PDA

View Full Version : Yahoo Messages: 63712-63736


blooddrive
01-05-2004, 10:30 PM
63712-63736

63712 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Revolvr's Jeep TJ Web Site is Moving


Long time no "see" Dan. Welcome back!

Chris Krieg

On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 08:08 PM, weed_d wrote:

> Over the last few years I've had over 10,000 hits at my TJ Web site
> at "members.aol.com/revolvr"
>
> This site has lots of good stuff on preparing your TJ for off-
> roading, especially for relative newbies. It also has good info for
> some of the trails in Arizona.
>
> This site is moving immediately to:
>
> members.cox.net/revolvr
>
> There will be no notice or redirection at the AOL site. This is
> because in order to update the site, I need AOL client software
> loaded on my home PC, even if I use a third party FTP client. I don't
> have AOL loaded nor care to load it.
>
> Happy trails!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@c...
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


ADVERTISEMENT




63713 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:31pm
Subject: RE: Re: AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ


Joe can also take the fluid in and have it tested. That will give him
some data in his case.

Scott K

-----Original Message-----
From: brent_lizakowski [mailto:brent_lizakowski@h...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:45 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ


Actually, I believe that the fluid is supposed to be rated GL-3.
Regardless, there is a mistake on DC's part as to what fluid should
be in the tranny.

I first read about this problem a while back on JU. I was running the
Mobil-1 in my tranny for about six months. After I read about the
damage the sulfur content in the Mobil-1 causes on the brass
synchros, I immediately changed. I wanted to stick with a synthetic,
and had to settle with Red Line MT-90 which is a GL-4 rated fluid.
Even though it's still not the GL-3 rated fluid as actually
recommended by DC, Red Line claims that there is no sulfur added to
the fluid and that it won't harm the synchros.

Joe, have you drained the fluid out of your tranny yet? When you do,
be sure to keep it. Drain it and then put it into a clear container.
I found something most interesting when I drained mine. I had it in a
milk jug and after it sat in my garage for a few hours, there was
quite a bit of brassy looking particulate that accumulated at the
bottom of the jug. This is definitely something that can help you in
your case against DC should you pursue that route.

Also, Joe, if you're looking for a deal on a new NV4500 check out JB
Conversion's site. It seems like a heck of a deal on the whole
package:

http://www.jbconversions.com/pages/nv4500/pkg6.html

Brent



--- In az_vjc@y..., Jonathan Moore <jm9n@u...> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> The manual stating the use of GL-5 rated fluid is a misprint. The
AX-15 is
> to use GL-4 rated fluid. If you did go by you manual I think that
DC needs
> to pony up. I will look for the info talking about the misprint.
Just so
> you know, AutoZone's computer also states the use of GL-5. I told
them that
> it was incorrect and they didn't seem to care. I had similar
problems with
> my trans to what you are stating. Others suggested looking at the
Clutch
> Master Cylinder for leaks or low fluid levels. But that shouldn't
be the
> case since the other gears work fine. Mine synchos went bad on 2
and 3.
> Couldn't down shift and double clutching didn't work.
>
> Jonathan
>
> At 03:27 PM 8/17/02 -0700, Joe W wrote:
> >Hi Fred,
> >
> >The Mobile 1 synthetic I am using is GL-5 rated. The owner's
manual for my
> >TJ says to use GL-5 lubricant so if indeed my syncros are shot,
I'll be
> >headed off to Darner Chrysler next week to protest. If DC doesn't
want to
> >replace my transmission, then I'll take them to court and use the
money to
> >purchase an NV4500.
> >
> >I'm looking at a 5.61:1 first gear Dodge 23 spline 4wd NV4500...
thanks for
> >your offer... I may take you up on it as a temporary solution...
email
> >arizonajeep@c... with your asking price.
> >
> >Kind Regards,
> >
> >Joe
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: FredTJ [mailto:fredtj@c...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 2:28 PM
> > > To: joe.west@s...; Azvjc (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > Joe, the use of synthetic, in itself, won't damage anything in the

> > > tranny, no more than running dino juice. This is assuming that you
> > > are running a
> > > GL-3 or GL-4 rated synthetic. A GL-5 rated synthetic will
> > > cause the same
> > > damage as a GL-5 dino juice lube will. The people at Redline
> > > can fill you in
> > > on exactly whats needed for the '98 AX-15 (and I believe '97.
> > > I think the DC
> > > fixed the problem with the syncros in '99 or '00 for sure). I
> > > can't remember
> > > for sure, but way back in a near dead brain cell, is a dusty
> > > sign that I
> > > think says that Mobil 1 is a GL-5.
> > > It's interesting that it happened so sudden, if in fact it is
> > > the syncros.
> > > They normally will just wear abnormally fast, with the wrong
lube, and
> > > you'll know that they are going, as you'll start getting a lot of
> > > grinding, going into gear, that gets worse as time goes on.
> > > Anyway, I truely sorry to hear of your problem. Let me know
> > > when/if you find
> > > out what it is for sure.
> > > Bad timing, to try and push something, but, depending on the
> > > cost to repair
> > > yours, keep in mind that I do have a AX-15 out of my '98 TJ
> > > that's available
> > > for a small handful of loose coins ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Fred
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > > To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@y...>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:14 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Gang,
> > > >
> > > > On my way back from a meeting with Doug Ballard today... I
had an
> > > > interesting problem.
> > > >
> > > > I started out in first gear as normal and when I went to
shift into
> > > second,
> > > > it would not go into second for anything.
> > > > I tried to go back into first since the shift to second had
> > > taken so long
> > > > that I was plenty slow to go back into first... but it
> > > wouldn't go into
> > > > first either... so I went into third which worked. After I
> > > built up a
> > > > little speed, I tried to go into second and once again...
> > > try after try it
> > > > would not go into second. I stopped and tried to go into
> > > first and second
> > > > and finally, after playing with it for 30 seconds it went
> > > into first. I
> > > > started out and it shifted into second with some
> > > difficulty... third and
> > > > fourth are smooth.
> > > >
> > > > All the way home, I could get it into first and second with
some
> > > difficulty
> > > > and sometimes multiple tries... third, fourth, and fifth
> > > gear work fine.
> > > >
> > > > Shifting into first and second... I can "feel" that
> > > something is wrong...
> > > > things just don't feel normal in the first and second
> > > shift. I've never
> > > had
> > > > any indication of a problem before and this problem
> > > happened virtually
> > > > instantly... one minute everything works fine and the next
> > > I can't get it
> > > > into first or second... and now first and second seem to
> > > work but roughly.
> > > >
> > > > I have used Synthetic mobile 1 in the transmission since
> > > new... and I
> > > > believe that there may be a problem using Synthetic in an
> > > AX-15 because
> > > > additives may ruin the syncros... this problem feels just
> > > like a syncro
> > > > problem, but I wouldn't expect syncros to fail instantly...
> > > I would expect
> > > > that a syncro failure would be a slow degradation in shift
> > > smoothness into
> > > a
> > > > particular gear.
> > > >
> > > > I'm curious if anyone has either had a similar experience
> > > or perhaps we
> > > have
> > > > some manual transmission experts who might be able to offer
> > > some thoughts
> > > as
> > > > to my problem. For now, I'll assume that I have destroyed
> > > my syncros
> > > using
> > > > synthetic transmission fluid.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Joe West
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


63714 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:34pm
Subject: [FS] Stock YJ rear windows


Price: 30.00 obo

Contact: Brandon Parvin (HornzDotNet)

These are the stock side windows for the jeep YJ. I ad my back window slashed and had to buy a new set. These are only the side windows. They are a little bit scratched, but have many fold marks. They may be good for offroading windows. I have some pics of when they were on my jeep. Email me for a few if you want to see them. Make me an offer.

Brandon Parvin


63715 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:41pm
Subject: Fw: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock



----- Original Message -----
From: TRobertsRN
To: AZ_FSJA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock


I believe liquids do boil at lower temperatures at higher altitudes. I seem to remember this being a problem when Chuck Yeager and others were trying to break the sound barrier. One pilot thought he was smelling coffee, but it was the sound of boiling fuel that made his mind think of coffee. This is also a problem when making something like spaghetti at altitude when camping because the water comes to a boil at a lower temp and the noodles don't get cooked well. I also know that to "boil" out all the water in an A/C system when doing repair that a vacuumed pump is used. It think Joe West at the AZ VJC may be able to explain this better and likely longer LOL.

Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona


----- Original Message -----
From: ralph.rogers@philips.com
To: AZ_FSJA@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock


Any of you here in AZ have the problems of vapor lock and overheating the
guys in CO do? I have never had those problems, even in the middle of
summer running around. Could it be related to altitude? Although I've also
never had those problems up north either.
Ralph





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Yahoo! Groups Sponsor


To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
AZ_FSJA-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
AZ_FSJA-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



63716 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:39pm
Subject: RE: K&N Filter question


I'm using a K&N cone filter to filter the incoming air on my ventilation
system. I've never had the inside of the TJ stay so dust free. I can
pull outside air into the Jeep even in the dustiest of conditions such
as following a group of Jeeps and there is no apparent dust coming into
the cabin.

I also run a flat panel K&N on the intake for the engine. It works well.
Don't expect any noticable power increases though.

Scott K

-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 2:20 PM
To: 'Rick Norman'; 'zj_lopez'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] K&N Filter question


I have noticed that for the K&N to allow for the increased air flow it
has larger pores. Larger pores equal larger particulates entering the
engine. I have heard people talking about using vacuum bags or the like
to help the filter but then you are back to the same as a regular Fram
filter. Joey K 93YJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Norman [mailto:4x4xfun1@c...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:41 PM
To: zj_lopez; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] K&N Filter question


I run the K&N filter in my jeep and my toyota work truck. The
performance gains are, IMO, minimal (every little bit helps, though).
The best thing about the K&N is how long they last. The same filter now
in my 98 Toyota was also in my 94 Toy and in my 89 Toyota 4x4. This
filter now has about 240,000 miles on it. It cleans up good as new
every time I clean it. Just re-oil it and go.

With most air filters running 10-20 bucks, it will pay for itself in no
time, especially if you spend a lot of time offroad.

Rick
XTRM XJ

-----Original Message-----
From: zj_lopez [mailto:off-road@c...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:45 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] K&N Filter question


I'm looking at getting a K&N filter for my ZJ (V8), does it really make
a difference in performance/mileage?. All comments/suggestions are
appreciated. - Jose




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/







Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/





Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


63717 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:45pm
Subject: RE: Latest mods completed/tested


Dion,

Looks good. Is that the first trail test? If so that's one heck of a
shakedown run!

Scott K

-----Original Message-----
From: dionbozman [mailto:amstaff@e...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:38 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Latest mods completed/tested


Hi all: I don't post as much anymore, but I wanted to let anyone who
was interested know that I finally completed my latest large round of
mods to my rockcrawler YJ. Quickly:

-- Dana 60 rear, spool, 5.13 gears, double-sheared traction bar
-- Dana 60 front, Detroit, 5.13 gears, custom arms with tie rod behind
axle. 1-ton TREs. Ground brakes to fit 15-inch wheels. Axle shortened
to 66 inches.
-- 38.5 x14.50 SX
-- Beard seats built into cage
-- Waggoneer springs for extended wheelbase

Most of the credit goes to my friend Blake Van de Loo, who
masterminded the entire thing and did nearly all the fabrication. Have
had it out on two test runs and it works like a champ. The steering is
particularly trick and I've got half a steering arm with nothing on
it, waiting to plumb a ram assist. The best part? With 5 pounds of
air, I can just fit in the garage. The outside track width is just 80
inches, so it fits on the trails and on my trailer, which is nice.

Also, I recently moved to Gilbert (Val Vista and Elliot), so if you
see an OD green YJ creeping around, stop and say hi.

This link should provide some pics if you want to check it out:
http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1027351&uid=640442&
members=1
Dion





Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


63718 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:46pm
Subject: RE: A BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONE


ROTFLMAO


-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:37 PM
To: Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] A BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONE


Poor guy. He gets in a serious accident and then Sharky goes and
threatens him.

:-)

Chris

> From: sharxjeep@c...
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 20:07:40 EDT
> To: RIKNAZ@M..., AZ_VJC@YAHOOGROUPS.COM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] A BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONE
>
> Rick...I always have an open seat for ya...
>
> Sharky
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


63719 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:47pm
Subject: Re: K&N Filter question


Scott,
How did you do this?

On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 08:39 PM, Scott Kruize wrote:

> I'm using a K&N cone filter to filter the incoming air on my
> ventilation
> system. I've never had the inside of the TJ stay so dust free. I can
> pull outside air into the Jeep even in the dustiest of conditions such
> as following a group of Jeeps and there is no apparent dust coming into
> the cabin.


63720 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 8:58pm
Subject: RE: K&N Filter question


Chris,

Here's a pic of the finished product for the group to see. I'll email
you some more pics.

Scott K



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@mac.com]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:47 PM
To: Scott Kruize
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] K&N Filter question


Scott,
How did you do this?

On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 08:39 PM, Scott Kruize wrote:

> I'm using a K&N cone filter to filter the incoming air on my
> ventilation
> system. I've never had the inside of the TJ stay so dust free. I can
> pull outside air into the Jeep even in the dustiest of conditions such
> as following a group of Jeeps and there is no apparent dust coming
into
> the cabin.




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) IMG_1631.JPG [not stored]

63721 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:00pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock


One thing I noticed on the fuel filter to the J20 (360 2V) is, the
fuel filter has a return line on it. The fuel filter is loctaced near
the carberator. The return line coming off the fuel filter goes all
the way back to the tank. Thus, when the fuel pressure is not being
used by the carberator the fuel returns to the tank, creating a loop
and not allowing the fuel to get hot or boil.
I would imagine this is a stock setup. If a person was to get a fuel
filter for a '79 J20 360 2V it would probably have this fitting on
it. Then if you have a return line on your fuel pump, you might be
able to block that off and extend the return line from the fuel pump
up to the fuel filter.
If on the otherhand, you already have one of these fuel filters there
should be some sort of plate you could put between the intake
manifold and the carb to help disapate the heat a bit more.

I hope this helps.

--James

--- In az_vjc@y..., "TRobertsRN" <TRobertsRN@e...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TRobertsRN
> To: AZ_FSJA@y...
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock
>
>
> I believe liquids do boil at lower temperatures at higher
altitudes. I seem to remember this being a problem when Chuck Yeager
and others were trying to break the sound barrier. One pilot thought
he was smelling coffee, but it was the sound of boiling fuel that
made his mind think of coffee. This is also a problem when making
something like spaghetti at altitude when camping because the water
comes to a boil at a lower temp and the noodles don't get cooked
well. I also know that to "boil" out all the water in an A/C system
when doing repair that a vacuumed pump is used. It think Joe West at
the AZ VJC may be able to explain this better and likely longer LOL.
>
> Thomas Roberts
> 78 Cherokee WT
> 360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
> A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
> Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
> Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
> Gilbert, Arizona
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ralph.rogers@p...
> To: AZ_FSJA@y...
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:49 AM
> Subject: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock
>
>
> Any of you here in AZ have the problems of vapor lock and
overheating the
> guys in CO do? I have never had those problems, even in the
middle of
> summer running around. Could it be related to altitude? Although
I've also
> never had those problems up north either.
> Ralph
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> AZ_FSJA-unsubscribe@y...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of
Service.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor
> ADVERTISEMENT
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> AZ_FSJA-unsubscribe@y...
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


63722 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:06pm
Subject: Re: K&N Filter question


Very cool Scott! I'm going to have to do this some time.

Chris

On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 08:58 PM, Scott Kruize wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Here's a pic of the finished product for the group to see. I'll email
> you some more pics.
>
> Scott K
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:47 PM
> To: Scott Kruize
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] K&N Filter question
>
>
> Scott,
> How did you do this?
>
> On Monday, August 19, 2002, at 08:39 PM, Scott Kruize wrote:
>
>> I'm using a K&N cone filter to filter the incoming air on my
>> ventilation
>> system. I've never had the inside of the TJ stay so dust free. I can
>> pull outside air into the Jeep even in the dustiest of conditions such
>> as following a group of Jeeps and there is no apparent dust coming
> into
>> the cabin.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
> <IMG_1631.JPG>


63723 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 5:08pm
Subject: Re: airial photos of group #2 on the CK run


Great pictures Stu! This was my first run with the AZVJC unless you count the Easter Safari. It was great seeing you again and meeting other members. Can't wait to make another AZVJC run!

Steven Campbell

63724 From: AzVJC Website <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:22pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Lake Pleasant to Crown King - Saturday, August 17, 2002


Hello All,

Leonard Pennock lead a trail run Saturday, August 17, 2002 across Lake Pleasant to Crown King

I took over the lead of this trip from Len Sullivan. It was to Len's credit that even though he was having over heating problems that he limped to the meeting place to let people know the he could not lead.



We had a nice assortment of Jeeps for this run. There was a mostly stock ZJ limited and a TJ. There was a slightly lifted and rear locked ZJ, and a nicely lifted Open XJ. There was a Lifted TJ with F&R; TrueTracs and myself with a F&R; locked Lifted XJ. We also can't forget that we also had a bone stock Liberty.



We got started a little late but headed off for the first obstacle. Everyone was given the oppurtunity to play on every obstacle. I believe that 3 people besides my self tried the first obstacle. Alvin with a 249 Transfer case found out that even with a rear locker the 249 won't go if one front wheel has no traction. Kept mumbling something about needing a 242 transfer case.



We continued on towards Ft. Misery taking time to allow anyone that wanted to play on each obstacle. At Ft. Misery we had lunch and again did some playing. Some of the people made comments that all I needed was a JATO bottle on my XJ and they could use it for a bottle rocket. Something about standing it almost on the back bumper. Unless someone produces photos I deny it completely.



Just before we got to the step we had our first real break down. Sharyl and Janet decided it was time for a road hazard warrenty on one of their BFG-AT with a hole in the inside side wall. After changing the tire we headed for the step but not before Scott's noon group caught up with us. Never saw so many Bananas on the trail at one time before.



The Liberty was the second Jeep to try the step and made it on the second pass with no assitance at all. Guess CK run is now offically a 2.5. (Told them I was going to say this.)

We had one Jeep require strapping on the step.



About half way up the hill we stopped and let Scotts group pass us since we were needing to go kind of slow with the stock height Jeeps on the rocks and also had the strapping happening on the step.



We pulled in Crown King around 4pm and had some good times seeing people we hadn't seen in a while, along with meeting new people. Not to mention that the beer was pretty good after a long day on the trail.





Click Here to View Pictures (if available)

Thank You,

- The AzVJC Website


63725 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 9:37pm
Subject: Re: A BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONE


Oh crap.. Did I jinx you when I sent that e-mail out last week about you not being in AZVJC anymore? Wow! Everybody beware!

I say your in! God bless Rick!

Nick Gasmena

~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~

Nick Gasmena - nickg@4x4jeep.net
-----------------------
Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial Freedom!
Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
-----------------------
My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
----- Original Message -----
From: RICK BEER
To: JEEP
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:07 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] A BIG THANKS FOR EVERYONE


Hello everyone just wanted to say THANK YOU for all the e-mails phone calls & even all the prayers that me & my family received over the weekend

this is the best group of caring giving people that I have ever came across I had e-mails from folks that I never met saying there prayers for me & my family just because of everyone in this wonderful club we call the AZVJC I cant even put the words together on how me & my family feels


Ps. since I don't have a jeep anymore can I still be apart of this wonderful jeep club
THANKS RICK BEER

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com




63726 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 19, 2002 10:39pm
Subject: Re: Re: AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ


The reason fith went first is because it is the last gear in the cluster
and the other gears don't really have any where to go if thier retaining
clips fail. The c clips are know for breaking and If I remember right the
clips are like 7 to 10 bucks and have to be the exact thickness or you'll
only grab that gear every once in a while..

Joe, Maybe your shift rail is bent and you aren't getting a complete mesh
when trying to get it into gear..
If you need a hand pulling and taking it apart let me know, I have been
working on my muscles lately helping Scott and Scott on thier trannys and
Transfer cases :)

Take care
Dave


>From: "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>CC: joe.west@s...
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ
>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 07:56:45 -0700
>
>Joe,
>
>I'm not very well versed in the AX-15 (I'm a 2-pedal Jeep guy, myself!),
>but a somewhat similar issue was recently discussed on a another forum I
>frequent.
>
>A YJ owner was having trouble getting 5th gear, and many people offered
>that there are are little c-clips separating and positioning the gears in
>the AX-15. Apparently, it's kind of common for these clips to break, which
>causes the gear(s) to slip slightly out of their intended location. This
>in turn makes it difficult/impossible to engage the affected gear.
>
>However, everyone seemed to say that this wanted to happen to the higher
>gears (ie. 5th) first. And it was evidenced more by gear grinding while
>trying to engage the gear than difficulty in even getting the gear. At
>least if you get the tranny pulled and opened up, a busted c-clip SHOULD be
>easy to find, eh?
>
>Good luck,
>Tom
>
>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
> > > > > > To: "Azvjc (E-mail)" <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 12:14 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] AX-15 problems on my 98 TJ
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Gang,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On my way back from a meeting with Doug Ballard
> > today... I had
> > > > an
> > > > > > > interesting problem.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I started out in first gear as normal and when I
> > went to shift
> > > > into
> > > > > > second,
> > > > > > > it would not go into second for anything.
> > > > > > > I tried to go back into first since the shift to second had
> > > > > > taken so long
> > > > > > > that I was plenty slow to go back into first... but it
> > > > > > wouldn't go into
> > > > > > > first either... so I went into third which worked. After I
> > > > > > built up a
> > > > > > > little speed, I tried to go into second and once again...
> > > > > > try after try it
> > > > > > > would not go into second. I stopped and tried to go into
> > > > > > first and second
> > > > > > > and finally, after playing with it for 30 seconds it went
> > > > > > into first. I
> > > > > > > started out and it shifted into second with some
> > > > > > difficulty... third and
> > > > > > > fourth are smooth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > All the way home, I could get it into first and second with
> > > > some
> > > > > > difficulty
> > > > > > > and sometimes multiple tries... third, fourth, and fifth
> > > > > > gear work fine.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shifting into first and second... I can "feel" that
> > > > > > something is wrong...
> > > > > > > things just don't feel normal in the first and second
> > > > > > shift. I've never
> > > > > > had
> > > > > > > any indication of a problem before and this problem
> > > > > > happened virtually
> > > > > > > instantly... one minute everything works fine and the next
> > > > > > I can't get it
> > > > > > > into first or second... and now first and second seem to
> > > > > > work but roughly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have used Synthetic mobile 1 in the transmission since
> > > > > > new... and I
> > > > > > > believe that there may be a problem using Synthetic in an
> > > > > > AX-15 because
> > > > > > > additives may ruin the syncros... this problem feels just
> > > > > > like a syncro
> > > > > > > problem, but I wouldn't expect syncros to fail instantly...
> > > > > > I would expect
> > > > > > > that a syncro failure would be a slow degradation in shift
> > > > > > smoothness into
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > particular gear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm curious if anyone has either had a similar experience
> > > > > > or perhaps we
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > some manual transmission experts who might be able to offer
> > > > > > some thoughts
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > to my problem. For now, I'll assume that I have destroyed
> > > > > > my syncros
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > > synthetic transmission fluid.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joe West
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




__________________________________________________ _______________
MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos:
http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx


63727 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 1:34am
Subject: electrical HELP, dim lights and others


Cherokee is running after piston rings and valve job, but I have some electrical issues. Starts, runs, but head and tail lights are dim, A/C blows cold but weak, won't restart after a drive. Even if just the lights are on they are dim and if just the A/C is running blows weak. Lights get dimmer when A/C turned on. Battery (optima red top couple of years old) was discharged, jumped, and recharged more times than I want to remember during trouble shooting of why wouldn't start (ending up being timing issue). If it is running and you disconnect the battery it continues to run and the lights get bright, haven't checked to see if the A/C blow strong with battery disconnected (battery currently on charger). Have I abused my battery such that I need a new one or do I have the pleasure (LOL) of looking for an electrical problem else where?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
Gilbert, Arizona




63728 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 4:48am
Subject: Re: electrical HELP, dim lights and others


Possibly some dead cells in the batt.
Take it over to Checker in the morning and have them load test it.

Take care
Dave

>From: "TRobertsRN" <TRobertsRN@e...>
>To:
><FSJ-List@yahoogroups.com>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>,<AZ_FSJA@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] electrical HELP, dim lights and others
>Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 01:34:10 -0700
>
>Cherokee is running after piston rings and valve job, but I have some
>electrical issues. Starts, runs, but head and tail lights are dim, A/C
>blows cold but weak, won't restart after a drive. Even if just the lights
>are on they are dim and if just the A/C is running blows weak. Lights get
>dimmer when A/C turned on. Battery (optima red top couple of years old)
>was discharged, jumped, and recharged more times than I want to remember
>during trouble shooting of why wouldn't start (ending up being timing
>issue). If it is running and you disconnect the battery it continues to
>run and the lights get bright, haven't checked to see if the A/C blow
>strong with battery disconnected (battery currently on charger). Have I
>abused my battery such that I need a new one or do I have the pleasure
>(LOL) of looking for an electrical problem else where?
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
>Thomas Roberts
>78 Cherokee WT
>360 bored 030 over,TH400, part time kit,
>A/C, 3" lift, 33x12.5 AT'S
>Schedule 40 pipe bumpers with receiver hitches
>Schedule 40 pipe full roll cage
>Gilbert, Arizona
>
>




__________________________________________________ _______________
Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com


63729 From: trobertsrn <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 5:08am
Subject: not getting emails again


I am getting nothing from the yahoo groups I am a member of. Also
not even getting messages I am sending to myself to test. I am able
to read and send messages on the group site. And it appears I can
send messages to the groups from my email. I have outlook express
with MSN.

PLEASE HELP


63730 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 6:18am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock


James:

Most of the FSJ had the return setup (don't really know the years) but,
yes, as long as they use it, they shouldn't have a problem. A lot of
them don't use the return line for some reason unknown to me. Even so,
I have a lot of pressure build up in the fuel tank that the pressure
relieve cap couldn't cope with. If I removed the fuel cap the gas would
explode (perhaps a poor choice of words) out of the filler neck. I
could hear it bubbling.

The filter is available from Auto Zone and I carry a few spares from
when I had a carb installed. (I carry the carb and elec. fuel pump as
trail spares.) Locate the return outlet up for best return of vapor to
the tank.

Gary Holmes

jetowle2000 wrote:

>One thing I noticed on the fuel filter to the J20 (360 2V) is, the
>fuel filter has a return line on it. The fuel filter is loctaced near
>the carberator. The return line coming off the fuel filter goes all
>the way back to the tank. Thus, when the fuel pressure is not being
>used by the carberator the fuel returns to the tank, creating a loop
>and not allowing the fuel to get hot or boil.
>I would imagine this is a stock setup. If a person was to get a fuel
>filter for a '79 J20 360 2V it would probably have this fitting on
>it. Then if you have a return line on your fuel pump, you might be
>able to block that off and extend the return line from the fuel pump
>up to the fuel filter.
>If on the otherhand, you already have one of these fuel filters there
>should be some sort of plate you could put between the intake
>manifold and the carb to help disapate the heat a bit more.
>
>I hope this helps.
>
>--James
>


63731 From: Siade, Randy non Unisys <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 7:29am
Subject: RE: Lock Right Install Questions


1. Yes
2. Gear Oil
3. A spindle nut wrench. You can do it with a screw driver and hammer but it
will be much easer with a spindle nut wrench.
4. No
5. There is no thrush washer

Tips.

1. Replace your hub bolts with studs and nuts and Lock tight them as the CJ
D30 is famous for these bolts coming loose.

2. If you do any hard core wheelin carry spare axels as you will brake axels
with the lock right in the front.

3. You will have a very hard time turning with the front locked. When
turning on hard rocks take you time and do not make sharp turns. Do the
forward and reverse wiggle to get around tight spots. If you try to take a
tight turn on hard rock you can easily brake an axel.

I ran a lock right in my 82 CJ with the D30 for about 2 years and I broke 3
axels. I broke them on trails rated from 4.0 to 4.5+. I got tired of braking
them and went to a D44 with alloy axels and have not broken one since.

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Peck [mailto:rlpii@q...]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:46 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Lock Right Install Questions


Any help would be appreciated:

I am getting ready to install a Lock Right Locker in the
front of my 74 CJ-5, with a Dana 30, and I have a couple of
questions:

1. Do I need to get the Performance Cross Shaft? (I have
a 360 V-8 with 33 X 12.50's and 3.73 Gears)

2. Beside the Differential Gasket, what other
parts/gaskets will I need?

3. To get the axles out, will I need any special tools?
(I have normal hand tools, impact wrenches, and air tools).

4. Do the axles have "C" Clips?

5. Should I replace the thrust washers?

6. I am planning on doing this on Saturday (August 24) in
the morning, and I am on the West Side near 59th Ave. and
Peoria, if anyone wants to stop by and supervise. Never
done any axle work before.

TIA
Bob
74 CJ-5
CANT W8





Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


63732 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 7:57am
Subject: Test, no need to read


Test @ 7:57





63733 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:17am
Subject: Re: Lock Right Install Questions


Robert,
Good luck with your install, I would really like to be there to help/watch
as I will be doing the same install, but I have to work on Sat.
Let us know how it goes!!

Shawn Passmore
jeepcj5nut

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Peck" <rlpii@q...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 6:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lock Right Install Questions


> Any help would be appreciated:
>
> I am getting ready to install a Lock Right Locker in the
> front of my 74 CJ-5, with a Dana 30, and I have a couple of
> questions:
>
> 1. Do I need to get the Performance Cross Shaft? (I have
> a 360 V-8 with 33 X 12.50's and 3.73 Gears)
>
> 2. Beside the Differential Gasket, what other
> parts/gaskets will I need?
>
> 3. To get the axles out, will I need any special tools?
> (I have normal hand tools, impact wrenches, and air tools).
>
> 4. Do the axles have "C" Clips?
>
> 5. Should I replace the thrust washers?
>
> 6. I am planning on doing this on Saturday (August 24) in
> the morning, and I am on the West Side near 59th Ave. and
> Peoria, if anyone wants to stop by and supervise. Never
> done any axle work before.
>
> TIA
> Bob
> 74 CJ-5
> CANT W8
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


63734 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:19am
Subject: Re: Looking for pictures for my website


John or Mike,
So fill in the rest of us who were unable to attend the run this weekend!!!
Wow 5 children in one weekend!

Shawn
jeepcj5nut
----- Original Message -----
From: hunteroffroad@aol.com
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for pictures for my website


Hey Gang,
I have a big favor to ask. There are few of you out there that I have worked your jeeps and I know some of you have pictures of my work. And some of you are great shudder bugs and have pictures of other jeeps I have worked on. Doesnt matter if it was a rollcage or bracket. The only thing is I need it JPEG format and in preferable 480-600 pix size that would be great. The pictures will be posted for the all world to see on my web page in my "Products section." All pic should be posted my the end of the week. If I can get a couple , it would mean alot to me.

Thank you everyone. I truly appreciate it. Have a good day.

Best Regards
John "Hunter" Kanicsar


P.S. For those of you that dont know, I was marreid over the weekend up in Crown King and I also fathered 5 children too. If you dont belive me, just ask Mike Chatfeild. I imagine he would love to tell the story, he was there along with other witnesses that I shall leave nameless.
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



63735 From: Darren Richards <r50880@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:26am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: [AZ_FSJA] vapor lock


I have the 360 from a FSJ in my CJ, and for years I had a terrible
problem with vapor lock any time the temperature outside was over about
85 degrees. The filter with the return line helped the problem, but
didn't eliminate it. I installed an electric fuel pump, insulated the
fuel lines, installed a heat shield between the carb and the manifold,
but all to no avail. Finally, re-routing the fuel lines on the outside
of the frame away from the exhaust fixed the problem...

-darren

Gary Holmes wrote:
>
> James:
>
> Most of the FSJ had the return setup (don't really know the years) but,
> yes, as long as they use it, they shouldn't have a problem. A lot of
> them don't use the return line for some reason unknown to me. Even so,
> I have a lot of pressure build up in the fuel tank that the pressure
> relieve cap couldn't cope with. If I removed the fuel cap the gas would
> explode (perhaps a poor choice of words) out of the filler neck. I
> could hear it bubbling.
>
> The filter is available from Auto Zone and I carry a few spares from
> when I had a carb installed. (I carry the carb and elec. fuel pump as
> trail spares.) Locate the return outlet up for best return of vapor to
> the tank.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> jetowle2000 wrote:
>
> >One thing I noticed on the fuel filter to the J20 (360 2V) is, the
> >fuel filter has a return line on it. The fuel filter is loctaced near
> >the carberator. The return line coming off the fuel filter goes all
> >the way back to the tank. Thus, when the fuel pressure is not being
> >used by the carberator the fuel returns to the tank, creating a loop
> >and not allowing the fuel to get hot or boil.
> >I would imagine this is a stock setup. If a person was to get a fuel
> >filter for a '79 J20 360 2V it would probably have this fitting on
> >it. Then if you have a return line on your fuel pump, you might be
> >able to block that off and extend the return line from the fuel pump
> >up to the fuel filter.
> >If on the otherhand, you already have one of these fuel filters there
> >should be some sort of plate you could put between the intake
> >manifold and the carb to help disapate the heat a bit more.
> >
> >I hope this helps.
> >
> >--James
> >
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

--
Darren Richards
Motorola SPS
Advanced Technology Integration Center
phone: 480.413.6013


63736 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 8:32am
Subject: Re: airial photos of group #2 on the CK run


So, Stu, did you chuck any timber at the ledge?

-Roger

--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/others/photos-main.htm then click on
the
> AZVJC Anniversary Run link
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com