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76077 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:42am
Subject: Re: Bending steel?? Is it for me??
well that sux!! thx for the info! guess i would have to spend the big bux.
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: 'onebdjeep' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
Won't work. This is a "pipe" bender. The kind of tubing you want to bend will just kink and fold over. I took the one I bought back the next day. I tried many different sizes of tubing too.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:33 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott Kruize
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
This one
32888-1VGA
Central Hydraulics 12 TON HYDRAULIC PIPE BENDER $99.99
or this one
38024-0VGA
Central Hydraulics 12 TON HYDRAULIC HORIZONTAL/VERTICAL PIPE BENDER $119.99
i guess i could do my own custom exhaust too. will this work for something like Michael did?
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: 'onebdjeep' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
I went to www.harborfreight.com typed in the word 'bender' in the search box and 10 results come up. Just out of curiosity, Which of these are you looking at?
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
Ok, I have looked at Harbor Freight and it appears that they have some pretty decent prices on metal bending equipment. The question is... Is it really worth the money and time to fabricate your own equiptment? I think that it would be pretty nice to say "Hey look at what I did!!" like ole Michael did. I am sure he will get all the compliments in the world on a trail run "Hey Mike... nice rack!!!" and he will beam with pride.
So how hard was it really Mike? Was it worth it? I have already started to save the money for the bending equip. What about making bumpers and tire carriers and stuff? What about a new cage? Where the hell do ya get the metal to do this?
Thx!
Sean (just too damn cheap to buy the goods!)
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
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76078 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:52am
Subject: Re: Battery disposal fee
Yes. Just take your old battery back (I think you need your receipt) and they will refund the fee. Take the battery to their customer service counter.
Steven Campbell
----- Original Message -----
From: CoyotEddie
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Battery disposal fee
I bought an Optima red top at Costco last week. Over the weekend I noticed on my receipt that they charged me $5 for a disposal fee, But I did not leave my old battery with them. Do I get this back if I take in my old battery?
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76079 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:14pm
Subject:
John,
Where did I ever say there should be only modified rigs out on the trails?
I said only modified rigs should be on the trails that are rated for the modified rigs. Not every trail is for a modified rig, in fact there are more trails for the less modified rigs. So why ruin the extreme trails.
When it takes 10 min. to unstack rocks at one obstacle, the person or people that needed that many rocks should not be there period!!!!
So Get a Clue JOHN!!
Todd McCullen
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:40:47 -0800
From: John Stewart <landuse@ufwda.org>
Subject: Re: Trail blockage, Rock stackers
You are misunderstanding a few points.
1 - I believe vehicles should be prepared for the trail.
2 - I do not believe EVERY trail should be hardcore extreme.
3 - I am not saying "pave" the trails. I am saying that if you
insist on extreme trails and only extreme trails, you will have not
trails.
My opening statement was "If you are saying that the ONLY people on
the trails are the ones that want the extreme trail, you are no
different than the GAG that wants no one but them on foot on the
trail."
That is my point of concern. If you are going to only allow a
certain class of modified rig on the trail, you will have a
diminishing number of people and less of a chance to keep the trails
open.
Any stacking (or unstacking) of rocks is going to lead to problems.
That is the central point around the Little Sluice on the Rubicon.
Somebody felt is was too easy; therefore they took it upon themselves
to make it harder, to keep the unmodified rigs out of their play
area, and dumped some large rocks in the trail..
This is the attitude that I am disagreeing with. In this case, did
someone feel it was too hard and decide to make it easy? So, they
fill in a few holes. Now, Todd goes around to various trails
unstacking rocks. Both actions are going to lead to problems. Just
as making a bypass around a tough spot will lead to problems.
Central to this issue is the act of modifying trail; whether to make
them harder or easier. Both are actions that will draw the attention
of the land manager and lead to environmental considerations for
closing trails. There is specific guidance within the BLM manual
(and the Forest Service manual) dealing with trail construction and
maintenance.
And, yes I do disagree with the attitude that you have the right to
modify a trail because you think it should be harder. I also
disagree with modifying the trail to make it easier. You should be
prepared.
As you are from Arizona, you should be familiar with the Skye Island
Alliance. Check out their Road Ripper Manual. They are making
trails impassible.
76080 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:37am
Subject: I will bring club decals to the BBQ at Hunter Offroad.
I need a rough idea of how many people are going to need club decals at the
Hunter Offroad club BBQ. If you are planning to attend and you need a club
decal, please email me off-list. I want to make sure that I don't need to
order more decals before the BBQ.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
76081 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:07am
Subject: Tuesday Wheeling Anyone?
Hi All:
Short day at work, didn't know if anyone was interested in wheeling on the West Side? I'm out near the White Tanks and Lake Pleasant is also nearby. I was thinking about doing Tin Can Alley, believe it's rated a 3.
Give me a shout if your interested in getting together sometime around noon:
602-421-3717
Jake
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76082 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:41am
Subject: [FS] black soft top for sale CHEAP! for a TJ
Price: CHEAP
Contact: Bernie VanBenthem
I have a black soft top from a TJ in really good shape. A little dirty from sitting in garage, but NO rips or tears; actually pretty nice.
The catch?..no upper door windows. just side and rear windows. but you can buy the upper door windows from someone else or even new if you want them.
Any fair offer will be accepted!
Bernie
Bernie Van Benthem
76083 From: Joe <flexyxj98@m...> <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:42am
Subject: FS.... Magellen GPS 315 AND A D44 No-slip
I am selling my magellen GPS 315 for 75 dollars with a Power cord for
the lighter..it is a 199.00 gps, works good and in good
shape....Santa brought a garmin E-map for X-mas.....Still have that
D44 no-slip for a L/S D44 case 300.00
FlexyXJ
76084 From: <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:53am
Subject: Saquaro Lake Coves 1-20-03 Pictures
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76085 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Dec 31, 1997 11:47pm
Subject: Wanted - ac compressor.
How much does a used compressor cost? Does anyone have one? I am going to perform the ole "Onboard Air" mod soon and want to get some ideas on priceing.
thx!
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
76086 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:50am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
Not sure about used but new there only about $100 or so from NAPA.
Keith
76087 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 1, 1998 0:09am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
well... that's not bad. at least it would have a warranty too... as long and they don't know that it is not being used for what it is intended for. kewl! thx!
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; onebdjeep
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wanted - ac compressor.
Not sure about used but new there only about $100 or so from NAPA.
Keith
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76088 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:01am
Subject: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Regarding getting the same wheel bolt pattern, that might be good or
bad. It's good if you plan to keep your front axle. It's bad if
you're going to swap out your front axle because none of the front
axles that people normally swap in come with the 5-on-4.5" bolt
pattern. This means you may end up needing to change the bolt
pattern of your rear 8.8 if you want to carry only one spare tire.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> By the time you setup a Super 35 you could have a Ford 8.8 in there
from
> an Explorer.
>
> You'll get:
>
> Less than an inch narrower than the 35. I didn't even notice.
> Same wheel bolt pattern.
> bigger 31 spline shafts compared to the 30 spline Super 35
> Disc brakes! (if its from a 95 or newer Explorer)
> Bigger stronger axle tubes
> The ring and pinion is HUGE compared to the 35.
> MORE or Tera axle brackets are much stronger than those on the 35.
> Put in your choice of locker and gears. (Either way it's a wash
because
> you need to setup the new carrier anyway.)
>
>
> You can find a 8.8 from the junkyard for $100-350. Detroit is around
> $500. Tera brackets for $200. Flange adapter for the driveshaft $30.
> Gears and setup are a wash. You were going to do these anyway. Find
a
> friend to weld on the brackets (or John at Hunter Offroad) So for
just
> a little bit more than the cost of the Super 35 you get so much more
> (and of course you just gotta love those rear disks).
>
> No need to lengthen or shorten your driveshaft. You do need a SYE
kit
> and CV driveshaft if you don't already have them.
>
> I can't think of 1 good reason to keep the 35. I built mine last
August.
> ARB, 4.56's, MORE axle brackets. I helped my friend Chris B build
his
> this past month and got to drive it on Sunday. His braking is
remarkably
> better with the discs compared to last time I drove it. He put in
4.88's
> and a limited slip. I welded the brackets on both. Shoot me an
email if
> you have any questions. It's not as intimidating as it sounds.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott K
76089 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:29am
Subject: [FS] 4 - Centerline Hellcat Rims for sale... 5 on 4 1/2.
Price: 300 obo
Contact: Smitty ---- 480-593-6102
Wheels are in great shape. They are actually drilled to fit other applications too, not sure of spacing on other holes, but I can find out if you need to know.
Dont need them anymore.
Pictures in my gallery.
Will be available begining of next week.
More info here:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=308&occlass;=C%2FL&cat;=WHE
James Smith
76090 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:31am
Subject: RE: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Roger,
Most people will never upgrade the front 30. With 297X joints it is
plenty strong for most of the people out there.
If they do swap out the front they can get 5 on 5.5" or 6 on 5.5" shafts
from Moser or Dutchman and they will redrill the rotors to match. Or you
can run Centerline Hellcat wheels which are drilled for both patterns.
I'll probably just convert the rear on mine to whatever the front I swap
in is.
Regarding cost of switching the rear bolt pattern consider this: Is it
cheaper to convert pattern or try to add disk brakes to the 35? It's
pretty much a wash here unless you don't mind the drum brakes.
And of course everybody has their own idea of the perfect rig. For
example, if you hate Fords chances are you'd die before you install a
Ford 8.8 rear. :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:02 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Regarding getting the same wheel bolt pattern, that might be good or
bad. It's good if you plan to keep your front axle. It's bad if
you're going to swap out your front axle because none of the front
axles that people normally swap in come with the 5-on-4.5" bolt
pattern. This means you may end up needing to change the bolt
pattern of your rear 8.8 if you want to carry only one spare tire.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> By the time you setup a Super 35 you could have a Ford 8.8 in there
from
> an Explorer.
>
> You'll get:
>
> Less than an inch narrower than the 35. I didn't even notice.
> Same wheel bolt pattern.
> bigger 31 spline shafts compared to the 30 spline Super 35
> Disc brakes! (if its from a 95 or newer Explorer)
> Bigger stronger axle tubes
> The ring and pinion is HUGE compared to the 35.
> MORE or Tera axle brackets are much stronger than those on the 35.
> Put in your choice of locker and gears. (Either way it's a wash
because
> you need to setup the new carrier anyway.)
>
>
> You can find a 8.8 from the junkyard for $100-350. Detroit is around
> $500. Tera brackets for $200. Flange adapter for the driveshaft $30.
> Gears and setup are a wash. You were going to do these anyway. Find
a
> friend to weld on the brackets (or John at Hunter Offroad) So for
just
> a little bit more than the cost of the Super 35 you get so much more
> (and of course you just gotta love those rear disks).
>
> No need to lengthen or shorten your driveshaft. You do need a SYE
kit
> and CV driveshaft if you don't already have them.
>
> I can't think of 1 good reason to keep the 35. I built mine last
August.
> ARB, 4.56's, MORE axle brackets. I helped my friend Chris B build
his
> this past month and got to drive it on Sunday. His braking is
remarkably
> better with the discs compared to last time I drove it. He put in
4.88's
> and a limited slip. I welded the brackets on both. Shoot me an
email if
> you have any questions. It's not as intimidating as it sounds.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott K
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76091 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:55am
Subject: Concealed Carry Class reminder
Reminder to all:
I save some openings in my CCW class this weekend (Jan 25-26)
Please e-mail me off list for more information
Tom LaFrance
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76092 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:03am
Subject: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> <snip>
> Regarding cost of switching the rear bolt pattern consider this: Is
it
> cheaper to convert pattern or try to add disk brakes to the 35? It's
> pretty much a wash here unless you don't mind the drum brakes.
> <snip>
Horshe****! Er... I mean, agreed! ;-)
I wasn't endorsing the Super 35 kit over the 8.8 swap. (Sorry if it
came across that way.) Instead, I was merely trying to point out a
possible issue that a lot of people might not think about until long
after the 8.8 swap was done and it was time for a front axle swap.
-Roger
76093 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:21am
Subject: [FS] Front DANA 44
Price: 450 obo
Contact:
Alright fellas,
this is posted for a buddy, so email or call him as I don't know a thing about a front 44 from a waggie.
This is what he currently knows:
1982 jeep wagoneer
Dana 44
stock brake setup
Stock gears whatever that may be, I think 3:73.
Pumpkin is on the driver side
$450 obo
Cell 602 363 3235
ryan.meece@avnet
Michaelk
76094 From: <B4141@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:26am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard air compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an operating ac .. the oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant. Don't waste your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty .... come on now....
Brent
76095 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:32am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
That's a York style compressor we were talking about. The one for my Kenworth truck was ~$110 from NAPA. It's the heavy duty one listed on Kelby's (?) site. The people that do the OBA setups.
Keith
76096 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 1, 1998 1:48am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
i appreciate the comment.
this write up appears to have the oil issue taken care of. http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cherokee/2001/05_may/onboard-air/onboardair1.html
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: B4141@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard air compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an operating ac .. the oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant. Don't waste your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty .... come on now....
Brent
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76097 From: Fleg . <fleigle@h...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:36am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
Oh no, does that mean the York 210 AC compressor I had my eyes on for OBA
won't work?? Even though it is a self contained unit with an internal
oiling system?? And a warrantly to boot!! [/sarcasim]
Michael
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:26:49 EST
From: B4141@a...
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard
air
compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an
operating ac .. the
oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant.
Don't waste
your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let
you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty
.... come on
now....
Brent
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76098 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...> <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:55am
Subject: ZJ lify question
Last June I installed 1.75" coil spacers on all four corners of
my ZJ, upgraded to 30x9.5x15 tires and swapped out the speedometer
gear to reflect the proper speed. Being a cheap b…… I left the
stock shocks on.
I felt I needed to gain another inch or two (max), move to 31's
once I wear out my current tires and leave it at that. If I ever
decide to get more extreme I will probably build a trail only rig.
Anyway because I wanted to gain a bit more height on my rig, last
week I got a set of 3" (3.5"?)Rancho springs from another
club member, I purchased a set of Rancho 5000 shocks for a 3"
lift
and installed the rear springs and shocks last Friday. To my
surprise, it sits at the exact same height as before, it does ride a
bit more to my liking, which I attribute to the new shocks but were
is my extra inch?. Is it likely the same will happen with the front
once I install the new springs?
Any suggestions/ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks
Jose
76099 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:59am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
LOL
At the price NAPA is quoted as having them for you are better off
going there. I thought Brad's were $199.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Fleg ." <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> Oh no, does that mean the York 210 AC compressor I had my eyes on
for OBA
> won't work?? Even though it is a self contained unit with an
internal
> oiling system?? And a warrantly to boot!! [/sarcasim]
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:26:49 EST
> From: B4141@a...
> Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
>
> In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard
> air
> compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an
> operating ac .. the
> oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant.
> Don't waste
> your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let
> you down.
>
> Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty
> .... come on
> now....
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
>
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76100 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:00am
Subject: Re: ZJ lify question
Jose,
I bet those 3" springs relaxed to 2 inches or less. One good thing about
your spacers is that they never relax :)
How about putting the spacer in as well?
Frank
>From: "Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>" <off-road@c...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ lify question
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:55:10 -0000
>
>Last June I installed 1.75" coil spacers on all four corners of
>my ZJ, upgraded to 30x9.5x15 tires and swapped out the speedometer
>gear to reflect the proper speed. Being a cheap b…… I left the
>stock shocks on.
>
>I felt I needed to gain another inch or two (max), move to 31's
>once I wear out my current tires and leave it at that. If I ever
>decide to get more extreme I will probably build a trail only rig.
>
>Anyway because I wanted to gain a bit more height on my rig, last
>week I got a set of 3" (3.5"?)Rancho springs from another
>club member, I purchased a set of Rancho 5000 shocks for a 3"
>lift
>and installed the rear springs and shocks last Friday. To my
>surprise, it sits at the exact same height as before, it does ride a
>bit more to my liking, which I attribute to the new shocks but were
>is my extra inch?. Is it likely the same will happen with the front
>once I install the new springs?
>
>Any suggestions/ideas will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Jose
>
>
>
>
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76101 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:55am
Subject: Slightly OT: got air in that spare?
I thought I'd post since this is an "automotive" group...
I was checking my tires on the old sedan, (all 4 were a little low)
Then I decided to check the donut spare in the trunk. Wouldn't you
know it: 12 lbs! (it should have 60 lbs.) Sure, I keep good tires on
the car, but you never know. If I'd had a flat, I would have been
S.O.L. and pretty emarassed, too.
If you have a wife/GF/SO or family car, check that spare- It would
really suck for it to be too flat to use when you really need it.
Have a nice day :)
Russell G.
76077 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:42am
Subject: Re: Bending steel?? Is it for me??
well that sux!! thx for the info! guess i would have to spend the big bux.
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: 'onebdjeep' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
Won't work. This is a "pipe" bender. The kind of tubing you want to bend will just kink and fold over. I took the one I bought back the next day. I tried many different sizes of tubing too.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:33 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Scott Kruize
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
This one
32888-1VGA
Central Hydraulics 12 TON HYDRAULIC PIPE BENDER $99.99
or this one
38024-0VGA
Central Hydraulics 12 TON HYDRAULIC HORIZONTAL/VERTICAL PIPE BENDER $119.99
i guess i could do my own custom exhaust too. will this work for something like Michael did?
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: 'onebdjeep' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
I went to www.harborfreight.com typed in the word 'bender' in the search box and 10 results come up. Just out of curiosity, Which of these are you looking at?
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:26 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Bending steel?? Is it for me??
Ok, I have looked at Harbor Freight and it appears that they have some pretty decent prices on metal bending equipment. The question is... Is it really worth the money and time to fabricate your own equiptment? I think that it would be pretty nice to say "Hey look at what I did!!" like ole Michael did. I am sure he will get all the compliments in the world on a trail run "Hey Mike... nice rack!!!" and he will beam with pride.
So how hard was it really Mike? Was it worth it? I have already started to save the money for the bending equip. What about making bumpers and tire carriers and stuff? What about a new cage? Where the hell do ya get the metal to do this?
Thx!
Sean (just too damn cheap to buy the goods!)
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
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76078 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:52am
Subject: Re: Battery disposal fee
Yes. Just take your old battery back (I think you need your receipt) and they will refund the fee. Take the battery to their customer service counter.
Steven Campbell
----- Original Message -----
From: CoyotEddie
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 5:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Battery disposal fee
I bought an Optima red top at Costco last week. Over the weekend I noticed on my receipt that they charged me $5 for a disposal fee, But I did not leave my old battery with them. Do I get this back if I take in my old battery?
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76079 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003 8:14pm
Subject:
John,
Where did I ever say there should be only modified rigs out on the trails?
I said only modified rigs should be on the trails that are rated for the modified rigs. Not every trail is for a modified rig, in fact there are more trails for the less modified rigs. So why ruin the extreme trails.
When it takes 10 min. to unstack rocks at one obstacle, the person or people that needed that many rocks should not be there period!!!!
So Get a Clue JOHN!!
Todd McCullen
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 22:40:47 -0800
From: John Stewart <landuse@ufwda.org>
Subject: Re: Trail blockage, Rock stackers
You are misunderstanding a few points.
1 - I believe vehicles should be prepared for the trail.
2 - I do not believe EVERY trail should be hardcore extreme.
3 - I am not saying "pave" the trails. I am saying that if you
insist on extreme trails and only extreme trails, you will have not
trails.
My opening statement was "If you are saying that the ONLY people on
the trails are the ones that want the extreme trail, you are no
different than the GAG that wants no one but them on foot on the
trail."
That is my point of concern. If you are going to only allow a
certain class of modified rig on the trail, you will have a
diminishing number of people and less of a chance to keep the trails
open.
Any stacking (or unstacking) of rocks is going to lead to problems.
That is the central point around the Little Sluice on the Rubicon.
Somebody felt is was too easy; therefore they took it upon themselves
to make it harder, to keep the unmodified rigs out of their play
area, and dumped some large rocks in the trail..
This is the attitude that I am disagreeing with. In this case, did
someone feel it was too hard and decide to make it easy? So, they
fill in a few holes. Now, Todd goes around to various trails
unstacking rocks. Both actions are going to lead to problems. Just
as making a bypass around a tough spot will lead to problems.
Central to this issue is the act of modifying trail; whether to make
them harder or easier. Both are actions that will draw the attention
of the land manager and lead to environmental considerations for
closing trails. There is specific guidance within the BLM manual
(and the Forest Service manual) dealing with trail construction and
maintenance.
And, yes I do disagree with the attitude that you have the right to
modify a trail because you think it should be harder. I also
disagree with modifying the trail to make it easier. You should be
prepared.
As you are from Arizona, you should be familiar with the Skye Island
Alliance. Check out their Road Ripper Manual. They are making
trails impassible.
76080 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 6:37am
Subject: I will bring club decals to the BBQ at Hunter Offroad.
I need a rough idea of how many people are going to need club decals at the
Hunter Offroad club BBQ. If you are planning to attend and you need a club
decal, please email me off-list. I want to make sure that I don't need to
order more decals before the BBQ.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
76081 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:07am
Subject: Tuesday Wheeling Anyone?
Hi All:
Short day at work, didn't know if anyone was interested in wheeling on the West Side? I'm out near the White Tanks and Lake Pleasant is also nearby. I was thinking about doing Tin Can Alley, believe it's rated a 3.
Give me a shout if your interested in getting together sometime around noon:
602-421-3717
Jake
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76082 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:41am
Subject: [FS] black soft top for sale CHEAP! for a TJ
Price: CHEAP
Contact: Bernie VanBenthem
I have a black soft top from a TJ in really good shape. A little dirty from sitting in garage, but NO rips or tears; actually pretty nice.
The catch?..no upper door windows. just side and rear windows. but you can buy the upper door windows from someone else or even new if you want them.
Any fair offer will be accepted!
Bernie
Bernie Van Benthem
76083 From: Joe <flexyxj98@m...> <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:42am
Subject: FS.... Magellen GPS 315 AND A D44 No-slip
I am selling my magellen GPS 315 for 75 dollars with a Power cord for
the lighter..it is a 199.00 gps, works good and in good
shape....Santa brought a garmin E-map for X-mas.....Still have that
D44 no-slip for a L/S D44 case 300.00
FlexyXJ
76084 From: <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:53am
Subject: Saquaro Lake Coves 1-20-03 Pictures
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To: azvjc@azvjc.org
Group:
Here are some of my shots at Saquaro Lake Coves 1-20-03. I have larger versions available, e-mail me off line if you want copies.
Enjoy,
Gary
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76085 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Dec 31, 1997 11:47pm
Subject: Wanted - ac compressor.
How much does a used compressor cost? Does anyone have one? I am going to perform the ole "Onboard Air" mod soon and want to get some ideas on priceing.
thx!
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
76086 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 8:50am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
Not sure about used but new there only about $100 or so from NAPA.
Keith
76087 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 1, 1998 0:09am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
well... that's not bad. at least it would have a warranty too... as long and they don't know that it is not being used for what it is intended for. kewl! thx!
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com ; onebdjeep
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wanted - ac compressor.
Not sure about used but new there only about $100 or so from NAPA.
Keith
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76088 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:01am
Subject: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Regarding getting the same wheel bolt pattern, that might be good or
bad. It's good if you plan to keep your front axle. It's bad if
you're going to swap out your front axle because none of the front
axles that people normally swap in come with the 5-on-4.5" bolt
pattern. This means you may end up needing to change the bolt
pattern of your rear 8.8 if you want to carry only one spare tire.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> By the time you setup a Super 35 you could have a Ford 8.8 in there
from
> an Explorer.
>
> You'll get:
>
> Less than an inch narrower than the 35. I didn't even notice.
> Same wheel bolt pattern.
> bigger 31 spline shafts compared to the 30 spline Super 35
> Disc brakes! (if its from a 95 or newer Explorer)
> Bigger stronger axle tubes
> The ring and pinion is HUGE compared to the 35.
> MORE or Tera axle brackets are much stronger than those on the 35.
> Put in your choice of locker and gears. (Either way it's a wash
because
> you need to setup the new carrier anyway.)
>
>
> You can find a 8.8 from the junkyard for $100-350. Detroit is around
> $500. Tera brackets for $200. Flange adapter for the driveshaft $30.
> Gears and setup are a wash. You were going to do these anyway. Find
a
> friend to weld on the brackets (or John at Hunter Offroad) So for
just
> a little bit more than the cost of the Super 35 you get so much more
> (and of course you just gotta love those rear disks).
>
> No need to lengthen or shorten your driveshaft. You do need a SYE
kit
> and CV driveshaft if you don't already have them.
>
> I can't think of 1 good reason to keep the 35. I built mine last
August.
> ARB, 4.56's, MORE axle brackets. I helped my friend Chris B build
his
> this past month and got to drive it on Sunday. His braking is
remarkably
> better with the discs compared to last time I drove it. He put in
4.88's
> and a limited slip. I welded the brackets on both. Shoot me an
email if
> you have any questions. It's not as intimidating as it sounds.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott K
76089 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:29am
Subject: [FS] 4 - Centerline Hellcat Rims for sale... 5 on 4 1/2.
Price: 300 obo
Contact: Smitty ---- 480-593-6102
Wheels are in great shape. They are actually drilled to fit other applications too, not sure of spacing on other holes, but I can find out if you need to know.
Dont need them anymore.
Pictures in my gallery.
Will be available begining of next week.
More info here:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/product2.asp?imseqn=308&occlass;=C%2FL&cat;=WHE
James Smith
76090 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:31am
Subject: RE: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Roger,
Most people will never upgrade the front 30. With 297X joints it is
plenty strong for most of the people out there.
If they do swap out the front they can get 5 on 5.5" or 6 on 5.5" shafts
from Moser or Dutchman and they will redrill the rotors to match. Or you
can run Centerline Hellcat wheels which are drilled for both patterns.
I'll probably just convert the rear on mine to whatever the front I swap
in is.
Regarding cost of switching the rear bolt pattern consider this: Is it
cheaper to convert pattern or try to add disk brakes to the 35? It's
pretty much a wash here unless you don't mind the drum brakes.
And of course everybody has their own idea of the perfect rig. For
example, if you hate Fords chances are you'd die before you install a
Ford 8.8 rear. :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 10:02 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: super 35, gears & locker?
Regarding getting the same wheel bolt pattern, that might be good or
bad. It's good if you plan to keep your front axle. It's bad if
you're going to swap out your front axle because none of the front
axles that people normally swap in come with the 5-on-4.5" bolt
pattern. This means you may end up needing to change the bolt
pattern of your rear 8.8 if you want to carry only one spare tire.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> By the time you setup a Super 35 you could have a Ford 8.8 in there
from
> an Explorer.
>
> You'll get:
>
> Less than an inch narrower than the 35. I didn't even notice.
> Same wheel bolt pattern.
> bigger 31 spline shafts compared to the 30 spline Super 35
> Disc brakes! (if its from a 95 or newer Explorer)
> Bigger stronger axle tubes
> The ring and pinion is HUGE compared to the 35.
> MORE or Tera axle brackets are much stronger than those on the 35.
> Put in your choice of locker and gears. (Either way it's a wash
because
> you need to setup the new carrier anyway.)
>
>
> You can find a 8.8 from the junkyard for $100-350. Detroit is around
> $500. Tera brackets for $200. Flange adapter for the driveshaft $30.
> Gears and setup are a wash. You were going to do these anyway. Find
a
> friend to weld on the brackets (or John at Hunter Offroad) So for
just
> a little bit more than the cost of the Super 35 you get so much more
> (and of course you just gotta love those rear disks).
>
> No need to lengthen or shorten your driveshaft. You do need a SYE
kit
> and CV driveshaft if you don't already have them.
>
> I can't think of 1 good reason to keep the 35. I built mine last
August.
> ARB, 4.56's, MORE axle brackets. I helped my friend Chris B build
his
> this past month and got to drive it on Sunday. His braking is
remarkably
> better with the discs compared to last time I drove it. He put in
4.88's
> and a limited slip. I welded the brackets on both. Shoot me an
email if
> you have any questions. It's not as intimidating as it sounds.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott K
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76091 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 9:55am
Subject: Concealed Carry Class reminder
Reminder to all:
I save some openings in my CCW class this weekend (Jan 25-26)
Please e-mail me off list for more information
Tom LaFrance
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76092 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:03am
Subject: Re: super 35, gears & locker?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> <snip>
> Regarding cost of switching the rear bolt pattern consider this: Is
it
> cheaper to convert pattern or try to add disk brakes to the 35? It's
> pretty much a wash here unless you don't mind the drum brakes.
> <snip>
Horshe****! Er... I mean, agreed! ;-)
I wasn't endorsing the Super 35 kit over the 8.8 swap. (Sorry if it
came across that way.) Instead, I was merely trying to point out a
possible issue that a lot of people might not think about until long
after the 8.8 swap was done and it was time for a front axle swap.
-Roger
76093 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:21am
Subject: [FS] Front DANA 44
Price: 450 obo
Contact:
Alright fellas,
this is posted for a buddy, so email or call him as I don't know a thing about a front 44 from a waggie.
This is what he currently knows:
1982 jeep wagoneer
Dana 44
stock brake setup
Stock gears whatever that may be, I think 3:73.
Pumpkin is on the driver side
$450 obo
Cell 602 363 3235
ryan.meece@avnet
Michaelk
76094 From: <B4141@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 5:26am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard air compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an operating ac .. the oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant. Don't waste your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty .... come on now....
Brent
76095 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:32am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
That's a York style compressor we were talking about. The one for my Kenworth truck was ~$110 from NAPA. It's the heavy duty one listed on Kelby's (?) site. The people that do the OBA setups.
Keith
76096 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 1, 1998 1:48am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
i appreciate the comment.
this write up appears to have the oil issue taken care of. http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cherokee/2001/05_may/onboard-air/onboardair1.html
Sean Speer
OneBdJeep (someday!!)
'97 TJ with killer mods to come!!!
(umm... will drink beer for Jeep parts!!!)
----- Original Message -----
From: B4141@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 11:26 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard air compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an operating ac .. the oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant. Don't waste your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty .... come on now....
Brent
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76097 From: Fleg . <fleigle@h...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:36am
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
Oh no, does that mean the York 210 AC compressor I had my eyes on for OBA
won't work?? Even though it is a self contained unit with an internal
oiling system?? And a warrantly to boot!! [/sarcasim]
Michael
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:26:49 EST
From: B4141@a...
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard
air
compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an
operating ac .. the
oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant.
Don't waste
your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let
you down.
Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty
.... come on
now....
Brent
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76098 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...> <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:55am
Subject: ZJ lify question
Last June I installed 1.75" coil spacers on all four corners of
my ZJ, upgraded to 30x9.5x15 tires and swapped out the speedometer
gear to reflect the proper speed. Being a cheap b…… I left the
stock shocks on.
I felt I needed to gain another inch or two (max), move to 31's
once I wear out my current tires and leave it at that. If I ever
decide to get more extreme I will probably build a trail only rig.
Anyway because I wanted to gain a bit more height on my rig, last
week I got a set of 3" (3.5"?)Rancho springs from another
club member, I purchased a set of Rancho 5000 shocks for a 3"
lift
and installed the rear springs and shocks last Friday. To my
surprise, it sits at the exact same height as before, it does ride a
bit more to my liking, which I attribute to the new shocks but were
is my extra inch?. Is it likely the same will happen with the front
once I install the new springs?
Any suggestions/ideas will be appreciated.
Thanks
Jose
76099 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 10:59am
Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
LOL
At the price NAPA is quoted as having them for you are better off
going there. I thought Brad's were $199.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Fleg ." <fleigle@h...> wrote:
> Oh no, does that mean the York 210 AC compressor I had my eyes on
for OBA
> won't work?? Even though it is a self contained unit with an
internal
> oiling system?? And a warrantly to boot!! [/sarcasim]
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 13:26:49 EST
> From: B4141@a...
> Subject: Re: Wanted - ac compressor.
>
> In a message dated 1/21/03 9:58:56 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> A auto AC compressor won't last long at all as an onboard
> air
> compressor. It has to have a constant oil supply. In an
> operating ac .. the
> oil is supplied in vapor form, circulating with the refrigerant.
> Don't waste
> your time.... the first time you really need it, it will let
> you down.
>
> Knowingly ruining something because it has a warranty
> .... come on
> now....
>
> Brent
>
>
>
>
>
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76100 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:00am
Subject: Re: ZJ lify question
Jose,
I bet those 3" springs relaxed to 2 inches or less. One good thing about
your spacers is that they never relax :)
How about putting the spacer in as well?
Frank
>From: "Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>" <off-road@c...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ lify question
>Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2003 18:55:10 -0000
>
>Last June I installed 1.75" coil spacers on all four corners of
>my ZJ, upgraded to 30x9.5x15 tires and swapped out the speedometer
>gear to reflect the proper speed. Being a cheap b…… I left the
>stock shocks on.
>
>I felt I needed to gain another inch or two (max), move to 31's
>once I wear out my current tires and leave it at that. If I ever
>decide to get more extreme I will probably build a trail only rig.
>
>Anyway because I wanted to gain a bit more height on my rig, last
>week I got a set of 3" (3.5"?)Rancho springs from another
>club member, I purchased a set of Rancho 5000 shocks for a 3"
>lift
>and installed the rear springs and shocks last Friday. To my
>surprise, it sits at the exact same height as before, it does ride a
>bit more to my liking, which I attribute to the new shocks but were
>is my extra inch?. Is it likely the same will happen with the front
>once I install the new springs?
>
>Any suggestions/ideas will be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>Jose
>
>
>
>
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76101 From: Russell Gevarter <gev39@y...> <gev39@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:55am
Subject: Slightly OT: got air in that spare?
I thought I'd post since this is an "automotive" group...
I was checking my tires on the old sedan, (all 4 were a little low)
Then I decided to check the donut spare in the trunk. Wouldn't you
know it: 12 lbs! (it should have 60 lbs.) Sure, I keep good tires on
the car, but you never know. If I'd had a flat, I would have been
S.O.L. and pretty emarassed, too.
If you have a wife/GF/SO or family car, check that spare- It would
really suck for it to be too flat to use when you really need it.
Have a nice day :)
Russell G.