blooddrive
01-07-2004, 09:37 PM
75576-75600
75576 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:59am
Subject: Moab
I would like to go with a group when is everybody leaving. I have reservation at the Apache Hotel and checking in on 4/16/2003
Rick Logan 92 YJ
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75577 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:59am
Subject: [TR] Moab - Wednesday, April 16, 2003
Hello All,
Richard Logan is leading a Moab trail run on Wednesday, April 16, 2003.
When: April/16th 2003
Where: Leaving from Gilbert AZ
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Leaving for Moab to do some good slick rock N
[Someone please send me some information on the trails in this area...]
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
75578 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:02am
Subject: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
LOL
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
<James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> wrote:
> > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
up
> there
> > still...not sold.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> >
> >
> > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
to
> > use
> > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
tops
> > and
> > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
affiliated
> > > with them just passing it along.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > >
> > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
as
> > a
> > > password you will need to enter the site.
> > >
> > > Please read all terms and conditions before shopping from this
> > > section, and be sure to enter VIPJAN02 when prompted during
> > > checkout.
> > >
> > > All products contained in this section are sold while quantities
> > > last.
> > > Scratch and Dent products are sold "AS IS".
> > >
> > > Use this link to access the section:
> > > http://www.4wd.com/shop4wd/sale/sdmain.asp
> > >
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> >
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75579 From: Scott Tate <scott@t...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:07am
Subject: Front Speaker Stud Bolt Sizes
Hello all,
I've just put new speakers in my YJ that recently had none in the front. I was going to run to Home Depot today to get some bolts that go on the small studs that hold the speakers in place. I was wondering in anyone knew the bolt size. The studs are pretty small. Or if you at least know if they are metric or not, I can kind of buy a handful of everything.
Thanks in advance.
Scott
75580 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:09am
Subject: Re: Nasty tow strap picture
What happened to the driver?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "ArizonaXJ"
<arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
> Wanna see why you should buy a good tow strap, and not one of the cheap
> ones with the metal hooks attached? Wanna see why you shouldn't hook a
> strap to a tow hitch ball?
>
> http://www.cataclysm.net/4x4/killerstrap.jpg
>
> Something to think about.
>
> Mike
> --
> What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
> we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
75581 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:13am
Subject: RE: Nasty tow strap picture
He ducked.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Beckham [mailto:jeepnut7261@h...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:10 AM
To: mgolden@c...; AZVJC; ArizonaXJ
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
What happened to the driver?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "ArizonaXJ"
<arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
> Wanna see why you should buy a good tow strap, and not one of the
> cheap ones with the metal hooks attached? Wanna see why you shouldn't
> hook a strap to a tow hitch ball?
>
> http://www.cataclysm.net/4x4/killerstrap.jpg
>
> Something to think about.
>
> Mike
> --
> What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
> we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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75582 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:14am
Subject: RE: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
OOOOoooo
Are you going to take that Scott? You could probably just use Mike's
Jeep as an RTI ramp to shut him up! LOL
:) too much fun
Joey K
Itty bitty 93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
[mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
LOL
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
<James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> wrote:
> > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
up
> there
> > still...not sold.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> >
> >
> > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
to
> > use
> > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
tops
> > and
> > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
affiliated
> > > with them just passing it along.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > >
> > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
as
> > a
> > > password you will need to enter the site.
> > >
> > > Please read all terms and conditions before shopping from this
> > > section, and be sure to enter VIPJAN02 when prompted during
> > > checkout.
> > >
> > > All products contained in this section are sold while quantities
> > > last. Scratch and Dent products are sold "AS IS".
> > >
> > > Use this link to access the section:
> > > http://www.4wd.com/shop4wd/sale/sdmain.asp
> > >
> > > Use this password to enter the section: VIPJAN02
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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75583 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:17am
Subject: [FS] Alternator, A/C Compressor
Price: 100.00 ea
Contact: Mark
they are off a 99tj don't need do you
Mark Shillington
75584 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:19am
Subject: Re: Problem with Front Axles
Joey's reply is excellent. I'd add a couple points. First, you can
detect a leak in the vacuum lines using a piece of rubber tubing.
With the Jeep running, t-case and 4WD and tranny in neutral, hold one
end of the tubing to your ear and use the other end to trace along the
vacuum lines listening for a 'hissing' sound. You'll have to listen
closely since the running motor make a lot of noise and because much
of the vacuum lines are enclosed in the black corrugated plasting
tubing for protection. You'll want the tubing to be a couple feet
long and you'll want to trace from the axle to the t-case and then
back to the motor.
Second, new vacuum harnesses cost only about $33 from a dealer.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Craig,
> Why do you say the front axle is not locking in? Is there a locker in
> the differential?
>
> I am going to assume that you have an open front axel. Here are a couple
> of tests you perform. First start the Jeep, apply the emergency break
> and put the transmission in neutral. Also put the transfer case in 4WD.
> Now on the passenger side of the axel there is a couple of vacuum line
> connecting to the axel disconnect. Pull them off the disconnect and see
> if there is suction on one of the lines. If so take the transfer case
> out of 4WD putting it in 2WD and check the vacuum lines again. Now the
> other line should have suction.
> If you do not have suction on either of the lines the things to check
> would be to make sure the other end is connected at the transfer case
> and the condition of the lines. You want to look for cracks, kinks,
> breaks or even pinches in the line.
> If the lines are good the next test would be to verify the engagement
> ring and fork are working. You need to put the front axel on jack stands
> with the tires off the ground (or a large floor jack in the middle of
> the axel will work). Turn on the engine, to create a vacuum, put the
> transmission in neutral and transfer case in 4WD. Now try to turn the
> passenger side tire. One of two things should happen. Either it won't
> turn because the drive shafts are locked together and the rear wheels
> are preventing it from turning. OR it will turn and the drivers side
> wheel turns in the opposite direction. If you do have a locker the wheel
> will turn in the same direction.
> If this does not happen you will have to place a pan under the
> disconnect to catch the gear oil while you remove the cover. Check the
> inner workings for any thing broken (the fork) or maybe gunk build up on
> the axel splines keeping the sleeve from moving. You will also be able
> to check the functionality if a friend can move the transfer case in and
> out of 4WD.
>
> Or something like that.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig Whittington [mailto:cwhittington@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:10 PM
> > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Problem with Front Axles
> >
> >
> > i have a 1990 YJ and my front axles are not locking in, the
> > transfer case
> > is working properly and the drive shaft is turning but i have no idea
> > what to look for and why the axles are not locking in, if
> > anyone has a
> > clue what i can check out please let me know.
> >
> > thanks
> > Craig Whittington
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
75585 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:20am
Subject: [FS] 4.2 Liter Motor
Price: 600.00 obo
Contact: mark
4.2 Liter out of my 90Yj Complete with all hardware compressor/condenser/p/s pump/etc
Mark Shillington
75586 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:22am
Subject: Re: Problem with front axles
More good info from Tom. I'll add that you should also pay attention
to where the vacuum lines run under the battery tray because dripped
battery acid also takes its toll on the vacuum lines.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Pretty good description for trouble shooting, Joey!
>
> Craig, if you're not getting vacuum at the actuator, be sure to trace the vac lines to actuator all the way back up to their source (ie. manifold vacuum). Pay particular attention to where the vac lines run close to heat sources. Seems Jeep, and some mechanics, like to run lines under the air cleaner assy and in turn, quite close to the engine. The little "T" fittings that form junctions in the vacuum line routing can easily melt shut. Hopefully, this turns out to be your problem, as it's extremely cheap and easy to fix. Some new line and fittings at Autozone will be less than $5. Be sure to run the new line thru a cooler spot, though! Even if you need a whole new vacuum harness (the colored hard plastic lines), they are still relatively cheap to get...about $35 - $45 from dealer, I believe.
>
> Bottom line is you've got some cheap, easy things to check out (and that are know to fail/deteriorate) before planning on doing an axle shaft swap.
>
> Best of luck,
> Tom J.
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:38:03 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Problem with Front Axles
>
> Craig,
> Why do you say the front axle is not locking in? Is there a locker in
> the differential?
>
> I am going to assume that you have an open front axel. Here are a couple
> of tests you perform. First start the Jeep, apply the emergency break
> and put the transmission in neutral. Also put the transfer case in 4WD.
> Now on the passenger side of the axel there is a couple of vacuum line
> connecting to the axel disconnect. Pull them off the disconnect and see
> if there is suction on one of the lines. If so take the transfer case
> out of 4WD putting it in 2WD and check the vacuum lines again. Now the
> other line should have suction.
> If you do not have suction on either of the lines the things to check
> would be to make sure the other end is connected at the transfer case
> and the condition of the lines. You want to look for cracks, kinks,
> breaks or even pinches in the line.
> If the lines are good the next test would be to verify the engagement
> ring and fork are working. You need to put the front axel on jack stands
> with the tires off the ground (or a large floor jack in the middle of
> the axel will work). Turn on the engine, to create a vacuum, put the
> transmission in neutral and transfer case in 4WD. Now try to turn the
> passenger side tire. One of two things should happen. Either it won't
> turn because the drive shafts are locked together and the rear wheels
> are preventing it from turning. OR it will turn and the drivers side
> wheel turns in the opposite direction. If you do have a locker the wheel
> will turn in the same direction.
> If this does not happen you will have to place a pan under the
> disconnect to catch the gear oil while you remove the cover. Check the
> inner workings for any thing broken (the fork) or maybe gunk build up on
> the axel splines keeping the sleeve from moving. You will also be able
> to check the functionality if a friend can move the transfer case in and
> out of 4WD.
>
> Or something like that.
>
> Joey K
75587 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:32am
Subject: RE: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
I see how you are Joey, cc his name on the e-mail.....
Just wait till you brake another pin and need it replaced while you are on
the east side of town....:)
Mike
--- DesertJeep <Joey@D...> wrote:
> OOOOoooo
>
> Are you going to take that Scott? You could probably just use Mike's
> Jeep as an RTI ramp to shut him up! LOL
>
> :) too much fun
> Joey K
> Itty bitty 93YJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
>
>
> Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
>
> LOL
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
> <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
> up
> > there
> > > still...not sold.
> > >
> > > --Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> > >
> > >
> > > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
> to
> > > use
> > > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
> tops
> > > and
> > > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
> affiliated
> > > > with them just passing it along.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > > >
> > > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
> as
> > > a
> > > > password you will need to enter the site.
> > > >
> > > > Please read all terms and conditions before shopping from this
> > > > section, and be sure to enter VIPJAN02 when prompted during
> > > > checkout.
> > > >
> > > > All products contained in this section are sold while quantities
> > > > last. Scratch and Dent products are sold "AS IS".
> > > >
> > > > Use this link to access the section:
> > > > http://www.4wd.com/shop4wd/sale/sdmain.asp
> > > >
> > > > Use this password to enter the section: VIPJAN02
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>
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75588 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Re: [FS] NEEDED in Tucson - A Welder
You may wish to give Scott Sides at ProFab Welding a call. He's well respected.
3663 E 44th Street
722-8573
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] NEEDED in Tucson - A Welder
Price:
Contact: Norm - 520-240-4260
I need some welding on a C J (structure cracks) at a FAIR price...... Thanks
Norm Le Blanc
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75589 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:43am
Subject: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
75590 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Mr. ENB (John) or anyone with access to parts books
Since there has been some talk about F&R discs and the proportioning valves
I was wondering if someone could look at the parts books for a Rubicon
proportioning valve (the Rubicons have F&R discs for those that don't know).
Is this valve different from other TJ's?
Is it possible to get one of these valves?
What would it cost, with the club discount, for on of these? lol
Any other information...
TIA
--James
75591 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:49am
Subject: Fwd: [Landuse] Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan; Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
The notice contains a statement: "Within the NRA there is a 320-mile
public trail network made up of trails and dirt service roads."
As this is notice to prepare an EIS for the trail management and
there are defined "dirt service roads", if you have an interest in
the area, please consider submitting comments to support motorized
access to the "existing dirt service roads" as a viable recreation
opportunity.
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/03-1003.htm
[Federal Register: January 16, 2003 (Volume 68, Number 11)]
[Notices]
[Page 2356-2357]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr16ja03-105]
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
National Park Service
Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan; Santa Monica Mountains
National Recreation Area Los Angeles
and Ventura Counties, CA; Notice of Intent To Prepare an
Environmental Impact Statement
Summary: In accord with Sec. 102(2)(c) of the National
Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (Pub. L. 91-190), the National Park
Service is initiating the conservation planning and environmental
impact analysis process for an interagency regional trail management
plan (TMP) for the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area.
The TMP will serve as a ``blueprint'' establishing the overall
direction of future development and management of the trail network
over the next ten to fifteen years. Based on desired conditions to be
identified for park natural, cultural and recreational resources, the
TMP will prescribe policies to streamline interagency management of
the trail network throughout the national recreation area, and will
also include a trail policy map depicting the planned trail network.
The TMP could potentially result in a program modifying current trail
policies, recreational use patterns, and future trail openings and
closures.
The National Park Service has invited the California Department
of Parks and Recreation and the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy
(SMMC) to be cooperators in the preparation of the TMP. Following
publication of this notice to prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS), the state of California will issue a notice of
preparation initiating a complementary Environmental Impact Report
(EIR). The official responsible for the EIR will be Ruth Coleman,
Acting Director, California Department of Parks and Recreation (CDPR).
Background: The Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
(NRA) encompasses 150,050 acres, with approximately 71,300 acres of
public parkland and the rest in private or other government
ownership. Within the NRA there is a 320-mile public trail network
made up of trails and dirt service roads. The greater Santa Monica
Mountains trail network adjacent to the NRA features over 80
additional miles of public trails, several of which are linked to the
NRA network. Public lands and trails in the NRA are managed by
federal, state and local agencies with varying management policies.
Additionally, much of the trail network consists of utility and old
ranch roads that were inherited with the land and are not necessarily
constructed to public trail management standards. After almost 25
years of continuous land acquisition, the public trail network has
grown significantly, and several trails now cross-parkland
jurisdictional boundaries. There is the need to formulate an
interagency regional trail plan to compile trail management policies
to facilitate a seamless recreational experience for trail users and
to prepare a vision for the final trail network and future
development of trail-related facilities, ranging from trail network
signs to backcountry trail camps.
Alternatives: In cooperating to prepare a regional trails plan,
the NPS, CDPR and SMMC will jointly identify and analyze several
alternative trail network designs, consistent with agency policies.
At this time, it is anticipated that alternatives to be compared and
analyzed will include ``No Action'' (maintaining existing conditions
and management), a ``Preferred'' alternative, and several other
options for contrasting recreational use patterns. The TMP EIS/EIR
will evaluate the potential environmental impacts of the
alternatives, and identify suitable mitigation strategies. An
``environmentally preferred'' alternative will be identified, and any
potential impairments to national park values will also be disclosed.
The alternatives will be based on input from the community, an
environmental constraints analysis using current environmental
condition information, trail network maintenance costs, and several
visitor recreational use surveys conducted in the national recreation
area.
Issues: The draft TMP EIS/EIR will address environmental and
social impacts associated with the national recreation area's trail
network. Environmental issues will include, but not be limited to,
trail and/or trailhead adjacency to sensitive plant and animal
species' habitats; adjacency to cultural and archaeological resource
sites; trail erosion and impacts on water resources; soils and
geology impacts from trail presence and new trail construction; back
country camp impacts including fire hazard potential. Social impacts
will include, but not be limited to, allowable uses and user
conflicts on trails; trail network public access; trail network
compliance with Americans with Disabilities Act requirements;
proposed trail and trailhead construction; trail network management
and operation guidelines; and trail network signs.
Public Involvement: The NPS will conduct a conservation planning
and environmental impact analysis for the proposed interagency
regional TMP. Written comments that identify concerns and issues,
provide essential environmental information, and suggest reasonable
design alternatives are desired in initiating the TMP EIS/EIR
process. All respondents will later have an opportunity to review the
draft TMP EIS/ EIR and submit additional comments. Public scoping
for a interagency trail plan began with the Santa Monica Mountains
Area Recreational Trails (SMMART) project that culminated in the 1997
SMMART Report. The SMMART Report is available for review at
http://www.nps.gov/samo/trails. The SMMART Report contains the
public's recommendations regarding missing links in the trail
network, back country camps along the regional Backbone Trail, trail
network sign guidelines, multiple use trail guidelines, and trail
system design. The report also identified priority coordination
issues, including interagency cooperation, volunteer commitment, and
multi- agency trail crew and equipment sharing. In addition, all
information on trail-related issues previously received during public
comment regarding the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
General Management Plan/EIS will also be considered in preparing the
draft TMP EIS/EIR.
Any new issues or concerns, or information relevant to TMP process,
are requested at this time. All such written comments must be
postmarked or transmitted not later than 45 days following the
publication of this Notice in the Federal Register. As soon as this
date has been determined, it will be posted on the project Web site
and included in direct mailings. Comments should be addressed to the
Superintendent, Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area,
Attn: Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan, 401 W. Hillcrest
Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91360. Comments may be faxed to (805)
370-1850, or e- mailed to SMMNRATrails@n....
If individuals submitting comments request that their name or/and
address be withheld from public disclosure, it will be honored to the
extent allowable by law. Such requests must be stated prominently in
the beginning of the comments. There also may be circumstances
wherein the NPS will withhold a respondent's identity as allowable by
law. As always: NPS will make available to public inspection all
submissions from organizations or businesses and from persons
identifying themselves as representatives or officials of
organizations and businesses; and, anonymous comments may not be
considered.
Future Information: Updated information about this conservation
planning and environmental impact analysis process will be
distributed via mailings, regional and local news media, and the
park's webpage (http://www.nps.gov/samo/trails). Responses to this
Notice will be used to update the mailing list of people interested
in receiving future information as the environmental documents are
developed. Please notify the National Park Service by mail, e-mail,
or fax at the appropriate number to request placement on the mailing
list. For all types of requests please be sure to include your
mailing address.
Decision Process: Availability of the draft TMP EIS/EIR for
review and written comment will be officially announced by Notice of
Availability in the Federal Register, as well as through local and
regional news media, the above listed Web site, and direct mailing.
At this time the draft TMP EIS/EIR is anticipated to be distributed
in fall, 2003. After due consideration of all comments on the draft
TMP EIS/EIR, a final TMP EIS/EIR would be prepared which at this
time is anticipated could be completed by July, 2004. As a delegated
EIS, the
official responsible for the final decision is the Regional Director,
Pacific West Region; subsequently the official responsible for
implementation would be the Superintendent, Santa Monica Mountains
National Recreation Area.
Dated: December 2, 2002.
Holly Bundock,
Acting Regional Director, Pacific West Region.
[FR Doc. 03-1003 Filed 1-15-03; 8:45 am]
BILLING CODE 4310-70-P
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Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
75592 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:51am
Subject: Fwd: Important Red Rock Canyon Meeting (Ridgecrest, CA)
If you are near, please consider attending this meeting.
>
>
> The California Department of Parks & Recreation will hold a public
>meeting in Ridgecrest to present management alternatives for the Last
>Chance Canyon Additions to Red Rock Canyon National Park. The addition,
>which requires a general plan amendment, involves 20,500 acres of land that
>was transferred from Bureau of Land Management jurisdiction to the state
>park system by the so-called California Desert Protection Act.
> According to a flyer from the California Department of Parks and
>Recreation, "We want your input related to these alternatives for the Last
>Chance Canyon addition lands and their incorporation into Red Rock Canyon
>State Park." The General Plan Team will be present to discuss the
>alternatives and listen to opinions about the park's future.
> This area has traditionally provided many diverse recreational
>opportunities and economic benefits such as horseback riding, gem and
>mineral collecting, OHV use, prospecting and mining, upland game hunting,
>and commercial filming and photography. The area also includes wildlife
>guzzlers that have been maintained by local sportsmen for over 50 years.
> The meeting will be held 1:00 - 3:30 p.m. on Saturday, January 18,
>2003 in the Ridgecrest City Council Chamber at 100 West California Ave.,
>Ridgecrest, California.
>
> More information if available on the California Department of Parks
>and Recreation website including; a summary of verbal and written comments
>taken at the previous meeting in Lancaster, meeting notices, CEQA
>documents, and maps of the area under consideration (see base map for
>general area). The website is located at:
>http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=22367
>
>
>
>
>This information is provided by Ron Schiller, Chairman, High Desert
>Multiple Use Coalition. As usual, please feel free to pass this
>information on to any other interested parties. Anyone wishing to receive
>future information regarding issues related to the management of public
>lands in the California Desert should send an e-mail to
>schiller@r... and request to be placed on the distribution
>list. Please print "PLEASE ADD TO LIST" in the subject line.
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
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75593 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:54am
Subject: [FS] TOW STRAPS FOR SALE
Price: $40.00
Contact: 480-948-3638
THESE ARE ACTUALLY WOVEN TOW RIGS, NOT FLAT WEBBING. the one for $40 is rated to 19,000 lbs. and is 3/4 dia 12 feet long. they are available up to 2 inch dia. rated to 131,000 lbs. contact steve at 480-948-3638
75594 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:02am
Subject: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
75595 From: robert_j_rogers2 <robert.rogers@h...> <robert.rogers@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:04am
Subject: Re: Torx bits...
Mine are from Sears, and they are good. If you can reach me I live at
101 and 7th Ave. and work at 59th Ave and Bell. (Short ride to work!)
If you need one to accept the Dimple I could mill it for you If you
give me the torx and let me know the dimple size.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Danny <dannpegg@c...>"
<dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know where to get a GOOD set of Torx bits? I keep making the
> mistake of buying the ones from Autozone and they just twist in the
> heads of the bolts...Pieces of...Well, you know. I also need to
find
> the kind with the dowel hole in the middle. My TJ has a loose upper
> crossbar in the stock rollbar and the Torx head bolt has a nipple
in
> the middle of it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> AZ_Treadhead
> LHC, AZ
75596 From: Scott Tate <scott@t...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:04am
Subject: RE: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Impossible. I've been looking at junkyards for two years for my YJ.
Still nothing. :(
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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75597 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:45am
Subject: RE: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
AMC 4x4 623-937-5899
800-882-5337
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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75598 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...> <off-road@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:11am
Subject: Re: ZJ lift kit advice?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill LaBrie" <mrbuttz@h...> wrote:
> I would not presume to call it "wisdom", but I hope this
helps:
In my opinion it comes down to what you want to do with your rig, if
you are staying on easier trails (3.0, maybe 3.5-) then you don't
need to do much to your rig. I installed a 2" budget boost and
30x9.5x15 MTRs, so far so good.
From my perspective, the up side of keeping it simple is that it
drives pretty much the same, you can "stock it" in no time,
you are not out an arm and a leg, etc. Downside, you get great
pictures of other peoples rigs doing things your rig can't do.
Another option I've heard/read about is buying a set of 3"
front springs and moving your front springs to the back, you are
supposed to get about 2-3 inches out of it, now depending on how
stiff of a spring you buy, you might end up with a different ride
quality, which might be a good thing or not, again it's down to
your
likes and dislikes.
Good luck
Jose
75599 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:21am
Subject: Fwd: Fw: snowmobile protest
The Yellowstone Snowmobile fight is still a very hot topic.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daryl Hunter [mailto:thedaryl@e...]
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:19 AM
>To: DJ Bartholomew
>Subject: snowmobile protest
>
>
>Dorothy Please circulate
>thanks
>Daryl
>
>The Eco-Tally-ban
>(<http://www.free-press.biz/eco-tally-ban.htm>http://www.free-press.biz/eco-tally-ban.htm)
>is gathering
>in West Yellowstone on President's day weekend for what appears to be an
>annual press junket where they show up to tell their lies to an invited
>press corp. The Eco-tally-ban is hell bent on ruining West Yellowstone's $85
>millon snowmobile industry, it would put most of the town out of business as
>it is touted as the snowmobile capitol of the world.
>
>President's day weekend is the only time that you can almost count on a
>smoggy West Yellowstone entrance station at 9 am as that is the busiest hour
>of the year. The Eco-tally-ban has been using that weekend for their junk
>science and propaganda since 1995 when I saw 3 rangers holding a smog meter
>at old faithful at the time the mid-day crowd was leaving Old Faithful.
>
>These Presidents day weekend propaganda outings have all of the intellectual
>integrity of a Los Angeles smog study when Malibu is on fire. The
>Eco-tally-ban presents these conditions as daily fact and the press corp
>spoon-feeds this crap to a gullible American public, bogus gas masks and
>all.
>
>The Winter Wildlands Alliance
>(<http://www.winterwildlands.org>http://www.winterwildlands.org)
>group is
>planning a XC Country ski tour in protest of President Bush's overturning
>Clinton's Yellowstone snowmobile ban. The compromise that has been reached
>no one is happy with because it is a compromise, the hallmark of a good one.
>The Greater Yellowstone Coalition
>(<http://www.greateryellowstone.org>http://www.greateryellowstone.org)
>is
>promoting this on their massive e-mail list and widely read website and may
>get massive support by their eco-idiots.
>
>Yellowstone belongs to the people of the United States and should be visited
>by them and today snowmobile is the most efficient what to do so. Roughly
>20,000 annual snow-coach, XC ski visitors want to dictate to the annual
>230,000 snowmobile visitors that they can't visit Old Faithful. They are
>using junk science and lies to push this agenda and they must be stopped
>
>We need to get all snowmobile, ATV, NRA, SUV, jeep, hunting outfitter, 4 H,
>farming, heli-ski, ranching, rafting, fishing, and logging etc. groups to
>peacefully join their XC ski, snowshoe outing and present the real message
>with placards, T-shirt, bumper stickers, megaphones etc. There are a lot
>more of us than there are of them and we better show America in a positive
>way.
>
>For those that don't want to put on XC skies and snowshoes it will probably
>be walking distance to the press conference that I anticipate to be at the
>entrance station of the park on a packed snow road. I assume that the press
>corp will stay in West Yellowstone prior to and possibly after so a message
>that you would like to parade around town may be heard.
>
>I would leave your sn
>
>All multi-users of our forests need to ban together in solidarity with
>Yellowstone snowmobile users because these same people of the Eco-tally-ban
>groups are after us all.
>
>For Lodging info see
><http://www.westyellowstonenet.com>http://www.westyellowstonenet.com
>or call if they sell
>out this site has links to surrounding communities at the top of their site.
>
>Sign Ideas
>
>Stop the Eco-tally-ban
>Junk science hurts not snowmobiles
>Save West Yellowstone snowmobile now
>Yellowstone isn't just for XC skiers
>Junk Science stinks more than snowmobiles
>Odious lies are the reason for the masks
>Canadian Lynx hoax now this
>
>I hope to have some downloadable signs at
><http://www.free-press.biz>http://www.free-press.biz
>
>Daryl L. Hunter
--
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Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
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75600 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:20am
Subject: Paint/bedliner adhesion question
Can anyone advise me what would be the best way to make the headlight trim
rings on a TJ Black.... It's the last chrome on the jeep and I want to get
rid of it !! The chrome, not the jeep !.... I remember someone saying
possibly spray on bedliner ?? Maybe to thick ??? If it looks like garbage,
I can just buy 2 new ones from DC... What about cutting the light output??
Any issue there ???... I'm just not sure about adhesion to the
chrome.....Bob J.
75576 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:59am
Subject: Moab
I would like to go with a group when is everybody leaving. I have reservation at the Apache Hotel and checking in on 4/16/2003
Rick Logan 92 YJ
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75577 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 6:59am
Subject: [TR] Moab - Wednesday, April 16, 2003
Hello All,
Richard Logan is leading a Moab trail run on Wednesday, April 16, 2003.
When: April/16th 2003
Where: Leaving from Gilbert AZ
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 4 days
CB Channel: 4
Leaving for Moab to do some good slick rock N
[Someone please send me some information on the trails in this area...]
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
75578 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...> <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:02am
Subject: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
LOL
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
<James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> wrote:
> > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
up
> there
> > still...not sold.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> >
> >
> > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
to
> > use
> > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
tops
> > and
> > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
affiliated
> > > with them just passing it along.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > >
> > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
as
> > a
> > > password you will need to enter the site.
> > >
> > > Please read all terms and conditions before shopping from this
> > > section, and be sure to enter VIPJAN02 when prompted during
> > > checkout.
> > >
> > > All products contained in this section are sold while quantities
> > > last.
> > > Scratch and Dent products are sold "AS IS".
> > >
> > > Use this link to access the section:
> > > http://www.4wd.com/shop4wd/sale/sdmain.asp
> > >
> > > Use this password to enter the section: VIPJAN02
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
75579 From: Scott Tate <scott@t...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:07am
Subject: Front Speaker Stud Bolt Sizes
Hello all,
I've just put new speakers in my YJ that recently had none in the front. I was going to run to Home Depot today to get some bolts that go on the small studs that hold the speakers in place. I was wondering in anyone knew the bolt size. The studs are pretty small. Or if you at least know if they are metric or not, I can kind of buy a handful of everything.
Thanks in advance.
Scott
75580 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:09am
Subject: Re: Nasty tow strap picture
What happened to the driver?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "ArizonaXJ"
<arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
> Wanna see why you should buy a good tow strap, and not one of the cheap
> ones with the metal hooks attached? Wanna see why you shouldn't hook a
> strap to a tow hitch ball?
>
> http://www.cataclysm.net/4x4/killerstrap.jpg
>
> Something to think about.
>
> Mike
> --
> What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
> we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
75581 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:13am
Subject: RE: Nasty tow strap picture
He ducked.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Beckham [mailto:jeepnut7261@h...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:10 AM
To: mgolden@c...; AZVJC; ArizonaXJ
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
What happened to the driver?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "ArizonaXJ"
<arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nasty tow strap picture
> Wanna see why you should buy a good tow strap, and not one of the
> cheap ones with the metal hooks attached? Wanna see why you shouldn't
> hook a strap to a tow hitch ball?
>
> http://www.cataclysm.net/4x4/killerstrap.jpg
>
> Something to think about.
>
> Mike
> --
> What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
> simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
> we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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75582 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:14am
Subject: RE: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
OOOOoooo
Are you going to take that Scott? You could probably just use Mike's
Jeep as an RTI ramp to shut him up! LOL
:) too much fun
Joey K
Itty bitty 93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
[mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
LOL
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
<James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> wrote:
> > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
up
> there
> > still...not sold.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> >
> >
> > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
to
> > use
> > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
tops
> > and
> > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
affiliated
> > > with them just passing it along.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > >
> > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
as
> > a
> > > password you will need to enter the site.
> > >
> > > Please read all terms and conditions before shopping from this
> > > section, and be sure to enter VIPJAN02 when prompted during
> > > checkout.
> > >
> > > All products contained in this section are sold while quantities
> > > last. Scratch and Dent products are sold "AS IS".
> > >
> > > Use this link to access the section:
> > > http://www.4wd.com/shop4wd/sale/sdmain.asp
> > >
> > > Use this password to enter the section: VIPJAN02
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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75583 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:17am
Subject: [FS] Alternator, A/C Compressor
Price: 100.00 ea
Contact: Mark
they are off a 99tj don't need do you
Mark Shillington
75584 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:19am
Subject: Re: Problem with Front Axles
Joey's reply is excellent. I'd add a couple points. First, you can
detect a leak in the vacuum lines using a piece of rubber tubing.
With the Jeep running, t-case and 4WD and tranny in neutral, hold one
end of the tubing to your ear and use the other end to trace along the
vacuum lines listening for a 'hissing' sound. You'll have to listen
closely since the running motor make a lot of noise and because much
of the vacuum lines are enclosed in the black corrugated plasting
tubing for protection. You'll want the tubing to be a couple feet
long and you'll want to trace from the axle to the t-case and then
back to the motor.
Second, new vacuum harnesses cost only about $33 from a dealer.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Craig,
> Why do you say the front axle is not locking in? Is there a locker in
> the differential?
>
> I am going to assume that you have an open front axel. Here are a couple
> of tests you perform. First start the Jeep, apply the emergency break
> and put the transmission in neutral. Also put the transfer case in 4WD.
> Now on the passenger side of the axel there is a couple of vacuum line
> connecting to the axel disconnect. Pull them off the disconnect and see
> if there is suction on one of the lines. If so take the transfer case
> out of 4WD putting it in 2WD and check the vacuum lines again. Now the
> other line should have suction.
> If you do not have suction on either of the lines the things to check
> would be to make sure the other end is connected at the transfer case
> and the condition of the lines. You want to look for cracks, kinks,
> breaks or even pinches in the line.
> If the lines are good the next test would be to verify the engagement
> ring and fork are working. You need to put the front axel on jack stands
> with the tires off the ground (or a large floor jack in the middle of
> the axel will work). Turn on the engine, to create a vacuum, put the
> transmission in neutral and transfer case in 4WD. Now try to turn the
> passenger side tire. One of two things should happen. Either it won't
> turn because the drive shafts are locked together and the rear wheels
> are preventing it from turning. OR it will turn and the drivers side
> wheel turns in the opposite direction. If you do have a locker the wheel
> will turn in the same direction.
> If this does not happen you will have to place a pan under the
> disconnect to catch the gear oil while you remove the cover. Check the
> inner workings for any thing broken (the fork) or maybe gunk build up on
> the axel splines keeping the sleeve from moving. You will also be able
> to check the functionality if a friend can move the transfer case in and
> out of 4WD.
>
> Or something like that.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Craig Whittington [mailto:cwhittington@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:10 PM
> > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Problem with Front Axles
> >
> >
> > i have a 1990 YJ and my front axles are not locking in, the
> > transfer case
> > is working properly and the drive shaft is turning but i have no idea
> > what to look for and why the axles are not locking in, if
> > anyone has a
> > clue what i can check out please let me know.
> >
> > thanks
> > Craig Whittington
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
75585 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:20am
Subject: [FS] 4.2 Liter Motor
Price: 600.00 obo
Contact: mark
4.2 Liter out of my 90Yj Complete with all hardware compressor/condenser/p/s pump/etc
Mark Shillington
75586 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:22am
Subject: Re: Problem with front axles
More good info from Tom. I'll add that you should also pay attention
to where the vacuum lines run under the battery tray because dripped
battery acid also takes its toll on the vacuum lines.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...> wrote:
> Pretty good description for trouble shooting, Joey!
>
> Craig, if you're not getting vacuum at the actuator, be sure to trace the vac lines to actuator all the way back up to their source (ie. manifold vacuum). Pay particular attention to where the vac lines run close to heat sources. Seems Jeep, and some mechanics, like to run lines under the air cleaner assy and in turn, quite close to the engine. The little "T" fittings that form junctions in the vacuum line routing can easily melt shut. Hopefully, this turns out to be your problem, as it's extremely cheap and easy to fix. Some new line and fittings at Autozone will be less than $5. Be sure to run the new line thru a cooler spot, though! Even if you need a whole new vacuum harness (the colored hard plastic lines), they are still relatively cheap to get...about $35 - $45 from dealer, I believe.
>
> Bottom line is you've got some cheap, easy things to check out (and that are know to fail/deteriorate) before planning on doing an axle shaft swap.
>
> Best of luck,
> Tom J.
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 22:38:03 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Problem with Front Axles
>
> Craig,
> Why do you say the front axle is not locking in? Is there a locker in
> the differential?
>
> I am going to assume that you have an open front axel. Here are a couple
> of tests you perform. First start the Jeep, apply the emergency break
> and put the transmission in neutral. Also put the transfer case in 4WD.
> Now on the passenger side of the axel there is a couple of vacuum line
> connecting to the axel disconnect. Pull them off the disconnect and see
> if there is suction on one of the lines. If so take the transfer case
> out of 4WD putting it in 2WD and check the vacuum lines again. Now the
> other line should have suction.
> If you do not have suction on either of the lines the things to check
> would be to make sure the other end is connected at the transfer case
> and the condition of the lines. You want to look for cracks, kinks,
> breaks or even pinches in the line.
> If the lines are good the next test would be to verify the engagement
> ring and fork are working. You need to put the front axel on jack stands
> with the tires off the ground (or a large floor jack in the middle of
> the axel will work). Turn on the engine, to create a vacuum, put the
> transmission in neutral and transfer case in 4WD. Now try to turn the
> passenger side tire. One of two things should happen. Either it won't
> turn because the drive shafts are locked together and the rear wheels
> are preventing it from turning. OR it will turn and the drivers side
> wheel turns in the opposite direction. If you do have a locker the wheel
> will turn in the same direction.
> If this does not happen you will have to place a pan under the
> disconnect to catch the gear oil while you remove the cover. Check the
> inner workings for any thing broken (the fork) or maybe gunk build up on
> the axel splines keeping the sleeve from moving. You will also be able
> to check the functionality if a friend can move the transfer case in and
> out of 4WD.
>
> Or something like that.
>
> Joey K
75587 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:32am
Subject: RE: Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
I see how you are Joey, cc his name on the e-mail.....
Just wait till you brake another pin and need it replaced while you are on
the east side of town....:)
Mike
--- DesertJeep <Joey@D...> wrote:
> OOOOoooo
>
> Are you going to take that Scott? You could probably just use Mike's
> Jeep as an RTI ramp to shut him up! LOL
>
> :) too much fun
> Joey K
> Itty bitty 93YJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> [mailto:jeepin_in_az@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:03 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
>
>
> Posers that want to look like they wheel, kinda like Scott K.
>
> LOL
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle <James.Towle@a...>"
> <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > If it's scratched or dented, who wants it? LOL
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > There is a brand new disc brake Currie Dand 44 rear end for a YJ
> up
> > there
> > > still...not sold.
> > >
> > > --Steve
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > > [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:08 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Scratch and Dent Sale
> > >
> > >
> > > Damn near everything on there is already sold! LOL -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Phil Thompson <ablockalypse@y...>"
> > > <ablockalypse@y...> wrote:
> > > > Got this in my email, thought some folks on here might be able
> to
> > > use
> > > > some of this stuff. The have some really good prices on soft
> tops
> > > and
> > > > accessories, espcially tinted windows for TJ's. I'm not
> affiliated
> > > > with them just passing it along.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Welcome to the 4Wheel Drive Hardware VIP Scratch & Dent Savings!
> > > >
> > > > Enclosed you will find the link to our special section, as well
> as
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> > > >
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> > > >
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75588 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Re: [FS] NEEDED in Tucson - A Welder
You may wish to give Scott Sides at ProFab Welding a call. He's well respected.
3663 E 44th Street
722-8573
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] NEEDED in Tucson - A Welder
Price:
Contact: Norm - 520-240-4260
I need some welding on a C J (structure cracks) at a FAIR price...... Thanks
Norm Le Blanc
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75589 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:43am
Subject: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
75590 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:35am
Subject: Mr. ENB (John) or anyone with access to parts books
Since there has been some talk about F&R discs and the proportioning valves
I was wondering if someone could look at the parts books for a Rubicon
proportioning valve (the Rubicons have F&R discs for those that don't know).
Is this valve different from other TJ's?
Is it possible to get one of these valves?
What would it cost, with the club discount, for on of these? lol
Any other information...
TIA
--James
75591 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:49am
Subject: Fwd: [Landuse] Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan; Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
The notice contains a statement: "Within the NRA there is a 320-mile
public trail network made up of trails and dirt service roads."
As this is notice to prepare an EIS for the trail management and
there are defined "dirt service roads", if you have an interest in
the area, please consider submitting comments to support motorized
access to the "existing dirt service roads" as a viable recreation
opportunity.
http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/14mar20010800/edocket.access.gpo.gov/2003/03-1003.htm
[Federal Register: January 16, 2003 (Volume 68, Number 11)]
[Notices]
[Page 2356-2357]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access
[wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr16ja03-105]
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DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
National Park Service
Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan; Santa Monica Mountains
National Recreation Area Los Angeles
and Ventura Counties, CA; Notice of Intent To Prepare an
Environmental Impact Statement
Summary: In accord with Sec. 102(2)(c) of the National
Environmental Policy Act of 1969 (Pub. L. 91-190), the National Park
Service is initiating the conservation planning and environmental
impact analysis process for an interagency regional trail management
plan (TMP) for the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area.
The TMP will serve as a ``blueprint'' establishing the overall
direction of future development and management of the trail network
over the next ten to fifteen years. Based on desired conditions to be
identified for park natural, cultural and recreational resources, the
TMP will prescribe policies to streamline interagency management of
the trail network throughout the national recreation area, and will
also include a trail policy map depicting the planned trail network.
The TMP could potentially result in a program modifying current trail
policies, recreational use patterns, and future trail openings and
closures.
The National Park Service has invited the California Department
of Parks and Recreation and the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy
(SMMC) to be cooperators in the preparation of the TMP. Following
publication of this notice to prepare an Environmental Impact
Statement (EIS), the state of California will issue a notice of
preparation initiating a complementary Environmental Impact Report
(EIR). The official responsible for the EIR will be Ruth Coleman,
Acting Director, California Department of Parks and Recreation (CDPR).
Background: The Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
(NRA) encompasses 150,050 acres, with approximately 71,300 acres of
public parkland and the rest in private or other government
ownership. Within the NRA there is a 320-mile public trail network
made up of trails and dirt service roads. The greater Santa Monica
Mountains trail network adjacent to the NRA features over 80
additional miles of public trails, several of which are linked to the
NRA network. Public lands and trails in the NRA are managed by
federal, state and local agencies with varying management policies.
Additionally, much of the trail network consists of utility and old
ranch roads that were inherited with the land and are not necessarily
constructed to public trail management standards. After almost 25
years of continuous land acquisition, the public trail network has
grown significantly, and several trails now cross-parkland
jurisdictional boundaries. There is the need to formulate an
interagency regional trail plan to compile trail management policies
to facilitate a seamless recreational experience for trail users and
to prepare a vision for the final trail network and future
development of trail-related facilities, ranging from trail network
signs to backcountry trail camps.
Alternatives: In cooperating to prepare a regional trails plan,
the NPS, CDPR and SMMC will jointly identify and analyze several
alternative trail network designs, consistent with agency policies.
At this time, it is anticipated that alternatives to be compared and
analyzed will include ``No Action'' (maintaining existing conditions
and management), a ``Preferred'' alternative, and several other
options for contrasting recreational use patterns. The TMP EIS/EIR
will evaluate the potential environmental impacts of the
alternatives, and identify suitable mitigation strategies. An
``environmentally preferred'' alternative will be identified, and any
potential impairments to national park values will also be disclosed.
The alternatives will be based on input from the community, an
environmental constraints analysis using current environmental
condition information, trail network maintenance costs, and several
visitor recreational use surveys conducted in the national recreation
area.
Issues: The draft TMP EIS/EIR will address environmental and
social impacts associated with the national recreation area's trail
network. Environmental issues will include, but not be limited to,
trail and/or trailhead adjacency to sensitive plant and animal
species' habitats; adjacency to cultural and archaeological resource
sites; trail erosion and impacts on water resources; soils and
geology impacts from trail presence and new trail construction; back
country camp impacts including fire hazard potential. Social impacts
will include, but not be limited to, allowable uses and user
conflicts on trails; trail network public access; trail network
compliance with Americans with Disabilities Act requirements;
proposed trail and trailhead construction; trail network management
and operation guidelines; and trail network signs.
Public Involvement: The NPS will conduct a conservation planning
and environmental impact analysis for the proposed interagency
regional TMP. Written comments that identify concerns and issues,
provide essential environmental information, and suggest reasonable
design alternatives are desired in initiating the TMP EIS/EIR
process. All respondents will later have an opportunity to review the
draft TMP EIS/ EIR and submit additional comments. Public scoping
for a interagency trail plan began with the Santa Monica Mountains
Area Recreational Trails (SMMART) project that culminated in the 1997
SMMART Report. The SMMART Report is available for review at
http://www.nps.gov/samo/trails. The SMMART Report contains the
public's recommendations regarding missing links in the trail
network, back country camps along the regional Backbone Trail, trail
network sign guidelines, multiple use trail guidelines, and trail
system design. The report also identified priority coordination
issues, including interagency cooperation, volunteer commitment, and
multi- agency trail crew and equipment sharing. In addition, all
information on trail-related issues previously received during public
comment regarding the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area
General Management Plan/EIS will also be considered in preparing the
draft TMP EIS/EIR.
Any new issues or concerns, or information relevant to TMP process,
are requested at this time. All such written comments must be
postmarked or transmitted not later than 45 days following the
publication of this Notice in the Federal Register. As soon as this
date has been determined, it will be posted on the project Web site
and included in direct mailings. Comments should be addressed to the
Superintendent, Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area,
Attn: Interagency Regional Trail Management Plan, 401 W. Hillcrest
Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91360. Comments may be faxed to (805)
370-1850, or e- mailed to SMMNRATrails@n....
If individuals submitting comments request that their name or/and
address be withheld from public disclosure, it will be honored to the
extent allowable by law. Such requests must be stated prominently in
the beginning of the comments. There also may be circumstances
wherein the NPS will withhold a respondent's identity as allowable by
law. As always: NPS will make available to public inspection all
submissions from organizations or businesses and from persons
identifying themselves as representatives or officials of
organizations and businesses; and, anonymous comments may not be
considered.
Future Information: Updated information about this conservation
planning and environmental impact analysis process will be
distributed via mailings, regional and local news media, and the
park's webpage (http://www.nps.gov/samo/trails). Responses to this
Notice will be used to update the mailing list of people interested
in receiving future information as the environmental documents are
developed. Please notify the National Park Service by mail, e-mail,
or fax at the appropriate number to request placement on the mailing
list. For all types of requests please be sure to include your
mailing address.
Decision Process: Availability of the draft TMP EIS/EIR for
review and written comment will be officially announced by Notice of
Availability in the Federal Register, as well as through local and
regional news media, the above listed Web site, and direct mailing.
At this time the draft TMP EIS/EIR is anticipated to be distributed
in fall, 2003. After due consideration of all comments on the draft
TMP EIS/EIR, a final TMP EIS/EIR would be prepared which at this
time is anticipated could be completed by July, 2004. As a delegated
EIS, the
official responsible for the final decision is the Regional Director,
Pacific West Region; subsequently the official responsible for
implementation would be the Superintendent, Santa Monica Mountains
National Recreation Area.
Dated: December 2, 2002.
Holly Bundock,
Acting Regional Director, Pacific West Region.
[FR Doc. 03-1003 Filed 1-15-03; 8:45 am]
BILLING CODE 4310-70-P
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
75592 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:51am
Subject: Fwd: Important Red Rock Canyon Meeting (Ridgecrest, CA)
If you are near, please consider attending this meeting.
>
>
> The California Department of Parks & Recreation will hold a public
>meeting in Ridgecrest to present management alternatives for the Last
>Chance Canyon Additions to Red Rock Canyon National Park. The addition,
>which requires a general plan amendment, involves 20,500 acres of land that
>was transferred from Bureau of Land Management jurisdiction to the state
>park system by the so-called California Desert Protection Act.
> According to a flyer from the California Department of Parks and
>Recreation, "We want your input related to these alternatives for the Last
>Chance Canyon addition lands and their incorporation into Red Rock Canyon
>State Park." The General Plan Team will be present to discuss the
>alternatives and listen to opinions about the park's future.
> This area has traditionally provided many diverse recreational
>opportunities and economic benefits such as horseback riding, gem and
>mineral collecting, OHV use, prospecting and mining, upland game hunting,
>and commercial filming and photography. The area also includes wildlife
>guzzlers that have been maintained by local sportsmen for over 50 years.
> The meeting will be held 1:00 - 3:30 p.m. on Saturday, January 18,
>2003 in the Ridgecrest City Council Chamber at 100 West California Ave.,
>Ridgecrest, California.
>
> More information if available on the California Department of Parks
>and Recreation website including; a summary of verbal and written comments
>taken at the previous meeting in Lancaster, meeting notices, CEQA
>documents, and maps of the area under consideration (see base map for
>general area). The website is located at:
>http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=22367
>
>
>
>
>This information is provided by Ron Schiller, Chairman, High Desert
>Multiple Use Coalition. As usual, please feel free to pass this
>information on to any other interested parties. Anyone wishing to receive
>future information regarding issues related to the management of public
>lands in the California Desert should send an e-mail to
>schiller@r... and request to be placed on the distribution
>list. Please print "PLEASE ADD TO LIST" in the subject line.
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
75593 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:54am
Subject: [FS] TOW STRAPS FOR SALE
Price: $40.00
Contact: 480-948-3638
THESE ARE ACTUALLY WOVEN TOW RIGS, NOT FLAT WEBBING. the one for $40 is rated to 19,000 lbs. and is 3/4 dia 12 feet long. they are available up to 2 inch dia. rated to 131,000 lbs. contact steve at 480-948-3638
75594 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:02am
Subject: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
75595 From: robert_j_rogers2 <robert.rogers@h...> <robert.rogers@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:04am
Subject: Re: Torx bits...
Mine are from Sears, and they are good. If you can reach me I live at
101 and 7th Ave. and work at 59th Ave and Bell. (Short ride to work!)
If you need one to accept the Dimple I could mill it for you If you
give me the torx and let me know the dimple size.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Danny <dannpegg@c...>"
<dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know where to get a GOOD set of Torx bits? I keep making the
> mistake of buying the ones from Autozone and they just twist in the
> heads of the bolts...Pieces of...Well, you know. I also need to
find
> the kind with the dowel hole in the middle. My TJ has a loose upper
> crossbar in the stock rollbar and the Torx head bolt has a nipple
in
> the middle of it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> AZ_Treadhead
> LHC, AZ
75596 From: Scott Tate <scott@t...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:04am
Subject: RE: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Impossible. I've been looking at junkyards for two years for my YJ.
Still nothing. :(
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
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75597 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 7:45am
Subject: RE: Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
AMC 4x4 623-937-5899
800-882-5337
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...> [mailto:James.Towle@a...]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: anybody know Pleaseeeeee
Richard,
Try the All AMC 4x4. It is quite a drive from this side of town and
the prices might be a tad high, but I bet they will have it.
I don't have their number off hand, I am sure someone does.
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> does anybody know since I am new to area where I might look for a
tilt steering wheel for my 92 YJ
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75598 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...> <off-road@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:11am
Subject: Re: ZJ lift kit advice?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Bill LaBrie" <mrbuttz@h...> wrote:
> I would not presume to call it "wisdom", but I hope this
helps:
In my opinion it comes down to what you want to do with your rig, if
you are staying on easier trails (3.0, maybe 3.5-) then you don't
need to do much to your rig. I installed a 2" budget boost and
30x9.5x15 MTRs, so far so good.
From my perspective, the up side of keeping it simple is that it
drives pretty much the same, you can "stock it" in no time,
you are not out an arm and a leg, etc. Downside, you get great
pictures of other peoples rigs doing things your rig can't do.
Another option I've heard/read about is buying a set of 3"
front springs and moving your front springs to the back, you are
supposed to get about 2-3 inches out of it, now depending on how
stiff of a spring you buy, you might end up with a different ride
quality, which might be a good thing or not, again it's down to
your
likes and dislikes.
Good luck
Jose
75599 From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:21am
Subject: Fwd: Fw: snowmobile protest
The Yellowstone Snowmobile fight is still a very hot topic.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Daryl Hunter [mailto:thedaryl@e...]
>Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 7:19 AM
>To: DJ Bartholomew
>Subject: snowmobile protest
>
>
>Dorothy Please circulate
>thanks
>Daryl
>
>The Eco-Tally-ban
>(<http://www.free-press.biz/eco-tally-ban.htm>http://www.free-press.biz/eco-tally-ban.htm)
>is gathering
>in West Yellowstone on President's day weekend for what appears to be an
>annual press junket where they show up to tell their lies to an invited
>press corp. The Eco-tally-ban is hell bent on ruining West Yellowstone's $85
>millon snowmobile industry, it would put most of the town out of business as
>it is touted as the snowmobile capitol of the world.
>
>President's day weekend is the only time that you can almost count on a
>smoggy West Yellowstone entrance station at 9 am as that is the busiest hour
>of the year. The Eco-tally-ban has been using that weekend for their junk
>science and propaganda since 1995 when I saw 3 rangers holding a smog meter
>at old faithful at the time the mid-day crowd was leaving Old Faithful.
>
>These Presidents day weekend propaganda outings have all of the intellectual
>integrity of a Los Angeles smog study when Malibu is on fire. The
>Eco-tally-ban presents these conditions as daily fact and the press corp
>spoon-feeds this crap to a gullible American public, bogus gas masks and
>all.
>
>The Winter Wildlands Alliance
>(<http://www.winterwildlands.org>http://www.winterwildlands.org)
>group is
>planning a XC Country ski tour in protest of President Bush's overturning
>Clinton's Yellowstone snowmobile ban. The compromise that has been reached
>no one is happy with because it is a compromise, the hallmark of a good one.
>The Greater Yellowstone Coalition
>(<http://www.greateryellowstone.org>http://www.greateryellowstone.org)
>is
>promoting this on their massive e-mail list and widely read website and may
>get massive support by their eco-idiots.
>
>Yellowstone belongs to the people of the United States and should be visited
>by them and today snowmobile is the most efficient what to do so. Roughly
>20,000 annual snow-coach, XC ski visitors want to dictate to the annual
>230,000 snowmobile visitors that they can't visit Old Faithful. They are
>using junk science and lies to push this agenda and they must be stopped
>
>We need to get all snowmobile, ATV, NRA, SUV, jeep, hunting outfitter, 4 H,
>farming, heli-ski, ranching, rafting, fishing, and logging etc. groups to
>peacefully join their XC ski, snowshoe outing and present the real message
>with placards, T-shirt, bumper stickers, megaphones etc. There are a lot
>more of us than there are of them and we better show America in a positive
>way.
>
>For those that don't want to put on XC skies and snowshoes it will probably
>be walking distance to the press conference that I anticipate to be at the
>entrance station of the park on a packed snow road. I assume that the press
>corp will stay in West Yellowstone prior to and possibly after so a message
>that you would like to parade around town may be heard.
>
>I would leave your sn
>
>All multi-users of our forests need to ban together in solidarity with
>Yellowstone snowmobile users because these same people of the Eco-tally-ban
>groups are after us all.
>
>For Lodging info see
><http://www.westyellowstonenet.com>http://www.westyellowstonenet.com
>or call if they sell
>out this site has links to surrounding communities at the top of their site.
>
>Sign Ideas
>
>Stop the Eco-tally-ban
>Junk science hurts not snowmobiles
>Save West Yellowstone snowmobile now
>Yellowstone isn't just for XC skiers
>Junk Science stinks more than snowmobiles
>Odious lies are the reason for the masks
>Canadian Lynx hoax now this
>
>I hope to have some downloadable signs at
><http://www.free-press.biz>http://www.free-press.biz
>
>Daryl L. Hunter
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
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75600 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 16, 2003 8:20am
Subject: Paint/bedliner adhesion question
Can anyone advise me what would be the best way to make the headlight trim
rings on a TJ Black.... It's the last chrome on the jeep and I want to get
rid of it !! The chrome, not the jeep !.... I remember someone saying
possibly spray on bedliner ?? Maybe to thick ??? If it looks like garbage,
I can just buy 2 new ones from DC... What about cutting the light output??
Any issue there ???... I'm just not sure about adhesion to the
chrome.....Bob J.