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70450 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:41pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Tell Troy that I want to work there part time...
Lachlan
az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have
> some specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
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70451 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:58pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Blah, blah, blah, Joe! Kind of reminds me about that damned gas
station on the corner that just opened up last week. Would you
believe it's right across the street from three other gas stations in
the same area? I would choose to support the gas stations that have
been with me over the long haul, but since there are so many of them
that they keep prices down due to competition and the economic laws
of supply and demand, I now choose my gas by the best brand for the
price. I would like to buy from the Mom and Pop store, but they got
mowed down to build another Blockbuster Video. I can think of lots
of places where there aren't any gas stations, and it really pisses
me off.
Ok, here's my point. If the three existing businesses have a
good solid customer base *AND* deliver outstanding customer service,
they will not suffer. I will continue to buy from 4 Wheelers Supply,
and I will also check out the new guys. This is America, Joe. The
same one where you said just the other day that we had to tolerate
others. So tolerate the new guys. Don't spend any money there if
you do not want to. Putting a store in a brand new location that has
not been tested is ballsy, to say the least, but perhaps unwise if
you cannot sell your junk to anyone but the coyotes. Jumping in with
the other dogs is aggressive, and shows that you strive to thrive,
which is good economic sense. Rude, maybe, but I do not recall
learning that there were manners in business regarding competition.
Ethics, yes. Is their choice ethical? Smart business? Probably and
most definitely, to a point. Why? Because now they have made at
least one guy who buys tons of stuff for his rig an "enemy" and will
most likely never become a customer. At the same time they have
offered others a new place to ogle goods. Hope they have tile floors
and lots of mops, because I imagine a good deal of drool on their
floors! Gas stations, grocery stores, Walgreens, WalMart, the
freakin' Militia and Jesse Jackson. I love a parade...
Lachlan "Help me! I'm talkin' an' I can't shut up" MacLean
In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Stu,
>
> Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
I'm a
> little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
Unlimited and
> Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
are
> opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
store
> right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
three
> somewhat large offroad stores.
>
> It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
wonder how
> they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
push comes
> to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
over the
> long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
extent;
> Offroad Unlimited.
>
> I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
choice of
> location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
here in the
> East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
mile
> radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
existing
> shops in a three mile radius.
> This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
>
> You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
live...
> however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
small
> guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
>
> I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
currently
> exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
extreme
> hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
business.... and
> no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
even more
> about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
because
> someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
business;
> only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
boom bah!
>
> I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
to
> remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> business owners.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have some
> specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
70452 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: Diff Question
I have a Detroit locker in my D-35 and have NEVER had a problem. Of course I have the Warn 5x5.5 full floater kit installled which Warn claims gives me equal or better strength than a Dana 44 (of course someone will say anything if they want to sell something) but unlike other "super" kits for the D-35 Warn puts their money where their mouth is and backs it up with a lifetime guarantee. I also have axle truss on the rear......I might also add that I am running 35's with 4.56 ratios, the Warn 5x5.5 kit on the front Dana 30 with a powertrax no slip locker. 4.0 motor 3" exhaust with flowmaster series 40's, no CATs (who needs the back pressure and we dont have emission inspections where I live) with both a Jet stage 1 chip and a Venom 400 power control module and they both work fine together but really suck up the premium gas.
So dont discount the D35 all together, it really isnt bad if you beef it up. But now as I look back, the money I have in my 35 I could have bought an 8.8 but then I would have wanted to beef that up with the Warn full floater kit too.
Mike
70453 From: robert_j_rogers <robert.rogers@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:15pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
> instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how to
> define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years and
> as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC as
a
> group, IMO.
> Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
> think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen them
> pull with our members.
> I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate
the
> service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
> about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
> that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the wrong
> part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part, LOL)
> and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
> Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too late).
>
> This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place
to
> win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
> knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott competition
> is good.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Stu,
> >
> > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
> I'm a
> > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> Unlimited and
> > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
they
> are
> > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
offroad
> store
> > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> three
> > somewhat large offroad stores.
> >
> > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
> wonder how
> > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
> push comes
> > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> over the
> > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
lesser
> extent;
> > Offroad Unlimited.
> >
> > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> choice of
> > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
> here in the
> > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a
5
> mile
> > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
three
> existing
> > shops in a three mile radius.
> > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> >
> > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where
I
> live...
> > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out
the
> small
> > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> >
> > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops
who
> currently
> > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is
my
> extreme
> > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> business.... and
> > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
> even more
> > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> because
> > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
Offroad
> > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way
of
> business;
> > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
shis
> boom bah!
> >
> > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my
best
> to
> > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing
small
> > business owners.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> >
> >
> > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> >
> >
> >
> > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
Troy
> said,
> > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
> have some
> > specials going on.
> >
> >
> >
> > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson
> >
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
70454 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:24pm
Subject: rear pinon seal
anyone have a clue to where i can get a rear pinon seal tonight for a
97 jeep TJ????
shes a pissin all over the place
70455 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:38pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Nope, James was spot on:)
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
> > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how
to
> > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
and
> > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
as
> a
> > group, IMO.
> > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
> > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
them
> > pull with our members.
> > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate
> the
> > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
> > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
> > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
wrong
> > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
LOL)
> > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
> > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
late).
> >
> > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place
> to
> > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
> > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
competition
> > is good.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stu,
> > >
> > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
store?
> > I'm a
> > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > Unlimited and
> > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> they
> > are
> > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> offroad
> > store
> > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> > three
> > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around...
I
> > wonder how
> > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however...
if
> > push comes
> > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> > over the
> > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> lesser
> > extent;
> > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > >
> > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> > choice of
> > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
locations
> > here in the
> > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within
a
> 5
> > mile
> > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> three
> > existing
> > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > >
> > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
where
> I
> > live...
> > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out
> the
> > small
> > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > >
> > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops
> who
> > currently
> > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
is
> my
> > extreme
> > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > business.... and
> > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat
or
> > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
and
> > even more
> > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> > because
> > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> Offroad
> > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way
> of
> > business;
> > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> shis
> > boom bah!
> > >
> > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my
> best
> > to
> > > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing
> small
> > > business owners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > >
> > >
> > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> Troy
> > said,
> > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
probably
> > have some
> > > specials going on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > >
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
70456 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:39pm
Subject: Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Attachment: (image/jpeg) Tallibby.jpg [not stored]
70457 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:43pm
Subject: Re: Is this possible?
Anything is possible...but that's a doctored pic....
----- Original Message -----
From: CoyotEddie
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
70458 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:41pm
Subject: 24 hour auto parts store?
anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
surrounding?
70459 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:46pm
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
Well I have to disagree. Citi Group, like most other big financial conglomerates are interested in nothing more than making money, lots of money. They dont care how or at whose expense as long as they can do it efficiently and with as little cost as possible. They do not care about their employees or their compensation with the exception of those at the top. I can say this as I worked for them for several months and prior to that for another multi billion, muti national financial conglomerates that they bought out, or as they like to say, merged with. The only winner in a merger is the one who does the buying. Citi did not give a rats *** about the 10,000+ people that it just laid off within months of the merger. Those of us that were able to stick around a few months before we got the axe were told that "we were grossly overcompensated". Hint, hint, they didnt want to pay what we were worth. I my self was a VP National Sales manager whos production numbers exceeded the total production number of all of the 7 other National Sales managers combined. It didnt matter that I had directly trained over 300 other employees in one of our divisions and that division had the most successful track records in the company.........So while I respect your loyalty, there is always two sides of any story and the long and the short of it is that Citi cares only about money, they might preach that they are comitted to quality customer service but the proof shows otherwise......the various class action suits that Citi has been involved in and the settlements and or penalties that have been assessed for predatory lending, misleading and fraudulent loan practices, forcing credit insurance on customers and the list goes on..........I have no love lost for Citi and neither do the other 10,000 or more people that lost their jobs thanks to them or the many thousands more who had to take involuntary pay cuts or lose their jobs or the worst, someone who was months away from retirement that got laid off.......yes there were a few of those.......and before I forget, we had to sign "we will not sue for any reason" clauses in order to get our meager severence pay and were given only 2 weeks to think about it. I got an attorney to look it over and was treated like an outcast when they found out about it and then they pressured me even more to sign it .
Mike
got a better job now and a driveway full of Jeeps :-) but longing to move to Az to be with my gal !
70460 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:47pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Nope, James was spot on:)
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
they
> > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
how
> to
> > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> and
> > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> as
> > a
> > > group, IMO.
> > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
I
> > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> them
> > > pull with our members.
> > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
appreciate
> > the
> > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
is,
> > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
isn't
> > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> wrong
> > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> LOL)
> > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
in
> > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> late).
> > >
> > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
place
> > to
> > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
it,
> > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> competition
> > > is good.
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Stu,
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> store?
> > > I'm a
> > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > Unlimited and
> > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > they
> > > are
> > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > offroad
> > > store
> > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
already
> > > three
> > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
around...
> I
> > > wonder how
> > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
however...
> if
> > > push comes
> > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
me
> > > over the
> > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > lesser
> > > extent;
> > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
their
> > > choice of
> > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> locations
> > > here in the
> > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
within
> a
> > 5
> > > mile
> > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > three
> > > existing
> > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
much
> > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > >
> > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> where
> > I
> > > live...
> > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
out
> > the
> > > small
> > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > >
> > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
shops
> > who
> > > currently
> > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> is
> > my
> > > extreme
> > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > business.... and
> > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
Rat
> or
> > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> and
> > > even more
> > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
hurt
> > > because
> > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > Offroad
> > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
way
> > of
> > > business;
> > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > shis
> > > boom bah!
> > > >
> > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
my
> > best
> > > to
> > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
existing
> > small
> > > > business owners.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > Troy
> > > said,
> > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> probably
> > > have some
> > > > specials going on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > >
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > Service.
70461 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
And one more thing.......sure there is lots of good things written about Citi......and it is all from an investment perspective, any company that can make money for investors with have lots of good things written about them, you never hear about the poor little old ladies who lost their homes due to Citi's agressive and predatory lending practices.
70462 From: Nasser <nasser88@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:50pm
Subject: RE: 24 hour auto parts store?
Matt,
Auto Zone
1705 E Main St
Mesa, AZ 85203
(480) 844-7372
They are located on Main between Gilbert and Stapley
Good luck,
Nasser
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt aka Machew [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 24 hour auto parts store?
anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
surrounding?
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70463 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
linda luik wrote:
>
> It's kind of like all the 4-wheelers live in Mesa or is it that Mesa is
> the only city that doesn't have a
> 'no_4x4_shop_within_10_miles_of_an_elementary_scho ol' law? 4th graders
> in any other city in the Valley have never had it so good!! LOL!!
>
> Linda
>
> Lachlan wrote:
> >
> > Blah, blah, blah, Joe! Kind of reminds me about that damned gas
> > station on the corner that just opened up last week. Would you
> > believe it's right across the street from three other gas stations in
> > the same area? I would choose to support the gas stations that have
> > been with me over the long haul, but since there are so many of them
> > that they keep prices down due to competition and the economic laws
> > of supply and demand, I now choose my gas by the best brand for the
> > price. I would like to buy from the Mom and Pop store, but they got
> > mowed down to build another Blockbuster Video. I can think of lots
> > of places where there aren't any gas stations, and it really pisses
> > me off.
> >
> > Ok, here's my point. If the three existing businesses have a
> > good solid customer base *AND* deliver outstanding customer service,
> > they will not suffer. I will continue to buy from 4 Wheelers Supply,
> > and I will also check out the new guys. This is America, Joe. The
> > same one where you said just the other day that we had to tolerate
> > others. So tolerate the new guys. Don't spend any money there if
> > you do not want to. Putting a store in a brand new location that has
> > not been tested is ballsy, to say the least, but perhaps unwise if
> > you cannot sell your junk to anyone but the coyotes. Jumping in with
> > the other dogs is aggressive, and shows that you strive to thrive,
> > which is good economic sense. Rude, maybe, but I do not recall
> > learning that there were manners in business regarding competition.
> > Ethics, yes. Is their choice ethical? Smart business? Probably and
> > most definitely, to a point. Why? Because now they have made at
> > least one guy who buys tons of stuff for his rig an "enemy" and will
> > most likely never become a customer. At the same time they have
> > offered others a new place to ogle goods. Hope they have tile floors
> > and lots of mops, because I imagine a good deal of drool on their
> > floors! Gas stations, grocery stores, Walgreens, WalMart, the
> > freakin' Militia and Jesse Jackson. I love a parade...
> >
> > Lachlan "Help me! I'm talkin' an' I can't shut up" MacLean
> >
> > In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stu,
> > >
> > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
> > I'm a
> > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > Unlimited and
> > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
> > are
> > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
> > store
> > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> > three
> > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
> > wonder how
> > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
> > push comes
> > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> > over the
> > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
> > extent;
> > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > >
> > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> > choice of
> > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
> > here in the
> > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
> > mile
> > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
> > existing
> > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > >
> > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
> > live...
> > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
> > small
> > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > >
> > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
> > currently
> > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
> > extreme
> > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > business.... and
> > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
> > even more
> > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> > because
> > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
> > business;
> > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
> > boom bah!
> > >
> > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
> > to
> > > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> > > business owners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > >
> > >
> > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
> > said,
> > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
> > have some
> > > specials going on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > >
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70464 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:54pm
Subject: Re: Is this possible?
As the man said.
From the file header "Adobe" = created.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Is this possible?
70465 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:22pm
Subject: RE: It's the hardtop guy again...
Hey, he's back. Hasn't this guy stiffed a bunch of people on the list?
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:13 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 91 YJ - Installing shackles?
Looking at replacing my shackles with those Teraflex revovlers, Installation that hard?, seems from my view its pretty simple! Any warnings or pre cautions to take?
Erik Vasquez
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70466 From: Joe <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:22pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2002 TJ - Rock Krawler 5.5" Long Arm Kit
--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>Mark, I would be glad to talk to you about it....give me a call at
the shop tomorrow....(Kongs, 602-944-2411)
Joe (flexyXJ)
70467 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
They REALLY need a good 4 WD store one on the West Side - IMHO! :o)
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8 (on the West Side)
James Towle wrote:
> I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > Nope, James was spot on:)
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
> they
> > > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
> how
> > to
> > > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> > and
> > > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> > as
> > > a
> > > > group, IMO.
> > > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
> I
> > > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> > them
> > > > pull with our members.
> > > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
> appreciate
> > > the
> > > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
> is,
> > > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
> isn't
> > > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> > wrong
> > > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> > LOL)
> > > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
> in
> > > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> > late).
> > > >
> > > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
> place
> > > to
> > > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
> it,
> > > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> > competition
> > > > is good.
> > > >
> > > > --James
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Stu,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> > store?
> > > > I'm a
> > > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > > Unlimited and
> > > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > > they
> > > > are
> > > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > > offroad
> > > > store
> > > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
> already
> > > > three
> > > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
> around...
> > I
> > > > wonder how
> > > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
> however...
> > if
> > > > push comes
> > > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
> me
> > > > over the
> > > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > > lesser
> > > > extent;
> > > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
> their
> > > > choice of
> > > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> > locations
> > > > here in the
> > > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
> within
> > a
> > > 5
> > > > mile
> > > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > > three
> > > > existing
> > > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
> much
> > > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> > where
> > > I
> > > > live...
> > > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
> out
> > > the
> > > > small
> > > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
> shops
> > > who
> > > > currently
> > > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> > is
> > > my
> > > > extreme
> > > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > > business.... and
> > > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
> Rat
> > or
> > > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> > and
> > > > even more
> > > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
> hurt
> > > > because
> > > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > > Offroad
> > > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
> way
> > > of
> > > > business;
> > > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > > shis
> > > > boom bah!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
> my
> > > best
> > > > to
> > > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
> existing
> > > small
> > > > > business owners.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe West
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > > Troy
> > > > said,
> > > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> > probably
> > > > have some
> > > > > specials going on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu Olson
> > > > >
> > > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > > Service.
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70468 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:24pm
Subject: Re: 24 hour auto parts store?
There is also an Autozone (or maybe Checker? Same difference) on Bell
around 24th St. that is 24 hours. I haven't been there, but I've called
them late before.
Mike
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Matt aka Machew wrote:
> anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
> surrounding?
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70469 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:29pm
Subject: Re: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 cowboy7575@a... wrote:
> Well I have to disagree. Citi Group, like most other big financial
> conglomerates are interested in nothing more than making money, lots of
<SNIP a bunch of crap that nobody cares about>
> an attorney to look it over and was treated like an outcast when they found
> out about it and then they pressured me even more to sign it .
>
> Mike
That's great. Take it to email guys, this has nothing to do with
Jeeps. And we're *always* on topic here! :-)
Mike
70470 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
My God people, what's going on here. cant a business get some props/love/credit for business expansion. who cares where it's at, who cares who owns it? 4 wheelers is the best place to shop and I say that from the bottom of my heart, but why hate the next guy for growth. this is America people, shop where you want, how you want, when you want. well, heres my 2 cents (not that it really matters to a lot of you), I don't care who you are or what kind of business you run or open, I can only say "congratulations" and wish the best of luck. Damn, this place isn't even opened yet and it's already being judged and downed for it's soon to be home in mesa.
Anthony C
"a penny saved is a penny earned"
70471 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:34pm
Subject: RE: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Doesn't ORU have a shop on the West side? Troy has one, Toy box offroad, AMC
4x4 (for good used parts), I am sure there are more.
Don't worry, I am sure with the Coyotes and the Cardinals moving to Glendale
you guys will get another 4x4 shop :P.
--James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:26 PM
> To: James Towle
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> They REALLY need a good 4 WD store one on the West Side - IMHO! :o)
>
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8 (on the West Side)
>
> James Towle wrote:
>
> > I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > > Nope, James was spot on:)
> > >
> > > Scott Maiden
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > > > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
> > they
> > > > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
> > how
> > > to
> > > > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> > > and
> > > > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> > > as
> > > > a
> > > > > group, IMO.
> > > > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
> > I
> > > > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> > > them
> > > > > pull with our members.
> > > > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
> > appreciate
> > > > the
> > > > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
> > is,
> > > > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
> > isn't
> > > > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> > > wrong
> > > > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> > > LOL)
> > > > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
> > in
> > > > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> > > late).
> > > > >
> > > > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
> > place
> > > > to
> > > > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
> > it,
> > > > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> > > competition
> > > > > is good.
> > > > >
> > > > > --James
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Stu,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> > > store?
> > > > > I'm a
> > > > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > > > Unlimited and
> > > > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > > > they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > > > offroad
> > > > > store
> > > > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
> > already
> > > > > three
> > > > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
> > around...
> > > I
> > > > > wonder how
> > > > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
> > however...
> > > if
> > > > > push comes
> > > > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
> > me
> > > > > over the
> > > > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > > > lesser
> > > > > extent;
> > > > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
> > their
> > > > > choice of
> > > > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> > > locations
> > > > > here in the
> > > > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
> > within
> > > a
> > > > 5
> > > > > mile
> > > > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > > > three
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
> > much
> > > > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > live...
> > > > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
> > out
> > > > the
> > > > > small
> > > > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
> > shops
> > > > who
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> > > is
> > > > my
> > > > > extreme
> > > > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > > > business.... and
> > > > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
> > Rat
> > > or
> > > > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> > > and
> > > > > even more
> > > > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
> > hurt
> > > > > because
> > > > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > > > Offroad
> > > > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
> > way
> > > > of
> > > > > business;
> > > > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > > > shis
> > > > > boom bah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
> > my
> > > > best
> > > > > to
> > > > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
> > existing
> > > > small
> > > > > > business owners.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe West
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > > > Troy
> > > > > said,
> > > > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> > > probably
> > > > > have some
> > > > > > specials going on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu Olson
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > > > Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70472 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:38pm
Subject: Re: It's the hardtop guy again...
hey your right, this is the guy who stiffed a few of our members.
Anthony C
70473 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:41pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
That's right, my brotha! Hate the game, not the player...
Lachlan "Don't be no player hater" MacLean
In az_vjc@y..., chaton602@a... wrote:
> My God people, what's going on here. cant a business get some
> props/love/credit for business expansion. who cares where it's at,
who cares
> who owns it? 4 wheelers is the best place to shop and I say that
from the
> bottom of my heart, but why hate the next guy for growth. this is
America
> people, shop where you want, how you want, when you want. well,
heres my 2
> cents (not that it really matters to a lot of you), I don't care
who you are
> or what kind of business you run or open, I can only
say "congratulations"
> and wish the best of luck. Damn, this place isn't even opened yet
and it's
> already being judged and downed for it's soon to be home in mesa.
>
> Anthony C
> "a penny saved is a penny earned"
70474 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:46pm
Subject: [FS] WTB----auto floor shifter
Price: ???
Contact: khaw@netbeam.net
I need a floor shifter for a C4 automatic. Prefer a cable type but anyhing will work.
Thanks
Keith
Keith Haw
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70450 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:41pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Tell Troy that I want to work there part time...
Lachlan
az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have
> some specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
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70451 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:58pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Blah, blah, blah, Joe! Kind of reminds me about that damned gas
station on the corner that just opened up last week. Would you
believe it's right across the street from three other gas stations in
the same area? I would choose to support the gas stations that have
been with me over the long haul, but since there are so many of them
that they keep prices down due to competition and the economic laws
of supply and demand, I now choose my gas by the best brand for the
price. I would like to buy from the Mom and Pop store, but they got
mowed down to build another Blockbuster Video. I can think of lots
of places where there aren't any gas stations, and it really pisses
me off.
Ok, here's my point. If the three existing businesses have a
good solid customer base *AND* deliver outstanding customer service,
they will not suffer. I will continue to buy from 4 Wheelers Supply,
and I will also check out the new guys. This is America, Joe. The
same one where you said just the other day that we had to tolerate
others. So tolerate the new guys. Don't spend any money there if
you do not want to. Putting a store in a brand new location that has
not been tested is ballsy, to say the least, but perhaps unwise if
you cannot sell your junk to anyone but the coyotes. Jumping in with
the other dogs is aggressive, and shows that you strive to thrive,
which is good economic sense. Rude, maybe, but I do not recall
learning that there were manners in business regarding competition.
Ethics, yes. Is their choice ethical? Smart business? Probably and
most definitely, to a point. Why? Because now they have made at
least one guy who buys tons of stuff for his rig an "enemy" and will
most likely never become a customer. At the same time they have
offered others a new place to ogle goods. Hope they have tile floors
and lots of mops, because I imagine a good deal of drool on their
floors! Gas stations, grocery stores, Walgreens, WalMart, the
freakin' Militia and Jesse Jackson. I love a parade...
Lachlan "Help me! I'm talkin' an' I can't shut up" MacLean
In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Stu,
>
> Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
I'm a
> little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
Unlimited and
> Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
are
> opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
store
> right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
three
> somewhat large offroad stores.
>
> It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
wonder how
> they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
push comes
> to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
over the
> long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
extent;
> Offroad Unlimited.
>
> I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
choice of
> location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
here in the
> East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
mile
> radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
existing
> shops in a three mile radius.
> This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
>
> You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
live...
> however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
small
> guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
>
> I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
currently
> exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
extreme
> hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
business.... and
> no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
even more
> about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
because
> someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
business;
> only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
boom bah!
>
> I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
to
> remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> business owners.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have some
> specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
70452 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: Diff Question
I have a Detroit locker in my D-35 and have NEVER had a problem. Of course I have the Warn 5x5.5 full floater kit installled which Warn claims gives me equal or better strength than a Dana 44 (of course someone will say anything if they want to sell something) but unlike other "super" kits for the D-35 Warn puts their money where their mouth is and backs it up with a lifetime guarantee. I also have axle truss on the rear......I might also add that I am running 35's with 4.56 ratios, the Warn 5x5.5 kit on the front Dana 30 with a powertrax no slip locker. 4.0 motor 3" exhaust with flowmaster series 40's, no CATs (who needs the back pressure and we dont have emission inspections where I live) with both a Jet stage 1 chip and a Venom 400 power control module and they both work fine together but really suck up the premium gas.
So dont discount the D35 all together, it really isnt bad if you beef it up. But now as I look back, the money I have in my 35 I could have bought an 8.8 but then I would have wanted to beef that up with the Warn full floater kit too.
Mike
70453 From: robert_j_rogers <robert.rogers@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:15pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
> instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how to
> define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years and
> as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC as
a
> group, IMO.
> Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
> think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen them
> pull with our members.
> I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate
the
> service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
> about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
> that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the wrong
> part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part, LOL)
> and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
> Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too late).
>
> This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place
to
> win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
> knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott competition
> is good.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Stu,
> >
> > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
> I'm a
> > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> Unlimited and
> > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
they
> are
> > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
offroad
> store
> > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> three
> > somewhat large offroad stores.
> >
> > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
> wonder how
> > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
> push comes
> > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> over the
> > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
lesser
> extent;
> > Offroad Unlimited.
> >
> > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> choice of
> > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
> here in the
> > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a
5
> mile
> > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
three
> existing
> > shops in a three mile radius.
> > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> >
> > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where
I
> live...
> > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out
the
> small
> > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> >
> > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops
who
> currently
> > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is
my
> extreme
> > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> business.... and
> > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
> even more
> > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> because
> > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
Offroad
> > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way
of
> business;
> > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
shis
> boom bah!
> >
> > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my
best
> to
> > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing
small
> > business owners.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> >
> >
> > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> >
> >
> >
> > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> >
> >
> >
> > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
Troy
> said,
> > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
> have some
> > specials going on.
> >
> >
> >
> > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson
> >
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> Service.
70454 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:24pm
Subject: rear pinon seal
anyone have a clue to where i can get a rear pinon seal tonight for a
97 jeep TJ????
shes a pissin all over the place
70455 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:38pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Nope, James was spot on:)
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
> > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how
to
> > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
and
> > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
as
> a
> > group, IMO.
> > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
> > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
them
> > pull with our members.
> > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate
> the
> > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
> > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
> > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
wrong
> > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
LOL)
> > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
> > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
late).
> >
> > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place
> to
> > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
> > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
competition
> > is good.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stu,
> > >
> > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
store?
> > I'm a
> > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > Unlimited and
> > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> they
> > are
> > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> offroad
> > store
> > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> > three
> > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around...
I
> > wonder how
> > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however...
if
> > push comes
> > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> > over the
> > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> lesser
> > extent;
> > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > >
> > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> > choice of
> > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
locations
> > here in the
> > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within
a
> 5
> > mile
> > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> three
> > existing
> > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > >
> > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
where
> I
> > live...
> > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out
> the
> > small
> > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > >
> > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops
> who
> > currently
> > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
is
> my
> > extreme
> > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > business.... and
> > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat
or
> > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
and
> > even more
> > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> > because
> > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> Offroad
> > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way
> of
> > business;
> > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> shis
> > boom bah!
> > >
> > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my
> best
> > to
> > > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing
> small
> > > business owners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > >
> > >
> > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> Troy
> > said,
> > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
probably
> > have some
> > > specials going on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > >
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
70456 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:39pm
Subject: Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Attachment: (image/jpeg) Tallibby.jpg [not stored]
70457 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:43pm
Subject: Re: Is this possible?
Anything is possible...but that's a doctored pic....
----- Original Message -----
From: CoyotEddie
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Is this possible?
Is this possible?
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
70458 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:41pm
Subject: 24 hour auto parts store?
anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
surrounding?
70459 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:46pm
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
Well I have to disagree. Citi Group, like most other big financial conglomerates are interested in nothing more than making money, lots of money. They dont care how or at whose expense as long as they can do it efficiently and with as little cost as possible. They do not care about their employees or their compensation with the exception of those at the top. I can say this as I worked for them for several months and prior to that for another multi billion, muti national financial conglomerates that they bought out, or as they like to say, merged with. The only winner in a merger is the one who does the buying. Citi did not give a rats *** about the 10,000+ people that it just laid off within months of the merger. Those of us that were able to stick around a few months before we got the axe were told that "we were grossly overcompensated". Hint, hint, they didnt want to pay what we were worth. I my self was a VP National Sales manager whos production numbers exceeded the total production number of all of the 7 other National Sales managers combined. It didnt matter that I had directly trained over 300 other employees in one of our divisions and that division had the most successful track records in the company.........So while I respect your loyalty, there is always two sides of any story and the long and the short of it is that Citi cares only about money, they might preach that they are comitted to quality customer service but the proof shows otherwise......the various class action suits that Citi has been involved in and the settlements and or penalties that have been assessed for predatory lending, misleading and fraudulent loan practices, forcing credit insurance on customers and the list goes on..........I have no love lost for Citi and neither do the other 10,000 or more people that lost their jobs thanks to them or the many thousands more who had to take involuntary pay cuts or lose their jobs or the worst, someone who was months away from retirement that got laid off.......yes there were a few of those.......and before I forget, we had to sign "we will not sue for any reason" clauses in order to get our meager severence pay and were given only 2 weeks to think about it. I got an attorney to look it over and was treated like an outcast when they found out about it and then they pressured me even more to sign it .
Mike
got a better job now and a driveway full of Jeeps :-) but longing to move to Az to be with my gal !
70460 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:47pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Nope, James was spot on:)
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
they
> > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
how
> to
> > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> and
> > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> as
> > a
> > > group, IMO.
> > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
I
> > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> them
> > > pull with our members.
> > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
appreciate
> > the
> > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
is,
> > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
isn't
> > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> wrong
> > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> LOL)
> > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
in
> > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> late).
> > >
> > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
place
> > to
> > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
it,
> > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> competition
> > > is good.
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Stu,
> > > >
> > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> store?
> > > I'm a
> > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > Unlimited and
> > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > they
> > > are
> > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > offroad
> > > store
> > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
already
> > > three
> > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > >
> > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
around...
> I
> > > wonder how
> > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
however...
> if
> > > push comes
> > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
me
> > > over the
> > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > lesser
> > > extent;
> > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > >
> > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
their
> > > choice of
> > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> locations
> > > here in the
> > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
within
> a
> > 5
> > > mile
> > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > three
> > > existing
> > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
much
> > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > >
> > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> where
> > I
> > > live...
> > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
out
> > the
> > > small
> > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > >
> > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
shops
> > who
> > > currently
> > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> is
> > my
> > > extreme
> > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > business.... and
> > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
Rat
> or
> > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> and
> > > even more
> > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
hurt
> > > because
> > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > Offroad
> > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
way
> > of
> > > business;
> > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > shis
> > > boom bah!
> > > >
> > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
my
> > best
> > > to
> > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
existing
> > small
> > > > business owners.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > Troy
> > > said,
> > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> probably
> > > have some
> > > > specials going on.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > >
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > Service.
70461 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
And one more thing.......sure there is lots of good things written about Citi......and it is all from an investment perspective, any company that can make money for investors with have lots of good things written about them, you never hear about the poor little old ladies who lost their homes due to Citi's agressive and predatory lending practices.
70462 From: Nasser <nasser88@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:50pm
Subject: RE: 24 hour auto parts store?
Matt,
Auto Zone
1705 E Main St
Mesa, AZ 85203
(480) 844-7372
They are located on Main between Gilbert and Stapley
Good luck,
Nasser
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt aka Machew [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:42 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 24 hour auto parts store?
anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
surrounding?
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70463 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
linda luik wrote:
>
> It's kind of like all the 4-wheelers live in Mesa or is it that Mesa is
> the only city that doesn't have a
> 'no_4x4_shop_within_10_miles_of_an_elementary_scho ol' law? 4th graders
> in any other city in the Valley have never had it so good!! LOL!!
>
> Linda
>
> Lachlan wrote:
> >
> > Blah, blah, blah, Joe! Kind of reminds me about that damned gas
> > station on the corner that just opened up last week. Would you
> > believe it's right across the street from three other gas stations in
> > the same area? I would choose to support the gas stations that have
> > been with me over the long haul, but since there are so many of them
> > that they keep prices down due to competition and the economic laws
> > of supply and demand, I now choose my gas by the best brand for the
> > price. I would like to buy from the Mom and Pop store, but they got
> > mowed down to build another Blockbuster Video. I can think of lots
> > of places where there aren't any gas stations, and it really pisses
> > me off.
> >
> > Ok, here's my point. If the three existing businesses have a
> > good solid customer base *AND* deliver outstanding customer service,
> > they will not suffer. I will continue to buy from 4 Wheelers Supply,
> > and I will also check out the new guys. This is America, Joe. The
> > same one where you said just the other day that we had to tolerate
> > others. So tolerate the new guys. Don't spend any money there if
> > you do not want to. Putting a store in a brand new location that has
> > not been tested is ballsy, to say the least, but perhaps unwise if
> > you cannot sell your junk to anyone but the coyotes. Jumping in with
> > the other dogs is aggressive, and shows that you strive to thrive,
> > which is good economic sense. Rude, maybe, but I do not recall
> > learning that there were manners in business regarding competition.
> > Ethics, yes. Is their choice ethical? Smart business? Probably and
> > most definitely, to a point. Why? Because now they have made at
> > least one guy who buys tons of stuff for his rig an "enemy" and will
> > most likely never become a customer. At the same time they have
> > offered others a new place to ogle goods. Hope they have tile floors
> > and lots of mops, because I imagine a good deal of drool on their
> > floors! Gas stations, grocery stores, Walgreens, WalMart, the
> > freakin' Militia and Jesse Jackson. I love a parade...
> >
> > Lachlan "Help me! I'm talkin' an' I can't shut up" MacLean
> >
> > In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > Hi Stu,
> > >
> > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
> > I'm a
> > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > Unlimited and
> > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
> > are
> > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
> > store
> > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
> > three
> > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > >
> > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
> > wonder how
> > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
> > push comes
> > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
> > over the
> > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
> > extent;
> > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > >
> > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
> > choice of
> > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
> > here in the
> > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
> > mile
> > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
> > existing
> > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > >
> > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
> > live...
> > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
> > small
> > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > >
> > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
> > currently
> > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
> > extreme
> > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > business.... and
> > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
> > even more
> > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
> > because
> > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
> > business;
> > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
> > boom bah!
> > >
> > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
> > to
> > > remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> > > business owners.
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > >
> > >
> > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
> > said,
> > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
> > have some
> > > specials going on.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Stu Olson
> > >
> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > Service.
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70464 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:54pm
Subject: Re: Is this possible?
As the man said.
From the file header "Adobe" = created.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Is this possible?
70465 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:22pm
Subject: RE: It's the hardtop guy again...
Hey, he's back. Hasn't this guy stiffed a bunch of people on the list?
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@azvjc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:13 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 91 YJ - Installing shackles?
Looking at replacing my shackles with those Teraflex revovlers, Installation that hard?, seems from my view its pretty simple! Any warnings or pre cautions to take?
Erik Vasquez
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70466 From: Joe <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:22pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2002 TJ - Rock Krawler 5.5" Long Arm Kit
--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>Mark, I would be glad to talk to you about it....give me a call at
the shop tomorrow....(Kongs, 602-944-2411)
Joe (flexyXJ)
70467 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
They REALLY need a good 4 WD store one on the West Side - IMHO! :o)
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8 (on the West Side)
James Towle wrote:
> I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > Nope, James was spot on:)
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > > Joe,
> > > >
> > > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
> they
> > > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
> how
> > to
> > > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> > and
> > > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> > as
> > > a
> > > > group, IMO.
> > > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
> I
> > > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> > them
> > > > pull with our members.
> > > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
> appreciate
> > > the
> > > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
> is,
> > > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
> isn't
> > > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> > wrong
> > > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> > LOL)
> > > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
> in
> > > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> > late).
> > > >
> > > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
> place
> > > to
> > > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
> it,
> > > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> > competition
> > > > is good.
> > > >
> > > > --James
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Stu,
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> > store?
> > > > I'm a
> > > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > > Unlimited and
> > > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > > they
> > > > are
> > > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > > offroad
> > > > store
> > > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
> already
> > > > three
> > > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
> around...
> > I
> > > > wonder how
> > > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
> however...
> > if
> > > > push comes
> > > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
> me
> > > > over the
> > > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > > lesser
> > > > extent;
> > > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
> their
> > > > choice of
> > > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> > locations
> > > > here in the
> > > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
> within
> > a
> > > 5
> > > > mile
> > > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > > three
> > > > existing
> > > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
> much
> > > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> > where
> > > I
> > > > live...
> > > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
> out
> > > the
> > > > small
> > > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
> shops
> > > who
> > > > currently
> > > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> > is
> > > my
> > > > extreme
> > > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > > business.... and
> > > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
> Rat
> > or
> > > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> > and
> > > > even more
> > > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
> hurt
> > > > because
> > > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > > Offroad
> > > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
> way
> > > of
> > > > business;
> > > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > > shis
> > > > boom bah!
> > > > >
> > > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
> my
> > > best
> > > > to
> > > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
> existing
> > > small
> > > > > business owners.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe West
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > > Troy
> > > > said,
> > > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> > probably
> > > > have some
> > > > > specials going on.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu Olson
> > > > >
> > > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
> > > > Service.
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70468 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:24pm
Subject: Re: 24 hour auto parts store?
There is also an Autozone (or maybe Checker? Same difference) on Bell
around 24th St. that is 24 hours. I haven't been there, but I've called
them late before.
Mike
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002, Matt aka Machew wrote:
> anyone know of any 24 hours auto parts stores in Phoenix and
> surrounding?
>
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70469 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:29pm
Subject: Re: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 cowboy7575@a... wrote:
> Well I have to disagree. Citi Group, like most other big financial
> conglomerates are interested in nothing more than making money, lots of
<SNIP a bunch of crap that nobody cares about>
> an attorney to look it over and was treated like an outcast when they found
> out about it and then they pressured me even more to sign it .
>
> Mike
That's great. Take it to email guys, this has nothing to do with
Jeeps. And we're *always* on topic here! :-)
Mike
70470 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:31pm
Subject: Re: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
My God people, what's going on here. cant a business get some props/love/credit for business expansion. who cares where it's at, who cares who owns it? 4 wheelers is the best place to shop and I say that from the bottom of my heart, but why hate the next guy for growth. this is America people, shop where you want, how you want, when you want. well, heres my 2 cents (not that it really matters to a lot of you), I don't care who you are or what kind of business you run or open, I can only say "congratulations" and wish the best of luck. Damn, this place isn't even opened yet and it's already being judged and downed for it's soon to be home in mesa.
Anthony C
"a penny saved is a penny earned"
70471 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:34pm
Subject: RE: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Doesn't ORU have a shop on the West side? Troy has one, Toy box offroad, AMC
4x4 (for good used parts), I am sure there are more.
Don't worry, I am sure with the Coyotes and the Cardinals moving to Glendale
you guys will get another 4x4 shop :P.
--James
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:26 PM
> To: James Towle
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> They REALLY need a good 4 WD store one on the West Side - IMHO! :o)
>
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8 (on the West Side)
>
> James Towle wrote:
>
> > I am guessing that's one reason why they are in "central" Phoenix. :D
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> > > Nope, James was spot on:)
> > >
> > > Scott Maiden
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "robert_j_rogers" <robert.rogers@c...> wrote:
> > > > I disagree with you James, they need to open one in north phoenix.
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> > > > > Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since
> > they
> > > > > instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure
> > how
> > > to
> > > > > define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years
> > > and
> > > > > as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC
> > > as
> > > > a
> > > > > group, IMO.
> > > > > Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC.
> > I
> > > > > think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
> > > > > Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen
> > > them
> > > > > pull with our members.
> > > > > I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol)
> > appreciate
> > > > the
> > > > > service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them
> > is,
> > > > > about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix
> > isn't
> > > > > that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the
> > > wrong
> > > > > part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part,
> > > LOL)
> > > > > and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
> > > > > *****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop
> > in
> > > > > Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too
> > > late).
> > > > >
> > > > > This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts
> > place
> > > > to
> > > > > win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind
> > it,
> > > > > knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
> > > > > products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott
> > > competition
> > > > > is good.
> > > > >
> > > > > --James
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Stu,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new
> > > store?
> > > > > I'm a
> > > > > > little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
> > > > > Unlimited and
> > > > > > Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where
> > > > they
> > > > > are
> > > > > > opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another
> > > > offroad
> > > > > store
> > > > > > right smack in the middle of a location where there are
> > already
> > > > > three
> > > > > > somewhat large offroad stores.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores
> > around...
> > > I
> > > > > wonder how
> > > > > > they all are going to survive. I can tell you this
> > however...
> > > if
> > > > > push comes
> > > > > > to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported
> > me
> > > > > over the
> > > > > > long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat
> > > > lesser
> > > > > extent;
> > > > > > Offroad Unlimited.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason,
> > their
> > > > > choice of
> > > > > > location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of
> > > locations
> > > > > here in the
> > > > > > East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops
> > within
> > > a
> > > > 5
> > > > > mile
> > > > > > radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are
> > > > three
> > > > > existing
> > > > > > shops in a three mile radius.
> > > > > > This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take
> > much
> > > > > > intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to
> > > where
> > > > I
> > > > > live...
> > > > > > however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take
> > out
> > > > the
> > > > > small
> > > > > > guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will do my best to see that we continue to support the
> > shops
> > > > who
> > > > > currently
> > > > > > exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it
> > > is
> > > > my
> > > > > extreme
> > > > > > hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
> > > > > business.... and
> > > > > > no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert
> > Rat
> > > or
> > > > > > Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited
> > > and
> > > > > even more
> > > > > > about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys
> > hurt
> > > > > because
> > > > > > someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of
> > > > Offroad
> > > > > > Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the
> > way
> > > > of
> > > > > business;
> > > > > > only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah
> > > > shis
> > > > > boom bah!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do
> > my
> > > > best
> > > > > to
> > > > > > remind others in our group to continue to support our
> > existing
> > > > small
> > > > > > business owners.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joe West
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> > > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Troy asked me to post a few more details.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what
> > > > Troy
> > > > > said,
> > > > > > that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will
> > > probably
> > > > > have some
> > > > > > specials going on.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu Olson
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > Service.
> >
> >
> >
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70472 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:38pm
Subject: Re: It's the hardtop guy again...
hey your right, this is the guy who stiffed a few of our members.
Anthony C
70473 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:41pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
That's right, my brotha! Hate the game, not the player...
Lachlan "Don't be no player hater" MacLean
In az_vjc@y..., chaton602@a... wrote:
> My God people, what's going on here. cant a business get some
> props/love/credit for business expansion. who cares where it's at,
who cares
> who owns it? 4 wheelers is the best place to shop and I say that
from the
> bottom of my heart, but why hate the next guy for growth. this is
America
> people, shop where you want, how you want, when you want. well,
heres my 2
> cents (not that it really matters to a lot of you), I don't care
who you are
> or what kind of business you run or open, I can only
say "congratulations"
> and wish the best of luck. Damn, this place isn't even opened yet
and it's
> already being judged and downed for it's soon to be home in mesa.
>
> Anthony C
> "a penny saved is a penny earned"
70474 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:46pm
Subject: [FS] WTB----auto floor shifter
Price: ???
Contact: khaw@netbeam.net
I need a floor shifter for a C4 automatic. Prefer a cable type but anyhing will work.
Thanks
Keith
Keith Haw
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