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74856 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 0:41pm
Subject: [FS] Hardtop and Doors from 1984 CJ7
Price: $550.00 O.B.O
Contact: Tim 480-227-0101
Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7. Hardtop removed from a fairly rusty jeep hailing from the northwest. Top is in good shape, but has rusted all around the latch for the rear window and will need to be replaced if you want to lock the hatch. Both doors have very minor surface rust and one has broken wing window glass.
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74857 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: [FS] Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7
Price: $550.00 O.B.O.
Contact: Tim 480-227-0101
Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7. Hardtop removed from a fairly rusty jeep hailing from the northwest. Top is in good shape, but has rusted all around the latch for the rear window and will need to be replaced if you want to lock the hatch. Both doors have very minor surface rust and one has broken wing window glass.
74858 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:17pm
Subject: [FS] WANTED speaker boxes that wedge between the roll bar and wheel well
Price: You tell me ???
Contact: Danny 623-573-6743
I know they are in just about every parts cataloge I have. So someone must have some used ones ??? Thought I would check here first, before buying new ;-)
Danny Mort
74859 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:24pm
Subject: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
74860 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:24pm
Subject: [FS] Super Best Top for 74cj-5
Price: $200
Contact: Neal Han****
This is just the top it's self. The top was only used 3 times before the jeep became a trailer queen. All the windows zip out, this would make a great replacement if your top is bad. I have some of the hardware but not the doors.
480-720-2685
Neal Han****
74861 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:23pm
Subject: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
oooooooooooo!!! YUMMYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
Guys,
First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and such usually require the highest cfm rating.
Cheapest is not always best!!!
If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
----- Original Message -----
Product Detail
(Image shown may differ from actual product appearance.)
Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor, Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
$639.99
Sears Item #00916623000
Mfr. Model #VT7610
Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
Features Description
Product Overview:
Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
Portability Stationary
Power Option Powered
Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
General Warranty 3 year limited
Tank:
Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
Compressor Tank Type Vertical
SCFM Delivery:
SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
Good luck,
Shawn
From: onebdjeep
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look around to find the killer deals.
47246-0VGA
GREAT BUY!
2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is complete without one.
110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
115 PSI maximum
4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
8 gallon tank capacity
Oil lubrication
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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74862 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
74863 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:11pm
Subject: RE: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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74864 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
jeff... i can't believe your wife would yell at you! i have never heard of a
wife yelling at her husband. that is rediculous! wait a minute... we ARE too
far from planet perfect. i feel your pain Jeff!!! i really do!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
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taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
entities other than the intended recipient or employees of
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74865 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...> <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
I don't think so, in an earlier post it was stated you had to come
out the same way you came it. Lower Tax Collector(you can bail out
at the mid point before starting upper), where firebird and tax
colletor meet you can bail out and run up along the ridge above the
trails.
I just can't picture where this trail is, but I really want to know.
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
wrote:
>
> I wonder if this is what some people call lower tax collector.
After leaving
> appetizer and heading north on the dirt trail, there is a drop
that the dirt
> road takes through the wash to continue onto firebird. If you turn
left into
> the wash there, instead of going straight. And follow the wash you
run into
> this trail (I have heard it called lower tax collector and lower
firebird).
> The only reason I even mention it is because its about 1/2 mile
south of the
> entrance to firebird. and the first obstacle is a v waterfall like
what was
> said in the earlier posts.
> It is basically the same wash that firebird is in and you can exit
at the
> start of firebird. Is this the scorpion trail?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> >To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>,"jpclub"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
> >
> >
> >It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> >beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> >out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> >From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> >To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it at
> >the whitetanks?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Frank
> >BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> >it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> >interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> >White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> >area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
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74866 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...> <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:34pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Stolen! 1948 Willy's Flat Fender
The picture did not come through.
Chris
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74867 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:45pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted - Factory zipper style upper soft doors for a TJ
Price: ??
Contact: jeeperinaz@azbackcountry.com
Looking for upper soft doors that will fit a TJ. Can't use glass sliders since the doors are diamond plate style.
Chris Benner
74868 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
DANG! Must be one'0 them thar DEMOCRATS! (Quick boy, git a stick an whop it
one!)
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To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Trujillo, Jeff"
<jeff.trujillo@m...>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> jeff... i can't believe your wife would yell at you! i have never heard of
a
> wife yelling at her husband. that is rediculous! wait a minute... we ARE
too
> far from planet perfect. i feel your pain Jeff!!! i really do!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
> for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> <tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one
for
> sale. sorry. <sniff>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
> was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
> I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
> to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
> on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
> or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
> selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
> of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
> I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
> one I origionally wanted! -Rob
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
> wrote:
> > Guys,
> > First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
> compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
> with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
> such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> > Cheapest is not always best!!!
> > If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
> Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> > $639.99
> >
> >
> > Sears Item #00916623000
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> > Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
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> >
> >
> > Features Description
> > Product Overview:
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> >
> > Portability Stationary
> >
> > Power Option Powered
> >
> > Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
> >
> > General Warranty 3 year limited
> >
> > Tank:
> > Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
> >
> > Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
> >
> > Compressor Tank Type Vertical
> >
> > SCFM Delivery:
> > SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
> >
> > SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
> >
> >
> >
> > I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Shawn
> >
> > From: onebdjeep
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
> >
> >
> > I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
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> around to find the killer deals.
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> > 47246-0VGA
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74869 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:59pm
Subject: RE: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
OK OK here it is. If you have been out there you know there is a power
line that runs north and south (generally). If you know where Tax
collector is that is the main trail wash. Because Tax Collector turns
into Firebird then Firebird turns into Ruler, same wash. The power line
pretty much runs on top this wash. Now remember where you enter Tax
Collector? If you look SSW up a large hill you will see a power pole on
the peak. That is the direction you want to head for Intimidator because
the power line runs on the left side of this wash as you head south. Be
careful in this area as I have noticed a few wild cat exits created on
this trail.
Now you want to know where Scorpion is?? Ok but remember this is a NO
EXIT trail. You have to go out the way you came in, but I think there is
relief for the first waterfall. The trail that crosses Tax Collector and
Firebird takes you over a small hill and toward a "pass" to the back
side of the White Tanks. Well you go over that hill and about a 1/4 to
1/2 mile you cross a large wash, go north in the wash and boom your on
Scorpion.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:02 PM
To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
I wonder if this is what some people call lower tax collector. After
leaving
appetizer and heading north on the dirt trail, there is a drop that the
dirt
road takes through the wash to continue onto firebird. If you turn left
into
the wash there, instead of going straight. And follow the wash you run
into
this trail (I have heard it called lower tax collector and lower
firebird).
The only reason I even mention it is because its about 1/2 mile south of
the
entrance to firebird. and the first obstacle is a v waterfall like what
was
said in the earlier posts.
It is basically the same wash that firebird is in and you can exit at
the
start of firebird. Is this the scorpion trail?
>From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>,"jpclub"
><az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
>
>
>It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall at
>beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn around
come
>out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
>From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
>To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
>
>
>I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where abouts is
>it at
>the whitetanks?
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank
>BadAzXJ@m...
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Edward Timmsen
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> >To: Joey@d...
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but never
> >made
>it up though the BIG V-notch
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: DesertJeep
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area might
> > be
>interesting with all this rain.
> >
> >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west side of
> >the
>White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a small
>play
>area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> >
> >Joey K
> >93YJ
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> >To: jpclub
> >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet at
>Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
> >
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74870 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 2:04pm
Subject: Re: Wheel Studs
I'm assuming rear drums here. If you have a Dana 44, simply pull the
wheel and drum, use a box wrench to take the 4 nuts of the studs
holding the wheel bearing retainer plate in position, and then slide
the axle out. Now you have easy access to the studs.
If you have a Dana 35, then you can certainly open the diff and
remove the c-clips and do what ever else is necessary to slide the
axles out. But I'd try replacing the studs with the axles in the
housing WITHOUT drilling holes in the backing plates.
My preferred way to replace wheel studs is to press them out/in. But
I know others have had success using a BFH. You could probably pound
the old studs out with a hammer and then press in new studs using one
of those Harbor Freight u-joint tools if there's enough room to get
it around the back side of the axle flange (might have to remove a
brake shoe.
I have one of the Harbor Freight u-joint tools and that's what I've
used to press wheel studs in/out of my axles. Works like a charm.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Ruben Aviles" <raviles@a...> wrote:
> I'm going to attempt to replace some wheel studs at home tonight.
Does
> anyone know any special tricks for doing this? Is there enough
room to get
> the new ones in without having to drill a hole through the backing
plate on
> the brake? any suggestions would be helpful.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 3188
>
>
> > There are 25 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > 2. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > 3. Re: Re: Troy and Sharky comparing......... OUCH!
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > 4. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > 5. [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, January 11, 2003 -
Reminder
> > From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> > 6. Fwd: Action Alert - Healthy Forests Initiative -
Rulemaking
> Comments
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 7. Fwd: CHMN. POMBO - Prop. Rights VICTORY!
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 8. Fwd: New suit challenges air rules in parks snowmobiles
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 9. Fwd: [Faunkybroncys] FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT
TORTOISE
> RECOVERY
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 10. Fwd: West Mojave Management Plan Update
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 11. Fwd: News & Notes for the Politically Motivated
Motorcyclists
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 12. Wanted Compressor
> > From: "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
> <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > 13. Land Use Permits
> > From: "dadecamp <dadecamp@e...>"
> <dadecamp@e...>
> > 14. Re: Wanted Compressor
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 15. Re: Land Use Permits
> > From: "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...>
> > 16. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "blt4rox <blt4rox@e...>" <blt4rox@e...>
> > 17. Fwd: WALL: Fw: GOODLATTE ELECTED CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE
> AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 18. RE: Needed one Rear Shock tower post.
> > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > 19. Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 20. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
> > 21. RE: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
> > 22. Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 23. RE: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > 24. Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 25. RE: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it
> at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet
at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:49:55 -0700
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > 2 waterfalls? 1st one is pretty steep, not too bad, 2nd maybe a
little
> steeper but not so high... around the corner from there is the can
opener i
> believe... I never went through _it_... my buddies have had some
carnage
> on that one :) The waterfalls are fun... it was my jeeps "maiden
run"
> after i did the long arm and 38 1/2"s... Have fun!
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edward Timmsen
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona ; jpclub
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big
waterfall at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is
> it at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying
but never
> made it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That
area might
> be interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the
west side of
> the White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in
a small
> play area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles
out
> there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun.
Meet at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
> > >
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:59:38 -0700
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Troy and Sharky comparing......... OUCH!
> >
> > Well they shouldnt have a problem learning how to "roll over"
> hahahahah!!!!
> > Have a good day! *knock on wood*
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> > To: <MSA12171@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Troy and Sharky comparing.........
> >
> >
> > > All I can say is at least they would be offroad puppies...not
pavement
> > > puppies. ooops, did I say that? Not that you drive a pavement
pounder
> or
> > > anything Mike hahaha Id put ya up against any H2 out
there. :)~
> > >
> > > Sharky
> > >
> > > << Are you sure you want THOSE puppies??? Do you realize who
the
> > > parents will be? Talk about a spoiled litter. I can't even
imagine
> > > what they'd look like. ;)
> > >
> > > Mike Anderson >>
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 05:59:04 -0700
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > Scorpion is about 2-1/2 miles from trail with can opener, can't
remember
> name of that trail
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:49 AM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; jpclub; Edward Timmsen
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > 2 waterfalls? 1st one is pretty steep, not too bad, 2nd maybe a
little
> steeper but not so high... around the corner from there is the can
opener i
> believe... I never went through _it_... my buddies have had some
carnage
> on that one :) The waterfalls are fun... it was my jeeps "maiden
run"
> after i did the long arm and 38 1/2"s... Have fun!
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edward Timmsen
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona ; jpclub
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it
> at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet
at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:11:20 (GMT)
> > From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> > Subject: [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, January 11, 2003 -
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:00:47 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: Action Alert - Healthy Forests Initiative -
Rulemaking
> Comments
> >
> > The below request for action has some important implications for
> > recreation and property rights. The Health Forests Initiative
will
> > ensure that forests are managed and not left to be tinder boxes
for
> > the types of devastating wildfires fires experienced the past few
> > years.
> >
> > It will ensure we do have forests to enjoy.
> >
> > Please take a couple of minutes and help support the Healthy
Forest
> Initiative.
> >
> > ************************************************
> >
> > Chris West, Vice President
> > American Forest Resource Council
> > 503-222-9505
> > 503-222-3255 (F)
> > <mailto:cwest@a...>cwest@a...
> > <http://www.afrc.ws>www.afrc.ws
> >
> >
> >
> > January 8, 2003
> >
> > TO: AFRC Members and Friends
> >
> > FROM: Tom Partin
> >
> > RE: Urgent Action Required - Comments on Bush's
> > Healthy Forests Initiative
> >
> > Earlier this week you were sent an Action Alert regarding comments
> > needed on President Bush's Healthy Forests Initiative. Improving
the
> > health of our forests to reduce the risk of insects, diseases and
> > catastrophic wildfires is a top priority for President Bush. His
> > proposals will modernize regulations clearing the way for
responsible
> > management that focuses on protecting forests, watersheds,
wildlife
> > and communities. Your comment letters, as well as your
employees',
> > that express support for the changes President Bush is proposing
are
> > critically important.
> >
> > Response to date has been extremely disappointing; with just one
> > hundred individuals sending emails to the respective agency
> > officials. Noteworthy is the fact that Erickson Air Crane has had
> > great participation, followed by Boise and Sierra Pacific
Industries.
> > While the latter two companies have about a dozen participants,
given
> > the size of their operations there is still a lot more potential.
> >
> > We have made it easy for you and your employees to support the
> > President's Healthy Forests Initiative, you can either
> > <http://capwiz.com/landsense/issues/alert/?
alertid=1157026&type=CU>Click
> > Here or visit AFRC's website at <http://www.afrc.ws/>www.afrc.ws
and
> > the 'click & send' comment emails can be found under Public
> > Comment.
> >
> > For your employees that do not have Internet access, several other
> > forms of comment such as petitions and postcards are available.
For
> > more information, contact AFRC's Portland office at 503-222-9505.
> >
> > Remember, in his decision to stand with us and address the forest
> > health crisis, President Bush has loaned us his own good name and
all
> > of the power that comes with his office. But he needs our strong
> > support to put his Healthy Forests Initiative on a firm and
lasting
> > foundation.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:07:53 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: CHMN. POMBO - Prop. Rights VICTORY!
> >
> > There has been speculation as to the new Chairman of the House
> > Resources Committee. And the winner is......
> >
> >
> > POMBO NAMED CHAIRMAN: PROPERTY RIGHTS VICTORY !
> >
> > American Land Rights Association
> > 30218 NE 82nd Avenue, Battle Ground, WA 98604
> > 360-687-3087, fax 360-687-2973
> >
> > January 8, 2002
> > Contact: Mike Hardiman
> > 202-210-2357
> >
> > WASHINGTON, DC - Advocates of private property rights are
jubilant at
> > the selection of Representative Richard Pombo (R-CA) to be
Chairman
> > of the House of Representatives Committee on Resources.
> >
> > Pombo was named Chairman today by the Republican leadership, which
> > makes committee assignments and names chairmen. The Resources
> > committee has jurisdiction over a wide range of issues vitally
> > important to private property rights and use of the public lands,
> > including agencies within the Interior Department, the Endangered
> > Species Act, water, timber, mining and fisheries management.
> >
> > Here is what some leaders of the property rights movement had to
say:
> >
> > "Richard Pombo is straight from the grassroots. He has been there
> > for us time and time again in Congress, from adding common sense
to
> > the Endangered Species Act to stopping attempted land grab
> > legislation to promoting multiple use of federal lands. With
Richard
> > Pombo as chairman, everyone will be heard from and the grassroots
> > will have a seat at the table."
> > Chuck Cushman, American Land Rights Association
> > Battle Ground, Washington
> > 360-607-3312 (cell) <http://www.landrights.org>www.landrights.org
> >
> > "Representative Pombo has proven his awareness of issues that
> > property owners face across the country, East and West. He has
stood
> > up for farmers in the mid-west, forest owners in the northeast,
and
> > ranchers in the far west."
> > Carol LaGrasse, Property Rights Foundation of America
> > Stony Creek, New York
> > 518-696-5748 <http://www.prfamerica.org>www.prfamerica.org
> >
> > "Richard Pombo understands how far the federal government has over
> > reached into the lives of the average American, with no benefit
for
> > people or the environment, just the bureaucracy. I believe he
will
> > work toward restoring a balance. He has earned the chairmanship
and
> > deserves the opportunity."
> > Henry Lamb, Eco-Logic Foundation
> > Hollow Rock, Tennessee
> > 731-986-0099 <http://www.freedom.org>www.freedom.org
> >
> > "This is the most exciting news that private land owners and
resource
> > producers have had in ten years. We know first-hand from
experiences
> > that range from Klamath Falls, Oregon to Dade County, Florida that
> > Mr. Pombo stands for the rights of small property owners."
> > G. B. Oliver, Paragon Foundation
> > Alamogordo, New Mexico
> > 505-434-8998
<http://www.paragonpowerhouse.org>www.paragonpowerhouse.org
> >
> > "Richard Pombo has always been a staunch advocate for us. I am
very
> > excited about his taking the chairmanship because he believes in
the
> > Fifth Amendment in the same way our founding fathers did."
> > Patricia Bradburn, Virginians for Property Rights
> > Catharpin, Virginia
> > 703-754-7900 <mailto:Pbradburn@e...>Pbradburn@e...
> >
> > "We have a long history of working with Richard Pombo, and are
> > delighted that he is chairman. This is great news for advocates
of
> > recreational access to our nation's public lands."
> > Clark Collins, Blue Ribbon Coalition (off-road recreation access)
> > Pocatello, Idaho
> > 208-237-1008 <http://www.sharetrails.org>www.sharetrails.org
> >
> > The American Land Rights Association, founded in 1977, is a
> > nationwide, grassroots organization. Members include farmers,
> > ranchers, woodlot owners, inholders of private property
surrounded by
> > public lands, cabin permitees and other small landowners
supporting
> > private property rights and multiple use of the federal lands.
> >
> > END
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:15:25 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: New suit challenges air rules in parks snowmobiles
> >
> > A point to ponder:
> >
> > Snowmobile engines = Personal Water Craft engines = ATV engines
> >
> > and are close to motorcycle engines.
> >
> > Expectations are the environmental organizations will be
increasing
> > the number of lawsuits filed. The BlueRibbon Coalition has been
> > deeply involved with the snowmobile issue for a number of years.
> > Please support their Legal Defense Fund. (www.sharetrails.org)
> >
> > >
> >
> ><http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?
display=rednews/2003/01/09/build/
> wyoming/a-snomosuit.inc>http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?
display=red
> news/2003/01/09/build/wyoming/a-snomosuit.inc
> > >
> > >New suit challenges air rules in parks
> > >
> > >By MIKE STARK
> > >Gazette Wyoming Bureau
> > >
> > >Environmental groups have filed a lawsuit charging that the
federal
> > >government went too easy on snowmobile manufacturers in new
> > >pollution standards approved in November.
> > >
> > >Bluewater Network and Environmental Defense say the Environmental
> > >Protection Agency violated the federal Clean Air Act by not
> > >requiring snowmobiles to meet emission standards that are
achievable
> > >by today's technology.
> > >
> > >"They are not following the law," said Sean Smith of Bluewater
Network.
> > >
> > >For the first time ever, the EPA in early November established
> > >limits on how much pollution will be allowed from snowmobiles.
The
> > >new rules say snowmobiles will have to run 30 percent cleaner
within
> > >four years and meet tougher standards in 2010 and 2012.
> > >
> > >
> > >The regulations are part of a larger movement within the EPA to
> > >reign in pollution from off-road vehicles and large industrial
> > >engines.
> > >
> > >Smith said the Clean Air Act mandates that federal emission
> > >standards achieve the greatest degree of reduction based on
> > >currently available technology.
> > >
> > >Most snowmobile manufacturers are already producing four-stroke
> > >engines that reduce pollution by up to 95 percent. Smith said the
> > >EPA should have required that snowmobiles meet that standard.
> > >
> > >"The technology is already in the dealerships," he said. "We
> > >definitely think the time frame should be moved up."
> > >
> > >The EPA was on the brink of approving tougher standards before
the
> > >Bush administration took office, Smith said.
> > >
> > >"I think they're under heavy political pressure to pacify the
> > >industry," Smith said.
> > >
> > >Hours after the environmental groups filed suit in Washington,
D.C.,
> > >federal court, the International Snowmobile Manufacturers
> > >Association filed legal papers to make sure industry is involved
in
> > >any legal action on the emissions standards.
> > >
> > >Ed Klim, president of the ISMA, said the "environmental
extremists"
> > >are simply trying to derail EPA's "ambitious standards and
> > >aggressive schedule that were based on good science."
> > >
> > >He said the snowmobile industry is feeling the crunch of the new
> > >emission standards but believes they will be able to meet the
> > >schedule established by EPA.
> > >
> > >"It's really a pretty tight time frame compared to other
vehicles," Klim
> said.
> > >
> > >The 2003 snowmobile models are finished and 2004 models are under
> > >way. Eliminating emissions for the 2006 models will be tough,
Klim
> > >said. "When you build vehicles, two years is not much lead time.
We
> > >also have to work in the marketplace to convince people to buy
them."
> > >
> > >As the environmental groups' lawsuit progresses, Klim said he
wants
> > >the snowmobile industry to be given every opportunity to respond
to
> > >claims that might be raised in court.
> > >
> > >"We want to be at the table for every meeting, not every other
> > >meeting," Klim said.
> > >
> > >Cathy Milbourn, an EPA spokeswoman in Washington, D.C., said she
> > >couldn't respond to the environmental groups' lawsuit because the
> > >EPA hasn't seen it yet.
> > >
> > >But she reaffirmed the EPA's stance that the new emissions
> > >standards, when they are fully implemented, will remove more
than 2
> > >million tons of pollution from the air every year - the
equivalent
> > >of removing 32 million cars from the road.
> > >
> > >Even though some snowmobile makers are already producing cleaner
> > >machines, Milbourn said the EPA wanted to give the industry time
to
> > >conform to stricter emissions limitations.
> > >
> > >"The idea is to provide a reasonable amount of time for the
industry
> > >to comply with the rule," she said.
> > >
> > >Although the new emissions rules will apply to snowmobiles across
> > >the nation, the machines will have to meet tougher standards
under a
> > >new proposal to allow machines into Yellowstone and Grand Teton
> > >national parks, according to park officials.
> > >
> > >The plan, which could be approved later this year, would be
phased
> > >in over upcoming winters.
> > >
> > >
> > >Mike Stark can be reached at (307) 527-7250 or at
> > ><mailto:mstark@b...>mstark@b...
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:41:38 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: [Faunkybroncys] FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT
TORTOISE
> RECOVERY
> >
> > This legal action is in response to the recent GAO report
critical of
> > the USFWS and BLM efforts concerning the Desert Tortoise.
> >
> > These organizations need your support:
> >
> > AMA D-37 - http://www.district37ama.org/home.html
> > California Off Road Vehicle Association (CORVA) -
http://www.corva.org/
> > Off Road Business Association (ORBA) - http://www.orbanet.org/
> > San Diego Off Road Vehicle Association (SDORC) -
http://www.sdorc.org/
> >
> >
> > FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT TORTOISE RECOVERY
> >
> > 1/8/03 San Diego. Public land access advocates served a notice
of
> > intent to sue to federal agencies on Wednesday charging that the
U.S.
> > Department of Interior, and its two subordinate agencies, the
United
> > Fish & Wildlife Service (USFWS) and the Bureau of Land Management
> > (BLM) have knowingly and negligently impeded the recovery of the
> > desert tortoise since its listing as "threatened" in 1989.
> > The four organizations, primarily off road groups, claim that the
> > DOI, USFWS and BLM have failed to take reasonable steps to arrest
the
> > spread of Upper Respiratory Tract Disease (URTD), which is
suspected
> > to be the primary cause of dramatic declines in desert tortoise
> > populations. The action also cites the agencies' failure to
properly
> > monitor the recovery efforts, and claim the agencies have ignored
the
> > growing body of science that indicates URTD, along with raven
> > predation, are driving the species rapidly toward extinction
> > throughout the deserts of California, Arizona, Nevada and Utah.
> > This action also follows the release of a report from the General
> > Accounting Office (GAO), which indicates that federal government
has
> > spent over $100 million in the last 12 years trying to protect the
> > tortoise; with little or no evidence these efforts have made any
> > difference.
> > "The DOI efforts to recover the desert tortoise have been an
abject
> > failure.," states David P. Hubbard an environmental attorney who
> > filed the notice. "Millions of dollars have been expended, and
> > millions of acres of federal land have been closed off to public
use;
> > yet the tortoise continues to spiral towards extinction."
> > The filing will heat up the battle between recreationists and
those
> > who want to close the desert to off-road vehicles and campers.
> > Since 1994, millions of acres of public lands have been closed off
> > from motorized access, making over 14% of California inaccessible
to
> > the public.
> > "The federal agencies are being driven to closure decisions by
> > environmental lawsuits, and fail to consider the science or
> > economical impact of the communities that are affected.," states
> > Michelle Cassella of AMA D-37 Sports Committee, the lead
organization
> > in the action. "Recent studies funded in part by off road
interests
> > clearly indicate that in many cases the public has little or no
> > impact on threatened species. Ironically, it is the trails and
> > highways in the desert that provide barriers for disease
transmission
> > among tortoise populations."
> > Other plaintiffs in the action include the California Off Road
> > Vehicle Association (CORVA), Off Road Business Association (ORBA),
> > and the San Diego Off Road Vehicle Association (SDORC).
> >
> > David Hubbard is an environmental and land use attorney with the
firm
> > of Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch, LLP located in San Diego,
> > CA. He represents public land advocates who have filed the 60 Day
> > Notice of Intent to Sue. (760) 496-0776
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:48:53 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: West Mojave Management Plan Update
> >
> >
> > KERN AND SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES TO HOLD SCOPING MEETINGS
> >
> > Bakersfield:
> > January 9, 2003
> > 2:00 - 4:00 p.m.
> > Kern County Public Services Building
> > 2700 M" Street
> > Bakersfield, California
> > Point of Contact: Lorelei Oviatt, (661) 862-8866
> >
> > Ridgecrest:
> > January 10, 2003
> > 9:00 - 11:00 a.m.
> > City of Ridgecrest Council Chambers
> > 100 W. California Avenue
> > Ridgecrest, California
> > Point of Contact: Lorelei Oviatt, (661) 862-8866
> >
> > San Bernardino:
> > January 16, 2003
> > 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
> > San Bernardino County Museum
> > 2024 Orange Tree Lane
> > San Bernardino, California
> > Point of Contact: Randy Scott, (909) 387-4147
> >
> >
> > The BLM held a series of scoping meetings for the West
Mojave Plan
> > (WMP) in early 2002. At that time it wasn't clear whether the
scope of the
> > project would require evaluation under the provisions of the
California
> > Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). It has now been determined
that the
> > development of a programmatic Environmental Impact Report (EIR) is
> required
> > for compliance with the CEQA guidelines. Because the Counties of
Kern and
> > San Bernardino represent the largest implementation areas covered
by the
> > WMP, they will serve as Co-Lead Agencies in the development of
the EIR.
> > The initial step involved in developing the EIR is to
determine the
> > scope of the potential impacts and issues that should be
addressed in the
> > environmental document by holding public meetings to seek input
from
> > stakeholders including responsible agencies, other key agencies,
> > organizations, private property owners, and interested
individuals. Thus,
> > a series of public scoping meetings will be held by the Kern
County
> > Planning Department and the San Bernardino County Land Use
Services
> > Department.
> > The Draft EIR is scheduled for release in the spring of
2003. When
> > completed, the Final EIR, will assess the environmental impacts
of a
> > proposed action and a range of reasonable alternatives (including
a "no
> > action" alternative). Availability of the Draft EIR for public
review and
> > comment will be announced and noticed in the local media.
> > The WMP involves the management of 3.6 million acres of
public land
> > administered by the BLM and 2.8 million acres of private
property. The
> WMP
> > is being prepared collaboratively with local, state, and federal
agencies
> > with intent that the WMP serve as a habitat conservation plan
(HCP) for
> the
> > area. The HCP which will facilitate the issuance of programmatic
> > incidental take permits by the California Department of Fish and
Game and
> > the United States Fish and Wildlife Service to participating
cities,
> > counties, and private property owners. Included in the HCP are
> > conservation strategies for the desert tortoise, Mojave ground
squirrel,
> > and other sensitive desert plants and animals. Also included in
the HCP
> > are motorized vehicle road use designations on public lands in
the region,
> > as well as multiple use issues such as livestock grazing, mining,
cultural
> > resources and recreation.
> > Information regarding the West Mojave Plan is available on
the
> > Internet at http://www.ca.blrn.gov/cdd/wemo.htrnl or from Kern or
San
> > Bernardino County planning departments.
> > Written comments regarding this ER can be mailed directly
to the
> > counties at the addresses provided below. Because of time limits
mandated
> > by state law, comments must be received at the earliest possible
date but
> > no later than January 25, 2002
> >
> > Kern County Planning Department
> > Attention: Lorelei Oviatt
> > Public Services Building
> > 2700 'M' Street, Suite 100
> > Bakersfield, CA 93301-2370
> >
> > County of San Bernardino
> > Land Use Services Department
> > Attention: Randy Scott
> > 385 North Arrowhead Avenue
> > San Bernardino, CA 92415-0182
> >
> >
> >
> > This information is provided by Ron Schiller, Chairman, High
Desert
> > Multiple Use Coalition. As usual, please feel free to pass this
informa
> > tion on to any other interested parties. Anyone wishing to
receive future
> > information regarding issues related to the management of public
lands in
> > the California Desert should send an e-mail to schiller@r...
> > and request to be placed on the distribution list. Please
print "PLEASE
> > ADD TO LIST" in the subject line.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:10:21 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: News & Notes for the Politically Motivated
Motorcyclists
> >
> > > February 2003
> > >
> > >News & Notes for the Politically Motivated Motorcyclists is a
monthly
> service
> > >compiled and edited by the AMA Government Relations Staff to keep
> > >motorcyclists
> > >informed of happenings around the world. We welcome your news &
views.
> Please
> > >submit all material to Terry Lee Cook, Government Relations
Specialist,
> 13515
> > >Yarmouth Drive, Pickerington, OH 43147; fax 614-856-1920 or e-
mail to
> > >tcook@a...
> > >
> > >
> > > Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition (COHVCO) filed a
notice of
> > >appeal of a
> > >federal district court decision which allowed the US Forest
Service
> > >to restrict
> > >motorized travel on 217,000 acres of the Routt National Forest to
> designated
> > >roads and trails without first taking an inventory and
designating
> > >open trails.
> > >COHVCO's case, originally filed in the district court in June of
> > >1999, will now
> > >go up to the Tenth Circuit Federal Court of Appeals in Denver.
> > > At the district court, COHVCO argued that the Forest Service
> > >failed to comply
> > >with the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) and the National
Forest
> Management
> > >Act (NFMA) in its decisions to restrict motorized travel to
> > >designated routes on
> > >the Parks and Yampa Ranger Districts in the Routt National
Forest. The
> Forest
> > >Service originally stated that the restrictions were intended to
close
> > >"illegally constructed or maintained" user-created routes which
had
> > >been created
> > >by riders following the beaten paths of riders before them. After
> > >COHVCO pointed
> > >out that no one had ever actually "constructed" or "maintained"
these
> routes,
> > >the Forest Service then stated that the restrictions were
necessary
> > >to mitigate
> > >"adverse impacts to soil, water, and wildlife." However, the
Forest
> Service
> > >never pointed out just where on the ground these "adverse
impacts" were
> > >occurring.
> > > The Routt National Forest, located in northwestern Colorado
just east
> of
> > >Steamboat Springs, straddles the continental divide and covers
over
> > >1.1 million
> > >acres. The Routt is immensely popular among all types of
recreational
> visitors
> > >due to its varied terrain, incredible beauty, and ease of access
from
> Denver,
> > >Ft. Collins, and other cities on the Front Range. Motorized
recreation
> has
> > >always been one of the Routt's biggest draws.
> > > COHVCO will ask the Tenth Circuit to review the September 30,
2002
> > >decision of
> > >Judge John L. Kane, which said that the Forest Service was not
> > >required to do a
> > >route inventory, and that use of off-highway vehicles could be
restricted
> > >whether or not the Forest Service could prove past or current
conflicts
> or
> > >resource impacts caused by such use.
> > >
> > >
> > > The California Multiple-Use Summit will be held March 22,
2003 in
> > >Sacramento,
> > >CA.
> > > The purpose of this Summit is to bring together
representatives from
> the
> > >entire multiple-use community in order to identify common
problems,
> > >find common
> > >solutions, embark upon unified efforts, and resolve possible
> misunderstandings
> > >between various interest groups. The Summit will focus on
keeping access
> to
> > >lands and resources in California. There are no dues; no
structure; no
> taking
> > >away memberships from anyone; and no political finagling.
> > > All forms of access-oriented enthusiasts are invited,
including but
> not
> > >limited to: four wheelers, equestrians, mountain bikers, metal
detectors,
> ATV
> > >riders, snowmobile riders, off-highway motorcyclists, miners,
ranchers,
> gem
> > >collectors, racers, dune enthusiasts, sand draggers, rock
crawlers, hill
> > >climbers, back country explorers, hikers, etc.
> > > For more information go to www.delalbright.com/summit.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Road Causalities Great Britain, just published by the
Department of
> > >Transport, shows that the number of people killed on British
roads rose
> from
> > >3,409 in 2000 to 3,443 in 2001 despite the rabid increase of
speed
> monitoring
> > >cameras across the English countryside.
> > >
> > >
> > > American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) government
relations staff
> > >participated in the Forest Roads Working Group dialogue held
> > >December 3-4, 2002
> > >in Arlington, Virginia.
> > > The Forest Roads Working Group (FRWG) is comprised of national
> conservation
> > >organizations including: The Izaak Walton League of America,
Wildlife
> Forever,
> > >Wildlife Management Institute, The Wildlife Society, Trout
Unlimited,
> Outdoor
> > >Industry Association, Pinchot Institute for Conservation, and
> International
> > >Paper (all advocating for implementation of the Clinton era
Roadless Area
> > >Conservation Rule).
> > > The dialogue, facilitated by the Meridian Institute under
contract
> with the
> > >FRWG, was attended by 50 representatives of conservation, timber
and
> timber
> > >product organizations, American Hiking Society, western states
> > >officials as well
> > >as Forest Service Chief Bosworth, Mark Rey, David Tenny, David
Barone and
> Gail
> > >Kimball also of the Forest Service. Staff from both the Senate
Public
> Lands &
> > >Forests Subcommittee and House Forests & Forest Health
Subcommittee
> > >attended for
> > >the majority of the meeting. In addition to AMA, motorized
> > >recreation interests
> > >were also represented by the Motorcycle Industry Council and the
Blue
> Ribbon
> > >Coalition.
> > > The Forest Roads Working Group's Discussion Paper supporting
the
> immediate
> > >implementation of the Roadless Area Conservation Rule singled out
> > >OHV recreation
> > >as a recreational activity destructive of public lands. This
paper
> > >was released
> > >to dialogue invitees two weeks prior to the dialogue. Recreation
> > >representatives
> > >spent considerable time during the first day of the dialogue
correcting
> > >erroneous assertions made by meeting attendees regarding
motorized
> recreation
> > >and the motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle industry.
> > > A written summary of the dialogue exchanges will be compiled
by the
> Meridian
> > >Institute and released for review to dialogue participants.
Counsel for
> the
> > >Forest Roads Working Group indicated the FRWG will meet to
consider
> > >the content
> > >of the dialogue and may revise the Discussion Paper based on the
> information
> > >learned at the dialogue.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Massachusetts Motorcycle Association will file a class
action
> > >suit against
> > >the city of Newburyport, after 230 motorcyclists were issued
excessive
> noise
> > >citations while only three noise complaints were filed by
residents over
> the
> > >last three years.
> > > After reviewing more than 1,500 pages of Police Department
> documents, MMA
> > >Legislative Director Paul Cote said he is questioning whether
> motorcyclists'
> > >civil rights were violated in the city, especially considering
that
> > >some of the
> > >citations were issued without sound metering equipment. Six-
months after
> the
> > >MMA's request for police documents, the state Supervisor of
Public
> Records
> > >ordered the police to release the public documents.
> > > Cote, an Amesbury resident, said they plan to bring a class
action
> lawsuit
> > >against the city for an estimated $150,000 -- the amount in
damages to
> some of
> > >the 230 cited riders over the last three years.
> > > The citation for excessive noise carries a $50 fine, an
> > >increased insurance
> > >premium of 7 percent for six years, and if more than three
citations
> > >are issued,
> > >the loss of a license for 30 days. The city shares 50 percent of
the
> citation
> > >fines collected. Cote said he expects to be in court some time
in January
> or
> > >February.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Coalition for Recreational Trails, a federation of
national and
> regional
> > >trail-related organizations including the American Motorcyclist
> > >Association, has
> > >announced its fifth annual Achievement Awards. The Coalition's
awards
> program
> > >was established to recognize outstanding trail projects funded
by the
> national
> > >Recreational Trails Program (RTP).
> > > The awards will be presented in Washington, D.C. on June 12
during
> Great
> > >Outdoors Week 2003 (June 9-13) as part of the Coalition's
ongoing effort
> to
> > >build awareness and appreciation of the RTP, a highly successful
program
> that
> > >has greatly enhanced the quantity and quality of trail
experiences
> > >available to
> > >the public. The awards ceremony will be held on Capitol Hill and
Members
> of
> > >Congress will be encouraged to join the Coalition in honoring the
> outstanding
> > >achievements of their constituents.
> > > Award winners will be selected from projects nominated by
public
> agencies,
> > >trail administrators or other project sponsors and will reflect
the
> > >diversity of
> > >trail activities that receive RTP funding. To be eligible for
> recognition, a
> > >project must be complete and must have received RTP funding
since 1998.
> Award
> > >categories include: construction and design; maintenance and
> rehabilitation;
> > >education and communication; accessibility enhancement; multiple-
use
> > >management
> > >or "corridor sharing"; environment/wildlife compatibility; and
use of
> youth
> > >conservation/service corps.
> > > The Coalition for Recreational Trails and AMA invites trail
> > >administrators,
> > >agencies and project sponsors to nominate an outstanding project
in
> > >one or more
> > >of the above categories and/or to encourage the sponsor(s) of an
> excellent
> > >project to submit a nomination as well.
> > > Nomination forms are available directly from the Coalition at
(202)
> 682-9530
> > >or arc@f...). The form and any supporting materials, including
> > >pictures, should be sent by March 14, 2003 to Alicia L. Knight,
> Legislative
> > >Counsel, American Horse Council, 1616 H Street, N.W.,
Washington, D.C.
> 20006.
> > >Questions should be directed to Ms. Knight at 202-296-4031 or
via e-mail
> at
> > >Aknight@h... Winners will be notified no later than
> > >April 21, 2003.
> > >
> > >
> > > Texas Department of Agriculture Commissioner Susan Combs in
concert
> with
> > >property, environmental and agricultural interest groups unveiled
> proposed
> > >legislation to prohibit motor vehicle access to the state's
waterways.
> The
> > >legislation being proposed is based on recommendations made by a
> > >Texas Parks and
> > >Wildlife led taskforce of "riverbed stakeholders".
> > > Three separate bills have been introduced to prohibit off-
highway
> vehicle
> > >access to riverbeds. Senate bill 155, introduced by Senator
Judith
> > >Zaffirini (D
> > >? Laredo), and house bill 305, introduced by Representative
Robert Puente
> (D ?
> > >San Antonio) would prohibit the operation motor vehicles in the
> > >"bottom, bed, or
> > >bank of any navigable river or stream". House bill 206, also
introduced
> by
> > >Representative Puente, would grant river authorities the power to
> prohibit
> > >"vehicular access to and use of the beds and banks of the state-
owned
> > >watercourses". All three bills would exempt adjacent upland
property
> owners
> > >from any new vehicular prohibitions.
> > > Senate bill 155 and house bills 206 and 305 are posted on
the
> StateWatch
> > >section of the "Protecting Your Right to Ride" page of
AMADirectLink.com.
> > >Concerned motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle enthusiasts can use
the
> Rapid
> > >Response feature of the website to identify and contact their
state
> > >legislators.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shanghai, China officials, in an effort to reduce air
pollution,
> > >have proposed
> > >to ban all 789,000 motorcycles (55 percent of all traffic) from
> > >operating within
> > >the city.
> > >
> > >
> > > San Francisco, CA Board of Supervisors approved a measure to
try to
> ease
> > >motorcyclists' parking woes in the city. Introduced by Supervisor
> > >Matt Gonzales,
> > >at the request of the San Francisco Motorcycle and Scooter
Coalition, the
> new
> > >law calls for cars to be towed if they're parked in motorcycle
spots. The
> law
> > >also requires city traffic officials to consider designating a
space as
> > >motorcycle parking before making it a no-parking zone.
> > >
> > >
> > > California's Coastal Commission was declared unconstitutional
December
> 30,
> > >2002 by a state appeals court in Sacramento. Among the
commission's many
> > >responsibilities is a yearly review of the conditional use
permit for
> Oceano
> > >Dunes. The commission was found to violate the California
Constitution's
> > >separation of powers provision because eight of its 12 members
are
> > >appointed by
> > >and serve at the pleasure of legislative leaders, even though
> > >commissioners make
> > >mostly executive and judicial decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > New Jersey Assembly Bill 3047 (A3047), sponsored by
Assemblywoman
> > >Connie Myers
> > >(R ? Washington) and Assemblyman Joseph Azzolina (R ?
Middletown),
> authorizes
> > >the Division of Motor Vehicles to issue special veterans'
license plates
> > >designed for motorcycles to honorably discharged veterans. A $15
> > >application fee
> > >would be required in addition to the regular registration fee.
Letters in
> > >support of A3047 should be sent to The Honorable John Wisniewski,
> Chairman,
> > >Assembly Transportation Committee, State House Annex, P.O. Box
068,
> > >Trenton, NJ
> > >08625-0068.
> > >
> > >
> > > South Carolina Senate Bill 32 (S32), introduced by John
Knotts,
> > >Jr. (R - West
> > >Columbia), authorizes a Purple Heart recipient special motor
vehicle
> license
> > >plate for use on motorcycles. Letters of support should be sent
to
> > >The Honorable
> > >W. Greg Ryberg, Chairman, Senate Transportation Committee, 203
> > >Gressette Bldg.,
> > >P.O. Box 142, Columbia, SC 29202.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pennsylvania Assembly Bill 2993 (HB2993), introduced by
> > >Representative Richard
> > >Geist (R ? Altoona), provides for a one-year suspension of
operating
> > >privileges
> > >for certain offenses related to motor vehicles. It also levies a
> > >$500 fine for
> > >those convicted of careless driving. Your letters of support
should be
> sent to
> > >The Honorable Richard Geist, Chairman, House Transportation
Committee,
> Capitol
> > >Bldg., House Box 202020, Harrisburg, PA 17120-2020.
> > >
> > >
> > > Washington State Senator Jim Horn (R-Mercer Island) has been
chosen to
> chair
> > >the Senate Transportation Committee. Senator Horn, a long time
> > >motorcyclist and
> > >HOG member, has been a consistent advocate for motorcyclists
during
> > >his time in
> > >the legislature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carefree, Arizona city officials have adopted ordinance 2002-
14,
> > >revising the
> > >town code to prohibit "Noise of such a character, intensity or
> > >duration as to be
> > >detrimental to the life, health or well-being of any individual,
or to
> > >unreasonably disturb the peace and quiet of a neighborhood,
family or
> person."
> > > This proposed ordinance specifically outlines motor vehicles,
> including
> > >motorcycles, in the arbitrary criteria for enforcement and levy
of fines
> > >starting at $175.00 up to $2,500.00 with 180 days of
imprisonment.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 12
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:26:37 -0000
> > From: "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
> <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > Subject: Wanted Compressor
> >
> > I'm looking for a decent air compressor for my garage to run air
> > tools... I finally am going to break down and buy one, wanted to
see
> > if anyone on the list was selling one before I go out and pick on
> > up! -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:36:44 -0000
> > From: "dadecamp <dadecamp@e...>" <dadecamp@e...>
> > Subject: Land Use Permits
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to this group and fairly new to AZ. I have a trail
> > book, "Arizona Backcountry Adventures". It mentions that permits
> > may be required but does not say where to bet them! It's "Box
> > Canyon" trail is one that it says needs a permit. Where am I
> > suppose to get one and are the an annual permit?
> > Thanks,
> > DAD
> >
> >
> >
>
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74856 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 0:41pm
Subject: [FS] Hardtop and Doors from 1984 CJ7
Price: $550.00 O.B.O
Contact: Tim 480-227-0101
Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7. Hardtop removed from a fairly rusty jeep hailing from the northwest. Top is in good shape, but has rusted all around the latch for the rear window and will need to be replaced if you want to lock the hatch. Both doors have very minor surface rust and one has broken wing window glass.
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74857 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: [FS] Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7
Price: $550.00 O.B.O.
Contact: Tim 480-227-0101
Hardtop and doors from 1984 CJ7. Hardtop removed from a fairly rusty jeep hailing from the northwest. Top is in good shape, but has rusted all around the latch for the rear window and will need to be replaced if you want to lock the hatch. Both doors have very minor surface rust and one has broken wing window glass.
74858 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:17pm
Subject: [FS] WANTED speaker boxes that wedge between the roll bar and wheel well
Price: You tell me ???
Contact: Danny 623-573-6743
I know they are in just about every parts cataloge I have. So someone must have some used ones ??? Thought I would check here first, before buying new ;-)
Danny Mort
74859 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...> <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:24pm
Subject: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
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Service.
74860 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:24pm
Subject: [FS] Super Best Top for 74cj-5
Price: $200
Contact: Neal Han****
This is just the top it's self. The top was only used 3 times before the jeep became a trailer queen. All the windows zip out, this would make a great replacement if your top is bad. I have some of the hardware but not the doors.
480-720-2685
Neal Han****
74861 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:23pm
Subject: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
oooooooooooo!!! YUMMYYYY!!!!!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
Guys,
First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and such usually require the highest cfm rating.
Cheapest is not always best!!!
If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
----- Original Message -----
Product Detail
(Image shown may differ from actual product appearance.)
Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor, Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
$639.99
Sears Item #00916623000
Mfr. Model #VT7610
Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
Features Description
Product Overview:
Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
Portability Stationary
Power Option Powered
Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
General Warranty 3 year limited
Tank:
Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
Compressor Tank Type Vertical
SCFM Delivery:
SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
Good luck,
Shawn
From: onebdjeep
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look around to find the killer deals.
47246-0VGA
GREAT BUY!
2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is complete without one.
110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
115 PSI maximum
4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
8 gallon tank capacity
Oil lubrication
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74862 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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74863 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:11pm
Subject: RE: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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74864 From: onebdjeep <onebdjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
jeff... i can't believe your wife would yell at you! i have never heard of a
wife yelling at her husband. that is rediculous! wait a minute... we ARE too
far from planet perfect. i feel your pain Jeff!!! i really do!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
<tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one for
sale. sorry. <sniff>
----- Original Message -----
From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
one I origionally wanted! -Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
wrote:
> Guys,
> First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> Cheapest is not always best!!!
> If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Product Detail
>
>
> (Image shown may differ from actual product
appearance.)
>
>
>
>
>
> Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
Vertical Tank, 7 hp, Single-Stage Cast-Iron Pump
> $639.99
>
>
> Sears Item #00916623000
> Mfr. Model #VT7610
>
>
>
>
>
> Only $15 per month with your Sears CardŽ.
> Instant Approval Available at Check Out.
>
>
>
> Features Description
> Product Overview:
> Stationary Tank Compressor Type Single Stage Compressor
>
> Portability Stationary
>
> Power Option Powered
>
> Item Weight 375.0 lbs.
>
> General Warranty 3 year limited
>
> Tank:
> Compressor Tank Capacity 60 gal.
>
> Maximum Compressor psi 135 psi
>
> Compressor Tank Type Vertical
>
> SCFM Delivery:
> SCFM Delivery At 40 psi 15.6 SCFM
>
> SCFM Delivery At 90 psi 13.7 SCFM
>
>
>
> I can't vouch for the name, but the CFM ratings look good!!!!
>
> Good luck,
> Shawn
>
> From: onebdjeep
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 10:19 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> I got an add the other day from Harbor Freight. Here is a "Great
Buy" as they say it. I'm not sure though. I'm just starting to look
around to find the killer deals.
>
> 47246-0VGA
>
>
>
> GREAT BUY!
>
>
> 2 HP, 115 PSI, 8 GALLON AIR COMPRESSOR
> Reg. $149.99 SALE $109.99
>
>
> Powerful and portable, this workhorse supplies all the air you
need for air tools. At this affordable price no home or workshop is
complete without one.
>
> a.. 110V, 60 Hz, 3360 RPM
> b.. 115 PSI maximum
> c.. 4.2 CFM @ 90 PSI
> d.. 3.7 CFM @ 115 PSI
> e.. 8 gallon tank capacity
> f.. Oil lubrication
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
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74865 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...> <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
I don't think so, in an earlier post it was stated you had to come
out the same way you came it. Lower Tax Collector(you can bail out
at the mid point before starting upper), where firebird and tax
colletor meet you can bail out and run up along the ridge above the
trails.
I just can't picture where this trail is, but I really want to know.
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
wrote:
>
> I wonder if this is what some people call lower tax collector.
After leaving
> appetizer and heading north on the dirt trail, there is a drop
that the dirt
> road takes through the wash to continue onto firebird. If you turn
left into
> the wash there, instead of going straight. And follow the wash you
run into
> this trail (I have heard it called lower tax collector and lower
firebird).
> The only reason I even mention it is because its about 1/2 mile
south of the
> entrance to firebird. and the first obstacle is a v waterfall like
what was
> said in the earlier posts.
> It is basically the same wash that firebird is in and you can exit
at the
> start of firebird. Is this the scorpion trail?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> >To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>,"jpclub"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
> >
> >
> >It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> >beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> >out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> >From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> >To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it at
> >the whitetanks?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Frank
> >BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> >it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> >interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> >White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> >area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun.
Meet at
> >Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
> > >
> > >BIGJP ettrans@m...
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74866 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...> <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:34pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Stolen! 1948 Willy's Flat Fender
The picture did not come through.
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>
74867 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:45pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted - Factory zipper style upper soft doors for a TJ
Price: ??
Contact: jeeperinaz@azbackcountry.com
Looking for upper soft doors that will fit a TJ. Can't use glass sliders since the doors are diamond plate style.
Chris Benner
74868 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Air Compressor for Rob
DANG! Must be one'0 them thar DEMOCRATS! (Quick boy, git a stick an whop it
one!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Trujillo, Jeff"
<jeff.trujillo@m...>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> jeff... i can't believe your wife would yell at you! i have never heard of
a
> wife yelling at her husband. that is rediculous! wait a minute... we ARE
too
> far from planet perfect. i feel your pain Jeff!!! i really do!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:11 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> quit yelling at us :o) we get enough of that from our wives :o( LOL sorry
> for the OT posts that side tracked your original post.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Field Service Representative
> MD Helicopters, Inc.
> jeff.trujillo@m...
> Voice:(480)346-6249
> Fax:(480)346-6813
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: onebdjeep [mailto:onebdjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; g_rob_williams@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> <tail between the leg peeing all over the place> no... i don't have one
for
> sale. sorry. <sniff>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 2:24 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Air Compressor for Rob
>
>
> Okay we are waaaaaayyyy off my subject.... I was asking if anyone
> was selling a compressor before I buy one at the store this weekend.
> I know what I am going to buy, I didn't need advice from everyone as
> to which one to get. We all got kinda side tracked by all the posts
> on the thread that weren't on topic... sorry if I sound like a prick
> or something but it's a little annoying when I ask if anyone is
> selling something, and I get 20 people telling me what to buy, half
> of them assuming I am going to buy the "WRONG" compressor. Anyway
> I'll assume nobody has one for sale and I'll just start pricing the
> one I origionally wanted! -Rob
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Shawn Passmore" <smpassmore@e...>
> wrote:
> > Guys,
> > First thing you need to do when you are looking for an air
> compressor, is go and look at what type of tools you will be running
> with it!! Diffrent tools require diffrent cfm ratings. Sanders and
> such usually require the highest cfm rating.
> > Cheapest is not always best!!!
> > If you have room, and $$$$$$ go get a :
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Product Detail
> >
> >
> > (Image shown may differ from actual product
> appearance.)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Campbell Hausfeld 60 gal. Air Compressor,
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74869 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 1:59pm
Subject: RE: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
OK OK here it is. If you have been out there you know there is a power
line that runs north and south (generally). If you know where Tax
collector is that is the main trail wash. Because Tax Collector turns
into Firebird then Firebird turns into Ruler, same wash. The power line
pretty much runs on top this wash. Now remember where you enter Tax
Collector? If you look SSW up a large hill you will see a power pole on
the peak. That is the direction you want to head for Intimidator because
the power line runs on the left side of this wash as you head south. Be
careful in this area as I have noticed a few wild cat exits created on
this trail.
Now you want to know where Scorpion is?? Ok but remember this is a NO
EXIT trail. You have to go out the way you came in, but I think there is
relief for the first waterfall. The trail that crosses Tax Collector and
Firebird takes you over a small hill and toward a "pass" to the back
side of the White Tanks. Well you go over that hill and about a 1/4 to
1/2 mile you cross a large wash, go north in the wash and boom your on
Scorpion.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 1:02 PM
To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
I wonder if this is what some people call lower tax collector. After
leaving
appetizer and heading north on the dirt trail, there is a drop that the
dirt
road takes through the wash to continue onto firebird. If you turn left
into
the wash there, instead of going straight. And follow the wash you run
into
this trail (I have heard it called lower tax collector and lower
firebird).
The only reason I even mention it is because its about 1/2 mile south of
the
entrance to firebird. and the first obstacle is a v waterfall like what
was
said in the earlier posts.
It is basically the same wash that firebird is in and you can exit at
the
start of firebird. Is this the scorpion trail?
>From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>,"jpclub"
><az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
>Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
>
>
>It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall at
>beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn around
come
>out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
>From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
>To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
>
>
>I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where abouts is
>it at
>the whitetanks?
>
>Thanks
>
>Frank
>BadAzXJ@m...
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Edward Timmsen
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> >To: Joey@d...
> >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but never
> >made
>it up though the BIG V-notch
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: DesertJeep
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area might
> > be
>interesting with all this rain.
> >
> >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west side of
> >the
>White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a small
>play
>area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> >
> >Joey K
> >93YJ
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> >To: jpclub
> >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet at
>Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
> >
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74870 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> <tomasr@a...>
Date: Thu Jan 9, 2003 2:04pm
Subject: Re: Wheel Studs
I'm assuming rear drums here. If you have a Dana 44, simply pull the
wheel and drum, use a box wrench to take the 4 nuts of the studs
holding the wheel bearing retainer plate in position, and then slide
the axle out. Now you have easy access to the studs.
If you have a Dana 35, then you can certainly open the diff and
remove the c-clips and do what ever else is necessary to slide the
axles out. But I'd try replacing the studs with the axles in the
housing WITHOUT drilling holes in the backing plates.
My preferred way to replace wheel studs is to press them out/in. But
I know others have had success using a BFH. You could probably pound
the old studs out with a hammer and then press in new studs using one
of those Harbor Freight u-joint tools if there's enough room to get
it around the back side of the axle flange (might have to remove a
brake shoe.
I have one of the Harbor Freight u-joint tools and that's what I've
used to press wheel studs in/out of my axles. Works like a charm.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Ruben Aviles" <raviles@a...> wrote:
> I'm going to attempt to replace some wheel studs at home tonight.
Does
> anyone know any special tricks for doing this? Is there enough
room to get
> the new ones in without having to drill a hole through the backing
plate on
> the brake? any suggestions would be helpful.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 8:54 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 3188
>
>
> > There are 25 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in this digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > 2. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > 3. Re: Re: Troy and Sharky comparing......... OUCH!
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > 4. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > 5. [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, January 11, 2003 -
Reminder
> > From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> > 6. Fwd: Action Alert - Healthy Forests Initiative -
Rulemaking
> Comments
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 7. Fwd: CHMN. POMBO - Prop. Rights VICTORY!
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 8. Fwd: New suit challenges air rules in parks snowmobiles
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 9. Fwd: [Faunkybroncys] FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT
TORTOISE
> RECOVERY
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 10. Fwd: West Mojave Management Plan Update
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 11. Fwd: News & Notes for the Politically Motivated
Motorcyclists
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 12. Wanted Compressor
> > From: "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
> <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > 13. Land Use Permits
> > From: "dadecamp <dadecamp@e...>"
> <dadecamp@e...>
> > 14. Re: Wanted Compressor
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 15. Re: Land Use Permits
> > From: "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...>
> > 16. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "blt4rox <blt4rox@e...>" <blt4rox@e...>
> > 17. Fwd: WALL: Fw: GOODLATTE ELECTED CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE
> AGRICULTURE COMMITTEE
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > 18. RE: Needed one Rear Shock tower post.
> > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > 19. Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 20. Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
> > 21. RE: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
> > 22. Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 23. RE: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > 24. Re: Air Compressor for Rob
> > From: "onebdjeep" <onebdjeep@c...>
> > 25. RE: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> > From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 04:24:03 -0700
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it
> at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet
at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
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> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:49:55 -0700
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > 2 waterfalls? 1st one is pretty steep, not too bad, 2nd maybe a
little
> steeper but not so high... around the corner from there is the can
opener i
> believe... I never went through _it_... my buddies have had some
carnage
> on that one :) The waterfalls are fun... it was my jeeps "maiden
run"
> after i did the long arm and 38 1/2"s... Have fun!
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edward Timmsen
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona ; jpclub
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big
waterfall at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is
> it at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying
but never
> made it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That
area might
> be interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the
west side of
> the White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in
a small
> play area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles
out
> there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun.
Meet at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
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> > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 10:59:38 -0700
> > From: "Nick" <NickG@4...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Troy and Sharky comparing......... OUCH!
> >
> > Well they shouldnt have a problem learning how to "roll over"
> hahahahah!!!!
> > Have a good day! *knock on wood*
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> > To: <MSA12171@a...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Troy and Sharky comparing.........
> >
> >
> > > All I can say is at least they would be offroad puppies...not
pavement
> > > puppies. ooops, did I say that? Not that you drive a pavement
pounder
> or
> > > anything Mike hahaha Id put ya up against any H2 out
there. :)~
> > >
> > > Sharky
> > >
> > > << Are you sure you want THOSE puppies??? Do you realize who
the
> > > parents will be? Talk about a spoiled litter. I can't even
imagine
> > > what they'd look like. ;)
> > >
> > > Mike Anderson >>
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> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 05:59:04 -0700
> > From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > Subject: Re: Fw: White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > Scorpion is about 2-1/2 miles from trail with can opener, can't
remember
> name of that trail
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:49 AM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; jpclub; Edward Timmsen
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> > 2 waterfalls? 1st one is pretty steep, not too bad, 2nd maybe a
little
> steeper but not so high... around the corner from there is the can
opener i
> believe... I never went through _it_... my buddies have had some
carnage
> on that one :) The waterfalls are fun... it was my jeeps "maiden
run"
> after i did the long arm and 38 1/2"s... Have fun!
> >
> > Nick
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Edward Timmsen
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona ; jpclub
> > Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 4:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is just down road from Firebird about 1/2 mile, Big waterfall
at
> beginning, no out, trail about 1 to 1-1/4 mile long then turn
around come
> out the way you came. The big fall fun to come down
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:37 PM
> > To: ettrans@m...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> >
> >
> > I might be game. I havent heard of this trail before. Where
abouts is it
> at the whitetanks?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Frank
> > BadAzXJ@m...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Edward Timmsen" <ettrans@m...>
> > >To: "jpclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: Fw: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 22:57:46 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:54 PM
> > >To: Joey@d...
> > >Subject: Re: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >Probably, Big sand wash and huge waterfall, was fun trying but
never made
> it up though the BIG V-notch
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: DesertJeep
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:27 PM
> > >To: 'Edward Timmsen'
> > >Subject: RE: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > > I may show to watch if you have a few joining you. That area
might be
> interesting with all this rain.
> > >
> > >BTW I was out with my neighbor last Sunday exploring the west
side of the
> White Tanks. Those wouldn't happen to be your tracks we saw in a
small play
> area in a large wash would they? We saw some decent obstacles out
there.
> > >
> > >Joey K
> > >93YJ
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Edward Timmsen [mailto:ettrans@m...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
> > >To: jpclub
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] White Tanks on Sun.
> > >
> > >
> > >Want to know if anybody wants to run Scorpion trail on sun. Meet
at
> Miller rd. at I-10 around 9:00am
> > >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 14:11:20 (GMT)
> > From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
> > Subject: [TR] Technical Workshop - Saturday, January 11, 2003 -
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:00:47 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: Action Alert - Healthy Forests Initiative -
Rulemaking
> Comments
> >
> > The below request for action has some important implications for
> > recreation and property rights. The Health Forests Initiative
will
> > ensure that forests are managed and not left to be tinder boxes
for
> > the types of devastating wildfires fires experienced the past few
> > years.
> >
> > It will ensure we do have forests to enjoy.
> >
> > Please take a couple of minutes and help support the Healthy
Forest
> Initiative.
> >
> > ************************************************
> >
> > Chris West, Vice President
> > American Forest Resource Council
> > 503-222-9505
> > 503-222-3255 (F)
> > <mailto:cwest@a...>cwest@a...
> > <http://www.afrc.ws>www.afrc.ws
> >
> >
> >
> > January 8, 2003
> >
> > TO: AFRC Members and Friends
> >
> > FROM: Tom Partin
> >
> > RE: Urgent Action Required - Comments on Bush's
> > Healthy Forests Initiative
> >
> > Earlier this week you were sent an Action Alert regarding comments
> > needed on President Bush's Healthy Forests Initiative. Improving
the
> > health of our forests to reduce the risk of insects, diseases and
> > catastrophic wildfires is a top priority for President Bush. His
> > proposals will modernize regulations clearing the way for
responsible
> > management that focuses on protecting forests, watersheds,
wildlife
> > and communities. Your comment letters, as well as your
employees',
> > that express support for the changes President Bush is proposing
are
> > critically important.
> >
> > Response to date has been extremely disappointing; with just one
> > hundred individuals sending emails to the respective agency
> > officials. Noteworthy is the fact that Erickson Air Crane has had
> > great participation, followed by Boise and Sierra Pacific
Industries.
> > While the latter two companies have about a dozen participants,
given
> > the size of their operations there is still a lot more potential.
> >
> > We have made it easy for you and your employees to support the
> > President's Healthy Forests Initiative, you can either
> > <http://capwiz.com/landsense/issues/alert/?
alertid=1157026&type=CU>Click
> > Here or visit AFRC's website at <http://www.afrc.ws/>www.afrc.ws
and
> > the 'click & send' comment emails can be found under Public
> > Comment.
> >
> > For your employees that do not have Internet access, several other
> > forms of comment such as petitions and postcards are available.
For
> > more information, contact AFRC's Portland office at 503-222-9505.
> >
> > Remember, in his decision to stand with us and address the forest
> > health crisis, President Bush has loaned us his own good name and
all
> > of the power that comes with his office. But he needs our strong
> > support to put his Healthy Forests Initiative on a firm and
lasting
> > foundation.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:07:53 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: CHMN. POMBO - Prop. Rights VICTORY!
> >
> > There has been speculation as to the new Chairman of the House
> > Resources Committee. And the winner is......
> >
> >
> > POMBO NAMED CHAIRMAN: PROPERTY RIGHTS VICTORY !
> >
> > American Land Rights Association
> > 30218 NE 82nd Avenue, Battle Ground, WA 98604
> > 360-687-3087, fax 360-687-2973
> >
> > January 8, 2002
> > Contact: Mike Hardiman
> > 202-210-2357
> >
> > WASHINGTON, DC - Advocates of private property rights are
jubilant at
> > the selection of Representative Richard Pombo (R-CA) to be
Chairman
> > of the House of Representatives Committee on Resources.
> >
> > Pombo was named Chairman today by the Republican leadership, which
> > makes committee assignments and names chairmen. The Resources
> > committee has jurisdiction over a wide range of issues vitally
> > important to private property rights and use of the public lands,
> > including agencies within the Interior Department, the Endangered
> > Species Act, water, timber, mining and fisheries management.
> >
> > Here is what some leaders of the property rights movement had to
say:
> >
> > "Richard Pombo is straight from the grassroots. He has been there
> > for us time and time again in Congress, from adding common sense
to
> > the Endangered Species Act to stopping attempted land grab
> > legislation to promoting multiple use of federal lands. With
Richard
> > Pombo as chairman, everyone will be heard from and the grassroots
> > will have a seat at the table."
> > Chuck Cushman, American Land Rights Association
> > Battle Ground, Washington
> > 360-607-3312 (cell) <http://www.landrights.org>www.landrights.org
> >
> > "Representative Pombo has proven his awareness of issues that
> > property owners face across the country, East and West. He has
stood
> > up for farmers in the mid-west, forest owners in the northeast,
and
> > ranchers in the far west."
> > Carol LaGrasse, Property Rights Foundation of America
> > Stony Creek, New York
> > 518-696-5748 <http://www.prfamerica.org>www.prfamerica.org
> >
> > "Richard Pombo understands how far the federal government has over
> > reached into the lives of the average American, with no benefit
for
> > people or the environment, just the bureaucracy. I believe he
will
> > work toward restoring a balance. He has earned the chairmanship
and
> > deserves the opportunity."
> > Henry Lamb, Eco-Logic Foundation
> > Hollow Rock, Tennessee
> > 731-986-0099 <http://www.freedom.org>www.freedom.org
> >
> > "This is the most exciting news that private land owners and
resource
> > producers have had in ten years. We know first-hand from
experiences
> > that range from Klamath Falls, Oregon to Dade County, Florida that
> > Mr. Pombo stands for the rights of small property owners."
> > G. B. Oliver, Paragon Foundation
> > Alamogordo, New Mexico
> > 505-434-8998
<http://www.paragonpowerhouse.org>www.paragonpowerhouse.org
> >
> > "Richard Pombo has always been a staunch advocate for us. I am
very
> > excited about his taking the chairmanship because he believes in
the
> > Fifth Amendment in the same way our founding fathers did."
> > Patricia Bradburn, Virginians for Property Rights
> > Catharpin, Virginia
> > 703-754-7900 <mailto:Pbradburn@e...>Pbradburn@e...
> >
> > "We have a long history of working with Richard Pombo, and are
> > delighted that he is chairman. This is great news for advocates
of
> > recreational access to our nation's public lands."
> > Clark Collins, Blue Ribbon Coalition (off-road recreation access)
> > Pocatello, Idaho
> > 208-237-1008 <http://www.sharetrails.org>www.sharetrails.org
> >
> > The American Land Rights Association, founded in 1977, is a
> > nationwide, grassroots organization. Members include farmers,
> > ranchers, woodlot owners, inholders of private property
surrounded by
> > public lands, cabin permitees and other small landowners
supporting
> > private property rights and multiple use of the federal lands.
> >
> > END
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:15:25 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: New suit challenges air rules in parks snowmobiles
> >
> > A point to ponder:
> >
> > Snowmobile engines = Personal Water Craft engines = ATV engines
> >
> > and are close to motorcycle engines.
> >
> > Expectations are the environmental organizations will be
increasing
> > the number of lawsuits filed. The BlueRibbon Coalition has been
> > deeply involved with the snowmobile issue for a number of years.
> > Please support their Legal Defense Fund. (www.sharetrails.org)
> >
> > >
> >
> ><http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?
display=rednews/2003/01/09/build/
> wyoming/a-snomosuit.inc>http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?
display=red
> news/2003/01/09/build/wyoming/a-snomosuit.inc
> > >
> > >New suit challenges air rules in parks
> > >
> > >By MIKE STARK
> > >Gazette Wyoming Bureau
> > >
> > >Environmental groups have filed a lawsuit charging that the
federal
> > >government went too easy on snowmobile manufacturers in new
> > >pollution standards approved in November.
> > >
> > >Bluewater Network and Environmental Defense say the Environmental
> > >Protection Agency violated the federal Clean Air Act by not
> > >requiring snowmobiles to meet emission standards that are
achievable
> > >by today's technology.
> > >
> > >"They are not following the law," said Sean Smith of Bluewater
Network.
> > >
> > >For the first time ever, the EPA in early November established
> > >limits on how much pollution will be allowed from snowmobiles.
The
> > >new rules say snowmobiles will have to run 30 percent cleaner
within
> > >four years and meet tougher standards in 2010 and 2012.
> > >
> > >
> > >The regulations are part of a larger movement within the EPA to
> > >reign in pollution from off-road vehicles and large industrial
> > >engines.
> > >
> > >Smith said the Clean Air Act mandates that federal emission
> > >standards achieve the greatest degree of reduction based on
> > >currently available technology.
> > >
> > >Most snowmobile manufacturers are already producing four-stroke
> > >engines that reduce pollution by up to 95 percent. Smith said the
> > >EPA should have required that snowmobiles meet that standard.
> > >
> > >"The technology is already in the dealerships," he said. "We
> > >definitely think the time frame should be moved up."
> > >
> > >The EPA was on the brink of approving tougher standards before
the
> > >Bush administration took office, Smith said.
> > >
> > >"I think they're under heavy political pressure to pacify the
> > >industry," Smith said.
> > >
> > >Hours after the environmental groups filed suit in Washington,
D.C.,
> > >federal court, the International Snowmobile Manufacturers
> > >Association filed legal papers to make sure industry is involved
in
> > >any legal action on the emissions standards.
> > >
> > >Ed Klim, president of the ISMA, said the "environmental
extremists"
> > >are simply trying to derail EPA's "ambitious standards and
> > >aggressive schedule that were based on good science."
> > >
> > >He said the snowmobile industry is feeling the crunch of the new
> > >emission standards but believes they will be able to meet the
> > >schedule established by EPA.
> > >
> > >"It's really a pretty tight time frame compared to other
vehicles," Klim
> said.
> > >
> > >The 2003 snowmobile models are finished and 2004 models are under
> > >way. Eliminating emissions for the 2006 models will be tough,
Klim
> > >said. "When you build vehicles, two years is not much lead time.
We
> > >also have to work in the marketplace to convince people to buy
them."
> > >
> > >As the environmental groups' lawsuit progresses, Klim said he
wants
> > >the snowmobile industry to be given every opportunity to respond
to
> > >claims that might be raised in court.
> > >
> > >"We want to be at the table for every meeting, not every other
> > >meeting," Klim said.
> > >
> > >Cathy Milbourn, an EPA spokeswoman in Washington, D.C., said she
> > >couldn't respond to the environmental groups' lawsuit because the
> > >EPA hasn't seen it yet.
> > >
> > >But she reaffirmed the EPA's stance that the new emissions
> > >standards, when they are fully implemented, will remove more
than 2
> > >million tons of pollution from the air every year - the
equivalent
> > >of removing 32 million cars from the road.
> > >
> > >Even though some snowmobile makers are already producing cleaner
> > >machines, Milbourn said the EPA wanted to give the industry time
to
> > >conform to stricter emissions limitations.
> > >
> > >"The idea is to provide a reasonable amount of time for the
industry
> > >to comply with the rule," she said.
> > >
> > >Although the new emissions rules will apply to snowmobiles across
> > >the nation, the machines will have to meet tougher standards
under a
> > >new proposal to allow machines into Yellowstone and Grand Teton
> > >national parks, according to park officials.
> > >
> > >The plan, which could be approved later this year, would be
phased
> > >in over upcoming winters.
> > >
> > >
> > >Mike Stark can be reached at (307) 527-7250 or at
> > ><mailto:mstark@b...>mstark@b...
> > >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:41:38 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: [Faunkybroncys] FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT
TORTOISE
> RECOVERY
> >
> > This legal action is in response to the recent GAO report
critical of
> > the USFWS and BLM efforts concerning the Desert Tortoise.
> >
> > These organizations need your support:
> >
> > AMA D-37 - http://www.district37ama.org/home.html
> > California Off Road Vehicle Association (CORVA) -
http://www.corva.org/
> > Off Road Business Association (ORBA) - http://www.orbanet.org/
> > San Diego Off Road Vehicle Association (SDORC) -
http://www.sdorc.org/
> >
> >
> > FEDERAL AGENCIES FAIL IN DESERT TORTOISE RECOVERY
> >
> > 1/8/03 San Diego. Public land access advocates served a notice
of
> > intent to sue to federal agencies on Wednesday charging that the
U.S.
> > Department of Interior, and its two subordinate agencies, the
United
> > Fish & Wildlife Service (USFWS) and the Bureau of Land Management
> > (BLM) have knowingly and negligently impeded the recovery of the
> > desert tortoise since its listing as "threatened" in 1989.
> > The four organizations, primarily off road groups, claim that the
> > DOI, USFWS and BLM have failed to take reasonable steps to arrest
the
> > spread of Upper Respiratory Tract Disease (URTD), which is
suspected
> > to be the primary cause of dramatic declines in desert tortoise
> > populations. The action also cites the agencies' failure to
properly
> > monitor the recovery efforts, and claim the agencies have ignored
the
> > growing body of science that indicates URTD, along with raven
> > predation, are driving the species rapidly toward extinction
> > throughout the deserts of California, Arizona, Nevada and Utah.
> > This action also follows the release of a report from the General
> > Accounting Office (GAO), which indicates that federal government
has
> > spent over $100 million in the last 12 years trying to protect the
> > tortoise; with little or no evidence these efforts have made any
> > difference.
> > "The DOI efforts to recover the desert tortoise have been an
abject
> > failure.," states David P. Hubbard an environmental attorney who
> > filed the notice. "Millions of dollars have been expended, and
> > millions of acres of federal land have been closed off to public
use;
> > yet the tortoise continues to spiral towards extinction."
> > The filing will heat up the battle between recreationists and
those
> > who want to close the desert to off-road vehicles and campers.
> > Since 1994, millions of acres of public lands have been closed off
> > from motorized access, making over 14% of California inaccessible
to
> > the public.
> > "The federal agencies are being driven to closure decisions by
> > environmental lawsuits, and fail to consider the science or
> > economical impact of the communities that are affected.," states
> > Michelle Cassella of AMA D-37 Sports Committee, the lead
organization
> > in the action. "Recent studies funded in part by off road
interests
> > clearly indicate that in many cases the public has little or no
> > impact on threatened species. Ironically, it is the trails and
> > highways in the desert that provide barriers for disease
transmission
> > among tortoise populations."
> > Other plaintiffs in the action include the California Off Road
> > Vehicle Association (CORVA), Off Road Business Association (ORBA),
> > and the San Diego Off Road Vehicle Association (SDORC).
> >
> > David Hubbard is an environmental and land use attorney with the
firm
> > of Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch, LLP located in San Diego,
> > CA. He represents public land advocates who have filed the 60 Day
> > Notice of Intent to Sue. (760) 496-0776
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 07:48:53 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: West Mojave Management Plan Update
> >
> >
> > KERN AND SAN BERNARDINO COUNTIES TO HOLD SCOPING MEETINGS
> >
> > Bakersfield:
> > January 9, 2003
> > 2:00 - 4:00 p.m.
> > Kern County Public Services Building
> > 2700 M" Street
> > Bakersfield, California
> > Point of Contact: Lorelei Oviatt, (661) 862-8866
> >
> > Ridgecrest:
> > January 10, 2003
> > 9:00 - 11:00 a.m.
> > City of Ridgecrest Council Chambers
> > 100 W. California Avenue
> > Ridgecrest, California
> > Point of Contact: Lorelei Oviatt, (661) 862-8866
> >
> > San Bernardino:
> > January 16, 2003
> > 7:00 - 9:00 p.m.
> > San Bernardino County Museum
> > 2024 Orange Tree Lane
> > San Bernardino, California
> > Point of Contact: Randy Scott, (909) 387-4147
> >
> >
> > The BLM held a series of scoping meetings for the West
Mojave Plan
> > (WMP) in early 2002. At that time it wasn't clear whether the
scope of the
> > project would require evaluation under the provisions of the
California
> > Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). It has now been determined
that the
> > development of a programmatic Environmental Impact Report (EIR) is
> required
> > for compliance with the CEQA guidelines. Because the Counties of
Kern and
> > San Bernardino represent the largest implementation areas covered
by the
> > WMP, they will serve as Co-Lead Agencies in the development of
the EIR.
> > The initial step involved in developing the EIR is to
determine the
> > scope of the potential impacts and issues that should be
addressed in the
> > environmental document by holding public meetings to seek input
from
> > stakeholders including responsible agencies, other key agencies,
> > organizations, private property owners, and interested
individuals. Thus,
> > a series of public scoping meetings will be held by the Kern
County
> > Planning Department and the San Bernardino County Land Use
Services
> > Department.
> > The Draft EIR is scheduled for release in the spring of
2003. When
> > completed, the Final EIR, will assess the environmental impacts
of a
> > proposed action and a range of reasonable alternatives (including
a "no
> > action" alternative). Availability of the Draft EIR for public
review and
> > comment will be announced and noticed in the local media.
> > The WMP involves the management of 3.6 million acres of
public land
> > administered by the BLM and 2.8 million acres of private
property. The
> WMP
> > is being prepared collaboratively with local, state, and federal
agencies
> > with intent that the WMP serve as a habitat conservation plan
(HCP) for
> the
> > area. The HCP which will facilitate the issuance of programmatic
> > incidental take permits by the California Department of Fish and
Game and
> > the United States Fish and Wildlife Service to participating
cities,
> > counties, and private property owners. Included in the HCP are
> > conservation strategies for the desert tortoise, Mojave ground
squirrel,
> > and other sensitive desert plants and animals. Also included in
the HCP
> > are motorized vehicle road use designations on public lands in
the region,
> > as well as multiple use issues such as livestock grazing, mining,
cultural
> > resources and recreation.
> > Information regarding the West Mojave Plan is available on
the
> > Internet at http://www.ca.blrn.gov/cdd/wemo.htrnl or from Kern or
San
> > Bernardino County planning departments.
> > Written comments regarding this ER can be mailed directly
to the
> > counties at the addresses provided below. Because of time limits
mandated
> > by state law, comments must be received at the earliest possible
date but
> > no later than January 25, 2002
> >
> > Kern County Planning Department
> > Attention: Lorelei Oviatt
> > Public Services Building
> > 2700 'M' Street, Suite 100
> > Bakersfield, CA 93301-2370
> >
> > County of San Bernardino
> > Land Use Services Department
> > Attention: Randy Scott
> > 385 North Arrowhead Avenue
> > San Bernardino, CA 92415-0182
> >
> >
> >
> > This information is provided by Ron Schiller, Chairman, High
Desert
> > Multiple Use Coalition. As usual, please feel free to pass this
informa
> > tion on to any other interested parties. Anyone wishing to
receive future
> > information regarding issues related to the management of public
lands in
> > the California Desert should send an e-mail to schiller@r...
> > and request to be placed on the distribution list. Please
print "PLEASE
> > ADD TO LIST" in the subject line.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2003 08:10:21 -0800
> > From: John Stewart <landuse@u...>
> > Subject: Fwd: News & Notes for the Politically Motivated
Motorcyclists
> >
> > > February 2003
> > >
> > >News & Notes for the Politically Motivated Motorcyclists is a
monthly
> service
> > >compiled and edited by the AMA Government Relations Staff to keep
> > >motorcyclists
> > >informed of happenings around the world. We welcome your news &
views.
> Please
> > >submit all material to Terry Lee Cook, Government Relations
Specialist,
> 13515
> > >Yarmouth Drive, Pickerington, OH 43147; fax 614-856-1920 or e-
mail to
> > >tcook@a...
> > >
> > >
> > > Colorado Off-Highway Vehicle Coalition (COHVCO) filed a
notice of
> > >appeal of a
> > >federal district court decision which allowed the US Forest
Service
> > >to restrict
> > >motorized travel on 217,000 acres of the Routt National Forest to
> designated
> > >roads and trails without first taking an inventory and
designating
> > >open trails.
> > >COHVCO's case, originally filed in the district court in June of
> > >1999, will now
> > >go up to the Tenth Circuit Federal Court of Appeals in Denver.
> > > At the district court, COHVCO argued that the Forest Service
> > >failed to comply
> > >with the Administrative Procedure Act (APA) and the National
Forest
> Management
> > >Act (NFMA) in its decisions to restrict motorized travel to
> > >designated routes on
> > >the Parks and Yampa Ranger Districts in the Routt National
Forest. The
> Forest
> > >Service originally stated that the restrictions were intended to
close
> > >"illegally constructed or maintained" user-created routes which
had
> > >been created
> > >by riders following the beaten paths of riders before them. After
> > >COHVCO pointed
> > >out that no one had ever actually "constructed" or "maintained"
these
> routes,
> > >the Forest Service then stated that the restrictions were
necessary
> > >to mitigate
> > >"adverse impacts to soil, water, and wildlife." However, the
Forest
> Service
> > >never pointed out just where on the ground these "adverse
impacts" were
> > >occurring.
> > > The Routt National Forest, located in northwestern Colorado
just east
> of
> > >Steamboat Springs, straddles the continental divide and covers
over
> > >1.1 million
> > >acres. The Routt is immensely popular among all types of
recreational
> visitors
> > >due to its varied terrain, incredible beauty, and ease of access
from
> Denver,
> > >Ft. Collins, and other cities on the Front Range. Motorized
recreation
> has
> > >always been one of the Routt's biggest draws.
> > > COHVCO will ask the Tenth Circuit to review the September 30,
2002
> > >decision of
> > >Judge John L. Kane, which said that the Forest Service was not
> > >required to do a
> > >route inventory, and that use of off-highway vehicles could be
restricted
> > >whether or not the Forest Service could prove past or current
conflicts
> or
> > >resource impacts caused by such use.
> > >
> > >
> > > The California Multiple-Use Summit will be held March 22,
2003 in
> > >Sacramento,
> > >CA.
> > > The purpose of this Summit is to bring together
representatives from
> the
> > >entire multiple-use community in order to identify common
problems,
> > >find common
> > >solutions, embark upon unified efforts, and resolve possible
> misunderstandings
> > >between various interest groups. The Summit will focus on
keeping access
> to
> > >lands and resources in California. There are no dues; no
structure; no
> taking
> > >away memberships from anyone; and no political finagling.
> > > All forms of access-oriented enthusiasts are invited,
including but
> not
> > >limited to: four wheelers, equestrians, mountain bikers, metal
detectors,
> ATV
> > >riders, snowmobile riders, off-highway motorcyclists, miners,
ranchers,
> gem
> > >collectors, racers, dune enthusiasts, sand draggers, rock
crawlers, hill
> > >climbers, back country explorers, hikers, etc.
> > > For more information go to www.delalbright.com/summit.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Road Causalities Great Britain, just published by the
Department of
> > >Transport, shows that the number of people killed on British
roads rose
> from
> > >3,409 in 2000 to 3,443 in 2001 despite the rabid increase of
speed
> monitoring
> > >cameras across the English countryside.
> > >
> > >
> > > American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) government
relations staff
> > >participated in the Forest Roads Working Group dialogue held
> > >December 3-4, 2002
> > >in Arlington, Virginia.
> > > The Forest Roads Working Group (FRWG) is comprised of national
> conservation
> > >organizations including: The Izaak Walton League of America,
Wildlife
> Forever,
> > >Wildlife Management Institute, The Wildlife Society, Trout
Unlimited,
> Outdoor
> > >Industry Association, Pinchot Institute for Conservation, and
> International
> > >Paper (all advocating for implementation of the Clinton era
Roadless Area
> > >Conservation Rule).
> > > The dialogue, facilitated by the Meridian Institute under
contract
> with the
> > >FRWG, was attended by 50 representatives of conservation, timber
and
> timber
> > >product organizations, American Hiking Society, western states
> > >officials as well
> > >as Forest Service Chief Bosworth, Mark Rey, David Tenny, David
Barone and
> Gail
> > >Kimball also of the Forest Service. Staff from both the Senate
Public
> Lands &
> > >Forests Subcommittee and House Forests & Forest Health
Subcommittee
> > >attended for
> > >the majority of the meeting. In addition to AMA, motorized
> > >recreation interests
> > >were also represented by the Motorcycle Industry Council and the
Blue
> Ribbon
> > >Coalition.
> > > The Forest Roads Working Group's Discussion Paper supporting
the
> immediate
> > >implementation of the Roadless Area Conservation Rule singled out
> > >OHV recreation
> > >as a recreational activity destructive of public lands. This
paper
> > >was released
> > >to dialogue invitees two weeks prior to the dialogue. Recreation
> > >representatives
> > >spent considerable time during the first day of the dialogue
correcting
> > >erroneous assertions made by meeting attendees regarding
motorized
> recreation
> > >and the motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle industry.
> > > A written summary of the dialogue exchanges will be compiled
by the
> Meridian
> > >Institute and released for review to dialogue participants.
Counsel for
> the
> > >Forest Roads Working Group indicated the FRWG will meet to
consider
> > >the content
> > >of the dialogue and may revise the Discussion Paper based on the
> information
> > >learned at the dialogue.
> > >
> > >
> > > The Massachusetts Motorcycle Association will file a class
action
> > >suit against
> > >the city of Newburyport, after 230 motorcyclists were issued
excessive
> noise
> > >citations while only three noise complaints were filed by
residents over
> the
> > >last three years.
> > > After reviewing more than 1,500 pages of Police Department
> documents, MMA
> > >Legislative Director Paul Cote said he is questioning whether
> motorcyclists'
> > >civil rights were violated in the city, especially considering
that
> > >some of the
> > >citations were issued without sound metering equipment. Six-
months after
> the
> > >MMA's request for police documents, the state Supervisor of
Public
> Records
> > >ordered the police to release the public documents.
> > > Cote, an Amesbury resident, said they plan to bring a class
action
> lawsuit
> > >against the city for an estimated $150,000 -- the amount in
damages to
> some of
> > >the 230 cited riders over the last three years.
> > > The citation for excessive noise carries a $50 fine, an
> > >increased insurance
> > >premium of 7 percent for six years, and if more than three
citations
> > >are issued,
> > >the loss of a license for 30 days. The city shares 50 percent of
the
> citation
> > >fines collected. Cote said he expects to be in court some time
in January
> or
> > >February.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Coalition for Recreational Trails, a federation of
national and
> regional
> > >trail-related organizations including the American Motorcyclist
> > >Association, has
> > >announced its fifth annual Achievement Awards. The Coalition's
awards
> program
> > >was established to recognize outstanding trail projects funded
by the
> national
> > >Recreational Trails Program (RTP).
> > > The awards will be presented in Washington, D.C. on June 12
during
> Great
> > >Outdoors Week 2003 (June 9-13) as part of the Coalition's
ongoing effort
> to
> > >build awareness and appreciation of the RTP, a highly successful
program
> that
> > >has greatly enhanced the quantity and quality of trail
experiences
> > >available to
> > >the public. The awards ceremony will be held on Capitol Hill and
Members
> of
> > >Congress will be encouraged to join the Coalition in honoring the
> outstanding
> > >achievements of their constituents.
> > > Award winners will be selected from projects nominated by
public
> agencies,
> > >trail administrators or other project sponsors and will reflect
the
> > >diversity of
> > >trail activities that receive RTP funding. To be eligible for
> recognition, a
> > >project must be complete and must have received RTP funding
since 1998.
> Award
> > >categories include: construction and design; maintenance and
> rehabilitation;
> > >education and communication; accessibility enhancement; multiple-
use
> > >management
> > >or "corridor sharing"; environment/wildlife compatibility; and
use of
> youth
> > >conservation/service corps.
> > > The Coalition for Recreational Trails and AMA invites trail
> > >administrators,
> > >agencies and project sponsors to nominate an outstanding project
in
> > >one or more
> > >of the above categories and/or to encourage the sponsor(s) of an
> excellent
> > >project to submit a nomination as well.
> > > Nomination forms are available directly from the Coalition at
(202)
> 682-9530
> > >or arc@f...). The form and any supporting materials, including
> > >pictures, should be sent by March 14, 2003 to Alicia L. Knight,
> Legislative
> > >Counsel, American Horse Council, 1616 H Street, N.W.,
Washington, D.C.
> 20006.
> > >Questions should be directed to Ms. Knight at 202-296-4031 or
via e-mail
> at
> > >Aknight@h... Winners will be notified no later than
> > >April 21, 2003.
> > >
> > >
> > > Texas Department of Agriculture Commissioner Susan Combs in
concert
> with
> > >property, environmental and agricultural interest groups unveiled
> proposed
> > >legislation to prohibit motor vehicle access to the state's
waterways.
> The
> > >legislation being proposed is based on recommendations made by a
> > >Texas Parks and
> > >Wildlife led taskforce of "riverbed stakeholders".
> > > Three separate bills have been introduced to prohibit off-
highway
> vehicle
> > >access to riverbeds. Senate bill 155, introduced by Senator
Judith
> > >Zaffirini (D
> > >? Laredo), and house bill 305, introduced by Representative
Robert Puente
> (D ?
> > >San Antonio) would prohibit the operation motor vehicles in the
> > >"bottom, bed, or
> > >bank of any navigable river or stream". House bill 206, also
introduced
> by
> > >Representative Puente, would grant river authorities the power to
> prohibit
> > >"vehicular access to and use of the beds and banks of the state-
owned
> > >watercourses". All three bills would exempt adjacent upland
property
> owners
> > >from any new vehicular prohibitions.
> > > Senate bill 155 and house bills 206 and 305 are posted on
the
> StateWatch
> > >section of the "Protecting Your Right to Ride" page of
AMADirectLink.com.
> > >Concerned motorcycle and all-terrain vehicle enthusiasts can use
the
> Rapid
> > >Response feature of the website to identify and contact their
state
> > >legislators.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shanghai, China officials, in an effort to reduce air
pollution,
> > >have proposed
> > >to ban all 789,000 motorcycles (55 percent of all traffic) from
> > >operating within
> > >the city.
> > >
> > >
> > > San Francisco, CA Board of Supervisors approved a measure to
try to
> ease
> > >motorcyclists' parking woes in the city. Introduced by Supervisor
> > >Matt Gonzales,
> > >at the request of the San Francisco Motorcycle and Scooter
Coalition, the
> new
> > >law calls for cars to be towed if they're parked in motorcycle
spots. The
> law
> > >also requires city traffic officials to consider designating a
space as
> > >motorcycle parking before making it a no-parking zone.
> > >
> > >
> > > California's Coastal Commission was declared unconstitutional
December
> 30,
> > >2002 by a state appeals court in Sacramento. Among the
commission's many
> > >responsibilities is a yearly review of the conditional use
permit for
> Oceano
> > >Dunes. The commission was found to violate the California
Constitution's
> > >separation of powers provision because eight of its 12 members
are
> > >appointed by
> > >and serve at the pleasure of legislative leaders, even though
> > >commissioners make
> > >mostly executive and judicial decisions.
> > >
> > >
> > > New Jersey Assembly Bill 3047 (A3047), sponsored by
Assemblywoman
> > >Connie Myers
> > >(R ? Washington) and Assemblyman Joseph Azzolina (R ?
Middletown),
> authorizes
> > >the Division of Motor Vehicles to issue special veterans'
license plates
> > >designed for motorcycles to honorably discharged veterans. A $15
> > >application fee
> > >would be required in addition to the regular registration fee.
Letters in
> > >support of A3047 should be sent to The Honorable John Wisniewski,
> Chairman,
> > >Assembly Transportation Committee, State House Annex, P.O. Box
068,
> > >Trenton, NJ
> > >08625-0068.
> > >
> > >
> > > South Carolina Senate Bill 32 (S32), introduced by John
Knotts,
> > >Jr. (R - West
> > >Columbia), authorizes a Purple Heart recipient special motor
vehicle
> license
> > >plate for use on motorcycles. Letters of support should be sent
to
> > >The Honorable
> > >W. Greg Ryberg, Chairman, Senate Transportation Committee, 203
> > >Gressette Bldg.,
> > >P.O. Box 142, Columbia, SC 29202.
> > >
> > >
> > > Pennsylvania Assembly Bill 2993 (HB2993), introduced by
> > >Representative Richard
> > >Geist (R ? Altoona), provides for a one-year suspension of
operating
> > >privileges
> > >for certain offenses related to motor vehicles. It also levies a
> > >$500 fine for
> > >those convicted of careless driving. Your letters of support
should be
> sent to
> > >The Honorable Richard Geist, Chairman, House Transportation
Committee,
> Capitol
> > >Bldg., House Box 202020, Harrisburg, PA 17120-2020.
> > >
> > >
> > > Washington State Senator Jim Horn (R-Mercer Island) has been
chosen to
> chair
> > >the Senate Transportation Committee. Senator Horn, a long time
> > >motorcyclist and
> > >HOG member, has been a consistent advocate for motorcyclists
during
> > >his time in
> > >the legislature.
> > >
> > >
> > > Carefree, Arizona city officials have adopted ordinance 2002-
14,
> > >revising the
> > >town code to prohibit "Noise of such a character, intensity or
> > >duration as to be
> > >detrimental to the life, health or well-being of any individual,
or to
> > >unreasonably disturb the peace and quiet of a neighborhood,
family or
> person."
> > > This proposed ordinance specifically outlines motor vehicles,
> including
> > >motorcycles, in the arbitrary criteria for enforcement and levy
of fines
> > >starting at $175.00 up to $2,500.00 with 180 days of
imprisonment.
> >
> >
> > --
> > John Stewart
> > Director, Environmental Affairs, UFWDA, http://www.ufwda.org
> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
> > Webmaster, Tierra del Sol 4x4: http://www.tds4x4.com
> > Webmaster, Jeep-L: http://www.jeep-l.net
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 12
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:26:37 -0000
> > From: "Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>"
> <g_rob_williams@y...>
> > Subject: Wanted Compressor
> >
> > I'm looking for a decent air compressor for my garage to run air
> > tools... I finally am going to break down and buy one, wanted to
see
> > if anyone on the list was selling one before I go out and pick on
> > up! -Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 13
> > Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:36:44 -0000
> > From: "dadecamp <dadecamp@e...>" <dadecamp@e...>
> > Subject: Land Use Permits
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm new to this group and fairly new to AZ. I have a trail
> > book, "Arizona Backcountry Adventures". It mentions that permits
> > may be required but does not say where to bet them! It's "Box
> > Canyon" trail is one that it says needs a permit. Where am I
> > suppose to get one and are the an annual permit?
> > Thanks,
> > DAD
> >
> >
> >
>