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69450 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:31pm
Subject: Re: TJ won't idle. Need help!
I would say check your vacuum lines, and your O2 Sensors... What code are
you throwing? Hold down the mileage button, turn the jeep on and off 3
times while holding the button, releasing it on the 3rd time you turn the
ignition on, and leave it on... Write down the codes it spits out on your
odometer.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 9:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ won't idle. Need help!
> I was doing about 65mph yesterday when my check engine light came on.
> When I came to a stop, the Jeep wouldn't idle. It runs very rough
> until it reaches about 1500 rpm, then runs fine anywhere above that.
> I thought I smelled fuel, but I didn't see any black smoke. I have
> 60,000 mi. on my Jeep, I replaced spark plugs, wires, cap & rotor at
> about 45,000mi. Could it be the o2 sensor? Or maybe the TPS or MAP
> sensor? The Jeep is a 99 TJ with 4.0L auto. Any comments or
> suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
>
>
>
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69451 From: <f968190@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:21am
Subject: Re: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Do me a favor and thank your driver that would have been on the trail around 1:30pm on Thursday. Tell him the guy in the gold XJ owes him a beer (or pop)!
Frank
P.S. I noticed that the pink jeep tours flyer says that they "exclusively" run the broken arrow trail. How can they get away with saying that? You guys are out there too and I think I saw another company as well.
In a message dated 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cowgirl@sedona.net writes:
Subj: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Date: 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: cowgirl@sedona.net
To: azvjc@azvjc.org
Sent from the Internet
Howdy! Glad to hear that you think the "yellow Jeep drivers are
great"! I run the "yellow Jeep" company (A Day in the West). We
have a lot of fun on Broken Arrow, too. (And if you think the Pink
Jeep drivers are unfriendly to you...!)
Hope to see you up here again soon.
Happy trails!
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69452 From: kwdunk95 <dunk95@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 2:31pm
Subject: Rockcrawler Hood for sale
FOR SALE: Campbell Enterprises Rockcrawler Hood for YJ Wrangler -
never used, still primed. New $650, will sell for $475 obo (buyer
pays shipping). You can see pictures of the hood in the Photo Album
listed under hood-pic 1 and hood-pic 2. Contact Ken 520-466-5591.
69453 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:00pm
Subject: 15x10 EA 589
I still have my 5 EA 589s for sale. They are 15x10 and 5 on 4.5 bolt
pattern. I have rockcrawlers on there now, and the 589s are
collecting dust in the garage.... asking $350 or best reasonable
offer... I need the money because my soft top is falling apart and I
need to get a new one. -Rob
69454 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:46pm
Subject: [FS] SM420 Trans ,
Price: 300.00 for package
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
SM 420 Trans, 175.00, New Gasket,20.00, 23 spline main shaft,175.00 New bearing retainer,30.00 Will Take 300.00 for the package.
Steve Barrett
69455 From: mini_dv1 <mini_dv1@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:46pm
Subject: custom exhaust setup.
The other day I hi centered my jeep, and slightly crushed the
exhaust pipe. (it wasn't that bad until my buddy came and helped me.
he would give me a little push and then let go, causing me to bounce
on the rocks.. argh.)
And the day after I smashed the pipe my jeep started to back fire,
spit, put and just die. So lucky me I broke down in front of a .99
cent store and managed to get a hacksaw and I cut the pipes on both
sides.. The pipe was smashed at the Y connection so I had to cut
both. The jeep runs fine now, just loud.
Now I am thinking of doing a custom exhaust job under the jeep.
Seeing how vulnerable the previous set up was I came up with the idea
of running the pipes on the inside of the frame. (frame is not boxed
in , yet). I understand there my be an issue with the heat
dissipation but think of the protection I will get from having my
pipes level with the frame. What does every one else think about
this idea? I can re-wire the brake lights to run under the body, my
gas tank is under the drivers seat. …
Oh.. the jeep got its first off-road casualty .. a smashed rocker
panel. :D looks cute I think. And was surprised by my bondo job not
falling off. Just cracking.
and i discovered my right tire doesnt like to spin in 4 wheel drive.
might be the locking hub.
Brendan
69 CJ5
buick 225
some gum,
a lighter and a knife..
69456 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:48pm
Subject: [FS] SM420 Trans ,
Price: 300.00 for package
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
SM 420 Trans, 175.00, New GasketKit, 23 spline main shaft,175.00 New bearing retainer,30.00 Will Take 300.00 for the package.
Steve Barrett
69457 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:14pm
Subject: [FS] YJ Front Revolver Shackles, YJ rear leafs, other misc. jeep parts
Price: 5.00---60.00
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
Steve Barrett
69458 From: Jake <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:34pm
Subject: TJ Sliding Upper Windows
Hi All:
My upper doors are about 18 months old and the zippers are worn out,
was wondering what everyone though of the Best Top Sliding Window
upper doors? I know they are a little pricey, just wondering if it's
any quieter with them versus the soft zip down windows? I'm running
the bikini with the windjammer/tonneau cover combo. Eventually I
plan on going to a Hard Top, didn't know if anyone is running these
with a hard top?
Please e-mail me off the list @ jakewagner@y...
Thanks!
Jake, OOTJ
69459 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:44pm
Subject: RE: TJ won't idle. Need help!
Hi Bob,
I'm guessing that it's the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). They are
notorious for failing... especially if they get wet. You can check by
reading the code returned by the computer.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 9:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ won't idle. Need help!
I was doing about 65mph yesterday when my check engine light came on.
When I came to a stop, the Jeep wouldn't idle. It runs very rough
until it reaches about 1500 rpm, then runs fine anywhere above that.
I thought I smelled fuel, but I didn't see any black smoke. I have
60,000 mi. on my Jeep, I replaced spark plugs, wires, cap & rotor at
about 45,000mi. Could it be the o2 sensor? Or maybe the TPS or MAP
sensor? The Jeep is a 99 TJ with 4.0L auto. Any comments or
suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bob Kennedy
99 TJ
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69460 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:21pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted - YJ front shackles
Price: ?????
Contact: mike@mcnabs.com
I need a set of front YJ shackles, preferably 1/2" to 1" lift, but any will do. (602) 618-8777.
Mike McNab
69461 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:27pm
Subject: Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Gang,
I was supposed to meet Scott at his house to pickup a transmission jack this
afternoon, but so far I have been unable to contact him. He was taking his
rig out on a shakedown run for his new automatic transmission this
morning... anyone know how the run went?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
69462 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:39pm
Subject: RE: On my way to AZ?
Jonathan,
Congrats on your passing the Tech test! I am sure you will enjoy the
hobby. I find that ham radio and Jeeps compliment each other very
nicely! I am sure you will too.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Moore [mailto:jm9n@u...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:36 AM
To: Stu Olson; Damon Gentile; azvjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] On my way to AZ?
Well, I just want to jump in here not that I have any useful information
other than I just got back from taking my Technician Test and PASSED!
Just
had to tell somebody.
Jonathan (In VA but looking at a move to AZ)
At 11:09 AM 11/1/02 -0700, Stu Olson wrote:
>Damon,
>
>I am not able to provide you with the repeater info right now, but I
can
>later on.
>
>Drop me an e-mail this weekend and I can give you a few freqs. Maybe
we can
>hook up when you get down here.
>
>N7QJP.......Stu
>
>
>Stu Olson
>www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Damon Gentile [mailto:dgentile@s...]
>Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:03 AM
>To: azvjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] On my way to AZ?
>
>
>
>Hey folks. Kinda been lurking wayyy back here for a while :-)
>Currently living in Maine and will be heading out shortly (within
>a week?) to give my folks a pretty decent CJ7.
>
>The two most pressing quesitons that I can think of...
>
>Can anyone recommend a good, competent shop in the NW valey
>(Surprise area, but a GOOD guy anywhere is better than a bad
>shop that's local!). Somplace not afraid of a non-stock jeep.
>It's an 86 CJ7, 258w/hei&cam, lockup 727, locked D44s, OME reversal,
>OBA, OBW etc.
>
>Also - Are there many hams out there that can point me to some
>active UHF/VHF repeaters in the area?
>
>TIA,
>-d
>
>
>
>
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69463 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 2, 2002 5:48pm
Subject: Photo's from Upper Ajax Today...
Here's a link to photo's from my run on Upper Ajax today. It was mostly a "stack and unstack rocks for the Tacoma" run. Today's casualties were one dent in the tacoma bed, a bent jeep leaf spring, and two torn BFG tires.
http://community.webshots.com/album/54090974HQHBIq
--Steve
69464 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:54pm
Subject: RE: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do&.with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35 tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
While I have not tried it personally, Ive had a good friend try the Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with it.
Since the Explorer 8.8 disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind of upgrade.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69465 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:14pm
Subject: RE: Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Joe,
I thought I would let the group know that all went well. We hit a trial
that I had started a year or two ago but was forced to turn back on then
(tires too small that day). It had been a long time since 4x4s were on
the trail and this required us to stop on two different occasions and
build up the washed out areas so we could continue. We ended up back
tracking two times but eventually made it.
Scott???? He said he loved the tranny. Once, he even told me I could
drive it....but I never go to. (I think he was having too much fun!)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:27 PM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission
Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Gang,
I was supposed to meet Scott at his house to pickup a transmission jack
this
afternoon, but so far I have been unable to contact him. He was taking
his
rig out on a shakedown run for his new automatic transmission this
morning... anyone know how the run went?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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69466 From: sedonacowgirl <cowgirl@s...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:16pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Howdy! I will find out who that was - thanks, again!
As for Pink Jeep advertising "exclusivity", they had the only Forest
Service permits for Broken Arrow until two years ago, when a federal
judge ruled that permits were not necessary (it's public land - the
USFS cannot discriminate who can use it).
Now, Pink is suing the Forest Service and every tour company in town
who uses Broken Arrow. I guess I would be irritated if I had had a
trail all to myself for 15 years, built my whole business around it,
and paid obscene amounts of money to the USFS to use it. But the
USFS never gave them "exclusive" permits, in fact, their (now
defunct) permit reads "non-exclusive", so the lawsuit is,
understandably, making them even more unpopular than they already are.
Around here, they are viewed as the "evil empire".
I should mention that I have friends who work for them. These are
good people who are just trying to make a living here.
Unfortuneately, their owner is a spoiled rich brat who came into this
town thinking he was going to own it, and is throwing a fit because
he is not getting his way. This attitude has trickled down through
his company.
The owner of our company is a second generation native Sedonan, and
we just shake our heads at the political games going on here. We
concentrate on trying to keep things positive, cooperative and fun.
Some people just take things WAY too seriously! :D
Well, didn't mean to get up on my soapbox, but you asked! I hope
that none of this will affect anyone's ability to enjoy our otherwise
beautiful town.
Happy trails,
Nena
--- In az_vjc@y..., f968190@a... wrote:
> Do me a favor and thank your driver that would have been on the
trail around
> 1:30pm on Thursday. Tell him the guy in the gold XJ owes him a beer
(or pop)!
>
> Frank
>
> P.S. I noticed that the pink jeep tours flyer says that
they "exclusively"
> run the broken arrow trail. How can they get away with saying that?
You guys
> are out there too and I think I saw another company as well.
>
> In a message dated 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cowgirl@s... writes:
>
> > Subj: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday,
October 31,
> > 2002
> > Date: 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:cowgirl@s...">cowgirl@s...</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:azvjc@a...">azvjc@a...</A>
> > Sent from the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy! Glad to hear that you think the "yellow Jeep drivers are
> > great"! I run the "yellow Jeep" company (A Day in the West). We
> > have a lot of fun on Broken Arrow, too. (And if you think the
Pink
> > Jeep drivers are unfriendly to you...!)
> >
> > Hope to see you up here again soon.
> >
> > Happy trails!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
69467 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:31pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Yup. I think my next mod after my axle swap (axle is at 4 Wheelers now
getting an ARB), I'll be putting the rear disks on my TJ. Luckily, I
got some of the last Blaine retainer plates (THANKS STU!!).
Chris
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:54 PM, Stu Olson wrote:
> In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc
> brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with
> the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer
> ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is
> virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in
> my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a
> pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
>
>
>
> While I have not tried it personally, I’ve had a good friend try the
> Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with
> it.
>
>
>
> Since the Explorer 8.8” disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so
> similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as
> the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs
> out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind
> of upgrade.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
>
>
>
> It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern,
> Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in
> the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ
> rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the
> 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy
> calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my
> Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them
> work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad
> choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums
> (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with
> the calipers.
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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69468 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:34pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
If I were to tackle this I could probably use the spacers that came with my Warn kit ( I havent measured them but I think they are nearly 1/4" wide), I had to use them with my 10" drums from a ZJ.....(Warn suggests for strength that a 5th hole be drilled in both the brake backing plate and the axle flange, which I did, in the same place as you put the screw)........my problem is that I have the Warn 5X5.5 full floater conversion so I am at a loss as to what what kind of rotors would work, I certainly dont think CJ rotors would work as they did with the Warn conversion (I believe they might be taller than ZJ rotors and then there is the question of those cool brake shoes for the ebrake, the Caddy calipers used in the Warn conversion have an arm connected to a worm gear that actuates the piston in the caliper for the ebrake, that is the problem with those calipers, they were a problem when Caddy came out with them). Oh well, if anyone has any ideas on what rotor to use with a 5x5.5 axle, let me know.
Mike
69469 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: Going UP again...spring question
cowboy7575@a... wrote:
>
> Yepper, XJ's are SOA but MJ's (Comanche Truck based on the XJ for
> those of you that dont know it) are NOT. The nice thing about
> lifting an MJ is you can easlily get 7-8 inches in the back by doing
> the SOA with an add a leaf and extended shackles :-)
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Interesting. Did not know that. Does that mean you could just use MJ
(SUA) leafs packs on an XJ (SOA) and get 3-4" of lift? Are the leafs a
different length?
--
What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
69470 From: moontweezers <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: YJ third brake light wiring help
Hi,
I'm wiring in a third brake light that came with my new hard top.
The problem is, that my harness is for the soft top model, so it
doesn't have a dedicated third brake light plug. I spliced it into
the left tail light hot lead, it works fine, except now when I turn
on the left bliner the third brake light flashes too (very fast do
to the decreased resistance, I might add). any help would be much
appreciated.
thanks,
Mike Hudson
89 YJ
69471 From: moontweezers <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:54pm
Subject: Nice Job Quadratech/ cool headlight guards FS
Hey all,
I ordered some headlight and front turn signal light guards from
quadratech and they showed up with some paint scratched off from the
shipping process. I called them and they said they'd send a new set
right out. When I asked about arrangments to return the damaged set
they told me to keep them!! These things are about$45 and have one
very light scrape in the paint on one side, and they just gave me
free pair!! Great company to deal with. So, now I'll have an extra
set at the end of the week. Any body want them for say $25? There
four pieces, two for the blinkers and two for the headligts. These
are the black steel ones with just two bars going in front of the
lights (Not the crappy plastic ones or the mesh deals). If
yourviterested I can e-mail you pics.
thanks,
Mike Hudson
69472 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:56pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Hey Chris (or Stu, if you have a set lying around still),
Maybe you could take measurements and/or trace 'em on some paper, etc...
Hell, maybe I'll go on and have one of the machine shops here in Tucson (I know some people), fab up a run of 'em. I certainly don't want to pull one of my axles and pull it apart, to get the measurements.
Thanks,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Krieg
To: Stu Olson
Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Yup. I think my next mod after my axle swap (axle is at 4 Wheelers now getting an ARB), I'll be putting the rear disks on my TJ. Luckily, I got some of the last Blaine retainer plates (THANKS STU!!).
Chris
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:54 PM, Stu Olson wrote:
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.<>smaller><>color><>fontfamily>
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It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69473 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:59pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
The biggest thing that's different between the ZJ and Exploder ;) rear disk is that the bolt pattern is different on the axle end. What Currie and others do, that use the Explorer rear disk on their D44's, is cut the end of the D44 axle tubes off and weld on 9" ends. This also allows you to run the larger and stronger 9" bearings. A lot of places (Tera for one), sell the 9" ends.
If Tera is going to use the Explorer rear disk for their conversion, it'll be interesting to see how they do it. Maybe they've welded and re-drilled the caliber mounting brackets to match the holes in the D44 axles.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
While I have not tried it personally, I’ve had a good friend try the Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with it.
Since the Explorer 8.8” disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind of upgrade.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69474 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 7:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: A good tool
Y'all seem to have forgotten, that with many of the viruses, they e-mail
themselves, using the address book, without the person (who owns the
computer) knowledge. Often times they'll even use one of the address gleaned
from the address book as the return address, so it may not even be from the
person who's name is on the "From:" line.
Cheers,
Fred
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To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: A good tool
> Isn't this the same ID that had the virus attached on Friday???
>
> Chris
> 66 CJ-5
>
> Is he mad at the group for something?
>
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> >
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69450 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:31pm
Subject: Re: TJ won't idle. Need help!
I would say check your vacuum lines, and your O2 Sensors... What code are
you throwing? Hold down the mileage button, turn the jeep on and off 3
times while holding the button, releasing it on the 3rd time you turn the
ignition on, and leave it on... Write down the codes it spits out on your
odometer.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "bobandamanda2001" <dookie78@j...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 9:48 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ won't idle. Need help!
> I was doing about 65mph yesterday when my check engine light came on.
> When I came to a stop, the Jeep wouldn't idle. It runs very rough
> until it reaches about 1500 rpm, then runs fine anywhere above that.
> I thought I smelled fuel, but I didn't see any black smoke. I have
> 60,000 mi. on my Jeep, I replaced spark plugs, wires, cap & rotor at
> about 45,000mi. Could it be the o2 sensor? Or maybe the TPS or MAP
> sensor? The Jeep is a 99 TJ with 4.0L auto. Any comments or
> suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob Kennedy
> 99 TJ
>
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69451 From: <f968190@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 9:21am
Subject: Re: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Do me a favor and thank your driver that would have been on the trail around 1:30pm on Thursday. Tell him the guy in the gold XJ owes him a beer (or pop)!
Frank
P.S. I noticed that the pink jeep tours flyer says that they "exclusively" run the broken arrow trail. How can they get away with saying that? You guys are out there too and I think I saw another company as well.
In a message dated 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, cowgirl@sedona.net writes:
Subj: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Date: 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time
From: cowgirl@sedona.net
To: azvjc@azvjc.org
Sent from the Internet
Howdy! Glad to hear that you think the "yellow Jeep drivers are
great"! I run the "yellow Jeep" company (A Day in the West). We
have a lot of fun on Broken Arrow, too. (And if you think the Pink
Jeep drivers are unfriendly to you...!)
Hope to see you up here again soon.
Happy trails!
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69452 From: kwdunk95 <dunk95@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 2:31pm
Subject: Rockcrawler Hood for sale
FOR SALE: Campbell Enterprises Rockcrawler Hood for YJ Wrangler -
never used, still primed. New $650, will sell for $475 obo (buyer
pays shipping). You can see pictures of the hood in the Photo Album
listed under hood-pic 1 and hood-pic 2. Contact Ken 520-466-5591.
69453 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:00pm
Subject: 15x10 EA 589
I still have my 5 EA 589s for sale. They are 15x10 and 5 on 4.5 bolt
pattern. I have rockcrawlers on there now, and the 589s are
collecting dust in the garage.... asking $350 or best reasonable
offer... I need the money because my soft top is falling apart and I
need to get a new one. -Rob
69454 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:46pm
Subject: [FS] SM420 Trans ,
Price: 300.00 for package
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
SM 420 Trans, 175.00, New Gasket,20.00, 23 spline main shaft,175.00 New bearing retainer,30.00 Will Take 300.00 for the package.
Steve Barrett
69455 From: mini_dv1 <mini_dv1@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:46pm
Subject: custom exhaust setup.
The other day I hi centered my jeep, and slightly crushed the
exhaust pipe. (it wasn't that bad until my buddy came and helped me.
he would give me a little push and then let go, causing me to bounce
on the rocks.. argh.)
And the day after I smashed the pipe my jeep started to back fire,
spit, put and just die. So lucky me I broke down in front of a .99
cent store and managed to get a hacksaw and I cut the pipes on both
sides.. The pipe was smashed at the Y connection so I had to cut
both. The jeep runs fine now, just loud.
Now I am thinking of doing a custom exhaust job under the jeep.
Seeing how vulnerable the previous set up was I came up with the idea
of running the pipes on the inside of the frame. (frame is not boxed
in , yet). I understand there my be an issue with the heat
dissipation but think of the protection I will get from having my
pipes level with the frame. What does every one else think about
this idea? I can re-wire the brake lights to run under the body, my
gas tank is under the drivers seat. …
Oh.. the jeep got its first off-road casualty .. a smashed rocker
panel. :D looks cute I think. And was surprised by my bondo job not
falling off. Just cracking.
and i discovered my right tire doesnt like to spin in 4 wheel drive.
might be the locking hub.
Brendan
69 CJ5
buick 225
some gum,
a lighter and a knife..
69456 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 3:48pm
Subject: [FS] SM420 Trans ,
Price: 300.00 for package
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
SM 420 Trans, 175.00, New GasketKit, 23 spline main shaft,175.00 New bearing retainer,30.00 Will Take 300.00 for the package.
Steve Barrett
69457 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:14pm
Subject: [FS] YJ Front Revolver Shackles, YJ rear leafs, other misc. jeep parts
Price: 5.00---60.00
Contact: Steve Barrett 623-582-1529
Steve Barrett
69458 From: Jake <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:34pm
Subject: TJ Sliding Upper Windows
Hi All:
My upper doors are about 18 months old and the zippers are worn out,
was wondering what everyone though of the Best Top Sliding Window
upper doors? I know they are a little pricey, just wondering if it's
any quieter with them versus the soft zip down windows? I'm running
the bikini with the windjammer/tonneau cover combo. Eventually I
plan on going to a Hard Top, didn't know if anyone is running these
with a hard top?
Please e-mail me off the list @ jakewagner@y...
Thanks!
Jake, OOTJ
69459 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 4:44pm
Subject: RE: TJ won't idle. Need help!
Hi Bob,
I'm guessing that it's the TPS (Throttle Position Sensor). They are
notorious for failing... especially if they get wet. You can check by
reading the code returned by the computer.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: bobandamanda2001 [mailto:dookie78@j...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 9:48 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ won't idle. Need help!
I was doing about 65mph yesterday when my check engine light came on.
When I came to a stop, the Jeep wouldn't idle. It runs very rough
until it reaches about 1500 rpm, then runs fine anywhere above that.
I thought I smelled fuel, but I didn't see any black smoke. I have
60,000 mi. on my Jeep, I replaced spark plugs, wires, cap & rotor at
about 45,000mi. Could it be the o2 sensor? Or maybe the TPS or MAP
sensor? The Jeep is a 99 TJ with 4.0L auto. Any comments or
suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Bob Kennedy
99 TJ
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69460 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:21pm
Subject: [FS] Wanted - YJ front shackles
Price: ?????
Contact: mike@mcnabs.com
I need a set of front YJ shackles, preferably 1/2" to 1" lift, but any will do. (602) 618-8777.
Mike McNab
69461 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:27pm
Subject: Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Gang,
I was supposed to meet Scott at his house to pickup a transmission jack this
afternoon, but so far I have been unable to contact him. He was taking his
rig out on a shakedown run for his new automatic transmission this
morning... anyone know how the run went?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
69462 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:39pm
Subject: RE: On my way to AZ?
Jonathan,
Congrats on your passing the Tech test! I am sure you will enjoy the
hobby. I find that ham radio and Jeeps compliment each other very
nicely! I am sure you will too.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Moore [mailto:jm9n@u...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 8:36 AM
To: Stu Olson; Damon Gentile; azvjc
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] On my way to AZ?
Well, I just want to jump in here not that I have any useful information
other than I just got back from taking my Technician Test and PASSED!
Just
had to tell somebody.
Jonathan (In VA but looking at a move to AZ)
At 11:09 AM 11/1/02 -0700, Stu Olson wrote:
>Damon,
>
>I am not able to provide you with the repeater info right now, but I
can
>later on.
>
>Drop me an e-mail this weekend and I can give you a few freqs. Maybe
we can
>hook up when you get down here.
>
>N7QJP.......Stu
>
>
>Stu Olson
>www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Damon Gentile [mailto:dgentile@s...]
>Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 10:03 AM
>To: azvjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] On my way to AZ?
>
>
>
>Hey folks. Kinda been lurking wayyy back here for a while :-)
>Currently living in Maine and will be heading out shortly (within
>a week?) to give my folks a pretty decent CJ7.
>
>The two most pressing quesitons that I can think of...
>
>Can anyone recommend a good, competent shop in the NW valey
>(Surprise area, but a GOOD guy anywhere is better than a bad
>shop that's local!). Somplace not afraid of a non-stock jeep.
>It's an 86 CJ7, 258w/hei&cam, lockup 727, locked D44s, OME reversal,
>OBA, OBW etc.
>
>Also - Are there many hams out there that can point me to some
>active UHF/VHF repeaters in the area?
>
>TIA,
>-d
>
>
>
>
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69463 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 2, 2002 5:48pm
Subject: Photo's from Upper Ajax Today...
Here's a link to photo's from my run on Upper Ajax today. It was mostly a "stack and unstack rocks for the Tacoma" run. Today's casualties were one dent in the tacoma bed, a bent jeep leaf spring, and two torn BFG tires.
http://community.webshots.com/album/54090974HQHBIq
--Steve
69464 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 5:54pm
Subject: RE: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do&.with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35 tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
While I have not tried it personally, Ive had a good friend try the Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with it.
Since the Explorer 8.8 disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind of upgrade.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69465 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:14pm
Subject: RE: Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Joe,
I thought I would let the group know that all went well. We hit a trial
that I had started a year or two ago but was forced to turn back on then
(tires too small that day). It had been a long time since 4x4s were on
the trail and this required us to stop on two different occasions and
build up the washed out areas so we could continue. We ended up back
tracking two times but eventually made it.
Scott???? He said he loved the tranny. Once, he even told me I could
drive it....but I never go to. (I think he was having too much fun!)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:27 PM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Anyone heard how Scott Kruize's Automatic Transmission
Shakedown Run Went Today?
Hi Gang,
I was supposed to meet Scott at his house to pickup a transmission jack
this
afternoon, but so far I have been unable to contact him. He was taking
his
rig out on a shakedown run for his new automatic transmission this
morning... anyone know how the run went?
Kind Regards,
Joe West
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69466 From: sedonacowgirl <cowgirl@s...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:16pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday, October 31, 2002
Howdy! I will find out who that was - thanks, again!
As for Pink Jeep advertising "exclusivity", they had the only Forest
Service permits for Broken Arrow until two years ago, when a federal
judge ruled that permits were not necessary (it's public land - the
USFS cannot discriminate who can use it).
Now, Pink is suing the Forest Service and every tour company in town
who uses Broken Arrow. I guess I would be irritated if I had had a
trail all to myself for 15 years, built my whole business around it,
and paid obscene amounts of money to the USFS to use it. But the
USFS never gave them "exclusive" permits, in fact, their (now
defunct) permit reads "non-exclusive", so the lawsuit is,
understandably, making them even more unpopular than they already are.
Around here, they are viewed as the "evil empire".
I should mention that I have friends who work for them. These are
good people who are just trying to make a living here.
Unfortuneately, their owner is a spoiled rich brat who came into this
town thinking he was going to own it, and is throwing a fit because
he is not getting his way. This attitude has trickled down through
his company.
The owner of our company is a second generation native Sedonan, and
we just shake our heads at the political games going on here. We
concentrate on trying to keep things positive, cooperative and fun.
Some people just take things WAY too seriously! :D
Well, didn't mean to get up on my soapbox, but you asked! I hope
that none of this will affect anyone's ability to enjoy our otherwise
beautiful town.
Happy trails,
Nena
--- In az_vjc@y..., f968190@a... wrote:
> Do me a favor and thank your driver that would have been on the
trail around
> 1:30pm on Thursday. Tell him the guy in the gold XJ owes him a beer
(or pop)!
>
> Frank
>
> P.S. I noticed that the pink jeep tours flyer says that
they "exclusively"
> run the broken arrow trail. How can they get away with saying that?
You guys
> are out there too and I think I saw another company as well.
>
> In a message dated 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> cowgirl@s... writes:
>
> > Subj: [az_vjc] Re: [TR] Trip Report - Broken Arrow - Thursday,
October 31,
> > 2002
> > Date: 11/1/2002 10:13:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time
> > From: <A HREF="mailto:cowgirl@s...">cowgirl@s...</A>
> > To: <A HREF="mailto:azvjc@a...">azvjc@a...</A>
> > Sent from the Internet
> >
> >
> >
> > Howdy! Glad to hear that you think the "yellow Jeep drivers are
> > great"! I run the "yellow Jeep" company (A Day in the West). We
> > have a lot of fun on Broken Arrow, too. (And if you think the
Pink
> > Jeep drivers are unfriendly to you...!)
> >
> > Hope to see you up here again soon.
> >
> > Happy trails!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
69467 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:31pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Yup. I think my next mod after my axle swap (axle is at 4 Wheelers now
getting an ARB), I'll be putting the rear disks on my TJ. Luckily, I
got some of the last Blaine retainer plates (THANKS STU!!).
Chris
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:54 PM, Stu Olson wrote:
> In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc
> brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with
> the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer
> ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is
> virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in
> my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a
> pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
>
>
>
> While I have not tried it personally, I’ve had a good friend try the
> Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with
> it.
>
>
>
> Since the Explorer 8.8” disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so
> similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as
> the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs
> out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind
> of upgrade.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
>
>
>
> It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern,
> Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in
> the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ
> rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the
> 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy
> calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my
> Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them
> work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad
> choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums
> (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with
> the calipers.
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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69468 From: <cowboy7575@a...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 1:34pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
If I were to tackle this I could probably use the spacers that came with my Warn kit ( I havent measured them but I think they are nearly 1/4" wide), I had to use them with my 10" drums from a ZJ.....(Warn suggests for strength that a 5th hole be drilled in both the brake backing plate and the axle flange, which I did, in the same place as you put the screw)........my problem is that I have the Warn 5X5.5 full floater conversion so I am at a loss as to what what kind of rotors would work, I certainly dont think CJ rotors would work as they did with the Warn conversion (I believe they might be taller than ZJ rotors and then there is the question of those cool brake shoes for the ebrake, the Caddy calipers used in the Warn conversion have an arm connected to a worm gear that actuates the piston in the caliper for the ebrake, that is the problem with those calipers, they were a problem when Caddy came out with them). Oh well, if anyone has any ideas on what rotor to use with a 5x5.5 axle, let me know.
Mike
69469 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: Going UP again...spring question
cowboy7575@a... wrote:
>
> Yepper, XJ's are SOA but MJ's (Comanche Truck based on the XJ for
> those of you that dont know it) are NOT. The nice thing about
> lifting an MJ is you can easlily get 7-8 inches in the back by doing
> the SOA with an add a leaf and extended shackles :-)
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Interesting. Did not know that. Does that mean you could just use MJ
(SUA) leafs packs on an XJ (SOA) and get 3-4" of lift? Are the leafs a
different length?
--
What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry
69470 From: moontweezers <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: YJ third brake light wiring help
Hi,
I'm wiring in a third brake light that came with my new hard top.
The problem is, that my harness is for the soft top model, so it
doesn't have a dedicated third brake light plug. I spliced it into
the left tail light hot lead, it works fine, except now when I turn
on the left bliner the third brake light flashes too (very fast do
to the decreased resistance, I might add). any help would be much
appreciated.
thanks,
Mike Hudson
89 YJ
69471 From: moontweezers <mikereid2@e...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:54pm
Subject: Nice Job Quadratech/ cool headlight guards FS
Hey all,
I ordered some headlight and front turn signal light guards from
quadratech and they showed up with some paint scratched off from the
shipping process. I called them and they said they'd send a new set
right out. When I asked about arrangments to return the damaged set
they told me to keep them!! These things are about$45 and have one
very light scrape in the paint on one side, and they just gave me
free pair!! Great company to deal with. So, now I'll have an extra
set at the end of the week. Any body want them for say $25? There
four pieces, two for the blinkers and two for the headligts. These
are the black steel ones with just two bars going in front of the
lights (Not the crappy plastic ones or the mesh deals). If
yourviterested I can e-mail you pics.
thanks,
Mike Hudson
69472 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:56pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Hey Chris (or Stu, if you have a set lying around still),
Maybe you could take measurements and/or trace 'em on some paper, etc...
Hell, maybe I'll go on and have one of the machine shops here in Tucson (I know some people), fab up a run of 'em. I certainly don't want to pull one of my axles and pull it apart, to get the measurements.
Thanks,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Krieg
To: Stu Olson
Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
Yup. I think my next mod after my axle swap (axle is at 4 Wheelers now getting an ARB), I'll be putting the rear disks on my TJ. Luckily, I got some of the last Blaine retainer plates (THANKS STU!!).
Chris
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 06:54 PM, Stu Olson wrote:
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.<>smaller><>color><>fontfamily>
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Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
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It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69473 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 6:59pm
Subject: Re: Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
The biggest thing that's different between the ZJ and Exploder ;) rear disk is that the bolt pattern is different on the axle end. What Currie and others do, that use the Explorer rear disk on their D44's, is cut the end of the D44 axle tubes off and weld on 9" ends. This also allows you to run the larger and stronger 9" bearings. A lot of places (Tera for one), sell the 9" ends.
If Tera is going to use the Explorer rear disk for their conversion, it'll be interesting to see how they do it. Maybe they've welded and re-drilled the caliber mounting brackets to match the holes in the D44 axles.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: cowboy7575@aol.com ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 6:54 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
In contrast to the conversion you mentioned, putting the ZJ disc brakes on a TJ is wonderful. The conversion is so easy to do….with the exception of the necessary modified retainer plate (or a spacer ring) that compensates for the thickness of the caliper bracket, it is virtually plug and play. My 35” tires stop like a stock vehicle, in my opinion. The ZJ e-brake drum also works just fine. I bought a pair of ZJ e-brake cables and hooked them up to the TJ actuator.
While I have not tried it personally, I’ve had a good friend try the Stainless disc brake kit on his CJ-7. He was COMPLETELY unhappy with it.
Since the Explorer 8.8” disc brakes and the ZJ disc brakes are so similar (some of the e-brake components are interchangeable, such as the shoes), they should work well. I hope Tera works ALL of the bugs out and does not do there typical, IMHO, almost fully engineered kind of upgrade.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: cowboy7575@aol.com [mailto:cowboy7575@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 1:35 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Subject: RE: [Tech] 2000 TJ - Rear Discs for D44-00TJ
It looks like your bolt pattern is the smaller Wrangler bolt pattern, Would this conversion work if you had the Warn 5x5.5 full floaters in the rear ? If so, you would need different rotors or have the ZJ rotors re-drilled. Just a thought or observation. I have the 5x5.5 conversion on mine and used the Warn disc conversion with Caddy calipers, I can tell you the Warn disc conversion sucked on my Wrangler, Warn says you may have to bend the brackets to make them work properly, yes you certainly do but the Caddy calipers are a bad choice but necessary if you want an Ebrake. I went back to drums (but the bigger 10" ones from a ZJ) due to continuing problems with the calipers.
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69474 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Sat Nov 2, 2002 7:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: A good tool
Y'all seem to have forgotten, that with many of the viruses, they e-mail
themselves, using the address book, without the person (who owns the
computer) knowledge. Often times they'll even use one of the address gleaned
from the address book as the return address, so it may not even be from the
person who's name is on the "From:" line.
Cheers,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "ccgaiser" <ccgaiser@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 2:12 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: A good tool
> Isn't this the same ID that had the virus attached on Friday???
>
> Chris
> 66 CJ-5
>
> Is he mad at the group for something?
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., jpcrawleram <ebnhils@e...> wrote:
> >
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