Well it's official, I'm gonna need a new job :(

[Fire Ball]

Well I got the word today that we are laying off pilots and I'm one of them. Looks like no wheeling for me for a while.

I'm gonna be looking for a new job in about 2 months if anyone needs someone. I owned and operated a window cleaning business for 7 years. I have a degree in Energy Processing and Plant Technology. I also have a degree in Aviation Management.

Gonna be a long summer :(

[Digger]

Bummer,
hey, maybe it's time to open my doggie business, I'm trying for a Grant,

[DrewDog]

Hope you find something soon!......Drew

[Wind_Danzer]

Crap... just sent you a PM on this before seeing this here.

I guess you are one of the 300 systemwide then. :(

This sucks Bill, I'm so sorry.

[Number 7]

Sorry to hear that Bill. Hope you guys are going to be okay.

You're more than welcome to come to my house and brush up on your window washing skills, and I won't even charge you anything for the practice!

But seriously, I'm sorry you got the boot, dude!

d

[howhypno]

Bill, who did you work for? I fly for a living too, but luckily I'm corporate with a company that is still doing okay with this (recession) economy we are having.

[TRLR8TDTJ]

Sorry to hear you lost your job. I saw that on the news and was wondering if it would affect you.

Kyle

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Sorry to hear this Bill,i hope everything works out

Jason

[Fire Ball]

Thanks for all the kind words. 7 I'm thinking about opening up the window business again soo.... :D

We are letting like 300 go for now and I hear United is letting 1000 go. I'm at USAirway (old America West)

[My Green Jeep]

I am very sorry to hear about you loosing your job..

I hope everything works out for you...

[ademster]

sucks Bill..

should come by tomorrow I have a cold beer waiting for you!

[TRLR8TDTJ]

Thanks for all the kind words. 7 I'm thinking about opening up the window business again soo.... :D

We are letting like 300 go for now and I hear United is letting 1000 go. I'm at USAirway (old America West)

I also heard Continental is letting 3000 go as well. Very scary industry right now.

Kyle

[grateful]

I'm really sorry to hear this....I hope only the best for you, and soon.

[TRLR8TDTJ]

Thanks for all the kind words. 7 I'm thinking about opening up the window business again soo.... :D

We are letting like 300 go for now and I hear United is letting 1000 go. I'm at USAirway (old America West)

double post

[Stickbuddy]

That is tough, hope everything works out; and SOON!

[Cave Gimp]

Sorry to hear this, hope everything works out.

[ROKCRLR]

I'm sorry to hear that Bill! When I first read the article about that I was hoping it wouldn't happen to anyone on here.

[jeepdude775]

Hey Bill hopefully it won't happen for a while. There are alot of factors in play as you are aware of ie east vs. west so you never know and won't be till 3rd quarter i'm guessing.

[SHNIPE]

Ive got 5 people in our family that work for Us Of the Airways. Some at the top and some at the bottom. Sucks. Good luck Bill... We're all gonna need a bit of it.

[amber.hodge]

Bill,
Us Airways is losing a really great employee in laying you off. That is rediculous. Have you looked into alegiat and jet blue out of williams gateway airport? Those littler airlines seem to be doing well - they sure do charge a lot less (but less flights to less places)...I know they fly to Washington DC from here a lot. Maybe you could pilot a cessna for rich people??? Any drug lords in need of a pilot with a great sense of humor??? :) this way you could travel to beautiful columbia and costa rica, but possibly be shot at.

And as always, the Army National Guard is always looking for pilots for the Apache's and Blackhawks, as well as commissioned officers. We are taking up to 40 year olds now and officers make a lot of money...even flight chiefs...You're under 40...and the military never does lay offs...(Cary probably wouldn't like me mentioning that idea though :o)
This way you could travel to beautiful Iraq and Afghanistan, but possibly be shot at --- which you could reciprocate with rockets and a hail of gunfire.

If there is anything we can do, let us know. You guys need to come by for dinner soon.

[Brian]

Bill that stinks. I am just hoping that I can get home from Boston thursday (US Air)
x2 on the Gateway thing. I live across the street and know it is growing fast.

[jperez]

sorry to hear about your job.... i can understand what you are feeling and what you will be going through. just remember to keep your head up and dont let it get between your family. that can really hurt.
on another note, im not sure what aviation job you are looking for. but Skydive Arizona could probably use a pilot about this time of year!
good luck with you job search.

Blue Skies are ahead

[Fire Ball]

If I thought it was going to be a short furlough I would jump on that or any other flying job just to stay current but I think this is gonna be a long painful road for the airlines and I might be out for 10 years or so. With that in mind, I have to get serious and find a new career that can pay the bills and allow me to save for the future.

From what I was told there will be 10 in Sept, 30 in Oct, 0 in Nov, 50 in Dec, (Merry Xmas) and the rest through March. That means I'll probably be working through Feb or March so I'll have some time to get some things in order.

This is one of the few careers where this is a normal thing every 5 or so years but this one is really bad :(

[jeepdude775]

Hey Bill hopefully it won't happen for a while. There are alot of factors in play as you are aware of ie east vs. west so you never know and won't be till 3rd quarter i'm guessing.

I meant 4th quarter....who the hell knows!!

[jeepdude775]

OK you know more than me as usual! Where did you get the timeline? I guess I better keep renewing my CFI!

[sms1688]

Hey Bill damn all of that stuff. Hey I might need a job to let me know if you start that window cleaning business up again. I need to get out of aviation. I should go back to stripping again. Hell pays better and you know when your getting Phucked

[ademster]

Hey Bill damn all of that stuff. Hey I might need a job to let me know if you start that window cleaning business up again. I need to get out of aviation. I should go back to stripping again. Hell pays better and you know when your getting Phucked


I thought you were a plumber?

you kept talking about laying pipe?

[sms1688]

I thought you were a plumber?

you kept talking about laying pipe?


TOTALLY a different subject. I lay "pipe" on my free time.



Avionics Tech.

[ademster]

TOTALLY a different subject. I lay "pipe" on my free time.



Avionics Tech.



Hahaha I lay pipe too and have proof, well for at least twice in my life!


which company?

[sms1688]

Hahaha I lay pipe too and have proof, well for at least twice in my life!


which company?

I actually work on Sims now. CAE but my main customer is Mesa/Freedom airlines and they are in some kind of lawsuit with DELTA. Stupid airplanes so I am welling to do anywork as long as it pays my bills

[TRLR8TDTJ]

I actually work on Sims now. CAE but my main customer is Mesa/Freedom airlines and they are in some kind of lawsuit with DELTA. Stupid airplanes so I am welling to do anywork as long as it pays my bills


You should consider working on real planes.:punk: Its not all that bad. Pretty scary industry right now though. I dont know if I would stay in avaition either though if I was laid off. The omly problem is it is about all I have done for the past 12 years. Airframe/powerplant/fcc license dont qualify me for much outside aviation. Good luck Bill you will find another good job.

Kyle

[sms1688]

You should consider working on real planes.:punk: Its not all that bad. Pretty scary industry right now though. I dont know if I would stay in avaition either though if I was laid off. The omly problem is it is about all I have done for the past 12 years. Airframe/powerplant/fcc license dont qualify me for much outside aviation. Good luck Bill you will find another good job.

Kyle

I worked on real planes md80 all the way up to 747's until the company went under thats why I work on sims now. Damn aviation. I need a job that I dont have to get a new one every couple years

[BW-CJ7]

Sorry to hear Bill, I have my private and a degree in Aero Management and even better work at US Airways in Safety. Its gonna be a long painful ride... I was trying to think why I got into this career and figured that Airplanes are just way too damn cool....

Darnit this post is old....

[Randyd]

A couple friends of mine got jobs instructing at Pan Am at Deer Valley airport. As CFI's but it pays the bills. There is also a nice place in Nogales that trains students from India. Cheep housing shared with other instructors. Then you can wheel with me on the weekends......

[Fire Ball]

Unfortunately I let my CFI ticket laps about 12 years ago :(

I got my date from the CP's office, looks like Dec 31 will be my last day. I'm looking at going back into process plant work or even changing careers all together. I've had enough of this roller coaster life style.

If anyone has any inside info on a job I'm interested. Not really looking for something to pay the bills, I'm looking for a new career.

[The Ben]

Hey Bill what can I get for $5.00?:serenade::pimp:

[Fire Ball]

Well I'm already bent over and lubed up by the company so you might as well slip me a little too :D

[rsliman]

That sucks. Best of luck! I know that if skywest were to furlough me, I would'nt go anywhere else. I think I'd go work at home depot and wait for the callback. I dont have a degree, so I really dont have a fallback plan. Flying airplanes is all I know.

I was in the jumpseat on southwest with an america west guy about 2 months ago, he got the big f also. He said that while airways was f'ing west guys, they were hiring new east guys. any truth to that?

[Fire Ball]

I heard there are 5 guys in class on the eastcoast for the 1990.

Problem is that if I DO ever get called back my seniority would put me in the E190 in PHL for 1/2 what I make now. No thanks. I'm done with aviation. Need a new career.

[kend]

Bill,

I just noticed this thread - guess I don't read too thoroughly.

Really tough news! I'm sure you'll find a new opportunity that will make you happier, but the meantime stinks. Sorry!

[wikked08jk]

Information Technology.
We aren't going anywhere.

[djui5]

Did you ever find a new career?

[Fire Ball]

Thanks Ken, it isgonna be rough going for this industry for a while

Randy:No, still looking. I'm thinking about going back to school. Some of the jobs I used to do now require a degree in engineering. Oh well, times change I guess.