View Full Version : is this a good compressor?
Duality
01-23-2008, 02:54 PM
I like the price.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11196210&search=compressor&Mo=9&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=compressor&Ntt=compressor&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
jpotts
01-23-2008, 02:58 PM
I like the price.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11196210&search=compressor&Mo=9&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=compressor&Ntt=compressor&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
I have one. It works. It has filled up a lot of tires....slowly.
At one point i was "shotgunning" compressors between this one and my ARB. Even though I knew I could damage my ARB, I was so impatient with only using this one that I risked it. I've since gone to CO2, but carry this one as a backup.
mingoglia
01-23-2008, 02:58 PM
I like the price.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11196210&search=compressor&Mo=9&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=compressor&Ntt=compressor&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
With costco you can always take it back.... I couldn't imagine it being any better (and by the size probably slightly worse) than the pep boys compressor that in the past has gone on sale for about the same price...
Mike
jperez
01-23-2008, 02:59 PM
what is the price for CO2????
sorry to hijack your thread !
mingoglia
01-23-2008, 03:03 PM
what is the price for CO2????
sorry to hijack your thread !
I recently paid $239 for a brand new "The Source" 20lb tank, with a nice bracket, chuck, hose, and a couple of stickers that ultimately hit the trash. ;) Although the regulator will probably not flow as well as the Powertanks and perhaps freeze up easier there's zero way I'd ever spend the type of coin they demand.
Mike
Duality
01-23-2008, 03:03 PM
what is the price for CO2????
sorry to hijack your thread !
no hijack, this was my next question.
terron gregg
01-23-2008, 03:05 PM
i just replaced my harbor freight compressor paid a little more but it has a lifetime warranty when something brakes i just take it to any of the stores to replace it
over's tj
01-23-2008, 03:15 PM
I bought a portable compressor a year ago from Costco for about $50, its called Q max masterflow, its a generic brand I have seen elseware for a little more money, I've seen a few people out on the trail use them (thats how I found it)
that one looks like a similer one, I tried just recently to get another Q max to keep in my Dodge Ram and they don't have it anymore, the Q max one is quick and pretty good quality for a cheapo and its built well with alot of metal
just avoid the ones made of alot of plastic from parts stores
I to have an ARB comp. and use this to save wear and tear, a Co2 tank would be nice, but that type of cash is beter spent on my suspension for now
Billy 4 hp
01-24-2008, 01:04 AM
I recently paid $239 for a brand new "The Source" 20lb tank, with a nice bracket, chuck, hose, and a couple of stickers that ultimately hit the trash. ;) Although the regulator will probably not flow as well as the Powertanks and perhaps freeze up easier there's zero way I'd ever spend the type of coin they demand.
Mike
X2 and FYI I have used my "The Source" w/ a IR 1/2 impact and never froze the regulator.
FourxDad
01-24-2008, 04:51 AM
I have a Cadillac OBA from thier air ride suspension system. Its rated to be under the hood, Mercury and other have compressors too. What can i say it was free.
Wayco
01-24-2008, 06:13 AM
I bought a portable compressor a year ago from Costco for about $50, its called Q max masterflow, its a generic brand I have seen elseware for a little more money, I've seen a few people out on the trail use them (thats how I found it)
that one looks like a similer one, I tried just recently to get another Q max to keep in my Dodge Ram and they don't have it anymore, the Q max one is quick and pretty good quality for a cheapo and its built well with alot of metal
just avoid the ones made of alot of plastic from parts stores
I to have an ARB comp. and use this to save wear and tear, a Co2 tank would be nice, but that type of cash is beter spent on my suspension for now
This one is much better than the one you are looking at Duality. I have several for my vehicles. Last month, they were still available at Costco, you might need to look around for them. If it says "light duty" or for cars, it won't make you happy filling up Jeep tires, even if they are only 31's.
I'm going to Costco today at the 99th ave. and McDowell store, I will look and see if they are still there.
Now that I'm filling 35's, I use CO2. A lot faster and if you look around, you can find them at a reasonable price. Just don't go cheap with the hose, I had a cheap yellow coiled hose explode and without eye protection, it would have been BAD! Luckily, it only cost me a $100 pair of Oakleys.
ArizonaSunshine
01-24-2008, 06:39 AM
Is this one any good? This one's at Sam's Club
Master Flow MV45 Cordless Air Compressor
Delivery: $58.88
#987355
When you need the right tool to get the job done, choose the Master Flow MV45 air compressor. Master Flow air compressors are tools, not toys. The EZ-Twist Inflator makes this unit so easy to use that there is no excuse to not have perfect tire pressure at all times. This unit is two tools in one: a powerful air compressor perfect for home, car and light trucks, coupled with a handy, 1,000 candle power searchlight.
Inflates a car tire in under 3:30 minutes
Cubic Inches per Minute: 2,200
1,000 candle power searchlight
14 max amps
Unit Weight: 6 lbs.
10 ft. power cord with cigarette lighter adapter
Interchangeable battery
16 ft. coil hose
EZ-Twist Inflator
3 adapter nozzles for sports balls and inflatables
Nylon carry bag
Antman
01-24-2008, 07:14 AM
I have both the MV50 from Pep Boys and the chrome one that is similiar from
Harbor Freight and the HF one is fastest and has lasted the longest. I usually
use it on two tire while I use co2 on the others. Its mounted in my jeep. I think
I have some pictures on my other computer, (I'm on my laptop right now.), I'll
try to find and post later.
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4569&d=1141513107
or see the thread at:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=12123
ShmUDE
01-24-2008, 07:20 AM
i have a HF one i'll part with. The hose broke on me and i just pieced together a co2 system http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/shmude/P1220254.jpg
was well under 200 bucks. Got the tank full from a local welding shop, the regulator from phoenix welding supply in mesa.
joedokes28
01-24-2008, 07:28 AM
I'd spend the extra money on CO2. You can run air tools and I can inflate one of my 35's from 12 to 40 psi in about a minute.
Here's the regulator I have, there are cheaper ones, but this one will not freeze.
$140
http://www.offroadairstore.com/catalog/oa-hyperflomax_web_thumb.jpg
$50
http://www.offroadairstore.com/catalog/hyperflo_web.jpg
The reg above are from The Source. http://www.offroadairstore.com/servlet/StoreFront
The $50 is fixed at 150 psi so not good for air tools.
In addition to a regulator, you will also need a tank. I run 20lb, but 10 is also good. Tanks range any where from free (if you are creative :D ), to about $75.
Antman
01-24-2008, 07:39 AM
I like co2, but have the air compressor for when the co2 runs out. I have a 90 #
regulator on mine and use it for air tools. I just blew up my inverter, so need to
find another 1kw inverter soon.
I like the co2, and have about about a hundred dollars in my 20 # tank and reg.
mingoglia
01-24-2008, 07:52 AM
X2 and FYI I have used my "The Source" w/ a IR 1/2 impact and never froze the regulator.
I too have a IR (2131) impact (and the 3/8" version as well). The great thing about a nice impact is they use very little "air" when in use. I can take all 20 of my lugs off the Jeep with my small pancake compressor and the compressor will kick on on the very last lug.... because of this there's zero likelihood of this impact freezing the regulator.
Mike
Andrew F
01-24-2008, 08:10 AM
I'd spend the extra money on CO2. You can run air tools and I can inflate one of my 35's from 12 to 40 psi in about a minute.
Here's the regulator I have, there are cheaper ones, but this one will not freeze.
$140
http://www.offroadairstore.com/catalog/oa-hyperflomax_web_thumb.jpg
$50
http://www.offroadairstore.com/catalog/hyperflo_web.jpg
The reg above are from The Source. http://www.offroadairstore.com/servlet/StoreFront
The $50 is fixed at 150 psi so not good for air tools.
In addition to a regulator, you will also need a tank. I run 20lb, but 10 is also good. Tanks range any where from free (if you are creative :D ), to about $75.
Just buy this chead regulator and pick up a 10lbs steel tank from a welding shop. Don't buy an aluminum tank, it's a hassle to find a place that fills while you wait. You can exchange the steel tank at a lot more welding shops than finding one that fills while you wait. FlexyXJ even told me this, but I choose not to listen and now wish I did.
Varkyl
01-24-2008, 08:31 AM
Just buy this chead regulator and pick up a 10lbs steel tank from a welding shop. Don't buy an aluminum tank, it's a hassle to find a place that fills while you wait. You can exchange the steel tank at a lot more welding shops than finding one that fills while you wait. FlexyXJ even told me this, but I choose not to listen and now wish I did.
Ramsey Welding Supply at 6805 N 55th ave in glendale fills while you wait.
I also use my CO2 to run my impacts (both 1/2" and 3/8") I bought my CO2 setup from PolyPerformance. And the reg will freeze when using the impacts but it doesn't clog. I have also noticed that people that have the PowerTank rigs are able to fill faster than my setup.
KennethS
01-24-2008, 08:45 AM
I like the price.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11196210&search=compressor&Mo=9&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-US&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&Sp=S&N=5000043&whse=BC&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BC&Ne=4000000&D=compressor&Ntt=compressor&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1
That compressor has a max flow of 1.05 CFM. As was said, it will be s l o w.
Is this one any good? This one's at Sam's Club
Master Flow MV45 Cordless Air Compressor
Delivery: $58.88
#987355
When you need the right tool to get the job done, choose the Master Flow MV45 air compressor. Master Flow air compressors are tools, not toys. The EZ-Twist Inflator makes this unit so easy to use that there is no excuse to not have perfect tire pressure at all times. This unit is two tools in one: a powerful air compressor perfect for home, car and light trucks, coupled with a handy, 1,000 candle power searchlight.
Inflates a car tire in under 3:30 minutes
Cubic Inches per Minute: 2,200
1,000 candle power searchlight
14 max amps
Unit Weight: 6 lbs.
10 ft. power cord with cigarette lighter adapter
Interchangeable battery
16 ft. coil hose
EZ-Twist Inflator
3 adapter nozzles for sports balls and inflatables
Nylon carry bag
2,200 cubic inches per minute translates to 1.27 CFM. A bit faster than the first one, but still s l o w.
I have both the MV50 from Pep Boys and the chrome one that is similiar from Harbor Freight and the HF one is fastest and has lasted the longest.
From what I remember, the MV-50 / MF-50 from Pep Boys, Costco, etc. and the HF compressor have somewhere around 2.5 CFM flow rate. So they are double the flow rate of the first two compressors, but at about the same price.
I tested my MF-50 and it would fill a 32x11.50 from 5 spi to 30 psi in around 3.5 minutes.
Duality
01-24-2008, 09:04 AM
hmm. Lots of awesome advice here. I knew I could count on you guys.
I don't know if I want to do CO2 with my schedule, it'd be a real PITA to go get it refilled all the damn time. At least with a decent compressor, all I have to do is plug it in. I'd rather spend an extra 10 minutes every time I air up, than to spend an extra hour every time I have to have the tank filled. JMO
Either way, that compressor is crappy, and I'll need to find another.
Antman
01-24-2008, 09:35 AM
That compressor has a max flow of 1.05 CFM. As was said, it will be s l o w.
2,200 cubic inches per minute translates to 1.27 CFM. A bit faster than the first one, but still s l o w.
From what I remember, the MV-50 / MF-50 from Pep Boys, Costco, etc. and the HF compressor have somewhere around 2.5 CFM flow rate. So they are double the flow rate of the first two compressors, but at about the same price.
I tested my MF-50 and it would fill a 32x11.50 from 5 spi to 30 psi in around 3.5 minutes.
Good info Kenneth! :sifone:
Xiled1
01-24-2008, 11:48 AM
Duality,
The MV-50 is the one I lent you at Sunflower. Good compressor and Good price. If you pick it up, you should check out the writeup on jeepforum.com and make the recommended mods. Makes filling up quicker. PM me and I'll give you a link. If you don't find it at Costco, check out Pep Boys.
Andrew F
01-24-2008, 11:52 AM
Ramsey Welding Supply at 6805 N 55th ave in glendale fills while you wait.
I also use my CO2 to run my impacts (both 1/2" and 3/8") I bought my CO2 setup from PolyPerformance. And the reg will freeze when using the impacts but it doesn't clog. I have also noticed that people that have the PowerTank rigs are able to fill faster than my setup.
That's where I get it filled. However, I have to go out of my way to do it and I normally drive right by a couple other shops that don't fill while you wait.
KennethS
01-24-2008, 12:16 PM
Duality,
The MV-50 is the one I lent you at Sunflower. Good compressor and Good price. If you pick it up, you should check out the writeup on jeepforum.com and make the recommended mods. Makes filling up quicker. PM me and I'll give you a link. If you don't find it at Costco, check out Pep Boys.
Can you send me that link, too? I am very interested in that mod.
I've got 75 dollars in my setup. I bought a tank to start with and already had a regulator. I use N2, however, and just swap tanks. I've got a great account with Praxair and my tank swaps run me ~$14. You will get more fills out of a CO2 tank, but I prefer my home brew on N2 over CO2. I also like that the regulator won't freeze and the tank doesn't have to move from being stored on its side. That said, my York 209 is just sitting there, waiting to be installed......
AZdezertgirl
01-24-2008, 01:03 PM
I bought a portable compressor a year ago from Costco for about $50, its called Q max masterflow, its a generic brand I have seen elseware for a little more money, I've seen a few people out on the trail use them (thats how I found it)
that one looks like a similer one, I tried just recently to get another Q max to keep in my Dodge Ram and they don't have it anymore, the Q max one is quick and pretty good quality for a cheapo and its built well with alot of metal
just avoid the ones made of alot of plastic from parts stores
I to have an ARB comp. and use this to save wear and tear, a Co2 tank would be nice, but that type of cash is beter spent on my suspension for now
I work in merchandising at the Glendale Costco. We have these in stock right now. I thought they were around $60.00?? but it is the Qmax brand. The Glendale Costco is on the East side of the 101 by Arrowhead mall off 83rd Avenue North of Bell Rd.
:)
JeepTJ98
01-24-2008, 01:10 PM
Wow Kelli, if that isn't a plug for Costco...lol
AZdezertgirl
01-24-2008, 01:12 PM
Hi Honey!
Fire Ball
01-24-2008, 01:19 PM
I have run a couple combinations of air compressors and air tanks in my rig and have settled on CO2. I got the tank for like $50 and the regulator for $60. It is a 20# tank and I have been wheeling 5 times and still have plenty of CO2. I fill from 8# to 20# on my 33's and I think I still have about 1/2 tank or more left.
The regulator frosts up a little on the out side but has never frozen up on me.
Tire inflation is quick. I can do all 4 tires in the time it used to take me to do one. :)
Wayco
01-24-2008, 01:39 PM
Just got back from the local Costco, (99th & McDowell) they have the Master Flow Q-max in stock. I bought an extra one for $48.99. If you want this one Duality, I will bring it with me to the Superbowl run.
I have used these compressors for several years until I upgraded to 35's and they work better than most $100+ compressors. I still have one hard wired into Hyjak, for when my Co2 runs out. Both of my other trucks have them. I think I sold one to somebody today at Costco! They are the same design as the MV-50.
If there is a way to modify them for better performance Xiled1, I would also like a link to the write-up.
joedokes28
01-24-2008, 01:51 PM
hmm. Lots of awesome advice here. I knew I could count on you guys.
I don't know if I want to do CO2 with my schedule, it'd be a real PITA to go get it refilled all the damn time. At least with a decent compressor, all I have to do is plug it in. I'd rather spend an extra 10 minutes every time I air up, than to spend an extra hour every time I have to have the tank filled. JMO
Either way, that compressor is crappy, and I'll need to find another.
That's the thing, with your tires, a #20 co2 will last for ever. You could get at least 20 air ups out of it before it needed top be filled.
Anyway, can you post the link for the compressor mods. I may pick one of these up for another use.
mingoglia
01-24-2008, 02:05 PM
hmm. Lots of awesome advice here. I knew I could count on you guys.
I don't know if I want to do CO2 with my schedule, it'd be a real PITA to go get it refilled all the damn time. At least with a decent compressor, all I have to do is plug it in. I'd rather spend an extra 10 minutes every time I air up, than to spend an extra hour every time I have to have the tank filled. JMO
Either way, that compressor is crappy, and I'll need to find another.
I of course don't know your schedule but for me it's not too bad to just drop it off at 8am Saturday morning and pick it up a few hours later (from Phoenix welding). They usually do their fills (at least in the Mesa store) around 11am or so on Saturday. Honestly even if they did it while I wait I'd still prefer to come back as I'm pretty impatient and wouldn't want to wait around. I like backing up to the ramp, the guy grabbing it, putting my name on a tag, then sending me on my way. I've only done this twice though as I haven't been carrying CO2 in the Jeep for long... the other times I've been there I've just exchanged c25 tanks used for welding.
I thought about just doing the exchange for steel co2 tanks as this is what I've been doing with welding tanks. I just didn't want the extra weight of a steel tank in the back of the Jeep so I went with the aluminum route that can't be exchanged.
Wayco
01-24-2008, 02:21 PM
Even if you go to Co2 later, it's a good idea to have a backup compressor for when you run out of Co2. The Q-Max isn't a cheap plastic gadget that plugs into the cigarette lighter, it uses 28 amps. while running, and requires a direct connection to the battery, either with the supplied clamps, or hard wiring like I did.
Markos
01-24-2008, 02:30 PM
FYI, about the bursting air hoses...
As most mentioned, the plastic yellow HF/Ace hoses will burst after a while, whether running cold CO2 or Hot O2. You can pick up a nice coiled 'durathane' hose from powertank for $40.
I stopped by harbor freight and picked up a 25' framers hose for $9.99. It's much more flexible than the coiled hose, and has swivel ends. It's actually much easier to work with compared to the coil hose. I found myself tipping over the tank while pulling in the short coil hose. Also, If you look the orange framers hose, it has the nylon weave in it. It looks to be much more durable, but time will tell. I've aired up 8 tires with it so far, without issue. It has a max pressure of 250PSI. Although it looks large in the pic, it's actually less bulky than the coiled hose. I wrap it around the CO2 handle, and it fits nicely inside my tank bag (camping chair bag).
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93300-93399/93336.gif
mingoglia
01-24-2008, 02:33 PM
FYI, about the air hose.
As most mentioned, the plastic yellow HF/Ace hoses will burst after a while, whether running cold CO2 or Hot O2. You can pick up a nice coiled 'durathane' hose from powertank for $40.
I stopped by harbor freight and picked up a 25' framers hose for $9.99. It's much more flexible than the coiled hose, and has swivel ends. If you look at it, it has the nylon weave in it as well. It looks to be much more durable, but time will tell. I've aired up 8 tires with it so far, without issue. It has a max pressure of 250PSI. Although it looks large in the pic, it's actually less bulky than the coiled hose. I wrap it around the CO2 handle, and it fits nicely inside my tank bag (camping chair bag).
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/93300-93399/93336.gif
...and in case it's not clear for you new to CO2 guys the reason why the hose is so important is because when the liquid CO2 turns into a gas (well technically it's probably already a gas depending on the ambient temperature but that's a different discussion) it's holy crap cold. Think about how cold it probably is, then multiply that by 5. Ever hold a can of canned air upside down? Yeah, it's cold. This of course makes the average Walmart yellow coild hose brittle and break after the first use. :aagh:
Mike
Xiled1
01-24-2008, 04:02 PM
Here is the link:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378082
It does not make it air up any faster, just easier, sorry for the confusion. When you swap out the existing gauge with one that does not go as high, its actually accurate. Just turn off the compressor to check the pressure, no removing the hose. Also, the wiring fixes are important so that it lasts a long time. Lots of stray wires in mine that could have shorted out. Would suck out on the trail. The info is pretty spread out thru the posts so you will have to dig a little. There are some good discussions on replacing the hose, but I have been OK so far with the one it came with. Its also a good comparison between the Harbor Freight and the Costco.
Fire Ball
01-24-2008, 06:14 PM
Dry ice is about -110 degrees F. Dry ice at atmospheric pressure will not melt but it evaporates or sublimates. It goes from a solid to a gas directly. Liquid CO2 at atmospheric temps is around 800 psi. The boiling point of CO2 at atmospheric pressure is about -71 degrees F. That is why your lines frost up when you start using the CO2.
If you touch your skin to dry ice it can cause localized frost bite but nothing too serious. Getting liquid CO2 on you can be more dangerous since it takes more heat to boil the liquid than it does to turn the solid to a gas, so liquid CO2 can cause more tissue damage. The liquid will also cover more surface area.
So what was the question again ? :D
over's tj
01-24-2008, 07:17 PM
I work in merchandising at the Glendale Costco. We have these in stock right now. I thought they were around $60.00?? but it is the Qmax brand. The Glendale Costco is on the East side of the 101 by Arrowhead mall off 83rd Avenue North of Bell Rd.
:)
Hey, Thanks
I had gone to the SD store and checked on line and did not see them, I will check other stores...
I have the box in front of me for the Q-MAXX Master Flow, it's made in china, part#MF1052 and I think I paid 49.99 a little over a year ago
AZdezertgirl
01-25-2008, 08:38 AM
Hey, Thanks
I had gone to the SD store and checked on line and did not see them, I will check other stores...
I have the box in front of me for the Q-MAXX Master Flow, it's made in china, part#MF1052 and I think I paid 40.99 a little over a year ago
Im off work today. I will get more info on it tomorrow and PM you. :)
rokndaz
01-25-2008, 02:54 PM
I have a viair 400 portable and think it works well, but the guage is way off ($300)
Antman
01-25-2008, 03:21 PM
Is this one any good? This one's at Sam's Club
Master Flow MV45 Cordless Air Compressor
Delivery: $58.88
#987355
When you need the right tool to get the job done, choose the Master Flow MV45 air compressor. Master Flow air compressors are tools, not toys. The EZ-Twist Inflator makes this unit so easy to use that there is no excuse to not have perfect tire pressure at all times. This unit is two tools in one: a powerful air compressor perfect for home, car and light trucks, coupled with a handy, 1,000 candle power searchlight.
Inflates a car tire in under 3:30 minutes
Cubic Inches per Minute: 2,200
1,000 candle power searchlight
14 max amps
Unit Weight: 6 lbs.
10 ft. power cord with cigarette lighter adapter
Interchangeable battery
16 ft. coil hose
EZ-Twist Inflator
3 adapter nozzles for sports balls and inflatables
Nylon carry bag
This one is 14 amps max. the MV50 is 30 amps and has to be hooked up to the battery or a 30 amp circuit and has around 2.4 cfm.
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