift negating their benefit. Adding
more weight to keep them on the ground will also defeat the more
traction. Remember this is for on asphalt, off the line acceleration.
Acceleration is dictated by torque which is driven by horse power.
Engines have a power curve which is how you configure your gears for the
drive train.
Traction or friction is the amount/type of rubber you have in contact
with the asphalt.
If you are looking to go fast, driving a brick or aka "wind break" is
not recommended.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: leonardg5185 [mailto:leonardg@i...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 12:04 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
I know you are not supposed to use part time 4WD on dry pavement,
but...
All other things being equal, if I floor the gas pedal, from a dead
stop, on dry pavement, would I get the same acceleration if the Jeep
was in 4WD-high or in 2WD? Acceleration, not torque or HP, etc
(Am looking for the effect of variable amount of traction on a set
amount of torque.)
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82174 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:41pm
Subject: Re: Training Class
Glad you had fun Nichole, I told you you coulda driven those two
waterfalls;P
And I agree, Jim and crew did a VERY good job organizing this event,
all I did was help out and have some fun. It was really cool to see
the stock Jeeps out on the rocks:D
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> Here's another big thanks to everyone that worked the training
class
> on Saturday. Jim you did a great job organizing the whole thing
and
> all the trainers, you did a great job working with everyone and
> adjusting the various skill levels present. No matter what level
we
> were at I think I can safely say we all learned something! Great
> Job!!
>
> And I also want to thank Nasser for letting me ride along for the
> waterfall (still kicking myself for not trying that one) and
> Intimidator with Scott! That was the coolest!!
>
> This is a great group and this is proven to me everytime I hang out
> and the more people I meet!
>
> Thanks Again!! Happy Jeepin!
>
> Nichole
82175 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:57pm
Subject: need drivers side drop waggy 44 narrow track asap
I am conign down to PHX on Sunday this week to get some other stuff
and need a waggy axle preferably with locking hubs but not necessary
can anyone help me out...Im gonna gut it to fit all on a narrowed hp
44 from a ford.
82176 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
> > All,
> >
> > This is a picture of one of our Hogs that just refused to go down. This
> hog
> > was shot at numerous times. I saw this plane coming in a few hours ago,
> and
> > we were overjoyed to watch it come home and land. The last picture is
one
> > of the pilot (the female). Amazing things are happening here each and
> every
> > day!
> >
> > Lt Herriott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > <<MVC-002F.JPG>> <<MVC-003F.JPG>> <<MVC-004F.JPG>>
<<MVC-005F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-006F.JPG>> <<MVC-007F.JPG>> <<MVC-008F.JPG>> <<MVC-009F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-010F.JPG>> <<MVC-011F.JPG>> <<MVC-012F.JPG>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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82177 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 5:06pm
Subject: RE: OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
Wow, That is quite and impressive display of using up bandwidth. LOL
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike & Karen Acuna [mailto:mkacuna@c...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 5:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT: A-10 Hogs showing what they're made of!!!!
> > All,
> >
> > This is a picture of one of our Hogs that just refused to go down.
> > This
> hog
> > was shot at numerous times. I saw this plane coming in a few hours
> > ago,
> and
> > we were overjoyed to watch it come home and land. The last picture
> > is
one
> > of the pilot (the female). Amazing things are happening here each
> > and
> every
> > day!
> >
> > Lt Herriott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > <<MVC-002F.JPG>> <<MVC-003F.JPG>> <<MVC-004F.JPG>>
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> > > <<MVC-006F.JPG>> <<MVC-007F.JPG>> <<MVC-008F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-009F.JPG>> <<MVC-010F.JPG>> <<MVC-011F.JPG>>
> > > <<MVC-012F.JPG>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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82178 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 5:56pm
Subject: RE: Just got my new Rubicon
Well???
Tell us about it! Color? Options? Automatic or manual???
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2003 3:47 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Just got my new Rubicon
Just brought the new Rubie home. Yikes.
So any easy trail runs coming up? Arrowhead Mall parking lot maybe?
Flex that bad boy out on the speed bumps.
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82179 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Apr 7, 2003 2:39pm
Subject: Re: Acceleration question: 2WD vs 4WD
How about this idea, buy a 98 5.9 LImited ZJ and go like a bat out of hell in all wheel drive :-)
Mike