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81237 From: Allan Alexander <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:32pm
Subject: Mud & Shine Sound bar?
I have been looking into getting a sound bar for my YJ... I came across the Mud & Shine Sound bar and kind of liked it. Anyone used one or know anything about them. This is the one I have been looking at:
http://www.tellico4x4.com/sound/Bars.htm#mud
http://www.tellico4x4.com/images/sound_1.jpg
"The Mud & Shine 3-way system uses a 6" mica woofer with a buryl rubber surround and 10 oz Magnet, a 2 1/2" high compliance midrange and a 1" tweeter with a neodymium magnet and ferrofluid for superior dispersion and efficiency. The tweeters also swivel to adjust imaging. Power handling is 100 watts per side (200 watts total) and includes a crossover network. Available in black, gray or spice."
Thanks for the Help/information...
Allan
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81238 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:55pm
Subject: Re: fuel injectors??
Hi Keith
Just did my 87 last week with Fords. Work great and only $90 a set compared
to ~$60 a piece for Jeeps. Ordered them from here
http://www.karkraft.com/performance_parts.htm but it doesn't look like they
have them now. Might give them a call or email. You can also order them from
FiveO Motor Sport http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_Sets.html
for $123.60 for a set of 6. The D5b-19lb are the ones I used.
Keith
81239 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:10pm
Subject: Re: Need CB Radio
I want to thank those of you who respond, for your help, cause I had no clue.
Purple, please bring the hand held just in case, if I am not able to install the one I get.
Knowing me, I will get struck somewhere, being I am driving a stock but supercharged Jeep.
She goes by the name "SNOW".
D~
----- Original Message -----
From: purple
To: Stu Olson ; 'Darnella' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
I just bought one at a yard sale for five bucks . I have also purchased some of the hand held ones for twenty bucks used . Not as good of range but no install needed . If you would like to borrow a hand held one from me for the next trip you are welcome to .
Just some more things to think about . 602 788-5889 is the home # and my pager is 602 270-5610 .
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 1:36 PM
To: 'Darnella'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
Darnella,
Some folks get them at Walmart, K-Mart, Target, or Radio Shack. Others prefer to get them from a CB radio shop. Apollo Communications is one that comes to mind (on the west side of the valley). You will get a bit more “hand holding”, so to speak, at a CB shop since they specialize in it. At one of the other places, it is pretty much a self-serve from the shelf.
I know some folks on the list have had good customer service at some of the shops and they will hopefully chime in with a recommendation.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Darnella [mailto:Zesty1@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:02 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
Hi Ladies and Gents.,
Would anyone have or know where I can purchase a CB Radio? I am not familar with that sort of thing.
I would like to have it and installed before the run next weekend.
Darnella C.
'98 Grand
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81240 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:26pm
Subject: Re: [OT]Support Our Troops
All,
Below is a web site with names and addresses of troops that are NOT receiving mail from family and friends back home.
If you every been in the military, I am sure there is nothing more hurting when it's time for mail call and there is none for you.
I took the time to write to seven of these men and women; all it cost is the price of a US stamp. These name range from privates to Coporals....this is a sadthing.
http://www.radiodelilah.com/Military/index.html#mail
Regards,
Darnella
----- Original Message -----
From: AZICE626@aol.com
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; solson8@qwest.net
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
ed....get some addy's (and your son's) for us....and tell your son THANKS!!!!!!....TJ
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81241 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:58am
Subject: Re: Re: My Willys Diary - entry 1
Yeah, Like the world needs another yellow Jeep.
:-P
Chris
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 11:06 PM, Mike H. wrote:
>
> YELLOW! YELLOW!
>
> Mike H.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Halverson <lil_willys_jpr@y...>
> wrote:
>> Sunday, March 23, 2003
>>
>> Today was a great day to work on a Jeep and an even better
> day to start the long process of restoring a 1951 Willys CJ-3A. As
> some of you may know my father, John Halverson, and I, Amanda, have
> acquired a Willys Jeep for the sole purpose of restoring it and
> giving it to me when I turn 16. We have been doing little things to
> it like changing the oil and fixing the brakes but today we finally
> started in on the big tough stuff!
>>
>>
>> First we took off the hood, after carefully taking pictures and
> writing on index cards so as to not forget how to put it back
> together. We then put paint stripper on it. We got a little anxious
> while waiting the grueling 30 minutes for the paint remover to work
> so we decided to take off the left fender, more taking pictures and
> writing. While the LEFT fender sat with the paint stripper on it we
> took off the RIGHT fender.
>>
>>
>> We worked and worked with putty knives scraping and scraping, both
> wondering silently about the burning sensation in our hands. I could
> no longer stand the pain and voiced my discomfort. We both realized
> that it probably wasn't the best idea to let something that could
> virtually melt paint on our bare skin. Two pairs of gloves each and
> about 4 coats of paint stripper later we discovered that there had
> been about 5 separate coats of paint on the hood and one or two
> various blotches of lime green.
>>
>>
>> We have it mostly stripped down, we had to stop because a recent
> illness had left us (me) slightly weaker than normal. As we came down
> to the last coat of paint I noticed that the Willys lettering was
> orange and the rest of the hood tan. Is this normal to have the
> lettering a different color?, and if so does the color of the letters
> usually coordinate with the color of, say, the wheels?
>>
>>
>> By the way I am having a little trouble deciding what color I
> should paint my Jeep. My dad is going for Harvest tan with Luzon red
> wheels, while I want just the opposite. I think that it should be red
> so as to draw attention to the awesomeness of my Willys. Please email
> me with your opinions and comments lil_willys_jpr@y...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for listening to my little story of today's events, I hope
> it wasn't too boring! Please respond with any information you have,
> it is GREATLY appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Amanda Halverson
>>
>>
>> Amanda Halverson
>>
>> 1951 Willys CJ-3A
>>
>>
>>
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81242 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:07am
Subject: RE: [OT]Support Our Troops
Darnella,
Thanks for the link. I will be writting some letters.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Darnella [mailto:Zesty1@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:26 AM
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; solson8@qwest.net; AZICE626@aol.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
Importance: High
All,
Below is a web site with names and addresses of troops that are NOT receiving mail from family and friends back home.
If you every been in the military, I am sure there is nothing more hurting when it's time for mail call and there is none for you.
I took the time to write to seven of these men and women; all it cost is the price of a US stamp. These name range from privates to Coporals....this is a sadthing.
http://www.radiodelilah.com/Military/index.html#mail
Regards,
Darnella
----- Original Message -----
From: AZICE626@aol.com
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; solson8@qwest.net
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
ed....get some addy's (and your son's) for us....and tell your son THANKS!!!!!!....TJ
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81243 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:23am
Subject: Track bar??
Is there a bracker that will turn the frame end of the track bar horizonal instead of vertical like stock? I have the RE adjustable bar on there but it looks like it would work better mounted horizonal.
Thanks
Keith
81244 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:06am
Subject: Jeep Windows
I am looking for a set of zip out windows for a BestTopTiger top. I want
the back side windows and the rear window. The plastic doesn't need to be
in good shape as I will be taking it out. If you have recently
purchased a
new top or new windows for a soft top and want to get rid of the old ones
let me know I will take them off your hands. I have a 1978 CJ 7.
Please contact privately at : 4critter@f...
Thanks, Becky
81245 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:18am
Subject: Re: BLM Meeting in Prescott
I love the idea of "Jeep cams" (not for simulators :-)). On a recent
4x4 trip I hooked up our VHS-C camera to a RAM mount I placed on the
bump stop and inside the cab and got some neat footage. Others have
small cameras mounted underneath that are hooked up to a recorder for
later viewing. Here are some from a guy I know in California:
http://www.tommyjeep.addr.com/videos/jeep_cam1.htm
--------------
Bill - Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Bruce....I did not take your comments concerning the Jeep cam in any
> kind of negative way. It is certainly possible that it might very
well
> happen and one will have to relive someone else's trek down the
trail
> via a simulator. For the parking lot cowboys, this might be the
> e-ticket ride of their life! LOL
>
> As for actually using it on the trail, you are certainly correct.
What
> better way to evaluate your recently completed suspension project.
I
> have a friend of mine on the east coast who has modified a FRS
radio and
> uses it to "listen" to the underside of his vehicle during "find the
> clunk" troubleshooting sessions. It works amazingly well and
virtually
> eliminates the guessing involved when attempting to determine the
source
> of the sound from the driver's seat doing 20 MPH on a dirt road.
Ain't
> technology great!
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
.
.
.
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81246 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:25am
Subject: [OT] Support Our Troops
After reading all the posts lately I'm saddened by certain responses. I also
spent 9 yrs in the Army. I am very patriotic. I am involved in a military
color guard where we march in many parades to honor our veterans and current
servicemen and women.
Why dont you think what we did Saturday did any good? All it takes is a
soldiers family see what we did and write to their son or daughter about
what they saw. Thats all I would need to feel better. I wouldnt need to
actually see it. I would just want to know that someone back home is
supporting what they are doing. Yes, a good welcome home is what they are
going to get but they are also going to get my full support WHILE they are
gone, whether it be standing on a corner or driving around displaying flags
and honking horns, writing emails which we are doing or sending care
packages.
There was a couple things I saw this weekend that made me smile and made me
feel what we were doing was not only right but necessary. While we were
driving past the National Guard there were a few people (I would bet
soldiers) were having a BBQ in the front yard, as they seen us driving past
two of them jumped up and ran like hell yelling and clapping to the street.
The look on their faces made it well worth it. Another point was driving
around the capitol, their was a lady sitting with her children at a bus stop
half way down the road, she heard us honking the horns and they all stood up
and clapped. While there were hundreds more kind acts Saturday, those two
stood out. We had hundreds of honks, thumbs up and I still get it driving
down the road by myself. Even had people slowing down just to give a thumbs
up then going on their way.
I also feel what we are doing is not only for our troops but for the
families of the troops and veterans. Everyone that I talk to was very
supportive of what we did and I'm sure the word got out. I am very proud of
the turnout we had for the very short notice we had. Thanks to all who
showed and took the time to do show their support. I am looking at doing
this again this coming weekend.
I made a new website yesterday to see if anyone would want to continue our
support to keep this out of the AZVJC. Or we could just keep it OT. I dont
want anyone to get into any debates on the site as I have seen many other
subjects that are OT but they continue for a long period of time. Let me
know what you all think?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SupportOurTroopsAZ
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81247 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:27am
Subject: anaconda
Ran Anaconda yesterday with Rob from 4 Wheelers Supply. Wow what a rush. Lots of body damage and left purple paint all over the walls. Great fun.
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81248 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:43am
Subject: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
I found this on the JU board this A.M. :)
Steven Campbell
Chirac Vows to Say No to Everything, Forever
Just moments after U.S. Special Operations forces discovered what appeared to be a 100-acre chemical weapons plant south of Baghdad, French President Jacques Chirac appeared on national television to announce that France was vetoing the discovery.
“The United States may think they have found a chemical weapons plant, but I say, no, they haven’t,” Mr. Chirac said. “And they can’t make me say they have.”
Throughout his speech, an unyielding Chirac said that no matter what the U.S. finds in Iraq in the future, he would use his “super-veto powers” to nullify any discoveries they might make.
In just one example of his intentions, the French President said that even if the U.S. produced a videotape of Saddam Hussein launching a nuclear missile tipped with chemical and biological weapons, he would veto that tape “without batting an eye.”
“Veto, c’est moi,” Chirac added.
Turning his attention to the NCAA basketball tournament, the French President said he was “rejecting” the results of the weekend game between Maryland and Xavier, adding that Xavier, not Maryland should be on the road to the NCAA championship.
“Contrary to reports that Maryland defeated Xavier 77-64, I maintain that in fact Xavier triumphed over Maryland, 108-62,” Chirac said.
In Washington, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer called Mr. Chirac “delusional,” adding, “It’s kind of sad.”
But within minutes, President Chirac offered a spirited response, saying, “Who is this Ari Fleischer? I say he does not exist.”
81249 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:13am
Subject: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
> Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
> divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
> unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
> everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
ever
> met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
> get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
> AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
> want to read them.
>
> Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
does
> appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
> it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
fellow
> soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
it
> was worth it, in my opinion.
>
> The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
other
> vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
positive
> (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
> to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
> troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
> where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
opposing
> view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
> wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
a
> family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
proud
> to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
> Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
>
> I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
> Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
there
> will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
> would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
and
> I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
get
> more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
> run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
and
> if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
> TROOPS.
>
> BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
> convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
>
> Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
a
> wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
> military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
> To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
> prayers are with them and you.
>
> Bill Hooven
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
Saturday
> was my
> > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
> before the
> > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
little
> sister
> > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
> supporting
> > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
> known.
> > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
it
> sucks to
> > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
> the
> > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
> home and
> > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
> in 91 and
> > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
> believed
> > in.
> >
> > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
> whatever it
> > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
> kids. But I
> > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
asked.
> I even
> > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
> >
> > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
> jeep I need
> > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
> club with
> > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
our
> troops
> > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
you
> may
> > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
military
> brothers
> > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
> troops.
> >
> > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
emailed
> me off
> > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
> > I am off my soap box.
> >
> > Bonnie
> > "Hail to the Redskins"
> >
81250 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:56am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Those cheese-eating croissant-dipping accordian-playing
peace-mongering surrender monkeys! !@#%%^#
At 08:43 AM 3/24/03 -0700, steven.campbell wrote:
> I found this on the JU board this A.M. :) Steven Campbell Chirac
>Vows to Say No to Everything, Forever
>
>Just moments after U.S. Special Operations forces discovered what appeared
>to be a 100-acre chemical weapons plant south of Baghdad, French President
>Jacques Chirac appeared on national television to announce that France was
>vetoing the discovery.
>
>“The United States may think they have found a chemical weapons plant, but
>I say, no, they haven’t,” Mr. Chirac said. “And they can’t make me say
>they have.”
>
>Throughout his speech, an unyielding Chirac said that no matter what the
>U.S. finds in Iraq in the future, he would use his “super-veto powers” to
>nullify any discoveries they might make.
>
>In just one example of his intentions, the French President said that even
>if the U.S. produced a videotape of Saddam Hussein launching a nuclear
>missile tipped with chemical and biological weapons, he would veto that
>tape “without batting an eye.”
>
>“Veto, c’est moi,” Chirac added.
>
>Turning his attention to the NCAA basketball tournament, the French
>President said he was “rejecting” the results of the weekend game between
>Maryland and Xavier, adding that Xavier, not Maryland should be on the road
>to the NCAA championship.
>
>“Contrary to reports that Maryland defeated Xavier 77-64, I maintain that
>in fact Xavier triumphed over Maryland, 108-62,” Chirac said.
>
>In Washington, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer called Mr. Chirac
>“delusional,” adding, “It’s kind of sad.”
>
>But within minutes, President Chirac offered a spirited response, saying,
>“Who is this Ari Fleischer? I say he does not exist.”
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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81251 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:56am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I'm in. Jeep should be out of shop this week.
Tony
At 04:13 PM 3/24/03 -0000, sharxjeep wrote:
> Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
>ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
>
>Sharky
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
>> Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
>> divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
>> unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
>> everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
>ever
>> met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
>> get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
>> AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
>> want to read them.
>>
>> Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
>does
>> appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
>> it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
>fellow
>> soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
>it
>> was worth it, in my opinion.
>>
>> The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
>other
>> vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
>positive
>> (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
>> to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
>> troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
>> where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
>opposing
>> view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
>> wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
>a
>> family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
>proud
>> to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
>> Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
>> Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
>there
>> will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
>> would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
>and
>> I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
>get
>> more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
>> run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
>and
>> if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
>> TROOPS.
>>
>> BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
>> convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
>>
>> Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
>a
>> wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
>> military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
>> To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
>> prayers are with them and you.
>>
>> Bill Hooven
>>
>>
>> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
>> > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
>Saturday
>> was my
>> > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
>> before the
>> > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
>little
>> sister
>> > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
>> supporting
>> > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
>> known.
>> > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
>it
>> sucks to
>> > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
>> the
>> > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
>> home and
>> > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
>> in 91 and
>> > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
>> believed
>> > in.
>> >
>> > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
>> whatever it
>> > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
>> kids. But I
>> > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
>asked.
>> I even
>> > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
>> >
>> > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
>> jeep I need
>> > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
>> club with
>> > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
>our
>> troops
>> > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
>you
>> may
>> > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
>military
>> brothers
>> > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
>> troops.
>> >
>> > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
>emailed
>> me off
>> > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
>> > I am off my soap box.
>> >
>> > Bonnie
>> > "Hail to the Redskins"
>> >
>
>
>
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81252 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:00am
Subject: Re: [OT] Support Our Troops
This is not off-topic, imo, and in addition to Jeff's new
web site we definitely SHOULD keep this thread on the list.
Tony
At 08:25 AM 3/24/03 -0700, jeff.trujillo@m... wrote:
>After reading all the posts lately I'm saddened by certain responses. I also
>spent 9 yrs in the Army. I am very patriotic. I am involved in a military
>color guard where we march in many parades to honor our veterans and current
>servicemen and women.
>Why dont you think what we did Saturday did any good? All it takes is a
>soldiers family see what we did and write to their son or daughter about
>what they saw. Thats all I would need to feel better. I wouldnt need to
>actually see it. I would just want to know that someone back home is
>supporting what they are doing. Yes, a good welcome home is what they are
>going to get but they are also going to get my full support WHILE they are
>gone, whether it be standing on a corner or driving around displaying flags
>and honking horns, writing emails which we are doing or sending care
>packages.
>
>There was a couple things I saw this weekend that made me smile and made me
>feel what we were doing was not only right but necessary. While we were
>driving past the National Guard there were a few people (I would bet
>soldiers) were having a BBQ in the front yard, as they seen us driving past
>two of them jumped up and ran like hell yelling and clapping to the street.
>The look on their faces made it well worth it. Another point was driving
>around the capitol, their was a lady sitting with her children at a bus stop
>half way down the road, she heard us honking the horns and they all stood up
>and clapped. While there were hundreds more kind acts Saturday, those two
>stood out. We had hundreds of honks, thumbs up and I still get it driving
>down the road by myself. Even had people slowing down just to give a thumbs
>up then going on their way.
>
>I also feel what we are doing is not only for our troops but for the
>families of the troops and veterans. Everyone that I talk to was very
>supportive of what we did and I'm sure the word got out. I am very proud of
>the turnout we had for the very short notice we had. Thanks to all who
>showed and took the time to do show their support. I am looking at doing
>this again this coming weekend.
>
>I made a new website yesterday to see if anyone would want to continue our
>support to keep this out of the AZVJC. Or we could just keep it OT. I dont
>want anyone to get into any debates on the site as I have seen many other
>subjects that are OT but they continue for a long period of time. Let me
>know what you all think?
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SupportOurTroopsAZ
>
>Jeffrey A. Trujillo
>Field Service Representative
>MD Helicopters, Inc.
>jeff.trujillo@m...
>Voice:(480)346-6249
>Fax:(480)346-6813
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81253 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:32am
Subject: Help Support Our Troops
You are all invited to join this group designed to HELP Support Our Troops.
Our mission is to do "runs" and drive around the city's and show our support
on the weekends. We have already done one "Support Our Troops run" this past
saturday and got hundreds if not thousands of positive feedback from the
citizens. We drove around Mesa, Tempe, Phoenix around the Capitol, National
Guard, VA Hospital and the Veterans Home. These runs are peaceful
car-a-thons to show our support and in no way a means of backlashing out at
anti-war protestors (even though we may drive by them a few times). If you
want to go on some "runs" then have the flags, banners and horns ready to
show your Support. Lets show our Troops, their families and our Veterans
that someone does care and support what they are doing.
Thanks and God Bless,
SGT. Jeffrey A. Trujillo
U.S. Army-9 years
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199th Infantry Brigade
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81254 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:18am
Subject: new fab shop
There's a new fab shop near Broadway Road and
Extension in Mesa:
Advance-Tech
452 S. Extension #1
Mesa, Arizona 85210
480-969-5900
They just finished an internal roll cage on
my 94 YJ and I am very pleased with their work.
Tony
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81255 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Well like they say," Going to war without the French is like going hunting
without your accordian"
81256 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:44am
Subject: RE: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Wow, this post really riles up some people. I have noticed that people
really identify you as either being on their side or being on the other
side. I often hear the words "which side of the fence" or you "sit on the
fence". I did not realize there was a fence. I thought the world was full of
individuals who all had the right to think and come up with their own
opinions. I lean right wing by nature but refuse to let anyone label me as
such. I'm an individual and will stand up for my ideas as such. I won't jump
on any bandwagon nor will I follow the right if its wrong. On the other hand
most what the left does makes me sick to my stomach but there are times that
they too have ok ideas.
I'm starting to think that some of you skim over some of these posts and
prematurely shoot your next message off without reading the entire post. I
see lots of emotional responses without much evidence of any thought being
put into them.
I saw an interesting interview that Geraldo did with one of the soldiers in
Afghanistan. The soldier said that he was fighting as much for the right of
those people to demonstrate for the war as he was for those demonstrating
against it. They are fighting for freedom and the last time I checked this
included the opinions of those that you may not like or disagree with. This
really struck me as being right on. If the soldiers over there realizes this
then why can't all the armchair quarterbacks back home? You can argue with
the other side all day and it will get you no where. You are as unlikely to
change their opinion as they are yours. Instead we should all respect each
others opinion and quit making it a personal matter. We are all here to go
Jeeping and enjoy the comraderie from such Jeeping.
Bless the troops!
Regards,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
What is wrong with you? You need to get out more. You think that
that is the only reason to rally in support? What have you seen on
the local news and CNN when they are not covering the war? Anti-war
rallys. What's wrong with trying to get some pro-war attention? You
don't think that our guys over there don't get CNN? The only time
they see anything on their right now from the home front is about how
many protesters there are. If we could get enough people to do some
GOOD to support what we are trying to do over there, maybe they will
pick that up and let them see that there are more people here that
support what they are doing (a recent poll found that 2/3 of the US
population SUPPORTS the war) that oppose it. They might keep their
spirits up and come home safely. There are MANY ways to show
support, ALL of which are worth doing!
Do you think that Saddam cares how we treat thier POWs? He WANTS
them dead! How screwed up is that?! How scared do you think they
are about being "tried as war criminals". What does that mean? We
will put them in a camp and feed and take care of them? Whoopie!
They will be treated better than they are now. Wea re fighting a war
that is LONG overdue. He is a tyrannical, selfish, ruthless dictator
that has NO concern for human life (even his own supporters!) other
than his own!
If you like your Jeep and the freedom to go out on a trail,
support what they are doing. If you are against what they are trying
to do, move to France. Flame away! ! !
If you have other "anti-war" opinions that you'd like to share
with reasons and rational thoughts, please, inform me. I'd love to
hear why you don't think this is a worthy cause. I haven't heard
anyone that has said their views why they don't agree. Keep it off
post if you don't want to share with the group. I really want to
know your reasons. If no one can give me any, then why are we even
debating this?
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Great post Stu. I think the pro troop rally's just make those who
attend
> them feel all warm and tingly inside.
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81257 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:58am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I agree that everyone has the right to their own opinion. I said that in my message. When you call people that are actually DOING SOMETHING, "armchair quarterbacks", that is ridiculous. What are you doing? Sitting at your comp. callingnames of poking fun ("warm and fuzzy inside" comes to mind). If you have another opiniono of why we shouldn't be there, please, explain yourself. I have my views but am open to hear other thoughts and ideas. I, as much as most anyone, don't like war. But, at this time, I think that it's the only option we have left. What do you think Scott? Instead of trying to shade your views and avoid giving your opinion, share with everyone why you believe the way you do. Use that right that our troops are defending instead of hiding behind it.
Mike Anderson
81258 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:34am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Oh, and did I mention that they love Jerry Lewis movies? Sick *******s.
At 09:48 AM 3/24/03 -0700, Keith wrote:
>Well like they say," Going to war without the French is like going hunting
>without your accordian"
>
>
>
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81259 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I, too, attended the run to support our troops and would be more than happy
to attend another one. I think it was a positive experience all the way
around.
I'm truly disappointed that many people here are complaining that a run to
show support for our troops is OT and that it shouldn't be posted on the
"trips" page so that we can gather as many people as possible who want to
attend.
Tsk! Tsk!
Jan
At 04:13 PM 3/24/03 +0000, sharxjeep wrote:
> Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
>ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
>
>Sharky
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
> > Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
> > divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
> > unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
> > everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
>ever
> > met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
> > get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
> > AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
> > want to read them.
> >
> > Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
>does
> > appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
> > it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
>fellow
> > soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
>it
> > was worth it, in my opinion.
> >
> > The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
>other
> > vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
>positive
> > (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
> > to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
> > troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
> > where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
>opposing
> > view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
> > wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
>a
> > family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
>proud
> > to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
> > Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
> >
> > I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
> > Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
>there
> > will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
> > would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
>and
> > I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
>get
> > more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
> > run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
>and
> > if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
> > TROOPS.
> >
> > BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
> > convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
> >
> > Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
>a
> > wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
> > military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
> > To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
> > prayers are with them and you.
> >
> > Bill Hooven
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> > > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
>Saturday
> > was my
> > > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
> > before the
> > > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
>little
> > sister
> > > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
> > supporting
> > > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
> > known.
> > > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
>it
> > sucks to
> > > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
> > the
> > > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
> > home and
> > > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
> > in 91 and
> > > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
> > believed
> > > in.
> > >
> > > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
> > whatever it
> > > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
> > kids. But I
> > > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
>asked.
> > I even
> > > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
> > >
> > > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
> > jeep I need
> > > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
> > club with
> > > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
>our
> > troops
> > > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
>you
> > may
> > > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
>military
> > brothers
> > > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
> > troops.
> > >
> > > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
>emailed
> > me off
> > > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
> > > I am off my soap box.
> > >
> > > Bonnie
> > > "Hail to the Redskins"
> > >
>
>
>
>
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81260 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:04am
Subject: RE: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Mike,
Armchair quarterbacks means most american people. It was not directly people at you or any other member.
Calm down. We probably agree more on this stuff than you realize.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: MSA12171@aol.com [mailto:MSA12171@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:58 AM
To: skruize@cox.net; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I agree that everyone has the right to their own opinion. I said that in my message. When you call people that are actually DOING SOMETHING, "armchair quarterbacks", that is ridiculous. What are you doing? Sitting at your comp. callingnames of poking fun ("warm and fuzzy inside" comes to mind). If you have another opiniono of why we shouldn't be there, please, explain yourself. I have my views but am open to hear other thoughts and ideas. I, as much as most anyone, don't like war. But, at this time, I think that it's the only option we have left. What do you think Scott? Instead of trying to shade your views and avoid giving your opinion, share with everyone why you believe the way you do. Use that right that our troops are defending instead of hiding behind it.
Mike Anderson
81261 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:59am
Subject: Re: AZ OHV Misses the Boat Important!!!
I believe if (when?) these funds go away, so does Tammy Pike's
position within the State Land Department. Tammy is an OHV advocate
and is one of our best supporters among the agency folks. We do not
want to lose her voice.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> About 3 weeks ago the State Legislators raided the OHV fund.
I was as
> guilty as everyone else for not understanding how much we had to
lose due to
> this. In this e-mail I will try to give you all the info I can and
two
> sample letters that we can use together to send and e-mail and
letter to
> everyone's State Senators and Representatives. I would suggest that
we also
> send them to the State Land Director and the Governor I will supply
those
> addresses also. This is a large blow to us and if not addressed
could get
> even worse. We need Thousands of letters not just the usual group
that
> always gets involved. I would suggest you get any friends and
family to do
> this also. I will try and make it as easy as I can. Do not just
send a copy
> of either of the sample letters combine them or add a couple lines
of your
> own. This is a small price to pay to keep our form of recreation.
Many
> thanks to Stu Olson for his help. Jim F.
81237 From: Allan Alexander <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:32pm
Subject: Mud & Shine Sound bar?
I have been looking into getting a sound bar for my YJ... I came across the Mud & Shine Sound bar and kind of liked it. Anyone used one or know anything about them. This is the one I have been looking at:
http://www.tellico4x4.com/sound/Bars.htm#mud
http://www.tellico4x4.com/images/sound_1.jpg
"The Mud & Shine 3-way system uses a 6" mica woofer with a buryl rubber surround and 10 oz Magnet, a 2 1/2" high compliance midrange and a 1" tweeter with a neodymium magnet and ferrofluid for superior dispersion and efficiency. The tweeters also swivel to adjust imaging. Power handling is 100 watts per side (200 watts total) and includes a crossover network. Available in black, gray or spice."
Thanks for the Help/information...
Allan
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81238 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:55pm
Subject: Re: fuel injectors??
Hi Keith
Just did my 87 last week with Fords. Work great and only $90 a set compared
to ~$60 a piece for Jeeps. Ordered them from here
http://www.karkraft.com/performance_parts.htm but it doesn't look like they
have them now. Might give them a call or email. You can also order them from
FiveO Motor Sport http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_Sets.html
for $123.60 for a set of 6. The D5b-19lb are the ones I used.
Keith
81239 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 10:10pm
Subject: Re: Need CB Radio
I want to thank those of you who respond, for your help, cause I had no clue.
Purple, please bring the hand held just in case, if I am not able to install the one I get.
Knowing me, I will get struck somewhere, being I am driving a stock but supercharged Jeep.
She goes by the name "SNOW".
D~
----- Original Message -----
From: purple
To: Stu Olson ; 'Darnella' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
I just bought one at a yard sale for five bucks . I have also purchased some of the hand held ones for twenty bucks used . Not as good of range but no install needed . If you would like to borrow a hand held one from me for the next trip you are welcome to .
Just some more things to think about . 602 788-5889 is the home # and my pager is 602 270-5610 .
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 1:36 PM
To: 'Darnella'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
Darnella,
Some folks get them at Walmart, K-Mart, Target, or Radio Shack. Others prefer to get them from a CB radio shop. Apollo Communications is one that comes to mind (on the west side of the valley). You will get a bit more “hand holding”, so to speak, at a CB shop since they specialize in it. At one of the other places, it is pretty much a self-serve from the shelf.
I know some folks on the list have had good customer service at some of the shops and they will hopefully chime in with a recommendation.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Darnella [mailto:Zesty1@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:02 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Need CB Radio
Hi Ladies and Gents.,
Would anyone have or know where I can purchase a CB Radio? I am not familar with that sort of thing.
I would like to have it and installed before the run next weekend.
Darnella C.
'98 Grand
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81240 From: Darnella <Zesty1@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:26pm
Subject: Re: [OT]Support Our Troops
All,
Below is a web site with names and addresses of troops that are NOT receiving mail from family and friends back home.
If you every been in the military, I am sure there is nothing more hurting when it's time for mail call and there is none for you.
I took the time to write to seven of these men and women; all it cost is the price of a US stamp. These name range from privates to Coporals....this is a sadthing.
http://www.radiodelilah.com/Military/index.html#mail
Regards,
Darnella
----- Original Message -----
From: AZICE626@aol.com
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; solson8@qwest.net
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
ed....get some addy's (and your son's) for us....and tell your son THANKS!!!!!!....TJ
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81241 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 5:58am
Subject: Re: Re: My Willys Diary - entry 1
Yeah, Like the world needs another yellow Jeep.
:-P
Chris
On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 11:06 PM, Mike H. wrote:
>
> YELLOW! YELLOW!
>
> Mike H.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Amanda Halverson <lil_willys_jpr@y...>
> wrote:
>> Sunday, March 23, 2003
>>
>> Today was a great day to work on a Jeep and an even better
> day to start the long process of restoring a 1951 Willys CJ-3A. As
> some of you may know my father, John Halverson, and I, Amanda, have
> acquired a Willys Jeep for the sole purpose of restoring it and
> giving it to me when I turn 16. We have been doing little things to
> it like changing the oil and fixing the brakes but today we finally
> started in on the big tough stuff!
>>
>>
>> First we took off the hood, after carefully taking pictures and
> writing on index cards so as to not forget how to put it back
> together. We then put paint stripper on it. We got a little anxious
> while waiting the grueling 30 minutes for the paint remover to work
> so we decided to take off the left fender, more taking pictures and
> writing. While the LEFT fender sat with the paint stripper on it we
> took off the RIGHT fender.
>>
>>
>> We worked and worked with putty knives scraping and scraping, both
> wondering silently about the burning sensation in our hands. I could
> no longer stand the pain and voiced my discomfort. We both realized
> that it probably wasn't the best idea to let something that could
> virtually melt paint on our bare skin. Two pairs of gloves each and
> about 4 coats of paint stripper later we discovered that there had
> been about 5 separate coats of paint on the hood and one or two
> various blotches of lime green.
>>
>>
>> We have it mostly stripped down, we had to stop because a recent
> illness had left us (me) slightly weaker than normal. As we came down
> to the last coat of paint I noticed that the Willys lettering was
> orange and the rest of the hood tan. Is this normal to have the
> lettering a different color?, and if so does the color of the letters
> usually coordinate with the color of, say, the wheels?
>>
>>
>> By the way I am having a little trouble deciding what color I
> should paint my Jeep. My dad is going for Harvest tan with Luzon red
> wheels, while I want just the opposite. I think that it should be red
> so as to draw attention to the awesomeness of my Willys. Please email
> me with your opinions and comments lil_willys_jpr@y...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for listening to my little story of today's events, I hope
> it wasn't too boring! Please respond with any information you have,
> it is GREATLY appreciated.
>>
>>
>> Amanda Halverson
>>
>>
>> Amanda Halverson
>>
>> 1951 Willys CJ-3A
>>
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81242 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:07am
Subject: RE: [OT]Support Our Troops
Darnella,
Thanks for the link. I will be writting some letters.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Darnella [mailto:Zesty1@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:26 AM
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; solson8@qwest.net; AZICE626@aol.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
Importance: High
All,
Below is a web site with names and addresses of troops that are NOT receiving mail from family and friends back home.
If you every been in the military, I am sure there is nothing more hurting when it's time for mail call and there is none for you.
I took the time to write to seven of these men and women; all it cost is the price of a US stamp. These name range from privates to Coporals....this is a sadthing.
http://www.radiodelilah.com/Military/index.html#mail
Regards,
Darnella
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From: AZICE626@aol.com
To: coyoteddie@earthlink.net ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; solson8@qwest.net
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Support Our Troops
ed....get some addy's (and your son's) for us....and tell your son THANKS!!!!!!....TJ
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81243 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:23am
Subject: Track bar??
Is there a bracker that will turn the frame end of the track bar horizonal instead of vertical like stock? I have the RE adjustable bar on there but it looks like it would work better mounted horizonal.
Thanks
Keith
81244 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:06am
Subject: Jeep Windows
I am looking for a set of zip out windows for a BestTopTiger top. I want
the back side windows and the rear window. The plastic doesn't need to be
in good shape as I will be taking it out. If you have recently
purchased a
new top or new windows for a soft top and want to get rid of the old ones
let me know I will take them off your hands. I have a 1978 CJ 7.
Please contact privately at : 4critter@f...
Thanks, Becky
81245 From: Bill <bill@j...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:18am
Subject: Re: BLM Meeting in Prescott
I love the idea of "Jeep cams" (not for simulators :-)). On a recent
4x4 trip I hooked up our VHS-C camera to a RAM mount I placed on the
bump stop and inside the cab and got some neat footage. Others have
small cameras mounted underneath that are hooked up to a recorder for
later viewing. Here are some from a guy I know in California:
http://www.tommyjeep.addr.com/videos/jeep_cam1.htm
--------------
Bill - Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Bruce....I did not take your comments concerning the Jeep cam in any
> kind of negative way. It is certainly possible that it might very
well
> happen and one will have to relive someone else's trek down the
trail
> via a simulator. For the parking lot cowboys, this might be the
> e-ticket ride of their life! LOL
>
> As for actually using it on the trail, you are certainly correct.
What
> better way to evaluate your recently completed suspension project.
I
> have a friend of mine on the east coast who has modified a FRS
radio and
> uses it to "listen" to the underside of his vehicle during "find the
> clunk" troubleshooting sessions. It works amazingly well and
virtually
> eliminates the guessing involved when attempting to determine the
source
> of the sound from the driver's seat doing 20 MPH on a dirt road.
Ain't
> technology great!
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
.
.
.
.<clipped>
81246 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:25am
Subject: [OT] Support Our Troops
After reading all the posts lately I'm saddened by certain responses. I also
spent 9 yrs in the Army. I am very patriotic. I am involved in a military
color guard where we march in many parades to honor our veterans and current
servicemen and women.
Why dont you think what we did Saturday did any good? All it takes is a
soldiers family see what we did and write to their son or daughter about
what they saw. Thats all I would need to feel better. I wouldnt need to
actually see it. I would just want to know that someone back home is
supporting what they are doing. Yes, a good welcome home is what they are
going to get but they are also going to get my full support WHILE they are
gone, whether it be standing on a corner or driving around displaying flags
and honking horns, writing emails which we are doing or sending care
packages.
There was a couple things I saw this weekend that made me smile and made me
feel what we were doing was not only right but necessary. While we were
driving past the National Guard there were a few people (I would bet
soldiers) were having a BBQ in the front yard, as they seen us driving past
two of them jumped up and ran like hell yelling and clapping to the street.
The look on their faces made it well worth it. Another point was driving
around the capitol, their was a lady sitting with her children at a bus stop
half way down the road, she heard us honking the horns and they all stood up
and clapped. While there were hundreds more kind acts Saturday, those two
stood out. We had hundreds of honks, thumbs up and I still get it driving
down the road by myself. Even had people slowing down just to give a thumbs
up then going on their way.
I also feel what we are doing is not only for our troops but for the
families of the troops and veterans. Everyone that I talk to was very
supportive of what we did and I'm sure the word got out. I am very proud of
the turnout we had for the very short notice we had. Thanks to all who
showed and took the time to do show their support. I am looking at doing
this again this coming weekend.
I made a new website yesterday to see if anyone would want to continue our
support to keep this out of the AZVJC. Or we could just keep it OT. I dont
want anyone to get into any debates on the site as I have seen many other
subjects that are OT but they continue for a long period of time. Let me
know what you all think?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SupportOurTroopsAZ
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
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81247 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:27am
Subject: anaconda
Ran Anaconda yesterday with Rob from 4 Wheelers Supply. Wow what a rush. Lots of body damage and left purple paint all over the walls. Great fun.
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81248 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 7:43am
Subject: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
I found this on the JU board this A.M. :)
Steven Campbell
Chirac Vows to Say No to Everything, Forever
Just moments after U.S. Special Operations forces discovered what appeared to be a 100-acre chemical weapons plant south of Baghdad, French President Jacques Chirac appeared on national television to announce that France was vetoing the discovery.
“The United States may think they have found a chemical weapons plant, but I say, no, they haven’t,” Mr. Chirac said. “And they can’t make me say they have.”
Throughout his speech, an unyielding Chirac said that no matter what the U.S. finds in Iraq in the future, he would use his “super-veto powers” to nullify any discoveries they might make.
In just one example of his intentions, the French President said that even if the U.S. produced a videotape of Saddam Hussein launching a nuclear missile tipped with chemical and biological weapons, he would veto that tape “without batting an eye.”
“Veto, c’est moi,” Chirac added.
Turning his attention to the NCAA basketball tournament, the French President said he was “rejecting” the results of the weekend game between Maryland and Xavier, adding that Xavier, not Maryland should be on the road to the NCAA championship.
“Contrary to reports that Maryland defeated Xavier 77-64, I maintain that in fact Xavier triumphed over Maryland, 108-62,” Chirac said.
In Washington, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer called Mr. Chirac “delusional,” adding, “It’s kind of sad.”
But within minutes, President Chirac offered a spirited response, saying, “Who is this Ari Fleischer? I say he does not exist.”
81249 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:13am
Subject: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
> Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
> divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
> unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
> everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
ever
> met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
> get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
> AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
> want to read them.
>
> Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
does
> appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
> it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
fellow
> soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
it
> was worth it, in my opinion.
>
> The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
other
> vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
positive
> (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
> to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
> troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
> where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
opposing
> view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
> wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
a
> family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
proud
> to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
> Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
>
> I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
> Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
there
> will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
> would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
and
> I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
get
> more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
> run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
and
> if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
> TROOPS.
>
> BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
> convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
>
> Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
a
> wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
> military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
> To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
> prayers are with them and you.
>
> Bill Hooven
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
Saturday
> was my
> > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
> before the
> > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
little
> sister
> > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
> supporting
> > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
> known.
> > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
it
> sucks to
> > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
> the
> > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
> home and
> > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
> in 91 and
> > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
> believed
> > in.
> >
> > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
> whatever it
> > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
> kids. But I
> > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
asked.
> I even
> > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
> >
> > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
> jeep I need
> > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
> club with
> > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
our
> troops
> > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
you
> may
> > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
military
> brothers
> > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
> troops.
> >
> > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
emailed
> me off
> > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
> > I am off my soap box.
> >
> > Bonnie
> > "Hail to the Redskins"
> >
81250 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:56am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Those cheese-eating croissant-dipping accordian-playing
peace-mongering surrender monkeys! !@#%%^#
At 08:43 AM 3/24/03 -0700, steven.campbell wrote:
> I found this on the JU board this A.M. :) Steven Campbell Chirac
>Vows to Say No to Everything, Forever
>
>Just moments after U.S. Special Operations forces discovered what appeared
>to be a 100-acre chemical weapons plant south of Baghdad, French President
>Jacques Chirac appeared on national television to announce that France was
>vetoing the discovery.
>
>“The United States may think they have found a chemical weapons plant, but
>I say, no, they haven’t,” Mr. Chirac said. “And they can’t make me say
>they have.”
>
>Throughout his speech, an unyielding Chirac said that no matter what the
>U.S. finds in Iraq in the future, he would use his “super-veto powers” to
>nullify any discoveries they might make.
>
>In just one example of his intentions, the French President said that even
>if the U.S. produced a videotape of Saddam Hussein launching a nuclear
>missile tipped with chemical and biological weapons, he would veto that
>tape “without batting an eye.”
>
>“Veto, c’est moi,” Chirac added.
>
>Turning his attention to the NCAA basketball tournament, the French
>President said he was “rejecting” the results of the weekend game between
>Maryland and Xavier, adding that Xavier, not Maryland should be on the road
>to the NCAA championship.
>
>“Contrary to reports that Maryland defeated Xavier 77-64, I maintain that
>in fact Xavier triumphed over Maryland, 108-62,” Chirac said.
>
>In Washington, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer called Mr. Chirac
>“delusional,” adding, “It’s kind of sad.”
>
>But within minutes, President Chirac offered a spirited response, saying,
>“Who is this Ari Fleischer? I say he does not exist.”
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81251 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:56am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I'm in. Jeep should be out of shop this week.
Tony
At 04:13 PM 3/24/03 -0000, sharxjeep wrote:
> Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
>ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
>
>Sharky
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
>> Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
>> divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
>> unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
>> everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
>ever
>> met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
>> get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
>> AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
>> want to read them.
>>
>> Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
>does
>> appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
>> it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
>fellow
>> soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
>it
>> was worth it, in my opinion.
>>
>> The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
>other
>> vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
>positive
>> (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
>> to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
>> troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
>> where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
>opposing
>> view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
>> wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
>a
>> family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
>proud
>> to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
>> Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
>>
>> I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
>> Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
>there
>> will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
>> would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
>and
>> I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
>get
>> more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
>> run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
>and
>> if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
>> TROOPS.
>>
>> BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
>> convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
>>
>> Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
>a
>> wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
>> military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
>> To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
>> prayers are with them and you.
>>
>> Bill Hooven
>>
>>
>> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
>> > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
>Saturday
>> was my
>> > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
>> before the
>> > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
>little
>> sister
>> > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
>> supporting
>> > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
>> known.
>> > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
>it
>> sucks to
>> > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
>> the
>> > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
>> home and
>> > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
>> in 91 and
>> > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
>> believed
>> > in.
>> >
>> > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
>> whatever it
>> > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
>> kids. But I
>> > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
>asked.
>> I even
>> > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
>> >
>> > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
>> jeep I need
>> > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
>> club with
>> > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
>our
>> troops
>> > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
>you
>> may
>> > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
>military
>> brothers
>> > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
>> troops.
>> >
>> > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
>emailed
>> me off
>> > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
>> > I am off my soap box.
>> >
>> > Bonnie
>> > "Hail to the Redskins"
>> >
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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81252 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:00am
Subject: Re: [OT] Support Our Troops
This is not off-topic, imo, and in addition to Jeff's new
web site we definitely SHOULD keep this thread on the list.
Tony
At 08:25 AM 3/24/03 -0700, jeff.trujillo@m... wrote:
>After reading all the posts lately I'm saddened by certain responses. I also
>spent 9 yrs in the Army. I am very patriotic. I am involved in a military
>color guard where we march in many parades to honor our veterans and current
>servicemen and women.
>Why dont you think what we did Saturday did any good? All it takes is a
>soldiers family see what we did and write to their son or daughter about
>what they saw. Thats all I would need to feel better. I wouldnt need to
>actually see it. I would just want to know that someone back home is
>supporting what they are doing. Yes, a good welcome home is what they are
>going to get but they are also going to get my full support WHILE they are
>gone, whether it be standing on a corner or driving around displaying flags
>and honking horns, writing emails which we are doing or sending care
>packages.
>
>There was a couple things I saw this weekend that made me smile and made me
>feel what we were doing was not only right but necessary. While we were
>driving past the National Guard there were a few people (I would bet
>soldiers) were having a BBQ in the front yard, as they seen us driving past
>two of them jumped up and ran like hell yelling and clapping to the street.
>The look on their faces made it well worth it. Another point was driving
>around the capitol, their was a lady sitting with her children at a bus stop
>half way down the road, she heard us honking the horns and they all stood up
>and clapped. While there were hundreds more kind acts Saturday, those two
>stood out. We had hundreds of honks, thumbs up and I still get it driving
>down the road by myself. Even had people slowing down just to give a thumbs
>up then going on their way.
>
>I also feel what we are doing is not only for our troops but for the
>families of the troops and veterans. Everyone that I talk to was very
>supportive of what we did and I'm sure the word got out. I am very proud of
>the turnout we had for the very short notice we had. Thanks to all who
>showed and took the time to do show their support. I am looking at doing
>this again this coming weekend.
>
>I made a new website yesterday to see if anyone would want to continue our
>support to keep this out of the AZVJC. Or we could just keep it OT. I dont
>want anyone to get into any debates on the site as I have seen many other
>subjects that are OT but they continue for a long period of time. Let me
>know what you all think?
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SupportOurTroopsAZ
>
>Jeffrey A. Trujillo
>Field Service Representative
>MD Helicopters, Inc.
>jeff.trujillo@m...
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81253 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:32am
Subject: Help Support Our Troops
You are all invited to join this group designed to HELP Support Our Troops.
Our mission is to do "runs" and drive around the city's and show our support
on the weekends. We have already done one "Support Our Troops run" this past
saturday and got hundreds if not thousands of positive feedback from the
citizens. We drove around Mesa, Tempe, Phoenix around the Capitol, National
Guard, VA Hospital and the Veterans Home. These runs are peaceful
car-a-thons to show our support and in no way a means of backlashing out at
anti-war protestors (even though we may drive by them a few times). If you
want to go on some "runs" then have the flags, banners and horns ready to
show your Support. Lets show our Troops, their families and our Veterans
that someone does care and support what they are doing.
Thanks and God Bless,
SGT. Jeffrey A. Trujillo
U.S. Army-9 years
75th Rangers
199th Infantry Brigade
3/2 Armored Calvary Regiment
52nd Aviation
82nd Airborne Division
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81254 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:18am
Subject: new fab shop
There's a new fab shop near Broadway Road and
Extension in Mesa:
Advance-Tech
452 S. Extension #1
Mesa, Arizona 85210
480-969-5900
They just finished an internal roll cage on
my 94 YJ and I am very pleased with their work.
Tony
--
even the safest course is fraught with peril
81255 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Well like they say," Going to war without the French is like going hunting
without your accordian"
81256 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:44am
Subject: RE: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Wow, this post really riles up some people. I have noticed that people
really identify you as either being on their side or being on the other
side. I often hear the words "which side of the fence" or you "sit on the
fence". I did not realize there was a fence. I thought the world was full of
individuals who all had the right to think and come up with their own
opinions. I lean right wing by nature but refuse to let anyone label me as
such. I'm an individual and will stand up for my ideas as such. I won't jump
on any bandwagon nor will I follow the right if its wrong. On the other hand
most what the left does makes me sick to my stomach but there are times that
they too have ok ideas.
I'm starting to think that some of you skim over some of these posts and
prematurely shoot your next message off without reading the entire post. I
see lots of emotional responses without much evidence of any thought being
put into them.
I saw an interesting interview that Geraldo did with one of the soldiers in
Afghanistan. The soldier said that he was fighting as much for the right of
those people to demonstrate for the war as he was for those demonstrating
against it. They are fighting for freedom and the last time I checked this
included the opinions of those that you may not like or disagree with. This
really struck me as being right on. If the soldiers over there realizes this
then why can't all the armchair quarterbacks back home? You can argue with
the other side all day and it will get you no where. You are as unlikely to
change their opinion as they are yours. Instead we should all respect each
others opinion and quit making it a personal matter. We are all here to go
Jeeping and enjoy the comraderie from such Jeeping.
Bless the troops!
Regards,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:msa12171@a...]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
What is wrong with you? You need to get out more. You think that
that is the only reason to rally in support? What have you seen on
the local news and CNN when they are not covering the war? Anti-war
rallys. What's wrong with trying to get some pro-war attention? You
don't think that our guys over there don't get CNN? The only time
they see anything on their right now from the home front is about how
many protesters there are. If we could get enough people to do some
GOOD to support what we are trying to do over there, maybe they will
pick that up and let them see that there are more people here that
support what they are doing (a recent poll found that 2/3 of the US
population SUPPORTS the war) that oppose it. They might keep their
spirits up and come home safely. There are MANY ways to show
support, ALL of which are worth doing!
Do you think that Saddam cares how we treat thier POWs? He WANTS
them dead! How screwed up is that?! How scared do you think they
are about being "tried as war criminals". What does that mean? We
will put them in a camp and feed and take care of them? Whoopie!
They will be treated better than they are now. Wea re fighting a war
that is LONG overdue. He is a tyrannical, selfish, ruthless dictator
that has NO concern for human life (even his own supporters!) other
than his own!
If you like your Jeep and the freedom to go out on a trail,
support what they are doing. If you are against what they are trying
to do, move to France. Flame away! ! !
If you have other "anti-war" opinions that you'd like to share
with reasons and rational thoughts, please, inform me. I'd love to
hear why you don't think this is a worthy cause. I haven't heard
anyone that has said their views why they don't agree. Keep it off
post if you don't want to share with the group. I really want to
know your reasons. If no one can give me any, then why are we even
debating this?
Mike Anderson
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Great post Stu. I think the pro troop rally's just make those who
attend
> them feel all warm and tingly inside.
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81257 From: <msa12171@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 3:58am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I agree that everyone has the right to their own opinion. I said that in my message. When you call people that are actually DOING SOMETHING, "armchair quarterbacks", that is ridiculous. What are you doing? Sitting at your comp. callingnames of poking fun ("warm and fuzzy inside" comes to mind). If you have another opiniono of why we shouldn't be there, please, explain yourself. I have my views but am open to hear other thoughts and ideas. I, as much as most anyone, don't like war. But, at this time, I think that it's the only option we have left. What do you think Scott? Instead of trying to shade your views and avoid giving your opinion, share with everyone why you believe the way you do. Use that right that our troops are defending instead of hiding behind it.
Mike Anderson
81258 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:34am
Subject: Re: FRANCE VETOES CHEMICAL WEAPONS FIND
Oh, and did I mention that they love Jerry Lewis movies? Sick *******s.
At 09:48 AM 3/24/03 -0700, Keith wrote:
>Well like they say," Going to war without the French is like going hunting
>without your accordian"
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
--
even the safest course is fraught with peril
81259 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Re: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I, too, attended the run to support our troops and would be more than happy
to attend another one. I think it was a positive experience all the way
around.
I'm truly disappointed that many people here are complaining that a run to
show support for our troops is OT and that it shouldn't be posted on the
"trips" page so that we can gather as many people as possible who want to
attend.
Tsk! Tsk!
Jan
At 04:13 PM 3/24/03 +0000, sharxjeep wrote:
> Very well put Bill, it felt good to be doing what we could and Iam
>ready to do it again next weekend...count me in.
>
>Sharky
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill" <bill@j...> wrote:
> > Well this is one of those issues that members seem to be deeply
> > divided on. I guess the only thing we can count on agreeing about
> > unanimously is our love for Jeeps. Although I don't agree with
> > everyone's viewpoint on this subject, I still like everyone I've
>ever
> > met on the group and apart from this subject, I know we almost all
> > get along just fine. PLEASE DON'T QUIT THE GROUP BECAUSE YOU DON'T
> > AGREE WITH SOMEONE! Ride it out and delete these posts if you don't
> > want to read them.
> >
> > Regarding this issue, I'm moved by this note from Bonnie and it
>does
> > appear as though news about even small acts of support somehow make
> > it to the troops and have a positive impact. I wonder how many
>fellow
> > soldiers Bonnie's brother told. If one soldier appreciated it then
>it
> > was worth it, in my opinion.
> >
> > The support "run" on Saturday got a HIGH response from people in
>other
> > vehicles and pedestrians and 98% of the responses I saw were
>positive
> > (we encountered only a few protesters) . Some people pulled up next
> > to us, rolled down their car windows and yelled "God bless our
> > troops!" or "USA, USA, USA" or "Support Our Troops!". Some asked
> > where the protesters were so they could go down and offer an
>opposing
> > view. Most simply beeped and gave us a thumbs up in agreement. I
> > wonder how many of those people sent a note about the encounter to
>a
> > family member or friend who is serving in our military. I was
>proud
> > to be an American and proud to hang out with our small group of
> > Jeepers supporting the troops and would do it again in a heartbeat.
> >
> > I'd like to suggest we do this run again next week, perhaps on
> > Saturday. The way things are going with the war, it looks like
>there
> > will still be fighting for some time to come (unfortunately). It
> > would be great if we could get even more from the group involved
>and
> > I'm hoping since we have almost a week to organize it that we'll
>get
> > more involvement. Just like land use meetings (although the support
> > run is not an official club function), if you can make it, great
>and
> > if not, fine. REMEMBER: THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY PRO-WAR, RATHER PRO-
> > TROOPS.
> >
> > BTW, I also go to land use meetings and not just ones that are
> > convenient to me. I think both issues need support.
> >
> > Lastly, there is one more thing I think we all agree on and that is
>a
> > wish for a quick end to the conflict and the safe return of our
> > military men and women. To all who serve or have served, thank you.
> > To all who have family or know someone in this war, my thoughts and
> > prayers are with them and you.
> >
> > Bill Hooven
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> > > Stu, You maybe right about me not really knowing you all.
>Saturday
> > was my
> > > first run with the Club. I spoke to one of my brothers Friday
> > before the
> > > run on Saturday and he almost cried. One the fact that his
>little
> > sister
> > > was going on a jeep run and two the fact that a jeep club was
> > supporting
> > > their troops. My brothers are the biggest jeep buffs I have ever
> > known.
> > > They are the reason that I bought a jeep. My brothers say that
>it
> > sucks to
> > > see the protests over here that are against them. They never see
> > the
> > > protesters that are for them. They said if they wanted to stay
> > home and
> > > knit they would have never joined the military. I lost a brother
> > in 91 and
> > > to this day I am so proud of him for giving his life for what HE
> > believed
> > > in.
> > >
> > > Just to let you know, I would go to the land use meeting or
> > whatever it
> > > takes to help out but it isn't that easy I work plus I have two
> > kids. But I
> > > still try to do my part I have sent letters that ya'll have
>asked.
> > I even
> > > had neighbors do it also (not that they care).
> > >
> > > I joined this club because my brothers said if I am gonna own a
> > jeep I need
> > > to know how to drive it. What better way to do this than join a
> > club with
> > > guys who know what they are doing. I think the run to support
>our
> > troops
> > > regardless of our beliefs on the war were right on. So some of
>you
> > may
> > > think this is off the topic but for a girl growing up with
>military
> > brothers
> > > I can't think of anything not being related to supporting our
> > troops.
> > >
> > > I won' quit the group because there are too many of you who
>emailed
> > me off
> > > the group email to tell me that I should "stick around".
> > > I am off my soap box.
> > >
> > > Bonnie
> > > "Hail to the Redskins"
> > >
>
>
>
>
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81260 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 9:04am
Subject: RE: [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
Mike,
Armchair quarterbacks means most american people. It was not directly people at you or any other member.
Calm down. We probably agree more on this stuff than you realize.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: MSA12171@aol.com [mailto:MSA12171@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:58 AM
To: skruize@cox.net; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT]Re: Support Our Troops
I agree that everyone has the right to their own opinion. I said that in my message. When you call people that are actually DOING SOMETHING, "armchair quarterbacks", that is ridiculous. What are you doing? Sitting at your comp. callingnames of poking fun ("warm and fuzzy inside" comes to mind). If you have another opiniono of why we shouldn't be there, please, explain yourself. I have my views but am open to hear other thoughts and ideas. I, as much as most anyone, don't like war. But, at this time, I think that it's the only option we have left. What do you think Scott? Instead of trying to shade your views and avoid giving your opinion, share with everyone why you believe the way you do. Use that right that our troops are defending instead of hiding behind it.
Mike Anderson
81261 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 24, 2003 8:59am
Subject: Re: AZ OHV Misses the Boat Important!!!
I believe if (when?) these funds go away, so does Tammy Pike's
position within the State Land Department. Tammy is an OHV advocate
and is one of our best supporters among the agency folks. We do not
want to lose her voice.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> About 3 weeks ago the State Legislators raided the OHV fund.
I was as
> guilty as everyone else for not understanding how much we had to
lose due to
> this. In this e-mail I will try to give you all the info I can and
two
> sample letters that we can use together to send and e-mail and
letter to
> everyone's State Senators and Representatives. I would suggest that
we also
> send them to the State Land Director and the Governor I will supply
those
> addresses also. This is a large blow to us and if not addressed
could get
> even worse. We need Thousands of letters not just the usual group
that
> always gets involved. I would suggest you get any friends and
family to do
> this also. I will try and make it as easy as I can. Do not just
send a copy
> of either of the sample letters combine them or add a couple lines
of your
> own. This is a small price to pay to keep our form of recreation.
Many
> thanks to Stu Olson for his help. Jim F.