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70050 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:08am
Subject: Coves and Rain
Is this a rain or shine event?
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@JRKearney.com
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70051 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:45am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Mitch,
So I'm a homophobe because I think its wrong??? Wow that's news to me! Thank
you so much for bringing that to my attention!!! I would be so lost thinking
that wasn't afraid of gay people even though I believe its wrong. Please
educate me on how a comment like "I think that if you feel homosexuality is
wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion" is uneducated garble.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> Well said, Joe. I was thinking along similar lines about the
homosexuality
> part of it. More uneducated garble.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
> To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
>
>
> > As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> > rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
> >
> > The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> > are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> > Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things
like
> > the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> > Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson
will
> > be knocking down your door.
> >
> > Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing
that
> he
> > (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> > discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
> whites...
> > pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK
member
> > could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
> paragraph
> > is. Strike one.
> >
> > I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> > different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get
arrested
> > are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> > racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> > Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
> trend.
> > The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me
> make
> > it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
> African
> > American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can
be
> > lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> > Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
> need
> > to fix them.
> > The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
> >
> > I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes,
> a
> > newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of
fact,
> > if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!.
> My
> > father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave
the
> > countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> > Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant
of
> > the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should
have
> > the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> > wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> > speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> > understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the
government
> or
> > society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
> >
> > I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go
along
> > with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was
> born
> > in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> > continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> > great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> > Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> > Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> > nothing more.
> > Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past
> the
> > racist BS.
> > This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
> drivel
> > such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> > Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a
few
> > moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who
are
> > "different".
> >
> >
> > And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> > Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> >
> >
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70052 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:50am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Armondo,
These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank Mountains:
Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either the Jack Rabbit Trail exit
or the Miller Road Exit. Take either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road
this is immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack Rabbit
Trail, turn
right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming from Miller Rd then turn Left (East)
onto Yuma Road. Keep an eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will
take off to the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack Rabbit).
Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the freeway. Continue North past
the houses on the right and you are there.
The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they were making an off
ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is not done yet. I think going to
Miller Road is the easiest. Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the
area.
Take care,
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
armando cantu wrote:
> can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
>
> mando
> 79CJ5 yellow
>
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70053 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:08am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2964
Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
Other then that they look pretty accurate.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> To: armando cantu
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
>
>
> Armondo,
> These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> are there.
>
> The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
>
> Take care,
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8
>
> armando cantu wrote:
>
> > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> >
> > mando
> > 79CJ5 yellow
> >
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70054 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:15am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Woops, not enough coffee yet. Sorry, you are correct, South end. (but
it is North of something?) :-)
Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee . . . . .
Bob 74 CJ-5
CANT W8
DesertJeep wrote:
> Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
> Other then that they look pretty accurate.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> > To: armando cantu
> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> >
> >
> > Armondo,
> > These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> > Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> > the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> > either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> > immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> > Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> > from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> > eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> > the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> > Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> > freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> > are there.
> >
> > The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> > were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> > not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> > Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5
> > CANT W8
> >
> > armando cantu wrote:
> >
> > > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> > >
> > > mando
> > > 79CJ5 yellow
> > >
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70055 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:18am
Subject: RE: Coves and Rain
Yes. The weather report last night stated that they do not think we will see any of that rain. It will be clouding with some wind only.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@jrkearney.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:09 AM
To: Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Coves and Rain
Is this a rain or shine event?
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@JRKearney.com
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70056 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:23am
Subject: smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70057 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:25am
Subject: [FS] Warn Winch M8274 for sale
Price: $575
Contact: Kim Allen Class 602-978-5028
This Warn Winch does not fit my bumper configuration. This is the Warn high mount M8274. It is faster and more reliable than then other low mount winches in the warn range. Don’t letthe 8,000 pound load fool you, this is a powerful and strong winch. With no load the line speed is double that of a XD9000, yet the current draw is a lot lower. It is series wound, spur gear driven. 5/16 wire rope 150' long. Warn part # 38631
Kim Allen Class
70058 From: <AZICE626@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:25am
Subject: Re: Coves and Rain
I like your forcast better.....the news I watched last nite called for a better chance of rain than they were predicting all week.....
70059 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:27am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
Have you tried Fabreeze? it worked on cat odor in my Jeep
---- Original Message -----
From: TRobertsRN
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70060 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:29am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2962
I have to comment on that also. I too am a little green to 4X4 parts, I'm a
Helicopter mechanic so I am mechanically inclined but when it comes to
vehicles, thats another story. I can work on trucks if I have a book and
usually do my own work, but normally I call my brother (ASE certified). I
find that when I go to Desert Rat or the other one at Broadway and Alma
School I get the "I am better than you, you don't know ****, so I will be
very vaque, and barely answer you to even further cloud your question
attitude". About a month ago I ordered some leaf springs and they said
"they'll be here in 5 to 7 working days" Well, 1 1/2 months later I still
had no parts and when I called up there they would say "I'll check on that
order and call you in the morning" Needless to say after about 3 of those
promises, I had to go up there myself and just cancelled my order. So now I
am at the point instead of dealing with the "unless you have a $100,000 rig,
your a piece of ****, attitude" I'd rather drive 2 1/2 hrs away and take my
truck to my brother where I know it will be done correctly and he will
always answer my questions correctly and completely. I will jump off of my
soap box now. Just my .10 worth.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: azdesertrhino@a... [mailto:azdesertrhino@a...]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2962
Being green to Jeeps and 4 wheeling, I made the mistake of going to Desert
Rat. I am sure to the veteran 4 wheeler or Jeep owner my questions were
very amatuerish but hell, that's what I am. Needless to say, I got less
than cordial service and no answers, so now I spend my dollars elsewhere.
Jim
Tucson 76 CJ-5
In a message dated 11/7/2002 4:13:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
I get about the same quality of
service at Desert Rat as I do at your average Burger King drive thru
window.
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70061 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:52am
Subject: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took time off
last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time off to
be part of this again.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> >
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in California
> > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by some
> > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and plant it
> > > in our bathroom.
> > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you guys
> > > will be out there.
> > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone can
> > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Dobson High
> > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > >
> > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > Bring some friends.
> > > Should be fun.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > > brandon_towle@h...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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70062 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:59am
Subject: coves and rain
My weather bug say 20% chance but windy
70063 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:00am
Subject: 9000 shocks
Looking for shocks used rancho 9000 29in
70064 From: Bill - Jeeps Only <bill@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:02am
Subject: Re: Does 4 wheelers EVER answer their phone?
Ha! I was in the store about the time you wrote this and it was crazy. Are
you the freaking caller that interrupted my time with the guy at the counter
since he had to answer the phone :-)? Actually the phones were ringing off
the hook and the guys behind the counter were running around going nuts. I
guess everyone's getting ready for some 4 wheeling for the holiday weekend.
---------------
Bill Hooven
Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Does 4 wheelers EVER answer their phone?
> Just got done waiting 15 minutes on hold with 4 wheelers supply. They
> did the whole "Can you hold please?" and then put me on eternal hold. I
> called back and they did the same thing!
>
> Are they really that busy on a Thursday afternoon?!?! I just wanted a
> price on a Lock Right from them, but I guess I'll just go to Desert
> Rodent since they answer their phone and have the price listed on their
> web site!
>
> Mike
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70065 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:06am
Subject: Re: Re: BFG Krawler update
It's funny...........with all of the "craze" to go to MT/R's (which IS a good
tire by the way), now 40" MT/R's, BFG Krawler's, etc.......... I feel so out
of date with my tried and true 38.5" TSL/SX's on 15's. Guess I will just
have to go scrap those damned things. We all know they don't work anyway!
;-)
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70066 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:16am
Subject: RE: Re: BFG Krawler update
LOL I have not used anything in the AZ rocks but TSL/SXs for over 10 years
and I have never cut a side wall on them. Until some one comes with a tire
just as tuff I will stick with them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Eller [mailto:jay@t...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:07 AM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: BFG Krawler update
It's funny...........with all of the "craze" to go to MT/R's (which IS a
good
tire by the way), now 40" MT/R's, BFG Krawler's, etc.......... I feel so out
of date with my tried and true 38.5" TSL/SX's on 15's. Guess I will just
have to go scrap those damned things. We all know they don't work anyway!
;-)
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70067 From: Mitch Woodward <mitchwoodward@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:18am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Robert,
Homophobia is the fear of your own homosexuality, not liking homosexuals
because you think their lifestyle is wrong...that's just bigotry. The
statement singles out a particular group, like Joe W. pointed out about the
blacks. Gay people actually have it pretty bad compared to other groups out
there. While many people are racist against skin color and religion, most
people out there are bigoted against homosexuals. The thing that bothers me
about this is that most of the homosexuals I've run across, in my short time
on this planet, are the nicest people around.
I'm no liberal, but the original statement posted by bill can be torn apart
so easily. At first read I can start to identify with many of the things in
there, but then I get to the overtones of religion, bigotry, and I'm not
going to spend any more time on this now, as I've got a dirty truck I want
to wash before work :-)
Bill,
Your statement "I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they
are different, weird, or tick me off." needs to be addressed. You live in
America, land of the free, with liberty and justice for all. Our
constitution gives people the right to be different, weird, any probably the
right to irritate small minded people.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...>
To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> Mitch,
> So I'm a homophobe because I think its wrong??? Wow that's news to me!
Thank
> you so much for bringing that to my attention!!! I would be so lost
thinking
> that wasn't afraid of gay people even though I believe its wrong. Please
> educate me on how a comment like "I think that if you feel homosexuality
is
> wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion" is uneducated garble.
>
> Robert
> "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> - Anonymous.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
> To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
>
>
> > Well said, Joe. I was thinking along similar lines about the
> homosexuality
> > part of it. More uneducated garble.
> >
> > Mitch
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
> > To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> >
> >
> > > As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> > > rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
> > >
> > > The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> > > are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> > > Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things
> like
> > > the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> > > Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson
> will
> > > be knocking down your door.
> > >
> > > Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing
> that
> > he
> > > (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> > > discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
> > whites...
> > > pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK
> member
> > > could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
> > paragraph
> > > is. Strike one.
> > >
> > > I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> > > different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get
> arrested
> > > are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> > > racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> > > Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
> > trend.
> > > The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let
me
> > make
> > > it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
> > African
> > > American and only 23% of the population are African American... one
can
> be
> > > lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> > > Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
> > need
> > > to fix them.
> > > The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
> > >
> > > I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
> cigarettes,
> > a
> > > newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of
> fact,
> > > if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak
English!.
> > My
> > > father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave
> the
> > > countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> > > Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant
> of
> > > the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should
> have
> > > the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> > > wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can...
and
> > > speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> > > understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the
> government
> > or
> > > society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
> > >
> > > I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go
> along
> > > with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them
was
> > born
> > > in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is
a
> > > continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because
my
> > > great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> > > Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> > > Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> > > nothing more.
> > > Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get
past
> > the
> > > racist BS.
> > > This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
> > drivel
> > > such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> > > Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a
> few
> > > moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who
> are
> > > "different".
> > >
> > >
> > > And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> > > Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
70068 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:19am
Subject: RE: 9000 shocks
You really want to go with the longer ones in the front. Go with the 13+ " travel shocks. I use them and I can eat up all but about 1/2" of their stroke on the ramp.
-----Original Message-----
From: richard logan [mailto:rlogan@dialresults.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:00 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 9000 shocks
Looking for shocks used rancho 9000 29in
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70069 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:27am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
I dunno, Joe. It seems that because you've lived more lives than most,
and you compose your emails from a Sun workstation running Unix, that
you feel your opinions carry more weight and you can call other people's
opinions rubbish. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is my final
life before I achieve perfection, AND I'm sitting in front of a Sun
workstation running Solaris right now. :) While I probably could have
been a bit more eloquent than the original post, I feel that his point
was well made, and I can sum up my response to it in two words: HELL YEAH.
regards,
darren
Joe W wrote:
> As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
>
> The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like
> the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will
> be knocking down your door.
>
> Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing that he
> (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against whites...
> pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK member
> could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this paragraph
> is. Strike one.
>
> I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested
> are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a trend.
> The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me make
> it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are African
> American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can be
> lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE need
> to fix them.
> The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
>
> I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a
> newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact,
> if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!. My
> father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the
> countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant of
> the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should have
> the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the government or
> society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
>
> I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along
> with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born
> in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> nothing more.
> Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past the
> racist BS.
> This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded drivel
> such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a few
> moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who are
> "different".
>
>
> And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
70070 From: Larry George <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:45am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
I don't know of one, when I used to smoke I smoked in my Jeep, I
figured if the top was NEVER on I would have no problems with the
ODOR, the smell of smoke is just now non-existant, it has been about
a year and a half since I quit smoking and that was with the top off.
On the other hand, my wifes Grand Cherokee the previous owner
smoked in it, obvious by the two cigarette burns in the roof of the
interior, and you can't even smell it. So I don't know the only thing
I could think of is Fabreeze, that stuff works great.
JEEP THANG
--- In az_vjc@y..., "TRobertsRN" <TRobertsRN@e...> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to
eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
>
> Thomas Roberts
> 78 Cherokee WT
> 360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
> A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
> Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
> Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
> Gilbert, Arizona
>
>
>
>
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70071 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:02am
Subject: RE: smoke odor
ummmm.... quit smoking in it?
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: TRobertsRN [mailto:TRobertsRN@email.msn.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:24 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70072 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:14am
Subject: RE: My point of view
Oh... you haven't yet achieved perfection... *Now* I understand....
Talk to me again in a hundred or so lives after you achieve perfection and
you'll be much better equipped to understand.
<grin>
By the way, I really don't think that my opinions carry more weight but you
are right that I can call other peoples writing rubbish when they are
rubbish.
That post was nothing more than the racist output from a very small mind....
it had only one redeeming quality in my mind; it reminded me that folks like
this still exist in America. I don't tend to travel in circles where such
small intellect is the norm so I tend to be somewhat filtered from such
bigotry, intolerance, and hatred pontificated in that diatribe passed along
by Bill. Even if that post was a joke... it was a poor one.
And for those of you who agree with such things; I am truly embarrassed for
you.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:r50880@e...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:27 AM
To: arizonajeep@c...
Cc: 'Bill Mish'; '1'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
I dunno, Joe. It seems that because you've lived more lives than most,
and you compose your emails from a Sun workstation running Unix, that
you feel your opinions carry more weight and you can call other people's
opinions rubbish. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is my final
life before I achieve perfection, AND I'm sitting in front of a Sun
workstation running Solaris right now. :) While I probably could have
been a bit more eloquent than the original post, I feel that his point
was well made, and I can sum up my response to it in two words: HELL YEAH.
regards,
darren
Joe W wrote:
> As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
>
> The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like
> the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will
> be knocking down your door.
>
> Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing that
he
> (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
whites...
> pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK member
> could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
paragraph
> is. Strike one.
>
> I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested
> are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
trend.
> The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me
make
> it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
African
> American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can be
> lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
need
> to fix them.
> The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
>
> I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes,
a
> newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact,
> if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!.
My
> father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the
> countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant of
> the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should have
> the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the government
or
> society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
>
> I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along
> with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was
born
> in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> nothing more.
> Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past
the
> racist BS.
> This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
drivel
> such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a few
> moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who are
> "different".
>
>
> And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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70073 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:31am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Take Watson north until the road curve back to the east......look to the
north east and you should the the sand hills. This is a great place to
ride, just watch out for us crazies in our Jeeps!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Robert Peck'" <rlpii@q...>; "'armando cantu'"
<mandocan22@y...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
> Other then that they look pretty accurate.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> > To: armando cantu
> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> >
> >
> > Armondo,
> > These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> > Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> > the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> > either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> > immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> > Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> > from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> > eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> > the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> > Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> > freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> > are there.
> >
> > The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> > were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> > not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> > Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5
> > CANT W8
> >
> > armando cantu wrote:
> >
> > > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> > >
> > > mando
> > > 79CJ5 yellow
> > >
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70074 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:36am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
A BB gun worked on the cat order in my Jeep!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Have you tried Fabreeze? it worked on cat odor in my Jeep
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: TRobertsRN
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
>
>
>
>
> Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to
eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
>
> Thomas Roberts
> 78 Cherokee WT
> 360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
> A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
> Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
> Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
> Gilbert, Arizona
>
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70050 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:08am
Subject: Coves and Rain
Is this a rain or shine event?
Joe Kearney
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70051 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:45am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Mitch,
So I'm a homophobe because I think its wrong??? Wow that's news to me! Thank
you so much for bringing that to my attention!!! I would be so lost thinking
that wasn't afraid of gay people even though I believe its wrong. Please
educate me on how a comment like "I think that if you feel homosexuality is
wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion" is uneducated garble.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> Well said, Joe. I was thinking along similar lines about the
homosexuality
> part of it. More uneducated garble.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
> To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
>
>
> > As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> > rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
> >
> > The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> > are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> > Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things
like
> > the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> > Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson
will
> > be knocking down your door.
> >
> > Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing
that
> he
> > (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> > discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
> whites...
> > pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK
member
> > could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
> paragraph
> > is. Strike one.
> >
> > I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> > different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get
arrested
> > are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> > racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> > Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
> trend.
> > The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me
> make
> > it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
> African
> > American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can
be
> > lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> > Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
> need
> > to fix them.
> > The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
> >
> > I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
cigarettes,
> a
> > newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of
fact,
> > if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!.
> My
> > father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave
the
> > countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> > Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant
of
> > the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should
have
> > the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> > wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> > speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> > understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the
government
> or
> > society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
> >
> > I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go
along
> > with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was
> born
> > in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> > continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> > great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> > Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> > Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> > nothing more.
> > Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past
> the
> > racist BS.
> > This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
> drivel
> > such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> > Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a
few
> > moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who
are
> > "different".
> >
> >
> > And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> > Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
70052 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 5:50am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Armondo,
These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank Mountains:
Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either the Jack Rabbit Trail exit
or the Miller Road Exit. Take either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road
this is immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack Rabbit
Trail, turn
right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming from Miller Rd then turn Left (East)
onto Yuma Road. Keep an eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will
take off to the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack Rabbit).
Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the freeway. Continue North past
the houses on the right and you are there.
The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they were making an off
ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is not done yet. I think going to
Miller Road is the easiest. Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the
area.
Take care,
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
armando cantu wrote:
> can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
>
> mando
> 79CJ5 yellow
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70053 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:08am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2964
Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
Other then that they look pretty accurate.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> To: armando cantu
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
>
>
> Armondo,
> These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> are there.
>
> The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
>
> Take care,
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8
>
> armando cantu wrote:
>
> > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> >
> > mando
> > 79CJ5 yellow
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70054 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:15am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Woops, not enough coffee yet. Sorry, you are correct, South end. (but
it is North of something?) :-)
Coffee, Coffee, Coffee, Coffee . . . . .
Bob 74 CJ-5
CANT W8
DesertJeep wrote:
> Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
> Other then that they look pretty accurate.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> > To: armando cantu
> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> >
> >
> > Armondo,
> > These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> > Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> > the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> > either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> > immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> > Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> > from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> > eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> > the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> > Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> > freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> > are there.
> >
> > The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> > were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> > not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> > Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5
> > CANT W8
> >
> > armando cantu wrote:
> >
> > > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> > >
> > > mando
> > > 79CJ5 yellow
> > >
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70055 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:18am
Subject: RE: Coves and Rain
Yes. The weather report last night stated that they do not think we will see any of that rain. It will be clouding with some wind only.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@jrkearney.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:09 AM
To: Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Coves and Rain
Is this a rain or shine event?
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@JRKearney.com
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70056 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:23am
Subject: smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70057 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:25am
Subject: [FS] Warn Winch M8274 for sale
Price: $575
Contact: Kim Allen Class 602-978-5028
This Warn Winch does not fit my bumper configuration. This is the Warn high mount M8274. It is faster and more reliable than then other low mount winches in the warn range. Don’t letthe 8,000 pound load fool you, this is a powerful and strong winch. With no load the line speed is double that of a XD9000, yet the current draw is a lot lower. It is series wound, spur gear driven. 5/16 wire rope 150' long. Warn part # 38631
Kim Allen Class
70058 From: <AZICE626@a...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 1:25am
Subject: Re: Coves and Rain
I like your forcast better.....the news I watched last nite called for a better chance of rain than they were predicting all week.....
70059 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:27am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
Have you tried Fabreeze? it worked on cat odor in my Jeep
---- Original Message -----
From: TRobertsRN
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:23 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70060 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:29am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2962
I have to comment on that also. I too am a little green to 4X4 parts, I'm a
Helicopter mechanic so I am mechanically inclined but when it comes to
vehicles, thats another story. I can work on trucks if I have a book and
usually do my own work, but normally I call my brother (ASE certified). I
find that when I go to Desert Rat or the other one at Broadway and Alma
School I get the "I am better than you, you don't know ****, so I will be
very vaque, and barely answer you to even further cloud your question
attitude". About a month ago I ordered some leaf springs and they said
"they'll be here in 5 to 7 working days" Well, 1 1/2 months later I still
had no parts and when I called up there they would say "I'll check on that
order and call you in the morning" Needless to say after about 3 of those
promises, I had to go up there myself and just cancelled my order. So now I
am at the point instead of dealing with the "unless you have a $100,000 rig,
your a piece of ****, attitude" I'd rather drive 2 1/2 hrs away and take my
truck to my brother where I know it will be done correctly and he will
always answer my questions correctly and completely. I will jump off of my
soap box now. Just my .10 worth.
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: azdesertrhino@a... [mailto:azdesertrhino@a...]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2962
Being green to Jeeps and 4 wheeling, I made the mistake of going to Desert
Rat. I am sure to the veteran 4 wheeler or Jeep owner my questions were
very amatuerish but hell, that's what I am. Needless to say, I got less
than cordial service and no answers, so now I spend my dollars elsewhere.
Jim
Tucson 76 CJ-5
In a message dated 11/7/2002 4:13:51 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
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I get about the same quality of
service at Desert Rat as I do at your average Burger King drive thru
window.
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70061 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:52am
Subject: Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
Is any one going to be doing this. I know that some people took time off
last time and cant do that again. I am going to try an get the time off to
be part of this again.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kasperwk" <brandon_towle@h...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 7:42 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Dobson High Campus Invasion, Nov 15th
> >
> >
> > > Thanks to everyone who showed up on Oct. 25th. I was in California
> > > and came back to hear all of my plans had been deminished by some
> > > kids who thought it would be cool to make a fake bomb and plant it
> > > in our bathroom.
> > > The group Four Banger, a punk rock group, and hopefully you guys
> > > will be out there.
> > > It is going to be more like a park and show. I hope someone can
> > > bring the banner. I am looking for about 10 Jeeps.
> > > Plan to attend and RSVP to me as soon as possible.
> > >
> > > Dobson High
> > > 1501 W. Guadalupe
> > > Nov. 15th, 2002
> > >
> > > Need to be there by 10:45, the band will play from 11-12 noon.
> > > Bring some friends.
> > > Should be fun.
> > >
> > > Brandon
> > > brandon_towle@h...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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70062 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 6:59am
Subject: coves and rain
My weather bug say 20% chance but windy
70063 From: richard logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:00am
Subject: 9000 shocks
Looking for shocks used rancho 9000 29in
70064 From: Bill - Jeeps Only <bill@j...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:02am
Subject: Re: Does 4 wheelers EVER answer their phone?
Ha! I was in the store about the time you wrote this and it was crazy. Are
you the freaking caller that interrupted my time with the guy at the counter
since he had to answer the phone :-)? Actually the phones were ringing off
the hook and the guys behind the counter were running around going nuts. I
guess everyone's getting ready for some 4 wheeling for the holiday weekend.
---------------
Bill Hooven
Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory of Jeep links
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Golden" <mgolden@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Does 4 wheelers EVER answer their phone?
> Just got done waiting 15 minutes on hold with 4 wheelers supply. They
> did the whole "Can you hold please?" and then put me on eternal hold. I
> called back and they did the same thing!
>
> Are they really that busy on a Thursday afternoon?!?! I just wanted a
> price on a Lock Right from them, but I guess I'll just go to Desert
> Rodent since they answer their phone and have the price listed on their
> web site!
>
> Mike
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70065 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:06am
Subject: Re: Re: BFG Krawler update
It's funny...........with all of the "craze" to go to MT/R's (which IS a good
tire by the way), now 40" MT/R's, BFG Krawler's, etc.......... I feel so out
of date with my tried and true 38.5" TSL/SX's on 15's. Guess I will just
have to go scrap those damned things. We all know they don't work anyway!
;-)
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70066 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:16am
Subject: RE: Re: BFG Krawler update
LOL I have not used anything in the AZ rocks but TSL/SXs for over 10 years
and I have never cut a side wall on them. Until some one comes with a tire
just as tuff I will stick with them.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Eller [mailto:jay@t...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:07 AM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: BFG Krawler update
It's funny...........with all of the "craze" to go to MT/R's (which IS a
good
tire by the way), now 40" MT/R's, BFG Krawler's, etc.......... I feel so out
of date with my tried and true 38.5" TSL/SX's on 15's. Guess I will just
have to go scrap those damned things. We all know they don't work anyway!
;-)
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70067 From: Mitch Woodward <mitchwoodward@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:18am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
Robert,
Homophobia is the fear of your own homosexuality, not liking homosexuals
because you think their lifestyle is wrong...that's just bigotry. The
statement singles out a particular group, like Joe W. pointed out about the
blacks. Gay people actually have it pretty bad compared to other groups out
there. While many people are racist against skin color and religion, most
people out there are bigoted against homosexuals. The thing that bothers me
about this is that most of the homosexuals I've run across, in my short time
on this planet, are the nicest people around.
I'm no liberal, but the original statement posted by bill can be torn apart
so easily. At first read I can start to identify with many of the things in
there, but then I get to the overtones of religion, bigotry, and I'm not
going to spend any more time on this now, as I've got a dirty truck I want
to wash before work :-)
Bill,
Your statement "I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they
are different, weird, or tick me off." needs to be addressed. You live in
America, land of the free, with liberty and justice for all. Our
constitution gives people the right to be different, weird, any probably the
right to irritate small minded people.
Mitch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert McNeeley" <fatbob309@e...>
To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> Mitch,
> So I'm a homophobe because I think its wrong??? Wow that's news to me!
Thank
> you so much for bringing that to my attention!!! I would be so lost
thinking
> that wasn't afraid of gay people even though I believe its wrong. Please
> educate me on how a comment like "I think that if you feel homosexuality
is
> wrong, it is not a phobia, it is an opinion" is uneducated garble.
>
> Robert
> "Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
> - Anonymous.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitch Woodward" <mitchwoodward@h...>
> To: <arizonajeep@c...>; "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
>
>
> > Well said, Joe. I was thinking along similar lines about the
> homosexuality
> > part of it. More uneducated garble.
> >
> > Mitch
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe W" <arizonajeep@c...>
> > To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:09 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
> >
> >
> > > As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> > > rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
> > >
> > > The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> > > are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> > > Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things
> like
> > > the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> > > Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson
> will
> > > be knocking down your door.
> > >
> > > Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing
> that
> > he
> > > (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> > > discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
> > whites...
> > > pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK
> member
> > > could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
> > paragraph
> > > is. Strike one.
> > >
> > > I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> > > different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get
> arrested
> > > are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> > > racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> > > Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
> > trend.
> > > The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let
me
> > make
> > > it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
> > African
> > > American and only 23% of the population are African American... one
can
> be
> > > lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> > > Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
> > need
> > > to fix them.
> > > The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
> > >
> > > I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of
> cigarettes,
> > a
> > > newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of
> fact,
> > > if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak
English!.
> > My
> > > father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave
> the
> > > countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> > > Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant
> of
> > > the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should
> have
> > > the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> > > wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can...
and
> > > speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> > > understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the
> government
> > or
> > > society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
> > >
> > > I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go
> along
> > > with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them
was
> > born
> > > in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is
a
> > > continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because
my
> > > great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> > > Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> > > Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> > > nothing more.
> > > Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get
past
> > the
> > > racist BS.
> > > This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
> > drivel
> > > such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> > > Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a
> few
> > > moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who
> are
> > > "different".
> > >
> > >
> > > And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> > > Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
> > >
> > > Joe West
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
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> >
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70068 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:19am
Subject: RE: 9000 shocks
You really want to go with the longer ones in the front. Go with the 13+ " travel shocks. I use them and I can eat up all but about 1/2" of their stroke on the ramp.
-----Original Message-----
From: richard logan [mailto:rlogan@dialresults.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:00 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] 9000 shocks
Looking for shocks used rancho 9000 29in
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70069 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:27am
Subject: Re: My point of veiw
I dunno, Joe. It seems that because you've lived more lives than most,
and you compose your emails from a Sun workstation running Unix, that
you feel your opinions carry more weight and you can call other people's
opinions rubbish. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is my final
life before I achieve perfection, AND I'm sitting in front of a Sun
workstation running Solaris right now. :) While I probably could have
been a bit more eloquent than the original post, I feel that his point
was well made, and I can sum up my response to it in two words: HELL YEAH.
regards,
darren
Joe W wrote:
> As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
>
> The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like
> the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will
> be knocking down your door.
>
> Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing that he
> (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against whites...
> pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK member
> could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this paragraph
> is. Strike one.
>
> I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested
> are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a trend.
> The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me make
> it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are African
> American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can be
> lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE need
> to fix them.
> The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
>
> I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes, a
> newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact,
> if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!. My
> father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the
> countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant of
> the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should have
> the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the government or
> society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
>
> I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along
> with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was born
> in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> nothing more.
> Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past the
> racist BS.
> This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded drivel
> such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a few
> moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who are
> "different".
>
>
> And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
>
> Joe West
>
>
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70070 From: Larry George <jeep_thang@h...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 7:45am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
I don't know of one, when I used to smoke I smoked in my Jeep, I
figured if the top was NEVER on I would have no problems with the
ODOR, the smell of smoke is just now non-existant, it has been about
a year and a half since I quit smoking and that was with the top off.
On the other hand, my wifes Grand Cherokee the previous owner
smoked in it, obvious by the two cigarette burns in the roof of the
interior, and you can't even smell it. So I don't know the only thing
I could think of is Fabreeze, that stuff works great.
JEEP THANG
--- In az_vjc@y..., "TRobertsRN" <TRobertsRN@e...> wrote:
>
>
> Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to
eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
>
> Thomas Roberts
> 78 Cherokee WT
> 360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
> A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
> Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
> Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
> Gilbert, Arizona
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70071 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:02am
Subject: RE: smoke odor
ummmm.... quit smoking in it?
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: TRobertsRN [mailto:TRobertsRN@email.msn.com]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:24 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona
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70072 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:14am
Subject: RE: My point of view
Oh... you haven't yet achieved perfection... *Now* I understand....
Talk to me again in a hundred or so lives after you achieve perfection and
you'll be much better equipped to understand.
<grin>
By the way, I really don't think that my opinions carry more weight but you
are right that I can call other peoples writing rubbish when they are
rubbish.
That post was nothing more than the racist output from a very small mind....
it had only one redeeming quality in my mind; it reminded me that folks like
this still exist in America. I don't tend to travel in circles where such
small intellect is the norm so I tend to be somewhat filtered from such
bigotry, intolerance, and hatred pontificated in that diatribe passed along
by Bill. Even if that post was a joke... it was a poor one.
And for those of you who agree with such things; I am truly embarrassed for
you.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:r50880@e...]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:27 AM
To: arizonajeep@c...
Cc: 'Bill Mish'; '1'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] My point of veiw
I dunno, Joe. It seems that because you've lived more lives than most,
and you compose your emails from a Sun workstation running Unix, that
you feel your opinions carry more weight and you can call other people's
opinions rubbish. I hate to burst your bubble, but this is my final
life before I achieve perfection, AND I'm sitting in front of a Sun
workstation running Solaris right now. :) While I probably could have
been a bit more eloquent than the original post, I feel that his point
was well made, and I can sum up my response to it in two words: HELL YEAH.
regards,
darren
Joe W wrote:
> As with most things in life... some of this stuff is good and some is
> rubbish... here's a bit of the rubbish:
>
> The only things I can think of that are truly discriminatory
> are things like the United Negro College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black
> Entertainment Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have things like
> the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud Magazine, White Entertainment
> Television, or Miss White America and see what happens. Jesse Jackson will
> be knocking down your door.
>
> Whoever wrote this clearly doesn't get around much if the only thing that
he
> (we know a woman didn't write this don't we) can list as being
> discriminatory are things related to blacks discriminating against
whites...
> pleasssseeeeeeeee... what rubbish is this? Even a weak minded KKK member
> could do better. Very thinly veiled attempt at racism is all this
paragraph
> is. Strike one.
>
> I have the right "NOT" to be tolerant of others because they are
> different, weird, or tick me off. When 70% of the people who get arrested
> are black, in cities where 70% of the population is black, that is not
> racial profiling, it is the law of statistics.
> Another focus on Blacks... Hmmmmm... this appears to be somewhat of a
trend.
> The idiot clearly doesn't understand the term "normalization" . Let me
make
> it easy for him... when 70% of the people incarcerated in the US are
African
> American and only 23% of the population are African American... one can be
> lead to believe that there are "issues" which cause such a disparity.
> Regardless of what the issues are; they belong to all Americans and WE
need
> to fix them.
> The focus on African Americans yet again... Strike two.
>
> I believe that if you are selling me a milk shake, a pack of cigarettes,
a
> newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in English! As a matter of fact,
> if you want to be an American citizen you should have to speak English!.
My
> father and grandfather shouldn't have to die in vain so you can leave the
> countries you were born in to come over and disrespect ours.
> Really? I think if you want to be an American, you should be tolerant of
> the religious and ethnic origins of all peoples... and people should have
> the FREEDOM to speak whatever language they want, whenever they want,
> wherever they want. People should learn English as best they can... and
> speak whatever language they need to survive here. Speaking and
> understanding English should be a goal; not a mandate from the government
or
> society. More racial overtones... Strike three.
>
> I am sick of "Political Correctness" and of all the suck ups that go along
> with it. I know a lot of black people, and not a single one of them was
born
> in Africa, so how can they be "African-Americans"? Besides, Africa is a
> continent. I don't go around saying I am a European-American because my
> great, great, great, great, great, great grandfather was from
> Europe. I am proud to be from America and nowhere else.
> Another focus on Blacks... <sigh> This person is a looser racist, and
> nothing more.
> Even if I could find one thing to agree with him on... I can't get past
the
> racist BS.
> This person needs to live a few more lives to "get it". Weak minded
drivel
> such as this is what propagates a weak minded society.
> Perhaps the few people who openly agree with this crap need to take a few
> moments and reflect on the striking focus on foreigners and those who are
> "different".
>
>
> And if you don't like my point of view, tough ****!
> Another excellent comment from a clearly single celled organism.
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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70073 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:31am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2964
Take Watson north until the road curve back to the east......look to the
north east and you should the the sand hills. This is a great place to
ride, just watch out for us crazies in our Jeeps!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Robert Peck'" <rlpii@q...>; "'armando cantu'"
<mandocan22@y...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> Those are actually directions to the SOUTH side of the White Tanks.
> Other then that they look pretty accurate.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 6:50 AM
> > To: armando cantu
> > Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2964
> >
> >
> > Armondo,
> > These are the directions to the North side of the White Tank
> > Mountains: Take I-10 West from Phoenix. You can take either
> > the Jack Rabbit Trail exit or the Miller Road Exit. Take
> > either road South to Yuma Rd; for Miller Road this is
> > immediately after the Freeway Overpass. If coming from Jack
> > Rabbit Trail, turn right (West) onto Yuma Road; if coming
> > from Miller Rd then turn Left (East) onto Yuma Road. Keep an
> > eye out for Watson Road (Grated Dirt) which will take off to
> > the North (about 1 mile from Miller, 2 miles from Jack
> > Rabbit). Take Watson Road North; it will cross under the
> > freeway. Continue North past the houses on the right and you
> > are there.
> >
> > The last time I was out West on I-10, it looked like they
> > were making an off ramp for Watson Road, but I'm sure it is
> > not done yet. I think going to Miller Road is the easiest.
> > Checkout the AZVJC web site for trails in the area.
> >
> > Take care,
> > Bob
> > 74 CJ-5
> > CANT W8
> >
> > armando cantu wrote:
> >
> > > can any one give me directions to white tanks. I have
> > > never been there but in addition to jeeping the kids
> > > want to ride their quads. the river bottom is closed
> > > so this would be the closest to me. I lvie in the 91
> > > and mcdowell area. directions would be great.
> > >
> > > mando
> > > 79CJ5 yellow
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70074 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:36am
Subject: Re: smoke odor
A BB gun worked on the cat order in my Jeep!
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Have you tried Fabreeze? it worked on cat odor in my Jeep
>
> ---- Original Message -----
> From: TRobertsRN
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:23 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] smoke odor
>
>
>
>
> Anyone know a good product I can buy in a local store today to
eliminate cig smoke odor? From my Jeep?
>
> Thomas Roberts
> 78 Cherokee WT
> 360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
> A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
> Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
> Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
> Gilbert, Arizona
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