So, I busted my 11 yr old looking at porn

[chopped7]

I was doing my usual internet rounds last night before I went to work and found a new website in the drop down menu on the search bar. It looked very familiar from my younger days of porn surfing in my 20's on my 486DX. Sublime.com. I had to click on it to verify and sure enough, the majority of the site is T&A. I have busted him before checking out a bewbie website with one of his buddies. When that happened I gave him "the talk" a father has with his son when he transitions from a child to a young man although at 11, I thought it was a little premature. I basically told him NOT TO LOOK AT THAT STUFF ON MY COMPUTER (even though it's his computer because mine died so I comandeered his). I don't really have a problem with him looking at naked girls at his age. I know when I was that age, a couple of my buddies dads had boxes of Playboys and Hustlers we would check out. A couple guys even knew where their parents kept "The Devil and Miss Jones" hidden.

I really don't have a problem with him looking at naked girl media but, with what's available on the internet, I don't think it's very healthy for a kid to see a girl spit a football out of her vageegee either(as entertaining as I think it may be). I really don't want to put parental controls on the internet access at my house. I would much rather my son chooses not to go to the websites he knows not to look at here.

I think it's great that my son knows his way around ms windows and the internet at 11 but there are downsides also. He's a good kid and very intelligent. I'm confident the porn incidents are his buddies saying "go to this site" when they're over at our house. They're all the same age though. Parenting these days is much harder than it was when I was a kid. Thanks to Hannah Montana and Zowie 101, I have an 8 yr old daughter that thinks she's 15. I wish they would just stop growing at about 5 and stay there. I miss those innocent days.

Has anyone else had cyber incidents with their older kids? I can't be the only one. Can I?

[terron gregg]

I think it's great that my son knows his way around ms windows and the internet at 11 but there are downsides also. He's a good kid and very intelligent. I'm confident the porn incidents are his buddies saying "go to this site" when they're over at our house. They're all the same age though.

dont give him that much credit we were all 11 year olds at one point and time except for the women i rember when my little brother got caught looking at porn on my moms comp i think he was about the same age

[Duality]

I don't think it's very healthy for a kid to see a girl spit a football out of her vageegee

omg... hahahahahahhahah thats the funniest thing ive ever read.

hope you get the kid under control, but wow, funny.

[mingoglia]

I feel for you. My kids are 4 and 3 so I'm not in your shoes yet. I feel the same as you that if my son was the age of yours a few boobs here and there in no big deal. But as you said, the days of sneaking a few "tasteful" Playboy's and looking at airbrushed softcore pics is a lot different than the stuff you can easily and quickly find on the Internet today. Unfortunately I don't know what I'd do if (and ultimately when) I'm in your shoes but I'm curious to what others that may have kids of similar age have to say.

On edit:
Back when we were that age the media that we were potentially subjected to (ie by sneaking into dad's end table) were what dad looked at. Hopefully as dad it wasn't of the football shooting variety. So you could only corrupt your kids as corrupt as you were. Hopefully his friends parents weren't super freaks because your kid could be subjected to that as well. Typically this "football variety" stuff wasn't widely distributed as you had to be a somewhat legitimate company to pay for distribution of such material... not to mention adult shops had to carry the material as well. With the Internet anyone can post any fetish they want on the internet... so not only is your kid open to the media that dad has and his friends dad's have but he's open to the garbage that every freak in the world may have.

FWIW I've seen some pretty freaky crap on the Internet... I'm no angel by any means... but I'd prefer if my son started out sneaking playboy's like the rest of us instead of being subjected to the freaky crazy crap off the bat. LOL. ;) I don't want my son to think that golden showers is normal.... yes guys, golden showers is NOT normal. :)

Mike

[jperez]

http://www.pcmech.com/article/what-do-your-kids-do-online/

Golden showers!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

[AZdezertgirl]

My son is 11 also. If I saw him looking up porn on the net I would have a BIG PROBLEM with it! I would ground him for at least a month and would certainly use parental controls if I let him back on. I know that some parents are more leniant but I have heard of thing that they are doing now on those porn sites and its ... I HAVE NO WORDS FOR IT.. and you thinking a girl spitting a football out of her...is entertaining?? Dont you have a daughter?

What about these boys in your house with your son looking at that crap with your 8 year old daughter in the house?? Id be freaking out if I were you! Boys seeing those sort of things make minds race. and I wouldnt trust one of em around your daughter.. especially if they are hunting for it.

Not making a big deal out of it now.. will only let your son think that you will be ok with other things (that are a big deal) in the future.


I dont even let my son watch COPS.. He knows there are sick perverted idiots in the world because we talk about that sort of thing. but i dont need him seeing a bunch of drunk, stoned idiots on TV and people laughing at them like they are humorous. I want my son to see drunken, stoned idiots as what they are.. Drunken stoned LOSERS! not someone to laugh at and make fun of but to look at and feel sorry for. so he doesnt think acting that way in the future when drugs and alcohol are present will get him attention. I also dont let my son watch all these movies that are completely related to people getting high and drunk and its supposed to be comical?? How is someone who has devoted thier life to dropping out of school and getting high and drunk everyday comical? uhmmm OK?? Like that movie loathing in Las Vegas? That whole Movie is about two guys in Vegas getting high on acid.. THE WHOLE MOVIE! its ridiculous!

Getting a glimpse of the 5 oclock news everyday is enough of a wake up call for him.

Im lucky that he is into his runescape computer game and that the computer is in plain view of everyone in the household which makes it hard for him to be looking at anything inappropriate.

[chopped7]

Just to clarify, a dude at work showed me the football thing to me on his phone. My 11 yr old hasn't seen it but it's on the internet somewhere. I hope he doesn't run across it and think it's normal to shove a football behind the meat curtains and think it's normal?????

I'm not really worried about the kid. I just wanted to share the experience of parenting in the digital age for those with younger kids that will grow up with computers and wireless internet in their room. Beware!

[John_P]

Funny this has been posted as my sister's daughter recently was busted being curious.

Your son is 11...coming up on puberty very quickly (so is my niece). There is no coincidence here...both of these kids are coming up on some very major changes in their bodies that signal a new transition into sexual maturity. With these physical changes come psychological changes as well.

My suggestion to my sister was this...Talk is cheap when the internet easily opens up a whole different world to them. I told her to have "the talk", which you have had, but I added a twist...

I told her to have a three part talk...physical maturity, sexual reproduction, STD's. The kick is that with each talk you use the internet to show the other side of nudity and sex...the more "real" side...

Has your son seen pictures of developing fetus?
Has your son ever seen a woman give birth?
Has your son ever seen pictures of genital herpes?
An AIDS patient?

This is not meant to scare, but rather to educate. I think it also takes the curiosity and really gets at the consequences of behavior they will contemplate in the next 5-6 years. Finally, I believe it says to her daughter or maybe your son, you can come to me and we can explore these questions together.

Hope that helps.

[AZdezertgirl]

Funny this has been posted as my sister's daughter recently was busted being curious.

Your son is 11...coming on puberty very quickly (so is my niece). There is no coincidence here...both of these kids are coming up on some very major changes in their bodies that signal a new transition into sexual maturity. With these physical changes come psychological changes as well.

My suggestion to my sister was this...Talk is cheap when the internet easily opens up a whole different world to them. I told her to have "the talk", which you have had, but I added a twist...

I told her to have a three part talk...physical maturity, sexual reproduction, STD's. The kick is that with each talk you use the internet to show the other side of nudity and sex...the more "real" side...

Has your son ever seen a woman give birth?
Has your son ever seen pictures of genital herpes?
An AIDS patient?

This is not meant to scare, but rather to educate. I think it also takes the curiosity and really gets at the consequences of behavior they will contemplate in the next 5-6 years.

Hope that helps.


Thats some good advice.. :)

[jperez]

X2 on that!

[GRUNT]

I agree that kids are being subjected to more and more at younger ages. I recently became aware of what "drizzle" the Disney Channel puts out. I have since limited his viewing to even more than I usually do. He gets one disney show a day. The rest of the time it has to be outside play or one of the Discovery Channels. Seems to be improving his dimeanor(sp?).

I first started looking at my mom's cosmopolitans, then we moved on the our friends Playboys. Saw my first porn in 8th grade... Ugghhh. A gradual transition. I would be uncomfortable if my 10 year old boy saw what is on the internet. I definitely will not be letting my gbaby girl do anything/leave the house til she is 18... :)

x3 on John P

[mingoglia]

I also agree with you John. I'm all for education and rather slam the door and say no educate on the consequences of what could happen. May scare them straight. I know when I was in high school (I'm 32 Saturday) seeing the movie Philadelphia which came out when I was in high school scared the crap out of me and I haven't had unprotected "relations" with anyone other than my wife since then.... and Sherri and I were dating a good solid year before I went there... and much of it was probably because of that movie. The other part of this was my mom never said "no", just followed an approach similar to what you just suggested, John.

[Allen]

The best way to deal with it is to let them look! It's hard to deal with, but it's completely normal!

It is time for you to educate your teens on what they are seeing, and to monitor where they go looking! If they know you can see where they been surfing they wont want to check out any extreme sites from home.


Blocking their computers, grounding them, and that kind of stuff will just cause them to look more discreetly, and then you wont know what your kids are doing! Sheltering your kids, so they dont know it exists will leave them unable to deal with it later, when they need to know!!

[terron gregg]

i like the way that is put allen but there has to be some sort of line to be drawn .speaking of kids and sex i heard that in colorado some kids\parents are trying to get a maternity leave for teenage students who get pregnant for school imagine that it seems like they are get pregnant earlier and earlier back on topic sorry

[Fire Ball]

I wouldn't let the world know you are "letting" your kids look at porn on the internet Allen, that will get you a visit from CPS and possibly a one way ticket to tent city or the Springer show any way :D

[AZdezertgirl]

The best way to deal with it is to let them look! It's hard to deal with, but it's completely normal!

It is time for you to educate your teens on what they are seeing, and to monitor where they go looking! If they know you can see where they been surfing they wont want to check out any extreme sites from home.


Blocking their computers, grounding them, and that kind of stuff will just cause them to look more discreetly, and then you wont know what your kids are doing! Sheltering your kids, so they dont know it exists will leave them unable to deal with it later, when they need to know!!

not letting your kids look at internet porn does not mean you are sheltering them. yes they need to know. but i plan to be the one that does the informing. i dont want my kid thinking some girl crapping out a beer can or banging a donkey is normal.

[My Green Jeep]

I am so glad that my kids are past that stage...

Cant you tell??! I am going to be a grandma in June :pinch:

[chopped7]

My son is 11 also. If I saw him looking up porn on the net I would have a BIG PROBLEM with it! I would ground him for at least a month and would certainly use parental controls if I let him back on. I know that some parents are more leniant but I have heard of thing that they are doing now on those porn sites and its ... I HAVE NO WORDS FOR IT.. and you thinking a girl spitting a football out of her...is entertaining?? Dont you have a daughter?

What about these boys in your house with your son looking at that crap with your 8 year old daughter in the house?? Id be freaking out if I were you! Boys seeing those sort of things make minds race. and I wouldnt trust one of em around your daughter.. especially if they are hunting for it.

Not making a big deal out of it now.. will only let your son think that you will be ok with other things (that are a big deal) in the future.


I dont even let my son watch COPS.. He knows there are sick perverted idiots in the world because we talk about that sort of thing. but i dont need him seeing a bunch of drunk, stoned idiots on TV and people laughing at them like they are humorous. I want my son to see drunken, stoned idiots as what they are.. Drunken stoned LOSERS! not someone to laugh at and make fun of but to look at and feel sorry for. so he doesnt think acting that way in the future when drugs and alcohol are present will get him attention. I also dont let my son watch all these movies that are completely related to people getting high and drunk and its supposed to be comical?? How is someone who has devoted thier life to dropping out of school and getting high and drunk everyday comical? uhmmm OK?? Like that movie loathing in Las Vegas? That whole Movie is about two guys in Vegas getting high on acid.. THE WHOLE MOVIE! its ridiculous!

Getting a glimpse of the 5 oclock news everyday is enough of a wake up call for him.

Im lucky that he is into his runescape computer game and that the computer is in plain view of everyone in the household which makes it hard for him to be looking at anything inappropriate.

Well, Kelli, you and I have different parenting styles. I refuse to shelter my kids from the real world. I wasn't sheltered and grew up normal, productive, and successful. Every kid in my wife's hard core christian perfect family is a F'up except for her. Her cousin is in jail for DUI hit and run, and lost her kid to the state for child abuse. Her brother is a nice guy but a non productive leech of society(and has been in jail), and her other cousin has seen time in jail, and is 1/2 screwed up from all the drugs he did when he was younger. The parents of these kids live in million dollar homes, are holier than thou, and stifled the real world/street education most of us got as a youth and they rebelled. This is not the only family I've seen the perfect parents, terrible kids trend work out with. If you don't want you kid to watch cops, that's cool. You were not a boy growing up and you don't know what boys knew growing up. I'm 37 and the only thing I've learned since my youth is there's suposed to be some mysterious G spot on a woman. I'm still searching.

I started exploring the female anatomy in 7th grade as most of my buddies did. That's next year for my son. I would assume for yours too. Girls start having sex from 13 - 16. Boys usually take a little longer to get going because they chicken out the first few opportunities. If ( for some reason) a 13 yr old girl has a fancy for your 13 yr old son when the time comes, you better have him educated in the use of condoms or you will be a grandma at a young age and probably raise the kid. Pretending the real world isn't out there to be a good parent isn't the way to go IMO. It's there, and your kids have access to it. The question is where do you draw the line?

[Allen]

I wouldn't let the world know you are "letting" your kids look at porn on the internet Allen, that will get you a visit from CPS and possibly a one way ticket to tent city or the Springer show any way :D

My kids are too old for me to get in any trouble! I only had to lock up the videos when they were that young!:baby:


....anyways.....what do I know??:online2long:

[Allen]

not letting your kids look at internet porn does not mean you are sheltering them. yes they need to know. but i plan to be the one that does the informing. i dont want my kid thinking some girl crapping out a beer can or banging a donkey is normal.

I never said you should let your kids look at that kind of stuff. My guess is they wouldnt want to anyways! Most kids would get embarrased just looking at someone naked, I know I did!

I just worry about that kids that make it to college without knowing what they are doing. Someone ends up pregnant after the first college party!



....by the way, I have two children of my own. Both have never done drugs and are the best kids I could wish for!

[mingoglia]

I never said you should let .... get embarrased just looking at someone naked, I know I did!


There you go... bringing up that Elvis trip with you and Scully again....

[chopped7]

I wouldn't let the world know you are "letting" your kids look at porn on the internet Allen, that will get you a visit from CPS and possibly a one way ticket to tent city or the Springer show any way :D

I didn't say I was letting the world know my kid was looking at porn on the internet. I don't condone it but a porn website showed up on my computer. It could have been my wife checking out something funny a friend told her to check out(we all share the same internet access). Sublime is not all porn but most of it is. I haven't talked to my wife or my kid yet. I have just caught the neighborhood boys checking out bewbie wesites on my 'puter and have to assume they went to this site. It could have very well been that one of his friends said "go here", he saw it was adult content, and shut it down. They all go to funnyjunk, you tube, etc. for entertainment. I'm just glad he doesn't know about rotten.com yet.

just re read and realized you were talking to Allen and not me. post still stands thogh

[AZLugz]

Well, I have boys and girls and I am here to tell you that they both look and there is not a lot you can do to stop it short of locking them up. It is a natural part of growing up and I am sure that just about all of us have been there....some still are and some have major problems with it......yes, even Christians and no, it is not being a hypocrite, just being human.

I do feel you have to take action tho and not just telling them "no" or grounding them from everything for half their life!! I monitor the systems in our home and the kids know it. Both kids thought they could get by with deleting the history but there are more ways to see it than that and they got busted again. We don't have a problem now, seems to have past but it was talked about openly, the good and the bad, punishment was set and followed and it finally just died away. Biggest thing to me is don't freak about it, that makes them want to look more to see why you are so hyped about it. Let them know it is wrong but don't traumatize them for being naturally curious.

And Kelli, just because there is a young girl living there and some young boys are looking at porn on the inet, does not mean they will try any thing with her. We found a bunch of stuff at a friends house when I was younger and he had a younger sister, we never even considered her when looking at "stuff" and I think it is that way with most kids.......just my experience and opinion tho.

For us, we had talks about it and followed that with computer restriction and only using it for school and only with an adult, then they got access back but it was monitored, next offense was longer and third was longer.....didn't need a fourth. Watchdog programs and internet nanny software was a PITA and normally did not work right anyway, most times if it was running they could not go where they needed for school research. I have worked on computers for 20+years and they know they can't fool me, so they quit trying


Anyway, my opinion and what worked in our home with 4 kids

[Fire Ball]

Can you keep kids from drinking and having sex and looking at porn on the internet...Hell no.

Can you educate them to make good decisions and right frm wrong....hell yes.

That's all we can do and hope for the best :)

[Allen]

I agree completely Lugs! The best way to deal with it is parent interaction! Asking them "who spent 20 minutes looking around worldsex.com yesterday" goes a whole lot farther than clogging up the computer with site blockers!


When they know that you know they will stop! ...at least until they can outsmart you!

[scully]

There you go... bringing up that Elvis trip with you and Scully again....


What happens on Elvis, stays on Elvis...
:aagh:

[Bilt4Comfort]

Lol....boy did I ruin some of Mom's towels when I was a kid.
My oldest was caught by his Mother on a questionable website while she was in the other room watching TV. He wasn't just looking either....he was acting out his fantasy. If I had caught him I probably would have made fun of his little junk, but Mommy went over and smacked him upside his head, screamed at him and left him sitting there with his limp biscuit in his hand.. Now tell me, if you were him, would you prefer I or she caught you? I felt sorry for him. I had the talk with him, and have had several since. He knows that those sites can really screw up the computer now, and that's my main concern about it. I bought him his own set of towels and told him to stay away from mine.

What are you gonna do? Boys are gonna spank it, don't act like you haven't/don't. I got things in my spank bank that would make the devil blush.

[AZLugz]

Lol....boy did I ruin some of Mom's towels when I was a kid.
What are you gonna do? Boys are gonna spank it, don't act like you haven't/don't. I got things in my spank bank that would make the devil blush.

umm.....and I shook hands with you at Sunflower!!!! :aagh::aagh::aagh:




LOL:laugh2:


I once heard a lecturer state that "There are only 2 types of people that do not masturbate or have not.....Pairaplegics (SP) and liars..."


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[mingoglia]

umm.....and I shook hands with you at Sunflower!!!! :aagh::aagh::aagh:




LOL:laugh2:


I once heard a lecturer state that "There are only 2 types of people that do not masturbate or have not.....Pairaplegics (SP) and liars..."


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Reminds me of the joke, (told to a woman) "Did you know that 90% of woman masturbate in the shower and the other 10% sing?". Then you ask, "Do you know what they sing?"... and when she says, "no", follow that up with, "then you're part of the 90%". :drummer:

[Bilt4Comfort]

umm.....and I shook hands with you at Sunflower!!!! :aagh::aagh::aagh:




LOL:laugh2:


I once heard a lecturer state that "There are only 2 types of people that do not masturbate or have not.....Pairaplegics (SP) and liars..."


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No worries Lugz...I don't believe I glazed the knuckles that morning.

[jperez]

I once heard a lecturer state that "There are only 2 types of people that do not masturbate or have not.....Pairaplegics (SP) and liars..."


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ROTFLMAO!!!:smilielol5:

[RandyT]

Jeeeezz! Long thread.
What happens on Elvis, Moms towels, etc...too funny.

My 2 cents.
I have two boys 10 and 12. They are not allowed unsupervised internet access for any reason. Period. I though all parents had the same rule.

I remember my introduction to pron, it was a magazine in Grandpas truck. I was 7 maybe. I was like: That poor girl has a hatchet wound in her crotch! :pinch:

[Bilt4Comfort]

Jeeeezz! Long thread.
That poor girl has a hatchet wound in her crotch! :pinch:

Wow...must have been one of them biker mags where the show the girls at the wrong time of the month huh?

[Clay]

There is a way you can look at the history of what sites have been visited. I use firefox as my browser so it is very easy to see where my computer has been. I am sure you have all heard of Kim Konando who talks about computers on 550 KFYI on Saturdays from noon till two. She thinks you should print out the following link and have both you and your child your child sign it. Also, put the computer out in the open so a parent can check on what is happening.

http://www.komando.com/kids/commandments.aspx

[Bilt4Comfort]

I get my kids browser history confused with mine. Some of his sites are better.

[tywilson88]

just from my own experience, have his mom talk to him. when i was younger and looking at that useless stuff on the internet, my mom found out. when she talked to me i was thuroughly embarrassed and never looked at that stuff again. at my house at least...

[fatboypup]

my god i would really have gone from playing with it if they had the internet when i was that age

[MadCarlisle]

unsupervised internet access is asking for trouble more ways than one. your child may be subject to bullying, sex predators, unscrupeless people etc.

if you don't know what they are doing you are asking for trouble. you don't have to limit their access but you definetely need to know what they are doing on the net from surfing, shopping, forums, my space etc


wait until your kid learns how to clear the browser history. you won't know where they have been

Put a key logger program to keep track of them. better to monitor in the background with a discussion later about what they are doing. if you don't you may have problems later. don't think that it can't happen to you because many think that and find out bad things later.

here is the program i use. takes screen shots and keeps track of key strokes, websites etc. you can even block certain websites with parent controls, or specfic links.

http://pcpandora.com/

[AZLugz]

Tere are several more ways to get it that just the history if you know how to work it

I don't watch my kids the whole time but they know I pop in and check and they also know I check the computers regular. They are trusted but checked up on also

[chopped7]

Wow, hot topic. Well, I got the expaination this morning and it will probably open up a new can of worms to some. It went like this.

"Me and Deion were watching street fighting videos on You Tube and a lot of them had Sublime.com down in the corner. We went to it to find more street fighting videos but the site wasn't what we thought it would be."

And no, I don't think pre teen boys watching street fighting, UFC, boxing, football, wrestling, playing violent in nature video games, seeing violence on TV, or listening to rock music is going to screw them up. The murderers, rapists, sex offenders, fettish freaks, hookers, spousal abusers, junkies and those that commit suicide have way more problems than entertainment media. Most likely a psycological disorder or a real crappy childhood that parents blame on media to conceal their own screw ups.

I also let my son drive my Jeeps unassisted in controlled enviorments. I'm sure some think that is dangerous and irresponsible but I don't. Letting your kid learn to drive at 16 from some dude at driving school collecting a paycheck from his 2nd job is irresponsible. I grew up in the country and was usually the one that drove the tractor or truck when it came time to hay the fields(because I wan't big enough to buck hay yet). 2 ton flatbeds to 1/2 ton pickups. I drove my 1st five speed car on the road at 11 yrs. old. Knowing how to drive at an early age may or may not have any impact on the fact that I haven't had any speeding tickets or accidents that were my fault in 21 years of driving legally(off road doesn't count, I've had a few incidents 'wheeling).

[AZLugz]

Yep, gotta agree. My boys and I have been playing violant video games since they were little and my youngest sons favorite movie when he was 5 was predator. My boys turned out good. I started driving when I was 11 and my youngest has wheeled a samurai and the jeep since he was 12 or 13.

[jperez]

LOL! thats a great explanation! thats happened to me before.... i went to www.whitehouse.com.......... dont do it.....
if you are looking for a link to the white house it www.whitehouse.gov
some of these sites are sneaky.
heck sublime.com.... i wouldve thought it was for the band sublime!

[lancetkenyon]

OK, I don't have any boys, but I am very open with my 16 year old daughter. I have been since she was about 11 or 12 when she started asking questions about stuff she had heard at school. She knows I will never tell a lie to her about anything sexual in nature. I might not explain some of the terms(like the trail called DS), but will be candid and informative. Sometimes too much she says!

[hharvey]

Are you blind with hairy palms now? :drummer:
[QUOTE=Bilt4Comfort;280558]Lol....boy did I ruin some of Mom's towels when I was a kid.
QUOTE]

[TwistedXJ]

Funny this has been posted as my sister's daughter recently was busted being curious.

Your son is 11...coming up on puberty very quickly (so is my niece). There is no coincidence here...both of these kids are coming up on some very major changes in their bodies that signal a new transition into sexual maturity. With these physical changes come psychological changes as well.

My suggestion to my sister was this...Talk is cheap when the internet easily opens up a whole different world to them. I told her to have "the talk", which you have had, but I added a twist...

I told her to have a three part talk...physical maturity, sexual reproduction, STD's. The kick is that with each talk you use the internet to show the other side of nudity and sex...the more "real" side...

Has your son seen pictures of developing fetus?
Has your son ever seen a woman give birth?
Has your son ever seen pictures of genital herpes?
An AIDS patient?

This is not meant to scare, but rather to educate. I think it also takes the curiosity and really gets at the consequences of behavior they will contemplate in the next 5-6 years. Finally, I believe it says to her daughter or maybe your son, you can come to me and we can explore these questions together.

Hope that helps.

Me being a new parent, I have often contemplated the best way to do this and the most effective ( my son is 2 and my daughter is -12 days I like to think ahead and be prepared :) )And out of all the reading I have done this by far seems the most logical and effective way, thank you for the insight!!

Another note Fear and Loathing rocks, it is one of the best movies of the times bet you would like Snatch, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels or Full Metal Jacket and I know you would definitely hate A Clockwork Orange!

[TwistedXJ]

unsupervised internet access is asking for trouble more ways than one. your child may be subject to bullying, sex predators, unscrupeless people etc.

if you don't know what they are doing you are asking for trouble. you don't have to limit their access but you definetely need to know what they are doing on the net from surfing, shopping, forums, my space etc


wait until your kid learns how to clear the browser history. you won't know where they have been

Put a key logger program to keep track of them. better to monitor in the background with a discussion later about what they are doing. if you don't you may have problems later. don't think that it can't happen to you because many think that and find out bad things later.

here is the program i use. takes screen shots and keeps track of key strokes, websites etc. you can even block certain websites with parent controls, or specfic links.

http://pcpandora.com/


There are so many other ways to see what a child is doing online then just the History button, the internet is a wonderful thing for children to utilize, sure block the porn sites and what not like that. But keystroke logs and other nifty little things is an invasion of privacy. I think the main point being is that all these programs and child watching and pool monitors are easing the parents responsibility of what it is to be a parent.......WATCH YOUR CHILDREN don't let a program or a monitor or any other cool groovy tech device that makes it easier for you, being a parent isn't supposed to be easy and it is a 24/7 365 kinda job!!!

[lancetkenyon]

There are so many other ways to see what a child is doing online then just the History button, the internet is a wonderful thing for children to utilize, sure block the porn sites and what not like that. But keystroke logs and other nifty little things is an invasion of privacy. I think the main point being is that all these programs and child watching and pool monitors are easing the parents responsibility of what it is to be a parent.......WATCH YOUR CHILDREN don't let a program or a monitor or any other cool groovy tech device that makes it easier for you, being a parent isn't supposed to be easy and it is a 24/7 365 kinda job!!!

I guess that means you get 1 day off this year.

[Miles2go1979]

There are so many other ways to see what a child is doing online then just the History button, the internet is a wonderful thing for children to utilize, sure block the porn sites and what not like that. But keystroke logs and other nifty little things is an invasion of privacy. I think the main point being is that all these programs and child watching and pool monitors are easing the parents responsibility of what it is to be a parent.......WATCH YOUR CHILDREN don't let a program or a monitor or any other cool groovy tech device that makes it easier for you, being a parent isn't supposed to be easy and it is a 24/7 365 kinda job!!!

Think about all the stuff you got away with when you were a kid. Now think of what you could have done if you had the internet at your fingertips! You can't watch them 24/7. Back in the day there wasn't any cyber space to be cautious of, with today's technology there's a whole new world of freaks and pervs and evils lurking.

Kids these days are technology natives, we are pilgrims learning the scape of the land. They know they're way around any computerized machine they see. I say fight fire with fire, use the technology to fight technology.

Also, if they have a PSP or video Ipod, check them for porn often. I hear alot of my students discussing that kind of stuff, I even caught one of them watching it durring class!

[Henthorn]

Just give him the link to 2 girls 1 cup..

He wont try to access anything like that again

---AT YOUR OWN RISK, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY PSYCH. THERAPY LATER ON---

[amber.hodge]

God - I just read this....does this mean I only have 3 years before the dreaded "sex talk"?!! what is the world coming to??!!

[TwistedXJ]

I guess that means you get 1 day off this year.



Yep better take advantage only hapens one every 4 yrs:fashizzle:

[TwistedXJ]

Think about all the stuff you got away with when you were a kid. Now think of what you could have done if you had the internet at your fingertips! You can't watch them 24/7. Back in the day there wasn't any cyber space to be cautious of, with today's technology there's a whole new world of freaks and pervs and evils lurking.

Kids these days are technology natives, we are pilgrims learning the scape of the land. They know they're way around any computerized machine they see. I say fight fire with fire, use the technology to fight technology.

Also, if they have a PSP or video Ipod, check them for porn often. I hear alot of my students discussing that kind of stuff, I even caught one of them watching it durring class!

Here is an excelent idea, for starters no pc in their room have one in a room were guess you know what is coming up YOU WATCH THEM I mean after all it is YOUR job!!!!! I was a kid when all of this happened and I am 26 now with two of my own, I never surfed porn because my parents kept the FAMILY pc in the family room and you had a time limit they didn't actively watch but their presence was known! All comes down to watching and knowing what they are doing, the only tech program I agree with is Websense which is like net nanny, just in case they get an undesirable site.

[wikked08jk]

My son is 7, getting ready to be 8 in September, and im not worried about porn, or 2 girls one cup, im worried about bullies, teachers and teachers who are bullies.

Since he was a young kid, we pretty much engraved into his head that his priorities were family, school, his activities, and his friends. The kid cant stand seeing people kiss on screen, and doesn't particularly like those steamy scenes. We give him the freedom to see movies like jack@$$ and cops and stuff like that, and he makes comments like those guys are idiots, and thats dumb.

heres an easy way to keep your kids from accessing the internet with out your permission. even at night....
Lock you PC, create a password, that only you and your wife or significant other knows. It works and it keeps them form going on unless you allow them to. Simple.

Once they are on. make sure you monitor the sites, I recently caught my son and the neighbor girl across the street on youtube watching stick figure movies of people smoking crack, and shooting each other. They thought it was cute. My punishment: Eo, sasha, If I catch you again, you will be allowed to use my computer again and you wont be allowed to see each other for a month. Now im going to tell your mom sasha.

It worked. She tried it one more time and sure enough i heard eo, DONT YOUR GONNA GET ME GROUNDED AND I LIKE LINE RIDER!


Plus i tell him he cant have a GF until he is out of college. That girls will only distract him from school and his sports (he snowboards, races bmx and MX, and plays soccer.)