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70100 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:24pm
Subject: coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70101 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:25pm
Subject: Re: SEDONA This weekend
Ah but thats here in town, I'm going to be in Sedona
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> I know of a couple of great events.
>
> One id the coves clean up and then you can go right up the street
and
> see the Fountain Hills Arts and Crafts.
>
> But you should not miss the Coves Clean up.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt aka Machew [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:19 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] SEDONA This weekend
>
> I'm going to be in Sedona this weekend, does anyone know of any
events
> that are happening this weekend?
>
> The girlfriend likes the arts, "zZzZzZzZz" The boy and I would like
to
> check out some trails.... after the walking nap. Any suggestions on
> both would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
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70102 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:34pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Stu,
I will make sure I pray for your Daughter. Is she OK?
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your Family.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead.
:)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70103 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:22pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Sorry to hear that Stu. Hope everything turns out fine. I know how that is,
my 4yr old had to have 2 hernia surgeries when she was 3 and it about broke
my heart to see her in the hospital. Be strong for her and I'll say a
prayer. 96XJ
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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70104 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:39pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Sorry to here about that. My family's prayers are with you and your
daughter. Hope everything comes out alright.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70105 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:43pm
Subject: Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Sure! D'ya think the kids would mind looking at a beat up, modified
ZJ?
Linda
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...> wrote:
> Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took
time off
> last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time
off to
> be part of this again.
> Robert
> "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> - Anonymous.
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in
California
> > > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by
some
> > > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and
plant it
> > > > in our bathroom.
> > > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you
guys
> > > > will be out there.
> > > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone
can
> > > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Dobson High
> > > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > > >
> > > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > > Bring some friends.
> > > > Should be fun.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > > brandon_towle@h...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
70106 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:50pm
Subject: [FS] 231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: brett penoyer
70107 From: Bill - Jeeps Only <bill@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:01pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
My opinion is this - the new Rubicon drives me nuts, mostly because I'm a
little jealous. Now I very much admire anyone who builds a Jeep themselves -
modifies it to make it an awesome offroad vehicle and all. But seriously if
I was buying a new Wrangler right now and had the money, I would absolutely
buy the Rubicon. I've heard nothing but good things about it. It's certainly
the most trail worthly stock Jeep ever built, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I
love my YJ and wouldn't trade it in for a Rubicon. If I personally bought a
Rubicon today it would be in addition to my YJ.
---------------
Bill Hooven
Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
---------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "astro0130" <oops__@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
70108 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:06pm
Subject: Re: coves clean up
Shes in my prayers along with you and the rest of your family. Keep us all
posted.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
> My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
>
> As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to.
> Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
>
> If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
>
> Thanks.....Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70109 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Not at all! I know I loved it when I was there.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:43 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> Sure! D'ya think the kids would mind looking at a beat up, modified
> ZJ?
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...> wrote:
> > Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took
> time off
> > last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time
> off to
> > be part of this again.
> > Robert
> > "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> > - Anonymous.
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in
> California
> > > > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by
> some
> > > > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and
> plant it
> > > > > in our bathroom.
> > > > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you
> guys
> > > > > will be out there.
> > > > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone
> can
> > > > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dobson High
> > > > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > > > >
> > > > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > > > Bring some friends.
> > > > > Should be fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon
> > > > > brandon_towle@h...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70110 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
I hear the DC dealer in Superior (or is it the Globe-Miami area) is
selling the Rubi model for $6k less than the dealers in the Phx metro
area.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill - Jeeps Only" <bill@j...> wrote:
> My opinion is this - the new Rubicon drives me nuts, mostly because
I'm a
> little jealous. Now I very much admire anyone who builds a Jeep
themselves -
> modifies it to make it an awesome offroad vehicle and all. But
seriously if
> I was buying a new Wrangler right now and had the money, I would
absolutely
> buy the Rubicon. I've heard nothing but good things about it. It's
certainly
> the most trail worthly stock Jeep ever built, IMO. Don't get me
wrong, I
> love my YJ and wouldn't trade it in for a Rubicon. If I personally
bought a
> Rubicon today it would be in addition to my YJ.
>
> ---------------
> Bill Hooven
> Jeeps Only
> http://www.jeepsonly.com
> A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "astro0130" <oops__@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> > Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new
Jeep.
> > Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to
and
> > get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> > valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> > got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> > worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so
but
> > I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out
there.
> > thanks
> > Chris George
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
70111 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:05pm
Subject: [FS] AMC20 widetrack axle shafts
Price: ???
Contact: 602-821-0818 --or-- azcj@yahoo.com
Both stock widetrack axle shafts for an AMC 20. Pulled out of my '84 CJ7 when I had a locker and Moser shafts installed. Have been sitting in a box in the garage since. Would like to get them out of the garage. Make offer.
Scott Edwards
70112 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:14pm
Subject: for sale built TJ 99
My buddy has a built Gold 99 TJ 6in Rubicon long arm lift, 1in body, arbs front rear, tera low 4:56 gears 44 rear 30 front 35in MTR cuurire front and rear bumpersm warn xd9500 I winch cd player spears custom rocker guards 10in rims has to sell a must other etc also to go with it
18500 OBO contact either Richard Logan at 888-839-3613 ext 115 or shane at 480-924-7565
70113 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:03pm
Subject: RE: need your opinion
Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the diffs
and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1 already
is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ with
D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
-----Original Message-----
From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
thanks
Chris George
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70114 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:21pm
Subject: Directions to Coves
Many have asked so here at the directions:
From the east side.
Take the 60 to Ellsworth go north on Ellsworth all the way to Bush HWY (Salt
river recreation center is on the corner). Turn left go past the Saguaro
Lake marina about 1 mile you will see a sign for Butcher Jones recreation
area. Turn right follow the road past the beach( do not stop and pay users
fee) just past the beach on the right hand side you will see the green gate.
From the North;
Take Shea to Beeline Hwy. Take Beeline hwy to Bush Hwy (Saguaro lake turn
off) Go about 5 miles you will see a sign for Butcher Jones recreation area.
Turn left follow the road past the beach( do not stop and pay users fee)
just past the beach on the right hand side you will see the green gate.
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
70115 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:31pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
"normal" D44's.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
diffs
> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
already
> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ
with
> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70116 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:32pm
Subject: RE: need your opinion
Yep. Did you check out the cross section of one of those babies? I did in
Petersons off road. They are not the standard D44 diff. and will not accept
the standard gear set.
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Siade, Randy; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] need your opinion
Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
"normal" D44's.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
diffs
> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
already
> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ
with
> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
70117 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:47pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
No worries Stu I am sure all will be fine. My thoughts and prayers are
with your daughter and you.
I will be sure to pick up some extra trash at the coves for you.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to. Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa
instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70118 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 9:14am
Subject: Re: WATER IN MASTER CYLINDER
I did that last night as well. I flushed it out twice, let me tell ya, I took it to work today it stops on a dime (not literally).
Anthony Celaya
70119 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:26pm
Subject: [FS] hard top and full steel doors -4- sale
Price: enough to get close to a soft top
Contact:
i really need to sell this top because it is getting colder by the day and my hard top wont fit over my extended role cage.so please someone help me!!the top is black and the doors are green and both in fair shape
Aaron
Aaron Rodgers
70120 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:28pm
Subject: Re: My point of view
Here's my point of view on this whole email thread:
While you guys are arguing about who is right and who is wrong (which
is really silly because you all haven't learned from all the past
arguments that people are opinionated and that won't change), I'm
melting metal together to form new parts for my Jeep.
I think I win.
:-P
Chris
BTW - Bill, where do you get these handgrenades to lob in to the group
and watch the spew? Is it those late night Tequilla sessions on the
internet?
70121 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 9:32am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
My dog died!
70122 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:33pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
So, is this just your opinion that it LOOKS like standard stuff won't
fit or do you have hard facts to back this up?
The guy has legitimate questions and does not need to be influence by
baseless information. This is not meant to be a flame, but merely meant
to make sure he has the correct info to make his decision.
I'd go for the Rubicon :-)
Chris
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 02:32 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
> Yep. Did you check out the cross section of one of those babies? I did
> in
> Petersons off road. They are not the standard D44 diff. and will not
> accept
> the standard gear set.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:31 PM
> To: Siade, Randy; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
> "normal" D44's.
>
>
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
> To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
>> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you
>> may
>> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
> diffs
>> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires
>> on it
>> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height
>> change.
>> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
> already
>> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
>> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a
>> TJ
> with
>> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in
>> you
>> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
>> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>>
>>
>> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
>> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
>> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
>> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
>> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
>> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
>> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
>> thanks
>> Chris George
>>
>>
>>
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70123 From: Jim Jones <jjones@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:43pm
Subject: Kids at the Coves
I am trying to make it out thier, but is anyone else bringing younger
ones (3 1/2 yr old)?
Just want to come out and help clean up.
Jim
70124 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:56pm
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Wow, Mike, I do believe you have managed to make the most sense out of the
original post!
I commend you on your ability to sift though what people will read into
something.
Kinda makes Joe look uneducated.
I owe you a beer!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Chatfield" <Mike@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> An INDIVIDUAL has the RIGHT to be as biased and bigoted as he/she
> chooses to be; businesses and the GOVERNMENT do not. People need to
> understand this fundamental difference.
>
> As an individual, I can choose who I want to be my friends; who I choose
> to associate with is MY business and nobody else's. Nobody has the
> right to force me to tolerate anyone else -- definitely not the
> government. If I am an employer, I have certain limitations that are
> established by law, but these laws do not and cannot apply to my
> personal life.
>
> I don't have to LIKE your lifestyle, or you or what you do. BUT I am
> (and many other veterans are) willing to fight to the death to protect
> your right to live the way that you want. But you still can't force me
> to accept it and "be your friend."
>
> I think once people stop getting confused between an individual's RIGHT
> to be different and an individual's RIGHT to accept or not accept that
> difference, this country will be a lot better off.
>
> - Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:mitchwoodward@h...]
>
> Your statement "I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because
> they
> are different, weird, or tick me off." needs to be addressed. You live
> in
> America, land of the free, with liberty and justice for all. Our
> constitution gives people the right to be different, weird, any probably
> the
> right to irritate small minded people.
>
> Mitch
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70100 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:24pm
Subject: coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
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70101 From: Matt aka Machew <wishmaaker@y...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:25pm
Subject: Re: SEDONA This weekend
Ah but thats here in town, I'm going to be in Sedona
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> I know of a couple of great events.
>
> One id the coves clean up and then you can go right up the street
and
> see the Fountain Hills Arts and Crafts.
>
> But you should not miss the Coves Clean up.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt aka Machew [mailto:wishmaaker@y...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 12:19 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] SEDONA This weekend
>
> I'm going to be in Sedona this weekend, does anyone know of any
events
> that are happening this weekend?
>
> The girlfriend likes the arts, "zZzZzZzZz" The boy and I would like
to
> check out some trails.... after the walking nap. Any suggestions on
> both would be appreciated.
>
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70102 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:34pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Stu,
I will make sure I pray for your Daughter. Is she OK?
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your Family.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead.
:)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70103 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:22pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Sorry to hear that Stu. Hope everything turns out fine. I know how that is,
my 4yr old had to have 2 hernia surgeries when she was 3 and it about broke
my heart to see her in the hospital. Be strong for her and I'll say a
prayer. 96XJ
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70104 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:39pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
Sorry to here about that. My family's prayers are with you and your
daughter. Hope everything comes out alright.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able to.
Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70105 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:43pm
Subject: Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Sure! D'ya think the kids would mind looking at a beat up, modified
ZJ?
Linda
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...> wrote:
> Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took
time off
> last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time
off to
> be part of this again.
> Robert
> "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> - Anonymous.
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in
California
> > > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by
some
> > > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and
plant it
> > > > in our bathroom.
> > > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you
guys
> > > > will be out there.
> > > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone
can
> > > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Dobson High
> > > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > > >
> > > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > > Bring some friends.
> > > > Should be fun.
> > > >
> > > > Brandon
> > > > brandon_towle@h...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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70106 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:50pm
Subject: [FS] 231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: brett penoyer
70107 From: Bill - Jeeps Only <bill@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:01pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
My opinion is this - the new Rubicon drives me nuts, mostly because I'm a
little jealous. Now I very much admire anyone who builds a Jeep themselves -
modifies it to make it an awesome offroad vehicle and all. But seriously if
I was buying a new Wrangler right now and had the money, I would absolutely
buy the Rubicon. I've heard nothing but good things about it. It's certainly
the most trail worthly stock Jeep ever built, IMO. Don't get me wrong, I
love my YJ and wouldn't trade it in for a Rubicon. If I personally bought a
Rubicon today it would be in addition to my YJ.
---------------
Bill Hooven
Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
---------------------------------------------------------
----- Original Message -----
From: "astro0130" <oops__@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
>
>
>
>
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>
>
70108 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:06pm
Subject: Re: coves clean up
Shes in my prayers along with you and the rest of your family. Keep us all
posted.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "az_vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
> My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
>
> As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to.
> Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa instead. :)
>
> If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
>
> Thanks.....Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
70109 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:07pm
Subject: Re: Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Not at all! I know I loved it when I was there.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:43 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> Sure! D'ya think the kids would mind looking at a beat up, modified
> ZJ?
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...> wrote:
> > Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took
> time off
> > last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time
> off to
> > be part of this again.
> > Robert
> > "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> > - Anonymous.
> >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in
> California
> > > > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by
> some
> > > > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and
> plant it
> > > > > in our bathroom.
> > > > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you
> guys
> > > > > will be out there.
> > > > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone
> can
> > > > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dobson High
> > > > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > > > >
> > > > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > > > Bring some friends.
> > > > > Should be fun.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brandon
> > > > > brandon_towle@h...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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70110 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
I hear the DC dealer in Superior (or is it the Globe-Miami area) is
selling the Rubi model for $6k less than the dealers in the Phx metro
area.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill - Jeeps Only" <bill@j...> wrote:
> My opinion is this - the new Rubicon drives me nuts, mostly because
I'm a
> little jealous. Now I very much admire anyone who builds a Jeep
themselves -
> modifies it to make it an awesome offroad vehicle and all. But
seriously if
> I was buying a new Wrangler right now and had the money, I would
absolutely
> buy the Rubicon. I've heard nothing but good things about it. It's
certainly
> the most trail worthly stock Jeep ever built, IMO. Don't get me
wrong, I
> love my YJ and wouldn't trade it in for a Rubicon. If I personally
bought a
> Rubicon today it would be in addition to my YJ.
>
> ---------------
> Bill Hooven
> Jeeps Only
> http://www.jeepsonly.com
> A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "astro0130" <oops__@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> > Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new
Jeep.
> > Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to
and
> > get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> > valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> > got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> > worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so
but
> > I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out
there.
> > thanks
> > Chris George
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
70111 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:05pm
Subject: [FS] AMC20 widetrack axle shafts
Price: ???
Contact: 602-821-0818 --or-- azcj@yahoo.com
Both stock widetrack axle shafts for an AMC 20. Pulled out of my '84 CJ7 when I had a locker and Moser shafts installed. Have been sitting in a box in the garage since. Would like to get them out of the garage. Make offer.
Scott Edwards
70112 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:14pm
Subject: for sale built TJ 99
My buddy has a built Gold 99 TJ 6in Rubicon long arm lift, 1in body, arbs front rear, tera low 4:56 gears 44 rear 30 front 35in MTR cuurire front and rear bumpersm warn xd9500 I winch cd player spears custom rocker guards 10in rims has to sell a must other etc also to go with it
18500 OBO contact either Richard Logan at 888-839-3613 ext 115 or shane at 480-924-7565
70113 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:03pm
Subject: RE: need your opinion
Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the diffs
and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1 already
is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ with
D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
-----Original Message-----
From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
thanks
Chris George
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70114 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:21pm
Subject: Directions to Coves
Many have asked so here at the directions:
From the east side.
Take the 60 to Ellsworth go north on Ellsworth all the way to Bush HWY (Salt
river recreation center is on the corner). Turn left go past the Saguaro
Lake marina about 1 mile you will see a sign for Butcher Jones recreation
area. Turn right follow the road past the beach( do not stop and pay users
fee) just past the beach on the right hand side you will see the green gate.
From the North;
Take Shea to Beeline Hwy. Take Beeline hwy to Bush Hwy (Saguaro lake turn
off) Go about 5 miles you will see a sign for Butcher Jones recreation area.
Turn left follow the road past the beach( do not stop and pay users fee)
just past the beach on the right hand side you will see the green gate.
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
70115 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:31pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
"normal" D44's.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
diffs
> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
already
> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ
with
> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70116 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:32pm
Subject: RE: need your opinion
Yep. Did you check out the cross section of one of those babies? I did in
Petersons off road. They are not the standard D44 diff. and will not accept
the standard gear set.
-----Original Message-----
From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Siade, Randy; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] need your opinion
Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
"normal" D44's.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you may
> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
diffs
> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires on it
> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height change.
> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
already
> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a TJ
with
> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in you
> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
> thanks
> Chris George
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70117 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:47pm
Subject: RE: coves clean up
No worries Stu I am sure all will be fine. My thoughts and prayers are
with your daughter and you.
I will be sure to pick up some extra trash at the coves for you.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:24 PM
To: az_vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] coves clean up
My 15 yr. old daughter was admitted to the hospital yesterday.
As much as I would like to see everyone at the cleanup, I won't be able
to. Maybe I can catch you all at the January cleanup at Table Mesa
instead. :)
If you find a moment, say a prayer for her.
Thanks.....Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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70118 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 9:14am
Subject: Re: WATER IN MASTER CYLINDER
I did that last night as well. I flushed it out twice, let me tell ya, I took it to work today it stops on a dime (not literally).
Anthony Celaya
70119 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:26pm
Subject: [FS] hard top and full steel doors -4- sale
Price: enough to get close to a soft top
Contact:
i really need to sell this top because it is getting colder by the day and my hard top wont fit over my extended role cage.so please someone help me!!the top is black and the doors are green and both in fair shape
Aaron
Aaron Rodgers
70120 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:28pm
Subject: Re: My point of view
Here's my point of view on this whole email thread:
While you guys are arguing about who is right and who is wrong (which
is really silly because you all haven't learned from all the past
arguments that people are opinionated and that won't change), I'm
melting metal together to form new parts for my Jeep.
I think I win.
:-P
Chris
BTW - Bill, where do you get these handgrenades to lob in to the group
and watch the spew? Is it those late night Tequilla sessions on the
internet?
70121 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 9:32am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
My dog died!
70122 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:33pm
Subject: Re: need your opinion
So, is this just your opinion that it LOOKS like standard stuff won't
fit or do you have hard facts to back this up?
The guy has legitimate questions and does not need to be influence by
baseless information. This is not meant to be a flame, but merely meant
to make sure he has the correct info to make his decision.
I'd go for the Rubicon :-)
Chris
On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 02:32 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
> Yep. Did you check out the cross section of one of those babies? I did
> in
> Petersons off road. They are not the standard D44 diff. and will not
> accept
> the standard gear set.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:31 PM
> To: Siade, Randy; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
> Randy, you're saying that the D44's used on the Rubi's aren't "real",
> "normal" D44's.
>
>
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Siade, Randy" <randy.siade@u...>
> To: "'astro0130'" <oops__@h...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 2:03 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>
>
>> Ok here is my opinion. Although the Rubicon is equipped very well you
>> may
>> not be able to make changes. I have reviewed the cross section of the
> diffs
>> and it is not like a convention gear set so say you put bigger tires
>> on it
>> and want to change gear ratios to compensate for the tire height
>> change.
>> Guess what you are out of luck. The transfer case although being 4:1
> already
>> is a chain drive and we all know chains tend to stretch and are not as
>> reliable as a gear drive transfer case. So if it was me I would by a
>> TJ
> with
>> D44 rear end and with the money you save you can put the gear set in
>> you
>> need for the tire size, install lockers and alloy axels with the 297x
>> U-joint and a 4:1 transfer case.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: astro0130 [mailto:oops__@h...]
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 1:22 PM
>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [az_vjc] need your opinion
>>
>>
>> Ok its opinion time. First off, I am looking at buying a new Jeep.
>> Most likely a Rubicon. So where is the best dealership to go to and
>> get treated fairly? If one such thing exsist. I live in the east
>> valley, but will make the trip anywhere if I need to. (I will NOT
>> got to earnhardts though) Second question, is the Rubicon really
>> worth it compared to buying a sport and upgrading it? I think so but
>> I am not as up on all the mechanical stuff as some of you out there.
>> thanks
>> Chris George
>>
>>
>>
>>
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70123 From: Jim Jones <jjones@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:43pm
Subject: Kids at the Coves
I am trying to make it out thier, but is anyone else bringing younger
ones (3 1/2 yr old)?
Just want to come out and help clean up.
Jim
70124 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 2:56pm
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Wow, Mike, I do believe you have managed to make the most sense out of the
original post!
I commend you on your ability to sift though what people will read into
something.
Kinda makes Joe look uneducated.
I owe you a beer!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Chatfield" <Mike@A...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:22 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> An INDIVIDUAL has the RIGHT to be as biased and bigoted as he/she
> chooses to be; businesses and the GOVERNMENT do not. People need to
> understand this fundamental difference.
>
> As an individual, I can choose who I want to be my friends; who I choose
> to associate with is MY business and nobody else's. Nobody has the
> right to force me to tolerate anyone else -- definitely not the
> government. If I am an employer, I have certain limitations that are
> established by law, but these laws do not and cannot apply to my
> personal life.
>
> I don't have to LIKE your lifestyle, or you or what you do. BUT I am
> (and many other veterans are) willing to fight to the death to protect
> your right to live the way that you want. But you still can't force me
> to accept it and "be your friend."
>
> I think once people stop getting confused between an individual's RIGHT
> to be different and an individual's RIGHT to accept or not accept that
> difference, this country will be a lot better off.
>
> - Mike
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:mitchwoodward@h...]
>
> Your statement "I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because
> they
> are different, weird, or tick me off." needs to be addressed. You live
> in
> America, land of the free, with liberty and justice for all. Our
> constitution gives people the right to be different, weird, any probably
> the
> right to irritate small minded people.
>
> Mitch
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