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63937-63961
63937 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:16pm
Subject: Re: Floor mats
At 08:08 PM 8/22/02 -0000, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if the $30 floor mats for the Wrangler are worth it
>or are there better aftermarket mats in the same price range? I
>haven't seen one on the lot yet with the mats (maybe they keep them
>clean until purchase?).
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
What I did is, I bought a rectangular fatigue mat for 30 bucks from Price
Costco
(these are dark green/brown and have hexagonal holes). There's enough
mat to cut a floor mat for the driver's side, the passenger's side, and the
back
of the jeep, with or without a back seat. And they don't slide around
like those black after-market mats do.
Tony
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63938 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:14pm
Subject: [FS] TeraFlex Oil Pan Skid B.O.
Price: B.O.
Contact: Jason LaLiberty 602-595-5739
Pulled this off the jeep. Now sitting in the garage. No scratches....
Jason
Jason LaLiberty
63939 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Sunday, September 1, 2002
Hello All,
Jay Eller is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Sunday, September 1, 2002.
When: Meet at meeting spot at 6:30 am
Hit Table Mesa parking lot around 7:00 am.
Where: We're going to meet in front of Toybox Offroad shop at 6:30am. Shop is located north of Deer Valley road on 23rd avenue. 22010 N. 23rd Avenue.
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 7am
CB Channel:
Couple of us want to get our newly modified rigs out for a shake down and want to meet others in the group for a fun trip. Will probably hit trails like Terminator and Predator. Annihilator possible if all holds together. Would love to have all that would like to come.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
63940 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Sunday, September 1, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jay Eller is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Sunday, September 1, 2002.
When: Meet at meeting spot at 6:30 am
Hit Table Mesa parking lot around 7:00 am.
Where: We're going to meet in front of Toybox Offroad shop at 6:30am. Shop is located north of Deer Valley road on 23rd avenue. 22010 N. 23rd Avenue.
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 7am
CB Channel:
Couple of us want to get our newly modified rigs out for a shake down and want to meet others in the group for a fun trip. Will probably hit trails like Terminator and Predator. Annihilator possible if all holds together. Would love to have all that would like to come.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
63941 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:41pm
Subject: [FS] Play inthe water instead of the dirt
Price: 4500
Contact: riknaz@msn.com Rick Beer
1990 Glastron 17 1/2 ft runabout open bow i/o 4 cyl.volvo garage kept &; maintained a must see
RICK BIERTEMPFEL
63942 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Floor mats
>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:16:51 -0700
>To: "JimSerio" <jim@r...>, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Floor mats
>In-Reply-To: <ak3gc3+k30b@eGroups.com>
>References: <F204hu1Bd4xKjDnxHed0001ab66@h...>
>
>At 08:08 PM 8/22/02 -0000, you wrote:
>>Does anyone know if the $30 floor mats for the Wrangler are worth it
>>or are there better aftermarket mats in the same price range? I
>>haven't seen one on the lot yet with the mats (maybe they keep them
>>clean until purchase?).
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>What I did is, I bought a rectangular fatigue mat for 30 bucks from Price
Costco
>(these are dark green/brown and have hexagonal holes). There's enough
>mat to cut a floor mat for the driver's side, the passenger's side, and
the back
>of the jeep, with or without a back seat. And they don't slide around
>like those black after-market mats do.
>
>Tony
>
Oh, also, no mat is gonna keep mud from getting on yer carpets, so I trashed
the carpets and had the entire inside of the jeep Inyati'ed. (That was the
expensive part.) The fatigue mats were the inexpensive part. =)
Inyati does a good job, but make SURE that the inside of your jeep is
spotless.
They commented that they had never seen a cleaner inside of a tub than my
jeep. I spent several hours getting the grease and mud and dirt out of every
nook and cranny and cleaning all the surfaces with various solvents and
isopropanol.
Tony
--
even the safest course is fraught with peril
63943 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:52am
Subject: Re: Roofing BBQ/Party
around 5:00a.m. I'm starting, but I'm not expecting anyone to get there that early.
Anthony Celaya
63944 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 0:04pm
Subject: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Geeze...I guy has a couple of run in with the Jeeps impression of a turtle
and he never lives it down...Thanks guys for reminding me about those...I
almost forgot LOL
Sharky
63945 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 0:05pm
Subject: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Ouch...now that hurt Mike...however I wish I had something to blame it on
other than bored um LOL
Sharky
63946 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
The NV4500 is a very nice shifting transmission. I have been driving
Steve's Scout for the last week and I like it much better than the NP435
in the Powerwagon. Both are set up with hydrualic clutches. I think it's
the 5th gear in the NV4500 which makes it just a little nicer. I do like
the automatic (AW-4 Toyota truck transmission) in the ZJ for 4-wheeling
and every day driving. The wagon will be getting an automatic.
Linda
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I don't really want an auto. I like the stick. What I really want is a
> stick with a lower first gear. NV4500 is the ticket for me.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JimSerio [mailto:jim@r...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:03 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
>
> > FredTJ should pop in and tell you what he thinks of his recently
> > completed manual-to-auto swap in his TJ. Fred?
> >
> > IMO, you made an excellent choice.
>
> Stu,
>
> Thanks for your comments. That's one more thing I wanted to ask. How
> many people with manuals wish they had autos and vice versa? You
> don't see too many people talking about this.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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63947 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:17pm
Subject: TJ Spring Rate Tags
For all you out there that still have your TJ springs in the garage,
or even on your rig for that matter... I am trying to figure out
which color tags go with the model TJs. Some will have a green tag
and some have a red tag attached to the springs (I'm just looking
for the front) Can a few of you guys with sports, saharas, and SEs
look at your tag and let me know what model you have and what tag
color is on your front springs? I have a Sport with green tags. I'm
thinking green tags are sport and sahara springs and the red tags
are for SEs. Thanks -Rob
63948 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:22pm
Subject: [LU] Boulder, Colo. Sues Federal Agencies Over Global Warming]
I had to post this one. Sorry!
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
eco wacko's from boulder, colo
Boulder, Colo. Sues Federal Agencies Over Global Warming
by Marc Morano
22 Aug, 2002
(CNSNews.com) - The Boulder, Colo. City Council will join environmental
activists in taking legal action against the federal government to try
to control greenhouse gas emissions which environmentalists say is the
cause of ...
Go to
http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200208\POL 20020822b.html
to view the full story.
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63949 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop <dcooper182@m...>
Reply-To: landuse@m...
To: landuse <landuse@m...>
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
<A HREF="http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html">
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html</A>
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network of people
and
organizations working to preserve the biological diversity of the unique
Sky
Islands borderlands ecoregion. Hear from Sky Islands Wildlands Network
member groups,
private citizens, scientists, government agencies, and other land
protection organizations about the latest efforts to restore and connect
wildlands. An informative day of more than 20 different presentations
will be
followed by an evening banquet, regional conservation awards, keynote
address
by Dave Foreman, special Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner,
and
an opportunity to unwind and network with friends at a post-banquet
concert
with the Dana Lyons Band. Deadline for registering is October 11! Click
here
for conference registration form.
Make your plans to attend now!
Saturday, October 19
Conference sessions: 8:30 a.m.–5:30 p.m.
Evening banquet and speakers: 6 p.m.–8:45 p.m.
Keynote address by noted conservationist and author, Dave Foreman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
Hoffmann, Arizona Wilderness Coalition; Roseann Hanson, Sonoran
Institute; Bart Koehler,
The Wilderness Society; Rurik List, conservation biologist; Gray Ranch;
Jennifer Atchley, World
Wildlife Fund; Todd Schulke, Center for Biological Diversity; Tom Woods,
Southeastern
Arizona Bird Observatory; Carolyn Campbell, Coalition for Sonoran Desert
Protection;
Maeveen Behan, Pima County's Sonoran Desert Protection Plan; David
Hodges, Sky Island
Alliance; Kim Vacariu, Wildlands Project; Jessica Pope, New Mexico
Wilderness Alliance;
Tom Swetnam, University of Arizona; Craig Miller, Defenders of Wildlife;
Carlos Lopez
Gonzalez, jaguar researcher; Diana Barnes Freshwater, Arizona Open Land
Trust; Ralph Ware,
National Resource Conservation Service; Joe Austin, Coronado Ranch.
Topics
The Science of Biodiversity Protection; Sky Islands Conservation Vision;
Wildlife Tracking and Conservation; National Forest Fire Management;
Protecting Rangelands; Arizona Wilderness Campaigns; New Mexico
Wilderness
Campaigns; Apache Highlands Protection; Fire Management in Saguaro
National
Park; Wildlands Protection in Mexico; Power of Grassroots Campaigns;
Conservation on the Gray Ranch; Protecting the Missing Link; The
Peloncillos
Cross-Border Connection; Wildlands-Urban Interface Fire Management;
Conservation and Ecotourism; History of Fire in the Sky Islands;
Conservation
on Developed Lands; Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan; Restoration
Opportunities in the Sky Islands; Wolf and Jaguar Recovery; Land Trusts
and
Easements; Federal Conservation Programs; Innovative Private Lands
Management.
Important Information
Event: "Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
Date: October 19, 2002
Location: Radisson Hotel City Center, downtown Tucson, located 2 blocks
east
of I-10 via the Congress St. exit.
Registration: Advance registration MUST BE RECEIVED by October 11 (link
to
conference registration form at
http://www.skyislandalliance.org/sia/conference2002.htm).
Lodging: Discounted rates available for advance reservations at Radisson
Hotel City Center ($58-single; $68-double). Call 520-624-8711 for
lodging
reservations and information. Book your rooms early! You must mention
Sky
Islands 2002 conference to get discounted room rates.
Meals: On your own, or provided for additional fee (see online
registration
form).
Parking: Available at Radisson Hotel City Center garage.
Airport Transportation: The Radisson provides a free shuttle service for
guests to and from Tucson International Airport (advance reservation
required).
Weather: Tucson’s autumn weather is warm during the day and pleasantly
cool
during the evening.
--
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own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity
of the individual and cannot really know freedom.
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63950 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:44pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
The conference sessions during the day are free. I wonder how they would react if the parking lot filled up with Jeeps and people in red shirts.........How about a group run in our "club colors" to their free conferences then dinner afterwards? I don't think we'd have to say anything at all - our presence there should be enough to make them crazy.
Todd Schulke is so wacked out that he should be performing at the Improv. I think I'll fill out the form and list the AZVJC as my group affiliation just to see what they do.
Len
linda luik wrote:
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop
Reply-To: landuse@moab.off-road.com
To: landuse
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network of people
and
organizations working to preserve the biological diversity of the unique
Sky
Islands borderlands ecoregion. Hear from Sky Islands Wildlands Network
member groups,
private citizens, scientists, government agencies, and other land
protection organizations about the latest efforts to restore and connect
wildlands. An informative day of more than 20 different presentations
will be
followed by an evening banquet, regional conservation awards, keynote
address
by Dave Foreman, special Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner,
and
an opportunity to unwind and network with friends at a post-banquet
concert
with the Dana Lyons Band. Deadline for registering is October 11! Click
here
for conference registration form.
Make your plans to attend now!
Saturday, October 19
Conference sessions: 8:30 a.m.–5:30 p.m.
Evening banquet and speakers: 6 p.m.–8:45 p.m.
Keynote address by noted conservationist and author, Dave Foreman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
Hoffmann, Arizona Wilderness Coalition; Roseann Hanson, Sonoran
Institute; Bart Koehler,
The Wilderness Society; Rurik List, conservation biologist; Gray Ranch;
Jennifer Atchley, World
Wildlife Fund; Todd Schulke, Center for Biological Diversity; Tom Woods,
Southeastern
Arizona Bird Observatory; Carolyn Campbell, Coalition for Sonoran Desert
Protection;
Maeveen Behan, Pima County's Sonoran Desert Protection Plan; David
Hodges, Sky Island
Alliance; Kim Vacariu, Wildlands Project; Jessica Pope, New Mexico
Wilderness Alliance;
Tom Swetnam, University of Arizona; Craig Miller, Defenders of Wildlife;
Carlos Lopez
Gonzalez, jaguar researcher; Diana Barnes Freshwater, Arizona Open Land
Trust; Ralph Ware,
National Resource Conservation Service; Joe Austin, Coronado Ranch.
Topics
The Science of Biodiversity Protection; Sky Islands Conservation Vision;
Wildlife Tracking and Conservation; National Forest Fire Management;
Protecting Rangelands; Arizona Wilderness Campaigns; New Mexico
Wilderness
Campaigns; Apache Highlands Protection; Fire Management in Saguaro
National
Park; Wildlands Protection in Mexico; Power of Grassroots Campaigns;
Conservation on the Gray Ranch; Protecting the Missing Link; The
Peloncillos
Cross-Border Connection; Wildlands-Urban Interface Fire Management;
Conservation and Ecotourism; History of Fire in the Sky Islands;
Conservation
on Developed Lands; Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan; Restoration
Opportunities in the Sky Islands; Wolf and Jaguar Recovery; Land Trusts
and
Easements; Federal Conservation Programs; Innovative Private Lands
Management.
Important Information
Event: "Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
Date: October 19, 2002
Location: Radisson Hotel City Center, downtown Tucson, located 2 blocks
east
of I-10 via the Congress St. exit.
Registration: Advance registration MUST BE RECEIVED by October 11 (link
to
conference registration form at
http://www.skyislandalliance.org/sia/conference2002.htm).
Lodging: Discounted rates available for advance reservations at Radisson
Hotel City Center ($58-single; $68-double). Call 520-624-8711 for
lodging
reservations and information. Book your rooms early! You must mention
Sky
Islands 2002 conference to get discounted room rates.
Meals: On your own, or provided for additional fee (see online
registration
form).
Parking: Available at Radisson Hotel City Center garage.
Airport Transportation: The Radisson provides a free shuttle service for
guests to and from Tucson International Airport (advance reservation
required).
Weather: Tucson’s autumn weather is warm during the day and pleasantly
cool
during the evening.
--
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own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity
of the individual and cannot really know freedom.
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63951 From: Kyle Hagan <Kyle@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
Free Food???? Im IN!!!!
Kyle
www.usa4x4.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Len Sullivan
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
The conference sessions during the day are free. I wonder how they would react if the parking lot filled up with Jeeps and people in red shirts.........How about a group run in our "club colors" to their free conferences then dinner afterwards? I don't think we'd have to say anything at all - our presence there should be enough to make them crazy.
Todd Schulke is so wacked out that he should be performing at the Improv. I think I'll fill out the form and list the AZVJC as my group affiliation just to see what they do.
Len
linda luik wrote:
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop
Reply-To: landuse@moab.off-road.com
To: landuse
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network reman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
Hoffmann, Arizona Wilderness Coalition; Roseann Hanson, Sonoran
Institute; Bart Koehler,
The Wilderness Society; Rurik List, conservation biologist; Gray Ranch;
Jennifer Atchley, World
Wildlife Fund; Todd Schulke, Center for Biological Diversity; Tom Woods,
Southeastern
Arizona Bird Observatory; Carolyn Campbell, Coalition for Sonoran Desert
Protection;
Maeveen Behan, Pima County's Sonoran Desert Protection Plan; David
Hodges, Sky Island
Alliance; Kim Vacariu, Wildlands Project; Jessica Pope, New Mexico
Wilderness Alliance;
Tom Swetnam, University of Arizona; Craig Miller, Defenders of Wildlife;
Carlos Lopez
Gonzalez, jaguar researcher; Diana Barnes Freshwater, Arizont: "Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
Date: October 19, 2002
Location: Radisson Hotel City Center, downtown Tucson, located 2 blocks
east
of I-10 via the Congress St. exit.
Registration: Advance registration MUST BE RECEIVED by October 11 (link
to
conference registration form at
http://www.skyislandalliance.org/sia/conference2002.htm).
Lodging: Discounted rates available for advance reservations at Radisson
Hotel City Center ($58-single; $68-double). Call 520-624-8711 for
lodging
reservations and information. Book your rooms early! You must mention
Sky
Islands 2002 conference to get discounted room rates.
Meals: On your own, or provided for additional fee (see online
registration
form).
Parking: Available at Radisson Hotel City Center garage.
Airport Transportation: The Radisson provides a free shuttle service for
guests to and from Tucson International Airport (advance reservation
required).
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63952 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:38pm
Subject: RE: Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
Can I play? Both tranny's have pros and cons. The trend for the seriously hard and outrageous trails is auto. Heck Jack McCullen and Tracy Jordan long time stick runners converted to auto. I have run both and you could not pay me to go back to standard. Well maybe you could! One thing the stick has is that it will rarely leave you stranded.
Just play'n
Barry
Robert Holmes wrote:
Minus well chime in on this as I run a manual and like it, I run a T-18 with
the granny low first gear so that helps in the liking department. The
Scrambler (manual) is primarily my dads Jeep and it does great on the rocks.
However I will be building a CJ-6 soon and I have elected to go with a Turbo
400 auto instead of a manual because it is nice on the rocks, and for those
who challenge just how much time you really spend on the rocks, Its all in
the trails you pick. personally Id say for the local and the majority of the
people in the clubs liking the rocky terrain around here go with the auto.
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63953 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:47pm
Subject: RE: Old Diff Covers laying around
Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you can
have. Let me know if you want it.
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
Just wandering
Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
I would pay almost nothing for them?
The question is not
"If you pick your nose"
but
"Where you put the booger"
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
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63954 From: <itsajeepthing28@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:05pm
Subject: Wheeling up North???
Anyone planning any trips up to the northern part of the state. If nothing
planned anyone want to go this weekend??? I was thinking Schnebly hill in
Sedona... Nothing tough but something to get out of the blazing heat and out
of the city... How about the Payson or Mogollon Rim area??? A N
Y O N E ? ? ?
Gary O.
63955 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:17pm
Subject: RE: Rick Beer rebuild fund
Tom,
After you open the account at BofA we can just deposit the money in to
the account correct. Or I can send you a check for Rick.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: tom lafrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:12 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Rick Beer rebuild fund
Hello all,
I've not yet gotten to BofA to open the acct, but my PayPal acct online
sure is growing. So far we have over $110.00 donated by generous,
caring
individuals.
I figure if the club can organize to help an entire community that it
doesn't even know (fire run), we SHOULD be able to collect enough to
help
one of our own get back on the trail. Skip that extra 12 pack this
weekend and donate to help Rick out of this mess.
Any vendors who care to contribute to this project, NOW is the time to
speak up!
Tom LaFrance
PayPay to tlafrance@j...
"Rick Beer rebuild fund" in notes
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63956 From: joseph2779 <Joseph2779@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:40pm
Subject: "Tag... your it!!!!"
I tagged a lifted yellow YJ over here in the west valley. I finally
got the tag off of my hands since I got it on the road from Crown
King back to the highway last Saturday. First time running the
anniversary Crown King Run with the Group, and it was awesome. I am
still not sure who tagged me out of the pack of Jeeps I was traveling
with, but I am thinking it was Sharky! But of course I could be
wrong. I tried to find someone in the east valley, but had no luck.
Well Mr. Yellow YJ... good luck in taking care of that tag.
Joe Bruce (93YJ)
63957 From: mt_b <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:50pm
Subject: *Another" shameless plug for Hunter Off Road
Just wanted to give some props to John for some awesome work on
tubeage for my rocker guards.
BTW, I finally had the oppurtunity to be very abusive on my tube
fenders/winchplate/bumper on Armageddon this weekend, as as expected,
they held up without a hint of flex or any breakage.
Dan
63958 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:52pm
Subject: Re: Old Diff Covers laying around
Speaking of which, anyone have a spare D44 one laying around?
Chris
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 07:47 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
> Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you
> can
> have. Let me know if you want it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
>
>
> Just wandering
> Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
> I would pay almost nothing for them?
>
> The question is not
> "If you pick your nose"
> but
> "Where you put the booger"
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
63959 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:55pm
Subject: Re: "Tag... your it!!!!"
It wasn't Sharky!!! :)
Anthony Celaya
63960 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Old Diff Covers laying around
I've got a nice pretty stainless/chrome one I would let you have real cheap
;-)
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Chris Krieg wrote:
> Speaking of which, anyone have a spare D44 one laying around?
>
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 07:47 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
>
> > Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you
> > can
> > have. Let me know if you want it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
> >
> >
> > Just wandering
> > Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
> > I would pay almost nothing for them?
> >
> > The question is not
> > "If you pick your nose"
> > but
> > "Where you put the booger"
> >
> > Sincerely: JEEP THANG
> > Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
63961 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 9:19pm
Subject: [FS] 4 new BFG 31-10.5 All-terrain KO mounted on 8x15 Eagle Outlaw rims
Price: $600.00 obo
Contact: Call Pat after 7:00pm Monday throu Sunday
Fits jeep 5x4.5 bolt pattern,18mm offset.
Patrick Neveau
63937 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:16pm
Subject: Re: Floor mats
At 08:08 PM 8/22/02 -0000, you wrote:
>Does anyone know if the $30 floor mats for the Wrangler are worth it
>or are there better aftermarket mats in the same price range? I
>haven't seen one on the lot yet with the mats (maybe they keep them
>clean until purchase?).
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
What I did is, I bought a rectangular fatigue mat for 30 bucks from Price
Costco
(these are dark green/brown and have hexagonal holes). There's enough
mat to cut a floor mat for the driver's side, the passenger's side, and the
back
of the jeep, with or without a back seat. And they don't slide around
like those black after-market mats do.
Tony
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63938 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:14pm
Subject: [FS] TeraFlex Oil Pan Skid B.O.
Price: B.O.
Contact: Jason LaLiberty 602-595-5739
Pulled this off the jeep. Now sitting in the garage. No scratches....
Jason
Jason LaLiberty
63939 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Sunday, September 1, 2002
Hello All,
Jay Eller is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Sunday, September 1, 2002.
When: Meet at meeting spot at 6:30 am
Hit Table Mesa parking lot around 7:00 am.
Where: We're going to meet in front of Toybox Offroad shop at 6:30am. Shop is located north of Deer Valley road on 23rd avenue. 22010 N. 23rd Avenue.
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 7am
CB Channel:
Couple of us want to get our newly modified rigs out for a shake down and want to meet others in the group for a fun trip. Will probably hit trails like Terminator and Predator. Annihilator possible if all holds together. Would love to have all that would like to come.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
63940 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:39pm
Subject: [TR] Table Mesa Area - Sunday, September 1, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
Jay Eller is leading a Table Mesa Area trail run on Sunday, September 1, 2002.
When: Meet at meeting spot at 6:30 am
Hit Table Mesa parking lot around 7:00 am.
Where: We're going to meet in front of Toybox Offroad shop at 6:30am. Shop is located north of Deer Valley road on 23rd avenue. 22010 N. 23rd Avenue.
Rating: 2.0+
Length: 7am
CB Channel:
Couple of us want to get our newly modified rigs out for a shake down and want to meet others in the group for a fun trip. Will probably hit trails like Terminator and Predator. Annihilator possible if all holds together. Would love to have all that would like to come.
There are a number of trails in this area; some of the most difficult trails in Arizona can be found here. There are also moderate and easy trails to be found. There are also ghost towns and old mines to explore in this area.
Here is an incomplete list of trails that may be found.
Anaconda
Predator
Raw Deal (Lower)
Raw Deal (Upper)
Terminator (Lower)
Terminator (Upper)
Tip Top Mine
Gillette
Milk Ranch
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
63941 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 2:41pm
Subject: [FS] Play inthe water instead of the dirt
Price: 4500
Contact: riknaz@msn.com Rick Beer
1990 Glastron 17 1/2 ft runabout open bow i/o 4 cyl.volvo garage kept &; maintained a must see
RICK BIERTEMPFEL
63942 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:05pm
Subject: Re: Floor mats
>Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:16:51 -0700
>To: "JimSerio" <jim@r...>, az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Floor mats
>In-Reply-To: <ak3gc3+k30b@eGroups.com>
>References: <F204hu1Bd4xKjDnxHed0001ab66@h...>
>
>At 08:08 PM 8/22/02 -0000, you wrote:
>>Does anyone know if the $30 floor mats for the Wrangler are worth it
>>or are there better aftermarket mats in the same price range? I
>>haven't seen one on the lot yet with the mats (maybe they keep them
>>clean until purchase?).
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>What I did is, I bought a rectangular fatigue mat for 30 bucks from Price
Costco
>(these are dark green/brown and have hexagonal holes). There's enough
>mat to cut a floor mat for the driver's side, the passenger's side, and
the back
>of the jeep, with or without a back seat. And they don't slide around
>like those black after-market mats do.
>
>Tony
>
Oh, also, no mat is gonna keep mud from getting on yer carpets, so I trashed
the carpets and had the entire inside of the jeep Inyati'ed. (That was the
expensive part.) The fatigue mats were the inexpensive part. =)
Inyati does a good job, but make SURE that the inside of your jeep is
spotless.
They commented that they had never seen a cleaner inside of a tub than my
jeep. I spent several hours getting the grease and mud and dirt out of every
nook and cranny and cleaning all the surfaces with various solvents and
isopropanol.
Tony
--
even the safest course is fraught with peril
63943 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 10:52am
Subject: Re: Roofing BBQ/Party
around 5:00a.m. I'm starting, but I'm not expecting anyone to get there that early.
Anthony Celaya
63944 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 0:04pm
Subject: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Geeze...I guy has a couple of run in with the Jeeps impression of a turtle
and he never lives it down...Thanks guys for reminding me about those...I
almost forgot LOL
Sharky
63945 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 0:05pm
Subject: Re: alumi-flex tierods for $89 new
Ouch...now that hurt Mike...however I wish I had something to blame it on
other than bored um LOL
Sharky
63946 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
The NV4500 is a very nice shifting transmission. I have been driving
Steve's Scout for the last week and I like it much better than the NP435
in the Powerwagon. Both are set up with hydrualic clutches. I think it's
the 5th gear in the NV4500 which makes it just a little nicer. I do like
the automatic (AW-4 Toyota truck transmission) in the ZJ for 4-wheeling
and every day driving. The wagon will be getting an automatic.
Linda
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> I don't really want an auto. I like the stick. What I really want is a
> stick with a lower first gear. NV4500 is the ticket for me.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JimSerio [mailto:jim@r...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:03 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
>
> > FredTJ should pop in and tell you what he thinks of his recently
> > completed manual-to-auto swap in his TJ. Fred?
> >
> > IMO, you made an excellent choice.
>
> Stu,
>
> Thanks for your comments. That's one more thing I wanted to ask. How
> many people with manuals wish they had autos and vice versa? You
> don't see too many people talking about this.
>
> Thanks again everyone!
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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63947 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:17pm
Subject: TJ Spring Rate Tags
For all you out there that still have your TJ springs in the garage,
or even on your rig for that matter... I am trying to figure out
which color tags go with the model TJs. Some will have a green tag
and some have a red tag attached to the springs (I'm just looking
for the front) Can a few of you guys with sports, saharas, and SEs
look at your tag and let me know what model you have and what tag
color is on your front springs? I have a Sport with green tags. I'm
thinking green tags are sport and sahara springs and the red tags
are for SEs. Thanks -Rob
63948 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:22pm
Subject: [LU] Boulder, Colo. Sues Federal Agencies Over Global Warming]
I had to post this one. Sorry!
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
eco wacko's from boulder, colo
Boulder, Colo. Sues Federal Agencies Over Global Warming
by Marc Morano
22 Aug, 2002
(CNSNews.com) - The Boulder, Colo. City Council will join environmental
activists in taking legal action against the federal government to try
to control greenhouse gas emissions which environmentalists say is the
cause of ...
Go to
http://www.CNSNEWS.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=\Politics\archive\200208\POL 20020822b.html
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63949 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop <dcooper182@m...>
Reply-To: landuse@m...
To: landuse <landuse@m...>
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
<A HREF="http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html">
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html</A>
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network of people
and
organizations working to preserve the biological diversity of the unique
Sky
Islands borderlands ecoregion. Hear from Sky Islands Wildlands Network
member groups,
private citizens, scientists, government agencies, and other land
protection organizations about the latest efforts to restore and connect
wildlands. An informative day of more than 20 different presentations
will be
followed by an evening banquet, regional conservation awards, keynote
address
by Dave Foreman, special Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner,
and
an opportunity to unwind and network with friends at a post-banquet
concert
with the Dana Lyons Band. Deadline for registering is October 11! Click
here
for conference registration form.
Make your plans to attend now!
Saturday, October 19
Conference sessions: 8:30 a.m.–5:30 p.m.
Evening banquet and speakers: 6 p.m.–8:45 p.m.
Keynote address by noted conservationist and author, Dave Foreman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
Hoffmann, Arizona Wilderness Coalition; Roseann Hanson, Sonoran
Institute; Bart Koehler,
The Wilderness Society; Rurik List, conservation biologist; Gray Ranch;
Jennifer Atchley, World
Wildlife Fund; Todd Schulke, Center for Biological Diversity; Tom Woods,
Southeastern
Arizona Bird Observatory; Carolyn Campbell, Coalition for Sonoran Desert
Protection;
Maeveen Behan, Pima County's Sonoran Desert Protection Plan; David
Hodges, Sky Island
Alliance; Kim Vacariu, Wildlands Project; Jessica Pope, New Mexico
Wilderness Alliance;
Tom Swetnam, University of Arizona; Craig Miller, Defenders of Wildlife;
Carlos Lopez
Gonzalez, jaguar researcher; Diana Barnes Freshwater, Arizona Open Land
Trust; Ralph Ware,
National Resource Conservation Service; Joe Austin, Coronado Ranch.
Topics
The Science of Biodiversity Protection; Sky Islands Conservation Vision;
Wildlife Tracking and Conservation; National Forest Fire Management;
Protecting Rangelands; Arizona Wilderness Campaigns; New Mexico
Wilderness
Campaigns; Apache Highlands Protection; Fire Management in Saguaro
National
Park; Wildlands Protection in Mexico; Power of Grassroots Campaigns;
Conservation on the Gray Ranch; Protecting the Missing Link; The
Peloncillos
Cross-Border Connection; Wildlands-Urban Interface Fire Management;
Conservation and Ecotourism; History of Fire in the Sky Islands;
Conservation
on Developed Lands; Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan; Restoration
Opportunities in the Sky Islands; Wolf and Jaguar Recovery; Land Trusts
and
Easements; Federal Conservation Programs; Innovative Private Lands
Management.
Important Information
Event: "Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
Date: October 19, 2002
Location: Radisson Hotel City Center, downtown Tucson, located 2 blocks
east
of I-10 via the Congress St. exit.
Registration: Advance registration MUST BE RECEIVED by October 11 (link
to
conference registration form at
http://www.skyislandalliance.org/sia/conference2002.htm).
Lodging: Discounted rates available for advance reservations at Radisson
Hotel City Center ($58-single; $68-double). Call 520-624-8711 for
lodging
reservations and information. Book your rooms early! You must mention
Sky
Islands 2002 conference to get discounted room rates.
Meals: On your own, or provided for additional fee (see online
registration
form).
Parking: Available at Radisson Hotel City Center garage.
Airport Transportation: The Radisson provides a free shuttle service for
guests to and from Tucson International Airport (advance reservation
required).
Weather: Tucson’s autumn weather is warm during the day and pleasantly
cool
during the evening.
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63950 From: Len Sullivan <kermitj10@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:44pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
The conference sessions during the day are free. I wonder how they would react if the parking lot filled up with Jeeps and people in red shirts.........How about a group run in our "club colors" to their free conferences then dinner afterwards? I don't think we'd have to say anything at all - our presence there should be enough to make them crazy.
Todd Schulke is so wacked out that he should be performing at the Improv. I think I'll fill out the form and list the AZVJC as my group affiliation just to see what they do.
Len
linda luik wrote:
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop
Reply-To: landuse@moab.off-road.com
To: landuse
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network of people
and
organizations working to preserve the biological diversity of the unique
Sky
Islands borderlands ecoregion. Hear from Sky Islands Wildlands Network
member groups,
private citizens, scientists, government agencies, and other land
protection organizations about the latest efforts to restore and connect
wildlands. An informative day of more than 20 different presentations
will be
followed by an evening banquet, regional conservation awards, keynote
address
by Dave Foreman, special Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner,
and
an opportunity to unwind and network with friends at a post-banquet
concert
with the Dana Lyons Band. Deadline for registering is October 11! Click
here
for conference registration form.
Make your plans to attend now!
Saturday, October 19
Conference sessions: 8:30 a.m.–5:30 p.m.
Evening banquet and speakers: 6 p.m.–8:45 p.m.
Keynote address by noted conservationist and author, Dave Foreman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
Hoffmann, Arizona Wilderness Coalition; Roseann Hanson, Sonoran
Institute; Bart Koehler,
The Wilderness Society; Rurik List, conservation biologist; Gray Ranch;
Jennifer Atchley, World
Wildlife Fund; Todd Schulke, Center for Biological Diversity; Tom Woods,
Southeastern
Arizona Bird Observatory; Carolyn Campbell, Coalition for Sonoran Desert
Protection;
Maeveen Behan, Pima County's Sonoran Desert Protection Plan; David
Hodges, Sky Island
Alliance; Kim Vacariu, Wildlands Project; Jessica Pope, New Mexico
Wilderness Alliance;
Tom Swetnam, University of Arizona; Craig Miller, Defenders of Wildlife;
Carlos Lopez
Gonzalez, jaguar researcher; Diana Barnes Freshwater, Arizona Open Land
Trust; Ralph Ware,
National Resource Conservation Service; Joe Austin, Coronado Ranch.
Topics
The Science of Biodiversity Protection; Sky Islands Conservation Vision;
Wildlife Tracking and Conservation; National Forest Fire Management;
Protecting Rangelands; Arizona Wilderness Campaigns; New Mexico
Wilderness
Campaigns; Apache Highlands Protection; Fire Management in Saguaro
National
Park; Wildlands Protection in Mexico; Power of Grassroots Campaigns;
Conservation on the Gray Ranch; Protecting the Missing Link; The
Peloncillos
Cross-Border Connection; Wildlands-Urban Interface Fire Management;
Conservation and Ecotourism; History of Fire in the Sky Islands;
Conservation
on Developed Lands; Sonoran Desert Conservation Plan; Restoration
Opportunities in the Sky Islands; Wolf and Jaguar Recovery; Land Trusts
and
Easements; Federal Conservation Programs; Innovative Private Lands
Management.
Important Information
Event: "Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
Date: October 19, 2002
Location: Radisson Hotel City Center, downtown Tucson, located 2 blocks
east
of I-10 via the Congress St. exit.
Registration: Advance registration MUST BE RECEIVED by October 11 (link
to
conference registration form at
http://www.skyislandalliance.org/sia/conference2002.htm).
Lodging: Discounted rates available for advance reservations at Radisson
Hotel City Center ($58-single; $68-double). Call 520-624-8711 for
lodging
reservations and information. Book your rooms early! You must mention
Sky
Islands 2002 conference to get discounted room rates.
Meals: On your own, or provided for additional fee (see online
registration
form).
Parking: Available at Radisson Hotel City Center garage.
Airport Transportation: The Radisson provides a free shuttle service for
guests to and from Tucson International Airport (advance reservation
required).
Weather: Tucson’s autumn weather is warm during the day and pleasantly
cool
during the evening.
--
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own which he is entitled to follow can have no respect for the dignity
of the individual and cannot really know freedom.
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63951 From: Kyle Hagan <Kyle@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 6:47pm
Subject: Re: [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
Free Food???? Im IN!!!!
Kyle
www.usa4x4.org
----- Original Message -----
From: Len Sullivan
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [LU] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)]
The conference sessions during the day are free. I wonder how they would react if the parking lot filled up with Jeeps and people in red shirts.........How about a group run in our "club colors" to their free conferences then dinner afterwards? I don't think we'd have to say anything at all - our presence there should be enough to make them crazy.
Todd Schulke is so wacked out that he should be performing at the Improv. I think I'll fill out the form and list the AZVJC as my group affiliation just to see what they do.
Len
linda luik wrote:
Here's another one. I didn't see a registration fee. anyone want to
crash the party?
Linda
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [Landuse] Another Eco Nazi Pow Wow (AZ)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 17:57:20 -0700
From: Coop
Reply-To: landuse@moab.off-road.com
To: landuse
NOTE WHO IS INVOLVED.
http://www.wild-earth.org/inside_wp/index_upcoming.html
You’re Invited to a Celebration of People and Nature in the Sky Islands!
"Sky Islands 2002: Restoring Connections"
October 19, 2002
Radisson Hotel City Center, Tucson, Arizona
Hosted by: Wildlands Project, Sky Island Alliance, New Mexico Wilderness
Alliance,
The Wilderness Society, and Arizona Wilderness Coalition
Join us all day Saturday for this event showcasing the network reman
Aldo Leopold interpretation by Richard Bodner
Saturday night concert with Dana Lyons Band
Invited Presenters
Peter Warshall, Whole Earth Review; Diana Hadley, Arizona State Museum;
USFS; Malpai
Borderlands Group; Dale Turner, Nature Conservancy; National Park
Service; Don
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63952 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:38pm
Subject: RE: Re: Rubicon - Auto or Manual?
Can I play? Both tranny's have pros and cons. The trend for the seriously hard and outrageous trails is auto. Heck Jack McCullen and Tracy Jordan long time stick runners converted to auto. I have run both and you could not pay me to go back to standard. Well maybe you could! One thing the stick has is that it will rarely leave you stranded.
Just play'n
Barry
Robert Holmes wrote:
Minus well chime in on this as I run a manual and like it, I run a T-18 with
the granny low first gear so that helps in the liking department. The
Scrambler (manual) is primarily my dads Jeep and it does great on the rocks.
However I will be building a CJ-6 soon and I have elected to go with a Turbo
400 auto instead of a manual because it is nice on the rocks, and for those
who challenge just how much time you really spend on the rocks, Its all in
the trails you pick. personally Id say for the local and the majority of the
people in the clubs liking the rocky terrain around here go with the auto.
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63953 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 7:47pm
Subject: RE: Old Diff Covers laying around
Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you can
have. Let me know if you want it.
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
Just wandering
Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
I would pay almost nothing for them?
The question is not
"If you pick your nose"
but
"Where you put the booger"
Sincerely: JEEP THANG
Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
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63954 From: <itsajeepthing28@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:05pm
Subject: Wheeling up North???
Anyone planning any trips up to the northern part of the state. If nothing
planned anyone want to go this weekend??? I was thinking Schnebly hill in
Sedona... Nothing tough but something to get out of the blazing heat and out
of the city... How about the Payson or Mogollon Rim area??? A N
Y O N E ? ? ?
Gary O.
63955 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:17pm
Subject: RE: Rick Beer rebuild fund
Tom,
After you open the account at BofA we can just deposit the money in to
the account correct. Or I can send you a check for Rick.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: tom lafrance [mailto:tlafrance@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:12 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Rick Beer rebuild fund
Hello all,
I've not yet gotten to BofA to open the acct, but my PayPal acct online
sure is growing. So far we have over $110.00 donated by generous,
caring
individuals.
I figure if the club can organize to help an entire community that it
doesn't even know (fire run), we SHOULD be able to collect enough to
help
one of our own get back on the trail. Skip that extra 12 pack this
weekend and donate to help Rick out of this mess.
Any vendors who care to contribute to this project, NOW is the time to
speak up!
Tom LaFrance
PayPay to tlafrance@j...
"Rick Beer rebuild fund" in notes
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63956 From: joseph2779 <Joseph2779@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:40pm
Subject: "Tag... your it!!!!"
I tagged a lifted yellow YJ over here in the west valley. I finally
got the tag off of my hands since I got it on the road from Crown
King back to the highway last Saturday. First time running the
anniversary Crown King Run with the Group, and it was awesome. I am
still not sure who tagged me out of the pack of Jeeps I was traveling
with, but I am thinking it was Sharky! But of course I could be
wrong. I tried to find someone in the east valley, but had no luck.
Well Mr. Yellow YJ... good luck in taking care of that tag.
Joe Bruce (93YJ)
63957 From: mt_b <mt_b@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:50pm
Subject: *Another" shameless plug for Hunter Off Road
Just wanted to give some props to John for some awesome work on
tubeage for my rocker guards.
BTW, I finally had the oppurtunity to be very abusive on my tube
fenders/winchplate/bumper on Armageddon this weekend, as as expected,
they held up without a hint of flex or any breakage.
Dan
63958 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:52pm
Subject: Re: Old Diff Covers laying around
Speaking of which, anyone have a spare D44 one laying around?
Chris
On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 07:47 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
> Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you
> can
> have. Let me know if you want it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
>
>
> Just wandering
> Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
> I would pay almost nothing for them?
>
> The question is not
> "If you pick your nose"
> but
> "Where you put the booger"
>
> Sincerely: JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
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63959 From: <chaton602@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:55pm
Subject: Re: "Tag... your it!!!!"
It wasn't Sharky!!! :)
Anthony Celaya
63960 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Old Diff Covers laying around
I've got a nice pretty stainless/chrome one I would let you have real cheap
;-)
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8
Chris Krieg wrote:
> Speaking of which, anyone have a spare D44 one laying around?
>
> Chris
>
> On Thursday, August 22, 2002, at 07:47 PM, Siade, Randy wrote:
>
> > Did you get your d30 cover? If not I just found one laying around you
> > can
> > have. Let me know if you want it.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeepthang87yj [mailto:jeep_thang@h...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:18 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Old Diff Covers laying around
> >
> >
> > Just wandering
> > Does anybody have any old diff covers laying around for a D30 or D35.
> > I would pay almost nothing for them?
> >
> > The question is not
> > "If you pick your nose"
> > but
> > "Where you put the booger"
> >
> > Sincerely: JEEP THANG
> > Larry, Carmen and Lil Em
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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63961 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 9:19pm
Subject: [FS] 4 new BFG 31-10.5 All-terrain KO mounted on 8x15 Eagle Outlaw rims
Price: $600.00 obo
Contact: Call Pat after 7:00pm Monday throu Sunday
Fits jeep 5x4.5 bolt pattern,18mm offset.
Patrick Neveau