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62286 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 7:15am
Subject: Re: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
No flame at all. These people make us all look bad. Verify the area is still closed and report the suckers.
Chris
From: Jake Wagner
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62287 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 7:16am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
Jeepinduke,
Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower control...
the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat and
sometimes they burn up.
Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you the
rheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor board
assembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSM
available right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
>
>
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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62288 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:10am
Subject: Re: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have had my blower controller replaced twice since I have had
my '99 TJ. I am not sure that it is cheap. Both times it was a
warranty replace, once factory and once extended.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepinduke" <jmueller@d...> wrote:
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions
on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday
all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
62289 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:33am
Subject: Re: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
These items are usually cheaper than dirt at Auto Zone too.
Gary Holmes
Joe W wrote:
Jeepinduke,Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower control...the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat andsometimes they burn up.Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you therheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor boardassembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSMavailable right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.Joe West
-----Original Message-----From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@durel.com]Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AMTo: az_vjc@yahoogroups.comSubject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motorI have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions onit. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday allspeeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both aregood. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix thischeep.Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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62290 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:46am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62291 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:46am
Subject: RE: What happened to us?
Nothing wrong with the emails Nick. It's just you. :)
Joey K
93yj
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4x4Jeep.Net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:43 AM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] What happened to us?
Man, I used to look forward to reading my e-mails.... Its been a drag lately :(
Hopefully this CK run will re-unite us :)
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62292 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Be sure you call the BLM land office first. You could get in trouble for doing that depending on what LE officer happens to drive by at the time. Having an e-mail of approval from the BLM would save your neck. Stranger things have happened to good samaritans.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@desertjeep.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:46 AM
To: 'Jake Wagner'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62293 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:56am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Joey:
I'd be more than willing to clean the paint off. They painted over most of the signs in brown paint (the BLM signs are Brown) and I noticed a few were painted over in Red.
I've only seen MCSO down in there once in the past 8 weeks. I know before these signs went up everytime I went by there were atleast 4-6 4x4 MCSO vehicles down there chasing people and I believe they were handing out citations.
Jake
DesertJeep wrote:
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62294 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 9:10am
Subject: OHV Area being abused
To Whom It May Concern:
In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: http://www.azvjc.org
My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone at: 602-421-3717.
Thank You for your time.
Yours Truly:
Jacob M. Wagner
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62295 From: <jmueller@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 9:22am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
Thanks for the help. I called some of the parts stores and it is still a
dealers item. Darners can get it special order $36. Pay in advance. Does
anyone know where the board is located so I can remove it before I order
the new one. Thanks again.
"Joe W"
<arizonajeep@ To: "'jeepinduke'" <jmueller@d...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
cox.net> cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
08/06/2002
07:16 AM
Please
respond to
arizonajeep
Jeepinduke,
Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower
control...
the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat and
sometimes they burn up.
Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you the
rheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor board
assembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSM
available right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
>
>
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
62296 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:26am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Good letter Jake! It's troubling when people are so self centered and short sighted that they will break the rules and jeopardize everyone's access to our lands.
Steven Campbell
In a message dated 8/6/02 9:11:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jakewagner@yahoo.com writes:
To Whom It May Concern:
In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: http://www.azvjc.org
My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone at: 602-421-3717.
Thank You for your time.
Yours Truly:
Jacob M. Wagner
62297 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:29am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
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Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
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62298 From: stinger75ih <stinger75ih@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:32am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Ditto... Having a concerned OHVer reporting some of these yahoos will
go a long way in offsetting the negativity we get from those yahoos
in the first place.
--- In az_vjc@y..., scamp89245@a... wrote:
> Good letter Jake! It's troubling when people are so self centered
and short
> sighted that they will break the rules and jeopardize everyone's
access to
> our lands.
>
> Steven Campbell
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/6/02 9:11:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> jakewagner@y... writes:
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> >
> > In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted
closure
> > signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed.
There
> > have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure
signs and I
> > also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I
would like
> > to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these
individuals
> > when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I
contact? I have
> > seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before,
but am not
> > sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
> >
> > I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual
Jeep Club
> > (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in
abiding by
> > the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: <A
HREF="http://www.azvjc.org/">http://www.azvjc.org</A>
> >
> > My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus
cleaner to
> > remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has
posted. Would it
> > be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
> >
> > Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via
phone at:
> > 602-421-3717.
> >
> > Thank You for your time.
> >
> > Yours Truly:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jacob M. Wagner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
62299 From: roy95yj <roy95yj@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:33am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Good letter Jake,
Count me in to help clean up these signs.
Roy
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...> wrote:
>
> To Whom It May Concern:
>
> In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted
closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River
Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your
closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the
recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement
agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this
closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County
Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are
the correct agency to contact.
>
> I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual
Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we
believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website
at: http://www.azvjc.org
>
> My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus
cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has
posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this
closure?
>
> Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone
at: 602-421-3717.
>
> Thank You for your time.
>
> Yours Truly:
>
>
>
> Jacob M. Wagner
>
>
>
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62300 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:46am
Subject: Re: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
I see a lot of dirt bikes riding around in my area and they are on private property. Attempts have been made over the last few years to keep them out. The most recent one, tractors came in and piled up big pieces of broken concrete to build a barrier and that has been by passed. There is a fence up posting no trespassing but they just keep cutting it and ride there any way. The PCSO has done little to enforce the postings in the last few years. I can drive behind a police car and look over and see 4 trucks and 15 dirt bikes an quads and the cop just drives by. In the 29 years in this area, I have seen 2 different times where some one was being spoken to by an LE officer.
It is hard to keep them out, if the police don't even enforce the laws. As far as I know, the dry washes in AZ are off limits to OHV use and yet I drive by some and see all the trails.
This is a group of people (AZVJC) the size of my senior class in high school and we are up against a whole state of OHV users. This can become a big battle for us if we decide to take it on.
Also, there are a lot of them that are not in a group, or do not participate in any of the land meetings. Me being one of them, how many times have were heard that a Newbe didn't know about BLM or STL before they found this group. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse and one can still be punished for their actions. I think that about 15-20% of OHV community are aware of the laws and what is going on. The rest just go do it and are completely oblivious to what is really going on.
Any one can drive by a shop and buy a bike for the first time and think, well I have seen others out there, why can't I. But do they jump to the net and find a group, related to their activities, and find out what they can and can not do?
It is the numerous times the law enforcement agencies catch the ones that should not be, that attracts there attention to all OHV. Organized or not.
Please, do the right things and not the wrong. Some one said that the police man that pulled you over can only put you in the category of the last OHV person they pulled over, before you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:55 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62301 From: nnotes <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:33am
Subject: How much $ for heater core?
Anyone know how much a heater core for a 93 YJ is? I know, 3 months
tell the real cold but I'm thinking ahead. Also isn't emmisions
every two years? I know renewel is every year but not the emmisions
right? Getting ready to do a whole fluid, tuneup and etc.
Nick
62302 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:38am
Subject: Gears
I know it was just posted, but I can't find the post. How do I
fingure out my gear ratio for my 98TJ with the D44 and trashlock? I
am trying to order my 4.88 gears and need to know if I have to get a
new carrier. -Rob
62303 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:59am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
There is a resistor package that usually goes bad (it controls the speed for
the blower fan).
If memory serves me correctly, it is located down by the passenger kick
panel (I am trying to recall the details of it from a conversation I had
some time back with a friend who replaced his. Sorry if my info is not 100%
accurate).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
cheep.
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62304 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:57am
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
Be carefull out there.......Dove hunting season opens on Sept 1st, and I think that area is popular with hunters.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
Hello All,
Frank Bell is leading an Unspecified trail run on Monday, September 2, 2002.
When: MONDAY @ 9:00AM
Where: AT THE INTERSECTION OF US60 AND US93 IN WICKENBURG
Rating: None
Length: 2-3 HOURS
CB Channel: 4
SANDY RIVER BOTTEMS. WATER CROSSINGS, SHALLOW BUT SANDY. HILLS TO CLIMB TO TEST YOUR ABILITY. NICE SHADED AREA TO SIT AND EAT OR ENJOY THE SCENERY. OVER ALL A EASY TRAIL WITH THE MOST DIFFICULTIES BEING THE DEEP SAND.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
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62305 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 0:34pm
Subject: RE: Gears
Rob,
If your axles are factory and have never been modified, your rear axle
ratio is 3.73:1
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: g_rob_williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:39 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Gears
I know it was just posted, but I can't find the post. How do I
fingure out my gear ratio for my 98TJ with the D44 and trashlock? I
am trying to order my 4.88 gears and need to know if I have to get a
new carrier. -Rob
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62306 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 0:39pm
Subject: Re: How much $ for heater core?
Mmmm, here in Tucson, emissions is every year, after the vehicle is 5 years
of age or older.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "nnotes" <nnote@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] How much $ for heater core?
> Anyone know how much a heater core for a 93 YJ is? I know, 3 months
> tell the real cold but I'm thinking ahead. Also isn't emmisions
> every two years? I know renewel is every year but not the emmisions
> right? Getting ready to do a whole fluid, tuneup and etc.
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
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62307 From: allanalxndr <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 1:02pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
How is this trail. I am wondering if I would make it or not...
90YJ 4 " susp lift, 2" body. 33"s 4cyl Open f/r
Thanks,
Allan
62308 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:05pm
Subject: ot: help design webpage
Can anyone recommend a webpage designer that is super easy? Something that comes with templates that you can just edit to your stuff. I downloaded the two that Cox recommends, but I can't get them figured out. They are WS FTP and Cute FTP. Thanks for the help.
Mike
62309 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:15pm
Subject: Re: ot: help design webpage
Those don't sound like web page designers, but rather FTP clients.
If you have Netscape (you can still, I think, download it from the Netscape website for free), that you have Netscape Composer. It's still free, I believe.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: The Acuna Family
To: AzVJC Website
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ot: help design webpage
Can anyone recommend a webpage designer that is super easy? Something that comes with templates that you can just edit to your stuff. I downloaded the two that Cox recommends, but I can't get them figured out. They are WS FTP and Cute FTP. Thanks for the help.
Mike
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62310 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: BLM Being Abused by OHVs
Hi All:
This morning on my way to a friend's house I saw dirt bikes and also a few trucks in the river bed. I just came back through the area about 20 minutes ago and no one was down in the area.
Also, It appears as though someone started cleaning the grafitti off the signs. Did somebody from the club go out there and clean them off? I have not heard back from BLM yet.
Later
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62286 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 7:15am
Subject: Re: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
No flame at all. These people make us all look bad. Verify the area is still closed and report the suckers.
Chris
From: Jake Wagner
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 06:54:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62287 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 7:16am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
Jeepinduke,
Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower control...
the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat and
sometimes they burn up.
Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you the
rheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor board
assembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSM
available right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
>
>
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
>
>
>
>
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62288 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:10am
Subject: Re: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have had my blower controller replaced twice since I have had
my '99 TJ. I am not sure that it is cheap. Both times it was a
warranty replace, once factory and once extended.
--James
--- In az_vjc@y..., "jeepinduke" <jmueller@d...> wrote:
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions
on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday
all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
62289 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:33am
Subject: Re: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
These items are usually cheaper than dirt at Auto Zone too.
Gary Holmes
Joe W wrote:
Jeepinduke,Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower control...the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat andsometimes they burn up.Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you therheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor boardassembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSMavailable right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.Joe West
-----Original Message-----From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@durel.com]Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AMTo: az_vjc@yahoogroups.comSubject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motorI have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions onit. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday allspeeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both aregood. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix thischeep.Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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62290 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:46am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62291 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:46am
Subject: RE: What happened to us?
Nothing wrong with the emails Nick. It's just you. :)
Joey K
93yj
-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Gasmena [mailto:NickG@4x4Jeep.Net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 3:43 AM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] What happened to us?
Man, I used to look forward to reading my e-mails.... Its been a drag lately :(
Hopefully this CK run will re-unite us :)
Cheers,
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62292 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:51am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Be sure you call the BLM land office first. You could get in trouble for doing that depending on what LE officer happens to drive by at the time. Having an e-mail of approval from the BLM would save your neck. Stranger things have happened to good samaritans.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@desertjeep.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:46 AM
To: 'Jake Wagner'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62293 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 8:56am
Subject: RE: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Joey:
I'd be more than willing to clean the paint off. They painted over most of the signs in brown paint (the BLM signs are Brown) and I noticed a few were painted over in Red.
I've only seen MCSO down in there once in the past 8 weeks. I know before these signs went up everytime I went by there were atleast 4-6 4x4 MCSO vehicles down there chasing people and I believe they were handing out citations.
Jake
DesertJeep wrote:
Hey Jake why would we Flame you that is good post. How about this you and me either after work or Saturday morning bring some of that citrus cleaner, you know the one that cleans graffiti. And we will clean the paint off the signs.
What do you think?
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Wagner [mailto:jakewagner@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:54 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62294 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 9:10am
Subject: OHV Area being abused
To Whom It May Concern:
In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: http://www.azvjc.org
My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone at: 602-421-3717.
Thank You for your time.
Yours Truly:
Jacob M. Wagner
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62295 From: <jmueller@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 9:22am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
Thanks for the help. I called some of the parts stores and it is still a
dealers item. Darners can get it special order $36. Pay in advance. Does
anyone know where the board is located so I can remove it before I order
the new one. Thanks again.
"Joe W"
<arizonajeep@ To: "'jeepinduke'" <jmueller@d...>, <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
cox.net> cc:
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
08/06/2002
07:16 AM
Please
respond to
arizonajeep
Jeepinduke,
Most likely, you have ruined the circuit board for the fan blower
control...
the board has resistors on it which dissipate quite a bit of heat and
sometimes they burn up.
Call Darner's and ask about the board... they may try to sell you the
rheostat as well, but don't purchase it yet. Stick to the resistor board
assembly (don't know the real name of this item... and I don't have my FSM
available right now to check). Darner's will understand what the part is.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
>
>
> I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
> it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
> speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
> good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
> cheep.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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62296 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:26am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Good letter Jake! It's troubling when people are so self centered and short sighted that they will break the rules and jeopardize everyone's access to our lands.
Steven Campbell
In a message dated 8/6/02 9:11:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time, jakewagner@yahoo.com writes:
To Whom It May Concern:
In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: http://www.azvjc.org
My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone at: 602-421-3717.
Thank You for your time.
Yours Truly:
Jacob M. Wagner
62297 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:29am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
Hello All,
Frank Bell is leading an Unspecified trail run on Monday, September 2, 2002.
When: MONDAY @ 9:00AM
Where: AT THE INTERSECTION OF US60 AND US93 IN WICKENBURG
Rating: None
Length: 2-3 HOURS
CB Channel: 4
SANDY RIVER BOTTEMS. WATER CROSSINGS, SHALLOW BUT SANDY. HILLS TO CLIMB TO TEST YOUR ABILITY. NICE SHADED AREA TO SIT AND EAT OR ENJOY THE SCENERY. OVER ALL A EASY TRAIL WITH THE MOST DIFFICULTIES BEING THE DEEP SAND.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
62298 From: stinger75ih <stinger75ih@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:32am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Ditto... Having a concerned OHVer reporting some of these yahoos will
go a long way in offsetting the negativity we get from those yahoos
in the first place.
--- In az_vjc@y..., scamp89245@a... wrote:
> Good letter Jake! It's troubling when people are so self centered
and short
> sighted that they will break the rules and jeopardize everyone's
access to
> our lands.
>
> Steven Campbell
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/6/02 9:11:00 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> jakewagner@y... writes:
> > To Whom It May Concern:
> >
> > In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted
closure
> > signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River Bed.
There
> > have been quite a few individuals who painted over your closure
signs and I
> > also have seen people in the closed area in the recent weeks. I
would like
> > to contact the proper law enforcement agency and report these
individuals
> > when I see them present in this closed area. Who would I
contact? I have
> > seen Maricopa County Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before,
but am not
> > sure if they are the correct agency to contact.
> >
> > I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual
Jeep Club
> > (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we believe in
abiding by
> > the rules. Feel free to view the club website at: <A
HREF="http://www.azvjc.org/">http://www.azvjc.org</A>
> >
> > My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus
cleaner to
> > remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has
posted. Would it
> > be ok if we did this so others would know of this closure?
> >
> > Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via
phone at:
> > 602-421-3717.
> >
> > Thank You for your time.
> >
> > Yours Truly:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jacob M. Wagner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
62299 From: roy95yj <roy95yj@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:33am
Subject: Re: OHV Area being abused
Good letter Jake,
Count me in to help clean up these signs.
Roy
--- In az_vjc@y..., Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...> wrote:
>
> To Whom It May Concern:
>
> In the most recents months I've noticed your agency has posted
closure signs just south of Camelback Road near the Agua Fria River
Bed. There have been quite a few individuals who painted over your
closure signs and I also have seen people in the closed area in the
recent weeks. I would like to contact the proper law enforcement
agency and report these individuals when I see them present in this
closed area. Who would I contact? I have seen Maricopa County
Sheriff's Office (MCSO) enforcing before, but am not sure if they are
the correct agency to contact.
>
> I'm a very avid four wheeler and am active in the Arizona Virtual
Jeep Club (AZVJC). We are a very active club statewide and we
believe in abiding by the rules. Feel free to view the club website
at: http://www.azvjc.org
>
> My fellow jeep club members and I would like to use a citrus
cleaner to remove the grafitti from these signs that your agency has
posted. Would it be ok if we did this so others would know of this
closure?
>
> Feel free to contact me either at this e-mail address or via phone
at: 602-421-3717.
>
> Thank You for your time.
>
> Yours Truly:
>
>
>
> Jacob M. Wagner
>
>
>
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62300 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 10:46am
Subject: Re: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
I see a lot of dirt bikes riding around in my area and they are on private property. Attempts have been made over the last few years to keep them out. The most recent one, tractors came in and piled up big pieces of broken concrete to build a barrier and that has been by passed. There is a fence up posting no trespassing but they just keep cutting it and ride there any way. The PCSO has done little to enforce the postings in the last few years. I can drive behind a police car and look over and see 4 trucks and 15 dirt bikes an quads and the cop just drives by. In the 29 years in this area, I have seen 2 different times where some one was being spoken to by an LE officer.
It is hard to keep them out, if the police don't even enforce the laws. As far as I know, the dry washes in AZ are off limits to OHV use and yet I drive by some and see all the trails.
This is a group of people (AZVJC) the size of my senior class in high school and we are up against a whole state of OHV users. This can become a big battle for us if we decide to take it on.
Also, there are a lot of them that are not in a group, or do not participate in any of the land meetings. Me being one of them, how many times have were heard that a Newbe didn't know about BLM or STL before they found this group. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse and one can still be punished for their actions. I think that about 15-20% of OHV community are aware of the laws and what is going on. The rest just go do it and are completely oblivious to what is really going on.
Any one can drive by a shop and buy a bike for the first time and think, well I have seen others out there, why can't I. But do they jump to the net and find a group, related to their activities, and find out what they can and can not do?
It is the numerous times the law enforcement agencies catch the ones that should not be, that attracts there attention to all OHV. Organized or not.
Please, do the right things and not the wrong. Some one said that the police man that pulled you over can only put you in the category of the last OHV person they pulled over, before you.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake Wagner
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:55 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62301 From: nnotes <nnote@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:33am
Subject: How much $ for heater core?
Anyone know how much a heater core for a 93 YJ is? I know, 3 months
tell the real cold but I'm thinking ahead. Also isn't emmisions
every two years? I know renewel is every year but not the emmisions
right? Getting ready to do a whole fluid, tuneup and etc.
Nick
62302 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:38am
Subject: Gears
I know it was just posted, but I can't find the post. How do I
fingure out my gear ratio for my 98TJ with the D44 and trashlock? I
am trying to order my 4.88 gears and need to know if I have to get a
new carrier. -Rob
62303 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:59am
Subject: RE: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
There is a resistor package that usually goes bad (it controls the speed for
the blower fan).
If memory serves me correctly, it is located down by the passenger kick
panel (I am trying to recall the details of it from a conversation I had
some time back with a friend who replaced his. Sorry if my info is not 100%
accurate).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: jeepinduke [mailto:jmueller@d...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 6:57 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
cheep.
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62304 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 11:57am
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
Be carefull out there.......Dove hunting season opens on Sept 1st, and I think that area is popular with hunters.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: AzVJC Website
To: AzVJC
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 5:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
Hello All,
Frank Bell is leading an Unspecified trail run on Monday, September 2, 2002.
When: MONDAY @ 9:00AM
Where: AT THE INTERSECTION OF US60 AND US93 IN WICKENBURG
Rating: None
Length: 2-3 HOURS
CB Channel: 4
SANDY RIVER BOTTEMS. WATER CROSSINGS, SHALLOW BUT SANDY. HILLS TO CLIMB TO TEST YOUR ABILITY. NICE SHADED AREA TO SIT AND EAT OR ENJOY THE SCENERY. OVER ALL A EASY TRAIL WITH THE MOST DIFFICULTIES BEING THE DEEP SAND.
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
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62305 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 0:34pm
Subject: RE: Gears
Rob,
If your axles are factory and have never been modified, your rear axle
ratio is 3.73:1
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: g_rob_williams [mailto:g_rob_williams@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:39 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Gears
I know it was just posted, but I can't find the post. How do I
fingure out my gear ratio for my 98TJ with the D44 and trashlock? I
am trying to order my 4.88 gears and need to know if I have to get a
new carrier. -Rob
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62306 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 0:39pm
Subject: Re: How much $ for heater core?
Mmmm, here in Tucson, emissions is every year, after the vehicle is 5 years
of age or older.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "nnotes" <nnote@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] How much $ for heater core?
> Anyone know how much a heater core for a 93 YJ is? I know, 3 months
> tell the real cold but I'm thinking ahead. Also isn't emmisions
> every two years? I know renewel is every year but not the emmisions
> right? Getting ready to do a whole fluid, tuneup and etc.
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
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62307 From: allanalxndr <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 1:02pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Unspecified - Monday, September 2, 2002
How is this trail. I am wondering if I would make it or not...
90YJ 4 " susp lift, 2" body. 33"s 4cyl Open f/r
Thanks,
Allan
62308 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:05pm
Subject: ot: help design webpage
Can anyone recommend a webpage designer that is super easy? Something that comes with templates that you can just edit to your stuff. I downloaded the two that Cox recommends, but I can't get them figured out. They are WS FTP and Cute FTP. Thanks for the help.
Mike
62309 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:15pm
Subject: Re: ot: help design webpage
Those don't sound like web page designers, but rather FTP clients.
If you have Netscape (you can still, I think, download it from the Netscape website for free), that you have Netscape Composer. It's still free, I believe.
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: The Acuna Family
To: AzVJC Website
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 2:05 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ot: help design webpage
Can anyone recommend a webpage designer that is super easy? Something that comes with templates that you can just edit to your stuff. I downloaded the two that Cox recommends, but I can't get them figured out. They are WS FTP and Cute FTP. Thanks for the help.
Mike
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62310 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: BLM Being Abused by OHVs
Hi All:
This morning on my way to a friend's house I saw dirt bikes and also a few trucks in the river bed. I just came back through the area about 20 minutes ago and no one was down in the area.
Also, It appears as though someone started cleaning the grafitti off the signs. Did somebody from the club go out there and clean them off? I have not heard back from BLM yet.
Later
Jake
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