blooddrive
01-07-2004, 09:35 PM
75450-75474
75450 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:18pm
Subject: Re: TJ cage?
If someone owns an airplane they probably don't think a lot of stuff
is pricey.... unlike us PO FOLKS! Just a general statement.... not
mentioning names or anything..... ;) LOL -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
> I guess pricey is a subjective term… I find John's rates for
repair and
> fabrication work to be some of the lowest in town. If you think
John is
> pricey… shop around a bit.
> <grin>
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Halverson [mailto:byrnec@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:53 PM
> To: John DeRuiter; az_vjc
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ cage?
>
> John,
>
> John at hunteroffroad@a... <mailto:hunteroffroad@a...> did a TJ
> cage through the dash for me that is awesome. He is pricy, but the
work is
> first class.
>
> John Halverson
> '99TJ
> '51CJ3A
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John DeRuiter <mailto:wm7a@m...>
> To: az_vjc <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:33 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ cage?
>
> I am thinking about improving the stock roll cage in my TJ by
running it to
> the floor instead of just the windshield. I am looking at the
products from
> OR-Fab or M.O.R.E. Any opinions on this? How easy is it? Is it
worth
> doing? Are there other options?
>
> John DeRuiter
> WM7A, 98 TJ
>
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75451 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:20pm
Subject: [FS] Cherokee Bumper
Price: $30
Contact: 480 860 9633
I have the stock bumper off the front of a 93 XJ Cherokee. It is black and includes the side end caps and mounting brackets. This will fit on 84- 96 Cherokee's. Good condition, no dents.
Chris Milburn
75452 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:25pm
Subject: RE: Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
I don't think we should delete anything. I'm sure Mike C can archive
this stuff to an alternate location.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; dt_horton@h...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and
Joe W?
if need be, I can transfer some old archives to my server (4x4jeep.net)
maybe Mike and Joe W can assess the situation as to how far back we need
to hold on to logs... maybe sometime in the future mike will integrate
the archives into the azvjc web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives?
> I access the list through Yahoo Groups site. It notes at the top of
> the
page AzVJC is, "Using 400.2 of 512 MB (78%)".
>
> I'm not sure who the official administrator of the group is, Mike or
> Joe
maybe?. Just thought I'd bring it up incase no one is aware or cares the
space is filling up.
>
> Dan Horton
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
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75453 From: dbkcs <dbkcs@y...> <dbkcs@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:27pm
Subject: yj gas tank
HERE IS THE ARTICLE I FOUND AFTER I HAD BEEN INFORMED ABOUT IT. IT
IS AS FOLLOWS: 4X4WIRE.COM/JEEP/TECH/FUEL/15TO20GAL/
75454 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:40pm
Subject: Re: "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
Thanks for posting!!
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
> Since AzVJC mail list is hosted by Yahoo Groups, I thought everyone
> might like to know this:
>
> Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo
> Group users around the net and see what you're doing - similar to
> cookies. Take a look at their updated privacy statement.
>
> About half-way down the page, in the section "Outside the Yahoo!
> Network", you'll see a little "click here" link that will let you
> opt-out of their new method of snooping. You may want to do this.
> Once you have clicked that link, you are opted out.
>
> http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
>
> Notice the "Success" message at the top of the next page. Be
> careful, because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt-out" button
> that, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.
>
> Sneaky little devils!
> Dan Horton
> 2kTJ
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
75455 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:41pm
Subject: re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
75456 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:37pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
I simply do not know................ from what Clint is showing it's not the top of Bad Medicine and looks more the area of Over Dose. Guess we'll just have to go out and inspect. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75457 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:51pm
Subject: RE: Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
In the past, I've tried to think of an easy way to archive the data on yahoo
groups for the azvjc, but the format is too convoluted for me to figure out
how to do it. If there is a single text or data file, it would be easy...
but the only data I can find is html and then... you can only view small
portions of the archive in a single page... it would take an absolute
eternity to archive all that html by hand.
Mikes the expert... if it can be done; he will know how to do it. The nice
thing about a REAL archive is that it would be simple to convert it to a
searchable text file and then members could check the archive first when
looking for answers.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; dt_horton@h...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
if need be, I can transfer some old archives to my server (4x4jeep.net)
maybe Mike and Joe W can assess the situation as to how far back we need to
hold on to logs... maybe sometime in the future mike will integrate the
archives into the azvjc web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives?
> I access the list through Yahoo Groups site. It notes at the top of the
page AzVJC is, "Using 400.2 of 512 MB (78%)".
>
> I'm not sure who the official administrator of the group is, Mike or Joe
maybe?. Just thought I'd bring it up incase no one is aware or cares the
space is filling up.
>
> Dan Horton
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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75458 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:56pm
Subject: RE: yj gas tank
How about that. Jeff is a good guy... and that looks to be correct. Very
interesting.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: dbkcs <dbkcs@y...> [mailto:dbkcs@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yj gas tank
HERE IS THE ARTICLE I FOUND AFTER I HAD BEEN INFORMED ABOUT IT. IT
IS AS FOLLOWS: 4X4WIRE.COM/JEEP/TECH/FUEL/15TO20GAL/
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75459 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75460 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:58pm
Subject: RE: Opinions needed.
Think anyone else will get it?
<grin>
I just flipped open the book and here's where it opened:
"The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and
tragedy.... What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master
calls a butterfly"
By the way... I printed, and carry with me always; "Messiah's Handbook,
Reminders for the Advanced Soul"
Want me to print you a copy?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Nasser [mailto:nasser88@c...]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:10 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
Hi Joe, It was great talking to you the other evening. Thanks for the
stickers; they look real sharp on the XJ.
By the way how about this for a URL:
http://theadventuresofareluctantroundheadlightjeep.net ;)
Nasser
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:33 PM
To: 'Stu Olson'; 'Azvjc (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
ROTFL!
Aluminum...for Jeeps who only crawl on other jeeps.
<grin>
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:23 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; 'Azvjc (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
www.joealuminum:justsaynowaytobreakingonthehighway west.org
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:07 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
thebestofwest.org lol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
> Hi Gang,
>
> I am running into limitations for having Cox host my web page... so I
have
> purchased a few URLs and want some opinions on which one I should use
to
> host my Jeep webpage... here are the choices:
>
> http://www.flatfendertj.com
>
> http://www.jeepwrangler.org
>
> http://www.joewest.org
>
>
> I took the joewest.org one just because I thought it would be neat to
put
> personal stuff on (get yer minds out of the gutter...) <grin>
>
> So... what's the consensus? Thoughts?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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>
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75461 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75462 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Rock Crusher?
Go to www.badazbumpers.com and check out Glenns bumpers.I think he gets
around $300 to $350 INCLUDING the carrier and they are unbelievably strong
(his demo is a 300lb guy on the swing out part including the tire, bouncing
up and down on the carrier/bumper and it doesnt even budge). Tell him the
BadAzXJ sent you and he may cut you a deal....
Its worth checking out.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
>From: "LaughingBoy3 <laughingboy3@y...>" <laughingboy3@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Rock Crusher?
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:04:18 -0000
>
>
> Does anyone have the Rock Crusher rear bumber with spare tire
>mount on there Jeep? I was thinking about getting one for mine,
>just wanted some information first. So you know, the Warn one won't
>really match my front bumber that I want to keep. I just want to
>know if the Rock Crusher brand is tough enough for off road. I
>don't want to buy something that's going to fall apart. Thanks.
> Jay Matthews 92YJ
>
>
>
>
>
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75463 From: enb4w <enb4w@e...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:10pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75464 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:07pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75465 From: Martin Ward <martinida@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:24pm
Subject: Re: re. intentional trail blockage
If my front ARB is up and running I would like to run with you all.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: enb4w ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75466 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:15pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
I'll post Saturday or Sunday as soon as I get a confirmation from those going. Probably meet at the Texaco around 8:30 a.m. Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Ward [mailto:martinida@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:24 PM
To: enb4w; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Sandee McCullen
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
If my front ARB is up and running I would like to run with you all.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: enb4w ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75467 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:27pm
Subject: Re: "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
Thanks for the info!
>From: "dthorton_2000 <dt_horton@h...>" <dt_horton@h...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:45:14 -0000
>
>Since AzVJC mail list is hosted by Yahoo Groups, I thought everyone
>might like to know this:
>
>Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo
>Group users around the net and see what you're doing - similar to
>cookies. Take a look at their updated privacy statement.
>
>About half-way down the page, in the section "Outside the Yahoo!
>Network", you'll see a little "click here" link that will let you
>opt-out of their new method of snooping. You may want to do this.
>Once you have clicked that link, you are opted out.
>
>http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
>
> Notice the "Success" message at the top of the next page. Be
>careful, because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt-out" button
>that, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.
>
>Sneaky little devils!
>Dan Horton
>2kTJ
>
>
>
>
>
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75468 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:30pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
John,
Ever see the Monte Python movie Search for the Holy Grail ?
For your reading pleasure& for some reason; this feels like an appropriate time for it&
A small excerpt from a scene early in the movie&
Joe West
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!
[bonk]
A witch! A witch!
MONKS: [chanting]
Pie Iesu domine...
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGER #1:
She has got a wart.
RANDOM:
[cough]
BEDEVERE:
What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
VILLAGER #2:
Do they hurt?
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
VILLAGER #3:
Shh!
VILLAGER #2:
Wood!
BEDEVERE:
So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3:
B--... 'cause they're made of... wood?
BEDEVERE:
Good! Heh heh.
CROWD:
Oh, yeah. Oh.
BEDEVERE:
So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1:
Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE:
Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #1:
Oh, yeah.
RANDOM:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
BEDEVERE:
Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No, it floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1:
Throw her into the pond!
CROWD:
The pond! Throw her into the pond!
BEDEVERE:
What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1:
Bread!
VILLAGER #2:
Apples!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1:
Cider!
VILLAGER #2:
Uh, gra-- gravy!
VILLAGER #1:
Cherries!
VILLAGER #2:
Mud!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, churches! Churches!
VILLAGER #2:
Lead! Lead!
ARTHUR:
A duck!
CROWD:
Oooh.
BEDEVERE:
Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1:
If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE:
And therefore?
VILLAGER #2:
A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
A witch!
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!...
VILLAGER #4:
Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE:
Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
CROWD:
Ohh! Ohh! Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Ahh! Ahh...
BEDEVERE:
Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
[creak]
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch!
WITCH:
It's a fair cop.
VILLAGER #3:
Burn her!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR:
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEVERE:
My liege!
ARTHUR:
Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Camelot and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEVERE:
My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR:
What is your name?
BEDEVERE:
'Bedevere', my liege.
ARTHUR:
Then I dub you 'Sir Bedemere, Knight of the Round Table'.
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75469 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:34pm
Subject: Need ideas for power distribution panel
Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power from the battery.
I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be appreciated
I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
TIA,
-Mike
75470 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery.... If you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about it and do it next :)
Nick Gasmena
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power from the battery.
I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be appreciated
I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
TIA,
-Mike
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75471 From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:15pm
Subject: RE: yj gas tank
Well Indeed all the information out there says that Chrysler only made one size tank for the Yj's, the 20 gallon one. However I beg to differ with that. I too was in the mind set of converting my tank to hold the 20 gallons. When i went through the whole process of pulling the tube out that is supposed to be something like 9 1/2 inches long. Mine was only 3 inches, so needless to say I can still only get 15 gallons in my tank. I know this because the day after I pulled the 3 inches of tubing I ran the jeep til I ran out of gas. When I filled it up only 15 gallons would fit. So I was disappointed. Now I do know that my yj actually has a 96 engine in it from the VIN thats what teh dealer told me, so I am not sure if all 95's are the same or not. Its worth the try or if you can crawl underneath your rig and there is a barcode sticker on teh drivers side of the tank and post the numbers on it I can compare it to mine and see if they match or something. Just FYI..
Smitty
Steve Meyer wrote:
That sounds really freaking weird. There are two different sized tanks.
Don't know anything about this cutting the tube shorter stuff. You sure
about this?
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: dbkcs [mailto:dbkcs@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yj gas tank
I AM LOOKING FOR HELP TO CONVERT MY 95 YJ TANK FROM A 15 GALLON TO
A 20 GALLON. I NEED TO DO THIS SATURDAY THE 18TH IN THE AFTERNOON.
I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON HknowO CONVERT THE TANK. THE INFO SHOWS
THE TANK IS ACTUALLY A 20 GALLON BUT DUE TO A FILL TUBE IT ONLY A 15
GALLON. I NEED TO PULL THE FILL TUBE OUT AND CUT IT TO ABOUT 2.5
INCHES, THUS MAKING IT A 20 GALLON TANK. ANYWAY IF YOU CAN HELP ME
CALL ME AFTER 6:30 P.M. THIS WEEK AT 623 849 5800 AND ASK STEVE. IF
I'M NOT HOME LEAVE ME A NUMBER AND I'LL GET IN TOUCH WHEN I GET
HOME. OR E-MAIL ME AT DBKCS@YAHOO.COM.
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75472 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:15pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
I agree with Nick... go to a car audio store, just dont go to Audio
Express! They do not give you your money back if you get the wrong
part (I used cash to buy it)! I didn't even open the box, and
returned it the same day and all they would give me is store credit.
I bought a battery terminal with multiple outputs, but I bought the
Negative clamp, not the Positive. Instead of drive all the way back
to Audio Express I got the correct one at a closer store to get the
job done... so I didnt need it anymore. Needless to say I should
have looked at the box closer before I left the store, but now I
have a $15 credit there that I will probably never use. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was
there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I
think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio
express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery.... If
you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to
do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about
it and do it next :)
>
> Nick Gasmena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike
> To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
>
>
> Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added
a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power
from the battery.
>
> I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be
live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my
aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb
compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any
leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be
appreciated
>
> I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have
is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
>
> TIA,
>
> -Mike
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
75473 From: Brandon <jeepinaz@c...> <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:20pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
I am using a 4 fuse car stereo fuse block. It takes the large
fuses, don't know if you need more than that. It was the first
thing I thought of using.
http://members.cox.net/jeepinaz/fuse
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
<g_rob_williams@y...> wrote:
> I agree with Nick... go to a car audio store, just dont go to
Audio
> Express! They do not give you your money back if you get the wrong
> part (I used cash to buy it)! I didn't even open the box, and
> returned it the same day and all they would give me is store
credit.
> I bought a battery terminal with multiple outputs, but I bought
the
> Negative clamp, not the Positive. Instead of drive all the way
back
> to Audio Express I got the correct one at a closer store to get
the
> job done... so I didnt need it anymore. Needless to say I should
> have looked at the box closer before I left the store, but now I
> have a $15 credit there that I will probably never use. -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was
> there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I
> think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio
> express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery....
If
> you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to
> do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about
> it and do it next :)
> >
> > Nick Gasmena
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike
> > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
> >
> >
> > Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has
added
> a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct
power
> from the battery.
> >
> > I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be
> live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my
> aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb
> compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any
> leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would
be
> appreciated
> >
> > I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have
> is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking
for.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
75474 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:44pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Good point. We need an objective investigation.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:31 PM
To: 'enb4w'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
John,
Ever see the Monte Python movie Search for the Holy Grail ?
For your reading pleasure& for some reason; this feels like an appropriate time for it&
A small excerpt from a scene early in the movie&
Joe West
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!
[bonk]
A witch! A witch!
MONKS: [chanting]
Pie Iesu domine...
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGER #1:
She has got a wart.
RANDOM:
[cough]
BEDEVERE:
What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
VILLAGER #2:
Do they hurt?
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
VILLAGER #3:
Shh!
VILLAGER #2:
Wood!
BEDEVERE:
So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3:
B--... 'cause they're made of... wood?
BEDEVERE:
Good! Heh heh.
CROWD:
Oh, yeah. Oh.
BEDEVERE:
So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1:
Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE:
Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #1:
Oh, yeah.
RANDOM:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
BEDEVERE:
Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No, it floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1:
Throw her into the pond!
CROWD:
The pond! Throw her into the pond!
BEDEVERE:
What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1:
Bread!
VILLAGER #2:
Apples!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1:
Cider!
VILLAGER #2:
Uh, gra-- gravy!
VILLAGER #1:
Cherries!
VILLAGER #2:
Mud!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, churches! Churches!
VILLAGER #2:
Lead! Lead!
ARTHUR:
A duck!
CROWD:
Oooh.
BEDEVERE:
Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1:
If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE:
And therefore?
VILLAGER #2:
A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
A witch!
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!...
VILLAGER #4:
Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE:
Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
CROWD:
Ohh! Ohh! Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Ahh! Ahh...
BEDEVERE:
Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
[creak]
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch!
WITCH:
It's a fair cop.
VILLAGER #3:
Burn her!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR:
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEVERE:
My liege!
ARTHUR:
Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Camelot and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEVERE:
My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR:
What is your name?
BEDEVERE:
'Bedevere', my liege.
ARTHUR:
Then I dub you 'Sir Bedemere, Knight of the Round Table'.
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75450 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:18pm
Subject: Re: TJ cage?
If someone owns an airplane they probably don't think a lot of stuff
is pricey.... unlike us PO FOLKS! Just a general statement.... not
mentioning names or anything..... ;) LOL -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
> I guess pricey is a subjective term… I find John's rates for
repair and
> fabrication work to be some of the lowest in town. If you think
John is
> pricey… shop around a bit.
> <grin>
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Halverson [mailto:byrnec@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:53 PM
> To: John DeRuiter; az_vjc
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TJ cage?
>
> John,
>
> John at hunteroffroad@a... <mailto:hunteroffroad@a...> did a TJ
> cage through the dash for me that is awesome. He is pricy, but the
work is
> first class.
>
> John Halverson
> '99TJ
> '51CJ3A
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John DeRuiter <mailto:wm7a@m...>
> To: az_vjc <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:33 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ cage?
>
> I am thinking about improving the stock roll cage in my TJ by
running it to
> the floor instead of just the windshield. I am looking at the
products from
> OR-Fab or M.O.R.E. Any opinions on this? How easy is it? Is it
worth
> doing? Are there other options?
>
> John DeRuiter
> WM7A, 98 TJ
>
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75451 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:20pm
Subject: [FS] Cherokee Bumper
Price: $30
Contact: 480 860 9633
I have the stock bumper off the front of a 93 XJ Cherokee. It is black and includes the side end caps and mounting brackets. This will fit on 84- 96 Cherokee's. Good condition, no dents.
Chris Milburn
75452 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:25pm
Subject: RE: Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
I don't think we should delete anything. I'm sure Mike C can archive
this stuff to an alternate location.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; dt_horton@h...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and
Joe W?
if need be, I can transfer some old archives to my server (4x4jeep.net)
maybe Mike and Joe W can assess the situation as to how far back we need
to hold on to logs... maybe sometime in the future mike will integrate
the archives into the azvjc web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives?
> I access the list through Yahoo Groups site. It notes at the top of
> the
page AzVJC is, "Using 400.2 of 512 MB (78%)".
>
> I'm not sure who the official administrator of the group is, Mike or
> Joe
maybe?. Just thought I'd bring it up incase no one is aware or cares the
space is filling up.
>
> Dan Horton
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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75453 From: dbkcs <dbkcs@y...> <dbkcs@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:27pm
Subject: yj gas tank
HERE IS THE ARTICLE I FOUND AFTER I HAD BEEN INFORMED ABOUT IT. IT
IS AS FOLLOWS: 4X4WIRE.COM/JEEP/TECH/FUEL/15TO20GAL/
75454 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:40pm
Subject: Re: "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
Thanks for posting!!
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
> Since AzVJC mail list is hosted by Yahoo Groups, I thought everyone
> might like to know this:
>
> Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo
> Group users around the net and see what you're doing - similar to
> cookies. Take a look at their updated privacy statement.
>
> About half-way down the page, in the section "Outside the Yahoo!
> Network", you'll see a little "click here" link that will let you
> opt-out of their new method of snooping. You may want to do this.
> Once you have clicked that link, you are opted out.
>
> http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
>
> Notice the "Success" message at the top of the next page. Be
> careful, because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt-out" button
> that, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.
>
> Sneaky little devils!
> Dan Horton
> 2kTJ
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
75455 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:41pm
Subject: re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
75456 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:37pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
I simply do not know................ from what Clint is showing it's not the top of Bad Medicine and looks more the area of Over Dose. Guess we'll just have to go out and inspect. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75457 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:51pm
Subject: RE: Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
In the past, I've tried to think of an easy way to archive the data on yahoo
groups for the azvjc, but the format is too convoluted for me to figure out
how to do it. If there is a single text or data file, it would be easy...
but the only data I can find is html and then... you can only view small
portions of the archive in a single page... it would take an absolute
eternity to archive all that html by hand.
Mikes the expert... if it can be done; he will know how to do it. The nice
thing about a REAL archive is that it would be simple to convert it to a
searchable text file and then members could check the archive first when
looking for answers.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; dt_horton@h...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives? -Mike C and Joe W?
if need be, I can transfer some old archives to my server (4x4jeep.net)
maybe Mike and Joe W can assess the situation as to how far back we need to
hold on to logs... maybe sometime in the future mike will integrate the
archives into the azvjc web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: <dt_horton@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Do we need to archive the Archives?
> I access the list through Yahoo Groups site. It notes at the top of the
page AzVJC is, "Using 400.2 of 512 MB (78%)".
>
> I'm not sure who the official administrator of the group is, Mike or Joe
maybe?. Just thought I'd bring it up incase no one is aware or cares the
space is filling up.
>
> Dan Horton
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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75458 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:56pm
Subject: RE: yj gas tank
How about that. Jeff is a good guy... and that looks to be correct. Very
interesting.
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: dbkcs <dbkcs@y...> [mailto:dbkcs@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:28 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yj gas tank
HERE IS THE ARTICLE I FOUND AFTER I HAD BEEN INFORMED ABOUT IT. IT
IS AS FOLLOWS: 4X4WIRE.COM/JEEP/TECH/FUEL/15TO20GAL/
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75459 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75460 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 8:58pm
Subject: RE: Opinions needed.
Think anyone else will get it?
<grin>
I just flipped open the book and here's where it opened:
"The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and
tragedy.... What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master
calls a butterfly"
By the way... I printed, and carry with me always; "Messiah's Handbook,
Reminders for the Advanced Soul"
Want me to print you a copy?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Nasser [mailto:nasser88@c...]
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:10 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
Hi Joe, It was great talking to you the other evening. Thanks for the
stickers; they look real sharp on the XJ.
By the way how about this for a URL:
http://theadventuresofareluctantroundheadlightjeep.net ;)
Nasser
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:33 PM
To: 'Stu Olson'; 'Azvjc (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
ROTFL!
Aluminum...for Jeeps who only crawl on other jeeps.
<grin>
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:23 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; 'Azvjc (E-mail)'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
www.joealuminum:justsaynowaytobreakingonthehighway west.org
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:07 PM
To: arizonajeep@c...; Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
thebestofwest.org lol
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Opinions needed.
> Hi Gang,
>
> I am running into limitations for having Cox host my web page... so I
have
> purchased a few URLs and want some opinions on which one I should use
to
> host my Jeep webpage... here are the choices:
>
> http://www.flatfendertj.com
>
> http://www.jeepwrangler.org
>
> http://www.joewest.org
>
>
> I took the joewest.org one just because I thought it would be neat to
put
> personal stuff on (get yer minds out of the gutter...) <grin>
>
> So... what's the consensus? Thoughts?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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75461 From: Clint Ramsey <cwramsey@t...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75462 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:05pm
Subject: Re: Rock Crusher?
Go to www.badazbumpers.com and check out Glenns bumpers.I think he gets
around $300 to $350 INCLUDING the carrier and they are unbelievably strong
(his demo is a 300lb guy on the swing out part including the tire, bouncing
up and down on the carrier/bumper and it doesnt even budge). Tell him the
BadAzXJ sent you and he may cut you a deal....
Its worth checking out.
Frank
BadAzXJ@m...
>From: "LaughingBoy3 <laughingboy3@y...>" <laughingboy3@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Rock Crusher?
>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:04:18 -0000
>
>
> Does anyone have the Rock Crusher rear bumber with spare tire
>mount on there Jeep? I was thinking about getting one for mine,
>just wanted some information first. So you know, the Warn one won't
>really match my front bumber that I want to keep. I just want to
>know if the Rock Crusher brand is tough enough for off road. I
>don't want to buy something that's going to fall apart. Thanks.
> Jay Matthews 92YJ
>
>
>
>
>
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75463 From: enb4w <enb4w@e...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:10pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75464 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:07pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75465 From: Martin Ward <martinida@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:24pm
Subject: Re: re. intentional trail blockage
If my front ARB is up and running I would like to run with you all.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: enb4w ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75466 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:15pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
I'll post Saturday or Sunday as soon as I get a confirmation from those going. Probably meet at the Texaco around 8:30 a.m. Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Ward [mailto:martinida@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:24 PM
To: enb4w; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Sandee McCullen
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
If my front ARB is up and running I would like to run with you all.
Martin
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandee McCullen
To: enb4w ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
BLM did not do this................... yes, it's possible the miner did this but this waterfall is well onto BLM lands......... not private. Jack and I will go out this weekend and take a look. Anyone interested in tagging along?
Sandee
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didn’t want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out…..
That’s my two cents…..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Don’t know couldn’t tell you. I don’t know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75467 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:27pm
Subject: Re: "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
Thanks for the info!
>From: "dthorton_2000 <dt_horton@h...>" <dt_horton@h...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo Group users
>Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 03:45:14 -0000
>
>Since AzVJC mail list is hosted by Yahoo Groups, I thought everyone
>might like to know this:
>
>Yahoo is now using something called "Web Beacons" to track Yahoo
>Group users around the net and see what you're doing - similar to
>cookies. Take a look at their updated privacy statement.
>
>About half-way down the page, in the section "Outside the Yahoo!
>Network", you'll see a little "click here" link that will let you
>opt-out of their new method of snooping. You may want to do this.
>Once you have clicked that link, you are opted out.
>
>http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us/pixels/details.html
>
> Notice the "Success" message at the top of the next page. Be
>careful, because on that page there is a "Cancel Opt-out" button
>that, if clicked, will *undo* the opt-out.
>
>Sneaky little devils!
>Dan Horton
>2kTJ
>
>
>
>
>
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75468 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:30pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
John,
Ever see the Monte Python movie Search for the Holy Grail ?
For your reading pleasure& for some reason; this feels like an appropriate time for it&
A small excerpt from a scene early in the movie&
Joe West
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!
[bonk]
A witch! A witch!
MONKS: [chanting]
Pie Iesu domine...
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGER #1:
She has got a wart.
RANDOM:
[cough]
BEDEVERE:
What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
VILLAGER #2:
Do they hurt?
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
VILLAGER #3:
Shh!
VILLAGER #2:
Wood!
BEDEVERE:
So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3:
B--... 'cause they're made of... wood?
BEDEVERE:
Good! Heh heh.
CROWD:
Oh, yeah. Oh.
BEDEVERE:
So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1:
Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE:
Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #1:
Oh, yeah.
RANDOM:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
BEDEVERE:
Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No, it floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1:
Throw her into the pond!
CROWD:
The pond! Throw her into the pond!
BEDEVERE:
What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1:
Bread!
VILLAGER #2:
Apples!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1:
Cider!
VILLAGER #2:
Uh, gra-- gravy!
VILLAGER #1:
Cherries!
VILLAGER #2:
Mud!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, churches! Churches!
VILLAGER #2:
Lead! Lead!
ARTHUR:
A duck!
CROWD:
Oooh.
BEDEVERE:
Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1:
If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE:
And therefore?
VILLAGER #2:
A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
A witch!
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!...
VILLAGER #4:
Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE:
Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
CROWD:
Ohh! Ohh! Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Ahh! Ahh...
BEDEVERE:
Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
[creak]
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch!
WITCH:
It's a fair cop.
VILLAGER #3:
Burn her!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR:
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEVERE:
My liege!
ARTHUR:
Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Camelot and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEVERE:
My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR:
What is your name?
BEDEVERE:
'Bedevere', my liege.
ARTHUR:
Then I dub you 'Sir Bedemere, Knight of the Round Table'.
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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75469 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 9:34pm
Subject: Need ideas for power distribution panel
Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power from the battery.
I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be appreciated
I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
TIA,
-Mike
75470 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery.... If you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about it and do it next :)
Nick Gasmena
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power from the battery.
I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be appreciated
I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
TIA,
-Mike
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75471 From: Smitty <jeepinsmitty@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:15pm
Subject: RE: yj gas tank
Well Indeed all the information out there says that Chrysler only made one size tank for the Yj's, the 20 gallon one. However I beg to differ with that. I too was in the mind set of converting my tank to hold the 20 gallons. When i went through the whole process of pulling the tube out that is supposed to be something like 9 1/2 inches long. Mine was only 3 inches, so needless to say I can still only get 15 gallons in my tank. I know this because the day after I pulled the 3 inches of tubing I ran the jeep til I ran out of gas. When I filled it up only 15 gallons would fit. So I was disappointed. Now I do know that my yj actually has a 96 engine in it from the VIN thats what teh dealer told me, so I am not sure if all 95's are the same or not. Its worth the try or if you can crawl underneath your rig and there is a barcode sticker on teh drivers side of the tank and post the numbers on it I can compare it to mine and see if they match or something. Just FYI..
Smitty
Steve Meyer wrote:
That sounds really freaking weird. There are two different sized tanks.
Don't know anything about this cutting the tube shorter stuff. You sure
about this?
--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: dbkcs [mailto:dbkcs@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yj gas tank
I AM LOOKING FOR HELP TO CONVERT MY 95 YJ TANK FROM A 15 GALLON TO
A 20 GALLON. I NEED TO DO THIS SATURDAY THE 18TH IN THE AFTERNOON.
I HAVE THE INFORMATION ON HknowO CONVERT THE TANK. THE INFO SHOWS
THE TANK IS ACTUALLY A 20 GALLON BUT DUE TO A FILL TUBE IT ONLY A 15
GALLON. I NEED TO PULL THE FILL TUBE OUT AND CUT IT TO ABOUT 2.5
INCHES, THUS MAKING IT A 20 GALLON TANK. ANYWAY IF YOU CAN HELP ME
CALL ME AFTER 6:30 P.M. THIS WEEK AT 623 849 5800 AND ASK STEVE. IF
I'M NOT HOME LEAVE ME A NUMBER AND I'LL GET IN TOUCH WHEN I GET
HOME. OR E-MAIL ME AT DBKCS@YAHOO.COM.
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75472 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:15pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
I agree with Nick... go to a car audio store, just dont go to Audio
Express! They do not give you your money back if you get the wrong
part (I used cash to buy it)! I didn't even open the box, and
returned it the same day and all they would give me is store credit.
I bought a battery terminal with multiple outputs, but I bought the
Negative clamp, not the Positive. Instead of drive all the way back
to Audio Express I got the correct one at a closer store to get the
job done... so I didnt need it anymore. Needless to say I should
have looked at the box closer before I left the store, but now I
have a $15 credit there that I will probably never use. -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was
there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I
think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio
express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery.... If
you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to
do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about
it and do it next :)
>
> Nick Gasmena
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike
> To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
>
>
> Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has added
a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct power
from the battery.
>
> I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be
live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my
aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb
compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any
leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would be
appreciated
>
> I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have
is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking for.
>
> TIA,
>
> -Mike
>
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Service.
75473 From: Brandon <jeepinaz@c...> <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:20pm
Subject: Re: Need ideas for power distribution panel
I am using a 4 fuse car stereo fuse block. It takes the large
fuses, don't know if you need more than that. It was the first
thing I thought of using.
http://members.cox.net/jeepinaz/fuse
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
<g_rob_williams@y...> wrote:
> I agree with Nick... go to a car audio store, just dont go to
Audio
> Express! They do not give you your money back if you get the wrong
> part (I used cash to buy it)! I didn't even open the box, and
> returned it the same day and all they would give me is store
credit.
> I bought a battery terminal with multiple outputs, but I bought
the
> Negative clamp, not the Positive. Instead of drive all the way
back
> to Audio Express I got the correct one at a closer store to get
the
> job done... so I didnt need it anymore. Needless to say I should
> have looked at the box closer before I left the store, but now I
> have a $15 credit there that I will probably never use. -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Auto zone had a distribution block a few weeks ago when I was
> there... I dont remember details... i think it was around $40... I
> think it would be easy to get a distribution block from audio
> express, with a 12 guage wire w/ inline fuse to the battery....
If
> you decide to do this and need help contact me... if you decide to
> do this and dont need help, document your work so I can read about
> it and do it next :)
> >
> > Nick Gasmena
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Mike
> > To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:34 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Need ideas for power distribution panel
> >
> >
> > Need some tips/advice/ideas/comments from anyone that has
added
> a separate power panel distribution for easy access to direct
power
> from the battery.
> >
> > I am looking at installing a panel in my 2000 TJ that will be
> live (a direct feed from the battery) and I can make all my
> aftermarket connections to, i.e. rock lights/driving lights/arb
> compressor. I was wondering if anyone has done this and has any
> leads on where to get the parts. Also, any tips/pics etc... would
be
> appreciated
> >
> > I have checked the obvious auto parts stores and all they have
> is some lower quality components that are not what I am looking
for.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > -Mike
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
75474 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Jan 14, 2003 10:44pm
Subject: RE: re. intentional trail blockage
Good point. We need an objective investigation.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:31 PM
To: 'enb4w'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
John,
Ever see the Monte Python movie Search for the Holy Grail ?
For your reading pleasure& for some reason; this feels like an appropriate time for it&
A small excerpt from a scene early in the movie&
Joe West
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!
[bonk]
A witch! A witch!
MONKS: [chanting]
Pie Iesu domine...
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! We've found a witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
No.
VILLAGERS #2 and #3:
No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGERS #1 and #2:
A bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGER #1:
She has got a wart.
RANDOM:
[cough]
BEDEVERE:
What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her!...
BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
VILLAGER #2:
Do they hurt?
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
VILLAGER #3:
Shh!
VILLAGER #2:
Wood!
BEDEVERE:
So, why do witches burn?
[pause]
VILLAGER #3:
B--... 'cause they're made of... wood?
BEDEVERE:
Good! Heh heh.
CROWD:
Oh, yeah. Oh.
BEDEVERE:
So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?
VILLAGER #1:
Build a bridge out of her.
BEDEVERE:
Ah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
VILLAGER #1:
Oh, yeah.
RANDOM:
Oh, yeah. True. Uhh...
BEDEVERE:
Does wood sink in water?
VILLAGER #1:
No. No.
VILLAGER #2:
No, it floats! It floats!
VILLAGER #1:
Throw her into the pond!
CROWD:
The pond! Throw her into the pond!
BEDEVERE:
What also floats in water?
VILLAGER #1:
Bread!
VILLAGER #2:
Apples!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, very small rocks!
VILLAGER #1:
Cider!
VILLAGER #2:
Uh, gra-- gravy!
VILLAGER #1:
Cherries!
VILLAGER #2:
Mud!
VILLAGER #3:
Uh, churches! Churches!
VILLAGER #2:
Lead! Lead!
ARTHUR:
A duck!
CROWD:
Oooh.
BEDEVERE:
Exactly. So, logically...
VILLAGER #1:
If... she... weighs... the same as a duck,... she's made of wood.
BEDEVERE:
And therefore?
VILLAGER #2:
A witch!
VILLAGER #1:
A witch!
CROWD:
A witch! A witch!...
VILLAGER #4:
Here is a duck. Use this duck.
[quack quack quack]
BEDEVERE:
Very good. We shall use my largest scales.
CROWD:
Ohh! Ohh! Burn the witch! Burn the witch! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Ahh! Ahh...
BEDEVERE:
Right. Remove the supports!
[whop]
[clunk]
[creak]
CROWD:
A witch! A witch! A witch!
WITCH:
It's a fair cop.
VILLAGER #3:
Burn her!
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn her! Burn her! Burn! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
Who are you who are so wise in the ways of science?
ARTHUR:
I am Arthur, King of the Britons.
BEDEVERE:
My liege!
ARTHUR:
Good Sir Knight, will you come with me to Camelot and join us at the Round Table?
BEDEVERE:
My liege! I would be honored.
ARTHUR:
What is your name?
BEDEVERE:
'Bedevere', my liege.
ARTHUR:
Then I dub you 'Sir Bedemere, Knight of the Round Table'.
-----Original Message-----
From: enb4w [mailto:enb4w@earnhardt.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Let me throw a wrench into everyones thinking. That is the area with the minor. Is it not possible that he did the blasting because he didnt want people coming through his mine area? Before somebody goes off blaming the BLM that should be looked at and figured out&..
Thats my two cents&..
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 10:00 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Dont know couldnt tell you. I dont know the trails at FJ to have any clue. If I new my way around and had lockers I would go check it out tomorrow.
Clint
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Clint Ramsey; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
Clint, all...........
Jack just plotted Gary's coordinances and his plot shows the top of Bad Medicine.................... That's all I know. S.
-----Original Message-----
From: Clint Ramsey [mailto:cwramsey@theriver.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] re. intentional trail blockage
This is what I got when I entered the coordinates at topozone
Here's a USGS topographic map from the TopoZone!
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=12&n=3671430&e=482958&s=25
Clint Ramsey
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