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76502 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:06am
Subject: Re: [OT] The Lonely Four-Wheelers Prayer
Scott,
Good question.
I have a 9000 lbs winch, a pair of snatch blocks, and four D-rings. A
Pull-Pal, a 30 foot by 3 inch strap with sewn-loop ends. Also a full-size
spade, a full-size cross-cut saw, and an axe/sledge combo. And a HiLift
jack. I also have 150' of 3/8" static-line. While not carried for vehicle
recovery, I'd use it if I had to and then retire it.
Soon to be added is a pair of bridging ladders
http://www.britishpacific.com/offroad/bridging_ladder.htm and a Tirfor
Machine
http://www.tractel.com/Products/Lift&MaterialsHandling/Hoists/Tirfor/tirfor_
more.htm
And I have a vehicle mounted SATCOM.
While the above may seem like overkill, I regularly travel
(non-recreationally) to the boonies as a single vehicle.
Gunslinger
Gunslinger's Law on Training:
"Inadequate training is like playing Russian roulette in a back
room in Bangkok. Some days you win and other days we get new players."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sawyer" <ssawyer@s...>
To: "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Cc: "Daver" <daver@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 24 January, 2003 10:15
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [OT] The Lonely Four-Wheelers Prayer
> For just that reason I carry three tow ropes / cables, at least one come
> a long and if I'm really going deep into it, a few stakes to make anchor
> points etc. I also carry a satellite phone with me so I can get help.
> In Jeep accident I was in where the Jeep was no longer in a happy mode,
> I had to use the satellite phone to call for help.
>
> It was disconcerting though to have the person ask me if I was in the
> Caribbean while I'm in a light snow storm, standing on ice.
>
> I'm curious what other people carry with them to get unstuck.
>
> -Scott
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76503 From: gcdclark <gcdclark@y...> <gcdclark@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:09pm
Subject: WANTED - TJ Fender
Looking for a right front fender and fender flair for a 2001 yellow tj
if anyone has a spare laying around or knows the where abouts of one
please shoot me an email
THXS
Greg
76504 From: Frank Minice <BadAZXJ@m...> <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:12pm
Subject: Big Time Virus hitting network servers was...site down?
my msn email has been down for most of the day and several web sites
I visit (including the AzVJC) have been up and down since last night.
I had some frame relay outage at work and our ticket with AT&T blames
a nationwide virus effecting servers...
Most likely the culprit for your problems getting on last night.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
76505 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:25pm
Subject: RE: Re: Rubicon VS H2
Hi Brad,
There is absolutely no doubt that the Rubicon Edition is the right way to go
if you have the cash... building a sport with the exact same setup that the
Rubicon comes with WILL cost you more money (if you don't do the work
yourself) and MAY cost you more money (even if you do).
If the Rubicon Edition was out in 1998, I would have purchased one and then
started building up from there. As nice as the Rubicon Edition is; it
suffers greatly from a lack of clearance that begs for a lift kit. Throw a
lift and some bigger tires on the Rubicon and straight off the showroom
floor you have an absolutely incredible offroad machine.
You did the right thing in purchasing the Rubicon...
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Weikert [mailto:a292@a...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rubicon VS H2
Hello;
With all the comments about the Rubicon being very unimpressive for the
price, you guys have got me wondering if I'm missing something. I bought a
Rubicon based on the fact that it would have cost me more to buy a Sport or
Sahara and then add the parts I wanted that the Rubicon already had.
These would be:
Dana 44 front (and rear) differential
4.11 gears
Front and rear lockers
4:1 transfer case (67:1 crawl ratio)
No slip yokes in transfer case
Rear disc brakes
Sill protectors (contrary to what one person said they are steel, not
aluminum, but a bit thin. Time will tell if they are up to the job).
And a couple of other things that I can't think of right now...
If I did my research and math correctly it would have cost around $10,000
to add these items to a Sport or Sahara, making them more expensive than
the Rubicon. The Rubicon seemed to me like a good starting point to build
a capable rig. With the Rubicon all I have to do is raise the transfer
case for a flat skid plate, add suspension lift, and larger tires to make
it fairly trail ready. Is this correct?
As an added bonus the rear differential is limited slip when not locked.
The lockers work on only 5PSI of air pressure which should make a trail
repair of a blown air line pretty easy. Heck, even duct tape should work
for a temporary repair. Their are two small air pumps mounted on the skid
plate just behind the transfer case. If the one for the rear gives up I
could plug that air line into the pump for the front giving me rear lock,
open front. Or I could use a tee fitting to lock both ends with one pump.
Well, it's too late to change my mind now but I'm still curious...
Have a good day
Brad
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76506 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 3:50pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Chris Benner is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, January 26, 2003.
When: 10am
Where: meet at carefree highway &; I-17 at 10am.
Rating: None
Length: all day
CB Channel: 4
The description in the charles wells book sounds like fun. Figured we'd take I-17 to the Bumblebee exit, drive into cleator and follow the trail towards senator highway. Then return via Crown King. Pack a lunch.
Trail Desc: Charles Wells book Page 140.
A wild roller coaster ride accrossed some of Arizona most remote backcountry. Narrow creek beds with ever changing boulder fields. Cross a series of narrow ridges. winding trail. Hold your breath tippy situations, espically for high centered vehicles. Descents and climbs are very steep. Gaurenteed to get AZ pinstripping.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
76507 From: chris benner <jeeperinaz@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
I forgot to LABEL the trail..
Its Desoto Mine up by Crown King.
I submitted the trail to be added week ago.. still not added
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Chris Benner is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, January 26, 2003.
When: 10am
Where: meet at carefree highway & I-17 at 10am.
Rating: None
Length: all day
CB Channel: 4
The description in the charles wells book sounds like fun. Figured we'd take I-17 to the Bumblebee exit, drive into cleator and follow the trail towards senator highway. Then return via Crown King. Pack a lunch.
Trail Desc: Charles Wells book Page 140.
A wild roller coaster ride accrossed some of Arizona most remote backcountry. Narrow creek beds with ever changing boulder fields. Cross a series of narrow ridges. winding trail. Hold your breath tippy situations, espically for high centered vehicles. Descents and climbs are very steep. Gaurenteed to get AZ pinstripping.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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76508 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:04pm
Subject: TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
76509 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...> <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Re: TM clean-up
(quote from Russ)
> "Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
> Would the BLM sanction such a thing?"
(quote from Young Guns)
"Regulators, let's ride!"
Lachlan
76510 From: Rollie kent <jeeprkl@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: Grand Tetons
Anyone found a jeep trail to the top of the Tetons?
Where can I get a map?
How would I get in touch with a local jeep club?
THANKS
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76511 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:36pm
Subject: was Clean-up, now Posse?
You are saying that you think it would be effectve, yes?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>"
<jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> (quote from Russ)
> > "Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
> > Would the BLM sanction such a thing?"
>
> (quote from Young Guns)
>
> "Regulators, let's ride!"
>
> Lachlan
76512 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: RE: TM clean-up
I spoke with Tammy Pike from the Sate Land Dept. She said we had around 350
people show up to the clean up. She thank everyone for all the work and said
that they are planning to set up a work group to address the shooter trash
issue. (I am not sure which that term fits better the shooters or the
target) They have no idea at this time how to solve the problem but they
will be working on it in the near future.
Thanks to everyone that helped out we filled 3 40 yard dumpsters today that
is something to be proud of. I had a good time on the run after wards also
for everyone that ran Upper Terminator I will have pics up very soon and
post the link. Jim F.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
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76513 From: Greg <gcdclark@y...> <gcdclark@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: FS - 4L Throttle Body
have an extra 4.0L throttle body laying around, from a 95yj, so all u
guys that have a 2.5l and want a few more ponnies this will be a
great add on, it should be a direct bolt on for any 92 and up yj with
a 2.5l. It wilol make the seat of ur pants happy :-)
Make offer
Greg
76514 From: BradP Kilgore <brad.kilgore@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:02pm
Subject: RE: Re: TM clean-up
For anyone interested, there were approximately 290 or so names that signed up at the Cleanup table. I don't know how may of these were from the AZVJC, but maybe we will get a number later on. I think we made a good showing though, and there were approximately 3 large dumpsters filled at the end of the day, as well as a pile of larger items waiting for pickup.
Going forward, one of the biggest problems is that many of the offending people are not very friendly, are often hostile, are often drinking and are are usually packing guns. Not a very good person or group to confront alone or in a posse. <grin>
Law enforcement, would love to cite someone for littering, but they simply do not have the man power to police the situation effectively. If they do catch someone dumping or littering, they will cite the individual(s). This is difficult at best.
We made an impression today on all, the community, the shooters, BLM and Law Enforcement. Shortly before leaving the area this afternoon, we talked to a DPS Officer who came into the area. He had great praise for the effort.
I think everybody envolved deserves a pat on the back.
My two cents.
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [jeepindog@y...] [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Sat 1/25/2003 5:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TM clean-up
76515 From: BradP Kilgore <brad.kilgore@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:03pm
Subject: RE: TM clean-up
I like Hackle's count better....<grin>
-----Original Message-----
From: Hackle [mailto:hackle@q...]
Sent: Sat 1/25/2003 5:59 PM
To: gev39@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
I spoke with Tammy Pike from the Sate Land Dept. She said we had around 350
people show up to the clean up. She thank everyone for all the work and said
that they are planning to set up a work group to address the shooter trash
issue. (I am not sure which that term fits better the shooters or the
target) They have no idea at this time how to solve the problem but they
will be working on it in the near future.
Thanks to everyone that helped out we filled 3 40 yard dumpsters today that
is something to be proud of. I had a good time on the run after wards also
for everyone that ran Upper Terminator I will have pics up very soon and
post the link. Jim F.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
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76516 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:09pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Tuesday, November 25, 2003
Hello All,
Brad Kilgore is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Tuesday, November 25, 2003.
When: Saturday after the cleanup
Where: Judgement Day, Upper Upper Terminator and Upper Terminator
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 Hours
CB Channel: 8
Several of us ran some trails after the cleanup, had a lot of fun. Great day to play in the sun.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
76517 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:07pm
Subject: [OT] free printer
I got a new printer for Christmas and want to give my old printer away. Does
anyone need one? It is an HP 855c, works great. It works with both Macs &
IBM type computers and takes the large ink cartridges which cost the same
amount as the small ones. They have been selling these on Ebay for about
$50, I am not willing to go through the hassle. Here is a link to HP's specs
on these printers.
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bpd02955
Let me know off line if you need it.
--James
76518 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:15pm
Subject: RE: Re: East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
NE Corner of Queen Creek and Warner. Sorry you didn't find us. There was
quite a few Jeep and lots of cool hot rods. It was way cool. I hope to
go to more of them in the future.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> [mailto:azcj@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:17 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
I tried to go to this last night but couldn't find it. Never saw a
location so I just went by the comment about it being across from
Uncle Bear's. The only UB's I found was at Cooper and Warner. I drove
all around that area last night just before 7pm and didn't see
anything resembling a group of people looking at cars. Ended up just
eating at UB's around 7:30. Didn't see anyone or any Jeeps that I
recognized but at least the food was great. So where was this thing
anyways???
I'm planning to head up to the Scottsdale Pavillions tonight around
5:30 or 6 if anyone's going to be there. Look for a white TJ with a
white soft top and 35s.
-Scott Edwards
'97 TJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Nasser,
>
> I can't commit for sure, but hope to stop by for a while. The Jeep
is kinda sick right now, so I won't be driving it over. Uncle Bear's
is just across the street and would be great for a little food and
beverage after the show.
>
> Tom J.
>
> From: Nasser [mailto:nasser88@c...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:50 PM
> > To: Az_Vjc@Yahoogroups. Com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > This is just a reminder:
> >
> > This coming Friday evening the 24th there is a car show that
we've
> been
> > invited to attend. It is a very casual event. It is a great
> > opportunity to
> > meet other club members and chat. Bring your cameras, as there
are
> > antique
> > autos, classics, some military vehicles, etc.
> >
> > Last year we had a dozen members show up and we had a great
time.
> The
> > event
> > starts at 5:45ish until 8:00 pm or so, and you can come and go as
> you
> > please.
> >
> > Come and check it out,
> >
> > Nasser
> > Ps West Valley members are invited if you don't mind the drive.
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76519 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: RE: Re: Interesting axle width numbers. Your help appreciated
James,
Stu is exactly 1.5" wider up front and its no big deal. Looks fine. Once
I saw that I was convinced that the stronger Dutchman alloy shafts were
a better way to go. Factoring the sale of the 4 8.8 shafts the out of
pocket price is about the same, $135-160.
Most adapter companies won't make adapters to go from 5 lug to 6 lug.
They will only do 5 to 5, etc. There is one company that would but they
are really thick and I did not like them. Here is a pic of this style
but in a different lug pattern.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@asu.edu> [mailto:James.Towle@asu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:53 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Interesting axle width numbers. Your help
appreciated
Scott,
Why not just install adapters on the 8.8? That would bring the 8.8
width out to where the D44 is and make the lug pattern match. If you
were to get some high quality adapters there shouldn't be any problem
with them breaking.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Got the Waggy 44. Here is some interesting numbers I thought I'd
throw
> your way. I'd like to compile a database of these and post them to
the
> website for future reference.
> These numbers are wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface.
>
> 61.50" TJ D30 axle with the Warn small 5 on 4.5" hub kit. 60.00" TJ
> stock axle width front and rear 60.75" Waggy 44 axle width
> 59.25" Ford 8.8
>
> Stu runs the small hub kit. His front is now 1.5" wider than the
rear
> 44. The Waggy 44 will be 1.5" wider than the 8.8 so you can't do
much
> better than that for junkyard swaps :D I've been told that being
> slightly wider up front allows the rear to track better on the
trail and
> street
>
> I'm going to get this thing under there and then the next step will
be
> Warn alloys and CTM's. I am going to go ahead and install Dutchman
> alloys in the matching 6 on 5.5" pattern into the 8.8. Should be a
> pretty stout setup for 37's.
>
> Later,
>
> Scott K
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76520 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:49pm
Subject: Re: FS - 4L Throttle Body
how much?
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: <gcdclark@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] FS - 4L Throttle Body
> have an extra 4.0L throttle body laying around, from a 95yj, so all u
> guys that have a 2.5l and want a few more ponnies this will be a
> great add on, it should be a direct bolt on for any 92 and up yj with
> a 2.5l. It wilol make the seat of ur pants happy :-)
>
> Make offer
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
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>
>
76521 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:58pm
Subject: [FS] wanted paddles and front 3 rib or smoothie rail tires
Price: name your price
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
good set of tires for my rail...and if you got any other rail stuff lying around. thanks.
nick l.
Nick Lara
76522 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:30am
Subject: Better picture
Here's a close up. (Minus the screw driver) :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76523 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:33am
Subject: Another picture
R U tired of them yet? :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76524 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...> <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:05pm
Subject: History Ch - 4WD Then and Now (Rerun?)
4 anyone who has not seen this and may be interested. Watch now.
76525 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:13pm
Subject: RE: Better picture
Well you better put the screw driver back be for it leaks all your fluid out. J Seriously it looks a bit more like something cut that. Maybe the last garage you didnt pay, sabotage, or aliens. Was there an event shortly before you noticed the leak? A belt coming off, a cat in the engine, strange lights in the sky? In any case you found the problem you know the fix it is just a bummer you dont know what caused it. Maybe the fix and putting it together again might lead to a culprit.
Or maybe not.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witt [mailto:k7ant@therim.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:30 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Better picture
Here's a close up. (Minus the screw driver) :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76526 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:27pm
Subject: Re: Another picture
Clean it up and put some JB Weld on it. I know a guy that had a crack
in the block of his diesel and ran with JB Weld on it for over 50,000
miles without problems.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Witt" <k7ant@t...> wrote:
> R U tired of them yet? :)
> Bill W
> K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
> 97 TJ with a few mods.
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
> God and 4 wheelers' country!
76502 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 7:06am
Subject: Re: [OT] The Lonely Four-Wheelers Prayer
Scott,
Good question.
I have a 9000 lbs winch, a pair of snatch blocks, and four D-rings. A
Pull-Pal, a 30 foot by 3 inch strap with sewn-loop ends. Also a full-size
spade, a full-size cross-cut saw, and an axe/sledge combo. And a HiLift
jack. I also have 150' of 3/8" static-line. While not carried for vehicle
recovery, I'd use it if I had to and then retire it.
Soon to be added is a pair of bridging ladders
http://www.britishpacific.com/offroad/bridging_ladder.htm and a Tirfor
Machine
http://www.tractel.com/Products/Lift&MaterialsHandling/Hoists/Tirfor/tirfor_
more.htm
And I have a vehicle mounted SATCOM.
While the above may seem like overkill, I regularly travel
(non-recreationally) to the boonies as a single vehicle.
Gunslinger
Gunslinger's Law on Training:
"Inadequate training is like playing Russian roulette in a back
room in Bangkok. Some days you win and other days we get new players."
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sawyer" <ssawyer@s...>
To: "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Cc: "Daver" <daver@i...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 24 January, 2003 10:15
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [OT] The Lonely Four-Wheelers Prayer
> For just that reason I carry three tow ropes / cables, at least one come
> a long and if I'm really going deep into it, a few stakes to make anchor
> points etc. I also carry a satellite phone with me so I can get help.
> In Jeep accident I was in where the Jeep was no longer in a happy mode,
> I had to use the satellite phone to call for help.
>
> It was disconcerting though to have the person ask me if I was in the
> Caribbean while I'm in a light snow storm, standing on ice.
>
> I'm curious what other people carry with them to get unstuck.
>
> -Scott
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76503 From: gcdclark <gcdclark@y...> <gcdclark@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:09pm
Subject: WANTED - TJ Fender
Looking for a right front fender and fender flair for a 2001 yellow tj
if anyone has a spare laying around or knows the where abouts of one
please shoot me an email
THXS
Greg
76504 From: Frank Minice <BadAZXJ@m...> <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:12pm
Subject: Big Time Virus hitting network servers was...site down?
my msn email has been down for most of the day and several web sites
I visit (including the AzVJC) have been up and down since last night.
I had some frame relay outage at work and our ticket with AT&T blames
a nationwide virus effecting servers...
Most likely the culprit for your problems getting on last night.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
76505 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 2:25pm
Subject: RE: Re: Rubicon VS H2
Hi Brad,
There is absolutely no doubt that the Rubicon Edition is the right way to go
if you have the cash... building a sport with the exact same setup that the
Rubicon comes with WILL cost you more money (if you don't do the work
yourself) and MAY cost you more money (even if you do).
If the Rubicon Edition was out in 1998, I would have purchased one and then
started building up from there. As nice as the Rubicon Edition is; it
suffers greatly from a lack of clearance that begs for a lift kit. Throw a
lift and some bigger tires on the Rubicon and straight off the showroom
floor you have an absolutely incredible offroad machine.
You did the right thing in purchasing the Rubicon...
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Weikert [mailto:a292@a...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rubicon VS H2
Hello;
With all the comments about the Rubicon being very unimpressive for the
price, you guys have got me wondering if I'm missing something. I bought a
Rubicon based on the fact that it would have cost me more to buy a Sport or
Sahara and then add the parts I wanted that the Rubicon already had.
These would be:
Dana 44 front (and rear) differential
4.11 gears
Front and rear lockers
4:1 transfer case (67:1 crawl ratio)
No slip yokes in transfer case
Rear disc brakes
Sill protectors (contrary to what one person said they are steel, not
aluminum, but a bit thin. Time will tell if they are up to the job).
And a couple of other things that I can't think of right now...
If I did my research and math correctly it would have cost around $10,000
to add these items to a Sport or Sahara, making them more expensive than
the Rubicon. The Rubicon seemed to me like a good starting point to build
a capable rig. With the Rubicon all I have to do is raise the transfer
case for a flat skid plate, add suspension lift, and larger tires to make
it fairly trail ready. Is this correct?
As an added bonus the rear differential is limited slip when not locked.
The lockers work on only 5PSI of air pressure which should make a trail
repair of a blown air line pretty easy. Heck, even duct tape should work
for a temporary repair. Their are two small air pumps mounted on the skid
plate just behind the transfer case. If the one for the rear gives up I
could plug that air line into the pump for the front giving me rear lock,
open front. Or I could use a tee fitting to lock both ends with one pump.
Well, it's too late to change my mind now but I'm still curious...
Have a good day
Brad
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76506 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 3:50pm
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Chris Benner is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, January 26, 2003.
When: 10am
Where: meet at carefree highway &; I-17 at 10am.
Rating: None
Length: all day
CB Channel: 4
The description in the charles wells book sounds like fun. Figured we'd take I-17 to the Bumblebee exit, drive into cleator and follow the trail towards senator highway. Then return via Crown King. Pack a lunch.
Trail Desc: Charles Wells book Page 140.
A wild roller coaster ride accrossed some of Arizona most remote backcountry. Narrow creek beds with ever changing boulder fields. Cross a series of narrow ridges. winding trail. Hold your breath tippy situations, espically for high centered vehicles. Descents and climbs are very steep. Gaurenteed to get AZ pinstripping.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
76507 From: chris benner <jeeperinaz@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
I forgot to LABEL the trail..
Its Desoto Mine up by Crown King.
I submitted the trail to be added week ago.. still not added
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 11:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Sunday, January 26, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,
Chris Benner is leading an Unspecified trail run on Sunday, January 26, 2003.
When: 10am
Where: meet at carefree highway & I-17 at 10am.
Rating: None
Length: all day
CB Channel: 4
The description in the charles wells book sounds like fun. Figured we'd take I-17 to the Bumblebee exit, drive into cleator and follow the trail towards senator highway. Then return via Crown King. Pack a lunch.
Trail Desc: Charles Wells book Page 140.
A wild roller coaster ride accrossed some of Arizona most remote backcountry. Narrow creek beds with ever changing boulder fields. Cross a series of narrow ridges. winding trail. Hold your breath tippy situations, espically for high centered vehicles. Descents and climbs are very steep. Gaurenteed to get AZ pinstripping.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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76508 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:04pm
Subject: TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
76509 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...> <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Re: TM clean-up
(quote from Russ)
> "Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
> Would the BLM sanction such a thing?"
(quote from Young Guns)
"Regulators, let's ride!"
Lachlan
76510 From: Rollie kent <jeeprkl@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:25pm
Subject: Grand Tetons
Anyone found a jeep trail to the top of the Tetons?
Where can I get a map?
How would I get in touch with a local jeep club?
THANKS
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76511 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:36pm
Subject: was Clean-up, now Posse?
You are saying that you think it would be effectve, yes?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>"
<jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> (quote from Russ)
> > "Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
> > Would the BLM sanction such a thing?"
>
> (quote from Young Guns)
>
> "Regulators, let's ride!"
>
> Lachlan
76512 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: RE: TM clean-up
I spoke with Tammy Pike from the Sate Land Dept. She said we had around 350
people show up to the clean up. She thank everyone for all the work and said
that they are planning to set up a work group to address the shooter trash
issue. (I am not sure which that term fits better the shooters or the
target) They have no idea at this time how to solve the problem but they
will be working on it in the near future.
Thanks to everyone that helped out we filled 3 40 yard dumpsters today that
is something to be proud of. I had a good time on the run after wards also
for everyone that ran Upper Terminator I will have pics up very soon and
post the link. Jim F.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
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76513 From: Greg <gcdclark@y...> <gcdclark@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: FS - 4L Throttle Body
have an extra 4.0L throttle body laying around, from a 95yj, so all u
guys that have a 2.5l and want a few more ponnies this will be a
great add on, it should be a direct bolt on for any 92 and up yj with
a 2.5l. It wilol make the seat of ur pants happy :-)
Make offer
Greg
76514 From: BradP Kilgore <brad.kilgore@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:02pm
Subject: RE: Re: TM clean-up
For anyone interested, there were approximately 290 or so names that signed up at the Cleanup table. I don't know how may of these were from the AZVJC, but maybe we will get a number later on. I think we made a good showing though, and there were approximately 3 large dumpsters filled at the end of the day, as well as a pile of larger items waiting for pickup.
Going forward, one of the biggest problems is that many of the offending people are not very friendly, are often hostile, are often drinking and are are usually packing guns. Not a very good person or group to confront alone or in a posse. <grin>
Law enforcement, would love to cite someone for littering, but they simply do not have the man power to police the situation effectively. If they do catch someone dumping or littering, they will cite the individual(s). This is difficult at best.
We made an impression today on all, the community, the shooters, BLM and Law Enforcement. Shortly before leaving the area this afternoon, we talked to a DPS Officer who came into the area. He had great praise for the effort.
I think everybody envolved deserves a pat on the back.
My two cents.
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [jeepindog@y...] [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Sat 1/25/2003 5:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TM clean-up
76515 From: BradP Kilgore <brad.kilgore@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:03pm
Subject: RE: TM clean-up
I like Hackle's count better....<grin>
-----Original Message-----
From: Hackle [mailto:hackle@q...]
Sent: Sat 1/25/2003 5:59 PM
To: gev39@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
I spoke with Tammy Pike from the Sate Land Dept. She said we had around 350
people show up to the clean up. She thank everyone for all the work and said
that they are planning to set up a work group to address the shooter trash
issue. (I am not sure which that term fits better the shooters or the
target) They have no idea at this time how to solve the problem but they
will be working on it in the near future.
Thanks to everyone that helped out we filled 3 40 yard dumpsters today that
is something to be proud of. I had a good time on the run after wards also
for everyone that ran Upper Terminator I will have pics up very soon and
post the link. Jim F.
-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> [mailto:gev39@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 5:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TM clean-up
We just got home from the clean up. Nice turn out! All the dumpsters
are full and there lots more stuff that wouldn't even fit. Many of
us worked on the shooting gallery up towards the water tank, on the
left just past the cattle guard.
God that place was an awful mess. It was quite clean when we left,
but I'm sad to say that after running a trail, coming out we saw
shooters in the very spots we had just cleaned. We stopped to ask
them to pick up after themselves, and they got angry and
said "Waaah! we don't have anything to shoot at anymore"
Well, Mary snapped and gave them an earful. I hope the message got
across that they need to clean up their mess.
Does anyone know the laws regarding target shooting and littering?
Can shooters be cited for leaving their crap behind?
Should we take tag numbers and report the f***ers to the
authorities?
Should we create a "4-wheeler posse" or something?
Would the BLM sanction such a thing?
Thanks to all who helped.
Russell and Mary Gevarter
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76516 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:09pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Tuesday, November 25, 2003
Hello All,
Brad Kilgore is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Tuesday, November 25, 2003.
When: Saturday after the cleanup
Where: Judgement Day, Upper Upper Terminator and Upper Terminator
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 Hours
CB Channel: 8
Several of us ran some trails after the cleanup, had a lot of fun. Great day to play in the sun.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
76517 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:07pm
Subject: [OT] free printer
I got a new printer for Christmas and want to give my old printer away. Does
anyone need one? It is an HP 855c, works great. It works with both Macs &
IBM type computers and takes the large ink cartridges which cost the same
amount as the small ones. They have been selling these on Ebay for about
$50, I am not willing to go through the hassle. Here is a link to HP's specs
on these printers.
http://h20015.www2.hp.com/en/document.jhtml?lc=en&docName=bpd02955
Let me know off line if you need it.
--James
76518 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:15pm
Subject: RE: Re: East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
NE Corner of Queen Creek and Warner. Sorry you didn't find us. There was
quite a few Jeep and lots of cool hot rods. It was way cool. I hope to
go to more of them in the future.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> [mailto:azcj@y...]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 8:17 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
I tried to go to this last night but couldn't find it. Never saw a
location so I just went by the comment about it being across from
Uncle Bear's. The only UB's I found was at Cooper and Warner. I drove
all around that area last night just before 7pm and didn't see
anything resembling a group of people looking at cars. Ended up just
eating at UB's around 7:30. Didn't see anyone or any Jeeps that I
recognized but at least the food was great. So where was this thing
anyways???
I'm planning to head up to the Scottsdale Pavillions tonight around
5:30 or 6 if anyone's going to be there. Look for a white TJ with a
white soft top and 35s.
-Scott Edwards
'97 TJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Nasser,
>
> I can't commit for sure, but hope to stop by for a while. The Jeep
is kinda sick right now, so I won't be driving it over. Uncle Bear's
is just across the street and would be great for a little food and
beverage after the show.
>
> Tom J.
>
> From: Nasser [mailto:nasser88@c...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 4:50 PM
> > To: Az_Vjc@Yahoogroups. Com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] East Valley Jeep Show/Get-together
> >
> > Folks,
> >
> > This is just a reminder:
> >
> > This coming Friday evening the 24th there is a car show that
we've
> been
> > invited to attend. It is a very casual event. It is a great
> > opportunity to
> > meet other club members and chat. Bring your cameras, as there
are
> > antique
> > autos, classics, some military vehicles, etc.
> >
> > Last year we had a dozen members show up and we had a great
time.
> The
> > event
> > starts at 5:45ish until 8:00 pm or so, and you can come and go as
> you
> > please.
> >
> > Come and check it out,
> >
> > Nasser
> > Ps West Valley members are invited if you don't mind the drive.
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76519 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: RE: Re: Interesting axle width numbers. Your help appreciated
James,
Stu is exactly 1.5" wider up front and its no big deal. Looks fine. Once
I saw that I was convinced that the stronger Dutchman alloy shafts were
a better way to go. Factoring the sale of the 4 8.8 shafts the out of
pocket price is about the same, $135-160.
Most adapter companies won't make adapters to go from 5 lug to 6 lug.
They will only do 5 to 5, etc. There is one company that would but they
are really thick and I did not like them. Here is a pic of this style
but in a different lug pattern.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@asu.edu> [mailto:James.Towle@asu.edu]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 9:53 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Interesting axle width numbers. Your help
appreciated
Scott,
Why not just install adapters on the 8.8? That would bring the 8.8
width out to where the D44 is and make the lug pattern match. If you
were to get some high quality adapters there shouldn't be any problem
with them breaking.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Got the Waggy 44. Here is some interesting numbers I thought I'd
throw
> your way. I'd like to compile a database of these and post them to
the
> website for future reference.
> These numbers are wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface.
>
> 61.50" TJ D30 axle with the Warn small 5 on 4.5" hub kit. 60.00" TJ
> stock axle width front and rear 60.75" Waggy 44 axle width
> 59.25" Ford 8.8
>
> Stu runs the small hub kit. His front is now 1.5" wider than the
rear
> 44. The Waggy 44 will be 1.5" wider than the 8.8 so you can't do
much
> better than that for junkyard swaps :D I've been told that being
> slightly wider up front allows the rear to track better on the
trail and
> street
>
> I'm going to get this thing under there and then the next step will
be
> Warn alloys and CTM's. I am going to go ahead and install Dutchman
> alloys in the matching 6 on 5.5" pattern into the 8.8. Should be a
> pretty stout setup for 37's.
>
> Later,
>
> Scott K
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76520 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Jan 24, 2003 5:49pm
Subject: Re: FS - 4L Throttle Body
how much?
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: <gcdclark@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:00 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] FS - 4L Throttle Body
> have an extra 4.0L throttle body laying around, from a 95yj, so all u
> guys that have a 2.5l and want a few more ponnies this will be a
> great add on, it should be a direct bolt on for any 92 and up yj with
> a 2.5l. It wilol make the seat of ur pants happy :-)
>
> Make offer
>
> Greg
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
76521 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 5:58pm
Subject: [FS] wanted paddles and front 3 rib or smoothie rail tires
Price: name your price
Contact: squarelights@aol.com
good set of tires for my rail...and if you got any other rail stuff lying around. thanks.
nick l.
Nick Lara
76522 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:30am
Subject: Better picture
Here's a close up. (Minus the screw driver) :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76523 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 11:33am
Subject: Another picture
R U tired of them yet? :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76524 From: highjeeps <highupjeep@q...> <highupjeep@q...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:05pm
Subject: History Ch - 4WD Then and Now (Rerun?)
4 anyone who has not seen this and may be interested. Watch now.
76525 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:13pm
Subject: RE: Better picture
Well you better put the screw driver back be for it leaks all your fluid out. J Seriously it looks a bit more like something cut that. Maybe the last garage you didnt pay, sabotage, or aliens. Was there an event shortly before you noticed the leak? A belt coming off, a cat in the engine, strange lights in the sky? In any case you found the problem you know the fix it is just a bummer you dont know what caused it. Maybe the fix and putting it together again might lead to a culprit.
Or maybe not.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Witt [mailto:k7ant@therim.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 12:30 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Better picture
Here's a close up. (Minus the screw driver) :)
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
God and 4 wheelers' country!
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76526 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 25, 2003 6:27pm
Subject: Re: Another picture
Clean it up and put some JB Weld on it. I know a guy that had a crack
in the block of his diesel and ran with JB Weld on it for over 50,000
miles without problems.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Witt" <k7ant@t...> wrote:
> R U tired of them yet? :)
> Bill W
> K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
> 97 TJ with a few mods.
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona.
> God and 4 wheelers' country!