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70425 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:21pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
small
> utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
trailers).
>
> Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
that they
> would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
next week.
>
> If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
a few
> days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
I'll get
> back to you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
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70426 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Out from lurking . . . . . . . . .
ROFLMAO
Back to lurking.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Rob Williams wrote:
> Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
> less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
> some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
> small
> > utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
> trailers).
> >
> > Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
> that they
> > would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
> next week.
> >
> > If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
> a few
> > days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
> I'll get
> > back to you.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
>
>
>
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70427 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:14pm
Subject: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70428 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:15pm
Subject: Front tires Wobbles when breaking
For the last few days I've started to feel in the wheel and looking
out the window I see the front tires wobbling when I apply the
breaks... It did it a few weeks ago really bad so I got under the
jeep and made sure all my tie rods were good and tight and did a few
adjustments. It seems fine for a few weeks, but now has returned
slightly.
Has anyone experienced this, if so what should I be looking for such
as wear and tear?
70429 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:18pm
Subject: [FS] 5 OUTLAW II RIMS 15X8's
Price: $250 OBO
Contact: COLE MOHR 602-788-5172
AMERICAN EAGLE OUTLAW II STYLE RIMS 15X8, NOT SURE OF SPACING THEY WERE ON THE JEEP WHEN I BOUGHT IT. THEY ARE COMING OFF OF A 1992 YJ.
COLE MOHR
70430 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:27pm
Subject: RE: Jeep Manual and Wiring
http://www.techauthority.daimlerchrysler.com/
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:mike@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:41 PM
To: AZVJC (E-mail); Trujillo, Jeff
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
Thanks for all the replies.
I ordered the FSM on CD (.pdf's) by calling this number:
1-800-423-7915 8:00am - 8:00pm EST Monday through Friday. Visa,
MasterCard, American Express, Discover and checks accepted. Overnight or
Second Day service available at additional cost. Shipping and handling
charges are additional.
Prices vary depending on year of vehicle.
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
> what is the FSM's and where do you get one? I only know of chilton and
hayes
> and really don't have good enough info. Even when doing other work the
pics
> are of something your jeep doesn't even look like.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Field Service Representative
> MD Helicopters, Inc.
> jeff.trujillo@m...
> Voice:(480)346-6249
> Fax:(480)346-6813
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: Mike; Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
>
> Don't know about the Chiltons, but the FSM's are really good (yes, it
> has
> *complete* wiring diagrams). They may seem expensive at first, but I
> certainly wouldn't be without one, considering the amount of work done
on
> the Jeep ;)
>
>
> :)
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike <mailto:mike@m...>
> To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:46 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
> Can someone tell me if the typical manuals found at the auto parts
> store (Chilton, etc..) contain detailed wiring diagrams? I need one
> for a 2000
TJ.
>
> Additionally, has anyone used the the factory pigtail that plugs into
> the blank bezel and know where those wires come out in the harness? I
> am
trying
> to tie in my extra set of PIAA lights using the existing factory
> wiring.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Mike
>
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70431 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30pm
Subject: [FS] STOCK STEPS
Price: FREE TO GOOD HOME
Contact: COLE MOHR 602-788-5172
STOCK STEPS OFF OF 1992 YJ,HAVE MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE MOUNTING HARDWARE.
COLE MOHR
70432 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:35pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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70433 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:50pm
Subject: Re: Front tires Wobbles when breaking
I had the same problem (95 ZJ), turning the rotors, all four, took
care of it. - Jose
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Matt aka Machew" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> For the last few days I've started to feel in the wheel and looking
> out the window I see the front tires wobbling when I apply the
> breaks... It did it a few weeks ago really bad so I got under the
> jeep and made sure all my tie rods were good and tight and did a
few
> adjustments. It seems fine for a few weeks, but now has returned
> slightly.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, if so what should I be looking for
such
> as wear and tear?
70434 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:02pm
Subject: RE: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
It's for my daughter's pink Barbie Jeep... which by the way:
HAS RECTANGULAR HEADLIGHTS.
<grin>
Ouch! This is a tough crowd to make a mistake around.
ROTFLMAO...
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15"
long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
small
> utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
trailers).
>
> Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
that they
> would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
next week.
>
> If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
a few
> days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
I'll get
> back to you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
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70435 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:20pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
>> I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
Make note to self to purchase extra large fire extinguisher and carry in
TJ whenever I go out with Scott in the future.
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:36 PM
To: 'Lachlan'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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70436 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:23pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Knowing Lachlan this is probably for him to try and blind somebody that
has their high beams on behind him!! :) Think I might try that. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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70437 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Do you already have backup lights? If so, just run a hot wire thru a toggle
switch to the hot side of the lights. Then when you want to use them while
not in reverse just turn on the switch. If you don't have backup lights
already just wire 1 side of the lights to ground. On the other side run a
wire to the backup switch on the tranny. Run another wire from the same side
to a toggle switch. Then run the other side of the switch to the batteries,
or fuse panel. You can also use a relay if you want but it's not required.
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
> How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
> also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
> want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> > Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
> relays
> > while in the other on position.
> >
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
> 20Documents/signature/im
> > age001.jpg>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
> >
> >
> > I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
> lights
> > I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> > on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
> both
> > "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
> I
> > could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
> really
> > want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
> > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
>
>
>
>
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70438 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:49pm
Subject: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
70439 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:18pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
LOL, You were the one that Stu-pervised this wiring.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:21 PM
To: 'Scott Kruize'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
>> I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
Make note to self to purchase extra large fire extinguisher and carry in
TJ whenever I go out with Scott in the future.
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:36 PM
To: 'Lachlan'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service
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70440 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:24pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70441 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:29pm
Subject: [FS] ????PICs/VIDEO OF SAGUARO CLEAN UP?????
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
WHOM EVER WAS TAKING VIDEO OR PICTURES OF THE HILLS AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE FIRST COVE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY ARE ON THE WEB SOMEWHERE? IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GETTING SOME GREAT SHOTS.
Perry Green
70442 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:36pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Sorry Joe&.I really dont know the answer to your question.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70443 From: <itsajeepthing28@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 0:40pm
Subject: TEST - DON'T READ - SORRY
TEST
70444 From: <JEEPER401@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wi...
<PRE>Hey Joe. I have a 14ftX7ft Jeep hauler you could use.Maybe you could put the
tongue of one of the trailers over the tongue.If you can use it,let me know.
I live in Apache Junction. Steve Ruppert 76 CJ5
70445 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:41pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
I respectfully disagree. If somebody puts Fly-N-Hi, Offroad Unlimited, and Desert Rat out of business it will be their own undoing (just like what happened to Dick Cepek Offroad Centers). These shops have poor customer service and inflated prices. If they continue to do so they will become extinct. It's like the law of the wild, Joe. Let the strong survive and the weak perish. If they chose that spot "on purpose" its because they knew that customers in that area were unhappy. Whats wrong with healthy competition? It's good old American Capitalism :)
There is a True Value Hardware in Avondale I go to. I go to the Orange Shed or Lowe's if they don't have what I need. Why? Try getting help at these big stores. At the family owned True Value I can't walk through the aisle for more than 2 minutes without somebody offering me assistance. As long as a business provides customer service that is top notch and prices are fair they have nothing to worry about. Let these other businesses learn these lessons. That being said I will continue to spend my money at 4 Wheelers Supply. Don't forget to ask for Barry :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70446 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:55pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Rectangular Headlights???? Get a rope..... LOL -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> It's for my daughter's pink Barbie Jeep... which by the way:
>
> HAS RECTANGULAR HEADLIGHTS.
>
> <grin>
>
> Ouch! This is a tough crowd to make a mistake around.
> ROTFLMAO...
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least
15"
> long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
>
>
> Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
> less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
> some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up
a
> small
> > utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
> trailers).
> >
> > Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
> that they
> > would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
> next week.
> >
> > If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me
for
> a few
> > days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee
and
> I'll get
> > back to you.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70447 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:12pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how to
define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years and
as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC as a
group, IMO.
Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen them
pull with our members.
I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate the
service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the wrong
part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part, LOL)
and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
*****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too late).
This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place to
win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott competition
is good.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Stu,
>
> Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
I'm a
> little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
Unlimited and
> Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
are
> opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
store
> right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
three
> somewhat large offroad stores.
>
> It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
wonder how
> they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
push comes
> to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
over the
> long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
extent;
> Offroad Unlimited.
>
> I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
choice of
> location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
here in the
> East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
mile
> radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
existing
> shops in a three mile radius.
> This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
>
> You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
live...
> however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
small
> guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
>
> I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
currently
> exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
extreme
> hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
business.... and
> no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
even more
> about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
because
> someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
business;
> only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
boom bah!
>
> I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
to
> remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> business owners.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have some
> specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
70448 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:12pm
Subject: [Tech] 91 YJ - Installing shackles?
Looking at replacing my shackles with those Teraflex revovlers, Installation that hard?, seems from my view its pretty simple! Any warnings or pre cautions to take?
Erik Vasquez
70449 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Scotty,
As I said& there is nothing wrong with good ole American Capitalism. The problem I have is with 4 wheel parts wholesalers is their choice of opening location& not with them coming here. Business is ruthless, put the other guy out of business is the name of the game& okay fine. I can be ruthless too&
By the way; theres another good ole American trait& loyalty. Ill pay more (within reason of course) to support our local guys& and I damn sure dont forget how much they contribute to our club.
Well see what happens with 4 wheel parts wholesalers& but I cant help but wish them all the worst.
By the way& I live in Mesa so I get to ***** more.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:42 PM
To: 'Joe West'; 'Stu Olson'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
I respectfully disagree. If somebody puts Fly-N-Hi, Offroad Unlimited, and Desert Rat out of business it will be their own undoing (just like what happened to Dick Cepek Offroad Centers). These shops have poor customer service and inflated prices. If they continue to do so they will become extinct. It's like the law of the wild, Joe. Let the strong survive and the weak perish. If they chose that spot "on purpose" its because they knew that customers in that area were unhappy. Whats wrong with healthy competition? It's good old American Capitalism :)
There is a True Value Hardware in Avondale I go to. I go to the Orange Shed or Lowe's if they don't have what I need. Why? Try getting help at these big stores. At the family owned True Value I can't walk through the aisle for more than 2 minutes without somebody offering me assistance. As long as a business provides customer service that is top notch and prices are fair they have nothing to worry about. Let these other businesses learn these lessons. That being said I will continue to spend my money at 4 Wheelers Supply. Don't forget to ask for Barry :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70425 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:21pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
small
> utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
trailers).
>
> Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
that they
> would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
next week.
>
> If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
a few
> days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
I'll get
> back to you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
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70426 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Out from lurking . . . . . . . . .
ROFLMAO
Back to lurking.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Rob Williams wrote:
> Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
> less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
> some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
> small
> > utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
> trailers).
> >
> > Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
> that they
> > would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
> next week.
> >
> > If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
> a few
> > days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
> I'll get
> > back to you.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70427 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:14pm
Subject: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70428 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:15pm
Subject: Front tires Wobbles when breaking
For the last few days I've started to feel in the wheel and looking
out the window I see the front tires wobbling when I apply the
breaks... It did it a few weeks ago really bad so I got under the
jeep and made sure all my tie rods were good and tight and did a few
adjustments. It seems fine for a few weeks, but now has returned
slightly.
Has anyone experienced this, if so what should I be looking for such
as wear and tear?
70429 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:18pm
Subject: [FS] 5 OUTLAW II RIMS 15X8's
Price: $250 OBO
Contact: COLE MOHR 602-788-5172
AMERICAN EAGLE OUTLAW II STYLE RIMS 15X8, NOT SURE OF SPACING THEY WERE ON THE JEEP WHEN I BOUGHT IT. THEY ARE COMING OFF OF A 1992 YJ.
COLE MOHR
70430 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:27pm
Subject: RE: Jeep Manual and Wiring
http://www.techauthority.daimlerchrysler.com/
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:mike@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:41 PM
To: AZVJC (E-mail); Trujillo, Jeff
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
Thanks for all the replies.
I ordered the FSM on CD (.pdf's) by calling this number:
1-800-423-7915 8:00am - 8:00pm EST Monday through Friday. Visa,
MasterCard, American Express, Discover and checks accepted. Overnight or
Second Day service available at additional cost. Shipping and handling
charges are additional.
Prices vary depending on year of vehicle.
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
To: "AZVJC (E-mail)" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
> what is the FSM's and where do you get one? I only know of chilton and
hayes
> and really don't have good enough info. Even when doing other work the
pics
> are of something your jeep doesn't even look like.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Field Service Representative
> MD Helicopters, Inc.
> jeff.trujillo@m...
> Voice:(480)346-6249
> Fax:(480)346-6813
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: Mike; Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
>
> Don't know about the Chiltons, but the FSM's are really good (yes, it
> has
> *complete* wiring diagrams). They may seem expensive at first, but I
> certainly wouldn't be without one, considering the amount of work done
on
> the Jeep ;)
>
>
> :)
> Fred
>
>
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> From: Mike <mailto:mike@m...>
> To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club <mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:46 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Jeep Manual and Wiring
>
> Can someone tell me if the typical manuals found at the auto parts
> store (Chilton, etc..) contain detailed wiring diagrams? I need one
> for a 2000
TJ.
>
> Additionally, has anyone used the the factory pigtail that plugs into
> the blank bezel and know where those wires come out in the harness? I
> am
trying
> to tie in my extra set of PIAA lights using the existing factory
> wiring.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> -Mike
>
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70431 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:30pm
Subject: [FS] STOCK STEPS
Price: FREE TO GOOD HOME
Contact: COLE MOHR 602-788-5172
STOCK STEPS OFF OF 1992 YJ,HAVE MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE MOUNTING HARDWARE.
COLE MOHR
70432 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:35pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70433 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:50pm
Subject: Re: Front tires Wobbles when breaking
I had the same problem (95 ZJ), turning the rotors, all four, took
care of it. - Jose
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Matt aka Machew" <wishmaaker@y...> wrote:
> For the last few days I've started to feel in the wheel and looking
> out the window I see the front tires wobbling when I apply the
> breaks... It did it a few weeks ago really bad so I got under the
> jeep and made sure all my tie rods were good and tight and did a
few
> adjustments. It seems fine for a few weeks, but now has returned
> slightly.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, if so what should I be looking for
such
> as wear and tear?
70434 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:02pm
Subject: RE: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
It's for my daughter's pink Barbie Jeep... which by the way:
HAS RECTANGULAR HEADLIGHTS.
<grin>
Ouch! This is a tough crowd to make a mistake around.
ROTFLMAO...
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15"
long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Gang,
>
> I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up a
small
> utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
trailers).
>
> Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
that they
> would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
next week.
>
> If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me for
a few
> days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee and
I'll get
> back to you.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
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70435 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:20pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
>> I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
Make note to self to purchase extra large fire extinguisher and carry in
TJ whenever I go out with Scott in the future.
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:36 PM
To: 'Lachlan'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70436 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:23pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Knowing Lachlan this is probably for him to try and blind somebody that
has their high beams on behind him!! :) Think I might try that. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70437 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Do you already have backup lights? If so, just run a hot wire thru a toggle
switch to the hot side of the lights. Then when you want to use them while
not in reverse just turn on the switch. If you don't have backup lights
already just wire 1 side of the lights to ground. On the other side run a
wire to the backup switch on the tranny. Run another wire from the same side
to a toggle switch. Then run the other side of the switch to the batteries,
or fuse panel. You can also use a relay if you want but it's not required.
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:14 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
> How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
> also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
> want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> > Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
> relays
> > while in the other on position.
> >
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
> 20Documents/signature/im
> > age001.jpg>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> > To: AzVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
> >
> >
> > I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
> lights
> > I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> > on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
> both
> > "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
> I
> > could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
> really
> > want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
> >
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70438 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:49pm
Subject: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
70439 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:18pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT-- Wiring ??
LOL, You were the one that Stu-pervised this wiring.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:21 PM
To: 'Scott Kruize'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
>> I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
Make note to self to purchase extra large fire extinguisher and carry in
TJ whenever I go out with Scott in the future.
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:36 PM
To: 'Lachlan'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
Lachlan,
Look above your transmission. That is where the reverse switch is on
your manual. There are two purple with white stripe wires that plug into
the harness. One supplies 12V into the switch the other completes the
circuit to the rear backup lights. Now install a dash switch and relay.
Then run a power line to the second wire that runs to the back BEHIND
the transmission reverse switch. I'd tap the relay into the first power
lead so you are always drawing from the same fuse. Now you can either
manually turn on the lights or use the reverse switch to turn them on.
If you are really courageous you could open up the harness under the
hood to tap in.
I feel dangerous ever since I wired up that AW4.
LOL
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Lachlan [mailto:jeepindog@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 4:15 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT-- Wiring ??
How about if you want to add a set of backup lights that you can
also toggle to come on when you just want light behind you but don't
want to switch into reverse to get light? (Does that make sense?)
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Use 2 relays. Feed one relay when in the fisrt on position, both
relays
> while in the other on position.
>
>
> Scott K
>
> <file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Scott/My%
20Documents/signature/im
> age001.jpg>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@n...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:31 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT-- Wiring ??
>
>
> I've got a question about wiring some lights. I've got 2 sets of
lights
> I want to run off 1 switch. The switch is a SPDT,
> on-off-on style. What I need to do is have 1 set of lights on in
both
> "on" positions and the other set only on in 1 "on" position. I know
I
> could just add another switch but what fun is that? Anyway don't
really
> want to drill another hole if I don't have to.
>
> Thanks
> Keith
>
>
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70440 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:24pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70441 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:29pm
Subject: [FS] ????PICs/VIDEO OF SAGUARO CLEAN UP?????
Price:
Contact: GREEN65234@AOL.COM
WHOM EVER WAS TAKING VIDEO OR PICTURES OF THE HILLS AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE FIRST COVE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THEY ARE ON THE WEB SOMEWHERE? IT LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE GETTING SOME GREAT SHOTS.
Perry Green
70442 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:36pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Sorry Joe&.I really dont know the answer to your question.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70443 From: <itsajeepthing28@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 0:40pm
Subject: TEST - DON'T READ - SORRY
TEST
70444 From: <JEEPER401@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 0:41pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wi...
<PRE>Hey Joe. I have a 14ftX7ft Jeep hauler you could use.Maybe you could put the
tongue of one of the trailers over the tongue.If you can use it,let me know.
I live in Apache Junction. Steve Ruppert 76 CJ5
70445 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:41pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
I respectfully disagree. If somebody puts Fly-N-Hi, Offroad Unlimited, and Desert Rat out of business it will be their own undoing (just like what happened to Dick Cepek Offroad Centers). These shops have poor customer service and inflated prices. If they continue to do so they will become extinct. It's like the law of the wild, Joe. Let the strong survive and the weak perish. If they chose that spot "on purpose" its because they knew that customers in that area were unhappy. Whats wrong with healthy competition? It's good old American Capitalism :)
There is a True Value Hardware in Avondale I go to. I go to the Orange Shed or Lowe's if they don't have what I need. Why? Try getting help at these big stores. At the family owned True Value I can't walk through the aisle for more than 2 minutes without somebody offering me assistance. As long as a business provides customer service that is top notch and prices are fair they have nothing to worry about. Let these other businesses learn these lessons. That being said I will continue to spend my money at 4 Wheelers Supply. Don't forget to ask for Barry :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70446 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:55pm
Subject: Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least 15" long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
Rectangular Headlights???? Get a rope..... LOL -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> It's for my daughter's pink Barbie Jeep... which by the way:
>
> HAS RECTANGULAR HEADLIGHTS.
>
> <grin>
>
> Ouch! This is a tough crowd to make a mistake around.
> ROTFLMAO...
>
>
> Joe
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Does anyone have a flatbed trailer at least
15"
> long and 5.5" wide I can rent?
>
>
> Thats a pretty small trailer... just over a foot long? 15"?? and
> less then a half a foot wide? 5.5"??? LOL What are you haulin?
> some Barbie stuff??? ;) -Rob
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I need to rent a flatbed trailer to tow to Las Vegas to pick up
a
> small
> > utility trailer (actually, to pick up a couple of small utility
> trailers).
> >
> > Does anyone in the group have a flatbed trailer or Jeep hauler
> that they
> > would be willing to rent me for a couple of days this weekend or
> next week.
> >
> > If you have something, and you would like to rent it out to me
for
> a few
> > days, please let me know how much you'd like for a rental fee
and
> I'll get
> > back to you.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
>
>
>
>
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70447 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:12pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
As far as I know, ORU hasn't cared about AzVJC members since they
instituted "new management", at least in Mesa. I am not sure how to
define the "new management". I have shopped at ORU for 15 years and
as of lately they have no concerns for me, my business or AzVJC as a
group, IMO.
Desert Rat is an "on again, off again" relationship with AzVJC. I
think they could do better for themself and us, this is JMO.
Flying High can go take a flying leep, after what I have seen them
pull with our members.
I really, really, really (did I say that enough, lol) appreciate the
service and people at 4 Wheelers Supply. My problem with them is,
about 3:00PM when I need a part. The driver over to Phoenix isn't
that bad, the drive back just stinks. Plus, if I ask for the wrong
part (because God knows they wouldn't give me the wrong part, LOL)
and I have to return it, I spend a bunch of time in my vehicle
*****ing myself out. Dang, I wish 4 Wheelers would open a shop in
Chandler or South-Central Mesa, (hint, hint, maybe it is too late).
This being said, it will take a long time for any new parts place to
win over my business. Especially, one with Troy's name behind it,
knowing what happened the last time I tried to buy one of his
products, maybe that was a fluke. I do agree with Scott competition
is good.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hi Stu,
>
> Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store?
I'm a
> little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad
Unlimited and
> Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they
are
> opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad
store
> right smack in the middle of a location where there are already
three
> somewhat large offroad stores.
>
> It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I
wonder how
> they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if
push comes
> to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me
over the
> long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser
extent;
> Offroad Unlimited.
>
> I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their
choice of
> location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations
here in the
> East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5
mile
> radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three
existing
> shops in a three mile radius.
> This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much
> intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
>
> You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I
live...
> however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the
small
> guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
>
> I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who
currently
> exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my
extreme
> hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of
business.... and
> no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or
> Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and
even more
> about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt
because
> someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad
> Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of
business;
> only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis
boom bah!
>
> I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best
to
> remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small
> business owners.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
>
>
> Troy asked me to post a few more details.
>
>
>
> The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
>
>
>
> The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy
said,
> that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably
have some
> specials going on.
>
>
>
> He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
70448 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:12pm
Subject: [Tech] 91 YJ - Installing shackles?
Looking at replacing my shackles with those Teraflex revovlers, Installation that hard?, seems from my view its pretty simple! Any warnings or pre cautions to take?
Erik Vasquez
70449 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: RE: 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Scotty,
As I said& there is nothing wrong with good ole American Capitalism. The problem I have is with 4 wheel parts wholesalers is their choice of opening location& not with them coming here. Business is ruthless, put the other guy out of business is the name of the game& okay fine. I can be ruthless too&
By the way; theres another good ole American trait& loyalty. Ill pay more (within reason of course) to support our local guys& and I damn sure dont forget how much they contribute to our club.
Well see what happens with 4 wheel parts wholesalers& but I cant help but wish them all the worst.
By the way& I live in Mesa so I get to ***** more.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:skruize@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:42 PM
To: 'Joe West'; 'Stu Olson'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Joe,
I respectfully disagree. If somebody puts Fly-N-Hi, Offroad Unlimited, and Desert Rat out of business it will be their own undoing (just like what happened to Dick Cepek Offroad Centers). These shops have poor customer service and inflated prices. If they continue to do so they will become extinct. It's like the law of the wild, Joe. Let the strong survive and the weak perish. If they chose that spot "on purpose" its because they knew that customers in that area were unhappy. Whats wrong with healthy competition? It's good old American Capitalism :)
There is a True Value Hardware in Avondale I go to. I go to the Orange Shed or Lowe's if they don't have what I need. Why? Try getting help at these big stores. At the family owned True Value I can't walk through the aisle for more than 2 minutes without somebody offering me assistance. As long as a business provides customer service that is top notch and prices are fair they have nothing to worry about. Let these other businesses learn these lessons. That being said I will continue to spend my money at 4 Wheelers Supply. Don't forget to ask for Barry :D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@synopsys.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:24 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Hi Stu,
Can you tell us what Troy's relationship is with the new store? I'm a little torn here because the store is opening near Offroad Unlimited and Desert Rat... there is also a Fly-N-Hi a few miles from where they are opening. I find it curious that someone would plop another offroad store right smack in the middle of a location where there are already three somewhat large offroad stores.
It seems to me that there are so many offroad stores around... I wonder how they all are going to survive. I can tell you this however... if push comes to shove, I'll be supporting the stores which have supported me over the long haul; stores like 4 Wheeler's Supply and to a somewhat lesser extent; Offroad Unlimited.
I'm trying not to cop an attitude... but for some reason, their choice of location really bother's me. I can think of dozens of locations here in the East Valley where there are absolutely NO offroad shops within a 5 mile radius yet they choose to open in a location where there are three existing shops in a three mile radius.
This tells me something Stu... and it probably doesn't take much intelligence to figure it out.... and it pisses me off.
You'd think I'd be happy having another choice so close to where I live... however... I see this as a move by a larger company to take out the small guy... and you know what; I don't like it.
I will do my best to see that we continue to support the shops who currently exist... and if there is not enough business to go around, it is my extreme hope that it is 4 wheel parts wholesalers who goes out of business.... and no other shop. While I don't care a great deal for Desert Rat or Fly-N-High... I do care a great deal about Offroad Unlimited and even more about 4 Wheeler's Supply... I would hate to see these guys hurt because someone larger opens a shop right next door (in the case of Offroad Unlimited) and they can't compete. Ahhh... yes... it is the way of business; only the strong survive... capitalism at it's best... rah rah shis boom bah!
I'll be leading the cheers when they close shop and I'll do my best to remind others in our group to continue to support our existing small business owners.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheel Parts Wholesalers Opening in Mesa
Troy asked me to post a few more details.
The doors of the store will open on Dec. 2nd, Monday.
The Grand Opening will be on Dec 7th, Saturday. >From what Troy said, that would be the day to stop by. Sounds like they will probably have some specials going on.
He mentioned that AZVJC folks will be getting a discount.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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