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68864 From: <azdesertrhino@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:36am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2911
In a message dated 10/27/2002 4:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
CAN I GET AN AMEN!
AMEN, AMEN !!
Jim
Tucson 76 CJ-5
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68865 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:45pm
Subject: Re: 00 TJ Tansmission Mount - Dealer item?
Poly mount at 4 Wheel Supply on Washington. $44.00. Dealer item started at a bout $70.00! I have a used rubber one if anyone needs it. It was given to me and I used for about 2 weeks before getting the poly one.
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 00 TJ Tansmission Mount - Dealer item?
Can someone confirm what the auto parts stores (checker/auto zone/napa) are saying about the transmission mount on my 00 TJ (5pd/4.0L) being a dealer item?
I know there are poly aftermarket ones available, but I have heard those give off some vibes, opinions?
-Mike
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68866 From: <azdesertrhino@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:40am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2911
Well said and so true, as I said before, a small segment screws it up for the masses.
In a message dated 10/27/2002 4:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
I love to shoot....I own more guns than I have time to use. However,
just like irresponsible OHV users......stupid shooters give the
responsible ones a black eye too. It is time to stop defending them
(and being offended when someone points them out) and time to start
getting them shut down (ie., arrested, fined, ticketed, guns
confiscated, etc.)
Stu
68867 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:15pm
Subject: RE: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Silly Boys, everybody knows XJ's are the best. Coils and leafs. It's what
every YJ/TJ owner wishes for ;)
Rick
It's an XJ thing...you wouldn't understand
-----Original Message-----
From: scott liberty [mailto:vtboy73@y...]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 2:39 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
So my friend got the okay from his wife to put on his suspension
for his TJ. So we have been wrenchin on it since 10:30 w/hour or so
rain delay.Before the rain hit we had finished the front.So far so
good.So now we are starting on the rear. I jack up the rear put the
stands under and to my suprise I find plastic sway bar
exstentions.WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?.Those bar pins for the shocks that
has got to be the biggest mistake that DC has made. I have to laugh
at the plastic parts on a suspension component.Trying to save some
money I see.The install is not really that bad.If this was an install
on a YJ we would already be on the trails testing.
92 yj 4cyl SOA Locked
Scott
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68868 From: <gotrox@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:26pm
Subject: Spook Rally
Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in Crown King. <grin>
Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
-Jeep Polo
-Lab Tech
So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
Neal Han****,
Arizona Rock Crawlers
68869 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Manual Tranny Fluid
4 Wheelers Supply carries it
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 02:25 PM, Jake Wagner wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I've been changing out the usual fluids, etc and someone had mentioned
> in the past I should put Redline in my tranny. I know the book says
> the tranny fluid is lifetime, but it's BS we all know it. Just like
> plugs are suppossed to be lifetime, yet I change them every 25K and
> get my performance back.
>
> What 4x4 dealers in town carry Redline Tranny fluid? How much do I
> need to fill my tranny that is in my 2.5L '00 TJ.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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68870 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:39pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Whats that matter again? Anyway its 968 on Johns 25*:)
Scott M
--- In az_vjc@y..., sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> Whats your RTI again?
>
> Sharky
68871 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:39pm
Subject: RE: Manual Tranny Fluid
That is good to know! I would much rather go there and spend my $$.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Jake Wagner
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Manual Tranny Fluid
4 Wheelers Supply carries it
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 02:25 PM, Jake Wagner wrote:
Hi All:
I've been changing out the usual fluids, etc and someone had mentioned in the past I should put Redline in my tranny. I know the book says the tranny fluid is lifetime, but it's BS we all know it. Just like plugs are suppossed to be lifetime, yet I change them every 25K and get my performance back.
What 4x4 dealers in town carry Redline Tranny fluid? How much do I need to fill my tranny that is in my 2.5L '00 TJ.
Thanks!
Jake
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68872 From: Eric <parajeeper02@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:42pm
Subject: Re: Raw Deal
Again I was not defending anyone just asking all of you to stop
passing blame to other groups and start working with them, If I had
made a comment on a shooting or Dirt-bike board about Jeepers similar
to the ones that were made about Shooters then you would be upset as
well.........
-- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Eric,
>
> Hold on a second.....please slow down.
>
> #1. I've no idea how long you have been involved with the AZVJC.
From
> your comments, it does not sound like you have been on the cleanups
we
> have helped on at Table Mesa. If so, your comments don't seem to
stack
> up to what you would have experienced out there while on a cleanup.
>
> #2. We have helped clean up the Table Mesa primary shooting areas
> several times (at least I have) and frankly, it is very much like
> pissing into the wind. A month after you did it, it looks the same
> again.
>
> #3. I am very glad to hear you pick up your brass....thank you (I
too
> shoot and reload, etc.)
>
> #4. A LOT of people that shoot at Table Mesa DO NOT pick up their
> brass, targets, back stops, etc. If you doubt this, please drive
out
> there on a nice weekend, park your butt up on a nice overlook (being
> careful not to get shot) and watch them with a good pair of
binoculars.
> I accompanied a large group (about 50) of state and federal land
> management agency people out there just this past weekend. I feel
> confident they can back up my claim that the place looked like a
****
> hole.
>
> #5. It is too bad you were offended by the previous
comment....however,
> you can check last year's participant list....the list that you
sign in
> on when they give you the trash bags so you can clean up (Table
Mesa).
> You will find that vast majority of those signing up are off-
roaders of
> some type (and they are not the wants making that mess). Please
do not
> stand on a soap box and preach about how the shooters at Table Mesa
take
> care of their own mess! THEY DO NOT!
>
> #6. Last year's cleanup saw people posting notices of the cleanup
at
> shooting stores, etc. I was told that gun clubs were invited,
etc. See
> #5 above as to how many shooters participated. (ie., people who
ONLY
> shoot and do NOT also off-road)
>
> #7. Please do NOT tell me that it is just illegal dumpers that
leave
> everything out there and it is the innocent shooters that come
along and
> pump it full of bullet holes. Bull****! Let me tell you of a
> conversation that was related to me just last night.....some friends
> were over and off-roading, shooting, camping, etc. came up during
> conversation. The person said "You should have seen what my cousin
did
> a while ago. They had a bunch of computer equipment that they
didn't
> want. They took all of it and a portable generator out to the
desert.
> They got all of the equipment up and running and then proceeded to
shoot
> it all up." Sorry....that was not simply a case of illegal
> dumping....that was people wanting to see arcs and sparks when they
shot
> video terminals, etc.
>
> I love to shoot....I own more guns than I have time to use.
However,
> just like irresponsible OHV users......stupid shooters give the
> responsible ones a black eye too. It is time to stop defending them
> (and being offended when someone points them out) and time to start
> getting them shut down (ie., arrested, fined, ticketed, guns
> confiscated, etc.)
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric [mailto:parajeeper02@y...]
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Raw Deal
>
> That's like saying that the trails aren't going to be cleaned up
> because the majority of the people who drive offroad dont' really
> know or care about our lands....... etc. etc.
>
> Your statements are just the kind of statements we as an offroad
> community loathe. I like to go to places other than a range to
shoot.
> I pick up my brass and others brass and I pack out what I brough in
> so I am pretty offended by your one-sided statements.
>
>
> First off most of the trash out there is DUMPED by scumbags who
have
> no concern for teh enviroment or lae not brought by the shooters
> albiet it is the irresposible shooters are the ones putting holes
in
> every TV, Refrigerator, etc that they find out there but how many
> times have we driven by this stuff and left it there as well.
>
> There are MANY groups that use the desert, shooters, OHV'ers,
hikers,
> campers, geocachersm etc. I think before we make commenst like the
> ones I am seeing we contact the organized groups of shooters,
> OHV'ers, Geocachers etc that care JUST AS MUCH AS WE DO about
taking
> care of the areas we all SHARE and work WITH them to clean these
> areas up instead of cleaning them up ourselves so we can garner
> the "we did it and you didn't" glory which only alienates the
> different groups all together which is what the Ant-recreationists
> want....... if we join forces we are more powerful than if we work
as
> seperate entities.
>
> -- Eric
> - Jeeper, OHVer, Shooter, Mountain Biker, Hiker, Camper,
> Recreationist.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., chaton602@a... wrote:
> > Well, leaving it for the shooters to clean up isn't going to
> happen, only
> > because the majority of people out there who shoot in other than
a
> range,
> > don't really know or care about our lands and what's ahead for
them
> (as far
> > as usage) in the future. If an area is used for target practice
and
> brass is
> > what seems to be your momentary soil, then the majority of field
> shooters are
> > going to leave their brass where it falls. Personally (and this
is
> just my
> > opinion), I believe designated shooting ranges are the only
places
> we should
> > shoot (unless of course your out hunting). all in all, cleaning
up
> these
> > areas would be great. Maybe when these irresponsible trash hogs
and
> brass
> > bombers see that these areas are clean, it'll help promote to
> maintain the
> > grounds that they stand on....
>
>
>
>
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68873 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:46pm
Subject: Re: Spook Rally
I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and I
had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I am
definitely going again next year.:)
Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
putting this event on.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family
in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in
Crown King. <grin>
>
> Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> -Jeep Polo
> -Lab Tech
>
> So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
>
>
>
> Neal Han****,
> Arizona Rock Crawlers
68874 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:58pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter any
official information on it, from Tera.
Did I miss something?
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Anyone got a price yet?
>
> Lachlan
68875 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:04pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
You and I have *BOTH* probably missed something! LOL! I
haven't heard that it's out yet, but I haven't been listening for it,
either. That's why I was wondering. Oh, to be able to shove that
four banger a few inches forward to fit a crawler box...
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter
any
> official information on it, from Tera.
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone got a price yet?
> >
> > Lachlan
68876 From: Dan Coley <crawlintj@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:05pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
Asked them when I worked at DR about 4 months ago, and they said it
was min. 6 months out.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter
any
> official information on it, from Tera.
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone got a price yet?
> >
> > Lachlan
68877 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:28pm
Subject: Re: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
Sharky
68878 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:31pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Easy now Woody :)
Hows the rig doing?...oh and hows the tree too? :)
Sharky
68879 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:35pm
Subject: [FS] bought a tow rig have some extras I do not need
Price:
Contact: hackle@qwest.net
RBW Industries 5th Wheel hitch 15K includes sliders and all hardware except 4 weld on brackets to the frame (as they are welded on my truck). $250.00
5th Wheel V-tool box diamond plate Ford Super duty $250
50 Gal Diesel reserve tank bed mount will include all plumbing and pump. $150.00
I just bought this truck and have not even removed this stuff yet. Thought I would see if anyone in the group was looking for any of these itmes. All are out of a Ford super Duty although I doubt it matters for most of it. Thanks Jim F.
- Jim Florence
Jim Florence
68880 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
I had fun as well.
It was good spending time with family and friends.
It definitely was an exciting weekend for people named "John"...
but I'll let them tell their stories if so inclined.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Spook Rally
> I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and I
> had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
> Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
> over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
> fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I am
> definitely going again next year.:)
>
> Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
> putting this event on.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> > Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
> Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
> left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family
> in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
> trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
> Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in
> Crown King. <grin>
> >
> > Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> > -Jeep Polo
> > -Lab Tech
> >
> > So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neal Han****,
> > Arizona Rock Crawlers
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
68881 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:42pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Cmon Sharky you know a ramp doesnt measure true flex. Now if you made
two ramps and drove the drivers front and passenger rear at the same
time, that would be a good measurement I think. So whats yours:)
Scott Maiden
PS Dont make me tell them what I heard on the radio;P LOL
--- In az_vjc@y..., sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
>
> Sharky
68882 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:43pm
Subject: RE: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
I think flex is important also. What was your RTI at the BarBQ Sharky?? :)
Jim F.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:29 PM
To: bermboy@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
Sharky
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68883 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Spook Rally
Bwahahaha! You are evil Bill:)
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> I had fun as well.
> It was good spending time with family and friends.
> It definitely was an exciting weekend for people named "John"...
> but I'll let them tell their stories if so inclined.
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:46 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Spook Rally
>
>
> > I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and
I
> > had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
> > Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
> > over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
> > fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I
am
> > definitely going again next year.:)
> >
> > Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
> > putting this event on.
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> > > Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
> > Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
> > left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my
family
> > in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
> > trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
> > Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up
in
> > Crown King. <grin>
> > >
> > > Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> > > -Jeep Polo
> > > -Lab Tech
> > >
> > > So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great
time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neal Han****,
> > > Arizona Rock Crawlers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
68884 From: <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
I will tell if John is 'not so inclined'...... :)
68885 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
The Spook Rally was by far one of the best 4x4 events I have ever been too. Its nice to see a club who can run a show as complicated as this was and do it well. Many, many thanks got the Arizona Rough Riders and some of the sponsering clubs that helped. (forgive me for not remembering). Alot ofextra hard work went into this that many will never know. Great Show! Will be back for sure next year.
It was also nice to get a chance to hang out with some other AZVJC'ers. Scott Maiden, Bill Mish, and Neal Han****. (Interesting crowd, I assure you. Learned some new words from them..) I saw some other AZ stickers too, Allison (I think) with the Maroon TJ and a gold Cherokee (2001) which belongs to Jack.
Thanks to all again, had a blast....
Best Regards...
John K
As far as my "exciting weekend" goes.. well ya should have been there....
68886 From: Jon Loveless-DSL <jloveless@d...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:53pm
Subject: children
Now, children& (and if you don't think you are children, read the last 50 or so posts&jeez. Let's just go clean up the mess and stop blaming)
Jon Loveless
480-816-0963
jloveless@directvinternet.com
jloveless@delphi-tech.com
68887 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 6:08pm
Subject: Is Flex Over-Rated?
Assuming locked axles.
Does it really matter if:
A wheel is hanging in the air because the axle will not articulate:
Or that same wheel is falling down to the rock under it with only the axle's own weight to provide a basis for traction and push.
This is a serious question. I drive a CJ that could win the stiffest jeep of the club award. I wonder what the difference is between a wheel in the air and a wheel drooping to the ground when the wheel in the air will not spin?
Someone please tell me if flex is more than just cool.
TIA
John Visic
68888 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 6:01pm
Subject: Anyone have an NV4500 For Sale?
Hi Gang,
I'll be purchasing an NV4500 sometime in the next few days (most likely
through 4 wheeler's supply, I'm waiting on a final quote) unless someone on
the group happens to have a new or used one for sale.
If you have one for sale... give me a call (602) 524-7632 and leave me a
message. I'll be out of town all next week on business travel and won't be
able to check my email.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
68864 From: <azdesertrhino@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:36am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2911
In a message dated 10/27/2002 4:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
CAN I GET AN AMEN!
AMEN, AMEN !!
Jim
Tucson 76 CJ-5
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68865 From: Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:45pm
Subject: Re: 00 TJ Tansmission Mount - Dealer item?
Poly mount at 4 Wheel Supply on Washington. $44.00. Dealer item started at a bout $70.00! I have a used rubber one if anyone needs it. It was given to me and I used for about 2 weeks before getting the poly one.
Bill W
K7ANT a.k.a. "Antman"
97 TJ with a few mods.
http://k7ant.rockcrawler.com/
Up on the Mogollon Rim in God and 4 wheeler's country.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 00 TJ Tansmission Mount - Dealer item?
Can someone confirm what the auto parts stores (checker/auto zone/napa) are saying about the transmission mount on my 00 TJ (5pd/4.0L) being a dealer item?
I know there are poly aftermarket ones available, but I have heard those give off some vibes, opinions?
-Mike
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68866 From: <azdesertrhino@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 10:40am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2911
Well said and so true, as I said before, a small segment screws it up for the masses.
In a message dated 10/27/2002 4:25:08 PM US Mountain Standard Time, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
I love to shoot....I own more guns than I have time to use. However,
just like irresponsible OHV users......stupid shooters give the
responsible ones a black eye too. It is time to stop defending them
(and being offended when someone points them out) and time to start
getting them shut down (ie., arrested, fined, ticketed, guns
confiscated, etc.)
Stu
68867 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:15pm
Subject: RE: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Silly Boys, everybody knows XJ's are the best. Coils and leafs. It's what
every YJ/TJ owner wishes for ;)
Rick
It's an XJ thing...you wouldn't understand
-----Original Message-----
From: scott liberty [mailto:vtboy73@y...]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 2:39 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
So my friend got the okay from his wife to put on his suspension
for his TJ. So we have been wrenchin on it since 10:30 w/hour or so
rain delay.Before the rain hit we had finished the front.So far so
good.So now we are starting on the rear. I jack up the rear put the
stands under and to my suprise I find plastic sway bar
exstentions.WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?.Those bar pins for the shocks that
has got to be the biggest mistake that DC has made. I have to laugh
at the plastic parts on a suspension component.Trying to save some
money I see.The install is not really that bad.If this was an install
on a YJ we would already be on the trails testing.
92 yj 4cyl SOA Locked
Scott
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68868 From: <gotrox@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:26pm
Subject: Spook Rally
Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in Crown King. <grin>
Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
-Jeep Polo
-Lab Tech
So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
Neal Han****,
Arizona Rock Crawlers
68869 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Manual Tranny Fluid
4 Wheelers Supply carries it
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 02:25 PM, Jake Wagner wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> I've been changing out the usual fluids, etc and someone had mentioned
> in the past I should put Redline in my tranny. I know the book says
> the tranny fluid is lifetime, but it's BS we all know it. Just like
> plugs are suppossed to be lifetime, yet I change them every 25K and
> get my performance back.
>
> What 4x4 dealers in town carry Redline Tranny fluid? How much do I
> need to fill my tranny that is in my 2.5L '00 TJ.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jake
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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68870 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:39pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Whats that matter again? Anyway its 968 on Johns 25*:)
Scott M
--- In az_vjc@y..., sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> Whats your RTI again?
>
> Sharky
68871 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:39pm
Subject: RE: Manual Tranny Fluid
That is good to know! I would much rather go there and spend my $$.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:28 PM
To: Jake Wagner
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Manual Tranny Fluid
4 Wheelers Supply carries it
On Sunday, October 27, 2002, at 02:25 PM, Jake Wagner wrote:
Hi All:
I've been changing out the usual fluids, etc and someone had mentioned in the past I should put Redline in my tranny. I know the book says the tranny fluid is lifetime, but it's BS we all know it. Just like plugs are suppossed to be lifetime, yet I change them every 25K and get my performance back.
What 4x4 dealers in town carry Redline Tranny fluid? How much do I need to fill my tranny that is in my 2.5L '00 TJ.
Thanks!
Jake
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68872 From: Eric <parajeeper02@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:42pm
Subject: Re: Raw Deal
Again I was not defending anyone just asking all of you to stop
passing blame to other groups and start working with them, If I had
made a comment on a shooting or Dirt-bike board about Jeepers similar
to the ones that were made about Shooters then you would be upset as
well.........
-- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Eric,
>
> Eric,
>
> Hold on a second.....please slow down.
>
> #1. I've no idea how long you have been involved with the AZVJC.
From
> your comments, it does not sound like you have been on the cleanups
we
> have helped on at Table Mesa. If so, your comments don't seem to
stack
> up to what you would have experienced out there while on a cleanup.
>
> #2. We have helped clean up the Table Mesa primary shooting areas
> several times (at least I have) and frankly, it is very much like
> pissing into the wind. A month after you did it, it looks the same
> again.
>
> #3. I am very glad to hear you pick up your brass....thank you (I
too
> shoot and reload, etc.)
>
> #4. A LOT of people that shoot at Table Mesa DO NOT pick up their
> brass, targets, back stops, etc. If you doubt this, please drive
out
> there on a nice weekend, park your butt up on a nice overlook (being
> careful not to get shot) and watch them with a good pair of
binoculars.
> I accompanied a large group (about 50) of state and federal land
> management agency people out there just this past weekend. I feel
> confident they can back up my claim that the place looked like a
****
> hole.
>
> #5. It is too bad you were offended by the previous
comment....however,
> you can check last year's participant list....the list that you
sign in
> on when they give you the trash bags so you can clean up (Table
Mesa).
> You will find that vast majority of those signing up are off-
roaders of
> some type (and they are not the wants making that mess). Please
do not
> stand on a soap box and preach about how the shooters at Table Mesa
take
> care of their own mess! THEY DO NOT!
>
> #6. Last year's cleanup saw people posting notices of the cleanup
at
> shooting stores, etc. I was told that gun clubs were invited,
etc. See
> #5 above as to how many shooters participated. (ie., people who
ONLY
> shoot and do NOT also off-road)
>
> #7. Please do NOT tell me that it is just illegal dumpers that
leave
> everything out there and it is the innocent shooters that come
along and
> pump it full of bullet holes. Bull****! Let me tell you of a
> conversation that was related to me just last night.....some friends
> were over and off-roading, shooting, camping, etc. came up during
> conversation. The person said "You should have seen what my cousin
did
> a while ago. They had a bunch of computer equipment that they
didn't
> want. They took all of it and a portable generator out to the
desert.
> They got all of the equipment up and running and then proceeded to
shoot
> it all up." Sorry....that was not simply a case of illegal
> dumping....that was people wanting to see arcs and sparks when they
shot
> video terminals, etc.
>
> I love to shoot....I own more guns than I have time to use.
However,
> just like irresponsible OHV users......stupid shooters give the
> responsible ones a black eye too. It is time to stop defending them
> (and being offended when someone points them out) and time to start
> getting them shut down (ie., arrested, fined, ticketed, guns
> confiscated, etc.)
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric [mailto:parajeeper02@y...]
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Raw Deal
>
> That's like saying that the trails aren't going to be cleaned up
> because the majority of the people who drive offroad dont' really
> know or care about our lands....... etc. etc.
>
> Your statements are just the kind of statements we as an offroad
> community loathe. I like to go to places other than a range to
shoot.
> I pick up my brass and others brass and I pack out what I brough in
> so I am pretty offended by your one-sided statements.
>
>
> First off most of the trash out there is DUMPED by scumbags who
have
> no concern for teh enviroment or lae not brought by the shooters
> albiet it is the irresposible shooters are the ones putting holes
in
> every TV, Refrigerator, etc that they find out there but how many
> times have we driven by this stuff and left it there as well.
>
> There are MANY groups that use the desert, shooters, OHV'ers,
hikers,
> campers, geocachersm etc. I think before we make commenst like the
> ones I am seeing we contact the organized groups of shooters,
> OHV'ers, Geocachers etc that care JUST AS MUCH AS WE DO about
taking
> care of the areas we all SHARE and work WITH them to clean these
> areas up instead of cleaning them up ourselves so we can garner
> the "we did it and you didn't" glory which only alienates the
> different groups all together which is what the Ant-recreationists
> want....... if we join forces we are more powerful than if we work
as
> seperate entities.
>
> -- Eric
> - Jeeper, OHVer, Shooter, Mountain Biker, Hiker, Camper,
> Recreationist.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., chaton602@a... wrote:
> > Well, leaving it for the shooters to clean up isn't going to
> happen, only
> > because the majority of people out there who shoot in other than
a
> range,
> > don't really know or care about our lands and what's ahead for
them
> (as far
> > as usage) in the future. If an area is used for target practice
and
> brass is
> > what seems to be your momentary soil, then the majority of field
> shooters are
> > going to leave their brass where it falls. Personally (and this
is
> just my
> > opinion), I believe designated shooting ranges are the only
places
> we should
> > shoot (unless of course your out hunting). all in all, cleaning
up
> these
> > areas would be great. Maybe when these irresponsible trash hogs
and
> brass
> > bombers see that these areas are clean, it'll help promote to
> maintain the
> > grounds that they stand on....
>
>
>
>
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68873 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:46pm
Subject: Re: Spook Rally
I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and I
had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I am
definitely going again next year.:)
Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
putting this event on.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family
in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in
Crown King. <grin>
>
> Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> -Jeep Polo
> -Lab Tech
>
> So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
>
>
>
> Neal Han****,
> Arizona Rock Crawlers
68874 From: James Towle <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 4:58pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter any
official information on it, from Tera.
Did I miss something?
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> Anyone got a price yet?
>
> Lachlan
68875 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:04pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
You and I have *BOTH* probably missed something! LOL! I
haven't heard that it's out yet, but I haven't been listening for it,
either. That's why I was wondering. Oh, to be able to shove that
four banger a few inches forward to fit a crawler box...
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter
any
> official information on it, from Tera.
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone got a price yet?
> >
> > Lachlan
68876 From: Dan Coley <crawlintj@y...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:05pm
Subject: Re: Price on Tera's crawler box?
Asked them when I worked at DR about 4 months ago, and they said it
was min. 6 months out.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I haven't seen where it has been released yet, or for that matter
any
> official information on it, from Tera.
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepindog" <jeepindog@y...> wrote:
> > Anyone got a price yet?
> >
> > Lachlan
68877 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:28pm
Subject: Re: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
Sharky
68878 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:31pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Easy now Woody :)
Hows the rig doing?...oh and hows the tree too? :)
Sharky
68879 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:35pm
Subject: [FS] bought a tow rig have some extras I do not need
Price:
Contact: hackle@qwest.net
RBW Industries 5th Wheel hitch 15K includes sliders and all hardware except 4 weld on brackets to the frame (as they are welded on my truck). $250.00
5th Wheel V-tool box diamond plate Ford Super duty $250
50 Gal Diesel reserve tank bed mount will include all plumbing and pump. $150.00
I just bought this truck and have not even removed this stuff yet. Thought I would see if anyone in the group was looking for any of these itmes. All are out of a Ford super Duty although I doubt it matters for most of it. Thanks Jim F.
- Jim Florence
Jim Florence
68880 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
I had fun as well.
It was good spending time with family and friends.
It definitely was an exciting weekend for people named "John"...
but I'll let them tell their stories if so inclined.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Spook Rally
> I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and I
> had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
> Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
> over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
> fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I am
> definitely going again next year.:)
>
> Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
> putting this event on.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> > Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
> Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
> left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my family
> in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
> trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
> Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up in
> Crown King. <grin>
> >
> > Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> > -Jeep Polo
> > -Lab Tech
> >
> > So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neal Han****,
> > Arizona Rock Crawlers
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
68881 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:42pm
Subject: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
Cmon Sharky you know a ramp doesnt measure true flex. Now if you made
two ramps and drove the drivers front and passenger rear at the same
time, that would be a good measurement I think. So whats yours:)
Scott Maiden
PS Dont make me tell them what I heard on the radio;P LOL
--- In az_vjc@y..., sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
>
> Sharky
68882 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:43pm
Subject: RE: Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
I think flex is important also. What was your RTI at the BarBQ Sharky?? :)
Jim F.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 6:29 PM
To: bermboy@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: I am glad I own a YJ!!!!
It matters alot when you are talking about flex.
Sharky
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68883 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Spook Rally
Bwahahaha! You are evil Bill:)
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...> wrote:
> I had fun as well.
> It was good spending time with family and friends.
> It definitely was an exciting weekend for people named "John"...
> but I'll let them tell their stories if so inclined.
>
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:46 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Spook Rally
>
>
> > I agree, it was a huge blast, this was my first rally as well and
I
> > had a great time!! Thanks to Neal for helping me get second in the
> > Jeep Polo:) It is a bit tough to win though, I was only .157 miles
> > over what the actual mileage was supposed to be and ended up with
> > fifth or sixth, the first three actually all had it right on!! I
am
> > definitely going again next year.:)
> >
> > Thanks to Nasser, Chris V. and all the ARR for their hard work in
> > putting this event on.
> >
> > Scott Maiden
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., <gotrox@c...> wrote:
> > > Spook was a blast! Thanks to Nasser and his fellow Arizona Rough
> > Riders. Even with the ominous clouds and torrential down pours we
> > left at 6:42. It was the most fun I think I have had with my
family
> > in one evening. We got scared out of our skin, lost (once) and
> > trivial challenged with the clue sheets. Good thing my wife has a
> > Masters and great navigational skills, or we might have ended up
in
> > Crown King. <grin>
> > >
> > > Also they had jeep games Saturday afternoon. ,
> > > -Jeep Polo
> > > -Lab Tech
> > >
> > > So if you have never done the rally, you should it is a great
time.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neal Han****,
> > > Arizona Rock Crawlers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
68884 From: <AJEEPGIRLINAZ@A...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
I will tell if John is 'not so inclined'...... :)
68885 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 0:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: Spook Rally
The Spook Rally was by far one of the best 4x4 events I have ever been too. Its nice to see a club who can run a show as complicated as this was and do it well. Many, many thanks got the Arizona Rough Riders and some of the sponsering clubs that helped. (forgive me for not remembering). Alot ofextra hard work went into this that many will never know. Great Show! Will be back for sure next year.
It was also nice to get a chance to hang out with some other AZVJC'ers. Scott Maiden, Bill Mish, and Neal Han****. (Interesting crowd, I assure you. Learned some new words from them..) I saw some other AZ stickers too, Allison (I think) with the Maroon TJ and a gold Cherokee (2001) which belongs to Jack.
Thanks to all again, had a blast....
Best Regards...
John K
As far as my "exciting weekend" goes.. well ya should have been there....
68886 From: Jon Loveless-DSL <jloveless@d...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 5:53pm
Subject: children
Now, children& (and if you don't think you are children, read the last 50 or so posts&jeez. Let's just go clean up the mess and stop blaming)
Jon Loveless
480-816-0963
jloveless@directvinternet.com
jloveless@delphi-tech.com
68887 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 6:08pm
Subject: Is Flex Over-Rated?
Assuming locked axles.
Does it really matter if:
A wheel is hanging in the air because the axle will not articulate:
Or that same wheel is falling down to the rock under it with only the axle's own weight to provide a basis for traction and push.
This is a serious question. I drive a CJ that could win the stiffest jeep of the club award. I wonder what the difference is between a wheel in the air and a wheel drooping to the ground when the wheel in the air will not spin?
Someone please tell me if flex is more than just cool.
TIA
John Visic
68888 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sun Oct 27, 2002 6:01pm
Subject: Anyone have an NV4500 For Sale?
Hi Gang,
I'll be purchasing an NV4500 sometime in the next few days (most likely
through 4 wheeler's supply, I'm waiting on a final quote) unless someone on
the group happens to have a new or used one for sale.
If you have one for sale... give me a call (602) 524-7632 and leave me a
message. I'll be out of town all next week on business travel and won't be
able to check my email.
Kind Regards,
Joe West