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69725 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:39am
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
Last time I found myself in 3 wheel drive it was because my axle snapped
right where it enters the carrier. It was one of the heavy-duty Warn
D30 axles, too... I have a lock-right in the front. If you still have
3 wheel drive, and there are no noises coming from the front diff, I'd
suspect that the locker isn't the problem...
-darren
pnwxjaaron wrote:
> Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
> with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
> myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
> wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
> Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
> found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
> it would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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69726 From: Chris Steele <phxsteele2000@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:41am
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
I have tools and a 33 gallon air compressor I can bring. I just dont
have a good place to work on one now. My house should be finished
JAN. 1st. I live in Mesa as well if you want to do it over
here......Steele
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> I have a pretty good set of tools. I have air tools also but no
air. I have
> a really big area to work with, lights also (for the night
wrenching). I
> live at Mesa Drive and Southern. If you want to get a few people
together, I
> also have a pool table and darts for when it was done. Let me know.
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Cell 480-213-1976
> Home 480-649-5588
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flyingmonkeydemon [mailto:hockeydawg@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
>
>
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to
put it on.
> I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have
is a
> decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will
supply
> beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am
willing to
> make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over
there. Let me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
>
>
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69727 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:42am
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
I think this is a great idea for the group and myself!!! Can never have too
much knowledge on something.
The question is...........welding being such an "individual" kind of
expertise.............who is a good person to give the class? Of all the
people I have met that say they can weld, the really GOOD one are very modest
about their skills and would rarely say they are an expert in order to give a
class.
Therefore, I would like to vote for the following individuals (as I have
experience with their work and abilities. Sorry if I offend someone on the
list who is also an excellent welder, but I don't know you. If I saw your
work, you too would be on the list.) And I CERTAINLY do not intend to speak
for these people. These are just ones that I thought would make a good entry
for this class. I would expect them to step up if they are interested.
In no particular order:
1) Hunter (Hunter Offroad)
2) Troy and cohorts at Toys By Troy
3) 4Wheeler's Supply (Anyone in their fab shop!!).
Again, I am sure there are others on the list that are VERY good welders. I
just don't know who you are, so I can't list you. Feel free to throw your hat
in the ring if you want. These are just ones off the top of my head that I
KNOW are very good welders with LOTS of experience.
ps: Does Bill Mish do welding? I once heard he was good too! <big grin> More
Tequila........more tequila......beads r wookin good now......
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
69728 From: Sean Speer <seanspeer@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:03pm
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
Mike! i live in ashton ranch in surprise. let me know when you do this... i
am looking in to getting a lift for my TJ and want to know how its done...
plus... i like to drink beer!
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to put it
on. I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have is a
decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will supply
beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am willing to
make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over there. Let
me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
69729 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:03pm
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
What kind and year of Jeep are you talking about? YJ with vac disconnect on front axle? If so, start checking for a melted fitting, busted line or line that has popped off a connector.
All 3 have happened to me. Good thing is that the most expensive fix has been about $40 for a new vac harness. Melted connectors and new vac line (rubber) is about $5 to fix. Just start at one end of the system and start checking lines/connections.
If you're not hearing lotsa bad noises along with this 3wd problem...take that as a good sign, too!
Good luck!
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:24:16 -0000
From: "pnwxjaaron" <ridetimeless158@a...>
Subject: Front locker problems
Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
it would be greatly appreciated!
69730 From: azredrocker <gotrox@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:18pm
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
Jay, Bill Mish is an artist, just look at his rig. His selfless
intent to share his vision of what a crawler should look like
shouldn't be taken lightly.
Here, Here Bill, my hat off to ya!!
Just stay away from my bootyfab stuff, I don't need any help!
:~)
neal
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> I think this is a great idea for the group and myself!!! Can never
have too
> much knowledge on something.
>
> The question is...........welding being such an "individual" kind of
> expertise.............who is a good person to give the class? Of
all the
> people I have met that say they can weld, the really GOOD one are
very modest
> about their skills and would rarely say they are an expert in order
to give a
> class.
>
> Therefore, I would like to vote for the following individuals (as I
have
> experience with their work and abilities. Sorry if I offend
someone on the
> list who is also an excellent welder, but I don't know you. If I
saw your
> work, you too would be on the list.) And I CERTAINLY do not intend
to speak
> for these people. These are just ones that I thought would make a
good entry
> for this class. I would expect them to step up if they are
interested.
>
> In no particular order:
> 1) Hunter (Hunter Offroad)
> 2) Troy and cohorts at Toys By Troy
> 3) 4Wheeler's Supply (Anyone in their fab shop!!).
>
> Again, I am sure there are others on the list that are VERY good
welders. I
> just don't know who you are, so I can't list you. Feel free to
throw your hat
> in the ring if you want. These are just ones off the top of my
head that I
> KNOW are very good welders with LOTS of experience.
>
> ps: Does Bill Mish do welding? I once heard he was good too! <big
grin> More
> Tequila........more tequila......beads r wookin good now......
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
> http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
> http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
69731 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:37pm
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
If you have locking hubs, you might check those too.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Darren Richards wrote:
> Last time I found myself in 3 wheel drive it was because my axle snapped
> right where it enters the carrier. It was one of the heavy-duty Warn
> D30 axles, too... I have a lock-right in the front. If you still have
> 3 wheel drive, and there are no noises coming from the front diff, I'd
> suspect that the locker isn't the problem...
>
> -darren
>
> pnwxjaaron wrote:
>
> > Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
> > with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
> > myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
> > wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
> > Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
> > found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
> > it would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
69732 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:10pm
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
I'll be in Phoenix from about the 13th to the 22nd and would love
to help out. Well experienced with o/a , stick & tig.
-d
Kent Warner wrote:
>
> What do folks think about doing a Newbee Welding Workshop? I don't
> know how many beginning welders we have in the group, but I know I am
> looking at getting a Miller 135 so I can do my CJ (freakin cheap
> channel frames...) rebuild, and would like to be able to make a
> decent weld quickly.
>
> How many people would like to learn and how many experienced welders
> would like to pass on some sage advice?
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
69733 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 8:44am
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
Heck, I have no air tools but I do have a compressor and tools and a place to work on the jeep. Otherwise I'll take my compressor and my tools wherever this is going to take place, along with my appetite If you need help. I live in south PHOENIX.
Anthony C
69734 From: my friends call me chopper <jasonandkatiemerrillinaz@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:53pm
Subject: Install of a TJ lift
Hey Gang, well last weekend I finally put on my 3" lift... YAHOO
got the OK from the wife she was heading out of town, so I went to my
buddy Libo's house and we started wrenching. We started on the front
at about 9:45- 10:00 and we were on our way. we were just about done
and cRacK Bam the rain came down... so there i sit looking out my
buddys back window when its raining Jeep on blocks,no wheels, the
only thing left on the front was to tighted the sway bar down.. so
there i sit.... and sit... THEN the rain lets up I say fawk-it and
go out to finish. by the time i got the wheels on and everything
moved to the back of the Jeep the ground was dry and ready to go..
we started on the back with no issues, the track bar re-locater gave
us a problem but my buddy is pretty crafty and he came up with the
solution to fix the issue. all and all it was fairly easy its nice
to have a buddy around to help out.. the Jeep is riding nice and I
havent had any problems so now its time for the next mod :-)
Happy Wheeling
Jason
99 TJ 3" higher..
00 XJ
69735 From: Spgirard30@c... <spgirard30@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:53pm
Subject: Front dana 60 needed
I am looking for a passenger side diff 60. I know someone said they had one a few months ago but lost the email address.
69736 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: Install of a TJ lift
Congrats man! I just got mine on about three weeks ago. It makes all the
difference in the world.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "my friends call me chopper" <jasonandkatiemerrillinaz@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:53 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Install of a TJ lift
>
>
> > Hey Gang, well last weekend I finally put on my 3" lift... YAHOO
> > got the OK from the wife she was heading out of town, so I went to my
> > buddy Libo's house and we started wrenching. We started on the front
> > at about 9:45- 10:00 and we were on our way. we were just about done
> > and cRacK Bam the rain came down... so there i sit looking out my
> > buddys back window when its raining Jeep on blocks,no wheels, the
> > only thing left on the front was to tighted the sway bar down.. so
> > there i sit.... and sit... THEN the rain lets up I say fawk-it and
> > go out to finish. by the time i got the wheels on and everything
> > moved to the back of the Jeep the ground was dry and ready to go..
> > we started on the back with no issues, the track bar re-locater gave
> > us a problem but my buddy is pretty crafty and he came up with the
> > solution to fix the issue. all and all it was fairly easy its nice
> > to have a buddy around to help out.. the Jeep is riding nice and I
> > havent had any problems so now its time for the next mod :-)
> >
> > Happy Wheeling
> > Jason
> > 99 TJ 3" higher..
> > 00 XJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
69737 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:04pm
Subject: BFG Krawler
Anyone know when these are supposed to come out? The have been
showing up in the magazines a lot lately, so I hope it's soon....
Rick, do you guys know anything about them at Discount? -Rob
69738 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: Off-road accident & body work cost
This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my Jeep with
it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the side of another
Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the fender flare and dented
the passenger side front fender of the other TJ right near the top of
the fender. He got a quote today and said that it is $750 for parts
and $800 for labor to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but
would her insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He
backed into something with it the next day and damaged the back
fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the whole
thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it all and he'd
only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she ends up
having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad accident, can he even
make her pay for it if she doesn't want to? She does want to take
care of it, but $1,550 for a small dent and a fender flair...come on!
-Scott E.
69739 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
No..........I totally agree with you!!! Bill's work IS excellent! I
happened to think of him right at the end. And knowing his good sense of
humor I thought I would poke some fun. But I completely agree with you. His
work and rig are EXCELLENT!!! I did not intend to make that seem as a shot
towards Bill. And I doubt Bill took it that way.
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
azredrocker wrote:
> Jay, Bill Mish is an artist, just look at his rig. His selfless
> intent to share his vision of what a crawler should look like
> shouldn't be taken lightly.
>
> Here, Here Bill, my hat off to ya!!
> Just stay away from my bootyfab stuff, I don't need any help!
> :~)
>
> neal
>
69740 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 3:41pm
Subject: [FS] 2000 Camp trailer
Price: $3000.00
Contact: hackle@qwest.net
2000 Viking Camp trailer Model 1906 Saga has been kept in the garage when not in use. This trailer is in very good shape. It also has been sprung over and larger 13” tires installed by the Dealer so it is covered under warrantee. It will sleep 6 as long as two are kids. I am getting rid of it as I plan on getting a car hauler for the YJ and I cannot tow bothJ. It has a canopy and icebox with plenty of storage and a water tank. Indoor-outdoor stove, propane tank, battery for lights. I towed it behind my YJ and had no trouble at all. Flexy and Lisa used it for the Jamboree and pulled it behind the XJ. It tows very easy. Jim Florence
Jim Florence
69741 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:23pm
Subject: [FS] axel dana 35
Price: 950.00
Contact: dan parker 602 538 6793
dana 35 with super 35 kit 456 gears set up for spring over or spring under
Dan Parker
69742 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:25pm
Subject: RE: Off-road accident & body work cost
Hi Scott,
I have a few thoughts since you ask <grin>... whether his insurance would
cover it all with just a small deductible or not, your fiancé is responsible
and should pay the charges to fix the damage she caused; regardless of the
estimate. The person who had their Jeep damaged by her driving has the
right to take their Jeep anywhere they like to have it repaired... from Joe
Schmoe's garage and barbershop to Scottsdale Porsche Paint and Body.
She does however, have a right to see the estimate to ensure that it is
legitimate AND to call the body shop to ensure that the numbers were not
fabricated.
Also... asking for reasonably priced shops makes me think that the owner of
the Jeep that was damaged is giving her a choice... not something I would do
were I the one with the damage. I would take my rig to a place I felt
comfortable with, regardless of the price... I certainly wouldn't let the
person who damaged my vehicle pick the repair shop.
Sometimes lessons are difficult to learn and $1550 might actually be a
pretty cheap lesson... think about her accidentally starting her rig with it
in gear on a trail run... near a cliff... get my drift?
My advise to your fiancé is to bite the bullet and do the right thing,
which, in this case, is to let the guy with the damaged Jeep get it fixed
where he wants to and have her make sure the estimate is real. Note... When
I say real, I mean only for the damage she caused... and this has nothing to
do with the cost; she should pay whatever it costs.
Tell her by doing the right thing and making it easy for the driver with the
bent rig... she'll be more enlightened in the next life (and less likely to
come back as a cricket). <grin> The good Karma is worth the cost of the
repairs. <smile>
Take care,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Edwards [mailto:azcj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:39 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my Jeep with
it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the side of another
Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the fender flare and dented
the passenger side front fender of the other TJ right near the top of
the fender. He got a quote today and said that it is $750 for parts
and $800 for labor to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but
would her insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He
backed into something with it the next day and damaged the back
fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the whole
thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it all and he'd
only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she ends up
having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad accident, can he even
make her pay for it if she doesn't want to? She does want to take
care of it, but $1,550 for a small dent and a fender flair...come on!
-Scott E.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
69743 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:26am
Subject: Re: Off-road accident & body work cost
I doubt they'll cover it unless he makes up some story to the insurance. As far as the price goes, that is ridiculous. for that price he could get bodywork and a full paint job. I think somebody is pulling your leg and your wallet. If you would like, I could make some calls to see how much a fender and fender flare will cost (at my cost and discount) and I could get back to you. if you could get me the paint code from the guys jeep, I could get it made up for you a lot cheaper then the shop or dealership could do it. I personally think the guy just wants some extra money in his pocket.
69744 From: jeeperaz <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:40pm
Subject: Re: Front dana 60 needed
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Spgirard30@c..." <spgirard30@c...> wrote:
> I am looking for a passenger side diff 60. I know someone said
they had one a few months ago but lost the email address.
I have two and will be getting rid of one in the near future. write
me if you are still interested and can afford to wait a month or so.
Regards,
Larry Maggio
69745 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:56pm
Subject: RE: Off-road accident & body work cost
Joe,
If I didn't know better, with all your talk of karma and re-incarnation,
I think we are going to start hearing Hare Krishna chants from you next.
;)
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM
> To: 'Scott Edwards'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have a few thoughts since you ask <grin>... whether his
> insurance would cover it all with just a small deductible or
> not, your fiancé is responsible and should pay the charges to
> fix the damage she caused; regardless of the estimate. The
> person who had their Jeep damaged by her driving has the
> right to take their Jeep anywhere they like to have it
> repaired... from Joe Schmoe's garage and barbershop to
> Scottsdale Porsche Paint and Body. She does however, have a
> right to see the estimate to ensure that it is legitimate AND
> to call the body shop to ensure that the numbers were not fabricated.
>
> Also... asking for reasonably priced shops makes me think
> that the owner of the Jeep that was damaged is giving her a
> choice... not something I would do were I the one with the
> damage. I would take my rig to a place I felt comfortable
> with, regardless of the price... I certainly wouldn't let the
> person who damaged my vehicle pick the repair shop.
>
> Sometimes lessons are difficult to learn and $1550 might
> actually be a pretty cheap lesson... think about her
> accidentally starting her rig with it in gear on a trail
> run... near a cliff... get my drift?
>
> My advise to your fiancé is to bite the bullet and do the
> right thing, which, in this case, is to let the guy with the
> damaged Jeep get it fixed where he wants to and have her make
> sure the estimate is real. Note... When I say real, I mean
> only for the damage she caused... and this has nothing to do
> with the cost; she should pay whatever it costs.
>
> Tell her by doing the right thing and making it easy for the
> driver with the bent rig... she'll be more enlightened in the
> next life (and less likely to come back as a cricket).
> <grin> The good Karma is worth the cost of the repairs. <smile>
>
> Take care,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Edwards [mailto:azcj@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
>
> This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my
> Jeep with it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the
> side of another Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the
> fender flare and dented the passenger side front fender of
> the other TJ right near the top of the fender. He got a quote
> today and said that it is $750 for parts and $800 for labor
> to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but would her
> insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He backed
> into something with it the next day and damaged the back
> fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the
> whole thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it
> all and he'd only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
>
> Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she
> ends up having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad
> accident, can he even make her pay for it if she doesn't want
> to? She does want to take care of it, but $1,550 for a small
> dent and a fender flair...come on!
>
> -Scott E.
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo!
> Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
69746 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:04pm
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
I live out in Surprise, Ashton Ranch, and have tools and air tools and the
room to work on it. I've never done a complete lift on a TJ, just spacers
and shocks.......but, I bet it's basically the same as my ZJ which I've had
apart several times. I work at night also, but have weekends off. This
weekend is Nascar weekend, so I probably wont be around much. Do you have
Monday off? I might be able to help you out then. Let me know.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to put it
on. I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have is a
decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will supply
beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am willing to
make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over there. Let
me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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69747 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:11pm
Subject: 4 Wheeler's Supply
A big thanks to Barry!
Everytime I seem to be hard on my TJ on the rocks lately I seem to experience my steering wheel being off when I get back on the road after being aired up. In the spring I bent my front adjustable track bar and Chris Krieg helped me get everything dialed back in. We couldn't see where I had bent it, but after measuring we had determined the axle had shifted.
This past weekend I ran in the rock garden (optional) on Turkey Creek and it was probably the most challenging stuff I've done in my TJ. I ran it with open diffs, got through it just fine with some excellent spotting from Jason LaLiberty and Bob Peck. After airing up in Black Canyon I cranked along on the freeway and noticed that the wheel was off again (steering wheel).
My neighbor helped me measure my Toe, was OK. I measured to see if my front axle was centered, was all ok. Tie Rod, Track bar and Drag link all looked out. I checked all bolts, etc were tight.
I called Barry Monday morning and asked if I should purchase a new track bar thinking perhaps I may have bent it again. Barry said to stop by and we'll take a look at it. He not only took a look at it, but went to the trouble of going back into the warehouse to pull out a brand new track bar and we put it up against the existing one I have on my Jeep and all the bends look the same. He said that it's a CJ/YJ/TJ thing for the steering wheel to be off after being hard on the rocks.
Thought I'd pass this info on. Thanks again Barry! It's great to have an honest person to deal with and not have to worry about someone selling you parts you don't need.
Jake
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69748 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:20pm
Subject: [FS] Need rear CJ shackle hangers
Price: ???
Contact: Mike McNab
I need a set of rear shackle hangers for a CJ7. (602) 618-8777 or mike@mcnabs.com.
Mike McNab
69749 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:23pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheeler's Supply
Yup...he's a keeper....
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Wagner
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheeler's Supply
A big thanks to Barry!
Everytime I seem to be hard on my TJ on the rocks lately I seem to experience my steering wheel being off when I get back on the road after being aired up. In the spring I bent my front adjustable track bar and Chris Krieg helped me get everything dialed back in. We couldn't see where I had bent it, but after measuring we had determined the axle had shifted.
This past weekend I ran in the rock garden (optional) on Turkey Creek and it was probably the most challenging stuff I've done in my TJ. I ran it with open diffs, got through it just fine with some excellent spotting from Jason LaLiberty and Bob Peck. After airing up in Black Canyon I cranked along on the freeway and noticed that the wheel was off again (steering wheel).
My neighbor helped me measure my Toe, was OK. I measured to see if my front axle was centered, was all ok. Tie Rod, Track bar and Drag link all looked out. I checked all bolts, etc were tight.
I called Barry Monday morning and asked if I should purchase a new track bar thinking perhaps I may have bent it again. Barry said to stop by and we'll take a look at it. He not only took a look at it, but went to the trouble of going back into the warehouse to pull out a brand new track bar and we put it up against the existing one I have on my Jeep and all the bends look the same. He said that it's a CJ/YJ/TJ thing for the steering wheel to be off after being hard on the rocks.
Thought I'd pass this info on. Thanks again Barry! It's great to have an honest person to deal with and not have to worry about someone selling you parts you don't need.
Jake
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69725 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:39am
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
Last time I found myself in 3 wheel drive it was because my axle snapped
right where it enters the carrier. It was one of the heavy-duty Warn
D30 axles, too... I have a lock-right in the front. If you still have
3 wheel drive, and there are no noises coming from the front diff, I'd
suspect that the locker isn't the problem...
-darren
pnwxjaaron wrote:
> Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
> with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
> myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
> wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
> Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
> found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
> it would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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69726 From: Chris Steele <phxsteele2000@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:41am
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
I have tools and a 33 gallon air compressor I can bring. I just dont
have a good place to work on one now. My house should be finished
JAN. 1st. I live in Mesa as well if you want to do it over
here......Steele
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> I have a pretty good set of tools. I have air tools also but no
air. I have
> a really big area to work with, lights also (for the night
wrenching). I
> live at Mesa Drive and Southern. If you want to get a few people
together, I
> also have a pool table and darts for when it was done. Let me know.
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Cell 480-213-1976
> Home 480-649-5588
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flyingmonkeydemon [mailto:hockeydawg@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:17 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
>
>
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to
put it on.
> I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have
is a
> decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will
supply
> beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am
willing to
> make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over
there. Let me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
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69727 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:42am
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
I think this is a great idea for the group and myself!!! Can never have too
much knowledge on something.
The question is...........welding being such an "individual" kind of
expertise.............who is a good person to give the class? Of all the
people I have met that say they can weld, the really GOOD one are very modest
about their skills and would rarely say they are an expert in order to give a
class.
Therefore, I would like to vote for the following individuals (as I have
experience with their work and abilities. Sorry if I offend someone on the
list who is also an excellent welder, but I don't know you. If I saw your
work, you too would be on the list.) And I CERTAINLY do not intend to speak
for these people. These are just ones that I thought would make a good entry
for this class. I would expect them to step up if they are interested.
In no particular order:
1) Hunter (Hunter Offroad)
2) Troy and cohorts at Toys By Troy
3) 4Wheeler's Supply (Anyone in their fab shop!!).
Again, I am sure there are others on the list that are VERY good welders. I
just don't know who you are, so I can't list you. Feel free to throw your hat
in the ring if you want. These are just ones off the top of my head that I
KNOW are very good welders with LOTS of experience.
ps: Does Bill Mish do welding? I once heard he was good too! <big grin> More
Tequila........more tequila......beads r wookin good now......
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
69728 From: Sean Speer <seanspeer@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:03pm
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
Mike! i live in ashton ranch in surprise. let me know when you do this... i
am looking in to getting a lift for my TJ and want to know how its done...
plus... i like to drink beer!
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to put it
on. I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have is a
decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will supply
beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am willing to
make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over there. Let
me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
69729 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:03pm
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
What kind and year of Jeep are you talking about? YJ with vac disconnect on front axle? If so, start checking for a melted fitting, busted line or line that has popped off a connector.
All 3 have happened to me. Good thing is that the most expensive fix has been about $40 for a new vac harness. Melted connectors and new vac line (rubber) is about $5 to fix. Just start at one end of the system and start checking lines/connections.
If you're not hearing lotsa bad noises along with this 3wd problem...take that as a good sign, too!
Good luck!
Tom
Message: 21
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 19:24:16 -0000
From: "pnwxjaaron" <ridetimeless158@a...>
Subject: Front locker problems
Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
it would be greatly appreciated!
69730 From: azredrocker <gotrox@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:18pm
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
Jay, Bill Mish is an artist, just look at his rig. His selfless
intent to share his vision of what a crawler should look like
shouldn't be taken lightly.
Here, Here Bill, my hat off to ya!!
Just stay away from my bootyfab stuff, I don't need any help!
:~)
neal
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jay Eller <jay@t...> wrote:
> I think this is a great idea for the group and myself!!! Can never
have too
> much knowledge on something.
>
> The question is...........welding being such an "individual" kind of
> expertise.............who is a good person to give the class? Of
all the
> people I have met that say they can weld, the really GOOD one are
very modest
> about their skills and would rarely say they are an expert in order
to give a
> class.
>
> Therefore, I would like to vote for the following individuals (as I
have
> experience with their work and abilities. Sorry if I offend
someone on the
> list who is also an excellent welder, but I don't know you. If I
saw your
> work, you too would be on the list.) And I CERTAINLY do not intend
to speak
> for these people. These are just ones that I thought would make a
good entry
> for this class. I would expect them to step up if they are
interested.
>
> In no particular order:
> 1) Hunter (Hunter Offroad)
> 2) Troy and cohorts at Toys By Troy
> 3) 4Wheeler's Supply (Anyone in their fab shop!!).
>
> Again, I am sure there are others on the list that are VERY good
welders. I
> just don't know who you are, so I can't list you. Feel free to
throw your hat
> in the ring if you want. These are just ones off the top of my
head that I
> KNOW are very good welders with LOTS of experience.
>
> ps: Does Bill Mish do welding? I once heard he was good too! <big
grin> More
> Tequila........more tequila......beads r wookin good now......
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
> http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
> http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
69731 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 0:37pm
Subject: Re: Front locker problems
If you have locking hubs, you might check those too.
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Darren Richards wrote:
> Last time I found myself in 3 wheel drive it was because my axle snapped
> right where it enters the carrier. It was one of the heavy-duty Warn
> D30 axles, too... I have a lock-right in the front. If you still have
> 3 wheel drive, and there are no noises coming from the front diff, I'd
> suspect that the locker isn't the problem...
>
> -darren
>
> pnwxjaaron wrote:
>
> > Hey all, i'm looking for someone to help me figure out whats wrong
> > with my front locker. On the tail end of 42 this last Sunday I got
> > myself lined up for a little rockcrawling when all of a sudden i'm 3
> > wheel drive instead of 4! needless to say I was a little peeved...
> > Powertrax told me to have it looked at and let them know what was
> > found to be wrong... however I am broke :( if anyone can help me out
> > it would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
69732 From: Damon Gentile <dgentile@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:10pm
Subject: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
I'll be in Phoenix from about the 13th to the 22nd and would love
to help out. Well experienced with o/a , stick & tig.
-d
Kent Warner wrote:
>
> What do folks think about doing a Newbee Welding Workshop? I don't
> know how many beginning welders we have in the group, but I know I am
> looking at getting a Miller 135 so I can do my CJ (freakin cheap
> channel frames...) rebuild, and would like to be able to make a
> decent weld quickly.
>
> How many people would like to learn and how many experienced welders
> would like to pass on some sage advice?
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
69733 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 8:44am
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
Heck, I have no air tools but I do have a compressor and tools and a place to work on the jeep. Otherwise I'll take my compressor and my tools wherever this is going to take place, along with my appetite If you need help. I live in south PHOENIX.
Anthony C
69734 From: my friends call me chopper <jasonandkatiemerrillinaz@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:53pm
Subject: Install of a TJ lift
Hey Gang, well last weekend I finally put on my 3" lift... YAHOO
got the OK from the wife she was heading out of town, so I went to my
buddy Libo's house and we started wrenching. We started on the front
at about 9:45- 10:00 and we were on our way. we were just about done
and cRacK Bam the rain came down... so there i sit looking out my
buddys back window when its raining Jeep on blocks,no wheels, the
only thing left on the front was to tighted the sway bar down.. so
there i sit.... and sit... THEN the rain lets up I say fawk-it and
go out to finish. by the time i got the wheels on and everything
moved to the back of the Jeep the ground was dry and ready to go..
we started on the back with no issues, the track bar re-locater gave
us a problem but my buddy is pretty crafty and he came up with the
solution to fix the issue. all and all it was fairly easy its nice
to have a buddy around to help out.. the Jeep is riding nice and I
havent had any problems so now its time for the next mod :-)
Happy Wheeling
Jason
99 TJ 3" higher..
00 XJ
69735 From: Spgirard30@c... <spgirard30@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 1:53pm
Subject: Front dana 60 needed
I am looking for a passenger side diff 60. I know someone said they had one a few months ago but lost the email address.
69736 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:11pm
Subject: Re: Install of a TJ lift
Congrats man! I just got mine on about three weeks ago. It makes all the
difference in the world.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "my friends call me chopper" <jasonandkatiemerrillinaz@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:53 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Install of a TJ lift
>
>
> > Hey Gang, well last weekend I finally put on my 3" lift... YAHOO
> > got the OK from the wife she was heading out of town, so I went to my
> > buddy Libo's house and we started wrenching. We started on the front
> > at about 9:45- 10:00 and we were on our way. we were just about done
> > and cRacK Bam the rain came down... so there i sit looking out my
> > buddys back window when its raining Jeep on blocks,no wheels, the
> > only thing left on the front was to tighted the sway bar down.. so
> > there i sit.... and sit... THEN the rain lets up I say fawk-it and
> > go out to finish. by the time i got the wheels on and everything
> > moved to the back of the Jeep the ground was dry and ready to go..
> > we started on the back with no issues, the track bar re-locater gave
> > us a problem but my buddy is pretty crafty and he came up with the
> > solution to fix the issue. all and all it was fairly easy its nice
> > to have a buddy around to help out.. the Jeep is riding nice and I
> > havent had any problems so now its time for the next mod :-)
> >
> > Happy Wheeling
> > Jason
> > 99 TJ 3" higher..
> > 00 XJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
69737 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:04pm
Subject: BFG Krawler
Anyone know when these are supposed to come out? The have been
showing up in the magazines a lot lately, so I hope it's soon....
Rick, do you guys know anything about them at Discount? -Rob
69738 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: Off-road accident & body work cost
This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my Jeep with
it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the side of another
Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the fender flare and dented
the passenger side front fender of the other TJ right near the top of
the fender. He got a quote today and said that it is $750 for parts
and $800 for labor to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but
would her insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He
backed into something with it the next day and damaged the back
fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the whole
thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it all and he'd
only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she ends up
having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad accident, can he even
make her pay for it if she doesn't want to? She does want to take
care of it, but $1,550 for a small dent and a fender flair...come on!
-Scott E.
69739 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: Tech Workshop Suggestion: Newbee Welding 101
No..........I totally agree with you!!! Bill's work IS excellent! I
happened to think of him right at the end. And knowing his good sense of
humor I thought I would poke some fun. But I completely agree with you. His
work and rig are EXCELLENT!!! I did not intend to make that seem as a shot
towards Bill. And I doubt Bill took it that way.
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
azredrocker wrote:
> Jay, Bill Mish is an artist, just look at his rig. His selfless
> intent to share his vision of what a crawler should look like
> shouldn't be taken lightly.
>
> Here, Here Bill, my hat off to ya!!
> Just stay away from my bootyfab stuff, I don't need any help!
> :~)
>
> neal
>
69740 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 3:41pm
Subject: [FS] 2000 Camp trailer
Price: $3000.00
Contact: hackle@qwest.net
2000 Viking Camp trailer Model 1906 Saga has been kept in the garage when not in use. This trailer is in very good shape. It also has been sprung over and larger 13” tires installed by the Dealer so it is covered under warrantee. It will sleep 6 as long as two are kids. I am getting rid of it as I plan on getting a car hauler for the YJ and I cannot tow bothJ. It has a canopy and icebox with plenty of storage and a water tank. Indoor-outdoor stove, propane tank, battery for lights. I towed it behind my YJ and had no trouble at all. Flexy and Lisa used it for the Jamboree and pulled it behind the XJ. It tows very easy. Jim Florence
Jim Florence
69741 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:23pm
Subject: [FS] axel dana 35
Price: 950.00
Contact: dan parker 602 538 6793
dana 35 with super 35 kit 456 gears set up for spring over or spring under
Dan Parker
69742 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:25pm
Subject: RE: Off-road accident & body work cost
Hi Scott,
I have a few thoughts since you ask <grin>... whether his insurance would
cover it all with just a small deductible or not, your fiancé is responsible
and should pay the charges to fix the damage she caused; regardless of the
estimate. The person who had their Jeep damaged by her driving has the
right to take their Jeep anywhere they like to have it repaired... from Joe
Schmoe's garage and barbershop to Scottsdale Porsche Paint and Body.
She does however, have a right to see the estimate to ensure that it is
legitimate AND to call the body shop to ensure that the numbers were not
fabricated.
Also... asking for reasonably priced shops makes me think that the owner of
the Jeep that was damaged is giving her a choice... not something I would do
were I the one with the damage. I would take my rig to a place I felt
comfortable with, regardless of the price... I certainly wouldn't let the
person who damaged my vehicle pick the repair shop.
Sometimes lessons are difficult to learn and $1550 might actually be a
pretty cheap lesson... think about her accidentally starting her rig with it
in gear on a trail run... near a cliff... get my drift?
My advise to your fiancé is to bite the bullet and do the right thing,
which, in this case, is to let the guy with the damaged Jeep get it fixed
where he wants to and have her make sure the estimate is real. Note... When
I say real, I mean only for the damage she caused... and this has nothing to
do with the cost; she should pay whatever it costs.
Tell her by doing the right thing and making it easy for the driver with the
bent rig... she'll be more enlightened in the next life (and less likely to
come back as a cricket). <grin> The good Karma is worth the cost of the
repairs. <smile>
Take care,
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Edwards [mailto:azcj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:39 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my Jeep with
it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the side of another
Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the fender flare and dented
the passenger side front fender of the other TJ right near the top of
the fender. He got a quote today and said that it is $750 for parts
and $800 for labor to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but
would her insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He
backed into something with it the next day and damaged the back
fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the whole
thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it all and he'd
only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she ends up
having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad accident, can he even
make her pay for it if she doesn't want to? She does want to take
care of it, but $1,550 for a small dent and a fender flair...come on!
-Scott E.
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69743 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 11:26am
Subject: Re: Off-road accident & body work cost
I doubt they'll cover it unless he makes up some story to the insurance. As far as the price goes, that is ridiculous. for that price he could get bodywork and a full paint job. I think somebody is pulling your leg and your wallet. If you would like, I could make some calls to see how much a fender and fender flare will cost (at my cost and discount) and I could get back to you. if you could get me the paint code from the guys jeep, I could get it made up for you a lot cheaper then the shop or dealership could do it. I personally think the guy just wants some extra money in his pocket.
69744 From: jeeperaz <jeeperaz@b...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:40pm
Subject: Re: Front dana 60 needed
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Spgirard30@c..." <spgirard30@c...> wrote:
> I am looking for a passenger side diff 60. I know someone said
they had one a few months ago but lost the email address.
I have two and will be getting rid of one in the near future. write
me if you are still interested and can afford to wait a month or so.
Regards,
Larry Maggio
69745 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 4:56pm
Subject: RE: Off-road accident & body work cost
Joe,
If I didn't know better, with all your talk of karma and re-incarnation,
I think we are going to start hearing Hare Krishna chants from you next.
;)
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 5:26 PM
> To: 'Scott Edwards'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I have a few thoughts since you ask <grin>... whether his
> insurance would cover it all with just a small deductible or
> not, your fiancé is responsible and should pay the charges to
> fix the damage she caused; regardless of the estimate. The
> person who had their Jeep damaged by her driving has the
> right to take their Jeep anywhere they like to have it
> repaired... from Joe Schmoe's garage and barbershop to
> Scottsdale Porsche Paint and Body. She does however, have a
> right to see the estimate to ensure that it is legitimate AND
> to call the body shop to ensure that the numbers were not fabricated.
>
> Also... asking for reasonably priced shops makes me think
> that the owner of the Jeep that was damaged is giving her a
> choice... not something I would do were I the one with the
> damage. I would take my rig to a place I felt comfortable
> with, regardless of the price... I certainly wouldn't let the
> person who damaged my vehicle pick the repair shop.
>
> Sometimes lessons are difficult to learn and $1550 might
> actually be a pretty cheap lesson... think about her
> accidentally starting her rig with it in gear on a trail
> run... near a cliff... get my drift?
>
> My advise to your fiancé is to bite the bullet and do the
> right thing, which, in this case, is to let the guy with the
> damaged Jeep get it fixed where he wants to and have her make
> sure the estimate is real. Note... When I say real, I mean
> only for the damage she caused... and this has nothing to do
> with the cost; she should pay whatever it costs.
>
> Tell her by doing the right thing and making it easy for the
> driver with the bent rig... she'll be more enlightened in the
> next life (and less likely to come back as a cricket).
> <grin> The good Karma is worth the cost of the repairs. <smile>
>
> Take care,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Edwards [mailto:azcj@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 3:39 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Off-road accident & body work cost
>
> This weekend in the dunes, my fiance turned the key to my
> Jeep with it in gear and it went forward a few feet into the
> side of another Jeep. My tow hook scraped the paint off the
> fender flare and dented the passenger side front fender of
> the other TJ right near the top of the fender. He got a quote
> today and said that it is $750 for parts and $800 for labor
> to repair it!!! I just wanted to check on this but would her
> insurance cover an accident that happened offroad? He backed
> into something with it the next day and damaged the back
> fender. I'm not sure if he is trying to make her pay for the
> whole thing. I would think that his insurance would cover it
> all and he'd only have to pay one deductable. Any thoughts???
>
> Also, what are some reasonably priced shops to suggest if she
> ends up having to pay this out of pocket? In an offroad
> accident, can he even make her pay for it if she doesn't want
> to? She does want to take care of it, but $1,550 for a small
> dent and a fender flair...come on!
>
> -Scott E.
>
>
>
>
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69746 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:04pm
Subject: Re: New lift...wrenching party?
I live out in Surprise, Ashton Ranch, and have tools and air tools and the
room to work on it. I've never done a complete lift on a TJ, just spacers
and shocks.......but, I bet it's basically the same as my ZJ which I've had
apart several times. I work at night also, but have weekends off. This
weekend is Nascar weekend, so I probably wont be around much. Do you have
Monday off? I might be able to help you out then. Let me know.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyingmonkeydemon" <hockeydawg@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] New lift...wrenching party?
> I just bought a new Rubicon Express lift for my TJ, now I need to put it
on. I am
> mechanicaly inclined, I have a garage, however what I don't have is a
decent
> set of tools. If anyone wants to donate some time and tools, I will supply
beer,
> pizza and whatever else is needed. I live in El Mirage but am willing to
make
> the trek across the valley if someone wants to volunteer over there. Let
me
> know. I work nights so weekends work best for me. TIA.
>
> Mike Johnson
>
>
>
>
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69747 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:11pm
Subject: 4 Wheeler's Supply
A big thanks to Barry!
Everytime I seem to be hard on my TJ on the rocks lately I seem to experience my steering wheel being off when I get back on the road after being aired up. In the spring I bent my front adjustable track bar and Chris Krieg helped me get everything dialed back in. We couldn't see where I had bent it, but after measuring we had determined the axle had shifted.
This past weekend I ran in the rock garden (optional) on Turkey Creek and it was probably the most challenging stuff I've done in my TJ. I ran it with open diffs, got through it just fine with some excellent spotting from Jason LaLiberty and Bob Peck. After airing up in Black Canyon I cranked along on the freeway and noticed that the wheel was off again (steering wheel).
My neighbor helped me measure my Toe, was OK. I measured to see if my front axle was centered, was all ok. Tie Rod, Track bar and Drag link all looked out. I checked all bolts, etc were tight.
I called Barry Monday morning and asked if I should purchase a new track bar thinking perhaps I may have bent it again. Barry said to stop by and we'll take a look at it. He not only took a look at it, but went to the trouble of going back into the warehouse to pull out a brand new track bar and we put it up against the existing one I have on my Jeep and all the bends look the same. He said that it's a CJ/YJ/TJ thing for the steering wheel to be off after being hard on the rocks.
Thought I'd pass this info on. Thanks again Barry! It's great to have an honest person to deal with and not have to worry about someone selling you parts you don't need.
Jake
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69748 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:20pm
Subject: [FS] Need rear CJ shackle hangers
Price: ???
Contact: Mike McNab
I need a set of rear shackle hangers for a CJ7. (602) 618-8777 or mike@mcnabs.com.
Mike McNab
69749 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 5, 2002 5:23pm
Subject: Re: 4 Wheeler's Supply
Yup...he's a keeper....
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Wagner
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] 4 Wheeler's Supply
A big thanks to Barry!
Everytime I seem to be hard on my TJ on the rocks lately I seem to experience my steering wheel being off when I get back on the road after being aired up. In the spring I bent my front adjustable track bar and Chris Krieg helped me get everything dialed back in. We couldn't see where I had bent it, but after measuring we had determined the axle had shifted.
This past weekend I ran in the rock garden (optional) on Turkey Creek and it was probably the most challenging stuff I've done in my TJ. I ran it with open diffs, got through it just fine with some excellent spotting from Jason LaLiberty and Bob Peck. After airing up in Black Canyon I cranked along on the freeway and noticed that the wheel was off again (steering wheel).
My neighbor helped me measure my Toe, was OK. I measured to see if my front axle was centered, was all ok. Tie Rod, Track bar and Drag link all looked out. I checked all bolts, etc were tight.
I called Barry Monday morning and asked if I should purchase a new track bar thinking perhaps I may have bent it again. Barry said to stop by and we'll take a look at it. He not only took a look at it, but went to the trouble of going back into the warehouse to pull out a brand new track bar and we put it up against the existing one I have on my Jeep and all the bends look the same. He said that it's a CJ/YJ/TJ thing for the steering wheel to be off after being hard on the rocks.
Thought I'd pass this info on. Thanks again Barry! It's great to have an honest person to deal with and not have to worry about someone selling you parts you don't need.
Jake
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