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81800 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:06pm
Subject: [TR] Box Canyon - Wednesday, April 9, 2003
Hello All,
Mike Hiett is leading a Box Canyon trail run on Wednesday, April 9, 2003.
When: Wednesday the 9th of April
Where: T.B.A.
Rating: 3.0
Length: 1/2 to 3/4 of a day
CB Channel: 4
I'll be taking a friend from work up Box canyon and maybe up jackhandle or up to the Martinez area depending on how everyone feels.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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81801 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
Speaking of the Harbor Freight jacks... the long frame floor jack is
on sale for $100 right now... usually $150! I'm pissed because I
just replaced my floor jack a month ago! heh heh -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit
your needs.
> The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the
bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting
pad area.
> If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5)
ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they
aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton
floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you
need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow
your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
>
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joey Martinez
> To: jeepclub
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
>
>
> k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands
and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto
parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
>
> 94xjoe
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
81802 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Re: hydraulic floor jack
FYI: Costco also has a nice 3 or 3.5 ton floor jack for $69.
HTH
Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: hydraulic floor jack
> Speaking of the Harbor Freight jacks... the long frame floor jack is
> on sale for $100 right now... usually $150! I'm pissed because I
> just replaced my floor jack a month ago! heh heh -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit
> your needs.
> > The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the
> bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting
> pad area.
> > If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5)
> ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they
> aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton
> floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you
> need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow
> your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
> >
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joey Martinez
> > To: jeepclub
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
> >
> >
> > k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands
> and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto
> parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
> >
> > 94xjoe
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81803 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:48pm
Subject: RE: hydraulic floor jack
it should be at any of them, the sale ends on sat. the original price i think was $36.00
94xjoe
81804 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:03pm
Subject: [OT] Web site questions
I have a friend that wants me to set up her web site and that is not the
issue I have. She wants a shopping cart and checkout also on the website.
I know that is not a lot of information but if anyone has any questions to
get some more information please ask.
Can anyone give me information from what they know (off list) about setting
this up. Good ideas and bad ones so I do not reinvent the wheel.
TIA
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
81805 From: Rayne gray <raynegray@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:48pm
Subject: Wanted-lift shackles
Hey All!
Does anyone have a pair of 1", rear, lift shackles for a cj7 that they would
like to sell?
Thanks
Rayne
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81806 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Jeep Trailer for Sale
Dual Axle with rear brakes. Steel trailer open center.
$1550 or best offer...
Thanks,
Jason LaLiberty
602-999-4516
81807 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 3:20pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Vendor Items Added
How come I never see anything in the Vendor section? I keep seeing the emails about vendor items added, and there is nothing there??
Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Vendor Items Added
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
81808 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
"In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
production does not justify the additional expense that continued
production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
control on their Jeeps."
Scott Maiden
81809 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:14pm
Subject: [Tech] 98 tj - alignment
I was wondering if any one knows a good place to get my front alignment done. thanx Frank
Frank Bell
81810 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:14pm
Subject: [Tech] 98 tj - alignment
I was wondering if any one knows a good place to get my front alignment done. thanx Frank
Frank Bell
81811 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:18am
Subject: FS: Warn Winch
X8000i warn winch with 100" fo Masterpull Plasma Winch Cable and Warn
Accessories Bag which includes snatch block, tree saver and other odds and
ends.
Price: $650.00
Does not include winch mounting plate or fairlead. Winch is still on my
Jeep.
Contact: John Butler @ (602) 618-1424
81812 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:19pm
Subject: RE: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
This is absolutely insane...
"We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
made all these scratching and squealing noises."
Is it POSSIBLE that people could be so damn stupid? Simply reading the
owners
manual on the Rubicon will prevent this idiocy.
I hope this is some kind of sick joke... an April fools thing...
Even the worst lawyer in the world could defend this kind of case.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
81813 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:21pm
Subject: RE: FS: Warn Winch
John,
I thought you sold your Jeep???
Are you going to part it out back to stock to try and get your money out of
it?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] FS: Warn Winch
X8000i warn winch with 100" fo Masterpull Plasma Winch Cable and Warn
Accessories Bag which includes snatch block, tree saver and other odds and
ends.
Price: $650.00
Does not include winch mounting plate or fairlead. Winch is still on my
Jeep.
Contact: John Butler @ (602) 618-1424
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
81814 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:24pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Vendor Items Added???????????? What gives?
I thought I was the only one who never saw anything in the vendor section? But I still get the emails about them. What gives? can anyone answer this?
Duffy
How come I never see anything in the Vendor section? I keep seeing the emails about vendor items added, and there is nothing there??
Shawn
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
81815 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
The best April Fools Joke I have seen yet!!!!
Duffy
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81816 From: Scott Legge <slegge1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:24pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
Sounds like stupidity costs manufacturers money LOL! What a joke its really
too bad they were on to something. I dont see how it uses more gas other
than in low range :-? maybe a few extra pounds... Its too bad. The class
action thing sounds like either one stupidity or two an easy way out of
higher than expected car payments.
Scott Legge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81817 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: What wrong with this TJ?
Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough. They
replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak since I got
it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe and the
"Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was running
better this AM.
I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and then
just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a '99?
without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
Any other help would be appreciated.
TIA
--James
81818 From: Jay Freeman <jay@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:40pm
Subject: Re: What wrong with this TJ?
Autozone will pull your codes for free.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough.
They
> replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
> I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak
since I got
> it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe
and the
> "Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was
running
> better this AM.
> I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and
then
> just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a
'99?
> without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
>
> Any other help would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> --James
81819 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:55pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
SOMEBODY HAS BEEN READING THE P.O.R. BB !!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81820 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:58pm
Subject: RE: What wrong with this TJ?
James,
I'd bet on the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS).
I have a spare on if you'd like to use it for troubleshooting or install it
and buy me another one if it fixes the problem..
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:26 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] What wrong with this TJ?
Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough. They
replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak since I got
it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe and the
"Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was running
better this AM.
I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and then
just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a '99?
without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
Any other help would be appreciated.
TIA
--James
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
81821 From: flyingmonkeydemon <hockeydawg@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:29pm
Subject: Welders in the West Valley?
Hi, I need to weld up a shock bracket on my 97 TJ. It's the passenger side in
the rear, up near the frame. I live in El Mirage but I work in North Scottsdale.
Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
Mike
81822 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
81823 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:28pm
Subject: Re: Welders in the West Valley?
I'm out in Surprise.....let me know when you want to weld it up.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Welders in the West Valley?
> Hi, I need to weld up a shock bracket on my 97 TJ. It's the passenger side
in
> the rear, up near the frame. I live in El Mirage but I work in North
Scottsdale.
> Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
81824 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
Hi,
How far out is this error?
Regards,
Darnella
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
> For those who plan on attending Saturday's 4WD workshop at the White
Tanks,
> I bring this up for your consideration.
>
> I know that some of the land at the southern end of the White Tanks is BLM
> and some of it is Arizona State Trust Land. I do not know which we will
be
> on during Saturday's get together. It might be one or the other or
> both.....I don't have a land ownership map to refer to so I can't say.
>
> So.....if it were me, I would play it safe and make sure I have a State
> Trust Land recreation permit for myself and my family.
>
> That being said, I carry one in my TJ along with the vehicle registration
> and renew it once a year. That way, I never have to worry about being on
> STL without a permit (such an easy $20 solution to the problem). I could
> not imagine wheelin' in Arizona without the STL permit in the glovebox.
>
> The permits can be obtained from several of the 4WD stores, such as 4
> Wheelers Supply, as well as the State Trust Land office in down town
> Phoenix. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers handy but they are in the
phone
> book for sure.
>
> Looking forward to seeing new faces on Saturday.
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
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81800 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:06pm
Subject: [TR] Box Canyon - Wednesday, April 9, 2003
Hello All,
Mike Hiett is leading a Box Canyon trail run on Wednesday, April 9, 2003.
When: Wednesday the 9th of April
Where: T.B.A.
Rating: 3.0
Length: 1/2 to 3/4 of a day
CB Channel: 4
I'll be taking a friend from work up Box canyon and maybe up jackhandle or up to the Martinez area depending on how everyone feels.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
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81801 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
Speaking of the Harbor Freight jacks... the long frame floor jack is
on sale for $100 right now... usually $150! I'm pissed because I
just replaced my floor jack a month ago! heh heh -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit
your needs.
> The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the
bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting
pad area.
> If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5)
ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they
aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton
floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you
need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow
your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
>
>
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joey Martinez
> To: jeepclub
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
>
>
> k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands
and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto
parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
>
> 94xjoe
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
81802 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:58pm
Subject: Re: Re: hydraulic floor jack
FYI: Costco also has a nice 3 or 3.5 ton floor jack for $69.
HTH
Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: hydraulic floor jack
> Speaking of the Harbor Freight jacks... the long frame floor jack is
> on sale for $100 right now... usually $150! I'm pissed because I
> just replaced my floor jack a month ago! heh heh -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit
> your needs.
> > The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the
> bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting
> pad area.
> > If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5)
> ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they
> aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton
> floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you
> need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow
> your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
> >
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Joey Martinez
> > To: jeepclub
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
> >
> >
> > k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands
> and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto
> parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
> >
> > 94xjoe
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81803 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:48pm
Subject: RE: hydraulic floor jack
it should be at any of them, the sale ends on sat. the original price i think was $36.00
94xjoe
81804 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:03pm
Subject: [OT] Web site questions
I have a friend that wants me to set up her web site and that is not the
issue I have. She wants a shopping cart and checkout also on the website.
I know that is not a lot of information but if anyone has any questions to
get some more information please ask.
Can anyone give me information from what they know (off list) about setting
this up. Good ideas and bad ones so I do not reinvent the wheel.
TIA
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
81805 From: Rayne gray <raynegray@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:48pm
Subject: Wanted-lift shackles
Hey All!
Does anyone have a pair of 1", rear, lift shackles for a cj7 that they would
like to sell?
Thanks
Rayne
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81806 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Jeep Trailer for Sale
Dual Axle with rear brakes. Steel trailer open center.
$1550 or best offer...
Thanks,
Jason LaLiberty
602-999-4516
81807 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 3:20pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Vendor Items Added
How come I never see anything in the Vendor section? I keep seeing the emails about vendor items added, and there is nothing there??
Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Vendor Items Added
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
81808 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
"In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
production does not justify the additional expense that continued
production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
control on their Jeeps."
Scott Maiden
81809 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:14pm
Subject: [Tech] 98 tj - alignment
I was wondering if any one knows a good place to get my front alignment done. thanx Frank
Frank Bell
81810 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:14pm
Subject: [Tech] 98 tj - alignment
I was wondering if any one knows a good place to get my front alignment done. thanx Frank
Frank Bell
81811 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:18am
Subject: FS: Warn Winch
X8000i warn winch with 100" fo Masterpull Plasma Winch Cable and Warn
Accessories Bag which includes snatch block, tree saver and other odds and
ends.
Price: $650.00
Does not include winch mounting plate or fairlead. Winch is still on my
Jeep.
Contact: John Butler @ (602) 618-1424
81812 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:19pm
Subject: RE: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
This is absolutely insane...
"We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
made all these scratching and squealing noises."
Is it POSSIBLE that people could be so damn stupid? Simply reading the
owners
manual on the Rubicon will prevent this idiocy.
I hope this is some kind of sick joke... an April fools thing...
Even the worst lawyer in the world could defend this kind of case.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
81813 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:21pm
Subject: RE: FS: Warn Winch
John,
I thought you sold your Jeep???
Are you going to part it out back to stock to try and get your money out of
it?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: JNB4PLS@a... [mailto:JNB4PLS@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] FS: Warn Winch
X8000i warn winch with 100" fo Masterpull Plasma Winch Cable and Warn
Accessories Bag which includes snatch block, tree saver and other odds and
ends.
Price: $650.00
Does not include winch mounting plate or fairlead. Winch is still on my
Jeep.
Contact: John Butler @ (602) 618-1424
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
81814 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:24pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Vendor Items Added???????????? What gives?
I thought I was the only one who never saw anything in the vendor section? But I still get the emails about them. What gives? can anyone answer this?
Duffy
How come I never see anything in the Vendor section? I keep seeing the emails about vendor items added, and there is nothing there??
Shawn
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
81815 From: Duffy Ladd <dladd5@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
The best April Fools Joke I have seen yet!!!!
Duffy
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81816 From: Scott Legge <slegge1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:24pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
Sounds like stupidity costs manufacturers money LOL! What a joke its really
too bad they were on to something. I dont see how it uses more gas other
than in low range :-? maybe a few extra pounds... Its too bad. The class
action thing sounds like either one stupidity or two an easy way out of
higher than expected car payments.
Scott Legge
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81817 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: What wrong with this TJ?
Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough. They
replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak since I got
it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe and the
"Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was running
better this AM.
I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and then
just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a '99?
without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
Any other help would be appreciated.
TIA
--James
81818 From: Jay Freeman <jay@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:40pm
Subject: Re: What wrong with this TJ?
Autozone will pull your codes for free.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough.
They
> replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
> I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak
since I got
> it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe
and the
> "Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was
running
> better this AM.
> I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and
then
> just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a
'99?
> without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
>
> Any other help would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> --James
81819 From: Shawn Passmore <jeepcj5nut@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:55pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
SOMEBODY HAS BEEN READING THE P.O.R. BB !!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81820 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:58pm
Subject: RE: What wrong with this TJ?
James,
I'd bet on the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS).
I have a spare on if you'd like to use it for troubleshooting or install it
and buy me another one if it fixes the problem..
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:26 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] What wrong with this TJ?
Ever since I got my TJ back from Darners it has been running rough. They
replaced the exhaust manifold and the fan controller/wiring (AC).
I have been suspecting that there is some kind of a vacuum leak since I got
it back. Last night the Jeep almost didn't make it home from Tempe and the
"Service Engine" light has been on since then, although it was running
better this AM.
I don't think a vacuum leak would have made it run extremely bad and then
just bad, I think it would be consistent. Can I get the codes off a '99?
without payng a mechanic? Should I reset the computer?
Any other help would be appreciated.
TIA
--James
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
81821 From: flyingmonkeydemon <hockeydawg@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:29pm
Subject: Welders in the West Valley?
Hi, I need to weld up a shock bracket on my 97 TJ. It's the passenger side in
the rear, up near the frame. I live in El Mirage but I work in North Scottsdale.
Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
Mike
81822 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: Re: Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep is no longer going to make the Rubicon!!!
> DETROIT Bowing to pressure from a lawsuit and citing a mixture of
> driveability, efficiency and environmental concerns, Daimler Chrysler
> today announced that the short-lived production run of the Wrangler
> Rubicon will cease in April. The Rubicon model of the popular sport
> utility had additional equipment meant to make it more capable in off
> road situations. "The Rubicon package has proven to be a failure in
> the actual environment where the vehicle is being driven." said
> Dieter Baumgartner, Jeep Division Director of Product
> Placement. "Many of our customers have had serious complaints about
> the steering system at slow speeds and with the rising cost of
> gasoline, the excessive fuel mileage." Baumgartner continued.
>
> Kimberley White of Silver City, New Mexico bought a Wrangler Rubicon
> in January, 2003. She and others are joining in a class action
> lawsuit against Daimler Chrysler in an attempt to return what she
> claims is a defective vehicle. "At first we really liked it," she
> stated recently, "It fit our lifestyle perfectly, with the tough
> looks and big tires." But the more she and her boyfriend drove it,
> the more undesirable the special features of the Rubicon model showed
> through. "We took it to the Southridge Mall parking lot and tried
> pulling the little lever and pressing the buttons for the four wheel
> drive system." she said in an interview, "But it went so slow people
> were honking at us and when we tried to turn into a parking space it
> felt like the whole drivetrain just locked up solid and the tires
> made all these scratching and squealing noises." Other complaints
> listed in the lawsuit included poor gas mileage, noisy highway ride
> and the possibility of environmental damage if used off road.
>
> "In reviewing sales figures we have decided that the low volume of
> production does not justify the additional expense that continued
> production will cause us." said Baumgartner. "We are seriously
> considering the addition of a Rubicon package to the Liberty, but
> without all the extra equipment that the Wrangler model had. We have
> found that most of our customers prefer leather seats and cruise
> control on their Jeeps."
>
>
> Scott Maiden
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
81823 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:28pm
Subject: Re: Welders in the West Valley?
I'm out in Surprise.....let me know when you want to weld it up.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Welders in the West Valley?
> Hi, I need to weld up a shock bracket on my 97 TJ. It's the passenger side
in
> the rear, up near the frame. I live in El Mirage but I work in North
Scottsdale.
> Any help would be appreciated. TIA.
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
81824 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
Hi,
How far out is this error?
Regards,
Darnella
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
> For those who plan on attending Saturday's 4WD workshop at the White
Tanks,
> I bring this up for your consideration.
>
> I know that some of the land at the southern end of the White Tanks is BLM
> and some of it is Arizona State Trust Land. I do not know which we will
be
> on during Saturday's get together. It might be one or the other or
> both.....I don't have a land ownership map to refer to so I can't say.
>
> So.....if it were me, I would play it safe and make sure I have a State
> Trust Land recreation permit for myself and my family.
>
> That being said, I carry one in my TJ along with the vehicle registration
> and renew it once a year. That way, I never have to worry about being on
> STL without a permit (such an easy $20 solution to the problem). I could
> not imagine wheelin' in Arizona without the STL permit in the glovebox.
>
> The permits can be obtained from several of the 4WD stores, such as 4
> Wheelers Supply, as well as the State Trust Land office in down town
> Phoenix. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers handy but they are in the
phone
> book for sure.
>
> Looking forward to seeing new faces on Saturday.
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
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