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81400 From: graymatterwj <graymatterwj@y...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:31am
Subject: Re: Wrenching Party - 1942 Willys MB - This Sat. 3/29/03
If you can stop by to check it out or lend a hand please do. Shoot
me an email so that I can purchase enough food and drinks.
Thanks
Brian
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "graymatterwj" <graymatterwj@y...>
wrote:
> Greetings!
> I am planning a wrenching party on the '42 MB this Saturday in the
> morning. The engine, tranny, x/case, drive shafts are all ready to
> be installed! I could use all the help I can get! The interesting
> part will be setting up the clutch. If anyone has any experience in
> this arena the help would be greatly appreciated. The more the
> merrier. If you can only stop by to chat or check out the progress
> on the restore, please do. I will have coffee, breakfast etc for
all
> who stop by. I will be out there around 7:00am to get
> started/organized but feel free to come when ever you can.
>
> Thanks!
> Brian Luse aka Gray Matter aka the environmental attorney
>
> Directions are as follows: Exit Frank Loyd Wright Blvd off of 101
> (Northeast valley) and head east. After about 1 mile turn left
> (North) on Thompson Peak. Proceed 1 mile or so then turn right
> (eastish) on McDowell Mountain Ranch Road (there is a gas station
on
> the left side at this intersection). Turn right on 105 th (there
is
> a bank and small shopping center on this corner) Proceed about 1.5
> miles and turn left on E. Gelding Dr. The house is the 2nd on the
> left. 10742 E. Gelding Dr. House phone 480-563-9418, My Cell phone
> 480-510-9691.
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81401 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:48am
Subject: Re: "Support Our Troops" donations
I think you'd be more likely to see it on Fox News. How could we send
out press releases given this isn't an official AZVJC function...or
is it? Press coverage would be good (since it's pro-troop and not
necessarily "pro war") and may cause others who see the coverage to
want to participate in some way.
Bill
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
>
> If we get enough jeeps maybe we will make the CNN news =)
>
> Tony
>
> At 03:00 PM 3/26/03 -0000, matt_berend wrote:
> >I wish I had seen this last weekend! So what is the route for
> >the "run"? I'll see if I can't make it as well. You guys should
call
> >some news stations or at least KFYI about the whole thing.
> >
> >Matt
> >
81402 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:49am
Subject: Re: Clutch question
Ahhh, you forgot one other option, right after:
- Let clutch out quickly
- If the rear end falls out, you have a D35 ;)
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
To: "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:12 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Clutch question
> Point your Jeep down the center of a residential street where you can run
> into absolutely NOTHING.
>
> Pull on your emergency brake.
>
> Put your Jeep in first gear.
>
> With the emergency brake still on... (Lest you forget)
>
> Idle to 1200 RPM.
>
> Let the clutch out quickly.
>
> Did the motor die?
>
> Yes; the motor died: Your clutch is probably okay.
>
> No; the motor didn't die: Your clutch is shot.
>
> This test is not good for EVERY possible clutch problem... but is a good
> rough estimate.
>
> Clutches don't normally stop working instantly... you usually notice that
> when you punch the gas, you don't accelerate like you once did (indicating
> that the clutch is either worn out or is slipping).
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:00 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Clutch question
>
>
> This may sound silly, but how do I know when I need a new clutch? Are
> there any specific indicators that I should be aware of, or does it
> just stop working one day?
>
> Thanks in advance....
>
> Teresa
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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>
81403 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:58am
Subject: Re: Update-Care Packages
I have a small enclosed utility trailer that is easy to pull behind a
Jeep if someone wants to borrow it for this USO trip. It's small but
it would double a YJ or TJ's capacity. BTW, remember the speed limit
is only 55 mph in California if you're pulling a trailer.
--------------
Bill - Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony Celaya" <chaton602@e...>
wrote:
> I think this should be a planned run. lets say two weeks from
today. we
> should also try to get in contact with the high school girl that's
been all
> over the news collecting supplies. she doesn't have the money to
send the
> stuff, and it's pretty expensive. maybe we could take the stuff for
her and
> her family including the stuff we have as well. just a thought.
>
> Anthony Celaya
> chaton602@e...
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>
81404 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:17am
Subject: possible follow up to fire relief run
Hi all !
I met someone yesterday that may pose some interesting possibilities for a
follow-up to the fire relief run. He is a professional arborist that is
rehabbing a building that burnt to the ground last summer at Elliot &
Dobson.... He is turning it into an educational center for reforestation of
the rim area that was devestated by the fires last summer.... I don't know
much about it or him yet, except that his plan is to put in 90,000
seedlings... His company is called Urban environmental Enterprises, Inc. I
mentioned our involvement last year and he appeared to be very excited about
possibilities.....I don't know a thing about his financing, i.e; is he for
profit, using grant monies or whatever..... My question to the group is
this.... Do you want me to pursue this to find out more info ? Info such as
funding, associations with other groups (that could get interesting)... I
do not want to do anything to help if this is a "for profit" situation for
anyone involved... Please provide me some feedback soon... I think it could
be a great thing if all the goals and aims of his group are in accord with
ours !.... Let me know what you all think ! (Dang, that's a loaded
question !)
Bob J
81405 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: possible follow up to fire relief run
A seedling run? Sounds like fun. I'm in.
Tony
At 09:17 AM 3/26/03 -0700, Bob Jacques wrote:
>Hi all !
>I met someone yesterday that may pose some interesting possibilities for a
>follow-up to the fire relief run. He is a professional arborist that is
>rehabbing a building that burnt to the ground last summer at Elliot &
>Dobson.... He is turning it into an educational center for reforestation of
>the rim area that was devestated by the fires last summer.... I don't know
>much about it or him yet, except that his plan is to put in 90,000
>seedlings... His company is called Urban environmental Enterprises, Inc. I
>mentioned our involvement last year and he appeared to be very excited about
>possibilities.....I don't know a thing about his financing, i.e; is he for
>profit, using grant monies or whatever..... My question to the group is
>this.... Do you want me to pursue this to find out more info ? Info such as
>funding, associations with other groups (that could get interesting)... I
>do not want to do anything to help if this is a "for profit" situation for
>anyone involved... Please provide me some feedback soon... I think it could
>be a great thing if all the goals and aims of his group are in accord with
>ours !.... Let me know what you all think ! (Dang, that's a loaded
>question !)
>
>Bob J
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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81406 From: Scott Wood <wood@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:10am
Subject: AAHC Legislative Action Update on HB2386, the ticket & tow anti-cruising bill
Followup to the AAHC alert from last week.
AZ LEGISLATIVE ACTION ALERT UPDATE
HB2386 "The Ticket & Tow Anti-Cruising Bill"
Postponed at Senate NRT Hearing 3-25-03
HB2386 was not heard in the Senate NRT hearing 3-25-03. HB2386's sponsor Representative John Nelson has gotten NRTchairwoman Senator Linda Binder to hold this bill till next weeks NRT hearing.
HB2386's sponsor John Nelson has scheduled a meeting with several lobbyist's representing Arizona's motorcycling community to discuss what can be done to "protect the values he and the citizens of Glendale believe need protecting without creating unintended side affects for motorcyclists."
Whatever amendments are added will probably not change the vagueness of HB2386. We'll just have to wait and see what happens at their sit down with Rep. Nelson.
Personally, I see no redeeming qualities in HB2386. That's about the gist of what I told Phoenix lobbyist John Gozales when he called me last week on behalf of Phoenix City Councilman Claude Mattox who is another big supporter of HB2386.
My negative response is also problably why I or the AAHC were not invited to these meetings to help "craft" something that will pass. Because we simply don't want any anti-cruising bills to pass, period.
The bills backers are trying to frame HB2386 as a response to a west-side "gangster low-rider" problem that is totally exaggerated. The president of the AAHC lives in that neighborhood off of West Thomas and goes out to check every weekend evening and finds no congestion from cruisers or from anybody for that matter.
HB2386's ticket & tow tactic's could easily be applied or expanded from "gangster low-riders" to all vehicle enthusiasts as well as to the general public and cruisers at large (both 2 & 4 wheeled varieties).
Collecting vehicles is only half the fun, using them and cruising around is the other half of the equation.
HB2386 duplicates existing laws and appears to only just make it easier to tow somebody. It's intent is too vague and it's remedy is too heavy handed.
Thanks again for your calls and e-mails regarding HB2386 (those of you who did made quite an impression). I'll try to keep you posted about next Tuesdays NRT hearing. I'm sure we'll all need to call and e-mail NRT's committee members again to make sure they understand the negative impact HB2386 could have on our hobby.
Remember it's united we drive and divided, we're ticketed & towed.
- Bill Gilmore - AAHC
In liberty,
Scott
wood@myblueheaven.com
www.myblueheaven.com
81407 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:15am
Subject: [TR] Moab - Tuesday, April 15, 2003
Hello All,
Kirk Sanich is leading a Moab trail run on Tuesday, April 15, 2003.
When: Mid-afternoon
Where: North Phoenix
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 5 days
CB Channel:
Me and my family are heading up to Moab for the Jeep outing. If anyone wants to convoy I'd be happy to do so. I will be staying overnight in Page the night of April 15. Continuing on to Moab the morning of April 16. I'll be returning Sunday April 20 and driving all the way home.
[Someone please send me some information on the trails in this area...]
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81408 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:51am
Subject: The average military man
The average military man
The average age of the military man is 19 years.
He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.
He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either.
He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.
He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm Howitzers.
He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk.
He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.
He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must.
He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march.
He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity.
He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.
He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle.
He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.
If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands. He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.
He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find ironic humor in it all. He has seen more suffering and death then he should have in his short lifetime.
He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them.
He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom.
Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood.
--------------------------
Semper Leafus Springius
81409 From: Scott Fessenden <doktongue@y...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:41am
Subject: Re: Re: "Support Our Troops" donations
When I was looking up information last week for the run and what other rallies might be going on, I found a site about organizing support rallies that has a "press kit" page with information that I'll check further into if that's okay with everybody ... I'll send out what I find and we can go from there.
Sara -- Scott F.'s girlfriend
Bill wrote:
I think you'd be more likely to see it on Fox News. How could we send
out press releases given this isn't an official AZVJC function...or
is it? Press coverage would be good (since it's pro-troop and not
necessarily "pro war") and may cause others who see the coverage to
want to participate in some way.
Bill
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled"
wrote:
>
> If we get enough jeeps maybe we will make the CNN news =)
>
> Tony
>
> At 03:00 PM 3/26/03 -0000, matt_berend wrote:
> >I wish I had seen this last weekend! So what is the route for
> >the "run"? I'll see if I can't make it as well. You guys should
call
> >some news stations or at least KFYI about the whole thing.
> >
> >Matt
> >
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81410 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:44am
Subject: change of email address
For those of you that have my email address as
jeff.trujillo@m... please change it to
airbornexj@a... Thanks Jeff Trujillo 96 XJ
81411 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:49am
Subject: Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
Hello,
We need to get together for a leaders meeting in Sedona at 9:30 AM. Then the smaller groups will begin to depart. Please be prompt. Due to the large group size it will be very tough for us to wait for anybody that is late. If you are late we will try to accomodate you in group 7.
The location where we are going to meet has a Coffee/juice/donut shop in one building closest to Hwy 179 with a nice big parking lot between it and the next building which is the Chamber of Commerce and Forest Station (where the Red Rock passes can be purchased). Each vehicle will need a Red Rock pass at a cost of $5 per vehicle. Please show up early enough to acquire your pass and find your trip leader. Please park between the two buildings in the big lot. We have notified both the Juice shop and the Ranger Station that a large group is showing up.
Creative Juices (Coffee house with Krispy Kreme donuts)
SouthGate Plaza
7000 Hwy 179
Open at 6:30am
SouthGate Plaza Chamber of Commerce & Forest Station
Open @ 8:30 am
1 pass per vehicle ($5)
They are located after the first traffic light on Hwy 179 on the left side of the road. We can turn left at the light and then right into the plaza or use the middle turn lane to turn into the plaza. Here is a map from mapquest. I think the directions are better as the maps are not as updated as their development up there.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=7000+hwy+179&city=sedona&state=az&zipcode=&homesubmit=Get+Map
You will be able to spot your trip leader by looking for a Jeep flying an appropriate colored group ribbon on the anntenna. Please get with your trip leader and attach a ribbon onto your Jeep to help us stay organized. I have asked that each trip leader acquire a spool of ribbon. I will update the spreadsheet very soon with final group assignments. If at all possible print out an updated copy Saturday night or Sunday morning.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
If you get there and cannot find your leader look for me. I will be near a big tan Wrangler with a purple "Daddy Longlegs" banner on the windshield. You can't miss it. My wife and I will wear our "Daddy Longlegs" purple and black baseball hats to help you identify us.
Please allow yourself all day for this adventure. Remember that this is a special group gathering and don't fret over the stop and go traffic. When all the groups have arrived at Chicken Point we will take a picture and head back out. There will be time to eat your lunch at Chicken Point. Please realize that for this to move at a fluid pace we need each vehicle to be ready to stop and roll in a fairly quick pace. There will be stops for pictures at the discretion of each group leader. If the next group bumps into you then that group will need to move along ASAP! If everybody can keep it together we won't have any trouble.
There may be breakdowns on the trail. In that case I ask that the group continue on and that a second vehicle stay with the first to help them get fixed. When they are rolling again I would hope that they can join the next group that comes by. If the breakdown is major I will make sure you get off the trail. Among other tools I've got a big hammer, a welder, and recovery gear. So one way or another we'll get you home.
I will post a copy of this at:
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
81412 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:54am
Subject: RE: Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
The following two links will be updated for the last time on Saturday afternoon. Please check these links for last minute details on Saturday night or Sunday morning and print out a copy of each to take with you.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:50 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
Hello,
We need to get together for a leaders meeting in Sedona at 9:30 AM. Then the smaller groups will begin to depart. Please be prompt. Due to the large group size it will be very tough for us to wait for anybody that is late. If you are late we will try to accomodate you in group 7.
The location where we are going to meet has a Coffee/juice/donut shop in one building closest to Hwy 179 with a nice big parking lot between it and the next building which is the Chamber of Commerce and Forest Station (where the Red Rock passes can be purchased). Each vehicle will need a Red Rock pass at a cost of $5 per vehicle. Please show up early enough to acquire your pass and find your trip leader. Please park between the two buildings in the big lot. We have notified both the Juice shop and the Ranger Station that a large group is showing up.
Creative Juices (Coffee house with Krispy Kreme donuts)
SouthGate Plaza
7000 Hwy 179
Open at 6:30am
SouthGate Plaza Chamber of Commerce & Forest Station
Open @ 8:30 am
1 pass per vehicle ($5)
They are located after the first traffic light on Hwy 179 on the left side of the road. We can turn left at the light and then right into the plaza or use the middle turn lane to turn into the plaza. Here is a map from mapquest. I think the directions are better as the maps are not as updated as their development up there.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=7000+hwy+179&city=sedona&state=az&zipcode=&homesubmit=Get+Map
You will be able to spot your trip leader by looking for a Jeep flying an appropriate colored group ribbon on the anntenna. Please get with your trip leader and attach a ribbon onto your Jeep to help us stay organized. I have asked that each trip leader acquire a spool of ribbon. I will update the spreadsheet very soon with final group assignments. If at all possible print out an updated copy Saturday night or Sunday morning.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
If you get there and cannot find your leader look for me. I will be near a big tan Wrangler with a purple "Daddy Longlegs" banner on the windshield. You can't miss it. My wife and I will wear our "Daddy Longlegs" purple and black baseball hats to help you identify us.
Please allow yourself all day for this adventure. Remember that this is a special group gathering and don't fret over the stop and go traffic. When all the groups have arrived at Chicken Point we will take a picture and head back out. There will be time to eat your lunch at Chicken Point. Please realize that for this to move at a fluid pace we need each vehicle to be ready to stop and roll in a fairly quick pace. There will be stops for pictures at the discretion of each group leader. If the next group bumps into you then that group will need to move along ASAP! If everybody can keep it together we won't have any trouble.
There may be breakdowns on the trail. In that case I ask that the group continue on and that a second vehicle stay with the first to help them get fixed. When they are rolling again I would hope that they can join the next group that comes by. If the breakdown is major I will make sure you get off the trail. Among other tools I've got a big hammer, a welder, and recovery gear. So one way or another we'll get you home.
I will post a copy of this at:
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
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81413 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:47am
Subject: Adding a trip to AZVJC
Is anyone else having problems having problems posting trips? For
some reason it aint letting me. If anyone can try to post this for me
I would appreciate it.
date: 03292003
unspecified
channel 4
when: Saturday 12 noon
Where: Fiesta Mall close to Sears in Mesa
This is the second "Support Our Troops" run. The first was held last
saturday as we drove around Mesa, Tempe and Phoenix showing the
public that someone does support the Troops and the Government. We
had 9 vehicles decorated with flags, banners and horns honking. We
decided that it would better to drive around to take the message out
to the public instead of the public hearing about the anti-war
protesters on TV all day. Our mission is to show support not only for
our troops, but also for the President, families of the troops and
the Veterans. After the run, there will be a donation drop point set
up at Fiesta Mall close to Sears for anyone wishing to drop off any
donations to the troops. The type of donations was sent out in email
on Tuesday. This will be set up from 5-7 PM. All donations we receive
this and the weekend after will be taken to the USO in California
where they will mail all our donations to the Troops in Iraq and
Afghanistan. Please contact myself if you have any questions: Jeff
480-213-1976 cell
Thanks Jeff
81414 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:50am
Subject: early Sedona volunteer needed
If anyone that is going to be up in Sedona early would mind going to the meeting spot and parking their Jeep off Hwy 179 for people to look for I would appreciate it. Please email me with a picture or description of your Jeep and I will add that to the FAQ (link below).
Thanks,
Scott K
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
81415 From: Scott Legge <slegge1@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:57am
Subject: Phoenix to Sedona Sunday morning
I would be glad to host the orginally scheduled breakfast off I-17 and bell Rd. if anyone wants to join me. I would feel better heading up with the comfort of other friendly people. If anyone wants to caravan please discuss here or e-mail me back :)
Scott Legge
81416 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:59am
Subject: [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
I'm interested in putting LED tail lights in my TJ.
But I really don't want to lose that factory look.
Has anyone seen or found factory look tail lights that are LED?
e-mail: redougherty2@yahoo.com
Russ Dougherty
81417 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:04pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, March 30, 2003
Hello All,
Scott Legge is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday morning before Broken arrow trip.
Where: Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road
Rating: None
Length:
CB Channel: n/a
If you want to eat I will be there at 6am and heading out at 7:30 SHARP. After heading out we will meet up with Scott Kruize and the rest to gather passes (dont forget $5) and separate into groups to run the trail.
IF you dont want to eat you can show up at 7:30 and just head up with the group.
I drive a white TJ w/ black armor.
I will have my cell if anyone gets lost or whatever 480-226-0212 if you are running late or whatever please dont hesitate to call.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81418 From: sdp79cj7 <ansparker02@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:18pm
Subject: Vibration problem???
I am curantly geting bad vibrations at speeds above 60mph anything
above 60mph gives vibration I have gotten my tires balenced and
greased everything with a zerk on it I have a 1979 CJ-7: 258 auto
th400 trrany with quadratrac there is no play that I can tell in the
drive shafts either I don't know what it could be any help or insight
would be apreciated greatly.
81419 From: jcteel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: Re: Where's all the night owls?
Hey Joe, I'm usually up until about 1 or 2am thru the week (and I
even work in the day too!) and even later on the weekends so I'll hang
with you and keep you company for at least part of the night. Then
maybe some of the early birds can take over after that! LOL
John Teel
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Where the heck is EVERYBODY???
>
> Scott Kruize?
> Bill Mish?
>
> What the heck happened to all the late night people?
>
> Figures... I'm stuck in the land of the rising sun and nobody can
hang with
> me...
>
> HA!
>
> For the next couple of weeks I am going to be the reining KING of
the Late
> Night azvjc emails.
>
> <grin>
>
> Joe West
81420 From: <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: Adding a trip to AZVJC
yes, we could try something like that. Also, on 3-5-03 we will be collecting donations from stores. Kat and myself are getting letters together to solicit to walmart and others. We could set up a permanant donation site somewhere all day and have the others go to the stores. We need more input on this issue though. Thanks
81421 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:58pm
Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joe West is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday, March 30th at 7:30am departure
Sunday, March 30th at 6:30am for breakfast at the Waffle House
Where: Meeting at the Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Back home around 4pm
CB Channel: 14
03/27/2003 Updates:
Please use the following links to see the most current trip specifics. A big thanks to Scott and Theresa Kruize for picking this up and running with it!
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/23/2003 Updates:
Trip leadership has been passed to Scott Kruize because of an emergency corporate trip to Japan that I leave for on the 24th of March. From this point forward, Scott will organize and run the trip. I am extremely disappointed that I will not be able to finish this run but I am extremely grateful to Scott Kruize for agreeing to take over the leadership role for this run. I look forward to hearing about how the largest Broken Arrow run ever turns out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/16/2003 Updates:
I'm Starting to put together the groups again... and I need everyone who signed up who CANNOT make the rescheduled date of the 30th of march to remove their name from the trip so I can get an accurate count.
I cannot remove your name for you so please take a few moments to delete your name from the Broken Arrow trip if you cannot make the trip on the 30th.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/07/2003 Updates:
Trip Rescheduled for Sunday, March 30th. I need to have everyone involved send me a note regarding whether or not they can attend on this date. I will add/remove names as necessary.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
Greetings,
This morning, about 10 minutes ago, I phoned the Coconino Beaver Creek/Sedona Ranger District office at (928) 282-4119 to let them know that we would be running Broken Arrow and to find out if there were any other requirements such as permits that would be needed.
I described the trip and the number of Jeeps to the ranger I spoke with and asked about permits. There are no other permits required. While I was speaking with the Ranger, another Ranger overheard the conversation and joined in on the call... this new Ranger said that conditions on Broken Arrow were very wet right now and he was concerned about the vulnerability of the trails to damage under these wet conditions. The ranger asked if it would at all be possible to delay our trip by a couple of weeks to allow the trail to dry out before running it. I replied that if they had concerns about trail damage that I believed it would be in the best interest of both the trail and the group to delay this trip for two weeks.
While I am somewhat dissapointed by this turn of events... it is indeed the responsible thing for us to do. The ranger did not state that we HAD to delay the event; he only requested that we do so and left the decision up to me.
My question to the group is; should I delay the trip the minimum two weeks or should I delay it a little longer so that everyone can make arrangements well in advance. I'd like to see everyone who signed up be able to attend so I really need some feedback about how long to delay the trip.
I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused... but in the end, we will be assisting to preserve a trail that is incredibly beautiful. I don't want any bad press out of any azvjc event... and I guess that part of being a responsible Jeeper is to know when to delay a trip; and in this instance, I felt it best to heed the ranger's advice.
For those who signed up... I sure would appreciate some feedback. Based on the feedback, I will reschedule the run for a time when it is most convenient for those who signed up. The default delay, if I don't receive much feedback will be two weeks.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/06/2003 Updates:
Added some names, moved some names around as requested via email, and deleted some names.
Also... today I spoke with the owner (Manager) of Pink Jeeps in Sedona. I have agreed that we will make things as easy as possible on his business... this means sticking to the same trails followed by the Pink Jeeps and under no circumstances; straying off of established trails.
Everyone who is signed up for this event MUST purchase a Red Rock Pass. We will stop as a group on the way to the trailhead and pick up the passes. For those who are meeting us at the trailhead; please plan on being at the trailhead at 10am with your passes. Group leaders will be responsible for verifying that everyone in their group has a pass.
A representative of the Forest Service will be present and will be monitoring us closely... given our past performances, I am sure they will be very happy with our group. I'd like to make sure that everyone on this run tries to pick up trash along the way... let's make a concerted effort to have the Pink Jeeps and everyone else in Sedona want us to return.
Joe West
03/05/2003 Updates:
I need for all trip leaders and tail gunners to contact me via email... I am putting a detailed map package together as well as antenna ribbons of various colors (one color for each flight) which you will need to afix to your (and each member in your flight's) antenna. I know that this probably seems a little organizationally overboard... but with this many Jeeps on a run, people will need to be able to tell at a glance if they are with the correct group... and colored ribbons on the antenna seems to me to be the quickest and least expensive method... oh yes; and the trip leader who contacts me last will get stuck with the PINK ribbon (Evil Grin).
Please send me an email as soon as you get a chance.
Joe West
03/04/2003 Updates:
Various names have been shifted around as people are requesting to be under a specific trip leader. Please examine the groups below in case your name has shifted.
03/03/2003 Updates:
We now have all group leaders and tail gunners identified for this run. Here are the teams for this Sunday's run:
Flight 1 --- Lead; Joe West, Gunner; Bob Jaques
Members; Mike Kelly, Mike Lopez, Steve Murdock, Allen Bernhardt, Chris Lindsey
Flight 2 --- Lead; Scott Kruize, Gunner; Don Whitehead
Members; Mike Fissel, Jonathan Dexter, Bill Scheller, Richard Logan, Keith Bowcut
Flight 3 --- Lead; Scott Rafferty, Gunner; Lon Robison
Members; Dan Lindblad, Troy Sylvia, Ruben Aviles, Stephen Metcalf, Eric Herring
Flight 4 --- Lead; Tom Le, Gunner; TBD
Members; Brandon Sudeith, John Whitaker, Scott Grigsby, Veronica O'Halloran,Frank Bell, Kit Carson
Flight 5 --- Lead; Dan Sexton, Gunner; Nichole Freemon
Members; Barry Cox, LC Lay, Jason La Montagne, Brandon Kowalski, John Teel
Flight 6 --- Lead; Rick Beer, Gunner; Brandon Reid
Members; Al Pioquinto, Jack Sheeler, Mike Acuna,Brad Gailey, Lance Wilson
Flight 7 --- Lead; Nasser Pirshafiey, Gunner; TBD
Members; Darrell Malin, Mia McCarty, Mike Reyes, Dennis Vega, Jeff Cox, Jason Brown,Joe Shikany
Please note the following:
1. Most members still marked as tentative have been assigned to flights 6 and 7. Please update your status if it is still marked as tentative.
2. We still need two tail gunners for flights 6 and 7.
3. If you would like to change the flight you are in, please let me know and I will try to accomodate your wishes.
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
With such a large group on this trail, we will be under a GREAT deal of observation by the local populace.. it is important that we stay on designated trails and that each and every Jeep in our group have a Red Rock Pass (which we will stop on the way and purchase). In addition to not leaving any designated trails... we will not have time to run the Devil's Staircase backwards since we will not have the time with such a large group.
As a group, we will leave this trail in better shape than we found it... if you see trash on the trail, stop and pick it up... no matter who left it.
Let's leave Sedona with the same impression that we left Payson with after the Fire Relief Run;
No one does it better than the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club.
Standby for more updates as the weekend moves closer.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
02/27/2003 Updates:
Hi Gang,
Well... with just over a week to go before the trip to Sedona... we have 39
people signed up total with 22 definite. Because we will be running a group
this size, it will be necessary to do a bit more organization than is
usually necessary; I suspect that this may be the largest single run on
Sedona's broken arrow trail... and I really want it to be a trip that
everyone will have fond memories of.
In order for me to make sure that everything runs smoothly, I need to
organize this large group into smaller groups made up of a diverse range of
experience levels.. and in order to do that; I need to know everyone's
experience level... and I need to know some vehicle equipment information as
well... and finally, I need to do some housekeeping for the trip.
First... and absolutely most important... I need to get obtain a final count
of those who will be definitely going... in order to do this; I need for
EVERYONE who is currently marked as tentative to UPDATE YOUR STATUS to
DEFINITE (if you know).
The deadline for doing this is THIS Sunday (March Second)... if you are
still signed up as tentative after Sunday March Second, I am going to plan
on you NOT going and will schedule your group last. Please be aware that it
is extremely important that you update your status by this Sunday.
Second... I want to identify the current list of trail leads and tail
gunners... if there is no name on the list it means that the position is
still open. The mandatory requirements for trip lead and tail gunner are:
1. A CB Radio
2. A winch
3. First Aid Kit
4. Fire Extinguisher
Items 3 and 4 can be shared items with individuals in the trip leader's
flight... as long as there are at least 1 fire extinguisher and 1 first aid
kit in each flight.
Trip Leaders currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Joe West Scott Kruize Scott Rafferty Rick Beer Nasser* Dan Sexton*
Tail Gunners Currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Bob Jaques Don Whitehead Lon Robinson Martin Ward ** **
* Not yet confirmed.
** Needed
Third... I need for everyone on the trip to send me a direct email with the
following information:
1. Please rate your level of experience driving offroad (1=novice, 10=ARCA Ready)
2. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your Jeep?
3. Do you have a winch on your Jeep?
4. Do you have a first aid kit in your Jeep?
5. Do you have a rear locker or limited slip differential?
6. Do you have a front locker or limited slip differential?
7. Do you have a lift on your Jeep (if so, how much)?
And of course, I do have a CB.
Please note that I need the above information in order to evenly match
groups so that each group contains a good mix of both equipment and
experience levels. I will NOT be sharing this information with the group.
I will be posting an Itinerary later on this weekend which will outline our
trip in detail... please stand by for updates.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
We will be taking a nice leisurely ride down one of the most beautiful trails I've ever had the pleasure to run.
This run is perfect for even stock Jeeps (the pink Jeeps that do it many times a day are pretty much stock).
We'll be having lunch on the trail and because we'll be stopping, we'll need to purchase Red Rock passes (We'll get them as part of the trip).
This is absolutely the perfect run to take the family on and spend a nice day on a beautiful trail. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call (602) 616-0785
Joe West
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81422 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:14pm
Subject: RE: New steering and track bar :-)
John,
Glad to hear it went well. I believe your new found hardware should do well to keep your front axle (and steering wheel) in the proper positions!
73........Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: John DeRuiter [mailto:wm7a@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:43 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] New steering and track bar :-)
Here are some pictures of the new Currie HD steering and RE adjustable track bar that I just installed. I want to thank Stu Olson and Joe West for the good advice. The info on Stu's web site was especially helpful. The front axle is well centered now and the Curried steering components are super. The only problem was the interference of the tie rod end zerk fitting at the drag link with the steering all the way to the right as mentioned on Stu's web site. I did not have a flush mount fitting, so I modified an old zerk I had laying around to minimize the interference. The directions with the Currie components were pretty good (as opposed to non-existent as with Stu's). Also, the red tag did not exist. Instead, Currie pre-installed the tie rod end in the drag link.
http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jeepmodifications.msnw?albumlist=2
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ
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81423 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
Russ,
I have seen LED "bulbs" on the web. They plug into then stock bulb sockets. Other than that, I haven't seen anything that looked like a stock housing.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:00 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
I'm interested in putting LED tail lights in my TJ.
But I really don't want to lose that factory look.
Has anyone seen or found factory look tail lights that are LED?
e-mail: redougherty2@yahoo.com
Russ Dougherty
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81424 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Joe, I think from the trip page, you can change the leader to Scott and then
he should be able to post any updates he has right to the trip page.
Frank
BadAzXJ@msn.com
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ/badazxj.msnw
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>Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
>Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:58:10 (GMT)
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:58:10 (GMT)
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joe West is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday, March 30th at 7:30am departure
Sunday, March 30th at 6:30am for breakfast at the Waffle House
Where: Meeting at the Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Back home around 4pm
CB Channel: 14
03/27/2003 Updates:
Please use the following links to see the most current trip specifics. A big thanks to Scott and Theresa Kruize for picking this up and running with it!
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/23/2003 Updates:
Trip leadership has been passed to Scott Kruize because of an emergency corporate trip to Japan that I leave for on the 24th of March. From this point forward, Scott will organize and run the trip. I am extremely disappointed that I will not be able to finish this run but I am extremely grateful to Scott Kruize for agreeing to take over the leadership role for this run. I look forward to hearing about how the largest Broken Arrow run ever turns out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/16/2003 Updates:
I'm Starting to put together the groups again... and I need everyone who signed up who CANNOT make the rescheduled date of the 30th of march to remove their name from the trip so I can get an accurate count.
I cannot remove your name for you so please take a few moments to delete your name from the Broken Arrow trip if you cannot make the trip on the 30th.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/07/2003 Updates:
Trip Rescheduled for Sunday, March 30th. I need to have everyone involved send me a note regarding whether or not they can attend on this date. I will add/remove names as necessary.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
Greetings,
This morning, about 10 minutes ago, I phoned the Coconino Beaver Creek/Sedona Ranger District office at (928) 282-4119 to let them know that we would be running Broken Arrow and to find out if there were any other requirements such as permits that would be needed.
I described the trip and the number of Jeeps to the ranger I spoke with and asked about permits. There are no other permits required. While I was speaking with the Ranger, another Ranger overheard the conversation and joined in on the call... this new Ranger said that conditions on Broken Arrow were very wet right now and he was concerned about the vulnerability of the trails to damage under these wet conditions. The ranger asked if it would at all be possible to delay our trip by a couple of weeks to allow the trail to dry out before running it. I replied that if they had concerns about trail damage that I believed it would be in the best interest of both the trail and the group to delay this trip for two weeks.
While I am somewhat dissapointed by this turn of events... it is indeed the responsible thing for us to do. The ranger did not state that we HAD to delay the event; he only requested that we do so and left the decision up to me.
My question to the group is; should I delay the trip the minimum two weeks or should I delay it a little longer so that everyone can make arrangements well in advance. I'd like to see everyone who signed up be able to attend so I really need some feedback about how long to delay the trip.
I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused... but in the end, we will be assisting to preserve a trail that is incredibly beautiful. I don't want any bad press out of any azvjc event... and I guess that part of being a responsible Jeeper is to know when to delay a trip; and in this instance, I felt it best to heed the ranger's advice.
For those who signed up... I sure would appreciate some feedback. Based on the feedback, I will reschedule the run for a time when it is most convenient for those who signed up. The default delay, if I don't receive much feedback will be two weeks.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/06/2003 Updates:
Added some names, moved some names around as requested via email, and deleted some names.
Also... today I spoke with the owner (Manager) of Pink Jeeps in Sedona. I have agreed that we will make things as easy as possible on his business... this means sticking to the same trails followed by the Pink Jeeps and under no circumstances; straying off of established trails.
Everyone who is signed up for this event MUST purchase a Red Rock Pass. We will stop as a group on the way to the trailhead and pick up the passes. For those who are meeting us at the trailhead; please plan on being at the trailhead at 10am with your passes. Group leaders will be responsible for verifying that everyone in their group has a pass.
A representative of the Forest Service will be present and will be monitoring us closely... given our past performances, I am sure they will be very happy with our group. I'd like to make sure that everyone on this run tries to pick up trash along the way... let's make a concerted effort to have the Pink Jeeps and everyone else in Sedona want us to return.
Joe West
03/05/2003 Updates:
I need for all trip leaders and tail gunners to contact me via email... I am putting a detailed map package together as well as antenna ribbons of various colors (one color for each flight) which you will need to afix to your (and each member in your flight's) antenna. I know that this probably seems a little organizationally overboard... but with this many Jeeps on a run, people will need to be able to tell at a glance if they are with the correct group... and colored ribbons on the antenna seems to me to be the quickest and least expensive method... oh yes; and the trip leader who contacts me last will get stuck with the PINK ribbon (Evil Grin).
Please send me an email as soon as you get a chance.
Joe West
03/04/2003 Updates:
Various names have been shifted around as people are requesting to be under a specific trip leader. Please examine the groups below in case your name has shifted.
03/03/2003 Updates:
We now have all group leaders and tail gunners identified for this run. Here are the teams for this Sunday's run:
Flight 1 --- Lead; Joe West, Gunner; Bob Jaques
Members; Mike Kelly, Mike Lopez, Steve Murdock, Allen Bernhardt, Chris Lindsey
Flight 2 --- Lead; Scott Kruize, Gunner; Don Whitehead
Members; Mike Fissel, Jonathan Dexter, Bill Scheller, Richard Logan, Keith Bowcut
Flight 3 --- Lead; Scott Rafferty, Gunner; Lon Robison
Members; Dan Lindblad, Troy Sylvia, Ruben Aviles, Stephen Metcalf, Eric Herring
Flight 4 --- Lead; Tom Le, Gunner; TBD
Members; Brandon Sudeith, John Whitaker, Scott Grigsby, Veronica O'Halloran,Frank Bell, Kit Carson
Flight 5 --- Lead; Dan Sexton, Gunner; Nichole Freemon
Members; Barry Cox, LC Lay, Jason La Montagne, Brandon Kowalski, John Teel
Flight 6 --- Lead; Rick Beer, Gunner; Brandon Reid
Members; Al Pioquinto, Jack Sheeler, Mike Acuna,Brad Gailey, Lance Wilson
Flight 7 --- Lead; Nasser Pirshafiey, Gunner; TBD
Members; Darrell Malin, Mia McCarty, Mike Reyes, Dennis Vega, Jeff Cox, Jason Brown,Joe Shikany
Please note the following:
1. Most members still marked as tentative have been assigned to flights 6 and 7. Please update your status if it is still marked as tentative.
2. We still need two tail gunners for flights 6 and 7.
3. If you would like to change the flight you are in, please let me know and I will try to accomodate your wishes.
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
With such a large group on this trail, we will be under a GREAT deal of observation by the local populace.. it is important that we stay on designated trails and that each and every Jeep in our group have a Red Rock Pass (which we will stop on the way and purchase). In addition to not leaving any designated trails... we will not have time to run the Devil's Staircase backwards since we will not have the time with such a large group.
As a group, we will leave this trail in better shape than we found it... if you see trash on the trail, stop and pick it up... no matter who left it.
Let's leave Sedona with the same impression that we left Payson with after the Fire Relief Run;
No one does it better than the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club.
Standby for more updates as the weekend moves closer.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
02/27/2003 Updates:
Hi Gang,
Well... with just over a week to go before the trip to Sedona... we have 39
people signed up total with 22 definite. Because we will be running a group
this size, it will be necessary to do a bit more organization than is
usually necessary; I suspect that this may be the largest single run on
Sedona's broken arrow trail... and I really want it to be a trip that
everyone will have fond memories of.
In order for me to make sure that everything runs smoothly, I need to
organize this large group into smaller groups made up of a diverse range of
experience levels.. and in order to do that; I need to know everyone's
experience level... and I need to know some vehicle equipment information as
well... and finally, I need to do some housekeeping for the trip.
First... and absolutely most important... I need to get obtain a final count
of those who will be definitely going... in order to do this; I need for
EVERYONE who is currently marked as tentative to UPDATE YOUR STATUS to
DEFINITE (if you know).
The deadline for doing this is THIS Sunday (March Second)... if you are
still signed up as tentative after Sunday March Second, I am going to plan
on you NOT going and will schedule your group last. Please be aware that it
is extremely important that you update your status by this Sunday.
Second... I want to identify the current list of trail leads and tail
gunners... if there is no name on the list it means that the position is
still open. The mandatory requirements for trip lead and tail gunner are:
1. A CB Radio
2. A winch
3. First Aid Kit
4. Fire Extinguisher
Items 3 and 4 can be shared items with individuals in the trip leader's
flight... as long as there are at least 1 fire extinguisher and 1 first aid
kit in each flight.
Trip Leaders currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Joe West Scott Kruize Scott Rafferty Rick Beer Nasser* Dan Sexton*
Tail Gunners Currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Bob Jaques Don Whitehead Lon Robinson Martin Ward ** **
* Not yet confirmed.
** Needed
Third... I need for everyone on the trip to send me a direct email with the
following information:
1. Please rate your level of experience driving offroad (1=novice, 10=ARCA Ready)
2. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your Jeep?
3. Do you have a winch on your Jeep?
4. Do you have a first aid kit in your Jeep?
5. Do you have a rear locker or limited slip differential?
6. Do you have a front locker or limited slip differential?
7. Do you have a lift on your Jeep (if so, how much)?
And of course, I do have a CB.
Please note that I need the above information in order to evenly match
groups so that each group contains a good mix of both equipment and
experience levels. I will NOT be sharing this information with the group.
I will be posting an Itinerary later on this weekend which will outline our
trip in detail... please stand by for updates.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
We will be taking a nice leisurely ride down one of the most beautiful trails I've ever had the pleasure to run.
This run is perfect for even stock Jeeps (the pink Jeeps that do it many times a day are pretty much stock).
We'll be having lunch on the trail and because we'll be stopping, we'll need to purchase Red Rock passes (We'll get them as part of the trip).
This is absolutely the perfect run to take the family on and spend a nice day on a beautiful trail. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call (602) 616-0785
Joe West
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
81400 From: graymatterwj <graymatterwj@y...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:31am
Subject: Re: Wrenching Party - 1942 Willys MB - This Sat. 3/29/03
If you can stop by to check it out or lend a hand please do. Shoot
me an email so that I can purchase enough food and drinks.
Thanks
Brian
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "graymatterwj" <graymatterwj@y...>
wrote:
> Greetings!
> I am planning a wrenching party on the '42 MB this Saturday in the
> morning. The engine, tranny, x/case, drive shafts are all ready to
> be installed! I could use all the help I can get! The interesting
> part will be setting up the clutch. If anyone has any experience in
> this arena the help would be greatly appreciated. The more the
> merrier. If you can only stop by to chat or check out the progress
> on the restore, please do. I will have coffee, breakfast etc for
all
> who stop by. I will be out there around 7:00am to get
> started/organized but feel free to come when ever you can.
>
> Thanks!
> Brian Luse aka Gray Matter aka the environmental attorney
>
> Directions are as follows: Exit Frank Loyd Wright Blvd off of 101
> (Northeast valley) and head east. After about 1 mile turn left
> (North) on Thompson Peak. Proceed 1 mile or so then turn right
> (eastish) on McDowell Mountain Ranch Road (there is a gas station
on
> the left side at this intersection). Turn right on 105 th (there
is
> a bank and small shopping center on this corner) Proceed about 1.5
> miles and turn left on E. Gelding Dr. The house is the 2nd on the
> left. 10742 E. Gelding Dr. House phone 480-563-9418, My Cell phone
> 480-510-9691.
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81401 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:48am
Subject: Re: "Support Our Troops" donations
I think you'd be more likely to see it on Fox News. How could we send
out press releases given this isn't an official AZVJC function...or
is it? Press coverage would be good (since it's pro-troop and not
necessarily "pro war") and may cause others who see the coverage to
want to participate in some way.
Bill
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
>
> If we get enough jeeps maybe we will make the CNN news =)
>
> Tony
>
> At 03:00 PM 3/26/03 -0000, matt_berend wrote:
> >I wish I had seen this last weekend! So what is the route for
> >the "run"? I'll see if I can't make it as well. You guys should
call
> >some news stations or at least KFYI about the whole thing.
> >
> >Matt
> >
81402 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:49am
Subject: Re: Clutch question
Ahhh, you forgot one other option, right after:
- Let clutch out quickly
- If the rear end falls out, you have a D35 ;)
:)
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
To: "ajeepgirlinaz" <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:12 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Clutch question
> Point your Jeep down the center of a residential street where you can run
> into absolutely NOTHING.
>
> Pull on your emergency brake.
>
> Put your Jeep in first gear.
>
> With the emergency brake still on... (Lest you forget)
>
> Idle to 1200 RPM.
>
> Let the clutch out quickly.
>
> Did the motor die?
>
> Yes; the motor died: Your clutch is probably okay.
>
> No; the motor didn't die: Your clutch is shot.
>
> This test is not good for EVERY possible clutch problem... but is a good
> rough estimate.
>
> Clutches don't normally stop working instantly... you usually notice that
> when you punch the gas, you don't accelerate like you once did (indicating
> that the clutch is either worn out or is slipping).
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ajeepgirlinaz [mailto:AJEEPGIRLINAZ@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:00 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Clutch question
>
>
> This may sound silly, but how do I know when I need a new clutch? Are
> there any specific indicators that I should be aware of, or does it
> just stop working one day?
>
> Thanks in advance....
>
> Teresa
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
81403 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:58am
Subject: Re: Update-Care Packages
I have a small enclosed utility trailer that is easy to pull behind a
Jeep if someone wants to borrow it for this USO trip. It's small but
it would double a YJ or TJ's capacity. BTW, remember the speed limit
is only 55 mph in California if you're pulling a trailer.
--------------
Bill - Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony Celaya" <chaton602@e...>
wrote:
> I think this should be a planned run. lets say two weeks from
today. we
> should also try to get in contact with the high school girl that's
been all
> over the news collecting supplies. she doesn't have the money to
send the
> stuff, and it's pretty expensive. maybe we could take the stuff for
her and
> her family including the stuff we have as well. just a thought.
>
> Anthony Celaya
> chaton602@e...
> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.
>
81404 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:17am
Subject: possible follow up to fire relief run
Hi all !
I met someone yesterday that may pose some interesting possibilities for a
follow-up to the fire relief run. He is a professional arborist that is
rehabbing a building that burnt to the ground last summer at Elliot &
Dobson.... He is turning it into an educational center for reforestation of
the rim area that was devestated by the fires last summer.... I don't know
much about it or him yet, except that his plan is to put in 90,000
seedlings... His company is called Urban environmental Enterprises, Inc. I
mentioned our involvement last year and he appeared to be very excited about
possibilities.....I don't know a thing about his financing, i.e; is he for
profit, using grant monies or whatever..... My question to the group is
this.... Do you want me to pursue this to find out more info ? Info such as
funding, associations with other groups (that could get interesting)... I
do not want to do anything to help if this is a "for profit" situation for
anyone involved... Please provide me some feedback soon... I think it could
be a great thing if all the goals and aims of his group are in accord with
ours !.... Let me know what you all think ! (Dang, that's a loaded
question !)
Bob J
81405 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: possible follow up to fire relief run
A seedling run? Sounds like fun. I'm in.
Tony
At 09:17 AM 3/26/03 -0700, Bob Jacques wrote:
>Hi all !
>I met someone yesterday that may pose some interesting possibilities for a
>follow-up to the fire relief run. He is a professional arborist that is
>rehabbing a building that burnt to the ground last summer at Elliot &
>Dobson.... He is turning it into an educational center for reforestation of
>the rim area that was devestated by the fires last summer.... I don't know
>much about it or him yet, except that his plan is to put in 90,000
>seedlings... His company is called Urban environmental Enterprises, Inc. I
>mentioned our involvement last year and he appeared to be very excited about
>possibilities.....I don't know a thing about his financing, i.e; is he for
>profit, using grant monies or whatever..... My question to the group is
>this.... Do you want me to pursue this to find out more info ? Info such as
>funding, associations with other groups (that could get interesting)... I
>do not want to do anything to help if this is a "for profit" situation for
>anyone involved... Please provide me some feedback soon... I think it could
>be a great thing if all the goals and aims of his group are in accord with
>ours !.... Let me know what you all think ! (Dang, that's a loaded
>question !)
>
>Bob J
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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81406 From: Scott Wood <wood@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:10am
Subject: AAHC Legislative Action Update on HB2386, the ticket & tow anti-cruising bill
Followup to the AAHC alert from last week.
AZ LEGISLATIVE ACTION ALERT UPDATE
HB2386 "The Ticket & Tow Anti-Cruising Bill"
Postponed at Senate NRT Hearing 3-25-03
HB2386 was not heard in the Senate NRT hearing 3-25-03. HB2386's sponsor Representative John Nelson has gotten NRTchairwoman Senator Linda Binder to hold this bill till next weeks NRT hearing.
HB2386's sponsor John Nelson has scheduled a meeting with several lobbyist's representing Arizona's motorcycling community to discuss what can be done to "protect the values he and the citizens of Glendale believe need protecting without creating unintended side affects for motorcyclists."
Whatever amendments are added will probably not change the vagueness of HB2386. We'll just have to wait and see what happens at their sit down with Rep. Nelson.
Personally, I see no redeeming qualities in HB2386. That's about the gist of what I told Phoenix lobbyist John Gozales when he called me last week on behalf of Phoenix City Councilman Claude Mattox who is another big supporter of HB2386.
My negative response is also problably why I or the AAHC were not invited to these meetings to help "craft" something that will pass. Because we simply don't want any anti-cruising bills to pass, period.
The bills backers are trying to frame HB2386 as a response to a west-side "gangster low-rider" problem that is totally exaggerated. The president of the AAHC lives in that neighborhood off of West Thomas and goes out to check every weekend evening and finds no congestion from cruisers or from anybody for that matter.
HB2386's ticket & tow tactic's could easily be applied or expanded from "gangster low-riders" to all vehicle enthusiasts as well as to the general public and cruisers at large (both 2 & 4 wheeled varieties).
Collecting vehicles is only half the fun, using them and cruising around is the other half of the equation.
HB2386 duplicates existing laws and appears to only just make it easier to tow somebody. It's intent is too vague and it's remedy is too heavy handed.
Thanks again for your calls and e-mails regarding HB2386 (those of you who did made quite an impression). I'll try to keep you posted about next Tuesdays NRT hearing. I'm sure we'll all need to call and e-mail NRT's committee members again to make sure they understand the negative impact HB2386 could have on our hobby.
Remember it's united we drive and divided, we're ticketed & towed.
- Bill Gilmore - AAHC
In liberty,
Scott
wood@myblueheaven.com
www.myblueheaven.com
81407 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:15am
Subject: [TR] Moab - Tuesday, April 15, 2003
Hello All,
Kirk Sanich is leading a Moab trail run on Tuesday, April 15, 2003.
When: Mid-afternoon
Where: North Phoenix
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 5 days
CB Channel:
Me and my family are heading up to Moab for the Jeep outing. If anyone wants to convoy I'd be happy to do so. I will be staying overnight in Page the night of April 15. Continuing on to Moab the morning of April 16. I'll be returning Sunday April 20 and driving all the way home.
[Someone please send me some information on the trails in this area...]
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81408 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:51am
Subject: The average military man
The average military man
The average age of the military man is 19 years.
He is a short haired, tight-muscled kid who, under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to die for his country.
He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than wash his father's; but he has never collected unemployment either.
He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, pursued some form of sport activities, drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke up with him when he left, or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away.
He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm Howitzers.
He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is working or fighting from before dawn to well after dusk.
He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can field strip a rifle in 30 seconds and reassemble it in less time in the dark.
He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher and use either one effectively if he must.
He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march.
He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without spirit or individual dignity.
He is self-sufficient. He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry.
He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle.
He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts.
If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his food. He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run low.
He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his hands. He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job.
He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still find ironic humor in it all. He has seen more suffering and death then he should have in his short lifetime.
He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them.
He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat and is unashamed.
He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at rigid attention, while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who haven't bothered to stand, remove their hat, or even stop talking. In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right to be disrespectful.
Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the price for our freedom.
Beardless or not, he is not a boy.
He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 years.
He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding.
Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his blood.
--------------------------
Semper Leafus Springius
81409 From: Scott Fessenden <doktongue@y...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:41am
Subject: Re: Re: "Support Our Troops" donations
When I was looking up information last week for the run and what other rallies might be going on, I found a site about organizing support rallies that has a "press kit" page with information that I'll check further into if that's okay with everybody ... I'll send out what I find and we can go from there.
Sara -- Scott F.'s girlfriend
Bill wrote:
I think you'd be more likely to see it on Fox News. How could we send
out press releases given this isn't an official AZVJC function...or
is it? Press coverage would be good (since it's pro-troop and not
necessarily "pro war") and may cause others who see the coverage to
want to participate in some way.
Bill
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled"
wrote:
>
> If we get enough jeeps maybe we will make the CNN news =)
>
> Tony
>
> At 03:00 PM 3/26/03 -0000, matt_berend wrote:
> >I wish I had seen this last weekend! So what is the route for
> >the "run"? I'll see if I can't make it as well. You guys should
call
> >some news stations or at least KFYI about the whole thing.
> >
> >Matt
> >
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81410 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:44am
Subject: change of email address
For those of you that have my email address as
jeff.trujillo@m... please change it to
airbornexj@a... Thanks Jeff Trujillo 96 XJ
81411 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:49am
Subject: Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
Hello,
We need to get together for a leaders meeting in Sedona at 9:30 AM. Then the smaller groups will begin to depart. Please be prompt. Due to the large group size it will be very tough for us to wait for anybody that is late. If you are late we will try to accomodate you in group 7.
The location where we are going to meet has a Coffee/juice/donut shop in one building closest to Hwy 179 with a nice big parking lot between it and the next building which is the Chamber of Commerce and Forest Station (where the Red Rock passes can be purchased). Each vehicle will need a Red Rock pass at a cost of $5 per vehicle. Please show up early enough to acquire your pass and find your trip leader. Please park between the two buildings in the big lot. We have notified both the Juice shop and the Ranger Station that a large group is showing up.
Creative Juices (Coffee house with Krispy Kreme donuts)
SouthGate Plaza
7000 Hwy 179
Open at 6:30am
SouthGate Plaza Chamber of Commerce & Forest Station
Open @ 8:30 am
1 pass per vehicle ($5)
They are located after the first traffic light on Hwy 179 on the left side of the road. We can turn left at the light and then right into the plaza or use the middle turn lane to turn into the plaza. Here is a map from mapquest. I think the directions are better as the maps are not as updated as their development up there.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=7000+hwy+179&city=sedona&state=az&zipcode=&homesubmit=Get+Map
You will be able to spot your trip leader by looking for a Jeep flying an appropriate colored group ribbon on the anntenna. Please get with your trip leader and attach a ribbon onto your Jeep to help us stay organized. I have asked that each trip leader acquire a spool of ribbon. I will update the spreadsheet very soon with final group assignments. If at all possible print out an updated copy Saturday night or Sunday morning.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
If you get there and cannot find your leader look for me. I will be near a big tan Wrangler with a purple "Daddy Longlegs" banner on the windshield. You can't miss it. My wife and I will wear our "Daddy Longlegs" purple and black baseball hats to help you identify us.
Please allow yourself all day for this adventure. Remember that this is a special group gathering and don't fret over the stop and go traffic. When all the groups have arrived at Chicken Point we will take a picture and head back out. There will be time to eat your lunch at Chicken Point. Please realize that for this to move at a fluid pace we need each vehicle to be ready to stop and roll in a fairly quick pace. There will be stops for pictures at the discretion of each group leader. If the next group bumps into you then that group will need to move along ASAP! If everybody can keep it together we won't have any trouble.
There may be breakdowns on the trail. In that case I ask that the group continue on and that a second vehicle stay with the first to help them get fixed. When they are rolling again I would hope that they can join the next group that comes by. If the breakdown is major I will make sure you get off the trail. Among other tools I've got a big hammer, a welder, and recovery gear. So one way or another we'll get you home.
I will post a copy of this at:
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
81412 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 10:54am
Subject: RE: Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
The following two links will be updated for the last time on Saturday afternoon. Please check these links for last minute details on Saturday night or Sunday morning and print out a copy of each to take with you.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@cox.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:50 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Sedona meeting time and place for Sunday
Hello,
We need to get together for a leaders meeting in Sedona at 9:30 AM. Then the smaller groups will begin to depart. Please be prompt. Due to the large group size it will be very tough for us to wait for anybody that is late. If you are late we will try to accomodate you in group 7.
The location where we are going to meet has a Coffee/juice/donut shop in one building closest to Hwy 179 with a nice big parking lot between it and the next building which is the Chamber of Commerce and Forest Station (where the Red Rock passes can be purchased). Each vehicle will need a Red Rock pass at a cost of $5 per vehicle. Please show up early enough to acquire your pass and find your trip leader. Please park between the two buildings in the big lot. We have notified both the Juice shop and the Ranger Station that a large group is showing up.
Creative Juices (Coffee house with Krispy Kreme donuts)
SouthGate Plaza
7000 Hwy 179
Open at 6:30am
SouthGate Plaza Chamber of Commerce & Forest Station
Open @ 8:30 am
1 pass per vehicle ($5)
They are located after the first traffic light on Hwy 179 on the left side of the road. We can turn left at the light and then right into the plaza or use the middle turn lane to turn into the plaza. Here is a map from mapquest. I think the directions are better as the maps are not as updated as their development up there.
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=US&addtohistory=&address=7000+hwy+179&city=sedona&state=az&zipcode=&homesubmit=Get+Map
You will be able to spot your trip leader by looking for a Jeep flying an appropriate colored group ribbon on the anntenna. Please get with your trip leader and attach a ribbon onto your Jeep to help us stay organized. I have asked that each trip leader acquire a spool of ribbon. I will update the spreadsheet very soon with final group assignments. If at all possible print out an updated copy Saturday night or Sunday morning.
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
If you get there and cannot find your leader look for me. I will be near a big tan Wrangler with a purple "Daddy Longlegs" banner on the windshield. You can't miss it. My wife and I will wear our "Daddy Longlegs" purple and black baseball hats to help you identify us.
Please allow yourself all day for this adventure. Remember that this is a special group gathering and don't fret over the stop and go traffic. When all the groups have arrived at Chicken Point we will take a picture and head back out. There will be time to eat your lunch at Chicken Point. Please realize that for this to move at a fluid pace we need each vehicle to be ready to stop and roll in a fairly quick pace. There will be stops for pictures at the discretion of each group leader. If the next group bumps into you then that group will need to move along ASAP! If everybody can keep it together we won't have any trouble.
There may be breakdowns on the trail. In that case I ask that the group continue on and that a second vehicle stay with the first to help them get fixed. When they are rolling again I would hope that they can join the next group that comes by. If the breakdown is major I will make sure you get off the trail. Among other tools I've got a big hammer, a welder, and recovery gear. So one way or another we'll get you home.
I will post a copy of this at:
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Thanks!
Scott K
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81413 From: Jeff Trujillo <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:47am
Subject: Adding a trip to AZVJC
Is anyone else having problems having problems posting trips? For
some reason it aint letting me. If anyone can try to post this for me
I would appreciate it.
date: 03292003
unspecified
channel 4
when: Saturday 12 noon
Where: Fiesta Mall close to Sears in Mesa
This is the second "Support Our Troops" run. The first was held last
saturday as we drove around Mesa, Tempe and Phoenix showing the
public that someone does support the Troops and the Government. We
had 9 vehicles decorated with flags, banners and horns honking. We
decided that it would better to drive around to take the message out
to the public instead of the public hearing about the anti-war
protesters on TV all day. Our mission is to show support not only for
our troops, but also for the President, families of the troops and
the Veterans. After the run, there will be a donation drop point set
up at Fiesta Mall close to Sears for anyone wishing to drop off any
donations to the troops. The type of donations was sent out in email
on Tuesday. This will be set up from 5-7 PM. All donations we receive
this and the weekend after will be taken to the USO in California
where they will mail all our donations to the Troops in Iraq and
Afghanistan. Please contact myself if you have any questions: Jeff
480-213-1976 cell
Thanks Jeff
81414 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:50am
Subject: early Sedona volunteer needed
If anyone that is going to be up in Sedona early would mind going to the meeting spot and parking their Jeep off Hwy 179 for people to look for I would appreciate it. Please email me with a picture or description of your Jeep and I will add that to the FAQ (link below).
Thanks,
Scott K
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
81415 From: Scott Legge <slegge1@c...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:57am
Subject: Phoenix to Sedona Sunday morning
I would be glad to host the orginally scheduled breakfast off I-17 and bell Rd. if anyone wants to join me. I would feel better heading up with the comfort of other friendly people. If anyone wants to caravan please discuss here or e-mail me back :)
Scott Legge
81416 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:59am
Subject: [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
I'm interested in putting LED tail lights in my TJ.
But I really don't want to lose that factory look.
Has anyone seen or found factory look tail lights that are LED?
e-mail: redougherty2@yahoo.com
Russ Dougherty
81417 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:04pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, March 30, 2003
Hello All,
Scott Legge is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday morning before Broken arrow trip.
Where: Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road
Rating: None
Length:
CB Channel: n/a
If you want to eat I will be there at 6am and heading out at 7:30 SHARP. After heading out we will meet up with Scott Kruize and the rest to gather passes (dont forget $5) and separate into groups to run the trail.
IF you dont want to eat you can show up at 7:30 and just head up with the group.
I drive a white TJ w/ black armor.
I will have my cell if anyone gets lost or whatever 480-226-0212 if you are running late or whatever please dont hesitate to call.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81418 From: sdp79cj7 <ansparker02@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:18pm
Subject: Vibration problem???
I am curantly geting bad vibrations at speeds above 60mph anything
above 60mph gives vibration I have gotten my tires balenced and
greased everything with a zerk on it I have a 1979 CJ-7: 258 auto
th400 trrany with quadratrac there is no play that I can tell in the
drive shafts either I don't know what it could be any help or insight
would be apreciated greatly.
81419 From: jcteel <jcteel1@e...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: Re: Where's all the night owls?
Hey Joe, I'm usually up until about 1 or 2am thru the week (and I
even work in the day too!) and even later on the weekends so I'll hang
with you and keep you company for at least part of the night. Then
maybe some of the early birds can take over after that! LOL
John Teel
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> Where the heck is EVERYBODY???
>
> Scott Kruize?
> Bill Mish?
>
> What the heck happened to all the late night people?
>
> Figures... I'm stuck in the land of the rising sun and nobody can
hang with
> me...
>
> HA!
>
> For the next couple of weeks I am going to be the reining KING of
the Late
> Night azvjc emails.
>
> <grin>
>
> Joe West
81420 From: <airbornexj@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: Adding a trip to AZVJC
yes, we could try something like that. Also, on 3-5-03 we will be collecting donations from stores. Kat and myself are getting letters together to solicit to walmart and others. We could set up a permanant donation site somewhere all day and have the others go to the stores. We need more input on this issue though. Thanks
81421 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 0:58pm
Subject: [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joe West is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday, March 30th at 7:30am departure
Sunday, March 30th at 6:30am for breakfast at the Waffle House
Where: Meeting at the Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Back home around 4pm
CB Channel: 14
03/27/2003 Updates:
Please use the following links to see the most current trip specifics. A big thanks to Scott and Theresa Kruize for picking this up and running with it!
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/23/2003 Updates:
Trip leadership has been passed to Scott Kruize because of an emergency corporate trip to Japan that I leave for on the 24th of March. From this point forward, Scott will organize and run the trip. I am extremely disappointed that I will not be able to finish this run but I am extremely grateful to Scott Kruize for agreeing to take over the leadership role for this run. I look forward to hearing about how the largest Broken Arrow run ever turns out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/16/2003 Updates:
I'm Starting to put together the groups again... and I need everyone who signed up who CANNOT make the rescheduled date of the 30th of march to remove their name from the trip so I can get an accurate count.
I cannot remove your name for you so please take a few moments to delete your name from the Broken Arrow trip if you cannot make the trip on the 30th.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/07/2003 Updates:
Trip Rescheduled for Sunday, March 30th. I need to have everyone involved send me a note regarding whether or not they can attend on this date. I will add/remove names as necessary.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
Greetings,
This morning, about 10 minutes ago, I phoned the Coconino Beaver Creek/Sedona Ranger District office at (928) 282-4119 to let them know that we would be running Broken Arrow and to find out if there were any other requirements such as permits that would be needed.
I described the trip and the number of Jeeps to the ranger I spoke with and asked about permits. There are no other permits required. While I was speaking with the Ranger, another Ranger overheard the conversation and joined in on the call... this new Ranger said that conditions on Broken Arrow were very wet right now and he was concerned about the vulnerability of the trails to damage under these wet conditions. The ranger asked if it would at all be possible to delay our trip by a couple of weeks to allow the trail to dry out before running it. I replied that if they had concerns about trail damage that I believed it would be in the best interest of both the trail and the group to delay this trip for two weeks.
While I am somewhat dissapointed by this turn of events... it is indeed the responsible thing for us to do. The ranger did not state that we HAD to delay the event; he only requested that we do so and left the decision up to me.
My question to the group is; should I delay the trip the minimum two weeks or should I delay it a little longer so that everyone can make arrangements well in advance. I'd like to see everyone who signed up be able to attend so I really need some feedback about how long to delay the trip.
I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused... but in the end, we will be assisting to preserve a trail that is incredibly beautiful. I don't want any bad press out of any azvjc event... and I guess that part of being a responsible Jeeper is to know when to delay a trip; and in this instance, I felt it best to heed the ranger's advice.
For those who signed up... I sure would appreciate some feedback. Based on the feedback, I will reschedule the run for a time when it is most convenient for those who signed up. The default delay, if I don't receive much feedback will be two weeks.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/06/2003 Updates:
Added some names, moved some names around as requested via email, and deleted some names.
Also... today I spoke with the owner (Manager) of Pink Jeeps in Sedona. I have agreed that we will make things as easy as possible on his business... this means sticking to the same trails followed by the Pink Jeeps and under no circumstances; straying off of established trails.
Everyone who is signed up for this event MUST purchase a Red Rock Pass. We will stop as a group on the way to the trailhead and pick up the passes. For those who are meeting us at the trailhead; please plan on being at the trailhead at 10am with your passes. Group leaders will be responsible for verifying that everyone in their group has a pass.
A representative of the Forest Service will be present and will be monitoring us closely... given our past performances, I am sure they will be very happy with our group. I'd like to make sure that everyone on this run tries to pick up trash along the way... let's make a concerted effort to have the Pink Jeeps and everyone else in Sedona want us to return.
Joe West
03/05/2003 Updates:
I need for all trip leaders and tail gunners to contact me via email... I am putting a detailed map package together as well as antenna ribbons of various colors (one color for each flight) which you will need to afix to your (and each member in your flight's) antenna. I know that this probably seems a little organizationally overboard... but with this many Jeeps on a run, people will need to be able to tell at a glance if they are with the correct group... and colored ribbons on the antenna seems to me to be the quickest and least expensive method... oh yes; and the trip leader who contacts me last will get stuck with the PINK ribbon (Evil Grin).
Please send me an email as soon as you get a chance.
Joe West
03/04/2003 Updates:
Various names have been shifted around as people are requesting to be under a specific trip leader. Please examine the groups below in case your name has shifted.
03/03/2003 Updates:
We now have all group leaders and tail gunners identified for this run. Here are the teams for this Sunday's run:
Flight 1 --- Lead; Joe West, Gunner; Bob Jaques
Members; Mike Kelly, Mike Lopez, Steve Murdock, Allen Bernhardt, Chris Lindsey
Flight 2 --- Lead; Scott Kruize, Gunner; Don Whitehead
Members; Mike Fissel, Jonathan Dexter, Bill Scheller, Richard Logan, Keith Bowcut
Flight 3 --- Lead; Scott Rafferty, Gunner; Lon Robison
Members; Dan Lindblad, Troy Sylvia, Ruben Aviles, Stephen Metcalf, Eric Herring
Flight 4 --- Lead; Tom Le, Gunner; TBD
Members; Brandon Sudeith, John Whitaker, Scott Grigsby, Veronica O'Halloran,Frank Bell, Kit Carson
Flight 5 --- Lead; Dan Sexton, Gunner; Nichole Freemon
Members; Barry Cox, LC Lay, Jason La Montagne, Brandon Kowalski, John Teel
Flight 6 --- Lead; Rick Beer, Gunner; Brandon Reid
Members; Al Pioquinto, Jack Sheeler, Mike Acuna,Brad Gailey, Lance Wilson
Flight 7 --- Lead; Nasser Pirshafiey, Gunner; TBD
Members; Darrell Malin, Mia McCarty, Mike Reyes, Dennis Vega, Jeff Cox, Jason Brown,Joe Shikany
Please note the following:
1. Most members still marked as tentative have been assigned to flights 6 and 7. Please update your status if it is still marked as tentative.
2. We still need two tail gunners for flights 6 and 7.
3. If you would like to change the flight you are in, please let me know and I will try to accomodate your wishes.
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
With such a large group on this trail, we will be under a GREAT deal of observation by the local populace.. it is important that we stay on designated trails and that each and every Jeep in our group have a Red Rock Pass (which we will stop on the way and purchase). In addition to not leaving any designated trails... we will not have time to run the Devil's Staircase backwards since we will not have the time with such a large group.
As a group, we will leave this trail in better shape than we found it... if you see trash on the trail, stop and pick it up... no matter who left it.
Let's leave Sedona with the same impression that we left Payson with after the Fire Relief Run;
No one does it better than the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club.
Standby for more updates as the weekend moves closer.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
02/27/2003 Updates:
Hi Gang,
Well... with just over a week to go before the trip to Sedona... we have 39
people signed up total with 22 definite. Because we will be running a group
this size, it will be necessary to do a bit more organization than is
usually necessary; I suspect that this may be the largest single run on
Sedona's broken arrow trail... and I really want it to be a trip that
everyone will have fond memories of.
In order for me to make sure that everything runs smoothly, I need to
organize this large group into smaller groups made up of a diverse range of
experience levels.. and in order to do that; I need to know everyone's
experience level... and I need to know some vehicle equipment information as
well... and finally, I need to do some housekeeping for the trip.
First... and absolutely most important... I need to get obtain a final count
of those who will be definitely going... in order to do this; I need for
EVERYONE who is currently marked as tentative to UPDATE YOUR STATUS to
DEFINITE (if you know).
The deadline for doing this is THIS Sunday (March Second)... if you are
still signed up as tentative after Sunday March Second, I am going to plan
on you NOT going and will schedule your group last. Please be aware that it
is extremely important that you update your status by this Sunday.
Second... I want to identify the current list of trail leads and tail
gunners... if there is no name on the list it means that the position is
still open. The mandatory requirements for trip lead and tail gunner are:
1. A CB Radio
2. A winch
3. First Aid Kit
4. Fire Extinguisher
Items 3 and 4 can be shared items with individuals in the trip leader's
flight... as long as there are at least 1 fire extinguisher and 1 first aid
kit in each flight.
Trip Leaders currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Joe West Scott Kruize Scott Rafferty Rick Beer Nasser* Dan Sexton*
Tail Gunners Currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Bob Jaques Don Whitehead Lon Robinson Martin Ward ** **
* Not yet confirmed.
** Needed
Third... I need for everyone on the trip to send me a direct email with the
following information:
1. Please rate your level of experience driving offroad (1=novice, 10=ARCA Ready)
2. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your Jeep?
3. Do you have a winch on your Jeep?
4. Do you have a first aid kit in your Jeep?
5. Do you have a rear locker or limited slip differential?
6. Do you have a front locker or limited slip differential?
7. Do you have a lift on your Jeep (if so, how much)?
And of course, I do have a CB.
Please note that I need the above information in order to evenly match
groups so that each group contains a good mix of both equipment and
experience levels. I will NOT be sharing this information with the group.
I will be posting an Itinerary later on this weekend which will outline our
trip in detail... please stand by for updates.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
We will be taking a nice leisurely ride down one of the most beautiful trails I've ever had the pleasure to run.
This run is perfect for even stock Jeeps (the pink Jeeps that do it many times a day are pretty much stock).
We'll be having lunch on the trail and because we'll be stopping, we'll need to purchase Red Rock passes (We'll get them as part of the trip).
This is absolutely the perfect run to take the family on and spend a nice day on a beautiful trail. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call (602) 616-0785
Joe West
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
81422 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:14pm
Subject: RE: New steering and track bar :-)
John,
Glad to hear it went well. I believe your new found hardware should do well to keep your front axle (and steering wheel) in the proper positions!
73........Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: John DeRuiter [mailto:wm7a@msn.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:43 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] New steering and track bar :-)
Here are some pictures of the new Currie HD steering and RE adjustable track bar that I just installed. I want to thank Stu Olson and Joe West for the good advice. The info on Stu's web site was especially helpful. The front axle is well centered now and the Curried steering components are super. The only problem was the interference of the tie rod end zerk fitting at the drag link with the steering all the way to the right as mentioned on Stu's web site. I did not have a flush mount fitting, so I modified an old zerk I had laying around to minimize the interference. The directions with the Currie components were pretty good (as opposed to non-existent as with Stu's). Also, the red tag did not exist. Instead, Currie pre-installed the tie rod end in the drag link.
http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jeepmodifications.msnw?albumlist=2
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ
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81423 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
Russ,
I have seen LED "bulbs" on the web. They plug into then stock bulb sockets. Other than that, I haven't seen anything that looked like a stock housing.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:00 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] - Factory LED tail lights
I'm interested in putting LED tail lights in my TJ.
But I really don't want to lose that factory look.
Has anyone seen or found factory look tail lights that are LED?
e-mail: redougherty2@yahoo.com
Russ Dougherty
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81424 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Joe, I think from the trip page, you can change the leader to Scott and then
he should be able to post any updates he has right to the trip page.
Frank
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Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Broken Arrow - Sunday, March 30, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Joe West is leading a Broken Arrow trail run on Sunday, March 30, 2003.
When: Sunday, March 30th at 7:30am departure
Sunday, March 30th at 6:30am for breakfast at the Waffle House
Where: Meeting at the Waffle House Restaurant on the NE side of I-17 and Bell Road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Back home around 4pm
CB Channel: 14
03/27/2003 Updates:
Please use the following links to see the most current trip specifics. A big thanks to Scott and Theresa Kruize for picking this up and running with it!
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedona.htm
http://members.cox.net/skruize/sedonafaq.htm
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/23/2003 Updates:
Trip leadership has been passed to Scott Kruize because of an emergency corporate trip to Japan that I leave for on the 24th of March. From this point forward, Scott will organize and run the trip. I am extremely disappointed that I will not be able to finish this run but I am extremely grateful to Scott Kruize for agreeing to take over the leadership role for this run. I look forward to hearing about how the largest Broken Arrow run ever turns out.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/16/2003 Updates:
I'm Starting to put together the groups again... and I need everyone who signed up who CANNOT make the rescheduled date of the 30th of march to remove their name from the trip so I can get an accurate count.
I cannot remove your name for you so please take a few moments to delete your name from the Broken Arrow trip if you cannot make the trip on the 30th.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/07/2003 Updates:
Trip Rescheduled for Sunday, March 30th. I need to have everyone involved send me a note regarding whether or not they can attend on this date. I will add/remove names as necessary.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
Greetings,
This morning, about 10 minutes ago, I phoned the Coconino Beaver Creek/Sedona Ranger District office at (928) 282-4119 to let them know that we would be running Broken Arrow and to find out if there were any other requirements such as permits that would be needed.
I described the trip and the number of Jeeps to the ranger I spoke with and asked about permits. There are no other permits required. While I was speaking with the Ranger, another Ranger overheard the conversation and joined in on the call... this new Ranger said that conditions on Broken Arrow were very wet right now and he was concerned about the vulnerability of the trails to damage under these wet conditions. The ranger asked if it would at all be possible to delay our trip by a couple of weeks to allow the trail to dry out before running it. I replied that if they had concerns about trail damage that I believed it would be in the best interest of both the trail and the group to delay this trip for two weeks.
While I am somewhat dissapointed by this turn of events... it is indeed the responsible thing for us to do. The ranger did not state that we HAD to delay the event; he only requested that we do so and left the decision up to me.
My question to the group is; should I delay the trip the minimum two weeks or should I delay it a little longer so that everyone can make arrangements well in advance. I'd like to see everyone who signed up be able to attend so I really need some feedback about how long to delay the trip.
I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused... but in the end, we will be assisting to preserve a trail that is incredibly beautiful. I don't want any bad press out of any azvjc event... and I guess that part of being a responsible Jeeper is to know when to delay a trip; and in this instance, I felt it best to heed the ranger's advice.
For those who signed up... I sure would appreciate some feedback. Based on the feedback, I will reschedule the run for a time when it is most convenient for those who signed up. The default delay, if I don't receive much feedback will be two weeks.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
03/06/2003 Updates:
Added some names, moved some names around as requested via email, and deleted some names.
Also... today I spoke with the owner (Manager) of Pink Jeeps in Sedona. I have agreed that we will make things as easy as possible on his business... this means sticking to the same trails followed by the Pink Jeeps and under no circumstances; straying off of established trails.
Everyone who is signed up for this event MUST purchase a Red Rock Pass. We will stop as a group on the way to the trailhead and pick up the passes. For those who are meeting us at the trailhead; please plan on being at the trailhead at 10am with your passes. Group leaders will be responsible for verifying that everyone in their group has a pass.
A representative of the Forest Service will be present and will be monitoring us closely... given our past performances, I am sure they will be very happy with our group. I'd like to make sure that everyone on this run tries to pick up trash along the way... let's make a concerted effort to have the Pink Jeeps and everyone else in Sedona want us to return.
Joe West
03/05/2003 Updates:
I need for all trip leaders and tail gunners to contact me via email... I am putting a detailed map package together as well as antenna ribbons of various colors (one color for each flight) which you will need to afix to your (and each member in your flight's) antenna. I know that this probably seems a little organizationally overboard... but with this many Jeeps on a run, people will need to be able to tell at a glance if they are with the correct group... and colored ribbons on the antenna seems to me to be the quickest and least expensive method... oh yes; and the trip leader who contacts me last will get stuck with the PINK ribbon (Evil Grin).
Please send me an email as soon as you get a chance.
Joe West
03/04/2003 Updates:
Various names have been shifted around as people are requesting to be under a specific trip leader. Please examine the groups below in case your name has shifted.
03/03/2003 Updates:
We now have all group leaders and tail gunners identified for this run. Here are the teams for this Sunday's run:
Flight 1 --- Lead; Joe West, Gunner; Bob Jaques
Members; Mike Kelly, Mike Lopez, Steve Murdock, Allen Bernhardt, Chris Lindsey
Flight 2 --- Lead; Scott Kruize, Gunner; Don Whitehead
Members; Mike Fissel, Jonathan Dexter, Bill Scheller, Richard Logan, Keith Bowcut
Flight 3 --- Lead; Scott Rafferty, Gunner; Lon Robison
Members; Dan Lindblad, Troy Sylvia, Ruben Aviles, Stephen Metcalf, Eric Herring
Flight 4 --- Lead; Tom Le, Gunner; TBD
Members; Brandon Sudeith, John Whitaker, Scott Grigsby, Veronica O'Halloran,Frank Bell, Kit Carson
Flight 5 --- Lead; Dan Sexton, Gunner; Nichole Freemon
Members; Barry Cox, LC Lay, Jason La Montagne, Brandon Kowalski, John Teel
Flight 6 --- Lead; Rick Beer, Gunner; Brandon Reid
Members; Al Pioquinto, Jack Sheeler, Mike Acuna,Brad Gailey, Lance Wilson
Flight 7 --- Lead; Nasser Pirshafiey, Gunner; TBD
Members; Darrell Malin, Mia McCarty, Mike Reyes, Dennis Vega, Jeff Cox, Jason Brown,Joe Shikany
Please note the following:
1. Most members still marked as tentative have been assigned to flights 6 and 7. Please update your status if it is still marked as tentative.
2. We still need two tail gunners for flights 6 and 7.
3. If you would like to change the flight you are in, please let me know and I will try to accomodate your wishes.
IMPORTANT NOTICE:
With such a large group on this trail, we will be under a GREAT deal of observation by the local populace.. it is important that we stay on designated trails and that each and every Jeep in our group have a Red Rock Pass (which we will stop on the way and purchase). In addition to not leaving any designated trails... we will not have time to run the Devil's Staircase backwards since we will not have the time with such a large group.
As a group, we will leave this trail in better shape than we found it... if you see trash on the trail, stop and pick it up... no matter who left it.
Let's leave Sedona with the same impression that we left Payson with after the Fire Relief Run;
No one does it better than the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club.
Standby for more updates as the weekend moves closer.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
02/27/2003 Updates:
Hi Gang,
Well... with just over a week to go before the trip to Sedona... we have 39
people signed up total with 22 definite. Because we will be running a group
this size, it will be necessary to do a bit more organization than is
usually necessary; I suspect that this may be the largest single run on
Sedona's broken arrow trail... and I really want it to be a trip that
everyone will have fond memories of.
In order for me to make sure that everything runs smoothly, I need to
organize this large group into smaller groups made up of a diverse range of
experience levels.. and in order to do that; I need to know everyone's
experience level... and I need to know some vehicle equipment information as
well... and finally, I need to do some housekeeping for the trip.
First... and absolutely most important... I need to get obtain a final count
of those who will be definitely going... in order to do this; I need for
EVERYONE who is currently marked as tentative to UPDATE YOUR STATUS to
DEFINITE (if you know).
The deadline for doing this is THIS Sunday (March Second)... if you are
still signed up as tentative after Sunday March Second, I am going to plan
on you NOT going and will schedule your group last. Please be aware that it
is extremely important that you update your status by this Sunday.
Second... I want to identify the current list of trail leads and tail
gunners... if there is no name on the list it means that the position is
still open. The mandatory requirements for trip lead and tail gunner are:
1. A CB Radio
2. A winch
3. First Aid Kit
4. Fire Extinguisher
Items 3 and 4 can be shared items with individuals in the trip leader's
flight... as long as there are at least 1 fire extinguisher and 1 first aid
kit in each flight.
Trip Leaders currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Joe West Scott Kruize Scott Rafferty Rick Beer Nasser* Dan Sexton*
Tail Gunners Currently Identified:
Flight 1 Flight 2 Flight 3 Flight 4 Flight 5 Flight 6
Bob Jaques Don Whitehead Lon Robinson Martin Ward ** **
* Not yet confirmed.
** Needed
Third... I need for everyone on the trip to send me a direct email with the
following information:
1. Please rate your level of experience driving offroad (1=novice, 10=ARCA Ready)
2. Do you have a fire extinguisher in your Jeep?
3. Do you have a winch on your Jeep?
4. Do you have a first aid kit in your Jeep?
5. Do you have a rear locker or limited slip differential?
6. Do you have a front locker or limited slip differential?
7. Do you have a lift on your Jeep (if so, how much)?
And of course, I do have a CB.
Please note that I need the above information in order to evenly match
groups so that each group contains a good mix of both equipment and
experience levels. I will NOT be sharing this information with the group.
I will be posting an Itinerary later on this weekend which will outline our
trip in detail... please stand by for updates.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
We will be taking a nice leisurely ride down one of the most beautiful trails I've ever had the pleasure to run.
This run is perfect for even stock Jeeps (the pink Jeeps that do it many times a day are pretty much stock).
We'll be having lunch on the trail and because we'll be stopping, we'll need to purchase Red Rock passes (We'll get them as part of the trip).
This is absolutely the perfect run to take the family on and spend a nice day on a beautiful trail. If you have any questions, feel free to give me a call (602) 616-0785
Joe West
Broken Arrow is a fun trail with great scenery. A stock Jeep can make this run and there are areas for those with built rigs to test and flex their suspension, such as the Crack. Pay attention to the signs, as part of this trail is a one-way loop.
A lot of Pink Jeeps share the trail so please put your best foot forward while representing our club. For many of the passengers on those Jeep tours, you are the first real off-roader they have ever seen (gosh, that is a scarey thought!) You will find that most of the pink drivers are pretty cool!
The Devil's Staircase is fun, and some members have been known to run it bottom-to-top. If you do, please post a look-out at the top to prevent someone from coming down while you are trying to go up.
It usually takes a couple of hours to make the loop, which allows ample time for pictures and a stop at Chicken Point for lunch (you did bring lunch, didn't you?)
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.