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62261 From: allanalxndr <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 8:54pm
Subject: Re: ORFab Cage vs. Toys by Troy cage
I don't wheel that much. I noticed that the bars to the windshield
frame as starting to develop a crack. I would like to get a cage for
a small price. Being 17, I am on a very limited budget but will like
to get something to replace them.
Allan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Also, John has used CREW in the past. I sent a long e-mail here
(az_vjc),
> explaining all the differences, etc., a while ago (maybe 2 months
back). I
> was specifically into response to the use of CREW and why it's not
as
> "strong" as the HREW. Also there was some discussion regarding the
wall
> thinkness uniformity between the three, and how HREW can have
better wall
> thickness uniformity than DOM.
> For the wheeling that we do, DOM is probably way overkill. Nothing
wrong
> with it, if you have the $$$$, but certainly not needed.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daver" <daver@c...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: ORFab Cage vs. Toys by Troy cage
>
>
> > Good info in here, except I'm pretty sure that ARCA does NOT
require DOM-
> > HREW is fine currently.
> >
> > At 08:16 PM 8/5/2002 +0000, rabenius2001 wrote:
> > >Allan,
> > >
> > >How often do you go fourwheeling?
> > >
> > >What kind of fourwheeling do you do?
> > >
> > >If all you do is slow rock crawling on the trails here in
Phoenix,
> > >you should be able to use the OR Fab sport kit.
> > >
> > >A weld in cage is stronger than a bolt together one.
> > >
> > >It also depends on what kind of tubing the cage is made out of.
> > >
> > >You can use several different types of tube for building a
cage. HREW
> > >is hot rolled electronically welded, and has a yield strength of
> > >40,000 PSI. It will either be 1018 or 1020 mild steel. DOM is
drawn
> > >over mandrel, is seamless, and has a yield strength of 70,000
PSI,
> > >almost twice as strong (same O.D., same wall thickness). It will
> > >either be 1020, or 1026 steel.
> > >
> > >ARCA rules state that a cage must be nade from 1 1/2" O.D. DOM
> > >tubing, minimum. Not that we are all going to compete.
> > >
> > >Most of the aftermarket cages are made from mild steel (HREW)
seam
> > >tubing.
> > >
> > >While this is always better than nothing, a custom cage built
from
> > >DOM seamless tubing that welds to the frame is the best.
> > >
> > >The problem is that a custom DOM tubed cage that ties into the
frame
> > >would cost more than $1000, and would almost surely not use the
> > >factory bar.
> > >
> > >How much do you want to spend, and can you justify the extra
expense
> > >of the weld in DOM tubed cage?
> > >
> > >To give you an idea of the difference in the material cost
alone,
> > >Capital Metals sells a 20 foot length of mild steel seam tubing
(HREW)
> > >for $1.10 a foot for 1 3/4" O.D. .120" wall. That's $22.00 for
a 20
> > >foot stick.
> > >
> > >DOM mild steel seamless tube is twice as strong, but costs
$2.90 a
> > >foot for 1 3/4" O.D. .120" wall. That is $58.00 for a 20 foot
stick.
> > >
> > >If you like high speed dirt road running, the DOM cage is the
only
> > >way to go. It is stronger, and is made from stronger material.
> > >
> > >Ask John at Hunter offroad what he uses to make the cage pieces
from.
> > >I think he generally uses mild steel (HREW)seam tubing, not
DOM. This
> > >is fine for most of the population. I'm sure if you asked him,
he
> > >would make the cage from DOM, but it will cost you almost 3
time as
> > >much.
> > >
> > >The harder you use your vehicle, the more you will need to have
a
> > >better stronger cage.
> > >
> > >Either the bolt in OR Fab kit or Hunter's custom fabbed cage
would
> > >work well.
> > >
> > >One last thought: The O.R. fab cage kit comes powdercoated in
black.
> > >The hunter custom fabbed cage can be powder coated, but you
would
> > >have to strip the stock roll bar first, and then powdercoat the
whole
> > >thing (assuming John welds the front cage part to the stock roll
> > >bar). Big hastle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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62262 From: GP <grant@d...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:08pm
Subject: RE: update to poor drive shaft service
I'll have to back Stu's comments with regard to Dick's driveshaft. After installing my SYE in January, I went to them for a new shaft. The vibration with the first shaft that they built for me was intolerable at 45 mph. After complaining and taking it back, they were more than happy to build another from scratch. Now I could accelerate to a whopping 55 mph...on to the third driveshaft...this one is even worse than the first! Three strikes, Dick's is out. Dick's was more than happy to try and help, but they never could fix the problem for whatever reason.
The FIRST driveshaft from Tom Wood's works beautifully, no other changes.
Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:43 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Chris,
I suppose it could have been a bad day….things do go wrong and things can get broken….but that is no excuse. IMO, the difference between Dicks and a good shop is that the good shop admits they made the mistake and corrects it. As I said before….there is no reason I have to quality check THEIR work. I paid them $100 for the work. Maybe I missed the sign that said I could pay $200 and have it done correctly.
Have you taken your u-joints apart and checked them? From my experience, that is the ONLY way you will be able to determine that they did a “top notch job”. As the old saying goes….”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Importance: High
Maybe they were just having a bad day. I just had the length on both my driveshafts changed and they did a top notch job. They even installed a couple free u-joints.
Chris
From: "Stu Olson"
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:52:05 -0700
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dick¹s Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-tubed it because they claimed it would not balance.
I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with needle bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was surprised to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete grease job on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our summer was spent NOT wheelin¹, and with only one trip to Moab since October, I really haven¹t rolled up that much mileage.
So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the u-joints out to grease them (again).
As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large round ³cup², so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust boot if you would). You can see it here, http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose it is possible that it may have ³fallen² off since I had the work done this past Easter. But .I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that Dick¹s Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did the work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as there were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like the problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle bearings when I assembled them last October.
No .I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did, someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be cool. They are not worth the trouble.
IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You can certainly spend your money there if you wish, but I¹ll not pay them another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data point that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone should have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle bearings, etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you would be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already proven that to you.
Just thought I would share my recent discovery. I¹ll be looking for a new shop in a bit since I don¹t expect this drive shaft to last very long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and moisture, I don¹t think it will last too much longer.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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62263 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:02pm
Subject: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
Hi there,
I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
only been used once.
B.O. or interesting trades!
Jason LaLiberty
602-595-5739
62264 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:16pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62265 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:17pm
Subject: [FS] Full Doors 2 Trade
Price: Trade
Contact: landen17@hotmail.com
I have a set of bright red full hard doors w/mirrors. The only problem is that they have no door panels, but the paint is in excellent shape. My YJ is white so basically I am looking for a set of white full hard doors, with or w/out mirrors, or a set of uppers for my white half doors. I don't really want to sell them if I don't have to. Also I have a 97' Nissan P/u with a 3" body and a 3" suspension lift with 30" tires, eagle alloy rims, the truck is in very good condition, I've never had any problems with it just got the jeep so don't need p/u anymore. Jason
Jason Thomas
62266 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:17pm
Subject: Re: 33" Good year MTR's
One can also adjust the steering stops!
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:06 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 33" Good year MTR's
Mmmm, am I reading the question wrong ?? You're saying that your 32's rub
and you're wondering if yet a larger tire (33's) won't ??????
If they are getting up under the fenders when you flex, lower your
bumpstops. If they are hitting your LCA's when you turn, then what wheels
are you running, size and backspacing ?
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "roadrunner4x4"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 33" Good year MTR's
> Hi All, Does anyone know if 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's will fit a TJ
> with a 3" lift without rubbing. I have 32x11.50 BFG's and they
> don't. I have to replace them and am wondering if the 33's will fit
> without a body lift ect. Thanks for any help you can give.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
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62267 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:18pm
Subject: Dicks driveline
Just would like to ask a question, Stu, did you call Dicks and explain the problem to them? If not then why bad mouth them? If so what did they say?
I have 8 to 10 shafts built a month by Dicks, & run their shafts on our competition rigs and never had a problem.
Todd McCullen
desertfab.com
62268 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:20pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
No&.that is for a one time event.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lake [mailto:xjcountry93@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:16 PM
To: Jeepers Group
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62269 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:24pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
Thought I would ask!
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:23 PM
To: 'Jeepers Group'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
No….that is for a one time event.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lake [mailto:xjcountry93@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:16 PM
To: Jeepers Group
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62270 From: parajeeper02 <parajeeper02@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:27pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
Group permits a for a per event charge only. Meaning good for the day
or time period they were purchased. This will not help our group. I
feel that it is the indiviudals responsibility to get a permit it is
only 15-20$ for a year. I spend that filling up my gas tank three
times a week. Please get your permits. It makes Law Enforcement llok
at our OHV community as irresponsible. Remember our appearance with
LE is only as good as the last guy he stopped to check offroad.
-- Eric
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Lake" <xjcountry93@m...> wrote:
> I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available.
If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come
across this problem again?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: FredTJ
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: 'AZVJC'
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
> Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those
permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there
have been post here to that effect for several months), why would
anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LONNIE PAUGH
> To: 'AZVJC'
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when
they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use
Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were
very strict in that area about the permits.
> You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
> 233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The
office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
> The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
> I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State
Land.
>
>
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62271 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:28pm
Subject: RE: Dicks driveline
No Todd&.if you had read my posts, you would have noticed that I did not call them. (I believe I made that very clear in my first post).
If you think I am bad mouthing them, then you dont even know me very well. If I wanted to bad mouth them, my posts would not have been written in the matter in which they were.
Ive already had other e-mail sent to me (off the list) that expressed the same type of problem I had, so obviously I am not the only one who has experienced this. I read one here on the list, about 45 minutes ago, where the guy tried three times to get a good driveshaft from them.
I am glad you have good luck with them, I really am. Maybe a peson has to be someone in the off-road community to get a quality shaft from them. I know I am not such a person and I certainly dont run a competition rig.
Kind Regards,
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: TODD MCCULLEN [mailto:desertfab@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Dicks driveline
Just would like to ask a question, Stu, did you call Dicks and explain the problem to them? If not then why bad mouth them? If so what did they say?
I have 8 to 10 shafts built a month by Dicks, & run their shafts on our competition rigs and never had a problem.
Todd McCullen
desertfab.com
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62272 From: hiett710 <hiett710@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Need a Good reputable Machine Shop
Anyone?
--- In az_vjc@y..., "hiett710" <hiett710@y...> wrote:
> Hey all I need a good reputable Machine shop to repair my Crank out
> of my 350 Big block. Spun a bearing and messed up a rod. Will need
it
> welded and turned and then re-ballanced(and I havn't even gotten
the
> entire thing tore down). Anyone have a good shop they would
> recommend?
> BTW This happned while I was evacuating my DAD from Pinetop during
> the fires.:(
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> Mike H.
62273 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:45pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
How much you asking for them??
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
> Hi there,
>
> I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
> selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
> only been used once.
>
> B.O. or interesting trades!
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> 602-595-5739
>
>
>
>
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>
>
62274 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:48pm
Subject: Re: OT----puter question
Thanks for all the replies... Got it up and running on the new drive..
Thanks again
Keith
62275 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 6:00pm
Subject: Re: Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Okay...I see how it is now Rick :) That is just plain cold when you get
tagged in your own driveway. Good one :)
Sharky
PS....go check your windshield :)
62276 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:02pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
Jason
Sent you an email
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
> Hi there,
>
> I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
> selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
> only been used once.
>
> B.O. or interesting trades!
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> 602-595-5739
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
62277 From: Dockmond Tse <j4x4dock@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:08pm
Subject: Crown King Sign up
Can't seem to add my name to the list. I plan on going at 7:30 W/ Pat Dick
as the Trip Leader. Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles going at a
specific time... Or is it alright to just show up....
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62278 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:32pm
Subject: RE: Crown King Sign up
Did you Join the Club and create a profile? This must first be done to
add your name to any of the club runs.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Dockmond Tse [mailto:j4x4dock@h...]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Sign up
Can't seem to add my name to the list. I plan on going at 7:30 W/ Pat
Dick
as the Trip Leader. Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles going at
a
specific time... Or is it alright to just show up....
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62279 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:37pm
Subject: Re: Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Slick, Rick! That is pretty good.
----- Original Message -----
From: sharxjeep@cs.com
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:01 PM
To: 4x4xfun1@cox.net; AZ_VJC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Okay...I see how it is now Rick :) That is just plain cold when you get
tagged in your own driveway. Good one :)
Sharky
PS....go check your windshield :)
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62280 From: daveaapa <daveaz@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 1:51am
Subject: Re: [FS] Full Doors 2 Trade
probably a stupid question, but thought i should ask.....do yj doors
fit tj door opening?......just got tj and was wondering.
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62281 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 3:42am
Subject: What happened to us?
Man, I used to look forward to reading my e-mails.... Its been a drag lately :(
Hopefully this CK run will re-unite us :)
Cheers,
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62282 From: roy95yj <roy95yj@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 5:16am
Subject: YJ Roll Cage , rock guards by Hunter-Offroad
Hunter_Offroad built my roll cage. Pictures are located under
Roy95YJ in the photos file. John did a good job, I replaced my OEM
cage, the new cage is bolted to the floor and wheelwell, the rock
guard was also built by John, they are welded to the frame.
A few rattle can of paint, and I'm good to go....
now to start saving up for a new driveline and lockers.
Once again, thanks John.
Roy
62283 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:24am
Subject: Re: Nice cj 4sale at rogers and longmore
Is that the one that has "Made in Japan" on the front bumper?
Robert
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To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nice cj 4sale at rogers and longmore
> There's a nice Yellow lifted CJ for sale at Rogers and Longmore (just
> south of the 60). Is this a member Jeep? Nice ride!
> Nick
>
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62284 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:54am
Subject: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
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62285 From: jeepinduke <jmueller@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:57am
Subject: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
cheep.
62261 From: allanalxndr <ajalex15@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 8:54pm
Subject: Re: ORFab Cage vs. Toys by Troy cage
I don't wheel that much. I noticed that the bars to the windshield
frame as starting to develop a crack. I would like to get a cage for
a small price. Being 17, I am on a very limited budget but will like
to get something to replace them.
Allan
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Also, John has used CREW in the past. I sent a long e-mail here
(az_vjc),
> explaining all the differences, etc., a while ago (maybe 2 months
back). I
> was specifically into response to the use of CREW and why it's not
as
> "strong" as the HREW. Also there was some discussion regarding the
wall
> thinkness uniformity between the three, and how HREW can have
better wall
> thickness uniformity than DOM.
> For the wheeling that we do, DOM is probably way overkill. Nothing
wrong
> with it, if you have the $$$$, but certainly not needed.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daver" <daver@c...>
> To: <az_vjc@y...>
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: ORFab Cage vs. Toys by Troy cage
>
>
> > Good info in here, except I'm pretty sure that ARCA does NOT
require DOM-
> > HREW is fine currently.
> >
> > At 08:16 PM 8/5/2002 +0000, rabenius2001 wrote:
> > >Allan,
> > >
> > >How often do you go fourwheeling?
> > >
> > >What kind of fourwheeling do you do?
> > >
> > >If all you do is slow rock crawling on the trails here in
Phoenix,
> > >you should be able to use the OR Fab sport kit.
> > >
> > >A weld in cage is stronger than a bolt together one.
> > >
> > >It also depends on what kind of tubing the cage is made out of.
> > >
> > >You can use several different types of tube for building a
cage. HREW
> > >is hot rolled electronically welded, and has a yield strength of
> > >40,000 PSI. It will either be 1018 or 1020 mild steel. DOM is
drawn
> > >over mandrel, is seamless, and has a yield strength of 70,000
PSI,
> > >almost twice as strong (same O.D., same wall thickness). It will
> > >either be 1020, or 1026 steel.
> > >
> > >ARCA rules state that a cage must be nade from 1 1/2" O.D. DOM
> > >tubing, minimum. Not that we are all going to compete.
> > >
> > >Most of the aftermarket cages are made from mild steel (HREW)
seam
> > >tubing.
> > >
> > >While this is always better than nothing, a custom cage built
from
> > >DOM seamless tubing that welds to the frame is the best.
> > >
> > >The problem is that a custom DOM tubed cage that ties into the
frame
> > >would cost more than $1000, and would almost surely not use the
> > >factory bar.
> > >
> > >How much do you want to spend, and can you justify the extra
expense
> > >of the weld in DOM tubed cage?
> > >
> > >To give you an idea of the difference in the material cost
alone,
> > >Capital Metals sells a 20 foot length of mild steel seam tubing
(HREW)
> > >for $1.10 a foot for 1 3/4" O.D. .120" wall. That's $22.00 for
a 20
> > >foot stick.
> > >
> > >DOM mild steel seamless tube is twice as strong, but costs
$2.90 a
> > >foot for 1 3/4" O.D. .120" wall. That is $58.00 for a 20 foot
stick.
> > >
> > >If you like high speed dirt road running, the DOM cage is the
only
> > >way to go. It is stronger, and is made from stronger material.
> > >
> > >Ask John at Hunter offroad what he uses to make the cage pieces
from.
> > >I think he generally uses mild steel (HREW)seam tubing, not
DOM. This
> > >is fine for most of the population. I'm sure if you asked him,
he
> > >would make the cage from DOM, but it will cost you almost 3
time as
> > >much.
> > >
> > >The harder you use your vehicle, the more you will need to have
a
> > >better stronger cage.
> > >
> > >Either the bolt in OR Fab kit or Hunter's custom fabbed cage
would
> > >work well.
> > >
> > >One last thought: The O.R. fab cage kit comes powdercoated in
black.
> > >The hunter custom fabbed cage can be powder coated, but you
would
> > >have to strip the stock roll bar first, and then powdercoat the
whole
> > >thing (assuming John welds the front cage part to the stock roll
> > >bar). Big hastle.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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62262 From: GP <grant@d...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:08pm
Subject: RE: update to poor drive shaft service
I'll have to back Stu's comments with regard to Dick's driveshaft. After installing my SYE in January, I went to them for a new shaft. The vibration with the first shaft that they built for me was intolerable at 45 mph. After complaining and taking it back, they were more than happy to build another from scratch. Now I could accelerate to a whopping 55 mph...on to the third driveshaft...this one is even worse than the first! Three strikes, Dick's is out. Dick's was more than happy to try and help, but they never could fix the problem for whatever reason.
The FIRST driveshaft from Tom Wood's works beautifully, no other changes.
Grant
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@qwest.net]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:43 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Chris,
I suppose it could have been a bad day….things do go wrong and things can get broken….but that is no excuse. IMO, the difference between Dicks and a good shop is that the good shop admits they made the mistake and corrects it. As I said before….there is no reason I have to quality check THEIR work. I paid them $100 for the work. Maybe I missed the sign that said I could pay $200 and have it done correctly.
Have you taken your u-joints apart and checked them? From my experience, that is the ONLY way you will be able to determine that they did a “top notch job”. As the old saying goes….”Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@mac.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:46 PM
To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Importance: High
Maybe they were just having a bad day. I just had the length on both my driveshafts changed and they did a top notch job. They even installed a couple free u-joints.
Chris
From: "Stu Olson"
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 15:52:05 -0700
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] update to poor drive shaft service
Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dick¹s Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-tubed it because they claimed it would not balance.
I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with needle bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was surprised to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete grease job on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our summer was spent NOT wheelin¹, and with only one trip to Moab since October, I really haven¹t rolled up that much mileage.
So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the u-joints out to grease them (again).
As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large round ³cup², so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust boot if you would). You can see it here, http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose it is possible that it may have ³fallen² off since I had the work done this past Easter. But .I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that Dick¹s Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did the work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as there were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like the problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle bearings when I assembled them last October.
No .I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did, someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be cool. They are not worth the trouble.
IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You can certainly spend your money there if you wish, but I¹ll not pay them another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data point that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone should have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle bearings, etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you would be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already proven that to you.
Just thought I would share my recent discovery. I¹ll be looking for a new shop in a bit since I don¹t expect this drive shaft to last very long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and moisture, I don¹t think it will last too much longer.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
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62263 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:02pm
Subject: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
Hi there,
I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
only been used once.
B.O. or interesting trades!
Jason LaLiberty
602-595-5739
62264 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:16pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62265 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:17pm
Subject: [FS] Full Doors 2 Trade
Price: Trade
Contact: landen17@hotmail.com
I have a set of bright red full hard doors w/mirrors. The only problem is that they have no door panels, but the paint is in excellent shape. My YJ is white so basically I am looking for a set of white full hard doors, with or w/out mirrors, or a set of uppers for my white half doors. I don't really want to sell them if I don't have to. Also I have a 97' Nissan P/u with a 3" body and a 3" suspension lift with 30" tires, eagle alloy rims, the truck is in very good condition, I've never had any problems with it just got the jeep so don't need p/u anymore. Jason
Jason Thomas
62266 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:17pm
Subject: Re: 33" Good year MTR's
One can also adjust the steering stops!
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:06 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 33" Good year MTR's
Mmmm, am I reading the question wrong ?? You're saying that your 32's rub
and you're wondering if yet a larger tire (33's) won't ??????
If they are getting up under the fenders when you flex, lower your
bumpstops. If they are hitting your LCA's when you turn, then what wheels
are you running, size and backspacing ?
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "roadrunner4x4"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 33" Good year MTR's
> Hi All, Does anyone know if 33x12.50 Goodyear MTR's will fit a TJ
> with a 3" lift without rubbing. I have 32x11.50 BFG's and they
> don't. I have to replace them and am wondering if the 33's will fit
> without a body lift ect. Thanks for any help you can give.
>
> Jim
>
>
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62267 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:18pm
Subject: Dicks driveline
Just would like to ask a question, Stu, did you call Dicks and explain the problem to them? If not then why bad mouth them? If so what did they say?
I have 8 to 10 shafts built a month by Dicks, & run their shafts on our competition rigs and never had a problem.
Todd McCullen
desertfab.com
62268 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:20pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
No&.that is for a one time event.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lake [mailto:xjcountry93@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:16 PM
To: Jeepers Group
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62269 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:24pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
Thought I would ask!
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:23 PM
To: 'Jeepers Group'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
No….that is for a one time event.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Lake [mailto:xjcountry93@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:16 PM
To: Jeepers Group
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available. If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come across this problem again?
----- Original Message -----
From: FredTJ
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
To: 'AZVJC'
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there have been post here to that effect for several months), why would anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: LONNIE PAUGH
To: 'AZVJC'
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were very strict in that area about the permits.
You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State Land.
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62270 From: parajeeper02 <parajeeper02@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:27pm
Subject: Re: State Land Permits
Group permits a for a per event charge only. Meaning good for the day
or time period they were purchased. This will not help our group. I
feel that it is the indiviudals responsibility to get a permit it is
only 15-20$ for a year. I spend that filling up my gas tank three
times a week. Please get your permits. It makes Law Enforcement llok
at our OHV community as irresponsible. Remember our appearance with
LE is only as good as the last guy he stopped to check offroad.
-- Eric
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Lake" <xjcountry93@m...> wrote:
> I thought I had seen some were, that a group permit is available.
If this is true can we get one for our group so that we won't come
across this problem again?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: FredTJ
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:57 AM
> To: 'AZVJC'
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
> Mmmm, with all the stuff that's been posted here regarding those
permits and how strict they've been getting in the FJ area (and there
have been post here to that effect for several months), why would
anyone attempt a run on or over STL without the permit ??
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LONNIE PAUGH
> To: 'AZVJC'
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:41 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Steve Sample mentioned that they got stopped by the sheriff when
they were up at Florence Junction area for not having State Land Use
Permits. When I picked mine up here in Tucson they said they were
very strict in that area about the permits.
> You can get one at the State Land Office here in Tucson at:
> 233 N Main Ave (just north of down town) Phone #628-5480. The
office is in one of the houses on the west side of Main.
> The cost is $20 for a family and a little less for a single.
> I think that your hunting license is also good for access to State
Land.
>
>
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62271 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:28pm
Subject: RE: Dicks driveline
No Todd&.if you had read my posts, you would have noticed that I did not call them. (I believe I made that very clear in my first post).
If you think I am bad mouthing them, then you dont even know me very well. If I wanted to bad mouth them, my posts would not have been written in the matter in which they were.
Ive already had other e-mail sent to me (off the list) that expressed the same type of problem I had, so obviously I am not the only one who has experienced this. I read one here on the list, about 45 minutes ago, where the guy tried three times to get a good driveshaft from them.
I am glad you have good luck with them, I really am. Maybe a peson has to be someone in the off-road community to get a quality shaft from them. I know I am not such a person and I certainly dont run a competition rig.
Kind Regards,
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: TODD MCCULLEN [mailto:desertfab@msn.com]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Dicks driveline
Just would like to ask a question, Stu, did you call Dicks and explain the problem to them? If not then why bad mouth them? If so what did they say?
I have 8 to 10 shafts built a month by Dicks, & run their shafts on our competition rigs and never had a problem.
Todd McCullen
desertfab.com
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62272 From: hiett710 <hiett710@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:46pm
Subject: Re: Need a Good reputable Machine Shop
Anyone?
--- In az_vjc@y..., "hiett710" <hiett710@y...> wrote:
> Hey all I need a good reputable Machine shop to repair my Crank out
> of my 350 Big block. Spun a bearing and messed up a rod. Will need
it
> welded and turned and then re-ballanced(and I havn't even gotten
the
> entire thing tore down). Anyone have a good shop they would
> recommend?
> BTW This happned while I was evacuating my DAD from Pinetop during
> the fires.:(
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> Mike H.
62273 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:45pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
How much you asking for them??
Keith
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From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
> Hi there,
>
> I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
> selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
> only been used once.
>
> B.O. or interesting trades!
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> 602-595-5739
>
>
>
>
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>
>
62274 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 9:48pm
Subject: Re: OT----puter question
Thanks for all the replies... Got it up and running on the new drive..
Thanks again
Keith
62275 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 6:00pm
Subject: Re: Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Okay...I see how it is now Rick :) That is just plain cold when you get
tagged in your own driveway. Good one :)
Sharky
PS....go check your windshield :)
62276 From: Keith Haw <khaw@n...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:02pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
Jason
Sent you an email
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 9:02 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [FS] Shop Tools (Brand new)
> Hi there,
>
> I have decided not to go into the rocker fab business, so I am
> selling the chop saw and drill press I bought last month. Both have
> only been used once.
>
> B.O. or interesting trades!
>
> Jason LaLiberty
>
> 602-595-5739
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
62277 From: Dockmond Tse <j4x4dock@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:08pm
Subject: Crown King Sign up
Can't seem to add my name to the list. I plan on going at 7:30 W/ Pat Dick
as the Trip Leader. Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles going at a
specific time... Or is it alright to just show up....
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62278 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:32pm
Subject: RE: Crown King Sign up
Did you Join the Club and create a profile? This must first be done to
add your name to any of the club runs.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Dockmond Tse [mailto:j4x4dock@h...]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:08 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Sign up
Can't seem to add my name to the list. I plan on going at 7:30 W/ Pat
Dick
as the Trip Leader. Is there a limit on the amount of vehicles going at
a
specific time... Or is it alright to just show up....
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62279 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 10:37pm
Subject: Re: Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Slick, Rick! That is pretty good.
----- Original Message -----
From: sharxjeep@cs.com
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:01 PM
To: 4x4xfun1@cox.net; AZ_VJC@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Tag! I'm not it anymore!
Okay...I see how it is now Rick :) That is just plain cold when you get
tagged in your own driveway. Good one :)
Sharky
PS....go check your windshield :)
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62280 From: daveaapa <daveaz@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 1:51am
Subject: Re: [FS] Full Doors 2 Trade
probably a stupid question, but thought i should ask.....do yj doors
fit tj door opening?......just got tj and was wondering.
thanks, dave--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
wrote:
>
62281 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 3:42am
Subject: What happened to us?
Man, I used to look forward to reading my e-mails.... Its been a drag lately :(
Hopefully this CK run will re-unite us :)
Cheers,
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62282 From: roy95yj <roy95yj@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 5:16am
Subject: YJ Roll Cage , rock guards by Hunter-Offroad
Hunter_Offroad built my roll cage. Pictures are located under
Roy95YJ in the photos file. John did a good job, I replaced my OEM
cage, the new cage is bolted to the floor and wheelwell, the rock
guard was also built by John, they are welded to the frame.
A few rattle can of paint, and I'm good to go....
now to start saving up for a new driveline and lockers.
Once again, thanks John.
Roy
62283 From: Robert McNeeley <fatbob309@e...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:24am
Subject: Re: Nice cj 4sale at rogers and longmore
Is that the one that has "Made in Japan" on the front bumper?
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "nnotes" <nnote@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Nice cj 4sale at rogers and longmore
> There's a nice Yellow lifted CJ for sale at Rogers and Longmore (just
> south of the 60). Is this a member Jeep? Nice ride!
> Nick
>
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62284 From: Jake Wagner <jakewagner@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:54am
Subject: Closed BLM Land being abused by OHVs
Hi All:
I have a few friends that live near the Agua Fria Riverbed on Camelback. Every afternoon/evening I've driven by I've seen people down there riding.
About 6-8 weeks ago signs were put up stating "BLM LAND, Closed, no OHVs, etc." Now some bright idiots decided to paint over them in the same brown color so they could say the didn't know.
I don't want "us" to look bad, but I feel obligated to call it in and see they get fined. The concrete barriers still say no trespassing etc on them and it really burns me up seeing people are abusing a closed area. Yes it's one area, but BLM or STL Personnel will look at this area and use it against us when they decide to close an area, such as at Land Use Meetings, etc. I know I haven't been to any meetings, but what could we do to stop these people from going in there? Regardless I know some idiots will be cute and continue to go in there because we all know rules were made to be broken. I feel they should suffer the consequences.
Back in Upstate NY where I'm from there are NO OHV areas in the area I grew up in. You'd have to drive 3-5 hours in order to drive to an area to ride a quad, and longer to go Jeeping. Back home if your caught on private land or closed area and your caught, they confiscate your snowmobile or quad on the spot. Yes, I was young and dumb, I'll admit my gf and I never got caught. But it's not hard to outrun a squad car on a trail wide enough for a quad. My point is I don't want these closed areas being abused to affect the ones that still are open.
Flame Away, I have thick skin!
Jake
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62285 From: jeepinduke <jmueller@d...>
Date: Tue Aug 6, 2002 6:57am
Subject: Help with AC/Htr. Blower motor
I have a 99 TJ, the blower speed selector swich has four positions on
it. about a month ago position three quit working. then yesterday all
speeds quit working. I checked the fuse and the switch, both are
good. any one else have this problem. any ideas on how to fix this
cheep.