Who carries in places you are not really supposed to? [Archive]

lancetkenyon

12-09-2007, 01:16 PM

Please, do not post up responses like,"I do." I don't want to be responsible if you post up you technically break the law and get in trouble. This is a blind survey, no one will be able to see who does or does not. I just want numbers. I am just wondering how many people are actually carrying in the malls and such where it is a "no-no". This is a thread where you can voice your opinion openly on whether it is "responsible/acceptable" to bend/break a technical law. This only goes for PRIVATE PROPERTY. I am in no way condoning/encouraging or bashing/discouraging this act, just curious. Let the debates begin! I am sure we will hear from a few of our "regulars" on this subject.:argue:

GRUNT

12-09-2007, 03:36 PM

I do not carry where I am not supposed to. Although I think there are some places that post "No weapons" that are no big deal, I think they only do it due to liability sake... Yet it is private property, their decision.

TMR37

12-09-2007, 05:29 PM

I try not to carry where I'm not supposed to. Sometimes you look around and realize - "I'm not supposed to be carrying here".

The private places that have signs are only illegal if they ask you to leave. If you don't leave, then you are tresspassing.

The ones that I'm really aware of are places where it's truly illegal to carry - Gov't places, schools, and liquor serving establishments.

Phx Cobra

12-09-2007, 05:30 PM

Carry Always.

lancetkenyon

12-09-2007, 06:02 PM

TMR37

12-09-2007, 06:09 PM

Technically, the posting is asking you not to carry, you could be cited if caught. 99% of the time, they will just escort you out.

Right, I guess I didn't say that well. Thanks for clarifying for me. Also, since there is plausible deniability as to whether you ever noticed the posting, your chances of getting more than being asked to leave are slim. If you act like a jackass to the LEO, your chances raise exponentially.....

mingoglia

12-09-2007, 07:31 PM

Technically, the posting is asking you not to carry, you could be cited if caught. 99% of the time, they will just escort you out.

Actually you'll be cited if caught if you admit that you *saw* the sign and still carried a firearm in. Seeing the sign is the key here. Because of this I never read any signs on any doors when I walk in places. Then again my CCW expired a couple of years ago and haven't gotten around to taking the test again and I rarely carry openly unless I'm going to a gun show or range as I hate getting stared at.

lancetkenyon

12-10-2007, 06:41 AM

Also, "technically", the signs have to be on EVERY entrance to an establishment. I know of 1 door at Arrowhead Mall that does NOT have a sign on it.:whistling:

offroadaz

12-10-2007, 07:25 AM

what happens if you are caught carrying in a restricted area? Do you lose your CCW?

mingoglia

12-10-2007, 07:38 AM

what happens if you are caught carrying in a restricted area? Do you lose your CCW?

Well if the restricted area is a court, bar, or school you'll probably find yourself in a place that will help eliminate any constipation problems you may have. :osama:

TRLR8TDTJ

12-10-2007, 08:15 AM

Also, "technically", the signs have to be on EVERY entrance to an establishment. I know of 1 door at Arrowhead Mall that does NOT have a sign on it.:whistling:

If you didnt wheel at the mall so much you would not have to worry about carrying. Thanks for the head up on the missing sign.:whip:

Kyle

mingoglia

12-10-2007, 08:20 AM

If you didnt wheel at the mall so much you would not have to worry about carrying. Thanks for the head up on the missing sign.:whip:

Kyle
:smilielol5:

AZG23

12-10-2007, 11:29 PM

if its someplace that is indicated no carry and is stated in the AZ statute, criminal charges can be applied. (Court, school, etc.)

If its the mall, then its trespassing "if" you do not comply with the request to leave the premises.

Moriarty

12-11-2007, 11:35 AM

I carry everywhere except the govt buildings and such. Oh, and sporting event locations because once and awhile they actually give you a decent pat down and its a long walk back to the car at the start of a Suns game.

Bet that church in Colorado was glad they had extra plain clothes security
on hand. That gal is a hero. I never thought I would need to carry in church but I guess now thats another place I do.

Joe West

12-11-2007, 11:41 AM

I bet John P carries concealed in places he isn't supposed to!

:)

SavageSun4x4

12-11-2007, 11:51 AM

I bet John P carries concealed in places he isn't supposed to!

:)
yea but a turd in your back pocket does not count...unless its chrome :mickey:

AZG23

12-11-2007, 12:23 PM

yea but a turd in your back pocket does not count...unless its chrome :mickey:

the turd only shows up after he realizes he "should" have been carry....and it "would" have been a good idea "if" he had....

amber.hodge

12-11-2007, 01:30 PM

Ben carries most of the time...and if places don't want him to carry, then they should provide secure areas where he can store his weapon...he doesn't bring guns to bars if thats what this means...We both always have knives on us because you can take those anywhere for protection.

Duality

12-11-2007, 01:59 PM

does anyone carry to work? I know that is one thing I could never do as our security is pretty tight.

AZLugz

12-11-2007, 02:22 PM

I bet John P carries concealed in places he isn't supposed to!

:)

And I thot Lance was the Instagator!!! :laugh2:

TMR37

12-11-2007, 02:28 PM

does anyone carry to work? I know that is one thing I could never do as our security is pretty tight.

I can't - it's specifically against the law to have a firearm where I work.....

Sean K.

12-12-2007, 04:22 PM

I look at it as civil disobedience. I don't feel obligated to adhere to stupid laws. For example, having a CCW, I'm not supposed to carry into any establishment that serves alcohol. I don't drink. If I'm to be robbed or assaulted, it's very likely it will happen between my vehicle and the restaurant I'm visiting. Leaving my loaded weapon in my car smacks to me of irresponsiblity in that a car (especially my wife's nice one) is easily broken into and doubles in irresponsibility to my family should something happen between the car and the building. I don't think I could live with the guilt of being helpless if something were to happen and having one of my loved ones killed or injured and being powerless to stop it.

But....that's just me.

I carry pretty much everywhere except govt buildings, schools and the like.

Sean

desertrubi

12-12-2007, 04:39 PM

I don't carry to work either.

Duality, TMR37, where do you guys work?

I can't carry due to the security at work either. And since I am security there, it would be kind of embarrassing to get caught.

TMR37

12-12-2007, 06:33 PM

Duality, TMR37, where do you guys work?

Can't speak for Duality, but I work at Palo Verde.

AZG23

12-12-2007, 06:36 PM

but I work at Palo Verde.

thats just funny right there...ya'll will have to "do lunch"..:fashizzle:

fatboypup

12-12-2007, 06:56 PM

Bet that church in Colorado was glad they had extra plain clothes security
on hand. That gal is a hero. I never thought I would need to carry in church but I guess now thats another place I do.

they found out the guy shot himself and that was the cause of death her bullets hit after he took his own life :osama:

AZG23

12-12-2007, 07:07 PM

I always carry at church...with spare mags. You just never know

fatboypup

12-12-2007, 07:19 PM

I always carry at church...with spare mags. You just never know

Brad will cast out the demons with hot lead :angel:

CaptainMorgan

12-13-2007, 05:02 AM

I own guns...lots of 'em. But I dont carry all over the place. I figure I will just kick someones *** if they want to mug, rob or kill me. It has gotten me this far.

SavageSun4x4

12-13-2007, 09:09 AM

I own guns...lots of 'em. But I dont carry all over the place. I figure I will just kick someones *** if they want to mug, rob or kill me. It has gotten me this far.

LOL I have heard that before.

Many years ago I took a job working in a warehouse between semesters at college to earn some bucks. They had posted an ad on campus looking for vets and ROTC guys.

I was there about a week when the owners son a BIG and heavily decorated Green Beret, in between his 1st and 2nd tour in Nam came in to "manage" and help out dad for a few weeks while in town on leave. Being a Nam vet and a ROTC student I had got to know him and he and I would hit happy hour together fairly regular. Son was a Sgt and somewhat of a puffed-up attitude of I am bad I am the Green Beret.

The GB is like any other org in that there are all kinds of folks involved. Yes you need to be GB qualified BUT there are LOTS of GB schools and different focuses on the training you get. But MOST off all you need to understand the "Mission". There are only 2 groups of soldiers in the military that as individuals have the mission of "to close with and engage the enemy". This is the prime mission of the Infantry and with a bit of a stretch on the mission, also the domain of fighter pilots.

That said, the young Sgt was single and hitting the bar scene every nite in Dallas. He would come in about 10 or so every day, him and Dad go to lunch and he would leave out mid afternoon.

One day he didn't show and it was about 11 or so and I needed to talk with him on some warehouse issues. So I asked his dad and asked where he was. Dad said he would be in after lunch...well he showed up and looked like he had been hit in the face with a license plate nailed to the front of a Mack truck. He had got in a fight over some little Dallas Debbie the night before and some "little hippie lookin guy" had beat the living sheet out of him out in the parking lot.

It really did him some good and it sorta toned down his "I am bad" attitude.

John_P

12-13-2007, 01:11 PM

I bet John P carries concealed in places he isn't supposed to!

:)

Seriously, you guys mention my name so much, it is starting to get a bit weird...

Nice to see so many law-abiding gun owners...

mingoglia

12-13-2007, 02:02 PM

Seriously, you guys mention my name so much, it is starting to get a bit weird...

Nice to see so many law-abiding gun owners...

We're just trying to keep you safe John.

John_P

12-13-2007, 02:18 PM

We're just trying to keep you safe John.

LOL...:2guns:

Thanks cowboy, but I am just fine.

lancetkenyon

12-13-2007, 06:25 PM

It is about time. Took a while to tune in the "Don and John show"!

AZG23

12-13-2007, 08:12 PM

Nice to see so many law-abiding gun owners...

makes me feel all warm and stupid inside when you make comments like this John...

I guess you are Mr. Law abiding everything eh...Ill bet you "never"go even one mile per hour faster than the posted huh? And...I'll bet you always use your signal...? And I'll even venture to bet that you never follw to close in rush hour traffic eh...?? hmmm yeah...thats what I thought..pot, kettle, black...:rolleyes:

John_P

12-14-2007, 07:57 AM

SavageSun4x4

12-14-2007, 08:51 AM

makes me feel all warm and stupid inside when you make comments like this John...

I guess you are Mr. Law abiding everything eh...Ill bet you "never"go even one mile per hour faster than the posted huh? And...I'll bet you always use your signal...? And I'll even venture to bet that you never follw to close in rush hour traffic eh...?? hmmm yeah...thats what I thought..pot, kettle, black...:rolleyes:
You most likely said in jest, but just in case you didn't.

Johnny-boy is a a true liberal, not a wanna-be like a lot of others, but a real wallet sized card carry with Fo-t-o.

This means John does as he wants, violates as he sees fit and proclaims loudly "do as I say, don't do as I do". I am Kollege ProFessor therefore I am smarter than you, can make better decisions and should be in charge of everything in you backwards life.

A liberal is a Life member of Gun Control Inc, hates the NRA but owns a gun for self protection and if they ever get rich and famous, they have bodyguards that all carry guns.

A liberal believes in distribution of income as long as they are in charge of the distribution.

A liberal thinks YOU should run your AC at 82 degrees, heat at 62 degrees and live in a house appropriate for your family unit. They however are allowed to live in a house of 20,000 sq ft or more kept at a chilly 68 in the summer and 82 in the winter.

They do have a attic vent powered by solar energy [as proven by a foto in today's paper of said vent install in the Owl Hore home]

Speaking of Owl, he stated yesterday in Bali at the Enviro-Nazi meeting by the UN that: the problem in the world is the United States and its production of pollution, NO ONE ELSE is at fault". Thanks BIG Owl spoken like a true communist, errr liberal just like yo daddy taught you.

AZG23

12-14-2007, 09:27 AM

The difference is that I don't proclaim to be a law-abiding driver...I just found this thread funny because some folks like to proudly proclaim that you shouldn't take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens.

carrying where posted isnt any bigger than going into your neighbors yard if it says not to...its simple trespass...not huge crime. Just as going a few mph over the posted is.

Everyone lies, cheats and steals...you getting paid while surfing VJC is stealing the schools money you are getting paid to work, etc, etc, blah blah..the "law abiding" isnt picture perfect as you seem to make it out to be in this case. And when you talk about law abiding, it means hasnt been, or commited felonious crimes. How bout lets go back to the beginning John...the Constitution says "SHALL NOT INFRINGE", yet the .gov has made hundreds of laws that infringe on MY right to protect myself and my family. I guess that makes it ok since there should never be any law prohibiting me from carrying anywhere, let alone the mall...

John_P

12-14-2007, 09:46 AM

You most likely said in jest, but just in case you didn't.

Johnny-boy is a a true liberal, not a wanna-be like a lot of others, but a real wallet sized card carry with Fo-t-o.

This means John does as he wants, violates as he sees fit and proclaims loudly "do as I say, don't do as I do". I am Kollege ProFessor therefore I am smarter than you, can make better decisions and should be in charge of everything in you backwards life.

What a pathetic attempt to poison the well. Seems to be the only response the old fart has these days.

John_P

12-14-2007, 09:51 AM

carrying where posted isnt any bigger than going into your neighbors yard if it says not to...its simple trespass...not huge crime. Just as going a few mph over the posted is.

Not a "huge" crime...You people crack me up...Can anyone say "rationalization" or better yet "cognitive dissonance".

LOL, how pathetic.

Everyone lies, cheats and steals...you getting paid while surfing VJC is stealing the schools money you are getting paid to work, etc, etc, blah blah..

Classes ended last week, genius.

the "law abiding" isnt picture perfect as you seem to make it out to be in this case. And when you talk about law abiding, it means hasnt been, or commited felonious crimes.

Sure...whatever makes you feel stupid inside.

SavageSun4x4

12-14-2007, 10:24 AM

What a pathetic attempt to poison the well. Seems to be the only response the old fart has these days.
Johnny-boy, you are right, I am an old fart and justly proud of it. That said the only well getting poisoned is any well you get close to, BUT ONLY after YOU have drank YOUR FILL :baby:

John_P

12-14-2007, 10:38 AM

Johnny-boy, you are right, I am an old fart and justly proud of it. That said the only well getting poisoned is any well you get close to, BUT ONLY after YOU have drank YOUR FILL :baby:

Look...I was trying to point out the wee-bit of hypocrisy in the thread...what does that lead to? An all out personal attack by the Don...

Figures.

SavageSun4x4

12-14-2007, 10:51 AM

Look...I was trying to point out the wee-bit of hypocrisy in the thread...what does that lead to? An all out personal attack by the Don...

Figures.

Johnny-boy...PERSONAL attack, give me a friggin break, you all out general and personal attacks on here are legend. Everytime you find yourself on the downside and any discussion you start squealing like Jesse Jackson screams racial.

and who called who and "old fart". Yes Johnny-boy just one more prime example of the liberal mindset you bring to the table. "Don't do as I do, do as I say". I know its may be hard for you to accept but the rules apply to everyone and that INCLUDES you....AND Owl Hore :baby:

lancetkenyon

12-14-2007, 11:15 AM

Here we go, this is more like it!!! COME ON GUYS, DON'T STOP!!! John is swaying me to his side.

AZG23

12-14-2007, 11:34 AM

bout time to take those short shorts off Lance...you are starting to think all gooey

John_P

12-14-2007, 11:49 AM

Johnny-boy...PERSONAL attack, give me a friggin break, you all out general and personal attacks on here are legend. Everytime you find yourself on the downside and any discussion you start squealing like Jesse Jackson screams racial.

and who called who and "old fart". Yes Johnny-boy just one more prime example of the liberal mindset you bring to the table. "Don't do as I do, do as I say". I know its may be hard for you to accept but the rules apply to everyone and that INCLUDES you....AND Owl Hore :baby:

Face it Don, rather than attacking the idea it is just too tempting for you to attack the individual...

I started my comments out with a bit of sarcasm and you come along with your horn and play your same old tired "liberals are root of all that is wrong in the world" tune...

Your platinum baby. I am your producer. :pimp2:

sms1688

12-14-2007, 12:28 PM

Lets thank Joe for pokeing the bear.
When ever John P gets into this forum it becomes personal attacks and politics. If it werent for the drama he wouldnt post in here.

I carry and I am glad that I can. I carry unless it is obvious that I cant carry in a specific place.
I dont carry at work(college campus) but I wish I could. If I got caught I would be fired so I dont.

CaptainMorgan

12-14-2007, 11:13 PM

some "little hippie lookin guy" had beat the living sheet out of him out in the parking lot.

It really did him some good and it sorta toned down his "I am bad" attitude.

Confidence and arrogance are two very different things...

I totally understand what you mean...I know some guys like that too. I dont act like that...It is just true how I feel about killing people vs. fighting like a man whether you win or loose. Unlike most people I dont mind beaing beaten up too much. Nobody likes to get hurt, but wounds heal and make you less afraid each time. I grew up in Tempe and spent a LOT of time in south Phx and have been around un savory characters most of my life. I know I can get beat up, even Tyson gets beat up. Ive had my nose smashed and been hit with 2x4's...still better than killing the people IMO.

ALSO, I dont have an "I am bad" attitude. In fact if you met me you would never guess that I am bad. I dont look quick or violent, almost like "some hippy lookin dude"...I've taken down two blackbelts that thought they were bad asses that wanted to see why I thought I could fight. I beat up three mexicans at once when they stole my bike when I was 15. Those are just some moments of my wild youth...it sure was fun but I am glad I live in Flag now. I was going down a bad path in Phx.

My mom used to be an exotic dancer and once she was walking to her car from the club when a 6"4' 240lb african american guy came out of the darkness and grabbed her and tried to rape her. She kicked his *** so bad they had to call an ambulance. She nearly took his cheek off with her middle finger. Seriously.

That's the woman who raised me, my dad was almost a member of the Dirty Dozen but he had a standoff with the Warlord when he hit his girlfriend in our house....My grandmother was shot in the head once and lived...we are a tough breed.

I got a tough family and I would rather get myself beat up than have to kill someone.

BUT, if someone comes into my house for any reason and I dont know who they are, I will drop them like a 12 point buck in deer season with an old pump shotgun.

SavageSun4x4

12-15-2007, 09:22 AM

Confidence and arrogance are two very different things...

I totally understand what you mean...I know some guys like that too. I dont act like that...It is just true how I feel about killing people vs. fighting like a man whether you win or loose. Unlike most people I dont mind beaing beaten up too much. Nobody likes to get hurt, but wounds heal and make you less afraid each time. I grew up in Tempe and spent a LOT of time in south Phx and have been around un savory characters most of my life. I know I can get beat up, even Tyson gets beat up. Ive had my nose smashed and been hit with 2x4's...still better than killing the people IMO.

ALSO, I dont have an "I am bad" attitude. In fact if you met me you would never guess that I am bad. I dont look quick or violent, almost like "some hippy lookin dude"...I've taken down two blackbelts that thought they were bad asses that wanted to see why I thought I could fight. I beat up three mexicans at once when they stole my bike when I was 15. Those are just some moments of my wild youth...it sure was fun but I am glad I live in Flag now. I was going down a bad path in Phx.

My mom used to be an exotic dancer and once she was walking to her car from the club when a 6"4' 240lb african american guy came out of the darkness and grabbed her and tried to rape her. She kicked his *** so bad they had to call an ambulance. She nearly took his cheek off with her middle finger. Seriously.

That's the woman who raised me, my dad was almost a member of the Dirty Dozen but he had a standoff with the Warlord when he hit his girlfriend in our house....My grandmother was shot in the head once and lived...we are a tough breed.

I got a tough family and I would rather get myself beat up than have to kill someone.

BUT, if someone comes into my house for any reason and I dont know who they are, I will drop them like a 12 point buck in deer season with an old pump shotgun.
Capt'n sounds like you need to write a book :skull::laugh2:

big_dave302

12-16-2007, 05:33 PM

I'm on a roll. Two posts in two days. I voted before I read this thread. I carry every where because I can. Alot of my co-workers dont because they choose not to. I am given that right by my job and the law, not a ccw. But I am expected some what to do something if the need came forth, especially at a school, mall, church, etc.. But.... I also believe anyone who has put forth the effort to do the right thing and get a ccw should not be chastise for choosing to exercise their right. Not saying break the law, but carry wisely.

AZG23

12-16-2007, 06:25 PM

Good to have you back Dave!

TiffanyV

12-17-2007, 07:59 AM

does anyone carry to work? I know that is one thing I could never do as our security is pretty tight.

dont have ccw yet, though if I did, I would be allowed to have it on premisis so long as it was not on my person and locked appropriately. Funny part is, the owner had to make that rule so he could have his own with him at all times..:)

Bilt4Comfort

12-20-2007, 04:25 PM

Guns? Damn...I lost all of my guns in a terrible boating accident. Yeah...that's the ticket. Sank right to the bottom...sure they're all rusted out and useless now.

There are 3 kinds of people in this country. Sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs.
Which one are you?

AZG23

12-20-2007, 07:35 PM

Sheepdog

Joe West

12-20-2007, 07:42 PM

I think I'm a hybrid somewhere between a wolf and a sheepdog. I guide my flock around like a sheepdog and protect them like a wolf :)

etropic

12-28-2007, 06:46 PM

I'll bet you all carry into school ZONES (1000 ft from school grounds not on private property)... (ccw exempt)

AZG23

12-28-2007, 09:27 PM

I'll bet you all carry into school ZONES (1000 ft from school grounds not on private property)... (ccw exempt)

That is a Federal Law...and only implemented if there is NO state regulation.

etropic

12-28-2007, 09:39 PM

so you're saying there is a state regulation that overrides this?
i don't remember reading federal provisions that let anyone out of this regulation (except for ccw)

AZG23

12-28-2007, 09:48 PM

http://www.azdps.gov/cwpu/procedures/laws.asp

Federal Law:
Federal law does not preempt Arizona law. It does however, provide for federal jurisdiction if there is no state or local law in place addressing a specific situation or incident. The federal code that covers firearms in school zones is 18 USC 922(q). These statutes are very similar to Arizona statutes with a few exceptions, namely, a prohibition of the possession or discharge of firearms within a 1000 foot "buffer" zone around a school's property. There are several exceptions to these federal statutes. Federal law addresses both possession of a firearm (18 USC 922(q)(2)(A)) and discharge of a firearm (18 USC 922(q)(3)(A)) within a school zone. The term "school zone", as it applies to federal law, includes both school grounds and a 1000 foot "buffer" zone around the school grounds.

etropic

12-28-2007, 09:58 PM

AZG23

12-28-2007, 10:03 PM

yup....

Stu Olson

01-03-2008, 07:49 PM

That is a Federal Law...and only implemented if there is NO state regulation.
That is the way I read it too.

I contacted the person at http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Nx1.htm as he has a very differing opinion. I found his people skills to be less than I appreciated. ;) He states the federal law is in full affect in addition to the AZ law. He said the DPS web site is wrong or at least misleading.

I stopped attempting to discuss it with him after the 2nd e-mail exchange.

SavageSun4x4

01-26-2008, 06:25 PM

That is the way I read it too.

I contacted the person at http://www.gunlaws.com/Gun_Free_School_Zones_Nx1.htm as he has a very differing opinion. I found his people skills to be less than I appreciated. ;) He states the federal law is in full affect in addition to the AZ law. He said the DPS web site is wrong or at least misleading.

I stopped attempting to discuss it with him after the 2nd e-mail exchange.
Based upon your description of the exchange I would say that its not just people skills he is lacking in...:aagh:

AZG23

01-27-2008, 08:08 AM

well if Federal law overides State law...then whats the point of the new legislation just introduced to exempt CCW holders from "NO GUNS" on school grounds.?? :pile:

Stu Olson

01-31-2008, 07:41 PM

I attempted to run some of that logic past him but it didn't register....at least not that I could tell. Not sure if it was just his writing style or not, but it seemed he was getting annoyed with me so I said my goodbyes and quite while I was ahead. :)

Stu Olson

01-31-2008, 07:47 PM

Speaking of carrying in posted areas, I stopped by Cabella's the other day and noticed they had a small sign at the entrance. I suspected it had something to do with entering store with a gun so I stopped to read it (it isn't very big).

It said that a firearm brought into the store must either remain in the holster or if coming in for service, unloaded and in a carry case with the action open.

Compared to several of the gun stores I frequent, that is, in my opinion, a very reasonable approach. FWIW, I didn't notice anyone in the firearms section getting shot either. :)

If memory serves me correctly, Dillon didn't prevent you from CCW in their store either.

reds97tj

01-31-2008, 08:30 PM

1 question if it is concealed how will you get in trouble for carrying, unless you are still alive and someone else is not. I personly would rather be alive and in trouble than dead. Signs, I dont read signs any more.

lancetkenyon

02-04-2008, 02:57 PM

I was at Best Buy last weekend. As I was exiting, a potential customer was entering with a sidearm in plain view(Legally carrying). He was told by the dork knob at the front entrance that Best Buy does not allow weapons in the store. The guy politely walked out, and said,"Sorry." The dork knob looks at me and says,"I hate guns." As I was leaving, I lifted up my sweatshirt (showing my CCW .45) and said,"Me too, especially the ones carried by people legally, supporting our constitutional rights." The look on the guys face was priceless, too bad I hadn't just bought a digital camera, I could have showed you all the look.

True story

reds97tj

02-04-2008, 03:38 PM

that is awesome. I wish I could have been there to see that. That would make a great priceless commerical for the NRA, or something of that nature. :2guns::2guns:

Sc00by

02-04-2008, 08:31 PM

Ive yet to get my CCW (plan to this year)
my company rule is no guns in company trucks... but 90% of the people who drive a company truck carry.

Also know of several people at Church that carry too...

Best Buy story is GREAT!!! I too would like to have seen the look on his face

lancetkenyon

02-07-2008, 12:22 PM

Before I posted this thread, I was very selective on where I chose to carry my sidearm concealed. After some thought, and insight from some sources here, I have chosen to carry everywhere. I used to hide my handgun in the truck when it was posted no weapons allowed. I never thought of the arguement of leaving it in the vehicle for someone else to get and use. It is honestly, more negligent to leave it unsecured than on your person. I will leave this thread open, but actually did not expect such a profound arguement why NOT to obey the signs prohibiting carry. Thank you folks, I appreciate it.

AZG23

02-08-2008, 06:27 PM

After reading this, I shot (pun intended) and email to Bestbuy customer service.....here is the response.

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Best Buy Customer,

Thank you for contacting Best Buy about our policy concerning customers carrying weapons in our stores. I'm Ted with Consumer Relations.

I understand your concern. Best Buy does not have a company-wide policy prohibiting customers from lawfully carrying guns in our store. We are committed to abiding by local and state regulations.

We look forward to your next visit to one of our stores or to www.BestBuy.com. Please do not hesitate to contact us with additional questions or concerns.

Best Wishes from Best Buy,
Ted and the Consumer Relations Team

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So next time ask to speak to the manager.

I was at Best Buy last weekend. As I was exiting, a potential customer was entering with a sidearm in plain view(Legally carrying). He was told by the dork knob at the front entrance that Best Buy does not allow weapons in the store. The guy politely walked out, and said,"Sorry." The dork knob looks at me and says,"I hate guns." As I was leaving, I lifted up my sweatshirt (showing my CCW .45) and said,"Me too, especially the ones carried by people legally, supporting our constitutional rights." The look on the guys face was priceless, too bad I hadn't just bought a digital camera, I could have showed you all the look.

True story

Locked & Loaded

02-08-2008, 07:13 PM

Carrying where it's illegal. Nothing like the outlaw mentality. Like they say "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns." DO IT LEGAL.

lancetkenyon

02-08-2008, 08:24 PM

Carrying where it's illegal. Nothing like the outlaw mentality. Like they say "When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns." DO IT LEGAL.

So that means you don't carry within 1000 ft of a school?

greengoblyn

02-09-2008, 05:33 PM

ive carried in fiesta and az mills openly and walked right in front of the police , and they complimented my hk vp70z due to the rarety of that model they did not ask me to leave!

lancetkenyon

02-10-2008, 07:58 PM

ive carried in fiesta and az mills openly and walked right in front of the police , and they complimented my hk vp70z due to the rarety of that model they did not ask me to leave!

Is it posted on ALL the doors not to carry there? If not, you have missed the point of this thread. If it does, then you just carried where you are not supposed to. And still waiting on the within 1000 ft of a school zone question.