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81775 From: Mitch Woodward <bigwood@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:43am
Subject: Re: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Nasser,
I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep mafia...you're the
first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about them. I
used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I lived in
Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times with 1-2
other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them, and usually
got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they were decent,
but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I was told to
leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite response and
asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
> Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
>
> How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
>
> The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could have made
it.
> Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up that trip.
I
> had a blast. Here is how it went:
>
> Flight Seven Story,
>
> I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the Waffle House
on
> Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty much took off
> at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ on the
> trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of the caravan
> until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold the 55 mph
> speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I accelerated and
> cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
>
> I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona around 8:45,
> unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the caravan
pulled
> up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got a head
count
> of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and Brandon Reid.
> Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a very nice job
> too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at 10:15.
> Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and me. We had
> the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
transferred
> a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and 4 and
made
> an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
>
> Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with her ZJ
"Snow"
> with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family (white
TJ),
> Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and friend
(Jason's
> friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and Brandon Reid
and
> another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
>
> We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps go
through
> and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-lo. Scott
> Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep and shifted
> the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
>
> We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella and the
rest
> kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up the tail
end.
>
> I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were very
> cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must acknowledge the
> fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They had one guy
> out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing traffic. I was
> very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
>
> Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that she crawled
> up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back when we were
> done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove her snow
> right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe Shikany was
> also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't even hear
from
> him.
>
> Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in. Scott L.
was
> a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for us all.
We
> really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase, Darnella got
a
> little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart for this,
and
> plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in the front
> spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint, nor
running
> me over. <grin>
>
> We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went to have
> lunch, and the rest dispersed.
>
> Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I pealed
off
> and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had seen that
> trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest of the day.
> It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her, what she had
> done with the real Scott? <no flames>
>
> After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the yellow Jeep
> tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the Arachnid on
> the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the sunset by
> myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
>
> I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get back from
> my trip).
>
> It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks to Scott
> and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for being such a
> great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and AZVJC'er for a
> great showing.
>
> Nasser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> To: Nasser
> Subject: How was the trip?
>
> Hi Nasser,
>
> Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out to be fun?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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81776 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:10am
Subject: RE: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Hi Mitch,
I too have had nothing but good experiences with the Pink Jeeps... always
friendly and accommodating... perhaps this, like everything else in life is
simply a function of meeting the right people and perhaps having the right
attitude on both sides.
My guess is that things will continue to get better between the Pink Jeeps
and the azvjc. As more and more positive comments come in; I think the old
legacy of the Pink Jeeps being jerks will die a final death.
I'd bank on the fact that if they see an azvjc sticker on your rig; they
will treat you right from here on out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:BigWood@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:44 AM
To: Joe West; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Nasser
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the
trip?
Nasser,
I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep mafia...you're the
first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about them. I
used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I lived in
Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times with 1-2
other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them, and usually
got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they were decent,
but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I was told to
leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite response and
asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
> Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
>
> How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
>
> The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could have made
it.
> Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up that trip.
I
> had a blast. Here is how it went:
>
> Flight Seven Story,
>
> I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the Waffle House
on
> Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty much took off
> at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ on the
> trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of the caravan
> until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold the 55 mph
> speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I accelerated and
> cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
>
> I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona around 8:45,
> unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the caravan
pulled
> up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got a head
count
> of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and Brandon Reid.
> Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a very nice job
> too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at 10:15.
> Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and me. We had
> the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
transferred
> a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and 4 and
made
> an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
>
> Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with her ZJ
"Snow"
> with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family (white
TJ),
> Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and friend
(Jason's
> friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and Brandon Reid
and
> another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
>
> We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps go
through
> and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-lo. Scott
> Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep and shifted
> the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
>
> We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella and the
rest
> kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up the tail
end.
>
> I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were very
> cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must acknowledge the
> fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They had one guy
> out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing traffic. I was
> very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
>
> Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that she crawled
> up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back when we were
> done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove her snow
> right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe Shikany was
> also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't even hear
from
> him.
>
> Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in. Scott L.
was
> a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for us all.
We
> really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase, Darnella got
a
> little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart for this,
and
> plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in the front
> spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint, nor
running
> me over. <grin>
>
> We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went to have
> lunch, and the rest dispersed.
>
> Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I pealed
off
> and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had seen that
> trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest of the day.
> It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her, what she had
> done with the real Scott? <no flames>
>
> After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the yellow Jeep
> tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the Arachnid on
> the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the sunset by
> myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
>
> I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get back from
> my trip).
>
> It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks to Scott
> and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for being such a
> great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and AZVJC'er for a
> great showing.
>
> Nasser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> To: Nasser
> Subject: How was the trip?
>
> Hi Nasser,
>
> Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out to be fun?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81777 From: Bill Ragan <azxjer@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:39am
Subject: Re: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Mitch-
I think some of those same Pink drivers are still there! :-)
As a local guy, I also hit that trail at least once a month, and it
seems to be just a luck of the draw as to what kind of attitude
you'll get from the pink drivers. I've also been told that "they"
own the trail, to which I "politely " responded with "Show me". :-)
Most of them are pretty cool, though. A few of them have seen me in
different rigs over the years, and wave no matter what.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mitch Woodward" <bigwood@c...> wrote:
> Nasser,
>
> I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep
mafia...you're the
> first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about
them. I
> used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I
lived in
> Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times
with 1-2
> other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them,
and usually
> got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they
were decent,
> but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I
was told to
> leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite
response and
> asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
>
> Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
> To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was
the trip?
>
>
> > Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
> >
> > How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
> >
> > The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could
have made
> it.
> > Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up
that trip.
> I
> > had a blast. Here is how it went:
> >
> > Flight Seven Story,
> >
> > I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the
Waffle House
> on
> > Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty
much took off
> > at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ
on the
> > trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of
the caravan
> > until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold
the 55 mph
> > speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I
accelerated and
> > cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
> >
> > I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona
around 8:45,
> > unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the
caravan
> pulled
> > up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got
a head
> count
> > of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and
Brandon Reid.
> > Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a
very nice job
> > too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at
10:15.
> > Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and
me. We had
> > the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
> transferred
> > a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and
4 and
> made
> > an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
> >
> > Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with
her ZJ
> "Snow"
> > with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family
(white
> TJ),
> > Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and
friend
> (Jason's
> > friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and
Brandon Reid
> and
> > another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
> >
> > We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps
go
> through
> > and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-
lo. Scott
> > Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep
and shifted
> > the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
> >
> > We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella
and the
> rest
> > kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up
the tail
> end.
> >
> > I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> > understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were
very
> > cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must
acknowledge the
> > fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They
had one guy
> > out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing
traffic. I was
> > very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
> >
> > Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that
she crawled
> > up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back
when we were
> > done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove
her snow
> > right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe
Shikany was
> > also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't
even hear
> from
> > him.
> >
> > Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in.
Scott L.
> was
> > a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for
us all.
> We
> > really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase,
Darnella got
> a
> > little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart
for this,
> and
> > plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in
the front
> > spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint,
nor
> running
> > me over. <grin>
> >
> > We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went
to have
> > lunch, and the rest dispersed.
> >
> > Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I
pealed
> off
> > and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had
seen that
> > trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest
of the day.
> > It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her,
what she had
> > done with the real Scott? <no flames>
> >
> > After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the
yellow Jeep
> > tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the
Arachnid on
> > the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the
sunset by
> > myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
> >
> > I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get
back from
> > my trip).
> >
> > It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks
to Scott
> > and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for
being such a
> > great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and
AZVJC'er for a
> > great showing.
> >
> > Nasser
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> > To: Nasser
> > Subject: How was the trip?
> >
> > Hi Nasser,
> >
> > Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out
to be fun?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
81778 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:08am
Subject: [MS] - Blue TJ on Chandler Blvd.
Yesterday at about 5:20, east bound on Chandler Blvd, I gave a honk
and a wave!
Mike Baney
81779 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Re: Need to Borrow Rear Seat
Kristi,
Any luck on finding a rear seat donor? If not let me know. I've got one from my YJ sitting in the garage that you could borrow. I'm in the east Valley (near Baseline and Power). I'm at home in the evenings and will be around off and on this weekend...I'm sure we can work out a time for you to stop by if you need it. I think I only have a seat belt for one passenger back there, though.
Would love to run with you, but need to work during the week! Hmmm...do I feel a sick day coming on?
Tom Jacobson
>>> Tom Jacobson 04/01 8:17 AM >>>
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:33:55 -0700
From: "Kristi" <kristiluv33@m...>
Subject: Need to barrow Rear seat!!
Hi,
I know it is a lot to ask, but is any one out there willing to lend a
rear seat and belts for an Yj for a few days next week???? I have a
family member coming to town and I would like to take them on a short
run thru Box Canyon or maybe some one would like to follow us out w/an
extra seat or two(?). We will be going out on the 8th or 9th.
Thank You!
Kristi
81780 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:57am
Subject: BUY 3 GET 1 FREE
All Rancho dealers start a buy 3 get 1 free program today on RSX and RS9000X shocks. The program runs thru June 30. Contact your fav. Rancho dealer.
Simon Lukert
4 Wheelers Supply
3530 e Washington
Phoenix,AZ 85034
602 273 7195
81781 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:14am
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
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81782 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:04am
Subject: hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
81783 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:33am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
Exposed to the heat here?
Joe Kearney
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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81784 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:38am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
CO2 is the most enert gas (next to nitrogen or straight air) that you can
possibly have. It is not flamable. The only thing that would be a concern is
if the tank is overfilled, this happened to Stu I believe and it blew the
safety valve out. This must have made for a cold jeep, but other than
that...I think its the safest bet- IMO
Frank
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>From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@J...>
>Reply-To: <Joe-CJ7@J...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:33:43 -0700
>
>Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
>Exposed to the heat here?
>
>Joe Kearney
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
>
>
>I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
>welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
>(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
>on this page along with contact info for PWS..
>
>http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
>
>HTH,
>
>Frank
>BadAzXJ@m...
>http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
> >Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
> >
> >I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
> >It
> >nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
> >beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The
>regulator
> >was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
> >put.
> >
> >Mike Wixom
> >85 CJ-7
> >Member of:
> >AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> >ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> >Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> >United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> >
> > > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > > break off, etc.)
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > > on
> > > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > > telling
> > > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > > possibly
> > > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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81785 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:39am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
81786 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup???
They seem safe enough, as long as they aren't overfilled.. Stu had one blow
off the safety valve..
I've carried mine in the Jeep for several years, with no problems.
Now, I would probably *not* carry it (nor a fire extunguisher ) inside a
Jeep with a hardtop, hard doors, completely rolled up and sealed, sitting
out in the sun during the summer. It can get extremely hot under those
conditions.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
> Exposed to the heat here?
>
> Joe Kearney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
>
>
> I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
> welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
> (pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
> on this page along with contact info for PWS..
>
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
>
> HTH,
>
> Frank
> BadAzXJ@m...
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
> >Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
> >
> >I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
> >It
> >nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
> >beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The
regulator
> >was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
> >put.
> >
> >Mike Wixom
> >85 CJ-7
> >Member of:
> >AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> >ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> >Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> >United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> >
> > > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > > break off, etc.)
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > > on
> > > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > > telling
> > > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > > possibly
> > > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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81787 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:11am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Brandon,
Is there something down stream of the regulator that drops that pressure
even more? It seems hard to imagine that the Coke going into my cup at
Burger King is at 100 PSI. With 100 PSI of air in my garage, I can blow a
liquid across the width of the garage! LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Sudeith [mailto:jeepinaz@c...]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:21 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Most co2 beverages have the pressure at around 100-110 psi.
Every one I've ever worked with has been in that pressure range and
I've been in the Food Service Industry over 15 years. Soda
fountians, Icee Machines. Therefore most of that type gauage goes up
to 150.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Dan....what output pressure do those run at? I doubt beer or Coke
is
> dispensed at 125 PSI. A fixed regulator should run you about $35
or $40
> (no gauges). Get one with a high flow rate (cuts down on the time
you
> are squatting next to your tire waiting for it to fill up).
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
> Can I just get a regulator like the ones used for fountain drinks
and
> beer kegs? (Multi-purpose...You bring the keg, I got the
pressure!!!)
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > If you use it on larger tires (maybe 35" or bigger), it will
> certainly
> > get cold. During the summer, when the humidity is up, the entire
> > regulator will turn white as the moisture condenses and then
> freezes on
> > it. But I've not had any problems with that affecting my
filling up
> > tires. I used a hose especially designed for CO2 systems.
While it
> > does get a bit stiff when used, it won't snap (break). I am not
> certain
> > if those coiled yellow hoses might suffer from that problem or
not
> > (don't know, don't have one). Maybe someone else can comment on
> what
> > hose the use. I have a quick disconnect on the end of the hose
so
> I can
> > easily switch between a tire chuck, air tool, etc. It is a nice
> system
> > to have on the trail (very portable in the 10# size). Your 20#
tank
> > will weigh about 50# when it is full (more if it is steel). My
10#
> > aluminum tank is 14.5# empty.
> >
> > It is also great for blowing the dust bunnies out of your
computer!
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:50 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] CO2 setup???
> >
> > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
on
> > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> >
> > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> >
> > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> going
> > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> telling
> > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit.
Is
> > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> possibly
> > running air tools in a pinch.
> >
> > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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81788 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:12am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Joe,
I kept mine in the Jeep all last summer and only had one issue with
it.....about 4 hours after a fill up, it blew out the 3000 PSI burst disc.
The weld shop over filled it (although they completely deny it....but they
gladly refunded my money and I stopped going there any more). I spoke with
a person in CA who does commercial gases for a living. He said a properly
filled CO2 tank can be stored half buried in the desert all summer long
without risk. The slight overfill in combination with summer heat causes a
very non-linear spike in tank pressure. I found some interesting reading
about this topic on the web.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Kearney [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:34 AM
To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
Exposed to the heat here?
Joe Kearney
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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81789 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:21am
Subject: Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
For those who plan on attending Saturday's 4WD workshop at the White Tanks,
I bring this up for your consideration.
I know that some of the land at the southern end of the White Tanks is BLM
and some of it is Arizona State Trust Land. I do not know which we will be
on during Saturday's get together. It might be one or the other or
both.....I don't have a land ownership map to refer to so I can't say.
So.....if it were me, I would play it safe and make sure I have a State
Trust Land recreation permit for myself and my family.
That being said, I carry one in my TJ along with the vehicle registration
and renew it once a year. That way, I never have to worry about being on
STL without a permit (such an easy $20 solution to the problem). I could
not imagine wheelin' in Arizona without the STL permit in the glovebox.
The permits can be obtained from several of the 4WD stores, such as 4
Wheelers Supply, as well as the State Trust Land office in down town
Phoenix. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers handy but they are in the phone
book for sure.
Looking forward to seeing new faces on Saturday.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
81790 From: Brandon Sudeith <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:19am
Subject: Re: CO2 setup???
Yes, the co2 and water mix into a "carbonater" to make carbonated
water before it enters the machine.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Brandon,
>
> Is there something down stream of the regulator that drops that
pressure
> even more? It seems hard to imagine that the Coke going into my
cup at
> Burger King is at 100 PSI. With 100 PSI of air in my garage, I
can blow a
> liquid across the width of the garage! LOL
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Sudeith [mailto:jeepinaz@c...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:21 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> Most co2 beverages have the pressure at around 100-110 psi.
> Every one I've ever worked with has been in that pressure range and
> I've been in the Food Service Industry over 15 years. Soda
> fountians, Icee Machines. Therefore most of that type gauage goes
up
> to 150.
>
> Brandon
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > Dan....what output pressure do those run at? I doubt beer or
Coke
> is
> > dispensed at 125 PSI. A fixed regulator should run you about $35
> or $40
> > (no gauges). Get one with a high flow rate (cuts down on the
time
> you
> > are squatting next to your tire waiting for it to fill up).
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:20 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > Can I just get a regulator like the ones used for fountain drinks
> and
> > beer kegs? (Multi-purpose...You bring the keg, I got the
> pressure!!!)
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > > If you use it on larger tires (maybe 35" or bigger), it will
> > certainly
> > > get cold. During the summer, when the humidity is up, the
entire
> > > regulator will turn white as the moisture condenses and then
> > freezes on
> > > it. But I've not had any problems with that affecting my
> filling up
> > > tires. I used a hose especially designed for CO2 systems.
> While it
> > > does get a bit stiff when used, it won't snap (break). I am
not
> > certain
> > > if those coiled yellow hoses might suffer from that problem or
> not
> > > (don't know, don't have one). Maybe someone else can comment
on
> > what
> > > hose the use. I have a quick disconnect on the end of the hose
> so
> > I can
> > > easily switch between a tire chuck, air tool, etc. It is a
nice
> > system
> > > to have on the trail (very portable in the 10# size). Your 20#
> tank
> > > will weigh about 50# when it is full (more if it is steel). My
> 10#
> > > aluminum tank is 14.5# empty.
> > >
> > > It is also great for blowing the dust bunnies out of your
> computer!
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm
planning
> on
> > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > >
> > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > going
> > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > telling
> > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit.
> Is
> > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > possibly
> > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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81791 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:47am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Joey,
I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was a bit more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal bracket.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
To: jeepclub
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
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81792 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 10:13am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@desertjeep.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
To: 'Joey Martinez'
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Joey,
I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was a bit more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal bracket.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
To: jeepclub
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
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81793 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 10:49am
Subject: [TR] Land Use Meeting - Thursday, April 3, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Robert (Roy) Rogers is leading a Land Use Meeting trail run on Thursday, April 3, 2003.
When: 6-9PM
Where: Deer Valley Community Center
Rating: 2.0-
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel: 4
Second of the Phx. BLM Workshops on the Agua Fria National Monument and Bradshaw Foothills-Harquahala area in Phoenix.
Deer Valley Community Center 6 - 9 p.m. 6 - 9 p.m.
2001 West Wahalla Lane, Phoenix
1 block S of Beardsley, S of 101 and 19th Ave
(The big park on the WEST of 19th Ave. just south of 101).
This is used to add Land Use Meetings to the AzVJC Events List.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81794 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:45am
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
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81795 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
I got a cheapie like that once upon a time...they are fine. It works great
as a secondary jack, I have a better one for my primary. I use the big one
on the frame and then the smaller one on an axle or whatever. It won't have
a lot of travel on it (read- if you're lifted it likely won't even _reach_
your frame.) They can be handy at times though.
At 12:45 PM 4/1/2003 -0700, FredTJ wrote:
>It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
>The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3
>tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
>If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor
>jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but
>they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced.
>Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight,
>it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:joey@w...>Joey Martinez
>To: <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>jeepclub
>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
>Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
>
>k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two
>wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be
>a better place to purchase these items?
81796 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:17pm
Subject: [FS] Vendor Items Added
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81797 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:37pm
Subject: RE: hydraulic floor jack
The 12 ton jacks at Harbor Freight are great for getting the frame up in the air and letting your axles droop all the way down, etc. The stink if you want to put them under the axles, but that is what they make smaller ones for! LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:46 PM
To: jeepclub
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
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81798 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: [Tech] 93 Wrangler - NP231 Transfercase
I just installed a sye kit on my 93 wrangler, after a test drive i
crawled under to check for any leaks and noticed that the output
shaft to the front axle has an in and out movement of 30 thousands.Does anyone know if this is normal,as there is no thrust
washer or any way to adjust this that i could see?
Thank You for all your help. Scott C.
Scott Caparn
81799 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:04pm
Subject: Re: Need to Borrow Rear Seat
Come on Tom go ahead and call in :)
I have a newbie to the club interested in going on wednesday the 9th
through box and up to the mill area of Martinez. I was Hoping Kristi
and guests would want to do the same (but I have not heard back from
her)
Mike H.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Kristi,
>
> Any luck on finding a rear seat donor? If not let me know. I've
got one from my YJ sitting in the garage that you could borrow. I'm
in the east Valley (near Baseline and Power). I'm at home in the
evenings and will be around off and on this weekend...I'm sure we can
work out a time for you to stop by if you need it. I think I only
have a seat belt for one passenger back there, though.
>
> Would love to run with you, but need to work during the week!
Hmmm...do I feel a sick day coming on?
>
> Tom Jacobson
>
> >>> Tom Jacobson 04/01 8:17 AM >>>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:33:55 -0700
> From: "Kristi" <kristiluv33@m...>
> Subject: Need to barrow Rear seat!!
>
> Hi,
> I know it is a lot to ask, but is any one out there willing to lend
a
> rear seat and belts for an Yj for a few days next week???? I have a
> family member coming to town and I would like to take them on a
short
> run thru Box Canyon or maybe some one would like to follow us out
w/an
> extra seat or two(?). We will be going out on the 8th or 9th.
>
> Thank You!
> Kristi
81775 From: Mitch Woodward <bigwood@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:43am
Subject: Re: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Nasser,
I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep mafia...you're the
first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about them. I
used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I lived in
Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times with 1-2
other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them, and usually
got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they were decent,
but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I was told to
leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite response and
asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
> Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
>
> How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
>
> The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could have made
it.
> Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up that trip.
I
> had a blast. Here is how it went:
>
> Flight Seven Story,
>
> I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the Waffle House
on
> Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty much took off
> at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ on the
> trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of the caravan
> until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold the 55 mph
> speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I accelerated and
> cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
>
> I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona around 8:45,
> unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the caravan
pulled
> up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got a head
count
> of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and Brandon Reid.
> Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a very nice job
> too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at 10:15.
> Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and me. We had
> the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
transferred
> a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and 4 and
made
> an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
>
> Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with her ZJ
"Snow"
> with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family (white
TJ),
> Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and friend
(Jason's
> friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and Brandon Reid
and
> another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
>
> We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps go
through
> and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-lo. Scott
> Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep and shifted
> the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
>
> We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella and the
rest
> kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up the tail
end.
>
> I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were very
> cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must acknowledge the
> fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They had one guy
> out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing traffic. I was
> very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
>
> Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that she crawled
> up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back when we were
> done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove her snow
> right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe Shikany was
> also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't even hear
from
> him.
>
> Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in. Scott L.
was
> a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for us all.
We
> really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase, Darnella got
a
> little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart for this,
and
> plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in the front
> spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint, nor
running
> me over. <grin>
>
> We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went to have
> lunch, and the rest dispersed.
>
> Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I pealed
off
> and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had seen that
> trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest of the day.
> It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her, what she had
> done with the real Scott? <no flames>
>
> After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the yellow Jeep
> tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the Arachnid on
> the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the sunset by
> myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
>
> I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get back from
> my trip).
>
> It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks to Scott
> and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for being such a
> great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and AZVJC'er for a
> great showing.
>
> Nasser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> To: Nasser
> Subject: How was the trip?
>
> Hi Nasser,
>
> Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out to be fun?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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81776 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 2:10am
Subject: RE: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Hi Mitch,
I too have had nothing but good experiences with the Pink Jeeps... always
friendly and accommodating... perhaps this, like everything else in life is
simply a function of meeting the right people and perhaps having the right
attitude on both sides.
My guess is that things will continue to get better between the Pink Jeeps
and the azvjc. As more and more positive comments come in; I think the old
legacy of the Pink Jeeps being jerks will die a final death.
I'd bank on the fact that if they see an azvjc sticker on your rig; they
will treat you right from here on out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:BigWood@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:44 AM
To: Joe West; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Nasser
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the
trip?
Nasser,
I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep mafia...you're the
first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about them. I
used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I lived in
Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times with 1-2
other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them, and usually
got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they were decent,
but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I was told to
leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite response and
asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
> Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
>
> How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
>
> The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could have made
it.
> Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up that trip.
I
> had a blast. Here is how it went:
>
> Flight Seven Story,
>
> I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the Waffle House
on
> Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty much took off
> at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ on the
> trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of the caravan
> until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold the 55 mph
> speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I accelerated and
> cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
>
> I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona around 8:45,
> unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the caravan
pulled
> up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got a head
count
> of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and Brandon Reid.
> Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a very nice job
> too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at 10:15.
> Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and me. We had
> the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
transferred
> a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and 4 and
made
> an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
>
> Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with her ZJ
"Snow"
> with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family (white
TJ),
> Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and friend
(Jason's
> friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and Brandon Reid
and
> another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
>
> We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps go
through
> and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-lo. Scott
> Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep and shifted
> the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
>
> We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella and the
rest
> kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up the tail
end.
>
> I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were very
> cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must acknowledge the
> fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They had one guy
> out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing traffic. I was
> very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
>
> Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that she crawled
> up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back when we were
> done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove her snow
> right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe Shikany was
> also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't even hear
from
> him.
>
> Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in. Scott L.
was
> a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for us all.
We
> really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase, Darnella got
a
> little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart for this,
and
> plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in the front
> spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint, nor
running
> me over. <grin>
>
> We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went to have
> lunch, and the rest dispersed.
>
> Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I pealed
off
> and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had seen that
> trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest of the day.
> It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her, what she had
> done with the real Scott? <no flames>
>
> After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the yellow Jeep
> tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the Arachnid on
> the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the sunset by
> myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
>
> I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get back from
> my trip).
>
> It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks to Scott
> and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for being such a
> great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and AZVJC'er for a
> great showing.
>
> Nasser
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> To: Nasser
> Subject: How was the trip?
>
> Hi Nasser,
>
> Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out to be fun?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
81777 From: Bill Ragan <azxjer@h...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 4:39am
Subject: Re: Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was the trip?
Mitch-
I think some of those same Pink drivers are still there! :-)
As a local guy, I also hit that trail at least once a month, and it
seems to be just a luck of the draw as to what kind of attitude
you'll get from the pink drivers. I've also been told that "they"
own the trail, to which I "politely " responded with "Show me". :-)
Most of them are pretty cool, though. A few of them have seen me in
different rigs over the years, and wave no matter what.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mitch Woodward" <bigwood@c...> wrote:
> Nasser,
>
> I'm glad you had a decent experience with the pink jeep
mafia...you're the
> first one I've heard of that had something positive to say about
them. I
> used to wheel broken arrow about once a month in my Bronco (when I
lived in
> Flagstaff, pre red rock pass times). Sometimes alone, other times
with 1-2
> other rigs. I was always accommodating and friendly with them,
and usually
> got nothing but piss poor attitudes in return. Some times they
were decent,
> but they often acted like they owned the trail. Several times I
was told to
> leave because I wasn't supposed to be there. I gave a polite
response and
> asked them to call the ranger to remove me from public land.
>
> Maybe it's a jeep thing...unfortunately I don't fit.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nasser" <nasser88@c...>
> To: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Broken Arrow Flight Seven Report; RE: How was
the trip?
>
>
> > Good sometime Joe (not sure what time it is for you),
> >
> > How's life in Japan? I'd like to visit that landmass some day.
> >
> > The trip to Broken was absolutely fantastic. I wish you could
have made
> it.
> > Oh, in case I forgot to tell you before; thanks for setting up
that trip.
> I
> > had a blast. Here is how it went:
> >
> > Flight Seven Story,
> >
> > I took off in the morning at 6:45, to meet everybody at the
Waffle House
> on
> > Bell and I-17. There were oodles of Jeeps there. We pretty
much took off
> > at 7:30 in a 1-mile long caravan. I had my Arachnid looking YJ
on the
> > trailer in tow behind the Durango, and stayed in the middle of
the caravan
> > until we hot the Bloody Basin grades. I couldn't not the hold
the 55 mph
> > speed with the Jeeps in the gear that I wanted. Soooo I
accelerated and
> > cruised up the hill at 65-70 mph <grin>.
> >
> > I kept up the speed and arrived at the meeting pot in Sedona
around 8:45,
> > unloaded the trailer and met up with Kruize. The rest of the
caravan
> pulled
> > up in 20minutes or so (they made a stop at Camp Verde). We got
a head
> count
> > of the trip leaders, and could not account for Tom Le and
Brandon Reid.
> > Scott had the drivers meeting and went over the rules (did a
very nice job
> > too). The first group left at 10:00 followed by Scotts group at
10:15.
> > Scott assigned releasing the rest of the groups to Scott L and
me. We had
> > the largest group, 11 Jeeps! I got together with Rick Beer and
> transferred
> > a couple of Jeepers to his group. We also combined groups 3 and
4 and
> made
> > an 8-jeep team there, which Kevin lead with Dan tail gunning.
> >
> > Our group was the great. We had the ever-famous Darnella with
her ZJ
> "Snow"
> > with us (she is a riot, first time AZVJC trip), Jason and family
(white
> TJ),
> > Joe Shikany and family (TJ and first AZVJC trip), Brian and
friend
> (Jason's
> > friends), Bob (Jason's friends), Scott Legge and Aaron, and
Brandon Reid
> and
> > another AZVJC'er in his YJ made a late entry and joined us.
> >
> > We held back for a while at the trailhead to let some Pink Jeeps
go
> through
> > and also come out. That gave us a chance to get Joe's TJ in 4-
lo. Scott
> > Legge (as well as Bob, and Joe himself) crawled under the Jeep
and shifted
> > the t/c in 4-lo (this event is summarized :))
> >
> > We finally got going with me in the lead, followed by Darnella
and the
> rest
> > kept playing musical jeeps with, and with Scott L. bringing up
the tail
> end.
> >
> > I have to hand it to the Pink Jeep Tours folks. Class act is an
> > understatement. Every one of them that our group ran into, were
very
> > cordial, and pleasant. I was floored! We definitely must
acknowledge the
> > fact that they went out of their way to accommodate us. They
had one guy
> > out the by "the stairs" all day, monitoring and directing
traffic. I was
> > very impressed by their professionalism! Bravo Pink Jeep Tours.
> >
> > Darnella made the trip very special, that first rock step that
she crawled
> > up, or the next one that I had to stack a rock (I put it back
when we were
> > done), with a little muscle nudge, and she made it. She drove
her snow
> > right behind my Arachnid YJ. We have another one hooked! Joe
Shikany was
> > also a first timer with his TJ, and he did so well, I didn't
even hear
> from
> > him.
> >
> > Everybody was having a great time, and I was taking it all in.
Scott L.
> was
> > a great tail gunner, with Aaron providing the some amusement for
us all.
> We
> > really had no trouble any were. Of course at the staircase,
Darnella got
> a
> > little nervous (thanks to Aaron, LOL), but she's got the heart
for this,
> and
> > plunged in. Legge got in the back seat with her and I was in
the front
> > spotting her. She made it without a scratch to the white paint,
nor
> running
> > me over. <grin>
> >
> > We got back out by 2:00ish and called it good. Some folks went
to have
> > lunch, and the rest dispersed.
> >
> > Scott and Theresa Kruize, Scott L. (with passenger Aaron), and I
pealed
> off
> > and headed to the Soldier Pass trail. Neither one of them had
seen that
> > trail, so I led the way. It was a great cool down to the rest
of the day.
> > It was very nice meeting Theresa as well. I kept asking her,
what she had
> > done with the real Scott? <no flames>
> >
> > After the trail run they headed to town to meet with Nena (the
yellow Jeep
> > tours), and I waved goodbye. At the meeting spot I loaded the
Arachnid on
> > the trailer (no other AZVJC'er in sight) and headed into the
sunset by
> > myself. Solitude is a precious gift.
> >
> > I have some pictures that I will post in a few days (after I get
back from
> > my trip).
> >
> > It was great meeting everybody I had a blast. Once again thanks
to Scott
> > and Theresa for keeping the show going, and to Scott L. for
being such a
> > great tail gunner, and the rest of the group leaders, and
AZVJC'er for a
> > great showing.
> >
> > Nasser
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:34 PM
> > To: Nasser
> > Subject: How was the trip?
> >
> > Hi Nasser,
> >
> > Just wondering how Broken Arrow went for you. Did it turn out
to be fun?
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
81778 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:08am
Subject: [MS] - Blue TJ on Chandler Blvd.
Yesterday at about 5:20, east bound on Chandler Blvd, I gave a honk
and a wave!
Mike Baney
81779 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Re: Need to Borrow Rear Seat
Kristi,
Any luck on finding a rear seat donor? If not let me know. I've got one from my YJ sitting in the garage that you could borrow. I'm in the east Valley (near Baseline and Power). I'm at home in the evenings and will be around off and on this weekend...I'm sure we can work out a time for you to stop by if you need it. I think I only have a seat belt for one passenger back there, though.
Would love to run with you, but need to work during the week! Hmmm...do I feel a sick day coming on?
Tom Jacobson
>>> Tom Jacobson 04/01 8:17 AM >>>
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:33:55 -0700
From: "Kristi" <kristiluv33@m...>
Subject: Need to barrow Rear seat!!
Hi,
I know it is a lot to ask, but is any one out there willing to lend a
rear seat and belts for an Yj for a few days next week???? I have a
family member coming to town and I would like to take them on a short
run thru Box Canyon or maybe some one would like to follow us out w/an
extra seat or two(?). We will be going out on the 8th or 9th.
Thank You!
Kristi
81780 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 7:57am
Subject: BUY 3 GET 1 FREE
All Rancho dealers start a buy 3 get 1 free program today on RSX and RS9000X shocks. The program runs thru June 30. Contact your fav. Rancho dealer.
Simon Lukert
4 Wheelers Supply
3530 e Washington
Phoenix,AZ 85034
602 273 7195
81781 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:14am
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>
>
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81782 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:04am
Subject: hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
81783 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:33am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
Exposed to the heat here?
Joe Kearney
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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81784 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:38am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
CO2 is the most enert gas (next to nitrogen or straight air) that you can
possibly have. It is not flamable. The only thing that would be a concern is
if the tank is overfilled, this happened to Stu I believe and it blew the
safety valve out. This must have made for a cold jeep, but other than
that...I think its the safest bet- IMO
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
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>From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@J...>
>Reply-To: <Joe-CJ7@J...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 09:33:43 -0700
>
>Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
>Exposed to the heat here?
>
>Joe Kearney
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
>
>
>I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
>welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
>(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
>on this page along with contact info for PWS..
>
>http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
>
>HTH,
>
>Frank
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> >From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
> >Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
> >
> >I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
> >It
> >nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
> >beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The
>regulator
> >was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
> >put.
> >
> >Mike Wixom
> >85 CJ-7
> >Member of:
> >AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> >ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> >Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> >United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> >
> > > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > > break off, etc.)
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > > on
> > > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > > telling
> > > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > > possibly
> > > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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81785 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:39am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
81786 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: CO2 setup???
They seem safe enough, as long as they aren't overfilled.. Stu had one blow
off the safety valve..
I've carried mine in the Jeep for several years, with no problems.
Now, I would probably *not* carry it (nor a fire extunguisher ) inside a
Jeep with a hardtop, hard doors, completely rolled up and sealed, sitting
out in the sun during the summer. It can get extremely hot under those
conditions.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Kearney" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:33 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
> Exposed to the heat here?
>
> Joe Kearney
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
>
>
> I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
> welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
> (pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
> on this page along with contact info for PWS..
>
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
>
> HTH,
>
> Frank
> BadAzXJ@m...
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
> >Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
> >
> >I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
> >It
> >nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
> >beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The
regulator
> >was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
> >put.
> >
> >Mike Wixom
> >85 CJ-7
> >Member of:
> >AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> >ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> >Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> >United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> >
> > > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > > break off, etc.)
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > > on
> > > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > > going
> > > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > > telling
> > > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > > possibly
> > > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA,
> > > > >
> > > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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81787 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:11am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Brandon,
Is there something down stream of the regulator that drops that pressure
even more? It seems hard to imagine that the Coke going into my cup at
Burger King is at 100 PSI. With 100 PSI of air in my garage, I can blow a
liquid across the width of the garage! LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Brandon Sudeith [mailto:jeepinaz@c...]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:21 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Most co2 beverages have the pressure at around 100-110 psi.
Every one I've ever worked with has been in that pressure range and
I've been in the Food Service Industry over 15 years. Soda
fountians, Icee Machines. Therefore most of that type gauage goes up
to 150.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Dan....what output pressure do those run at? I doubt beer or Coke
is
> dispensed at 125 PSI. A fixed regulator should run you about $35
or $40
> (no gauges). Get one with a high flow rate (cuts down on the time
you
> are squatting next to your tire waiting for it to fill up).
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
> Can I just get a regulator like the ones used for fountain drinks
and
> beer kegs? (Multi-purpose...You bring the keg, I got the
pressure!!!)
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > If you use it on larger tires (maybe 35" or bigger), it will
> certainly
> > get cold. During the summer, when the humidity is up, the entire
> > regulator will turn white as the moisture condenses and then
> freezes on
> > it. But I've not had any problems with that affecting my
filling up
> > tires. I used a hose especially designed for CO2 systems.
While it
> > does get a bit stiff when used, it won't snap (break). I am not
> certain
> > if those coiled yellow hoses might suffer from that problem or
not
> > (don't know, don't have one). Maybe someone else can comment on
> what
> > hose the use. I have a quick disconnect on the end of the hose
so
> I can
> > easily switch between a tire chuck, air tool, etc. It is a nice
> system
> > to have on the trail (very portable in the 10# size). Your 20#
tank
> > will weigh about 50# when it is full (more if it is steel). My
10#
> > aluminum tank is 14.5# empty.
> >
> > It is also great for blowing the dust bunnies out of your
computer!
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:50 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] CO2 setup???
> >
> > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
on
> > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> >
> > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> >
> > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> going
> > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> telling
> > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit.
Is
> > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> possibly
> > running air tools in a pinch.
> >
> > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
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81788 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:12am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Joe,
I kept mine in the Jeep all last summer and only had one issue with
it.....about 4 hours after a fill up, it blew out the 3000 PSI burst disc.
The weld shop over filled it (although they completely deny it....but they
gladly refunded my money and I stopped going there any more). I spoke with
a person in CA who does commercial gases for a living. He said a properly
filled CO2 tank can be stored half buried in the desert all summer long
without risk. The slight overfill in combination with summer heat causes a
very non-linear spike in tank pressure. I found some interesting reading
about this topic on the web.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Kearney [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:34 AM
To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Is it safe to have the CO2 tanks left in the Jeep in the middle of summer.
Exposed to the heat here?
Joe Kearney
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:15 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
I also am running a 20lb tank. I have an adjustable regulator from Phoenix
welding supply. It runs from 0 to 300 psi. So, you can air up tires fast
(pop beads on) or run it slower for air tools. The price list for parts is
on this page along with contact info for PWS..
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/onboardair.msnw
HTH,
Frank
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>From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,"Stu
>Olson" <solson8@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 23:00:59 -0700
>
>I run a 150psi static regulator from Williams Balloon and Helium Company.
>It
>nets about 120 at the output. Fine for airing up, air tools and seating
>beads, can't use for an air locker at that pressure however. The regulator
>was about 40.00 and can be had in any pressure and in male or female out
>put.
>
>Mike Wixom
>85 CJ-7
>Member of:
>AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
>ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
>Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
>United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
>To: "'Dan Dennis'" <dannpegg@c...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:10 PM
>Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> > I believe mine is 125 PSI (it is fixed, non-adjustable, no gauges to
> > break off, etc.)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:02 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > When I get it all set up, what should I set the reulator to for
> > airing up? I know that the tools run around 90psi...
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brandon Sudeith" <jeepinaz@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > I have co2 and it fills up tires very fast and run air tools great.
> > > They only get really cold when used constantly, over an extended
> > > period. Filling up your tires you'll only get a little "tiny"
> > > amount of frost on the reg.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> > > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm planning
> > > on
> > > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > > >
> > > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > > going
> > > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > > telling
> > > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit. Is
> > > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > > possibly
> > > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > TIA,
> > > >
> > > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> >
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81789 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:21am
Subject: Saturday's 4WD Workshop at the White Tanks
For those who plan on attending Saturday's 4WD workshop at the White Tanks,
I bring this up for your consideration.
I know that some of the land at the southern end of the White Tanks is BLM
and some of it is Arizona State Trust Land. I do not know which we will be
on during Saturday's get together. It might be one or the other or
both.....I don't have a land ownership map to refer to so I can't say.
So.....if it were me, I would play it safe and make sure I have a State
Trust Land recreation permit for myself and my family.
That being said, I carry one in my TJ along with the vehicle registration
and renew it once a year. That way, I never have to worry about being on
STL without a permit (such an easy $20 solution to the problem). I could
not imagine wheelin' in Arizona without the STL permit in the glovebox.
The permits can be obtained from several of the 4WD stores, such as 4
Wheelers Supply, as well as the State Trust Land office in down town
Phoenix. Sorry, I don't have phone numbers handy but they are in the phone
book for sure.
Looking forward to seeing new faces on Saturday.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
81790 From: Brandon Sudeith <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:19am
Subject: Re: CO2 setup???
Yes, the co2 and water mix into a "carbonater" to make carbonated
water before it enters the machine.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Brandon,
>
> Is there something down stream of the regulator that drops that
pressure
> even more? It seems hard to imagine that the Coke going into my
cup at
> Burger King is at 100 PSI. With 100 PSI of air in my garage, I
can blow a
> liquid across the width of the garage! LOL
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Sudeith [mailto:jeepinaz@c...]
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:21 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
>
>
> Most co2 beverages have the pressure at around 100-110 psi.
> Every one I've ever worked with has been in that pressure range and
> I've been in the Food Service Industry over 15 years. Soda
> fountians, Icee Machines. Therefore most of that type gauage goes
up
> to 150.
>
> Brandon
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > Dan....what output pressure do those run at? I doubt beer or
Coke
> is
> > dispensed at 125 PSI. A fixed regulator should run you about $35
> or $40
> > (no gauges). Get one with a high flow rate (cuts down on the
time
> you
> > are squatting next to your tire waiting for it to fill up).
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 9:20 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
> >
> > Can I just get a regulator like the ones used for fountain drinks
> and
> > beer kegs? (Multi-purpose...You bring the keg, I got the
> pressure!!!)
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> > > If you use it on larger tires (maybe 35" or bigger), it will
> > certainly
> > > get cold. During the summer, when the humidity is up, the
entire
> > > regulator will turn white as the moisture condenses and then
> > freezes on
> > > it. But I've not had any problems with that affecting my
> filling up
> > > tires. I used a hose especially designed for CO2 systems.
> While it
> > > does get a bit stiff when used, it won't snap (break). I am
not
> > certain
> > > if those coiled yellow hoses might suffer from that problem or
> not
> > > (don't know, don't have one). Maybe someone else can comment
on
> > what
> > > hose the use. I have a quick disconnect on the end of the hose
> so
> > I can
> > > easily switch between a tire chuck, air tool, etc. It is a
nice
> > system
> > > to have on the trail (very portable in the 10# size). Your 20#
> tank
> > > will weigh about 50# when it is full (more if it is steel). My
> 10#
> > > aluminum tank is 14.5# empty.
> > >
> > > It is also great for blowing the dust bunnies out of your
> computer!
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 8:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] CO2 setup???
> > >
> > > I just "acquired" a 20lb CO2 tank from a friend and I'm
planning
> on
> > > setting it up for trail use on my Jeep.
> > >
> > > Anyone out there have this type of setup on their rig?
> > >
> > > Right now all I have is the tank, no regulator or anything. I'm
> > going
> > > to get one of those 50 foot coiled air lines and all of the
> > > connections for airing up the tires after runs...Someone was
> > telling
> > > me that running CO2 was a bad idea since it's so cold on exit.
> Is
> > > this so? I eventually want to set it up for airing tires and
> > possibly
> > > running air tools in a pinch.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > >
> > > AZ Treadhead (BRUZR's Daddy)
> > > '97 TJ (BRUZR) in LHC
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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81791 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 9:47am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Joey,
I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was a bit more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal bracket.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
To: jeepclub
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
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81792 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 10:13am
Subject: RE: Re: CO2 setup???
Or are you talking about explosion hazards of fire extinguishers? I believe extinguishers can hold up to quite a bit of heat.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@desertjeep.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 10:48 AM
To: 'Joey Martinez'
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
Joey,
I got my refillable fire extinguisher at Auto Safety House. It was a bit more then the cheapies at Home Depot but it came with a sturdy metal bracket.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@webtechs.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:39 AM
To: jeepclub
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: CO2 setup???
also what about fire extinguishers in xj's, zj's, etc.
94xjoe
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81793 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 10:49am
Subject: [TR] Land Use Meeting - Thursday, April 3, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Robert (Roy) Rogers is leading a Land Use Meeting trail run on Thursday, April 3, 2003.
When: 6-9PM
Where: Deer Valley Community Center
Rating: 2.0-
Length: 3 hours
CB Channel: 4
Second of the Phx. BLM Workshops on the Agua Fria National Monument and Bradshaw Foothills-Harquahala area in Phoenix.
Deer Valley Community Center 6 - 9 p.m. 6 - 9 p.m.
2001 West Wahalla Lane, Phoenix
1 block S of Beardsley, S of 101 and 19th Ave
(The big park on the WEST of 19th Ave. just south of 101).
This is used to add Land Use Meetings to the AzVJC Events List.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81794 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:45am
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
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81795 From: Daver <daver@i...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: hydraulic floor jack
I got a cheapie like that once upon a time...they are fine. It works great
as a secondary jack, I have a better one for my primary. I use the big one
on the frame and then the smaller one on an axle or whatever. It won't have
a lot of travel on it (read- if you're lifted it likely won't even _reach_
your frame.) They can be handy at times though.
At 12:45 PM 4/1/2003 -0700, FredTJ wrote:
>It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
>The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3
>tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
>If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor
>jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but
>they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced.
>Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight,
>it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:joey@w...>Joey Martinez
>To: <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>jeepclub
>Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
>Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
>
>k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two
>wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be
>a better place to purchase these items?
81796 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:17pm
Subject: [FS] Vendor Items Added
Hello Members of the AzVJC,
Kirk Sanich has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of interest to you. To see these items Click Here or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81797 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:37pm
Subject: RE: hydraulic floor jack
The 12 ton jacks at Harbor Freight are great for getting the frame up in the air and letting your axles droop all the way down, etc. The stink if you want to put them under the axles, but that is what they make smaller ones for! LOL
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 12:46 PM
To: jeepclub
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
It's probably a good deal, total price wise, but it may not suit your needs.
The 2 ton floor jacks, generally don't have a much lift as the bigger 3 tons (and up), and normally don't have a large of lifting pad area.
If price is a big concern, Harbor Freight has 3 (or was it 3.5) ton floor jacks that are reasonably priced.. Quality wise, they aren't the best, but they certainly work.. Also they have 6 ton floor jacks reasonably priced. Those work great.. It's not that you need them to hold all that weight, it's more that the 6 tons allow your to get the Jeep way off the ground.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Joey Martinez
To: jeepclub
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] hydraulic floor jack
k mart has a 2 ton hydraulic floor jack, two 2 ton jack stands and two wheel chocks for $25, is this a good deal or would an auto parts store be a better place to purchase these items?
94xjoe
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81798 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: [Tech] 93 Wrangler - NP231 Transfercase
I just installed a sye kit on my 93 wrangler, after a test drive i
crawled under to check for any leaks and noticed that the output
shaft to the front axle has an in and out movement of 30 thousands.Does anyone know if this is normal,as there is no thrust
washer or any way to adjust this that i could see?
Thank You for all your help. Scott C.
Scott Caparn
81799 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Apr 1, 2003 1:04pm
Subject: Re: Need to Borrow Rear Seat
Come on Tom go ahead and call in :)
I have a newbie to the club interested in going on wednesday the 9th
through box and up to the mill area of Martinez. I was Hoping Kristi
and guests would want to do the same (but I have not heard back from
her)
Mike H.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Kristi,
>
> Any luck on finding a rear seat donor? If not let me know. I've
got one from my YJ sitting in the garage that you could borrow. I'm
in the east Valley (near Baseline and Power). I'm at home in the
evenings and will be around off and on this weekend...I'm sure we can
work out a time for you to stop by if you need it. I think I only
have a seat belt for one passenger back there, though.
>
> Would love to run with you, but need to work during the week!
Hmmm...do I feel a sick day coming on?
>
> Tom Jacobson
>
> >>> Tom Jacobson 04/01 8:17 AM >>>
> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:33:55 -0700
> From: "Kristi" <kristiluv33@m...>
> Subject: Need to barrow Rear seat!!
>
> Hi,
> I know it is a lot to ask, but is any one out there willing to lend
a
> rear seat and belts for an Yj for a few days next week???? I have a
> family member coming to town and I would like to take them on a
short
> run thru Box Canyon or maybe some one would like to follow us out
w/an
> extra seat or two(?). We will be going out on the 8th or 9th.
>
> Thank You!
> Kristi