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69550 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:40am
Subject: Re: +10 trails?
I am willing to bet 100 pesos that the Hummer was not designed
with even the littlest bit of rock crawling in mind. I am sure that
equipment and personnel were among the things intended to be carried
in them. That being said, I doubt that any of us would want to drive
over a land mine in any Jeep. The Hummer can't flex, but there is
actually a whole different world out there when talking about four
wheel drive. I think that the kind of thinking that went into the
original Hummer, and now the H2, albeit made by GM, are just what the
4x4 industry needs to keep the public interested. How many other
4x4s get as much attention as a Hummer, regardless of color or
model? Jeeps, you say? Ok, there's one. Any others that garner
such a high amount of ogling from almost everybody, wherever you go?
Hummers are not good in the rocks, but they are great in the cargo
department. I think that they get stuck on trails because good ol'
Captain Visa thinks that just because he can buy a Hummer it will
make him an instant offroad hero. We all know that Billy Bob can
outdrive him in a 2WD Chevette, but that's another story for another
time...
Lachlan "I like Hummers, don't you?" MacLean LOL!
In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> I don't know what experience anyone has driving Hummers but I drove
one in
> the Army for 9 years and let me tell you from first hand
experience. I have
> never been stuck or seen one stuck on any trail (or none trail). I
was a
> driving instructor for my unit and took these and other vehicles to
the
> extreme and never had any problems. If I was rich (and lived in
Scottsdale)
> I wouldn't mind owning one, along with my Jeep of course.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Field Service Representative
> MD Helicopters, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...; Rob Williams
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: +10 trails?
>
>
> I don't particularly like hummers but I have a video of 2 hummers
doing the
> Rubicon trail taking no bypasses, including the Little Sluice
Before the big
> rocks were blasted in there. The hummers were stock except for
rocker panel
> protection. They spent a good part of the trail with only 3 wheels
on the
> ground. I ran the Rubicon this summer and the trail can be a solid
5 or a
> 3.5 depending on which lines you take and what bypasses you use.
But what
> ever you think about it, you won't really know unless you have been
there.
> The Rubicon is a continuous test of machine, driving skill and
mental
> toughness. It just does not quit throwing obstacles at you. Many
trails out
> here are tougher but none are as long and strenuous. IMO
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
> AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:22 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: +10 trails?
>
>
> Are they also trying to claim that an H2 can run the Rubicon bone
> stock? I didn't think a REAL Hummer can run the Rubicon stock let
> alone an H2. Maybe they are just talking about driving TO the
> Rubicon and not actually WHEELING it! ;) -Rob
>
> Happy to stir up the Jeep vs Hummer pot this morning! LOL
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "mini_dv1" <mini_dv1@y...> wrote:
> > just noticed this article on the new wrangler 2003. who writes
> this
> > stuff anyways?
> >
> > "Hummers come off the line equipped to tackle Class 10 offroad
> > trails - the most difficult and treacherous
> > An example is the 22-mile Rubicon Trail in California's Eldorado
> > National Forest near Lake Tahoe"
> >
> > http://www.cars.com/news/stories/103002_storya_cc.jhtml?
> aff=national
>
>
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69551 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:44am
Subject: RE: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows (most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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69552 From: pzonn1125 <paul.zonneveld@g...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:46am
Subject: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
69553 From: Michael Wixom <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:17am
Subject: Re: help with rear axel dana 44
If it was from a Quadratrac equipped vehicle, then the center section is
offset and it probably will not be a good choice to use in your YJ.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "bigyjjeep" <bigyjjeep@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
> how hard would it be to convert a 77 wangoneer dana 44 to my 89yj? or
> what would be an easy choice to swap with?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
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69554 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:00am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Here you go. I don't remember where I saw the article but it seemed to do ok on some fun looking trails.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows (most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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69555 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 3:52am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Well I dont know but I've been thinkin, a KJ just might be the next Jeep in my stable. The one I saw at the state fair, nicely equipped was $4.000 less than the TJ next to it (no it wasnt a Rubicon one). Looks like the KJ has a lot of value and potential for someone that needs something a little more than a Wrangler and a little less than a ZJ/WJ. I do know one thing, I need to finish the 3 Jeep projects I am working now before I attempt to tackle another one......
Mike
69556 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:52am
Subject: RE: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Air compressor + blow gun. Open both doors and make sure you blow into
the side that is upwind if there is a breeze. I blast the entire
interior. Swat the seat materials as you direct some air towards them.
Smacking them clouds up the dust and the compressed air blows it away
from you. If you are sensitive to dust wear a dust mask or hold your
breath.
I recommend inspecting all of the control arm brackets and track bar
brackets. These are a common failure point on TJ's. Just crawl around
under there and look for anything unusual. Listen close for noises on
the trail and try to track them down and fix them.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: pzonn1125 [mailto:paul.zonneveld@g...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
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69557 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: help with rear axel dana 44
Ya but the 77 wagy is a good choice for a donor front D44 for a CJ!! hint
hint.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:17 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; bigyjjeep
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
If it was from a Quadratrac equipped vehicle, then the center section is
offset and it probably will not be a good choice to use in your YJ.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "bigyjjeep" <bigyjjeep@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
> how hard would it be to convert a 77 wangoneer dana 44 to my 89yj? or
> what would be an easy choice to swap with?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
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69558 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:55am
Subject: RE: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Compressed air! Your best friend for cleaning out the Jeep!
While checking your control arms, make sure you check the brackets where
they mount.....they do crack and that is NO fun to have happen when you
are on the road or the trail.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: pzonn1125 [mailto:paul.zonneveld@g...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
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69559 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:59am
Subject: Re: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
After the Jamboree 2002 in the Florence Junction area, my Jeep was so
dusty I even steam cleaned the engine (AzVJC members advised me to
cover the battery, alternator, computer & connections, air intake and
throttle position sensor). A little extreme, but it SPARKLES!
Inside the cabin, I used a vacuum cleaner with the brush attachment
(NOT the vacuum cleaners at a car wash), followed by Armor-all wipes
and good old fashioned rags. I did not remove the dash - I figure if
dust can just get hit from wind, a good reverse wind (vacuum cleaner)
can get it out. On 1999 Jeeps for one, the instrument panel is
modular; has just a plug-in connector - no wiring harness as such; so
dust should not affect it (IMO).
If all else fails, just lift the Jeep and shake it a few times. :)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "pzonn1125" <paul.zonneveld@g...> wrote:
> Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
> dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
> of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
> out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
> suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
> dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
> everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms
(I
> have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
>
> Paul
69560 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:09am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Dang ! Now I like that KJ (not sure about the colors) ! Here is a nice pic of a KJ that I got somewhere.
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69561 From: <f968190@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:10am
Subject: Jeep Liberty was RE: Random thoughts on Joe's new sticker
I saw an article on this liberty in one of the magazines. They replaced the
IFS with a D30 straight axle. Basically, its not a liberty anymore...more of
a XJ.
Frank
In a message dated 11/04/2002 9:52:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
fatbob309@email.uophx.edu writes:
<< Subj: Re: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new sticker
Date: 11/04/2002 9:52:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time
From: fatbob309@email.uophx.edu (Robert McNeeley)
To: cowboy7575@aol.com, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, skruize@cox.net (Scott
Kruize)
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MessageHere you go. I don't remember where I saw the article but it seemed
to do ok on some fun looking trails.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any
Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run
with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle
swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon
edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with
the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can
tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows
(most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable
front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many
great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get
the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of
Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with
Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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<DIV>Here you go. I don't remember where I saw the
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<DIV>Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
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Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys.
I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run
with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle
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69562 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:11am
Subject: Anyone out there like MJ's ?
Check this one out........
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69563 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:29am
Subject: What was that guy's name...
What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though I saw him post more stuff for sale.
S. Jayke Thorpe
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69564 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:34am
Subject: Re: Re: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
This has worked really well for me in the past. Grab your garden hose with
the tap open WIDE OPEN. Then proceed to spray EVERYTHING inside. One
caution, be sure to pull the drain plugs in the floor boards so the water
that collects in the floor boards doesn't get too high and flow over the
sides. This works to flush all of the dust down to the floor boards where it
simply flows out the drain holes. This works really well too for cleaning
engine bays and underside. Only one $3.00 tool need. A hose sprayer nozzle.
But if you have a pretty TJ..............you better try the compressed air
idea. One caution: You might find your cup holders full of water with the
above method and thereby making them unusable! :-)
<big grin> I just couldn't resist this one...................
--
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Jay Eller (http://www.toyboxoffroad.com)
http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut
http://community.webshots.com/user/jay_at_toybox)
69565 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:41am
Subject: Re: What was that guy's name...
MARK SPEER
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though
I saw him post more stuff for sale.
>
> S. Jayke Thorpe
>
>
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69566 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:46am
Subject: [MS] Green Wrangler at Glamis sand drags
I saw a green Wrangler at the sand drags at Gecko Road in Glamis on
Saturday. Tried to get your attention at the start to race but you
weren't looking. No sign of you at the finish so here's your wave. I
passed you on the right near the start of the drags in a white TJ
with a white soft top and 35s. I was surprised that I didn't see more
stickers out there with the number of people in the club. Then again,
everyone that I know that has a Jeep and goes to the dunes goes to
the I-8 side I usually stick to the Glamis side.
-Scott E.
'97 White TJ
69567 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:32am
Subject: RE: Re: What was that guy's name...
There is also another Spear in the club(can't remember his first name) but
he is no relation to Mark Spears. FYI
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Garcia [mailto:leonardg@a...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:41 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: What was that guy's name...
MARK SPEER
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though
I saw him post more stuff for sale.
>
> S. Jayke Thorpe
>
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69568 From: Jim <jishby@m...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:52am
Subject: Control arm noise
Has anyone have a tingeing sound coming from the control arms (stock)
while flexing up a rock or a deep rut? I have checked the arms and
bushings, and checked all the brackets. All looks good. Any ideas
would help. Thanks
Jim
69569 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: Re: What was that guy's name...
The other guy is Sean Speer, a fellow co-worker who is sitting 5 feet
away from me right now. He is NOT related to Mark Speer.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> There is also another Spear in the club(can't remember his first
name) but
> he is no relation to Mark Spears. FYI
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
> Field Service Representative
> MD Helicopters, Inc.
> jeff.trujillo@m...
> Voice:(480)346-6249
> Fax:(480)346-6813
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leonard Garcia [mailto:leonardg@a...]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:41 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: What was that guy's name...
>
>
> MARK SPEER
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69570 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: [FS] wanted:np231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: 480-354-2931
needs to be np231 with the short 23 spline input. Can be disassembled--need for parts
martin williams
69571 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: Degree shims??
I was wondering what the negitives are to using degree shims on a front axle. Here's the problem. I have a narrow d30 mounted to 2.5" Rancho springs on the front of my 2a. With this setup the pinion points up and the knuckles are setting at about 0* caster.
Thanks
Keith
69572 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:18am
Subject: Coke Oven Run/ Shake down
Well all I can say is... WOW! I never knew what a difference a lift would make. I have been running the Coke oven trail for about 4 years now and there has always been some hills I just couldn't get up. This time not only did I get up them I made it look easy. It was also kinda weird not to hear all my skids scraping. The only thing I hit was my rear bumper...
As for the run, It wasn't posted because it started as a family run but I invited some people at the last moment. I had 4 Jeeps, one Toy and a F350 crew cab show up to run out to the Ovens.
Anthony Celaya and Chris(first time out) in his YJ
Ruben Aviles in his TJ
Gary Oglesby in his XJ
Dennis McNeeley with DJ (his son) and Rob(my dad) in his F350
Philip Leblanc and Paul(his Brother) in his 89 Toy
Me with Daniel(first time out) and Brian in my TJ
We went in off of the US60 because the F350 wouldn't fit in Box Canyon. After we goofed around on the play hills we headed out to the ovens. The cabin is worse than ever. Some one had shot it all up and I won't be surprised when it is burned to the ground for fun....
After the Ovens we headed out to the river. There was just enough water to make it fun. Sorry about that Anthony... ;)
I am happy to say there was very little carnage (Gary's left hub is shot) and everyone had a great time. Thanks again to all who showed up for making this a great run.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
69573 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:11am
Subject: [FS] WANTED: NP231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: 480-354-2931
Needs to be NP231 with short 23 spline input
martin williams
69574 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:14am
Subject: RE: Degree shims??
Cut the front perches off the axel and spin the axel so you have about 4 deg caster. Then weld the perches back on.
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@netbeam.net]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:07 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Degree shims??
I was wondering what the negitives are to using degree shims on a front axle. Here's the problem. I have a narrow d30 mounted to 2.5" Rancho springs on the front of my 2a. With this setup the pinion points up and the knuckles are setting at about 0* caster.
Thanks
Keith
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69550 From: Lachlan <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:40am
Subject: Re: +10 trails?
I am willing to bet 100 pesos that the Hummer was not designed
with even the littlest bit of rock crawling in mind. I am sure that
equipment and personnel were among the things intended to be carried
in them. That being said, I doubt that any of us would want to drive
over a land mine in any Jeep. The Hummer can't flex, but there is
actually a whole different world out there when talking about four
wheel drive. I think that the kind of thinking that went into the
original Hummer, and now the H2, albeit made by GM, are just what the
4x4 industry needs to keep the public interested. How many other
4x4s get as much attention as a Hummer, regardless of color or
model? Jeeps, you say? Ok, there's one. Any others that garner
such a high amount of ogling from almost everybody, wherever you go?
Hummers are not good in the rocks, but they are great in the cargo
department. I think that they get stuck on trails because good ol'
Captain Visa thinks that just because he can buy a Hummer it will
make him an instant offroad hero. We all know that Billy Bob can
outdrive him in a 2WD Chevette, but that's another story for another
time...
Lachlan "I like Hummers, don't you?" MacLean LOL!
In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> I don't know what experience anyone has driving Hummers but I drove
one in
> the Army for 9 years and let me tell you from first hand
experience. I have
> never been stuck or seen one stuck on any trail (or none trail). I
was a
> driving instructor for my unit and took these and other vehicles to
the
> extreme and never had any problems. If I was rich (and lived in
Scottsdale)
> I wouldn't mind owning one, along with my Jeep of course.
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
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> MD Helicopters, Inc.
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> Fax:(480)346-6813
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 7:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...; Rob Williams
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: +10 trails?
>
>
> I don't particularly like hummers but I have a video of 2 hummers
doing the
> Rubicon trail taking no bypasses, including the Little Sluice
Before the big
> rocks were blasted in there. The hummers were stock except for
rocker panel
> protection. They spent a good part of the trail with only 3 wheels
on the
> ground. I ran the Rubicon this summer and the trail can be a solid
5 or a
> 3.5 depending on which lines you take and what bypasses you use.
But what
> ever you think about it, you won't really know unless you have been
there.
> The Rubicon is a continuous test of machine, driving skill and
mental
> toughness. It just does not quit throwing obstacles at you. Many
trails out
> here are tougher but none are as long and strenuous. IMO
>
> Mike Wixom
> 85 CJ-7
> AZVJC / AZ Dust Devils,
> ASA4WDC, Blue Ribbon Coalition,
> Tread Lightly, Friends of the Rubicon
> United Four Wheel Drive Clubs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 10:22 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: +10 trails?
>
>
> Are they also trying to claim that an H2 can run the Rubicon bone
> stock? I didn't think a REAL Hummer can run the Rubicon stock let
> alone an H2. Maybe they are just talking about driving TO the
> Rubicon and not actually WHEELING it! ;) -Rob
>
> Happy to stir up the Jeep vs Hummer pot this morning! LOL
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "mini_dv1" <mini_dv1@y...> wrote:
> > just noticed this article on the new wrangler 2003. who writes
> this
> > stuff anyways?
> >
> > "Hummers come off the line equipped to tackle Class 10 offroad
> > trails - the most difficult and treacherous
> > An example is the 22-mile Rubicon Trail in California's Eldorado
> > National Forest near Lake Tahoe"
> >
> > http://www.cars.com/news/stories/103002_storya_cc.jhtml?
> aff=national
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69551 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:44am
Subject: RE: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows (most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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69552 From: pzonn1125 <paul.zonneveld@g...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:46am
Subject: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
69553 From: Michael Wixom <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:17am
Subject: Re: help with rear axel dana 44
If it was from a Quadratrac equipped vehicle, then the center section is
offset and it probably will not be a good choice to use in your YJ.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "bigyjjeep" <bigyjjeep@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
> how hard would it be to convert a 77 wangoneer dana 44 to my 89yj? or
> what would be an easy choice to swap with?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
>
>
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69554 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:00am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Here you go. I don't remember where I saw the article but it seemed to do ok on some fun looking trails.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows (most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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69555 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 3:52am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Well I dont know but I've been thinkin, a KJ just might be the next Jeep in my stable. The one I saw at the state fair, nicely equipped was $4.000 less than the TJ next to it (no it wasnt a Rubicon one). Looks like the KJ has a lot of value and potential for someone that needs something a little more than a Wrangler and a little less than a ZJ/WJ. I do know one thing, I need to finish the 3 Jeep projects I am working now before I attempt to tackle another one......
Mike
69556 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:52am
Subject: RE: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Air compressor + blow gun. Open both doors and make sure you blow into
the side that is upwind if there is a breeze. I blast the entire
interior. Swat the seat materials as you direct some air towards them.
Smacking them clouds up the dust and the compressed air blows it away
from you. If you are sensitive to dust wear a dust mask or hold your
breath.
I recommend inspecting all of the control arm brackets and track bar
brackets. These are a common failure point on TJ's. Just crawl around
under there and look for anything unusual. Listen close for noises on
the trail and try to track them down and fix them.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: pzonn1125 [mailto:paul.zonneveld@g...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
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69557 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: help with rear axel dana 44
Ya but the 77 wagy is a good choice for a donor front D44 for a CJ!! hint
hint.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 10:17 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; bigyjjeep
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
If it was from a Quadratrac equipped vehicle, then the center section is
offset and it probably will not be a good choice to use in your YJ.
Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7
----- Original Message -----
From: "bigyjjeep" <bigyjjeep@m...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] help with rear axel dana 44
> how hard would it be to convert a 77 wangoneer dana 44 to my 89yj? or
> what would be an easy choice to swap with?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
>
>
>
>
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69558 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:55am
Subject: RE: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Compressed air! Your best friend for cleaning out the Jeep!
While checking your control arms, make sure you check the brackets where
they mount.....they do crack and that is NO fun to have happen when you
are on the road or the trail.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: pzonn1125 [mailto:paul.zonneveld@g...]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:47 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms (I
have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
Paul
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69559 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 8:59am
Subject: Re: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
After the Jamboree 2002 in the Florence Junction area, my Jeep was so
dusty I even steam cleaned the engine (AzVJC members advised me to
cover the battery, alternator, computer & connections, air intake and
throttle position sensor). A little extreme, but it SPARKLES!
Inside the cabin, I used a vacuum cleaner with the brush attachment
(NOT the vacuum cleaners at a car wash), followed by Armor-all wipes
and good old fashioned rags. I did not remove the dash - I figure if
dust can just get hit from wind, a good reverse wind (vacuum cleaner)
can get it out. On 1999 Jeeps for one, the instrument panel is
modular; has just a plug-in connector - no wiring harness as such; so
dust should not affect it (IMO).
If all else fails, just lift the Jeep and shake it a few times. :)
--- In az_vjc@y..., "pzonn1125" <paul.zonneveld@g...> wrote:
> Anyone got any secrets or suggestions for cleaning out all of the
> dust that accumulates in a jeep after an outing. Is it just a case
> of removing the dash and associated parts and cleaning everyting
> out? After a run I did on Sunday there is dust everywhere. I
> suppose everyone is going to tell me not to be lazy and remove the
> dash to clean and wipe everything down. Also what inspections does
> everyone do after a trail ride? I usually inspect my control arms
(I
> have a TJ), axles, driveshafts etc. What does everyone else do?
>
> Paul
69560 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:09am
Subject: Re: re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Dang ! Now I like that KJ (not sure about the colors) ! Here is a nice pic of a KJ that I got somewhere.
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69561 From: <f968190@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:10am
Subject: Jeep Liberty was RE: Random thoughts on Joe's new sticker
I saw an article on this liberty in one of the magazines. They replaced the
IFS with a D30 straight axle. Basically, its not a liberty anymore...more of
a XJ.
Frank
In a message dated 11/04/2002 9:52:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
fatbob309@email.uophx.edu writes:
<< Subj: Re: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new sticker
Date: 11/04/2002 9:52:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time
From: fatbob309@email.uophx.edu (Robert McNeeley)
To: cowboy7575@aol.com, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, skruize@cox.net (Scott
Kruize)
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MessageHere you go. I don't remember where I saw the article but it seemed
to do ok on some fun looking trails.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Mike,
Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any
Libertys. I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run
with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle
swaps to anything you can imagine.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: skruize@cox.net
Subject: [az_vjc] re: Random thoughts on Joe's new stickers (KJ slam)
Way to go Scott! I laughed my *** off on that one, the Pubicon
edition.....LOL Now having said that, I do not have any experience with
the KJ, nor have I ever driven one or seen on in action off-road but I can
tell you that I have sat in the drivers seat of more than one at car shows
(most recently at the Az state fair) and they have the most uncomfortable
front seats, man they are just HARD! On the other hand I have read many
great reviews of its off-road capabilities as a stock "SUV" (just dont get
the new ones as they were lowered an inch) and I have talked to Rusty of
Rustys Off Road and seen his and it seems as if it might be as capable (with
Rustys mods) as the new H2 Hummer ( I just had to get that on in there ).
Mike
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<DIV>Here you go. I don't remember where I saw the
article but it seemed to do ok on some fun looking trails. </DIV>
<DIV>Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
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Yep its all good fun. I too have never been on the trail with any Libertys.
I guess I have yet to meet one thats been modded out enough to run
with us. I'm sure we will eventually see everything from front solid axle
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69562 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 4:11am
Subject: Anyone out there like MJ's ?
Check this one out........
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69563 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:29am
Subject: What was that guy's name...
What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though I saw him post more stuff for sale.
S. Jayke Thorpe
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69564 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:34am
Subject: Re: Re: Cleaning up after a trail ride !?!?!#@$!#
This has worked really well for me in the past. Grab your garden hose with
the tap open WIDE OPEN. Then proceed to spray EVERYTHING inside. One
caution, be sure to pull the drain plugs in the floor boards so the water
that collects in the floor boards doesn't get too high and flow over the
sides. This works to flush all of the dust down to the floor boards where it
simply flows out the drain holes. This works really well too for cleaning
engine bays and underside. Only one $3.00 tool need. A hose sprayer nozzle.
But if you have a pretty TJ..............you better try the compressed air
idea. One caution: You might find your cup holders full of water with the
above method and thereby making them unusable! :-)
<big grin> I just couldn't resist this one...................
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69565 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:41am
Subject: Re: What was that guy's name...
MARK SPEER
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though
I saw him post more stuff for sale.
>
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69566 From: Scott Edwards <azcj@y...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:46am
Subject: [MS] Green Wrangler at Glamis sand drags
I saw a green Wrangler at the sand drags at Gecko Road in Glamis on
Saturday. Tried to get your attention at the start to race but you
weren't looking. No sign of you at the finish so here's your wave. I
passed you on the right near the start of the drags in a white TJ
with a white soft top and 35s. I was surprised that I didn't see more
stickers out there with the number of people in the club. Then again,
everyone that I know that has a Jeep and goes to the dunes goes to
the I-8 side I usually stick to the Glamis side.
-Scott E.
'97 White TJ
69567 From: Trujillo, Jeff <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:32am
Subject: RE: Re: What was that guy's name...
There is also another Spear in the club(can't remember his first name) but
he is no relation to Mark Spears. FYI
Jeffrey A. Trujillo
Field Service Representative
MD Helicopters, Inc.
jeff.trujillo@m...
Voice:(480)346-6249
Fax:(480)346-6813
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MARK SPEER
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...> wrote:
> What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I though
I saw him post more stuff for sale.
>
> S. Jayke Thorpe
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69568 From: Jim <jishby@m...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 9:52am
Subject: Control arm noise
Has anyone have a tingeing sound coming from the control arms (stock)
while flexing up a rock or a deep rut? I have checked the arms and
bushings, and checked all the brackets. All looks good. Any ideas
would help. Thanks
Jim
69569 From: Leonard Garcia <leonardg@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: Re: What was that guy's name...
The other guy is Sean Speer, a fellow co-worker who is sitting 5 feet
away from me right now. He is NOT related to Mark Speer.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Trujillo, Jeff" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> There is also another Spear in the club(can't remember his first
name) but
> he is no relation to Mark Spears. FYI
>
> Jeffrey A. Trujillo
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> Voice:(480)346-6249
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> MARK SPEER
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> > What was the member's name who was selling stolen stuff? I
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69570 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: [FS] wanted:np231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: 480-354-2931
needs to be np231 with the short 23 spline input. Can be disassembled--need for parts
martin williams
69571 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:07am
Subject: Degree shims??
I was wondering what the negitives are to using degree shims on a front axle. Here's the problem. I have a narrow d30 mounted to 2.5" Rancho springs on the front of my 2a. With this setup the pinion points up and the knuckles are setting at about 0* caster.
Thanks
Keith
69572 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:18am
Subject: Coke Oven Run/ Shake down
Well all I can say is... WOW! I never knew what a difference a lift would make. I have been running the Coke oven trail for about 4 years now and there has always been some hills I just couldn't get up. This time not only did I get up them I made it look easy. It was also kinda weird not to hear all my skids scraping. The only thing I hit was my rear bumper...
As for the run, It wasn't posted because it started as a family run but I invited some people at the last moment. I had 4 Jeeps, one Toy and a F350 crew cab show up to run out to the Ovens.
Anthony Celaya and Chris(first time out) in his YJ
Ruben Aviles in his TJ
Gary Oglesby in his XJ
Dennis McNeeley with DJ (his son) and Rob(my dad) in his F350
Philip Leblanc and Paul(his Brother) in his 89 Toy
Me with Daniel(first time out) and Brian in my TJ
We went in off of the US60 because the F350 wouldn't fit in Box Canyon. After we goofed around on the play hills we headed out to the ovens. The cabin is worse than ever. Some one had shot it all up and I won't be surprised when it is burned to the ground for fun....
After the Ovens we headed out to the river. There was just enough water to make it fun. Sorry about that Anthony... ;)
I am happy to say there was very little carnage (Gary's left hub is shot) and everyone had a great time. Thanks again to all who showed up for making this a great run.
Robert
"Paranoia is the belief in a hidden order behind the visible."
- Anonymous.
69573 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:11am
Subject: [FS] WANTED: NP231 transfercase
Price:
Contact: 480-354-2931
Needs to be NP231 with short 23 spline input
martin williams
69574 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Nov 4, 2002 10:14am
Subject: RE: Degree shims??
Cut the front perches off the axel and spin the axel so you have about 4 deg caster. Then weld the perches back on.
-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Haw [mailto:khaw@netbeam.net]
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:07 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Degree shims??
I was wondering what the negitives are to using degree shims on a front axle. Here's the problem. I have a narrow d30 mounted to 2.5" Rancho springs on the front of my 2a. With this setup the pinion points up and the knuckles are setting at about 0* caster.
Thanks
Keith
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