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70375 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:31am
Subject: [FS] Full size Axels
Price: 200.00 obo
Contact: Brendan 480-986-8805
Freind has a set upf full size axels with high clearance steering on the front. beleive these are 3/4 ton axels out of a an early 70's cheverolet truck. (70-74) front pumpkin is offest to the drivers side, back pumpkin is centered.
these axels are complete but may need new brakes etc.
brendan@xterabytecomputers.com for more info.
Brendan B. Rosier
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70376 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:50am
Subject: Re: is this the new bfg's ????
Yup.... the BFG Krawlers
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Mike Buckner" <mbuckner@c...> wrote:
> Found this photo on the web
70377 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:02am
Subject: [Tech] - axle shaft
Is there any place in PHX metro area that will shorting and respline axle shafts
Chris Haley
Chris Haley
70378 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:40am
Subject: Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70379 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:01am
Subject: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
70380 From: rayb35az <rborden2@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:21am
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I would be happy to explain how our business works. If any of you
have ever trained anyone at your job you know how much of a hastle it
is. Our CEO understands this. If he wants his business to grow, which
it has over the years by record numbers, he knows the only way is to
hire and train more people. If he wants to hire and train more
quality people then he understands he needs to compensate the leaders
who are doing the training. If I spend my time training others and
get them going in the business, teach them how to run a business of
their own then I get an override from the business they do. We never
get paid unless we HELP a family. If you will do the research on
Citigroup you will see it is the largest company in the world and
there are nothing but great things being said in anything you read.
This business is not for everyone, there's no doubt about that. I
personally have been able to help many families improve their
financial situation either by teaching them the business to add some
income to their bottom line or educating them on how their money
works and finding solutions that save them thousands of dollars, and
I don't feel bad one bit for being able to do that.
Thanks,
Ray Borden
95YJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> Perhaps you should explain your "business" to prospective
> employees a little better, because so far all of the members of
this
> club who have talked to you believe it to be a "hierarchy". (I
think
> I misspelled it- should have been 'pyramid') You may want to clear
> up these misconceptions. Besides, the communication practice
cannot
> hurt your selling skills...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "rayb35az" <rborden2@c...> wrote:
> > I would like to appoligize to anyone that was offended by my
call.
> I
> > am new to Arizona and I don't know alot of people as I said on
the
> > phone. I have found most in the group to be very helpfull. I
wanted
> > to give my fellow jeepers first chance at this oppertunity. As
for
> it
> > being a telemarketing call, it wasn't that at all. I am not
trying
> to
> > sell anything. Our company is growing and we are looking for
> honest,
> > hard working people to open and run new offices. I have been able
> to
> > meet with a few members of the group and have helped a couple a
> great
> > deal in their lives. Because of the law I cannot say who they are
> but
> > I hope they read this and come forward. As for this being a
pyramid
> > they are illegal. Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone and
I
> > will not be calling other members of the group.
> > Thanks,
> > Ray B
> > 95YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
70381 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:19am
Subject: RE: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I was once part of Primerica for about a month. No matter what you call it
it is still a pyramid. Yea, you hear nothing good about Citigroup but, once
you get involved all your free time is gone. At first you only start 2
nights a week, then 3, then 4, then they want your weekends. "the more days
you do the more money you make". The more people you get under you the more
free time you have. But you know what? I never seen the higher ups with any
more free time than me! Needless to say, I worked my *** for 1 month
straight and never seen a dime. So warning to all, don't do it! They might
help you financially by giving you a personal profile but thats about it. At
first you let them into your house to talk about life insurance, refinance,
next there getting you to quit your job and help them out. Just my $1 worth.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: rayb35az [mailto:rborden2@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:21 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I would be happy to explain how our business works. If any of you
have ever trained anyone at your job you know how much of a hastle it
is. Our CEO understands this. If he wants his business to grow, which
it has over the years by record numbers, he knows the only way is to
hire and train more people. If he wants to hire and train more
quality people then he understands he needs to compensate the leaders
who are doing the training. If I spend my time training others and
get them going in the business, teach them how to run a business of
their own then I get an override from the business they do. We never
get paid unless we HELP a family. If you will do the research on
Citigroup you will see it is the largest company in the world and
there are nothing but great things being said in anything you read.
This business is not for everyone, there's no doubt about that. I
personally have been able to help many families improve their
financial situation either by teaching them the business to add some
income to their bottom line or educating them on how their money
works and finding solutions that save them thousands of dollars, and
I don't feel bad one bit for being able to do that.
Thanks,
Ray Borden
95YJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> Perhaps you should explain your "business" to prospective
> employees a little better, because so far all of the members of
this
> club who have talked to you believe it to be a "hierarchy". (I
think
> I misspelled it- should have been 'pyramid') You may want to clear
> up these misconceptions. Besides, the communication practice
cannot
> hurt your selling skills...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "rayb35az" <rborden2@c...> wrote:
> > I would like to appoligize to anyone that was offended by my
call.
> I
> > am new to Arizona and I don't know alot of people as I said on
the
> > phone. I have found most in the group to be very helpfull. I
wanted
> > to give my fellow jeepers first chance at this oppertunity. As
for
> it
> > being a telemarketing call, it wasn't that at all. I am not
trying
> to
> > sell anything. Our company is growing and we are looking for
> honest,
> > hard working people to open and run new offices. I have been able
> to
> > meet with a few members of the group and have helped a couple a
> great
> > deal in their lives. Because of the law I cannot say who they are
> but
> > I hope they read this and come forward. As for this being a
pyramid
> > they are illegal. Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone and
I
> > will not be calling other members of the group.
> > Thanks,
> > Ray B
> > 95YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
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70382 From: sign_xpressions <sign_xpressions@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:48am
Subject: Re: decals
I could help out....but will not be able tp print the decals in house
for that price...we use a resin printer to print on vinyl which is alot
more expensive to run....would like to know who you are having
print them and what printing method they are using....are they
printing a vector file or a bitmap....i could sell them off my
webpage for people to order....let me know..
~Andrew
www.signxpressions.com
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon Loveless-DSL" <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> I am looking for someone to take over the job of printing and
> distributing the AZVJC decals. My job has me travelling all over
the
> place and I don't have time fro wheeling much, not to mention
the job of
> decal management.
>
> There is a down side:
> 1. You need to front the $$ or find another way of distributing.
Today,
> there is a minimum order of 46 decals at 3$ plus shipping.
> 2. I use PayPal to pay for the decals so as long as people use
PayPal to
> order them everything works ok after the initial outlay.
> 3. Many people won't use PayPal. If I continue to do it I will only
> accept PayPal - it is by far the easiest way of doing this.
> 4. Unless you jack up the price of the decals you will lose a
little
> money (mostly shipping and postage.) The decasl cost $3
each plus
> shipping and I charge $3.25 for them. Shipping from the printer
is about
> $7 and PayPal takes a bit for their part each time a decal is
ordered.
>
> Other than that, it is a fun thing to do. I have been doing this for
> nearly 3 years and need someone else to take over.
>
> Any takers??
>
> Jon Loveless
> 480-816-0963
> jloveless@d...
> jloveless@d...
70383 From: armando cantu <mandocan22@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:01am
Subject: steering question '''' please read ''''
I went to the bone yard yesterday to find a steering
collumn but didnt find one on hand. does any one have
one for a 79 cj5. or know what other makes or models
of cars/ trucks columns will be compatible.
mando
79cj5
thanks
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70384 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:02am
Subject: Re: AZVJC banner
Ill take it back.. I guess my shop is good central loaction for it... just an offer..
John k
70385 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:03am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt, 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around $200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70386 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:08am
Subject: [FS] JEEP PARTS
Price:
Contact: SMCMILLAN@SANDERSONFORD.COM
HAVE A COUPLE 300 TRANSFER CASES FOR SALE
BOTH ARE IN GOOD WORKINK CONDITION
ONE ALREADY HAS 1310 YOK FOR C/V DRIVE SHAFT
THE OTHER HAS STOCK REAR YOK
ALSO HAVE YJ SPRINGS PROBABLY ABOUT 25
SOME WITH ADDED LEAFS
GIVE ME A CALL
SCOTT FABRICATIONS
602-980-1158
SMCMILLAN@SANDERSONFORD.COM
SCOTT MCMILLAN
70387 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:59am
Subject: RE: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are located
at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went there the
other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty knowledgable.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and has a
very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt, 14bolt, 9
inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so bring a friend
and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting trip with a tape
measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the parts. I haven't priced
a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around $200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70388 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:12am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70389 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:19am
Subject: RE: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Be sure to ask for Dave. He was very helpful when I was acquiring parts
for my tranny swap.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Trujillo, Jeff [mailto:jeff.trujillo@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are
located
at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went there
the other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty
knowledgable.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and
has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt,
14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so
bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting
trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the
parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around
$200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70390 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:44am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail running (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax, Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the drivetrain.
You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many people, represent about the max capability they want from their Jeeps.
Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's, Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper Ajax or Predator is in order.
See ya,
Tom
>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70391 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
I definitely agree with the driving style and auto tranny statements.
Both tend to have a dramatic impact on the lifespan of "weak parts".
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:TJacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:44 AM
To: skruize@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure there are
several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so I still
maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK to back up
and try a different approach) will help save your "weak parts". Also,
an auto tranny seems much more easy on the drivetrain.
You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
people, represent about the max capability they want from their Jeeps.
Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like to
try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's, Axle
Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper Ajax or
Predator is in order.
See ya,
Tom
>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70392 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:55am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
I visited AMC4x4 Salvage alot when I had a CJ7. They always helped me
out. But, as a strictly Jeep salvage, would they have Dana 60s to put
in a Scout?
-Scott E
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Be sure to ask for Dave. He was very helpful when I was acquiring
parts
> for my tranny swap.
>
> Scott K
>
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>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@y...'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
>
>
> www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are
> located
> at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went
there
> the other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty
> knowledgable.
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
>
>
>
> Hi Scott
>
>
> Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard
and
> has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's,
12bolt,
> 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so
> bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a
scouting
> trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the
> parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are
around
> $200-$300.
>
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
> Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in
his
> rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
> considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards
for
> finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone
has
> a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email
and
> I'll pass on the info.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott E.
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70393 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:12am
Subject: Re: Re: Diff Question
I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's just
your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock while
making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also broke
a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too loud. I
probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
-darren
Tom Jacobson wrote:
> Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
>
> I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running
> (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so
> I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK
> to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak
> parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> drivetrain.
>
> You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
> people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> Jeeps.
>
> Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like
> to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's,
> Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper
> Ajax or Predator is in order.
>
> See ya, Tom
>
>
>>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
>>>>
> How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
> better?
>
> :D
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
[mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
>
>
> I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
>
> Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
> the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open.
> If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok.
> Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it
> spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> road means you're not going anywhere.
>
> I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses.
> But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I
> just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
>
> Tom
>
> Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott Kruize"
> <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
>
> The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
> On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at
> 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> factory traclok.
>
>
> The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
> These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
> Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8.
> Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better
> choice on the street.
>
> It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running,
> hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If you start
> using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
> locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
>
>
> Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
>
>
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70394 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:35am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
Here is some input for you on you parts breakage. Most of the time when you
brake a front axel it will be because you are hard locked and making a hard
turn on a hard surface. This is very typical. As for the AMC stock axel it
is also very typical for the stock two piece axels to break specially if you
have installed a hard locker. They just are not up to the task of handling
the torque an hard locker puts on them. I have even seen them brake using
limited slips.
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:r50880@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:13 AM
To: Tom Jacobson
Cc: skruize@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's just
your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock while
making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also broke
a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too loud. I
probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
-darren
Tom Jacobson wrote:
> Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
>
> I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running
> (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so
> I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK
> to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak
> parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> drivetrain.
>
> You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
> people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> Jeeps.
>
> Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like
> to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's,
> Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper
> Ajax or Predator is in order.
>
> See ya, Tom
>
>
>>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
>>>>
> How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
> better?
>
> :D
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
[mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
>
>
> I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
>
> Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
> the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open.
> If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok.
> Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it
> spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> road means you're not going anywhere.
>
> I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses.
> But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I
> just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
>
> Tom
>
> Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott Kruize"
> <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
>
> The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
> On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at
> 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> factory traclok.
>
>
> The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
> These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
> Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8.
> Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better
> choice on the street.
>
> It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running,
> hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If you start
> using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
> locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
>
>
> Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
>
>
>
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70395 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:45am
Subject: Re: Diff Question
Oh, I definitely believe in the "luck" factor, and in the "snowball"
effect of fixing things. You fix "A" because of a problem, and then
part "B" also takes a dive due to its interaction with new part "A".
Then since you are replacing/fixing "B" you might as well work
on "C", etc. etc, etc. I believe you know what I'm talking about. -
Jose
--- In az_vjc@y..., Darren Richards <r50880@e...> wrote:
> I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's
just
> your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
> broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock
while
> making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also
broke
> a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
> didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too
loud. I
> probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
>
> -darren
>
> Tom Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
> >
> > I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE
trail
> running
> > (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> > Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> > there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails,
so
> > I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's
OK
> > to back up and try a different approach) will help save
your "weak
> > parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> > drivetrain.
> >
> > You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But
for many
> > people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> > Jeeps.
> >
> > Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd
like
> > to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the
H2H's,
> > Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through
Upper
> > Ajax or Predator is in order.
> >
> > See ya, Tom
> >
> >
> >>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
> >>>>
> > How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires?
Is that
> > better?
> >
> > :D
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
> [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> > az_vjc@y... Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
> >
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
> >
> > Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear
tire off
> > the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're
open.
> > If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-
lok.
> > Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> > limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making
it
> > spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> > road means you're not going anywhere.
> >
> > I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
> weaknesses.
> > But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess
I
> > just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott
Kruize"
> > <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
> >
> > The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open
diff.
> > On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff
at
> > 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> > factory traclok.
> >
> >
> > The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only
12k miles.
> > These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran
a
> > Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford
8.8.
> > Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the
better
> > choice on the street.
> >
> > It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt
trail
> running,
> > hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start
> > using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> > locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd
avoid
> > locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-
road@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
> >
> >
> > Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> > they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> > NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
> >
> >
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70396 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:55am
Subject: steel source for fabrication projects
Hi all
Could someone recommend a good source for steel in the west valley?
Now that I have a garage to work in, I want to start some fabrication
projects for the Jeep. At the moment I only need small pieces of
steel plate (re-designing my engine swap motor mounts), but in the
future I'll be looking for tube and square channel. I know this has
come up before but I didn't find anything in the archives.
TIA!
Len
70397 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:10am
Subject: Conversion found
A friend of mine was at a junk yard the other day and saw a '74 Waggy that
had a small block Chevy in it. He is a fairly good mechanic. He said, it had
a TH400 in it and a part time transfer case. He said, the transfer case
looked like a D20 and the transmission didn't have an adapter on it. He
said, it looked like a really clean install.
If anyone is interested in this vehicle let me know and I will find out
exactly which yard it is in, it is in the Phoenix area.
--James
70398 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:12am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Ecology charges $134.95 for any axle you pull out of a truck. It is
on 27th Ave, I think South of Van Buren.
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@y..., Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott
> Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard
and has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's,
12bolt, 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own
parts, so bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend
a scouting trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually
pulling the parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC
they are around $200-$300.
> Len
>
>
> Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:I have a friend with a Scout that
had the spider gears go out in his
> rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
> considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards
for
> finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone
has
> a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email
and
> I'll pass on the info.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott E.
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70399 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:54am
Subject: Re: steel source for fabrication projects
Len,
Try
Glendale Steel Company
5743 W. Bethany Home Road
(South side of Bethany)
623-937-5290
They have a "remnant" pile out back and sell it by the pound. I have not been there in awhile, but the last time I was there they had quite a large selection.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Len Sullivan wrote:
Hi all
Could someone recommend a good source for steel in the west valley?
Now that I have a garage to work in, I want to start some fabrication
projects for the Jeep. At the moment I only need small pieces of
steel plate (re-designing my engine swap motor mounts), but in the
future I'll be looking for tube and square channel. I know this has
come up before but I didn't find anything in the archives.
TIA!
Len
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70375 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:31am
Subject: [FS] Full size Axels
Price: 200.00 obo
Contact: Brendan 480-986-8805
Freind has a set upf full size axels with high clearance steering on the front. beleive these are 3/4 ton axels out of a an early 70's cheverolet truck. (70-74) front pumpkin is offest to the drivers side, back pumpkin is centered.
these axels are complete but may need new brakes etc.
brendan@xterabytecomputers.com for more info.
Brendan B. Rosier
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70376 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 4:50am
Subject: Re: is this the new bfg's ????
Yup.... the BFG Krawlers
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Mike Buckner" <mbuckner@c...> wrote:
> Found this photo on the web
70377 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 5:02am
Subject: [Tech] - axle shaft
Is there any place in PHX metro area that will shorting and respline axle shafts
Chris Haley
Chris Haley
70378 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 6:40am
Subject: Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70379 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:01am
Subject: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
70380 From: rayb35az <rborden2@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:21am
Subject: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I would be happy to explain how our business works. If any of you
have ever trained anyone at your job you know how much of a hastle it
is. Our CEO understands this. If he wants his business to grow, which
it has over the years by record numbers, he knows the only way is to
hire and train more people. If he wants to hire and train more
quality people then he understands he needs to compensate the leaders
who are doing the training. If I spend my time training others and
get them going in the business, teach them how to run a business of
their own then I get an override from the business they do. We never
get paid unless we HELP a family. If you will do the research on
Citigroup you will see it is the largest company in the world and
there are nothing but great things being said in anything you read.
This business is not for everyone, there's no doubt about that. I
personally have been able to help many families improve their
financial situation either by teaching them the business to add some
income to their bottom line or educating them on how their money
works and finding solutions that save them thousands of dollars, and
I don't feel bad one bit for being able to do that.
Thanks,
Ray Borden
95YJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> Perhaps you should explain your "business" to prospective
> employees a little better, because so far all of the members of
this
> club who have talked to you believe it to be a "hierarchy". (I
think
> I misspelled it- should have been 'pyramid') You may want to clear
> up these misconceptions. Besides, the communication practice
cannot
> hurt your selling skills...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "rayb35az" <rborden2@c...> wrote:
> > I would like to appoligize to anyone that was offended by my
call.
> I
> > am new to Arizona and I don't know alot of people as I said on
the
> > phone. I have found most in the group to be very helpfull. I
wanted
> > to give my fellow jeepers first chance at this oppertunity. As
for
> it
> > being a telemarketing call, it wasn't that at all. I am not
trying
> to
> > sell anything. Our company is growing and we are looking for
> honest,
> > hard working people to open and run new offices. I have been able
> to
> > meet with a few members of the group and have helped a couple a
> great
> > deal in their lives. Because of the law I cannot say who they are
> but
> > I hope they read this and come forward. As for this being a
pyramid
> > they are illegal. Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone and
I
> > will not be calling other members of the group.
> > Thanks,
> > Ray B
> > 95YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
70381 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:19am
Subject: RE: Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I was once part of Primerica for about a month. No matter what you call it
it is still a pyramid. Yea, you hear nothing good about Citigroup but, once
you get involved all your free time is gone. At first you only start 2
nights a week, then 3, then 4, then they want your weekends. "the more days
you do the more money you make". The more people you get under you the more
free time you have. But you know what? I never seen the higher ups with any
more free time than me! Needless to say, I worked my *** for 1 month
straight and never seen a dime. So warning to all, don't do it! They might
help you financially by giving you a personal profile but thats about it. At
first you let them into your house to talk about life insurance, refinance,
next there getting you to quit your job and help them out. Just my $1 worth.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: rayb35az [mailto:rborden2@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:21 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Telemarketing calls for CitiGroup?
I would be happy to explain how our business works. If any of you
have ever trained anyone at your job you know how much of a hastle it
is. Our CEO understands this. If he wants his business to grow, which
it has over the years by record numbers, he knows the only way is to
hire and train more people. If he wants to hire and train more
quality people then he understands he needs to compensate the leaders
who are doing the training. If I spend my time training others and
get them going in the business, teach them how to run a business of
their own then I get an override from the business they do. We never
get paid unless we HELP a family. If you will do the research on
Citigroup you will see it is the largest company in the world and
there are nothing but great things being said in anything you read.
This business is not for everyone, there's no doubt about that. I
personally have been able to help many families improve their
financial situation either by teaching them the business to add some
income to their bottom line or educating them on how their money
works and finding solutions that save them thousands of dollars, and
I don't feel bad one bit for being able to do that.
Thanks,
Ray Borden
95YJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Lachlan" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Ray,
>
> Perhaps you should explain your "business" to prospective
> employees a little better, because so far all of the members of
this
> club who have talked to you believe it to be a "hierarchy". (I
think
> I misspelled it- should have been 'pyramid') You may want to clear
> up these misconceptions. Besides, the communication practice
cannot
> hurt your selling skills...
>
> Lachlan
>
>
> In az_vjc@y..., "rayb35az" <rborden2@c...> wrote:
> > I would like to appoligize to anyone that was offended by my
call.
> I
> > am new to Arizona and I don't know alot of people as I said on
the
> > phone. I have found most in the group to be very helpfull. I
wanted
> > to give my fellow jeepers first chance at this oppertunity. As
for
> it
> > being a telemarketing call, it wasn't that at all. I am not
trying
> to
> > sell anything. Our company is growing and we are looking for
> honest,
> > hard working people to open and run new offices. I have been able
> to
> > meet with a few members of the group and have helped a couple a
> great
> > deal in their lives. Because of the law I cannot say who they are
> but
> > I hope they read this and come forward. As for this being a
pyramid
> > they are illegal. Again I am sorry if I have offended anyone and
I
> > will not be calling other members of the group.
> > Thanks,
> > Ray B
> > 95YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
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70382 From: sign_xpressions <sign_xpressions@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:48am
Subject: Re: decals
I could help out....but will not be able tp print the decals in house
for that price...we use a resin printer to print on vinyl which is alot
more expensive to run....would like to know who you are having
print them and what printing method they are using....are they
printing a vector file or a bitmap....i could sell them off my
webpage for people to order....let me know..
~Andrew
www.signxpressions.com
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon Loveless-DSL" <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> I am looking for someone to take over the job of printing and
> distributing the AZVJC decals. My job has me travelling all over
the
> place and I don't have time fro wheeling much, not to mention
the job of
> decal management.
>
> There is a down side:
> 1. You need to front the $$ or find another way of distributing.
Today,
> there is a minimum order of 46 decals at 3$ plus shipping.
> 2. I use PayPal to pay for the decals so as long as people use
PayPal to
> order them everything works ok after the initial outlay.
> 3. Many people won't use PayPal. If I continue to do it I will only
> accept PayPal - it is by far the easiest way of doing this.
> 4. Unless you jack up the price of the decals you will lose a
little
> money (mostly shipping and postage.) The decasl cost $3
each plus
> shipping and I charge $3.25 for them. Shipping from the printer
is about
> $7 and PayPal takes a bit for their part each time a decal is
ordered.
>
> Other than that, it is a fun thing to do. I have been doing this for
> nearly 3 years and need someone else to take over.
>
> Any takers??
>
> Jon Loveless
> 480-816-0963
> jloveless@d...
> jloveless@d...
70383 From: armando cantu <mandocan22@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:01am
Subject: steering question '''' please read ''''
I went to the bone yard yesterday to find a steering
collumn but didnt find one on hand. does any one have
one for a 79 cj5. or know what other makes or models
of cars/ trucks columns will be compatible.
mando
79cj5
thanks
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70384 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:02am
Subject: Re: AZVJC banner
Ill take it back.. I guess my shop is good central loaction for it... just an offer..
John k
70385 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:03am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt, 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around $200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70386 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:08am
Subject: [FS] JEEP PARTS
Price:
Contact: SMCMILLAN@SANDERSONFORD.COM
HAVE A COUPLE 300 TRANSFER CASES FOR SALE
BOTH ARE IN GOOD WORKINK CONDITION
ONE ALREADY HAS 1310 YOK FOR C/V DRIVE SHAFT
THE OTHER HAS STOCK REAR YOK
ALSO HAVE YJ SPRINGS PROBABLY ABOUT 25
SOME WITH ADDED LEAFS
GIVE ME A CALL
SCOTT FABRICATIONS
602-980-1158
SMCMILLAN@SANDERSONFORD.COM
SCOTT MCMILLAN
70387 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 7:59am
Subject: RE: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are located
at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went there the
other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty knowledgable.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and has a
very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt, 14bolt, 9
inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so bring a friend
and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting trip with a tape
measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the parts. I haven't priced
a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around $200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70388 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:12am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70389 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:19am
Subject: RE: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Be sure to ask for Dave. He was very helpful when I was acquiring parts
for my tranny swap.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Trujillo, Jeff [mailto:jeff.trujillo@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
To: 'az_vjc@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are
located
at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went there
the other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty
knowledgable.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Hi Scott
Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard and
has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's, 12bolt,
14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so
bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a scouting
trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the
parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are around
$200-$300.
Len
Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in his
rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards for
finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone has
a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email and
I'll pass on the info.
Thanks,
Scott E.
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70390 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:44am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail running (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax, Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the drivetrain.
You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many people, represent about the max capability they want from their Jeeps.
Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's, Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper Ajax or Predator is in order.
See ya,
Tom
>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70391 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
I definitely agree with the driving style and auto tranny statements.
Both tend to have a dramatic impact on the lifespan of "weak parts".
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:TJacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:44 AM
To: skruize@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure there are
several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so I still
maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK to back up
and try a different approach) will help save your "weak parts". Also,
an auto tranny seems much more easy on the drivetrain.
You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
people, represent about the max capability they want from their Jeeps.
Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like to
try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's, Axle
Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper Ajax or
Predator is in order.
See ya,
Tom
>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
better?
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Jacobson [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open. If it
offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok. Don't you
think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a limited slip, the
engine will have absolutely no problem making it spin if the wheel has
lost traction? And a spinning wheel off road means you're not going
anywhere.
I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses. But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I
guess I just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700
From: "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...>
Subject: RE: Diff question
The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at 1 and
a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the factory traclok.
The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8. Both
are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better choice on
the street.
It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running, hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my NP249
is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
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70392 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:55am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
I visited AMC4x4 Salvage alot when I had a CJ7. They always helped me
out. But, as a strictly Jeep salvage, would they have Dana 60s to put
in a Scout?
-Scott E
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Be sure to ask for Dave. He was very helpful when I was acquiring
parts
> for my tranny swap.
>
> Scott K
>
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trujillo, Jeff [mailto:jeff.trujillo@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:59 AM
> To: 'az_vjc@y...'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
>
>
> www.AMC4x4.com <http://www.AMC4x4.com> 623-937-5899 they are
> located
> at 6741 West Belmont in Glendale and only deal with Jeeps. Went
there
> the other day and the customer service was great. Also pretty
> knowledgable.
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermitj10@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:03 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
>
>
>
> Hi Scott
>
>
> Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard
and
> has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's,
12bolt,
> 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own parts, so
> bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend a
scouting
> trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually pulling the
> parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC they are
around
> $200-$300.
>
>
> Len
>
>
>
>
> Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I have a friend with a Scout that had the spider gears go out in
his
> rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
> considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards
for
> finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone
has
> a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email
and
> I'll pass on the info.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott E.
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70393 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:12am
Subject: Re: Re: Diff Question
I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's just
your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock while
making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also broke
a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too loud. I
probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
-darren
Tom Jacobson wrote:
> Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
>
> I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running
> (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so
> I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK
> to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak
> parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> drivetrain.
>
> You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
> people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> Jeeps.
>
> Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like
> to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's,
> Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper
> Ajax or Predator is in order.
>
> See ya, Tom
>
>
>>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
>>>>
> How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
> better?
>
> :D
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
[mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
>
>
> I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
>
> Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
> the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open.
> If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok.
> Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it
> spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> road means you're not going anywhere.
>
> I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses.
> But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I
> just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
>
> Tom
>
> Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott Kruize"
> <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
>
> The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
> On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at
> 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> factory traclok.
>
>
> The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
> These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
> Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8.
> Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better
> choice on the street.
>
> It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running,
> hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If you start
> using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
> locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
>
>
> Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
>
>
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70394 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:35am
Subject: RE: Re: Diff Question
Here is some input for you on you parts breakage. Most of the time when you
brake a front axel it will be because you are hard locked and making a hard
turn on a hard surface. This is very typical. As for the AMC stock axel it
is also very typical for the stock two piece axels to break specially if you
have installed a hard locker. They just are not up to the task of handling
the torque an hard locker puts on them. I have even seen them brake using
limited slips.
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:r50880@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:13 AM
To: Tom Jacobson
Cc: skruize@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's just
your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock while
making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also broke
a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too loud. I
probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
-darren
Tom Jacobson wrote:
> Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
>
> I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE trail
running
> (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails, so
> I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's OK
> to back up and try a different approach) will help save your "weak
> parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> drivetrain.
>
> You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But for many
> people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> Jeeps.
>
> Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd like
> to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the H2H's,
> Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through Upper
> Ajax or Predator is in order.
>
> See ya, Tom
>
>
>>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
>>>>
> How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires? Is that
> better?
>
> :D
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
[mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
>
>
> I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
>
> Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear tire off
> the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're open.
> If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-lok.
> Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making it
> spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> road means you're not going anywhere.
>
> I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
weaknesses.
> But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess I
> just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
>
> Tom
>
> Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott Kruize"
> <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
>
> The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open diff.
> On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff at
> 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> factory traclok.
>
>
> The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only 12k miles.
> These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran a
> Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford 8.8.
> Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the better
> choice on the street.
>
> It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt trail
running,
> hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If you start
> using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd avoid
> locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
>
>
> Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
>
>
>
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70395 From: Jose Lopez <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:45am
Subject: Re: Diff Question
Oh, I definitely believe in the "luck" factor, and in the "snowball"
effect of fixing things. You fix "A" because of a problem, and then
part "B" also takes a dive due to its interaction with new part "A".
Then since you are replacing/fixing "B" you might as well work
on "C", etc. etc, etc. I believe you know what I'm talking about. -
Jose
--- In az_vjc@y..., Darren Richards <r50880@e...> wrote:
> I think you're forgetting about the "luck" factor. Sometimes it's
just
> your turn to break, no matter how easy you are on the gas pedal. I
> broke a heavy-duty warn front D30 axle on perfectly flat slickrock
while
> making a left turn. (should have got that twin stick kit.) I also
broke
> a stock rear amc20 axle while practically idling up an obstacle. I
> didn't even notice when it broke, so it must not have been too
loud. I
> probably thought it was the lock-right popping, so I kept on going.
>
> -darren
>
> Tom Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Are you trying to imply something about me or my Jeep?!?!? ;-)
> >
> > I've found my lockrited D35 (and D30) OK for 33's and MODERATE
trail
> running
> > (easy stuff on up to Terminator, Martinez, Woodpeckers, Ajax,
> > Rocker Panel, Upper Sycamore and the like). However, I'm sure
> > there are several people who have broken stuff on these trails,
so
> > I still maintain that driving style and a little humility (it's
OK
> > to back up and try a different approach) will help save
your "weak
> > parts". Also, an auto tranny seems much more easy on the
> > drivetrain.
> >
> > You're right, those aren't the difficult trails anymore. But
for many
> > people, represent about the max capability they want from their
> > Jeeps.
> >
> > Me, I'm somewhere in between. Those trails are a blast, but I'd
like
> > to try something a bit more challenging. Not ready for the
H2H's,
> > Axle Alley's or Anaconda's out there. Maybe a trip through
Upper
> > Ajax or Predator is in order.
> >
> > See ya, Tom
> >
> >
> >>>> "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> 11/12 9:12 AM >>>
> >>>>
> > How about don't lock a D35 if you wheel hard or run large tires?
Is that
> > better?
> >
> > :D
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Tom Jacobson
> [mailto:tjacobson@t...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 7:41 AM To:
> > az_vjc@y... Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Diff Question
> >
> >
> > I'd have to agree with Scott on almost everything.
> >
> > Think about how you can test for a limited slip...lift one rear
tire off
> > the ground, and try to turn it. If it spins easily, you're
open.
> > If it offers some resistance, then it's likely got the track-
lok.
> > Don't you think that if you can turn the wheel by hand with a
> > limited slip, the engine will have absolutely no problem making
it
> > spin if the wheel has lost traction? And a spinning wheel off
> > road means you're not going anywhere.
> >
> > I have to disagree with the D35 comment, though. True, it's got
> weaknesses.
> > But if you go easy on the skinny pedal, you'll be fine. I guess
I
> > just wouldn't say "DO NOT lock a D35" is all.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Message: 21 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:13:14 -0700 From: "Scott
Kruize"
> > <skruize@c...> Subject: RE: Diff question
> >
> > The traclok is a limited slip. It is an improvement over an open
diff.
> > On a 1-10 scale for traction performance I'd put the open diff
at
> > 1 and a locker at 10. Somewhere around 3 is where I'd put the
> > factory traclok.
> >
> >
> > The clutchpack in my traclok was starting to get weak at only
12k miles.
> > These things wear fairly quickly if used well. I have since ran
a
> > Detroit Softlocker in a D44 and now an ARB airlocker in a Ford
8.8.
> > Both are excellent choices offroad, though the ARB is the
better
> > choice on the street.
> >
> > It really depends on what you use your Jeep for. Normal dirt
trail
> running,
> > hunting, camping etc is probably a good use for the traclok. If
you start
> > using your Jeep on some tougher trails and rockcrawling then a
> > locker is a good upgrade as long as your axle can handle it. I'd
avoid
> > locking up a D35 for instance due to strength issues.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lopez [mailto:off-
road@c...]
> > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:57 PM To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Diff question
> >
> >
> > Any opinions on how well the factory "TRAC LOC" works?, I believe
> > they are more of a limited slip Vs a locker, but then again my
> > NP249 is not that though either :). All opinions welcome. - Jose
> >
> >
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70396 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:55am
Subject: steel source for fabrication projects
Hi all
Could someone recommend a good source for steel in the west valley?
Now that I have a garage to work in, I want to start some fabrication
projects for the Jeep. At the moment I only need small pieces of
steel plate (re-designing my engine swap motor mounts), but in the
future I'll be looking for tube and square channel. I know this has
come up before but I didn't find anything in the archives.
TIA!
Len
70397 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:10am
Subject: Conversion found
A friend of mine was at a junk yard the other day and saw a '74 Waggy that
had a small block Chevy in it. He is a fairly good mechanic. He said, it had
a TH400 in it and a part time transfer case. He said, the transfer case
looked like a D20 and the transmission didn't have an adapter on it. He
said, it looked like a really clean install.
If anyone is interested in this vehicle let me know and I will find out
exactly which yard it is in, it is in the Phoenix area.
--James
70398 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:12am
Subject: Re: Where to find a Dana 60 rear?
Ecology charges $134.95 for any axle you pull out of a truck. It is
on 27th Ave, I think South of Van Buren.
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@y..., Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott
> Pull-A-Part on Broadway (east of 35th Ave) is a "trucks only" yard
and has a very good selection of rear axles. D44's, D60's, D70's,
12bolt, 14bolt, 9 inch, you name it. You do have to pull your own
parts, so bring a friend and schedule plenty of time. I'd recommend
a scouting trip with a tape measure and note pad prior to actually
pulling the parts. I haven't priced a 3/4 ton rear lately, but IIRC
they are around $200-$300.
> Len
>
>
> Scott Edwards <azcj@y...> wrote:I have a friend with a Scout that
had the spider gears go out in his
> rear Dana 44. Rather than spend the money to fix the 44, he is
> considering an upgrade. Where are some recommended salvage yards
for
> finding Dana 60s and what do they usually get for them? If anyone
has
> a Dana 60 rear they are interested in selling, shoot me an email
and
> I'll pass on the info.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott E.
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70399 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:54am
Subject: Re: steel source for fabrication projects
Len,
Try
Glendale Steel Company
5743 W. Bethany Home Road
(South side of Bethany)
623-937-5290
They have a "remnant" pile out back and sell it by the pound. I have not been there in awhile, but the last time I was there they had quite a large selection.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Len Sullivan wrote:
Hi all
Could someone recommend a good source for steel in the west valley?
Now that I have a garage to work in, I want to start some fabrication
projects for the Jeep. At the moment I only need small pieces of
steel plate (re-designing my engine swap motor mounts), but in the
future I'll be looking for tube and square channel. I know this has
come up before but I didn't find anything in the archives.
TIA!
Len
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