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81979 From: k7ant <k7ant@f...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:09pm
Subject: Dana 44


Well, I finally got a Dana 44 rear axle with Detroit locker and 4:88
gears with a Lockrite in the Dana 30 front. I still neet to get the
speedo gear changed though as 85 on the speedo is really 60 on the
GPS. I can now drive up the Rim without downshifting as I'm running
around 2400 to 2500 rpm at 60 mph. Now for some 35's.
Thanks to Bill and Mike at 4 Wheelers' Supply.

Bill W



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81980 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:22pm
Subject: Last night's BLM meeting - round 2


Last night's BLM meeting was the second part of the 2-part workshop held
at the Phoenix location. The Black Canyon City location had their second
part the night before.

The meeting went as follows. Following a brief introduction, the entire group
participated in a discussion in which the suggestions from the previous meeting
were clarified. Basically, the BLM needs to know how to interpret the suggestions
that were made because the wording used to capture the original suggestions wasn't
always clear. It seems the BLM decided to make the public provide the clarifications
rather than make assumptions on their own. This is good but only if the right people
are there to defend their suggestions.

The original suggestions have been documented and this documentation is handed
out at the meeting. The suggestions have been organized into specific categories that
partially map to the subjects for which the table discussions were held at the previous
meeting. The "roads and trails" suggestions from the original meeting seems to have
been dispersed into other categories - mostly the "recreation and access" category.

Anyone considering attending any of the remaining meetings, please do so! These
are important meetings to attend as they help ensure our suggestions are interpretted
correctly. It's also a chance to add suggestions that had been made during the previous
meetings but which were omitted from the documentation (and there were some).

Attendance at last night's meeting we lower than for the previous meeting at the Phoenix
location. OHV attandance was also lower. And there were some people in attendance
that weren't at the first meeting (including some annoying SC folks). We need to have
OHV folks in attendance!

-Roger


81981 From: Reid Scholes <azturf@c...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:20pm
Subject: Re: Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)


This is another way to fight axle wrap... the bambar
http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/bambar/
I may try this instead of the typical anti-wrap bar. You should consider
welding the axle tubes to the diff also.

Reid

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)


> Yeah, Like I said, youll eventually need a traction bar. I went
> without one for a few months and was ok, but then the springs started
> to soften up and the wrap got progressively worse. If you dont get
> one you will start breaking yokes on your driveshaft from binding.
>
> They are fairly easy to make, for a simple but effective one you just
> need 1.75" .120wall or bigger tube(10 feet should do), a 3/4 heim and
> tube insert, 8 leaf spring bushings, some 1.5" tube for the bushings
> (2' should do), some 1/4" or thicker plate to make the axle mount and
> a shackle.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > Maybe I meant axel wrap? Argh...help me out here guys, I know you
> > know what I am talking about. : )
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > What about binding??
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>


81982 From: Brian Peletz <big86er@y...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:21pm
Subject: control arm quality


hey all,

I just experienced a good reason to upgrade those
factory control arms. I slid of an ice covered road
and ripped it off when I hit a tree, I will have pics
when I can get them

Brian
97 wrangler

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81983 From: Joe <rolovr@d...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 3:37pm
Subject: Re: GEAR installs


Hello Scott, Here is my home E-mail. If you get a chance to send those pics I would be grateful. Scott Nasser,and flight 7 really enjoyed meeting you all, and I learned allot. I have owned six jeeps since I was 15 years old, and I learned more on this outing then In all of those years. I think I am going with gears and lockers next. but I am still doing the research. The whole family had a blast thanks again

Susan Shikany
Goldfield/Arroyo
Rottweilers Mesa/Apache Junction AZ
480-329-3904
480-986-8375
rottnsue@direcway.com
www.goldfieldrottweilers.com



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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Legge
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:00 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] GEAR installs


I need a place that can install my 4.88's in the front 30 in my TJ prerrably friday after I get off @ 2pm and be done that day (I understand extenuating circumstances though) I want quality gears (ie. richmond precision gear) and install and labor. Who could provide this service at a good price/performance ratio? Most go to rick beer for tires who do we go to for gears after we are done with rick? ;-)

Thanks,
Scott Legge


PS
I dont care to bug the person as to how to install gears. I dont want a class I just want em installed right.

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81984 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:15pm
Subject: RE: Last night's BLM meeting - round 2


Roger,

Thanks for sharing the information. I was not sure what was going to
happen at the 2nd group of meetings....now I know. Sorry to hear that
attendance was down...that was not good....especially if SC is now
showing up. :(

I'll be attending the Prescott meeting on Saturday, 4/12. I hope that
Nicole and Bruce (we car pooled last time) will be able to attend as
well as the Jim, Randy, Rick, Scott, etc.

Stu

Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Last night's BLM meeting - round 2

Last night's BLM meeting was the second part of the 2-part workshop held
at the Phoenix location. The Black Canyon City location had their
second
part the night before.

The meeting went as follows. Following a brief introduction, the entire
group
participated in a discussion in which the suggestions from the previous
meeting
were clarified. Basically, the BLM needs to know how to interpret the
suggestions
that were made because the wording used to capture the original
suggestions wasn't
always clear. It seems the BLM decided to make the public provide the
clarifications
rather than make assumptions on their own. This is good but only if the
right people
are there to defend their suggestions.

The original suggestions have been documented and this documentation is
handed
out at the meeting. The suggestions have been organized into specific
categories that
partially map to the subjects for which the table discussions were held
at the previous
meeting. The "roads and trails" suggestions from the original meeting
seems to have
been dispersed into other categories - mostly the "recreation and
access" category.

Anyone considering attending any of the remaining meetings, please do
so! These
are important meetings to attend as they help ensure our suggestions are
interpretted
correctly. It's also a chance to add suggestions that had been made
during the previous
meetings but which were omitted from the documentation (and there were
some).

Attendance at last night's meeting we lower than for the previous
meeting at the Phoenix
location. OHV attandance was also lower. And there were some people in
attendance
that weren't at the first meeting (including some annoying SC folks).
We need to have
OHV folks in attendance!

-Roger




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81985 From: pnwxjaaron <ridetimeless158@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:42pm
Subject: New baby, new wife, new Jeep stuff=happy Jeeper


Hey all, been a while since i've posted here due to my move back to
Washington state... so i'll start with the really important stuff, I
bought new Jeep parts lol j/k, my wife and I met the first day I got
back here to WA and we haven't been apart since, we just found out
last night she's pregnant, i'm so excited to be a daddy!!!! If you
wanna check out the new stuff i've put on the used to be stock Jeep
and for updates on the babys progress go to www.jeeperscreepers4x4.net

Aaron


81986 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:43pm
Subject: Re: Last night's BLM meeting - round 2


Unfortanately, I will be in Texas that day:( I would have gone last
night, but Ive been real sick the last few days, I really need to
stop eating off the roach coach;) I hope we can still have a good
showing, and I will definitely be at the next one.

Scott Maiden

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Roger,
>
> Thanks for sharing the information. I was not sure what was going
to
> happen at the 2nd group of meetings....now I know. Sorry to hear
that
> attendance was down...that was not good....especially if SC is now
> showing up. :(
>
> I'll be attending the Prescott meeting on Saturday, 4/12. I hope
that
> Nicole and Bruce (we car pooled last time) will be able to attend as
> well as the Jim, Randy, Rick, Scott, etc.
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Last night's BLM meeting - round 2
>
> Last night's BLM meeting was the second part of the 2-part workshop
held
> at the Phoenix location. The Black Canyon City location had their
> second
> part the night before.
>
> The meeting went as follows. Following a brief introduction, the
entire
> group
> participated in a discussion in which the suggestions from the
previous
> meeting
> were clarified. Basically, the BLM needs to know how to interpret
the
> suggestions
> that were made because the wording used to capture the original
> suggestions wasn't
> always clear. It seems the BLM decided to make the public provide
the
> clarifications
> rather than make assumptions on their own. This is good but only
if the
> right people
> are there to defend their suggestions.
>
> The original suggestions have been documented and this
documentation is
> handed
> out at the meeting. The suggestions have been organized into
specific
> categories that
> partially map to the subjects for which the table discussions were
held
> at the previous
> meeting. The "roads and trails" suggestions from the original
meeting
> seems to have
> been dispersed into other categories - mostly the "recreation and
> access" category.
>
> Anyone considering attending any of the remaining meetings, please
do
> so! These
> are important meetings to attend as they help ensure our
suggestions are
> interpretted
> correctly. It's also a chance to add suggestions that had been made
> during the previous
> meetings but which were omitted from the documentation (and there
were
> some).
>
> Attendance at last night's meeting we lower than for the previous
> meeting at the Phoenix
> location. OHV attandance was also lower. And there were some
people in
> attendance
> that weren't at the first meeting (including some annoying SC
folks).
> We need to have
> OHV folks in attendance!
>
> -Roger
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


81987 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:46pm
Subject: Re: White Tanks Sat.


sounds like a plan, how about we meet at the Best Buy across the
street from fiesta? Its on alma school just north of the 60 on the
east side of the road. meet at 7 depart at 7:30???

Scott Maiden

--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...> wrote:
> I'm in on a jeepavan to the white tanks this Sat AM... How bout
posting a
> trip with a departure point about Fiesta Mall ??? Time about 7:00-
7:30 ???
> Bob J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.
>
>
> I'd like to get in on this east side jeep-a-van too! I think Bonnie
> will meet up with us also.... Is there a meeting place yet?
>
> :o) Teresa
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> > Rusty,
> >
> > I'll be leaving around 7:30am. Let me know were you'd like to
meet.
> >
> > Nasser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rustydunmire [mailto:rustydunmire@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks Sat.
> >
> > I was woundering if anyone from the east side was going and what
> > time you were leaving, thought maybe we could run over together.
> >
> > Rusty
> >
> > rustydunmire@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
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81988 From: Jay Freeman <jay@j...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 4:51pm
Subject: OT Is the vgc list down?


Couldn't post this morning.




Thanks,




Jay


81989 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 5:13pm
Subject: [TR] Predator - Sunday, April 6, 2003


Hello All,

Joe Bornkessel is leading a Predator trail run on Sunday, April 6, 2003.

When: Meet at 8:00 A.M.
Where: Dirt parking lot on west side of Table Mesa.
Rating: 4.5+
Length: 5-6 Hours
CB Channel: 4

Will be running Upper Terminator and then probably hit Predator or one of the other trails in the area.

As with many of the Arizona trails, Predator is not long in length, but it definitely doesn't lack anything for the ultimate 4x4 challenge. There are 2 - 4 foot rock ledges; ledges to straddle; rocks to get over or around and there is a good chance to do some body damage.



It is a favorite but does require a fully locked vehicle, lifted and modified and driven by an experienced driver.



It is an all day trail; bring lunch and,of course, plenty of water and your camera.



Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!

Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List

Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website


81990 From: Jeep Girl <jeepgirl73@c...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 5:16pm
Subject: RE: Re: White Tanks Sat.


count me in because I have NO idea where I am going.

Bonnie
"Hail to the Redskins"




-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Jacques [mailto:bjacques@m...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:50 PM
To: 'ajeepgirlinaz'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.


I'm in on a jeepavan to the white tanks this Sat AM... How bout posting a
trip with a departure point about Fiesta Mall ??? Time about 7:00-7:30 ???
Bob J

-----Original Message-----
From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.


I'd like to get in on this east side jeep-a-van too! I think Bonnie
will meet up with us also.... Is there a meeting place yet?

:o) Teresa


--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> Rusty,
>
> I'll be leaving around 7:30am. Let me know were you'd like to meet.
>
> Nasser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rustydunmire [mailto:rustydunmire@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks Sat.
>
> I was woundering if anyone from the east side was going and what
> time you were leaving, thought maybe we could run over together.
>
> Rusty
>
> rustydunmire@m...
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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81991 From: Alfred C Staggs <buyland@c...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 7:07pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3514


The control for your choke isnt working
----- Original Message -----
From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 3514


> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. [TR] Broken Arrow - Saturday, April 5, 2003 - Reminder
> From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> 2. Broken Arrow run Saturday...
> From: "Bill Ragan" <azxjer@h...>
> 3. Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
> From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
> 4. Re: [Tech] 99 Wrangler - SYE installed, yet still vibrating
> From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
> 5. Re: Considering TJ - Darn Yer Hide Joe West!!!!
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> 6. Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> 7. Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> 8. Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> 9. Who to talk to at Darner Parts Dept.
> From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...>
> 10. Re: White Tanks Sat.
> From: "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> 11. [LU] Fwd: OHV Fund
> From: Daver <daver@i...>
> 12. Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
> From: "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...>
> 13. Re: Rough starting YJ
> From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
> 14. Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
> From: cowboy7575@a...
> 15. Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
> From: "rodrake" <rodrake@y...>
> 16. Re: Who to talk to at Darner Parts Dept.
> From: "Dave Kober" <tjsr4r0cks@y...>
> 17. RE: Re: White Tanks Sat.
> From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
> 18. web site
> From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
> 19. Re: web site
> From: "Scott Legge" <slegge1@c...>
> 20. Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> 21. Lectric Fans?
> From: "Phil Thompson" <ablockalypse@y...>
> 22. Dana 44
> From: "k7ant" <k7ant@f...>
> 23. Last night's BLM meeting - round 2
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> 24. Re: Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
> From: "Reid Scholes" <azturf@c...>
> 25. control arm quality
> From: Brian Peletz <big86er@y...>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 13:41:33 (GMT)
> From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Saturday, April 5, 2003 - Reminder
>
>
>
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>
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 13:44:00 -0000
> From: "Bill Ragan" <azxjer@h...>
> Subject: Broken Arrow run Saturday...
>
> Please note. Due to unforseen circumstances, the start time has been
> moved up 1 hour. We'll leave the trailhead around noon.
> Come one, come all...
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 06:34:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
> Subject: Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
>
>
> Hi Nichole,
> Yep you opened up a can of worms. But by doing this it will help you make
a choice which will be most certainly the right run. Always said get your
duckies in order.
> You have many types of lifts to choose from, spring under, spring over,
coil , coil over etc. You need to be careful somewhat do to the narrow
track wheel base.
> As usual I prefer to talk face to face at work or call me on the phone and
I will give you pros and cons on these option.
> Hope to hear from you!
> Barry
> Nichole <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:Alright guys, I need some
suggestions. I can't decide whether I just
> want new springs for my jeep or if I should go all out and do a
> spring over. I have heard just a little about both (good and bad). I
> have put it off long enough.
>
> I have a '78 CJ7 with a V8 (so power is not an issue on the road,
> however this will put more strain on the axels if I'm not mistaken).
> I am planning on purchasing new tires really soon (per my past post
> asking your opinion on that) and was going with 33 MTR's, however I
> had a bug put in my ear to do the spring over and jump to 35's. FYI:
> I use my jeep 90% of the time for rock crawling and the remaining 10%
> playing at the dunes (Thanksgiving).
>
> I would love to hear all the information you could possibly throw at
> me! Facts, personal experience, articles, the works. If I do this I
> will be upgrading A LOT and want to make sure I know all the ins and
> outs before I throw down a bunch of money (I am all too aware of the
> can I am opening, I have prepared myself for a big bill).
>
> I appreciate any input!
>
> Thanks,
> Nichole
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:05:32 -0000
> From: "highjeeps" <highupjeep@q...>
> Subject: Re: [Tech] 99 Wrangler - SYE installed, yet still vibrating
>
> I suppose it is possible that your drive shaft could be out of
> balance. Probably not likely, though, assuming it is brand new.
> Larry
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:06:17 -0000
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> Subject: Re: Considering TJ - Darn Yer Hide Joe West!!!!
>
> Ken,
>
> Why waste you hard-earned money on a new TJ Rubicon when you can buy
> an awesome trail-ready ZJ for a heck of a lot less? ;-) Just kidding!
> Go for it!
>
> Hopefully I will have the ZJ in the SUV Trader soon. Wanna get the
> new motor and stuff for the Willys.
>
> Linda
> 54 Willys Wagon
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...> wrote:
> > While you and I have never met, I have lerked here enough to know
> seem
> > to be held in some esteem by the board, so your advice caught me
> unawares.
> >
> > "If you can afford it; GET THE RUBICON.." you say? Well being
> > naturaully curious about all things Jeep, I do a little research.
> > D44s, not one but 2! Air lockers, not one but two! 64 : 1 crawl
> > ratio out of the box. Hah! I think too good to be true, must drive
> > like hell.
> >
> > So today I take a little test drive (in my best creepy drug dealer
> > voice, "It's OK, just take one hit off the crack pipe, it won't hurt
> > you. Mwahhhaaaahhaaaahaaaa."). OhMyGodIMayBeHooked. Wow.
> >
> > But surely the bank won't give a loan for such a vehicle. Right? I
> > just got off the phone with them: "Would you like us to mail the
> check
> > to you or to the dealership?"
> >
> > Did I mention I am getting it at invoice?
> >
> > How many Rubies are there in the group?
> >
> > Can't....
> >
> > Stop....
> >
> > Twitching.....
> >
> > Must Sit Down.....
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > Kent,
> > >
> > > If you get the D44 rear axle, you get the 3.73 gears. When I
> > purchased my
> > > TJ... I was forced to get the 30 tire package with the Dana 44
> rear
> > axle;
> > > I'm not sure if this is still true. Regardless... whatever you
> do;
> > > definitely get the Dana 44 in the rear. You are correct that the
> newest
> > > transmission is the NV3550 and I'm thinking (but I am not
> absolutely
> > sure)
> > > that the first year for this transmission was 2000.
> > >
> > > There are TONS of TJ resource pages... just do a google search for
> > TJ and
> > > you will be overwhelmed. Our own Chris Krieg and Stu Olson have
> great
> > > pages...
> > >
> > > The auto transmission is a preference thing... if you like
> > automatics; get
> > > it. If you like to shift; get the manual. I personally prefer
> the
> > manual
> > > transmission... but plenty of people like automatics.
> > >
> > > Pearls of wisdom:
> > >
> > > Make sure your rig has the following options:
> > >
> > > Dana 44 rear axle
> > > Air conditioning
> > >
> > > Don't waste your money on the Sahara package.
> > >
> > > If you can afford it; GET THE RUBICON... it IS by and large; the
> > absolute
> > > best of all worlds... you CANNOT build a rig like the Rubicon for
> > less money
> > > than the Rubicon costs (assuming you can get the Rubicon at
> invoice).
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:01 AM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Considering getting a TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I am considering getting a TJ pretty soon, to be a light trail
> > > wheeler/daily driver. It's not that I don't love my CJ, but I
> would
> > > like to actually go on a trail run every now and then, instead of
> sit
> > > in the garage and try and put the CJ back together.
> > >
> > > Don't know much about TJs though, so I have a couple questions.
> Is
> > > the D44 rear axle part of a package or a stand alone option? Does
> > > the trailer towing package get you 3.73 gears? Someone told that
> the
> > > 5 speed that is used now is a NV3550, what year did they start
> > > putting those in. Any TJ resource pages? Is the auto that is
> > > offered any good? Does it have an overdirve? Any other pearls of
> > > wisdom?
> > >
> > > Thanx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:23:32 -0000
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> Subject: Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
>
> Wow that is a lot to soak in! Thanks for all the info. and I may
> just take you up on that offer to help! I'm no mechanic and wouldn't
> know where to start but I definitely want to do the work myself so I
> can learn how to do these things. I don't weld though, someone tried
> to teach me and it got ugly. Lot's of practice required in that area!
>
> And your right, those 60's will definitely have to wait. I don't
> want to have to take out a loan! : )
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > Hey Nichole,
> >
> > Here is my experience from jumping in over my head and going SOA
> when
> > everyone said I shouldnt(couple years ago), while this is all on a
> > YJ, most of it still applies to yuor jeep. Ill start by sayin soa
> is
> > awesome. Right now I am sitting on stock wrangler rear 5 leaf packs
> > with an addtl main leaf, and it flexes and wheels great.
> >
> > Here is what I did, I just get the RE spring perches weld them on
> top
> > of the axle, leave the fronts parrallel to the old ones but the
> rears
> > you will need to tilt up for pinion angle. With a CV shaft, you
> will
> > want to point it 1-2 degrees below the t-case output. For
> brakelines,
> > talk to Barry at 4 wheelers to get the right parts, he gave me a
> > great idea and that is to run a single softline to the center of
> the
> > axle, then run hardlines to the sides, then softlines to the
> > calipers, sort of like the rear is done from the factory on
> vehicles
> > with rear discs. This allows the use of stock parts since the
> center
> > of the axle doesnt droop out near as much as the outsides do, it
> also
> > keeps the brakelines out of the tires:). For shock mounts I used F-
> > 250 Shock towers up front(Idea courtesy Steve Meyer) and the little
> > stud that comes with ranchos for the bottom with Rancho 9012's in
> frt
> > and in the rear I run 9112's with the same bottom mounts as the
> front
> > and M.O.R.E upper shock extenders. Boomerang Shackles all the way
> > around. Oh yeah, you will definitely need a traction bar
> eventually.
> > I had John at Hunter Offroad make one and it worked great. As far
> as
> > steering issues, Im not sure what the CJ guys are doing about
> that??
> > I dont know if the springs would hit the draglink or not, you may
> > have to get some Dana 44 knuckles and go hi-steer. And if you step
> up
> > to 35s, youll at least want to get one piece shafts for the rear
> and
> > get the upgraded shafts for the front that use the 297x joint, or
> you
> > could swap in some 60s like I did:), but I dont think you prepared
> > yourself for that big of a bill!!
> >
> > Here are a few links to get the gears turnin.
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/jefe/
> >
> > http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/SOA/yjomesoa.htm
> >
> > http://jeepskate.4x4.org/SOA.htm
> >
> > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/
> >
> > Oh, and when you decide to do it,(I know you will:P) Id be glad to
> > help out with the project.
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > Alright guys, I need some suggestions. I can't decide whether I
> > just
> > > want new springs for my jeep or if I should go all out and do a
> > > spring over. I have heard just a little about both (good and
> bad).
> > I
> > > have put it off long enough.
> > >
> > > I have a '78 CJ7 with a V8 (so power is not an issue on the road,
> > > however this will put more strain on the axels if I'm not
> > mistaken).
> > > I am planning on purchasing new tires really soon (per my past
> post
> > > asking your opinion on that) and was going with 33 MTR's, however
> I
> > > had a bug put in my ear to do the spring over and jump to 35's.
> > FYI:
> > > I use my jeep 90% of the time for rock crawling and the remaining
> > 10%
> > > playing at the dunes (Thanksgiving).
> > >
> > > I would love to hear all the information you could possibly throw
> > at
> > > me! Facts, personal experience, articles, the works. If I do
> this
> > I
> > > will be upgrading A LOT and want to make sure I know all the ins
> > and
> > > outs before I throw down a bunch of money (I am all too aware of
> > the
> > > can I am opening, I have prepared myself for a big bill).
> > >
> > > I appreciate any input!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nichole
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:28:04 -0000
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> Subject: Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds back on jeeps!
; )~
>
> What about binding??
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...> wrote:
> > SOA also gives you a nice cadillac ride. A spring under lift will
> ride
> > rougher than stock.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Maiden [mailto:bermboy@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:26 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: I need Lift!! This is on topic, get your minds
> > back on jeeps! ; )~
> >
> >
> > Hey Nichole,
> >
> > Here is my experience from jumping in over my head and going SOA
> when
> > everyone said I shouldnt(couple years ago), while this is all on a
> > YJ, most of it still applies to yuor jeep. Ill start by sayin soa is
> > awesome. Right now I am sitting on stock wrangler rear 5 leaf packs
> > with an addtl main leaf, and it flexes and wheels great.
> >
> > Here is what I did, I just get the RE spring perches weld them on
> top
> > of the axle, leave the fronts parrallel to the old ones but the
> rears
> > you will need to tilt up for pinion angle. With a CV shaft, you will
> > want to point it 1-2 degrees below the t-case output. For
> brakelines,
> > talk to Barry at 4 wheelers to get the right parts, he gave me a
> > great idea and that is to run a single softline to the center of the
> > axle, then run hardlines to the sides, then softlines to the
> > calipers, sort of like the rear is done from the factory on vehicles
> > with rear discs. This allows the use of stock parts since the center
> > of the axle doesnt droop out near as much as the outsides do, it
> also
> > keeps the brakelines out of the tires:). For shock mounts I used F-
> > 250 Shock towers up front(Idea courtesy Steve Meyer) and the little
> > stud that comes with ranchos for the bottom with Rancho 9012's in
> frt
> > and in the rear I run 9112's with the same bottom mounts as the
> front
> > and M.O.R.E upper shock extenders. Boomerang Shackles all the way
> > around. Oh yeah, you will definitely need a traction bar
> eventually.
> > I had John at Hunter Offroad make one and it worked great. As far as
> > steering issues, Im not sure what the CJ guys are doing about that??
> > I dont know if the springs would hit the draglink or not, you may
> > have to get some Dana 44 knuckles and go hi-steer. And if you step
> up
> > to 35s, youll at least want to get one piece shafts for the rear and
> > get the upgraded shafts for the front that use the 297x joint, or
> you
> > could swap in some 60s like I did:), but I dont think you prepared
> > yourself for that big of a bill!!
> >
> > Here are a few links to get the gears turnin.
> >
> > http://homepage.mac.com/jefe/
> >
> > http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/SOA/yjomesoa.htm
> >
> > http://jeepskate.4x4.org/SOA.htm
> >
> > http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/
> >
> > Oh, and when you decide to do it,(I know you will:P) Id be glad to
> > help out with the project.
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > Alright guys, I need some suggestions. I can't decide whether I
> > just
> > > want new springs for my jeep or if I should go all out and do a
> > > spring over. I have heard just a little about both (good and
> bad).
> > I
> > > have put it off long enough.
> > >
> > > I have a '78 CJ7 with a V8 (so power is not an issue on the road,
> > > however this will put more strain on the axels if I'm not
> > mistaken).
> > > I am planning on purchasing new tires really soon (per my past
> post
> > > asking your opinion on that) and was going with 33 MTR's, however
> I
> > > had a bug put in my ear to do the spring over and jump to 35's.
> > FYI:
> > > I use my jeep 90% of the time for rock crawling and the remaining
> > 10%
> > > playing at the dunes (Thanksgiving).
> > >
> > > I would love to hear all the information you could possibly throw
> > at
> > > me! Facts, personal experience, articles, the works. If I do
> this
> > I
> > > will be upgrading A LOT and want to make sure I know all the ins
> > and
> > > outs before I throw down a bunch of money (I am all too aware of
> > the
> > > can I am opening, I have prepared myself for a big bill).
> > >
> > > I appreciate any input!
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Nichole
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 15:40:39 -0000
> From: "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...>
> Subject: Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
>
> Maybe I meant axel wrap? Argh...help me out here guys, I know you
> know what I am talking about. : )
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > What about binding??
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:24:31 -0000
> From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...>
> Subject: Who to talk to at Darner Parts Dept.
>
> i need to get some parts for my jeep, who do i talk to get the good
> guy price? thanks.
>
> nick l.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:47:52 -0000
> From: "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
> Subject: Re: White Tanks Sat.
>
> I'd like to get in on this east side jeep-a-van too! I think Bonnie
> will meet up with us also.... Is there a meeting place yet?
>
> :o) Teresa
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> > Rusty,
> >
> > I'll be leaving around 7:30am. Let me know were you'd like to meet.
> >
> > Nasser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rustydunmire [mailto:rustydunmire@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks Sat.
> >
> > I was woundering if anyone from the east side was going and what
> > time you were leaving, thought maybe we could run over together.
> >
> > Rusty
> >
> > rustydunmire@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 09:58:51 -0700
> From: Daver <daver@i...>
> Subject: [LU] Fwd: OHV Fund
>
>
> >X-Envelope-To: <daver@i...>
> >X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2
> >Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 09:25:51 -0700
> >From: "Mary Bryan" <MBryan@l...>
> >To: <tomasr@a...>, <Niitoyis@a...>, <jeepinaz@c...>,
> > <Jstewart@c...>, <4critter@f...>, <daver@i...>,
> > <Jeff.Trujillo@m...>, <JHraya@m...>,
<hackle@q...>,
> > <Solson8@q...>, <sonorancj@q...>
> >Subject: OHV Fund
> >
> >The Land Department has received many e-mails and letters from citizens
> >and interested groups expressing support for continuing the OHV
> >program. The Program exists under the Arizona State Parks Board and is
> >funded from the motor vehicle fuels tax. The purpose of the program is to
> >plan, administer, and enforce off-highway vehicle recreation, and to
> >develop facilities consistent with the off-highway vehicle plan. The
> >program affects US Forest Service land, BLM land, State Trust land and
> >private land. Seventy percent of the monies collected are to be used by
> >the Arizona State Parks Board for planning, administration, and
facilities
> >development and the remainder is transferred to the Arizona Game and Fish
> >Department for enforcement and education. The State Parks Board has
funded
> >grants and inter-governmental projects to fulfill its statutory role.
The
> >State Land Department is just one of several agencies involved in the OHV
> >program and has received funds through interagency service
> >agreements from the Parks Board to fund a position to work on OHV
issues
> >on State Trust land and to conduct trail inventories. The three year
> >agreement that funds the position was scheduled to end June 30, 2003.
> >
> >In an effort to address budget shortfalls, the Legislature authorized
the
> >State Parks Board to use up to $692,100 in FY2003 of OHV funds to offset
> >agency operating costs. In addition, the Legislature in the latest
> >Special Session transferred $4,000,000 from the OHV Fund to the General
> >Fund. The State Parks Board addressed this Legislative directive at its
> >meeting on March 20th 2003 and suspended all contracts relating to the
OHV
> >program. In a follow-up letter to all grant and inter-governmental
> >agreement recipients, the State Land Department was informed that its
> >ISA's would terminate on May 5, 2003, and that the Department must return
> >any unexpended money to the State Parks Board. We were extremely
> >disappointed by this action.
> >
> >Although the OHV program is a State Parks program, the State Land
> >Department is supportive of the program and is appreciative of the many
> >benefits that accrue to State Trust lands as a result of the program.
The
> >Land Department has been actively trying to convince the State Parks
> >Board to continue our ISA for the position and to find a solution to the
> >immediate funding problem. However, with the magnitude of the budget
cuts
> >to the OHV Fund and to the agency budgets, State Parks Board has not been
> >able to find any reasonable solutions in the short term to save the
program.
> >
> >The Land Department shares your concern about the cessation of this
> >program and acknowledges the damage that will occur to State Trust lands
> >if the program is discontinued. Because of the tremendous work performed
> >by our employee, Tammy Pike, many people are under the false impression
> >that the OHV program is a Land Department Program. Unfortunately, the
OHV
> >program is not a Land Department program and the Land Department has no
> >ability to fund or operate the program on its own. Despite this the Land
> >Department has spent a great deal of time trying to find a solution to
> >keep the program in effect to some extent. Unfortunately, we have not
> >found a wholly satisfactory solution.
> >
> >At this time the best solution appears to be attempting to temporarily
> >fund the Land Department's position through an inter-governmental
> >agreement with the Bureau of Land Management that is supported in part
> >through private donations. These donations must go through BLM or
another
> >agency as the Land Department does not have the appropriation authority
to
> >accept donations directly. We are hopeful that the State Parks
> >Department and our State Legislature will be able to find a long term
> >solution to restore the OHV program. The Land Department will continue
to
> >be supportive of such efforts.
> >
> >In any event, the Land Department will continue to issue permits for OHV
> >access on State Trust Land. We appreciate your concern and hope a
> >solution can be found. Your concerns and ideas would be best shared to
> >the State Parks Board and the members of the State legislature. If for
> >any reason you have any additional issues for the State Land Department,
> >please feel free to contact Bill Dowdle at 542-2692 or e-mail him at
> >wdowdle@l.... Thank you again for your concern.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 11:45:22 -0700
> From: "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...>
> Subject: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
>
> My ZJ just started this problem, when I first start it in
> the morning, it starts and then immediately dies. If you
> keep the revs up, it will continue to run but as soon as you
> let off it dies again. It will do this until it gets warmed
> up and then it runs OK.
>
> I have:
>
> 1. Had the battery and charging system checked
> - OK.
> 2. The computer shows no errors.
> 3. Full tank of gas.
> 4. I tried disconnecting the battery for an
> hour and it then starts up OK, but not sure if
> that is only because it warmed up earlier.
> 5. It is currently at the dealer and they can't
> figure it out either?
>
> Thought with all the expertise from this club, someone would
> know. Anybody got any ideas?
>
> Please respond to me directly (too), as my Yahoo is not
> working (but that's another story) :o)
> TIA
>
> Bob
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 11:00:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
> Subject: Re: Rough starting YJ
>
>
> Well Its all fixed.
> It was just the Spark plug wires!
> Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
>
> Smitty
>
> casper <casper@c...> wrote:Smitty, Most hard to start or
not starting problems are the result of the CPS going bad. You might want to
check this and the wiring to the CPS. Hope this helps, Casper----- Original
Message ----- From: Smitty To: AZVJC Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:13
PMSubject: [az_vjc] Rough starting YJ
>
> I need some help here..
>
> My 95 YJ 2.5L, has begun to act up. It is very hard to start. It will
crank but it will not fire right off. Sometimes it will take five minutes to
get it to fire. I just changed the Distributor cap and rotor to see if that
was it. but it is still doing it. I checked the spark plugs (Bosch Platinum)
they look fine but they are over a year old. My next step is going to be new
Sparkplug wires. Am I heading in the right direction. Could it be a Fuel
pump? Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Smitty
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:27:57 EST
> From: cowboy7575@a...
> Subject: Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
>
> I have the same problem with my 96 with a 5.2 and my 98 5.9......drives me
> nuts and the stealership doesnt know wny
>
> Mike
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 19:49:01 -0000
> From: "rodrake" <rodrake@y...>
> Subject: Re: Tech Question 96 ZJ, V8
>
> I had a similar problem with my 97. Check the IAC solenoid. It is
> mounted on the back of the throttle body. The solenoid controls idle
> speed when the engine is cold by opening a port on the throttle
> body. If it is sticking or failing closed, the engine will die.
> Start by making sure the port and solenoid are clean. You can get a
> replacement from Pep Boys or any of the local parts stores.
>
> Rich
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, cowboy7575@a... wrote:
> > I have the same problem with my 96 with a 5.2 and my 98
> 5.9......drives me
> > nuts and the stealership doesnt know wny
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
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> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 19:49:20 -0000
> From: "Dave Kober" <tjsr4r0cks@y...>
> Subject: Re: Who to talk to at Darner Parts Dept.
>
> Anyone at the parts counter. Just tell them AZVJC BEFORE they write
> it up.
>
> Dave
> 99 TJ
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...>
> wrote:
> > i need to get some parts for my jeep, who do i talk to get the good
> > guy price? thanks.
> >
> > nick l.
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 12:49:44 -0700
> From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
> Subject: RE: Re: White Tanks Sat.
>
> I'm in on a jeepavan to the white tanks this Sat AM... How bout posting
a
> trip with a departure point about Fiesta Mall ??? Time about 7:00-7:30
???
> Bob J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.
>
>
> I'd like to get in on this east side jeep-a-van too! I think Bonnie
> will meet up with us also.... Is there a meeting place yet?
>
> :o) Teresa
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> > Rusty,
> >
> > I'll be leaving around 7:30am. Let me know were you'd like to meet.
> >
> > Nasser
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rustydunmire [mailto:rustydunmire@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:04 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks Sat.
> >
> > I was woundering if anyone from the east side was going and what
> > time you were leaving, thought maybe we could run over together.
> >
> > Rusty
> >
> > rustydunmire@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:49:18 -0700
> From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
> Subject: web site
>
> Web site down?
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
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> Message: 19
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 13:54:39 -0700
> From: "Scott Legge" <slegge1@c...>
> Subject: Re: web site
>
> yup
> no trails for me this wekend :'( hehe
>
> Scott Legge
>
>
>
>
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> From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
> To: "Jeep" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] web site
>
>
> > Web site down?
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Joe-CJ7@J...
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 20
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 21:51:41 -0000
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> Subject: Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
>
> Yeah, Like I said, youll eventually need a traction bar. I went
> without one for a few months and was ok, but then the springs started
> to soften up and the wrap got progressively worse. If you dont get
> one you will start breaking yokes on your driveshaft from binding.
>
> They are fairly easy to make, for a simple but effective one you just
> need 1.75" .120wall or bigger tube(10 feet should do), a 3/4 heim and
> tube insert, 8 leaf spring bushings, some 1.5" tube for the bushings
> (2' should do), some 1/4" or thicker plate to make the axle mount and
> a shackle.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > Maybe I meant axel wrap? Argh...help me out here guys, I know you
> > know what I am talking about. : )
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > What about binding??
>
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 22:17:44 -0000
> From: "Phil Thompson" <ablockalypse@y...>
> Subject: Lectric Fans?
>
> Anybody running Hyperlite et al electric fans? How do they hold up
> out here in the summer with AC? Any gains in horse power or gas
> mileage? Seams ideal since we have very few water crossings out here,
> but how do they handle rockcrawling?
>
> Thanks for you opinion.
> Phil
>
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 23:09:01 -0000
> From: "k7ant" <k7ant@f...>
> Subject: Dana 44
>
> Well, I finally got a Dana 44 rear axle with Detroit locker and 4:88
> gears with a Lockrite in the Dana 30 front. I still neet to get the
> speedo gear changed though as 85 on the speedo is really 60 on the
> GPS. I can now drive up the Rim without downshifting as I'm running
> around 2400 to 2500 rpm at 60 mph. Now for some 35's.
> Thanks to Bill and Mike at 4 Wheelers' Supply.
>
> Bill W
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 16:22:19 -0700
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> Subject: Last night's BLM meeting - round 2
>
> Last night's BLM meeting was the second part of the 2-part workshop held
> at the Phoenix location. The Black Canyon City location had their second
> part the night before.
>
> The meeting went as follows. Following a brief introduction, the entire
group
> participated in a discussion in which the suggestions from the previous
meeting
> were clarified. Basically, the BLM needs to know how to interpret the
suggestions
> that were made because the wording used to capture the original
suggestions wasn't
> always clear. It seems the BLM decided to make the public provide the
clarifications
> rather than make assumptions on their own. This is good but only if the
right people
> are there to defend their suggestions.
>
> The original suggestions have been documented and this documentation is
handed
> out at the meeting. The suggestions have been organized into specific
categories that
> partially map to the subjects for which the table discussions were held at
the previous
> meeting. The "roads and trails" suggestions from the original meeting
seems to have
> been dispersed into other categories - mostly the "recreation and access"
category.
>
> Anyone considering attending any of the remaining meetings, please do so!
These
> are important meetings to attend as they help ensure our suggestions are
interpretted
> correctly. It's also a chance to add suggestions that had been made
during the previous
> meetings but which were omitted from the documentation (and there were
some).
>
> Attendance at last night's meeting we lower than for the previous meeting
at the Phoenix
> location. OHV attandance was also lower. And there were some people in
attendance
> that weren't at the first meeting (including some annoying SC folks). We
need to have
> OHV folks in attendance!
>
> -Roger
>
>
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 16:20:59 -0700
> From: "Reid Scholes" <azturf@c...>
> Subject: Re: Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
>
> This is another way to fight axle wrap... the bambar
> http://www.jeepaholics.com/tech/bambar/
> I may try this instead of the typical anti-wrap bar. You should consider
> welding the axle tubes to the diff also.
>
> Reid
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 2:51 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: I need Lift!! (Ooops?)
>
>
> > Yeah, Like I said, youll eventually need a traction bar. I went
> > without one for a few months and was ok, but then the springs started
> > to soften up and the wrap got progressively worse. If you dont get
> > one you will start breaking yokes on your driveshaft from binding.
> >
> > They are fairly easy to make, for a simple but effective one you just
> > need 1.75" .120wall or bigger tube(10 feet should do), a 3/4 heim and
> > tube insert, 8 leaf spring bushings, some 1.5" tube for the bushings
> > (2' should do), some 1/4" or thicker plate to make the axle mount and
> > a shackle.
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > Maybe I meant axel wrap? Argh...help me out here guys, I know you
> > > know what I am talking about. : )
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nichole" <cj7wheelin@h...> wrote:
> > > > What about binding??
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 25
> Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2003 15:21:29 -0800 (PST)
> From: Brian Peletz <big86er@y...>
> Subject: control arm quality
>
> hey all,
>
> I just experienced a good reason to upgrade those
> factory control arms. I slid of an ice covered road
> and ripped it off when I hit a tree, I will have pics
> when I can get them
>
> Brian
> 97 wrangler
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81992 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 7:38pm
Subject: [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, April 5, 2003


Hello All,

Nasser Pirshafiey is leading a Technical Workshop trail run on Saturday, April 5, 2003.

When: Meet at 7:00 am and depart at 7:30 am sharp
Where: Best Buy parking lot across (east) from the fiesta Mall

Alma School Road just north of the 60 Freeway
Rating: 2.0-
Length: 1 hour 15 minutes
CB Channel: 4

East siders meeting spot to caravan to the White Tanks Technical workshop

Technical workshops happen every once in a while and are intended as a "How To" class.

Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List

Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website


81993 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 7:38pm
Subject: [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, April 5, 2003 - Reminder


Hello All,

Nasser Pirshafiey is leading a Technical Workshop trail run on Saturday, April 5, 2003.

When: Meet at 7:00 am and depart at 7:30 am sharp
Where: Best Buy parking lot across (east) from the fiesta Mall

Alma School Road just north of the 60 Freeway
Rating: 2.0-
Length: 1 hour 15 minutes
CB Channel: 4

East siders meeting spot to caravan to the White Tanks Technical workshop

Technical workshops happen every once in a while and are intended as a "How To" class.

Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List

Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website


81994 From: Nasser <nasser88@c...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 7:48pm
Subject: RE: Re: White Tanks Sat.


Hi folks,

I just posted a run to caravan to the White Tanks tomorrow morning. Meet at
Best Buys parking lot (across from the Fiesta Mall) at 7:00 am and depart at
7:30 am

See ya'll there,

Nasser


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeep Girl [mailto:jeepgirl73@c...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:16 PM
To: Bob Jacques; 'ajeepgirlinaz'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.

count me in because I have NO idea where I am going.

Bonnie
"Hail to the Redskins"




-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Jacques [mailto:bjacques@m...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 12:50 PM
To: 'ajeepgirlinaz'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.


I'm in on a jeepavan to the white tanks this Sat AM... How bout posting a
trip with a departure point about Fiesta Mall ??? Time about 7:00-7:30 ???
Bob J

-----Original Message-----
From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 9:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White Tanks Sat.


I'd like to get in on this east side jeep-a-van too! I think Bonnie
will meet up with us also.... Is there a meeting place yet?

:o) Teresa


--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> Rusty,
>
> I'll be leaving around 7:30am. Let me know were you'd like to meet.
>
> Nasser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rustydunmire [mailto:rustydunmire@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:04 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks Sat.
>
> I was woundering if anyone from the east side was going and what
> time you were leaving, thought maybe we could run over together.
>
> Rusty
>
> rustydunmire@m...
>
>
>
>
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81995 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: [TR] Sunflower Mine Loop - Saturday, April 5, 2003 - Reminder


Hello All,

Brad Rogers is leading a Sunflower Mine Loop trail run on Saturday, April 5, 2003.

When: 8:00am Meet at last gas station on Hwy. 87 heading towards Payson; across from Casino (just past Fountain Hills)
Where: SunFlower Mine Loop
Rating: 3.5-
Length: Most of the day
CB Channel: 4

We had such a good trip the first time I just thought it would be fun to take a group up. Great adventure trip where you can try out your rock gaurds as well as your camera skills. If the creek is flowing your in for a wet ride, as well as some mine discovery. I believe we checked out 6 mines that were at least 100 yds long each, so bring a spot light because a flash light just doesn't cut it. Also bring some sandwiches because the trip can take a while if your into the mine thing.

The Sunflower Mine Loop is a fun trail that offers a little something for everyone. It takes 3 – 4 hours to complete allowing for time to poke around and explore. The loop starts as an easy 2.5 trail that winds along a hillside and slowly descends into the canyon. After crossing a bridge you continue up the canyon until you arrive at the Sunflower Mine site. The mine’s processing building is still standing and is in decent shape. Stock vehicles can make this section of the loop easily, however the next section requires higher ground clearance and aggressive tires.



After leaving the mine the trails continues up a shady canyon becoming more tight and challenging as it runs across and up a rocky creek bed. The bed is usually dry but can be very slippery when water is running. After awhile you make a hard right turn up a steep rock wall obstacle and continue to climb a loose rocky road out of the canyon and into the pines and junipers. At the top the trail continues with some washed out sections, passes a couple of more mine shafts, and gradually becomes easier as you return to the loops starting point.



Remember to pack water, a lunch, and bring your camera.



Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!

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Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website


81996 From: tj_angel_113 <angel_113_@h...>
Date: Fri Apr 4, 2003 10:34pm
Subject: Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries


I have a line on getting some Yellow Optima top batteries at a very
good price. I believe this is the battery you want for winching and
all your other Jeep needs. I'm hoping to be able to sell them for
about $100 or so each. Plus no shipping costs--pick up in Tempe
only. Please e-mail me if you are interested so I can know how much
interest there is here.

Thanks,

Angel



P.S. is it OK to present this idea to the group?? I am only doing
this for this Jeep Club because I thought I could pass on a good
deal to everyone here. Please delete this post if it considered
spam.


81997 From: jcteel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 0:09am
Subject: Re: [Tech] 99 Wrangler - SYE installed, yet still vibrating


Ryan,

You might also check and see if the remaining vibration is from the
front end being out of alignment or possibly tires not being
balanced. One way to find out for sure if the vibration is from the
driveshaft is to remove the drive shaft (should be really easy to do)
and then simply take it for a drive in 4H so that it's now front-
wheel drive. If it still vibrates then it has to be something else.

Also as far as measuring driveshaft angles (or any angle for that
matter) if you don't have the angle finder that Scott mentioned you
can calculate the angle easy enough with just a ruler and maybe a
level (for improved accuracy) and just a little basic geometry. If
your interested and don't know how to do this then let me know and
I'll explain it (it's really easy).

Personally, I would just remove the rear driveshaft and see if that
solves the problem since you very well could have two vibration
sources.

John



--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>


81998 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 6:46am
Subject: MS White Grand Cherokee


The wife had her first member sighting on here own white GC heading west on the 101 You both exchanged waves… She has her own GC & now paying more attention to other jeeps instead of the road
THANKS RICK BEER



81999 From: BradP Kilgore <brad.kilgore@p...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 7:25am
Subject: RE: Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries


Many people are too sensative, this is what the group is for.

Count me in, I may even get two.

Brad

-----Original Message-----
From: tj_angel_113 [mailto:angel_113_@h...]
Sent: Fri 4/4/2003 11:34 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [az_vjc] Possible group buy on Yellow Top Optima batteries



I have a line on getting some Yellow Optima top batteries at a very
good price. I believe this is the battery you want for winching and
all your other Jeep needs. I'm hoping to be able to sell them for
about $100 or so each. Plus no shipping costs--pick up in Tempe
only. Please e-mail me if you are interested so I can know how much
interest there is here.

Thanks,

Angel



P.S. is it OK to present this idea to the group?? I am only doing
this for this Jeep Club because I thought I could pass on a good
deal to everyone here. Please delete this post if it considered
spam.




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82000 From: Shaun Girard <spgirard30@c...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 11:00am
Subject: AXLE HELP


CAN ANYONE ID THIS AXLE BY LOOKING AT IT

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82001 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 11:25am
Subject: RE: AXLE HELP


I'll take a stab at it... high pinion Dana 44 (assuming it is in the crate upside down)?

Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Girard [mailto:spgirard30@cox.net]
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] AXLE HELP


CAN ANYONE ID THIS AXLE BY LOOKING AT IT

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82002 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 11:34am
Subject: RE: Re: Considering TJ - Darn Yer Hide Joe West!!!!


Hi Kent,

Sorry man... I couldn't help giving you the advise that many of us would
have taken had the Rubicon been available when we purchased our rigs... I
honestly believe that you just purchased the most off-the-shelf capable
off-road vehicle available anywhere in the world (or of course, I could be
extremely biased <grin>)
So now... if you end up getting the Rubicon; you must bring it over to my
place so I can take a look at it and you can purchase some stickers (or
magnets) to display your club pride.
If you do get it... give me a call (602) 616-0785.

Kind Regards,

Joe West




-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:35 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Considering TJ - Darn Yer Hide Joe West!!!!


While you and I have never met, I have lerked here enough to know seem
to be held in some esteem by the board, so your advice caught me unawares.

"If you can afford it; GET THE RUBICON.." you say? Well being
naturaully curious about all things Jeep, I do a little research.
D44s, not one but 2! Air lockers, not one but two! 64 : 1 crawl
ratio out of the box. Hah! I think too good to be true, must drive
like hell.

So today I take a little test drive (in my best creepy drug dealer
voice, "It's OK, just take one hit off the crack pipe, it won't hurt
you. Mwahhhaaaahhaaaahaaaa."). OhMyGodIMayBeHooked. Wow.

But surely the bank won't give a loan for such a vehicle. Right? I
just got off the phone with them: "Would you like us to mail the check
to you or to the dealership?"

Did I mention I am getting it at invoice?

How many Rubies are there in the group?

Can't....

Stop....

Twitching.....

Must Sit Down.....


--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Kent,
>
> If you get the D44 rear axle, you get the 3.73 gears. When I
purchased my
> TJ... I was forced to get the 30 tire package with the Dana 44 rear
axle;
> I'm not sure if this is still true. Regardless... whatever you do;
> definitely get the Dana 44 in the rear. You are correct that the newest
> transmission is the NV3550 and I'm thinking (but I am not absolutely
sure)
> that the first year for this transmission was 2000.
>
> There are TONS of TJ resource pages... just do a google search for
TJ and
> you will be overwhelmed. Our own Chris Krieg and Stu Olson have great
> pages...
>
> The auto transmission is a preference thing... if you like
automatics; get
> it. If you like to shift; get the manual. I personally prefer the
manual
> transmission... but plenty of people like automatics.
>
> Pearls of wisdom:
>
> Make sure your rig has the following options:
>
> Dana 44 rear axle
> Air conditioning
>
> Don't waste your money on the Sahara package.
>
> If you can afford it; GET THE RUBICON... it IS by and large; the
absolute
> best of all worlds... you CANNOT build a rig like the Rubicon for
less money
> than the Rubicon costs (assuming you can get the Rubicon at invoice).
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 9:01 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Considering getting a TJ
>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I am considering getting a TJ pretty soon, to be a light trail
> wheeler/daily driver. It's not that I don't love my CJ, but I would
> like to actually go on a trail run every now and then, instead of sit
> in the garage and try and put the CJ back together.
>
> Don't know much about TJs though, so I have a couple questions. Is
> the D44 rear axle part of a package or a stand alone option? Does
> the trailer towing package get you 3.73 gears? Someone told that the
> 5 speed that is used now is a NV3550, what year did they start
> putting those in. Any TJ resource pages? Is the auto that is
> offered any good? Does it have an overdirve? Any other pearls of
> wisdom?
>
> Thanx
>
>
>
>
>
>
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82003 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat Apr 5, 2003 11:42am
Subject: Anyone tried to get 37" BFG Krawler T/A yet?


I just stopped by Discount Tire to see if they had these yet and their
list price is $475.00 (thereabouts) per tire! (although they said they
would match any price including internet). It looks like they are
going the way of the GY MTRs ... will have to wait a year to get down
to $250 or so. Anyone else get a price yet?

Larry