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64037 From: warm_arizona <warm_arizona@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:26pm
Subject: PS hookup help
Attempting to convert my YJ from manual to power steering. Got the
pump and gear, but need to know what side is the pressure side on the
gear.
Is it the front/pass or rear/driver side hookup?
Help?!?!?
Greg
90YJ
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64038 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:52pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
LOL!!
Welcome back Bill.
Glad someone can state their opinion without sugar coating it. I gave
up on that aluminum vs steel arguing crap last time it came up. Those
that have them want to believe there is nothing wrong with them and get
all vein popping upset when someone tries to explain it. Those that
don't have them just go crazy trying to explain the problem and get all
vein popping upset when their opinions are disregarded by those that
have them. Not my bag anymore. I'd rather work on my Jeep.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:11 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
> On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am
> sorry
> they aren't as strong as steel.
> Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> To: <blt4rox@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
>
>
>> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where
>> the tie
>> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to one
> Jeep
>> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure
>> someone
>> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also
>> the
> fact
>> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of
>> both
>> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part.
>> Everyone
>> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex
>> tie rod
>> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger
>> diameter...the
> point
>> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but
>> wheether
> it
>> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it
>> isnt.
>>
>>
>> Sharky
>>
>>
>>
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64039 From: Reid Scholes <azturf@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:46pm
Subject: Re: PS hookup help
Greg,
I went from muscle to power steering in my '89 YJ. The the pressure side
has the sensor attached where the hard line from the pump meets the hose.
This hose is connected to the front/passenger side on the steering box.
Reid
'89 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "warm_arizona" <warm_arizona@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] PS hookup help
> Attempting to convert my YJ from manual to power steering. Got the
> pump and gear, but need to know what side is the pressure side on the
> gear.
>
> Is it the front/pass or rear/driver side hookup?
>
> Help?!?!?
>
> Greg
> 90YJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
64040 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy -BS reply
Go back where you came from :)
See ya in the morning
Sharky
64041 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:00pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
I dont recal anyone getting upset Chris....dont be so thin skinned :)
Its all in fun, your just reading too much into what you see.
Sharky
64042 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: Rick's Jeep
Brad, (or anyone else) I would be more than happy to collect it from you
and get the funds to Tom Lafrance. I am at 55th and loop 101. I plan on
wrenching on the Jeep most of the day tomorrow, so feel free to come by.
5405 W. Kerry Lane
Craig
602 576-5656 mobile
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Gailey" <dunefever1@y...>
To: "Gary Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>; "zj_lopez" <off-road@c...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rick's Jeep
> I personally have never met Rick but I am always
> willing to help out a fellow member or person in need.
> I have read numerous E-mails about Rick and how he has
> help others. It's time to return the favor. I have had
> no success with the pay-pal system. Is their someone
> on the west side (19th Ave and Union Hills) taking
> donation? Please let me know who I can contact to
> contribute.
> Glad to here that everyone is OK
> Brad
> --- Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
> wrote:
> > Put me down for the $10. Rick being back on the
> > road with a Jeep is
> > worth it to me. Where are we collecting these
> > funds?
> >
> > Gary Holmes
> >
> > zj_lopez wrote:
> >
> > >I dont want to organize this, but put me down
> for
> > the 10 bucks. I
> > >haven't meet Rick yet, but I've read lots of
> good
> > things about him
> > >and that works for me.
> > >
> > >If we, as a club, can come together for our
> own,
> > like you guys/gals
> > >did for others (I missed the Relief Run so I
> can't
> > say "we"), all the
> > >better for the club and it's members. - Jose
> > >
> > >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon
> Loveless-DSL"
> > <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>If every one of the 1500 plus members in
> this club
> > chipped in $10 we
> > >>would have Rick Beers well on his way to
> a new
> > Jeep!! Who wants to
> > >>organize that one?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Jon Loveless
> > >>480-816-0963
> > >>jloveless@d...
> > >>jloveless@d...
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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64043 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:43pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Yeah steel is ok but the aluminum all polished up sure do look real purtee......
JohnK
sorry I just couldnt resist
64044 From: Robert Holmes <rjholmes@d...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:44pm
Subject: Sat 8-31
Wondering if there are any runs planed for next Saturday, haven't been out
wheeling since all the closers and the Jeep has been complaining about the
lack of action.
I'm equipped for pretty much any trail so anything from a dirt road to a
line segment between two points sounds good.
64045 From: blt4rox <blt4rox@e...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:08pm
Subject: Re: Jawbreaker
Why not block off all of the bypasses since that is BLM's main
complaint? Make everyone stay in the wash FOR THE WHOLE TRAIL.
Throughout the Nat'l Forest Service this method of limiting use is
practiced with good success. I realize it would be more work than
just making a gate keeper obstacle, but the gate keeper really
doesn't address the bypass issue as once a vehicle is past the gate
keeper it can still take the bypasses.
Further, what about the gatekeeper itself? A natural obstacle would
be stacked in just as the trail has been. A man-made one would be
much more difficult to circumvent.
I'm against a gate; too easy to lock.
Sean
64046 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:41pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Um, well, uh, well you see, umm, what if, I mean say for instance it does ummm break, well geez, what the hell do ya do then, um well hopefully pull out the spare, um, but what if ya don't have one, uh how about welding, ooh, don't tink so, oh I guess a hi lift handle and duct tape, yup done for the day.
My imput, I'll go with steel
Barry
Bill Mish wrote:
Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am sorry
they aren't as strong as steel.
Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ;
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where the tie
> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to one
Jeep
> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure someone
> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also the
fact
> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of both
> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part. Everyone
> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex tie rod
> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger diameter...the
point
> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but wheether
it
> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it isnt.
>
>
> Sharky
>
>
>
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64047 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:46am
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
There were some rather spirited discussions.
Not thin skinned either. I've simply learned that it makes no sense to
argue about something when neither side wants to listen.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 08:00 PM, Sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> I dont recal anyone getting upset Chris....dont be so thin skinned
> :)
> Its all in fun, your just reading too much into what you see.
>
> Sharky
>
64048 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:22am
Subject: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Hello,
In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought most of my stuff mail order from other vendors.
I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail regarding parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order sources.
Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever met. He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to use his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure everything was taken care of.
I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the future. If you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote you some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
64049 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:38am
Subject: RE: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Oh come on Joe. Let's hear it. At least we won't have to hear anymore
about your beloved manual tranny. ;)
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:19 PM
To: 'msa12171'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Mike,
I asked for people who wish to understand the differences to email me
offline... which quite a few did, and I provided them a writeup and the
description of an experiment that they can run themselves if they wish
to test whether or not what I say is true.
While I could spend hundreds of hours explaining to you the material
property differences and we could discuss the required nth order
non-linear differential equations and deformable solids theory with the
requisite materials science thrown in... I won't because it would be a
waste of my time and wouldn't change your mind.
If you are enamoured with your aluminum tierod... keep it and enjoy.
If you are protecting whoever makes these things... I respect your
honorable intentions but I find them misguided.
If you are attempting to create a public debate with me on this issue...
I must request of you what I requested of others... and write me off
list.
If you are truely interested in understanding the differences and would
like me to present you with a little experiment which will show you the
differences... write me offline and I will send it to you offline. Take
a few minutes and do the experiment yourself and then come back to me
with the results... then tell me what you think of the use of aluminum
or an aluminum alloy as a tierod.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msa12171 [mailto:msa12171@a...]
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
>
>
> Hey Joe. Have you ever seen a chromoly or DOM tierod break? I have
> seen all kinds of tie rod materials break. If you're on a trail and
> doing some hard wheeling in the rocks, even you should know this (been
> on a trail lately?), parts will break when stressed enough. I think
> that it is a good product and you are referring to it as "aluminum".
> It's not completely aluminum. It's an aluminum alloy and it has
> different characteristics than any of the aluminums that you might be
> comparing it to. Do you know the makeup of this material? Have you
> tested it yourself? Anything that we take out on the trail, no matter
> what it's made of, can break. Period. The aluma-flex is flexible so
> it can absorb some of the energy that is applied to it and return to
> it's original shape, thus making it able to take the force better than
> a steel that will resist bending and when it does, it's bent. Sure,
> steel can be straightened, but do you want to be on the road with a
> Jeep that has had it's steel tie rod bent and reshaped, therefore
> weakened? I don't. :) Not to start anything or make this a huge
> ordeal, Joe, but please, before you attack a company and their
> product, get ALL the information and back your opinions up with facts.
> You might get better results and aviod legal action from someone if
> you have proof to back your statements up. Have a great day.
>
> Mike Anderson
>
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64050 From: Brandon Parvin <hornzdotnet@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:44am
Subject: Roofing Today
I forgot who it was that was roofing in a couple of
hours, but if you still need some help let me know
asap. I would be glad to help in any way. Please
repsond asap. Thanks
Brandon
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64051 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:45am
Subject: RE: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
I agree with Chris. You should all get back to work on your Jeeps. (If
your Jeep is done you have to come over to my house and help me with
mine.)
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:53 PM
To: Bill Mish
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
LOL!!
Welcome back Bill.
Glad someone can state their opinion without sugar coating it. I gave
up on that aluminum vs steel arguing crap last time it came up. Those
that have them want to believe there is nothing wrong with them and get
all vein popping upset when someone tries to explain it. Those that
don't have them just go crazy trying to explain the problem and get all
vein popping upset when their opinions are disregarded by those that
have them. Not my bag anymore. I'd rather work on my Jeep.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:11 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
> On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am
> sorry
> they aren't as strong as steel.
> Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> To: <blt4rox@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
>
>
>> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where
>> the tie
>> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to
one
> Jeep
>> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure
>> someone
>> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also
>> the
> fact
>> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of
>> both
>> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part.
>> Everyone
>> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex
>> tie rod
>> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger
>> diameter...the
> point
>> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but
>> wheether
> it
>> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it
>> isnt.
>>
>>
>> Sharky
>>
>>
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>
>
>
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64052 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:57am
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Ya But you can chrome plate steel or even gold plate it.. can you do this with aluminum?
----- Original Message -----
From: hunteroffroad@aol.com
To: Sharxjeep@cs.com ; rv6a@mac.com ; yldkat55@hotmail.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Yeah steel is ok but the aluminum all polished up sure do look real purtee......
JohnK
sorry I just couldnt resist
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64053 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 4:58am
Subject: Re: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
I will second that... He is always straight and to the point... He wont BS you, and will make sure that you are setup with the application that will best suit your needs. Im also proud to say that becuase of him, I am an offroad enthusiast! He is the first one to take me on my first run! Crown King! 4-Wheelers Supply is very lucky to have him.
Thanks Barry!
Nick Gasmena
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 3:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Hello,
In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought most of my stuff mail order from other vendors.
I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail regarding parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order sources.
Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever met. He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to use his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure everything was taken care of.
I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the future. If you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote you some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
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64054 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:45am
Subject: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I’ve said this once before
I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
But I can’t stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won’t drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don’t make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
64055 From: robert mcneeley <rubberside_up309@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:54am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
ROFL!!! Oh my. You have way too much free time. There is only one small proplem... In the book Sam ends up liking the green eggs and ham.... So is the next jeep going to have and auto?
Robert
Joe W wrote:
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I’ve said this once before
I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
But I can’t stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won’t drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don’t make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
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64056 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:58am
Subject: Re: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Barry has been a real help for me as well. From the time I started
four wheeling, he has been very helpful and patient. He loves this
hobby and likes to help others out too. I always reccomend Barry and
am glad to see others do it too.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers
> Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought
most of
> my stuff mail order from other vendors.
>
> I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for
> setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail
regarding
> parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out
> that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order
> sources.
>
> Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever
met.
> He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he
> smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to
use
> his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down
> this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure
> everything was taken care of.
>
> I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the
future. If
> you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote
you
> some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Kruize
64057 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:02am
Subject: 4x4 GroupBuy.com
Hi there,
I have added a couple new items for your spending pleasure :)
www.4x4groupbuy.com
Is it cool outside yet?
Thanks,
What did the frenchman say after he ran himself over with his own jeep
64058 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:24am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
ROTFLMAO
Joe,
You have a way with quenching the heat when discussions are getting out of hand.
I am waiting for your solution to the Aluminum tie rod issue, that out to be interesting.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe W
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don't plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I'll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley's comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I've said this once before
I'm sure you think I'm quite the bore.
But I can't stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I'm all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won't drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I'm getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don't make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don't make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
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64059 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:51am
Subject: Bending 3/16" plate steel.
I have a piece of 3/16 plate steel, about 45 long that I need a 45 deg bend in. Actually I needed two bends but I managed to get one the hard way &.
Anyone know of a shop that can bend this steel for me? (my arms are tired :D)
Mike Chatfield
(Mike@AzChatfield.net)
64060 From: JML2112 DESERTRAT <JML2112@h...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:57am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
lol good point Robert.by the way i love my manual trans.granny gear is the only way to go.
Jeff
74 CJ5
>From: robert mcneeley
>To: arizonajeep@cox.net, "Azvjc \(E-mail\)"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>ROFL!!! Oh my. You have way too much free time. There is only one small proplem... In the book Sam ends up liking the green eggs and ham.... So is the next jeep going to have and auto?
>Robert
> Joe W wrote:My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
>of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
>
>
>Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
>
>The Auto Tran
>By Joe West
>
>
>I said I hate an auto tran.
>I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
>
>If you should bring it on a plane,
>Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
>If you approach me on a boat,
>I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
>
>Get it through your skull so thick--
>an auto trans, it makes me sick!
>
>The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
>No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
>If I used it, I would vomit
>Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
>
>Now remove it from my face
>Before I have to trash this place.
>
>Do not install it in your Jeep
>It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
>When you find the fluid, so flaming red
>My laughter will ring inside your head
>
>I know I’ve said this once before
>I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
>But I can’t stand an auto tran.
>I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
>
>What is it with you, Sam I croaked
>(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
>You think I want this crap, I coughed
>Do you have ties to Microsoft?
>
>Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
>So it will shift without a hand?
>Well I won’t drive it anyway,
>Not for a million bucks a day!
>
>Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
>Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
>I told you how I hate that crap.
>Don’t make me give your face a slap.
>
>Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
>Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
>An auto trans by any rights
>We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
>
>The ARCA guys, those little girls
>Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
>I do not need the added edge
>For driving up that class 5 ledge
>
>So now I leave you with these words
>An auto trans, it's for the birds
>If in your rig you find this crap
>Please keep shut your opinionated trap
>
>A real man stirs a manual tran
>With clutch and brake and gas we can
>With grace and talent pedals fly
>While those with Autos sit and cry
>
>Joe West
>
>
>
>
>
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64061 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:41am
Subject: RE: Bending 3/16" plate steel.
Anything on the west side perhaps? (I live in Avondale)
- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Chatfield [mailto:Mike@AzChatfield.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 9:51 AM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Bending 3/16" plate steel.
I have a piece of 3/16 plate steel, about 45 long that I need a 45 deg bend in. Actually I needed two bends but I managed to get one the hard way &.
Anyone know of a shop that can bend this steel for me? (my arms are tired :D)
Mike Chatfield
(Mike@AzChatfield.net)
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64037 From: warm_arizona <warm_arizona@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:26pm
Subject: PS hookup help
Attempting to convert my YJ from manual to power steering. Got the
pump and gear, but need to know what side is the pressure side on the
gear.
Is it the front/pass or rear/driver side hookup?
Help?!?!?
Greg
90YJ
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64038 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 6:52pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
LOL!!
Welcome back Bill.
Glad someone can state their opinion without sugar coating it. I gave
up on that aluminum vs steel arguing crap last time it came up. Those
that have them want to believe there is nothing wrong with them and get
all vein popping upset when someone tries to explain it. Those that
don't have them just go crazy trying to explain the problem and get all
vein popping upset when their opinions are disregarded by those that
have them. Not my bag anymore. I'd rather work on my Jeep.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:11 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
> On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am
> sorry
> they aren't as strong as steel.
> Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> To: <blt4rox@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
>
>
>> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where
>> the tie
>> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to one
> Jeep
>> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure
>> someone
>> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also
>> the
> fact
>> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of
>> both
>> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part.
>> Everyone
>> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex
>> tie rod
>> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger
>> diameter...the
> point
>> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but
>> wheether
> it
>> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it
>> isnt.
>>
>>
>> Sharky
>>
>>
>>
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64039 From: Reid Scholes <azturf@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 7:46pm
Subject: Re: PS hookup help
Greg,
I went from muscle to power steering in my '89 YJ. The the pressure side
has the sensor attached where the hard line from the pump meets the hose.
This hose is connected to the front/passenger side on the steering box.
Reid
'89 YJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "warm_arizona" <warm_arizona@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] PS hookup help
> Attempting to convert my YJ from manual to power steering. Got the
> pump and gear, but need to know what side is the pressure side on the
> gear.
>
> Is it the front/pass or rear/driver side hookup?
>
> Help?!?!?
>
> Greg
> 90YJ
>
>
>
>
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>
>
64040 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 3:57pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy -BS reply
Go back where you came from :)
See ya in the morning
Sharky
64041 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 4:00pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
I dont recal anyone getting upset Chris....dont be so thin skinned :)
Its all in fun, your just reading too much into what you see.
Sharky
64042 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 8:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: Rick's Jeep
Brad, (or anyone else) I would be more than happy to collect it from you
and get the funds to Tom Lafrance. I am at 55th and loop 101. I plan on
wrenching on the Jeep most of the day tomorrow, so feel free to come by.
5405 W. Kerry Lane
Craig
602 576-5656 mobile
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Gailey" <dunefever1@y...>
To: "Gary Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>; "zj_lopez" <off-road@c...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rick's Jeep
> I personally have never met Rick but I am always
> willing to help out a fellow member or person in need.
> I have read numerous E-mails about Rick and how he has
> help others. It's time to return the favor. I have had
> no success with the pay-pal system. Is their someone
> on the west side (19th Ave and Union Hills) taking
> donation? Please let me know who I can contact to
> contribute.
> Glad to here that everyone is OK
> Brad
> --- Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
> wrote:
> > Put me down for the $10. Rick being back on the
> > road with a Jeep is
> > worth it to me. Where are we collecting these
> > funds?
> >
> > Gary Holmes
> >
> > zj_lopez wrote:
> >
> > >I dont want to organize this, but put me down
> for
> > the 10 bucks. I
> > >haven't meet Rick yet, but I've read lots of
> good
> > things about him
> > >and that works for me.
> > >
> > >If we, as a club, can come together for our
> own,
> > like you guys/gals
> > >did for others (I missed the Relief Run so I
> can't
> > say "we"), all the
> > >better for the club and it's members. - Jose
> > >
> > >--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon
> Loveless-DSL"
> > <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> > >
> > >>If every one of the 1500 plus members in
> this club
> > chipped in $10 we
> > >>would have Rick Beers well on his way to
> a new
> > Jeep!! Who wants to
> > >>organize that one?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Jon Loveless
> > >>480-816-0963
> > >>jloveless@d...
> > >>jloveless@d...
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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64043 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 5:43pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Yeah steel is ok but the aluminum all polished up sure do look real purtee......
JohnK
sorry I just couldnt resist
64044 From: Robert Holmes <rjholmes@d...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 9:44pm
Subject: Sat 8-31
Wondering if there are any runs planed for next Saturday, haven't been out
wheeling since all the closers and the Jeep has been complaining about the
lack of action.
I'm equipped for pretty much any trail so anything from a dirt road to a
line segment between two points sounds good.
64045 From: blt4rox <blt4rox@e...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:08pm
Subject: Re: Jawbreaker
Why not block off all of the bypasses since that is BLM's main
complaint? Make everyone stay in the wash FOR THE WHOLE TRAIL.
Throughout the Nat'l Forest Service this method of limiting use is
practiced with good success. I realize it would be more work than
just making a gate keeper obstacle, but the gate keeper really
doesn't address the bypass issue as once a vehicle is past the gate
keeper it can still take the bypasses.
Further, what about the gatekeeper itself? A natural obstacle would
be stacked in just as the trail has been. A man-made one would be
much more difficult to circumvent.
I'm against a gate; too easy to lock.
Sean
64046 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Fri Aug 23, 2002 10:41pm
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Um, well, uh, well you see, umm, what if, I mean say for instance it does ummm break, well geez, what the hell do ya do then, um well hopefully pull out the spare, um, but what if ya don't have one, uh how about welding, ooh, don't tink so, oh I guess a hi lift handle and duct tape, yup done for the day.
My imput, I'll go with steel
Barry
Bill Mish wrote:
Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am sorry
they aren't as strong as steel.
Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From:
To: ;
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where the tie
> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to one
Jeep
> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure someone
> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also the
fact
> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of both
> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part. Everyone
> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex tie rod
> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger diameter...the
point
> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but wheether
it
> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it isnt.
>
>
> Sharky
>
>
>
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64047 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:46am
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
There were some rather spirited discussions.
Not thin skinned either. I've simply learned that it makes no sense to
argue about something when neither side wants to listen.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 08:00 PM, Sharxjeep@c... wrote:
> I dont recal anyone getting upset Chris....dont be so thin skinned
> :)
> Its all in fun, your just reading too much into what you see.
>
> Sharky
>
64048 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:22am
Subject: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Hello,
In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought most of my stuff mail order from other vendors.
I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail regarding parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order sources.
Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever met. He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to use his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure everything was taken care of.
I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the future. If you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote you some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
64049 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:38am
Subject: RE: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Oh come on Joe. Let's hear it. At least we won't have to hear anymore
about your beloved manual tranny. ;)
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:19 PM
To: 'msa12171'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Mike,
I asked for people who wish to understand the differences to email me
offline... which quite a few did, and I provided them a writeup and the
description of an experiment that they can run themselves if they wish
to test whether or not what I say is true.
While I could spend hundreds of hours explaining to you the material
property differences and we could discuss the required nth order
non-linear differential equations and deformable solids theory with the
requisite materials science thrown in... I won't because it would be a
waste of my time and wouldn't change your mind.
If you are enamoured with your aluminum tierod... keep it and enjoy.
If you are protecting whoever makes these things... I respect your
honorable intentions but I find them misguided.
If you are attempting to create a public debate with me on this issue...
I must request of you what I requested of others... and write me off
list.
If you are truely interested in understanding the differences and would
like me to present you with a little experiment which will show you the
differences... write me offline and I will send it to you offline. Take
a few minutes and do the experiment yourself and then come back to me
with the results... then tell me what you think of the use of aluminum
or an aluminum alloy as a tierod.
Kind Regards,
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: msa12171 [mailto:msa12171@a...]
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 8:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
>
>
> Hey Joe. Have you ever seen a chromoly or DOM tierod break? I have
> seen all kinds of tie rod materials break. If you're on a trail and
> doing some hard wheeling in the rocks, even you should know this (been
> on a trail lately?), parts will break when stressed enough. I think
> that it is a good product and you are referring to it as "aluminum".
> It's not completely aluminum. It's an aluminum alloy and it has
> different characteristics than any of the aluminums that you might be
> comparing it to. Do you know the makeup of this material? Have you
> tested it yourself? Anything that we take out on the trail, no matter
> what it's made of, can break. Period. The aluma-flex is flexible so
> it can absorb some of the energy that is applied to it and return to
> it's original shape, thus making it able to take the force better than
> a steel that will resist bending and when it does, it's bent. Sure,
> steel can be straightened, but do you want to be on the road with a
> Jeep that has had it's steel tie rod bent and reshaped, therefore
> weakened? I don't. :) Not to start anything or make this a huge
> ordeal, Joe, but please, before you attack a company and their
> product, get ALL the information and back your opinions up with facts.
> You might get better results and aviod legal action from someone if
> you have proof to back your statements up. Have a great day.
>
> Mike Anderson
>
>
>
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64050 From: Brandon Parvin <hornzdotnet@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:44am
Subject: Roofing Today
I forgot who it was that was roofing in a couple of
hours, but if you still need some help let me know
asap. I would be glad to help in any way. Please
repsond asap. Thanks
Brandon
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64051 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:45am
Subject: RE: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
I agree with Chris. You should all get back to work on your Jeeps. (If
your Jeep is done you have to come over to my house and help me with
mine.)
:D
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 6:53 PM
To: Bill Mish
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
LOL!!
Welcome back Bill.
Glad someone can state their opinion without sugar coating it. I gave
up on that aluminum vs steel arguing crap last time it came up. Those
that have them want to believe there is nothing wrong with them and get
all vein popping upset when someone tries to explain it. Those that
don't have them just go crazy trying to explain the problem and get all
vein popping upset when their opinions are disregarded by those that
have them. Not my bag anymore. I'd rather work on my Jeep.
Chris
On Friday, August 23, 2002, at 06:11 PM, Bill Mish wrote:
> Ok, been out of town, but now I'm back.
> On aluminum tie rods, they are cute. If you like em, keep em, I am
> sorry
> they aren't as strong as steel.
> Relax, take a deep breath and welcome yourself back to reality.
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sharxjeep@c...>
> To: <blt4rox@e...>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
>
>
>> Well concidering the fact you can see on my sway bar bracket where
>> the tie
>> rod was pushed into it and the diff cover and its only happened to
one
> Jeep
>> one time ...I dont see how you come up with the BS factor. Im sure
>> someone
>> else would have managed to have done it by now dont you think. Also
>> the
> fact
>> that my Jeep was being strapped at the time and you had the force of
>> both
>> vehicles slamming it into the rock Id say also played a big part.
>> Everyone
>> has their own likes and dislikes...I happen to love the Alumi-Flex
>> tie rod
>> and is why I went with the complete system in the larger
>> diameter...the
> point
>> is not whether it works or not (we all know that it works), but
>> wheether
> it
>> is safe or not and I have not seen any evidence to prove to me it
>> isnt.
>>
>>
>> Sharky
>>
>>
>>
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64052 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 3:57am
Subject: Re: Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Ya But you can chrome plate steel or even gold plate it.. can you do this with aluminum?
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To: Sharxjeep@cs.com ; rv6a@mac.com ; yldkat55@hotmail.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Aluminum Alloy Tie Rods-calling BS.
Yeah steel is ok but the aluminum all polished up sure do look real purtee......
JohnK
sorry I just couldnt resist
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64053 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 4:58am
Subject: Re: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
I will second that... He is always straight and to the point... He wont BS you, and will make sure that you are setup with the application that will best suit your needs. Im also proud to say that becuase of him, I am an offroad enthusiast! He is the first one to take me on my first run! Crown King! 4-Wheelers Supply is very lucky to have him.
Thanks Barry!
Nick Gasmena
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From: Scott Kruize
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 3:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Hello,
In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought most of my stuff mail order from other vendors.
I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail regarding parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order sources.
Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever met. He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to use his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure everything was taken care of.
I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the future. If you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote you some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
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64054 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:45am
Subject: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I’ve said this once before
I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
But I can’t stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won’t drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don’t make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
64055 From: robert mcneeley <rubberside_up309@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:54am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
ROFL!!! Oh my. You have way too much free time. There is only one small proplem... In the book Sam ends up liking the green eggs and ham.... So is the next jeep going to have and auto?
Robert
Joe W wrote:
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I’ve said this once before
I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
But I can’t stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won’t drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don’t make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
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64056 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:58am
Subject: Re: A BIG Thank you to Barry and 4 wheelers Supply
Barry has been a real help for me as well. From the time I started
four wheeling, he has been very helpful and patient. He loves this
hobby and likes to help others out too. I always reccomend Barry and
am glad to see others do it too.
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Scott Kruize" <skruize@c...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In the last 9 years I have bought some Rancho shocks from 4 Wheelers
> Supply but never had any work done in the shop and always bought
most of
> my stuff mail order from other vendors.
>
> I knew that 4 Wheelers Supply had the best reputation in town for
> setting up gears and ARB's so when Barry answered my e-mail
regarding
> parts prices and said to give him a call I was delighted to find out
> that he had the lowest prices around including my normal mail order
> sources.
>
> Barry is the most customer service oriented parts guy I have ever
met.
> He was always there for me and when I had an issue with the shop he
> smoothed things out. It turned out one of the gear guys decided to
use
> his thumb as a drift punch or something which really slowed him down
> this week which kinda screwed up their schedule. Barry made sure
> everything was taken care of.
>
> I'm definitely going to throw more business their way in the
future. If
> you want to be treated right give Barry a call. He will also quote
you
> some pretty good prices. Let him know you're an AZVJC member.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Kruize
64057 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:02am
Subject: 4x4 GroupBuy.com
Hi there,
I have added a couple new items for your spending pleasure :)
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Is it cool outside yet?
Thanks,
What did the frenchman say after he ran himself over with his own jeep
64058 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:24am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
ROTFLMAO
Joe,
You have a way with quenching the heat when discussions are getting out of hand.
I am waiting for your solution to the Aluminum tie rod issue, that out to be interesting.
Ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe W
My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
The Auto Tran
By Joe West
I said I hate an auto tran.
I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
If you should bring it on a plane,
Don't plan to see your Jeep again.
If you approach me on a boat,
I'll shove that trans right down your throat!
Get it through your skull so thick--
an auto trans, it makes me sick!
The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
If I used it, I would vomit
Projectiles just like Halley's comet!
Now remove it from my face
Before I have to trash this place.
Do not install it in your Jeep
It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
When you find the fluid, so flaming red
My laughter will ring inside your head
I know I've said this once before
I'm sure you think I'm quite the bore.
But I can't stand an auto tran.
I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
What is it with you, Sam I croaked
(I'm all worked up, my voice is choked.)
You think I want this crap, I coughed
Do you have ties to Microsoft?
Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
So it will shift without a hand?
Well I won't drive it anyway,
Not for a million bucks a day!
Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
Damn you Sam, I'm getting pissed!
I told you how I hate that crap.
Don't make me give your face a slap.
Shut up Sam, don't make me smack you.
Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
An auto trans by any rights
We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
The ARCA guys, those little girls
Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
I do not need the added edge
For driving up that class 5 ledge
So now I leave you with these words
An auto trans, it's for the birds
If in your rig you find this crap
Please keep shut your opinionated trap
A real man stirs a manual tran
With clutch and brake and gas we can
With grace and talent pedals fly
While those with Autos sit and cry
Joe West
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64059 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:51am
Subject: Bending 3/16" plate steel.
I have a piece of 3/16 plate steel, about 45 long that I need a 45 deg bend in. Actually I needed two bends but I managed to get one the hard way &.
Anyone know of a shop that can bend this steel for me? (my arms are tired :D)
Mike Chatfield
(Mike@AzChatfield.net)
64060 From: JML2112 DESERTRAT <JML2112@h...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 9:57am
Subject: Re: I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
lol good point Robert.by the way i love my manual trans.granny gear is the only way to go.
Jeff
74 CJ5
>From: robert mcneeley
>To: arizonajeep@cox.net, "Azvjc \(E-mail\)"
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I Do not like an Auto Trans... I do not like it Sam I am
>Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>ROFL!!! Oh my. You have way too much free time. There is only one small proplem... In the book Sam ends up liking the green eggs and ham.... So is the next jeep going to have and auto?
>Robert
> Joe W wrote:My Apologies to Dr. Seuss and his heirs for this *******ization
>of his wonderful book... I just couldn't help myself this morning.
>
>
>Read to the beat of "Green Eggs and Ham" by Dr. Seuss
>
>The Auto Tran
>By Joe West
>
>
>I said I hate an auto tran.
>I said I hate it, damn you Sam!
>
>If you should bring it on a plane,
>Don’t plan to see your Jeep again.
>If you approach me on a boat,
>I’ll shove that trans right down your throat!
>
>Get it through your skull so thick--
>an auto trans, it makes me sick!
>
>The fluid looks like red doggy drool;
>No clutch pedal; it just ain't cool.
>If I used it, I would vomit
>Projectiles just like Halley’s comet!
>
>Now remove it from my face
>Before I have to trash this place.
>
>Do not install it in your Jeep
>It belongs inside a lowrider heep,
>When you find the fluid, so flaming red
>My laughter will ring inside your head
>
>I know I’ve said this once before
>I’m sure you think I’m quite the bore.
>But I can’t stand an auto tran.
>I mean I hate them, damn you Sam!
>
>What is it with you, Sam I croaked
>(I’m all worked up, my voice is choked.)
>You think I want this crap, I coughed
>Do you have ties to Microsoft?
>
>Have you bundled Windows inside your tran?
>So it will shift without a hand?
>Well I won’t drive it anyway,
>Not for a million bucks a day!
>
>Now leave at once, you are dismissed.
>Damn you Sam, I’m getting pissed!
>I told you how I hate that crap.
>Don’t make me give your face a slap.
>
>Shut up Sam, don’t make me smack you.
>Or the great Cornholio will attack you.
>An auto trans by any rights
>We have to say, Huh-huh, it bites!
>
>The ARCA guys, those little girls
>Can have the trans, it makes me hurl
>I do not need the added edge
>For driving up that class 5 ledge
>
>So now I leave you with these words
>An auto trans, it's for the birds
>If in your rig you find this crap
>Please keep shut your opinionated trap
>
>A real man stirs a manual tran
>With clutch and brake and gas we can
>With grace and talent pedals fly
>While those with Autos sit and cry
>
>Joe West
>
>
>
>
>
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64061 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sat Aug 24, 2002 10:41am
Subject: RE: Bending 3/16" plate steel.
Anything on the west side perhaps? (I live in Avondale)
- Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Chatfield [mailto:Mike@AzChatfield.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 9:51 AM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Bending 3/16" plate steel.
I have a piece of 3/16 plate steel, about 45 long that I need a 45 deg bend in. Actually I needed two bends but I managed to get one the hard way &.
Anyone know of a shop that can bend this steel for me? (my arms are tired :D)
Mike Chatfield
(Mike@AzChatfield.net)
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