2 tires... choice...

[Henthorn]

Ok now that I have my Cragar Soft 8's on the way...


Nitto Mud Grapplers.... or BFG KM's......

Grapplers: 235 each.

KM's : 185...

????

[AZXJ]

KM's Grapplers wear super fast and will drive you nuts.. What Size you gonna run ??


Dave

[Henthorn]

33x12.5r16

[Henthorn]

or 285/75r16

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

We have done a few Nitto mud grapplers and they are not DD friendly. I fully expect to get at least 40K out of my KM2's (rotate bal every 3k)

Jason

[Henthorn]

Not going to wait till sept for them to release the KM2's for my size... I would be just going with regular KM's

[terron gregg]

i think my second favorite tire is the original kms i had pretty decent luck with them

[Symon623]

33x12.5r16

or 285/75r16

A 285/75r16 is more like a 33 x 10.50, the 305/75r16 is more like a 33 x 12.50.

I'd look into the Cooper STT myself. heard alot of good things, available and "American Made" Of your choices, KM's but you can't wait 2 months for teh KM2's?

[AZXJ]

Coopers are Great!! we can help you with the Coopers, or the BFG's if you'd like..


Dave
480-288-4213

[Henthorn]

A 285/75r16 is more like a 33 x 10.50, the 305/75r16 is more like a 33 x 12.50.

I'd look into the Cooper STT myself. heard alot of good things, available and "American Made" Of your choices, KM's but you can't wait 2 months for teh KM2's?

Im rolling on mini-van tires with zero offroad potential right now... p225/75r16's...

I bought my jeep to use it and im tire of not being able to go on runs due simply to tire issues.

Plus... going to Sedona next month (dad's coming down from utah, and its the first ive seen him since I got back from my deployment.)

the Sept date on the KM2's is speculative at best...Havent heard anything official from BFG concerning a drop dead release dad/not to mention people have wanted the 285 size for quite some time now--almost guarenteed backorder issues as soon as they hit.

[Henthorn]

Coopers are Great!! we can help you with the Coopers, or the BFG's if you'd like..


Dave
480-288-4213

Appreciate the help... a little far away from Peoria though....

[AZXJ]

UPS will swing by the house :D

[slvrjp00]

i run the coopers here on the east coast and swear by them there great!

[lancetkenyon]

For a DD, I think the BFG MT KM2s are the best out there right now.

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

I think if you can pick up rubicon take offs for far less than even new KM's. I had Km's for 46K and they were done around 40K and I had pretty good luck with them.

Jason

[ArizonaXJ]

Mickey Thompsn MTZs.......nothing better in my opinion.

[jay simmons]

for what i have seen with the nitto's they wear realy fast not worth the money.. i would go with either the bfg's or the goodyears

[tywilson88]

Ok now that I have my Cragar Soft 8's on the way...


Nitto Mud Grapplers.... or BFG KM's......

Grapplers: 235 each.

KM's : 185...

????

the grappler will wear faster than the bfg FOR SURE. on a 33 you should get about 30k out of the tread on a bfg. i just do not like bfgs. i have had many troubles with them. i would definately reccommend something else other than these two choices. i have had the xtreme m/t on my personal vehicle, and i love them. ORi can get you any tire you need, and we have VERY competetive pricing.

[jay simmons]

i just got word today the 285/75/16 km2's are available

[Henthorn]

i just got word today the 285/75/16 km2's are available

Who did you call??????

[jay simmons]

the manufacture.. If you guys need tires pm me

[Henthorn]

ok... I think I'll have to call your bluff on this one Jay...

http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs/mud-terrain-t-a-km2/3930.html

Has absolutley zero mention of the 285 size for km2's

[tywilson88]

i just talked to the manufacturer, and they assured me that the KM2 will not be available, in that size, until the beginning of september.

[Henthorn]

Thats what I thought! Thanks!!

[jay simmons]

we call ed them to days ago and they sent us 5 of them

[Henthorn]

285-75r16....

They dont even list that size on their website, and I have it confirmed by at least 3 other sources that they are not out till sept.

Off the topic of the ghost KM2's.... I think im going to either go with Baja Claws or Mickey Thompson MTZ's... Leanin towards the MTZ's as they apparently dont need to be rotated as often. and I can get a killer deal on em.

[probable cause]

285-75r16....

They dont even list that size on their website, and I have it confirmed by at least 3 other sources that they are not out till sept.

Off the topic of the ghost KM2's.... I think im going to either go with Baja Claws or Mickey Thompson MTZ's... Leanin towards the MTZ's as they apparently dont need to be rotated as often. and I can get a killer deal on em.

either one you go with get the 13.50 inch wide tire their 12.50 are only 2 ply sidewalls i made the mistake of getting the 12.50's:( my next set will be 37x13.50s

[joedokes28]

I'd keep browsing the for sale ads here for the cheap stuff.

[jay simmons]

so you guys don't think I am feeding a bunch of bull:001_9898: I called the manufacture after I recieved the five tires I ordered last week, and they did release some. For what there saying is the next bacth won't be out until sept. but also could be sooner. Not trying to beat a dead horse I just wanted to clarify with you guys.

[lancetkenyon]

so you guys don't think I am feeding a bunch of bull:001_9898: I called the manufacture after I recieved the five tires I ordered last week, and they did release some. For what there saying is the next bacth won't be out until sept. but also could be sooner. Not trying to beat a dead horse I just wanted to clarify with you guys.

Who cares? They are BFG MT KM2s, not Red Dot Krawlers.:angel:

[gredden]

Does anyone know whether the MK2s or Cooper STT performs better in snow and rain?
I'm going to get 1 of these tires and cannot decided.

[lancetkenyon]

Does anyone know whether the MK2s or Cooper STT performs better in snow and rain?
I'm going to get 1 of these tires and cannot decided.

The SSTs might have and advantage in the snow and rain, as they are factory siped, and the KM2s are not. But the KM2s are going to last a lot longer in the rocks and dirt. There are problems with the SSTs chunking VERY badly when spun on the harder surfaces.

[gredden]

The SSTs might have and advantage in the snow and rain, as they are factory siped, and the KM2s are not. But the KM2s are going to last a lot longer in the rocks and dirt. There are problems with the SSTs chunking VERY badly when spun on the harder surfaces.

I have heard that the MK2s have siping on the inner lug. If I knew that the KM2s would perform well in snow and rain I would order them today. I need to know that I won't be sliding all over the place.

[lancetkenyon]

Look into the Micky Thompson MTZs over the Cooper SSTs if you want aggressive and highly siped tires.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hummerproducts.com/MTZ-Web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hummerproducts.com/H3%2520Tires%2520for%252017%2520GT%2520Wheels.htm&h=506&w=338&sz=33&hl=en&start=6&um=1&usg=__D1PRoWTYaO9264Dqv3sNh27Kctw=&tbnid=56y0ie4kh6Y7pM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmickey%2Bthompson%2Bmtz%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS268US268%26sa%3DN

[lancetkenyon]

The BFG KM2s are pretty siped though. These are what I would run on a DD.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/images/bfg-mud-terrain-ta-km2-sec.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Tires/BFG-Mud-Terrain-TA-KM2.htm&h=390&w=390&sz=18&hl=en&start=9&um=1&usg=__LGpcmNie8KO0eJNtH3lvzIQQggM=&tbnid=zVNcOBMpiwEIQM:&tbnh=123&tbnw=123&prev=/images%3Fq%3DBFG%2BMT%2BKM2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26r lz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS268US268%26sa%3DN

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://coopertire.com/us/en/images/tires/large/discovererSTT2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php%3Fp%3D1227570&h=490&w=360&sz=34&hl=en&start=1&um=1&usg=__C9GQlyDDei83ejxpZWclowYvQoI=&tbnid=gZ2SW7-cUJv9wM:&tbnh=130&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3DCooper%2BSSt%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rlz %3D1T4ADBF_enUS268US268%26sa%3DN

[gredden]

Look into the Micky Thompson MTZs over the Cooper SSTs if you want aggressive and highly siped tires.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hummerproducts.com/MTZ-Web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hummerproducts.com/H3%2520Tires%2520for%252017%2520GT%2520Wheels.htm&h=506&w=338&sz=33&hl=en&start=6&um=1&usg=__D1PRoWTYaO9264Dqv3sNh27Kctw=&tbnid=56y0ie4kh6Y7pM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=88&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmickey%2Bthompson%2Bmtz%26um%3D1%26hl %3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBF_enUS268US268%26sa%3DN

I was looking at the MTZs too. They are a little more than the STT and I heard that they don't wear very well. Is there any truth to this?

[lancetkenyon]

I was looking at the MTZs too. They are a little more than the STT and I heard that they don't wear very well. Is there any truth to this?

A few guys here have them, and I have no real world experience with them, so I could not tell you. Get the BFG MT KM2s and do not look back.

[gredden]

A few guys here have them, and I have no real world experience with them, so I could not tell you. Get the BFG MT KM2s and do not look back.

That's kind of what I'm thinking. I can get 4 at Sam's Club for $704 +tax.

[lancetkenyon]

That's kind of what I'm thinking. I can get 4 at Sam's Club for $704 +tax.

Close the thread and get to Sam's Club! Good price, but check at Discount, and I would suggest RH certs. I just noticed you are in IN, you are far from home here......

[musicbis]

Not to add to any confusion but you should look into the Hankook Dynapro MT model RT03. They are less expensive than BFGs and so far I have heard good things about these from several people who wheel with them hear in the valley on their DD. Low road noise, good road manners wet and dry, they wear well, they are reported to stick on rocks as well, if not a little better than MTRs. You can get them through Discount.

I run 16s as well and you will need a 305/70R-16 to have a 33-12.5-16 equivalent and 315/75R-16 is the 35-12.5-16 equivalent.

[Fire Ball]

I'm absolutely loving my MAxxis Bighorns. Not too loud, balanced fine, soft enough to grab like crazy but seem to wear good. I paid about the same you are looking to spend for 35 x 12.5 on 15's. My buddy Dane can hook you up.

[Henthorn]

BTW.. Im using MTZ's now. I love them and they are wearing very nicely.