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62086 From: garygardner47 <imotohere@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 10:10am
Subject: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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62087 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 7:00am
Subject: Re: Re: Would anyone be interested in a calendar with miller girls o...
Theresa must have been sitting near by during that responce huh Scott? :)
Sharky
62088 From: Chris Meyer <chrismeyer@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:10am
Subject: RE: question about 8.8s
Bruce,
I myself have not done it but it is a very common swap for a yj! Check out
MORE's kit, which has pretty much all brackets necessary. Also, if you go
out to www.google.com and search for "ford 8.8 yj" I am sure you would come
up with hundreds of write-up's on this very swap.
It is something I plan to do in the near future! One thing to look for is an
8.8 out of a 95+ explorer or mountaineer. If you get lucky, you may find one
with stock 4.10's and a limited slip diff.
Let us know where you find the Axle and how much you spend for it. They tend
to be a bit pricey since they are so popular.
Hope this helps!
Chris Meyer (94 YJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; obh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer into a yj.
I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup. I've heard
along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil bolt right
up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
Bruce
93 YJ
4.0 5spd.
Locked front and rear
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62089 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:28am
Subject: Re: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
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Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at 07:20:41:
Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at speed.
The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one or both tires will slip.
I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch was buried in mud/snow.
Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff. Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe" for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on the front. Only initiate them when off road.
-Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: garygardner47
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
62090 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:32am
Subject: RE: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Wow&.imagine that&.still using lockers and limited slips some 17,000 + years from now. Jeeps rule!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: CoyotEddie [mailto:coyoteddie@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 11:29 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; garygardner47
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
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Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at 07:20:41:
Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at speed.
The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one or both tires will slip.
I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch was buried in mud/snow.
Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff. Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe" for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on the front. Only initiate them when off road.
-Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: garygardner47
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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62091 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:55am
Subject: [Tag] Need Tucson Volunteer.
I need a Tucson member to volunteer to be “it.”
All I need is a mailing address. First one I receive, I will send the tag to.
- Mike
62092 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:56am
Subject: [Tag]
Westside Tag! Found a car, that while it technically didn’t have an AzVJC sticker, I felt it qualified for a tag based on it’s personalized license plate “AZVJC”
:D
- Mike
62093 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:25pm
Subject: Re: question about 8.8s
Scott Maiden has one in his YJ, doesn't he? James Towle has one
in his TJ. I have one sitting in my garage waiting for gears, and
then it'll be under MY TJ, thanks to a lot of help from James Towle
and John Kanicsar (Hunter Offroad). I got mine here in town for $300
with new pads, rotors, and calipers. (The whole axle was from a
brand new and totalled Explorer.) Check www.car-part.com
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Chris Meyer" <chrismeyer@q...> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> I myself have not done it but it is a very common swap for a yj!
Check out
> MORE's kit, which has pretty much all brackets necessary. Also, if
you go
> out to www.google.com and search for "ford 8.8 yj" I am sure you
would come
> up with hundreds of write-up's on this very swap.
>
> It is something I plan to do in the near future! One thing to look
for is an
> 8.8 out of a 95+ explorer or mountaineer. If you get lucky, you may
find one
> with stock 4.10's and a limited slip diff.
>
> Let us know where you find the Axle and how much you spend for it.
They tend
> to be a bit pricey since they are so popular.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Chris Meyer (94 YJ)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...; obh@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
>
>
> Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer
into a yj.
> I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup.
I've heard
> along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil
bolt right
> up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly
appreciated.
> Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
> Bruce
> 93 YJ
> 4.0 5spd.
> Locked front and rear
>
>
>
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62094 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:27pm
Subject: Re: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
So is FIRE, dude, but without it your internal combustion engine
would be a pretty elaborate air pump...
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
> [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ VMag WWW Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ]
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
> Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
>
> In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at
07:20:41:
>
> Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at
speed.
>
> The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and
provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one
or both tires will slip.
>
> I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and
limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and
into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch
was buried in mud/snow.
>
> Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have
locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and
their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on
the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff.
Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well
documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe"
for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer
who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
>
> One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on
the front. Only initiate them when off road.
>
> -Ben
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: garygardner47
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
>
>
> Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the
axle
> disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
> still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
> pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling
problem.
> Thanks in advance,
> Gary
62095 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:54pm
Subject: Re: Check out the new 5 point harnesses
Nice harnesses!!! No more reclining naps for you though! :)
~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
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Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: AZ_VJC
Cc: mhansel@acctechinc.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Check out the new 5 point harnesses
I found time to install my new 5 point harnesses today.
I'd like to thank Wayne Richardson over at OR Fab for welding in the horizontal bar and tabs for the eye bolts. It took a bit of extra work to bend it to clear the seats yet fit inside the new Bestop Halftop. He did a great job!
And a special thanks to my wife Theresa for getting these for my upcoming birthday on Sept 1st. Over the last couple of years she has bought me a Warn 9500 winch, Mastercraft Racing Seats, and now the 5 point harnesses. I guess I better keep her around for another year. There's those high pinion Dynatrac Pro Rock 60's that I still want. ;)
Now if I can only remember to close the door BEFORE I put the harnesses on.
Scott K
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62096 From: azxjman <azxjman@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
62097 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 1:25pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62098 From: Katie Fasso <crazybaney@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:07pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62099 From: Mitch Woodward <mitchwoodward@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, she's back...and annoying as ever!
----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Fasso
To: Hackle ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62100 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:14pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
I just picked up a nice diamond plate box from Lowes. They had a better
selection than the Home Depot I went to.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62101 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:34pm
Subject: RE: question about 8.8s
Talk to the Rock Rats. Scott M, Hackle, Randy Davis, and others have all
done this swap into their YJ's. James Towle also did this swap into a
TJ.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; obh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer into a
yj.
I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup. I've
heard
along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil bolt
right
up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly
appreciated.
Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
Bruce
93 YJ
4.0 5spd.
Locked front and rear
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62102 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:41pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
Nick Gasmena - nickg@4x4jeep.net
-----------------------
Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial Freedom!
Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
-----------------------
My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
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----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Fasso
To: Hackle ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62103 From: az_squarelights <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:12pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone else?
Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-off,
so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
Nick L.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove
her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to
buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
>
> ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
>
> Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> -----------------------
> Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
Freedom!
> Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> -----------------------
> My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katie Fasso
> To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
THANKS
>
> Hackle wrote:
>
> Home Depot has some. Jim F
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
member. "Groucho
> Marx"
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> http://www.rockrats.org/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
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62104 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:27pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
She has her number on there.... lets get about 100 people together
and eash call her and offer her $50 for it. She'll be answering the
phone all week! LOL Maybe then she'll try being a little
nicer!! :D -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...> wrote:
> I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone
else?
> Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
>
> P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-
off,
> so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
>
> Nick L.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we
remove
> her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations
to
> buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> >
> > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> >
> > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> > -----------------------
> > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> Freedom!
> > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> > -----------------------
> > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katie Fasso
> > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
> >
> > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing
it
> is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
> 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
> THANKS
> >
> > Hackle wrote:
> >
> > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
> member. "Groucho
> > Marx"
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> > http://www.rockrats.org/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
> >
> > Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
> >
> > Peter
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62105 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:36pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
She sounds very classy and like she really wants to sell her Jeep....I mean
who wouldn't buy a Jeep from someone who told them to f-off. With kindness
like that I'm surprised you didn't offer her double her asking price8>)
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@hotmail.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:12 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone else?
> Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
>
> P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-off,
> so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
>
> Nick L.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove
> her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to
> buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> >
> > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> >
> > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> > -----------------------
> > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> Freedom!
> > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> > -----------------------
> > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katie Fasso
> > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
> >
> > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
> is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
> 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
> THANKS
> >
> > Hackle wrote:
> >
> > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
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> >
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62106 From: Nasser <nasser88@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:38pm
Subject: RE: Thanks goes out to the 8/3 Martinez group
Larry,
What a great group we had yesterday, heck no one was annoyed about the
breakage. It can happen to anyone. Most everybody pitched in and helped,
and the rest patiently waited. What better place to stop and take the
nature in that Martinez Canyon.
It was great wheeling with you again,
Nasser
-----Original Message-----
From: highjeeps [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks goes out to the 8/3 Martinez group
I'd like to thank the 8/3 Martinez Canyon group for helping me get my
busted axle/u-joint fixed. This came in the form of providing spare
parts, lending tools, turning wrenches, providing repair directions,
and otherwise being patient while trip progress was held up for more
than an hour (in the hot sun, no less). Thanks Steve Sample for
lending my your YJ spare parts. I'll be buying a new stuff and
return your spare back to you as soon as possible.
Thanks again ... and I had a great time.
See you all again on future adventures,
Larry
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62107 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:52pm
Subject: update to poor drive shaft service
Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dicks Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-tubed it because they claimed it would not balance.
I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with needle bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was surprised to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete grease job on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our summer was spent NOT wheelin, and with only one trip to Moab since October, I really havent rolled up that much mileage.
So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the u-joints out to grease them (again).
As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large round cup , so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust boot if you would). You can see it here, http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose it is possible that it may have fallen off since I had the work done this past Easter. But&.I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that Dicks Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did the work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as there were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like the problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle bearings when I assembled them last October.
No&.I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did, someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be cool. They are not worth the trouble.
IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You can certainly spend your money there if you wish, but Ill not pay them another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data point that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone should have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle bearings, etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you would be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already proven that to you.
Just thought I would share my recent discovery. Ill be looking for a new shop in a bit since I dont expect this drive shaft to last very long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and moisture, I dont think it will last too much longer.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
62108 From: trmn8rjn98 <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:00pm
Subject: Re: update to poor drive shaft service
Don't bother to try AZ drivelines. I bought a Jeep with thier drive
shafts from a board member & the front one had broken apart where
they welded the slip part on no penetration at all. I have read other
bad stories on here as well.
Just my input.
John
I always had good luck at dicks but now am a bit worried.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dick's
> Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my
> front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-
tubed
> it because they claimed it would not balance.
>
>
>
> I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with
needle
> bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
>
>
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking
> again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was
surprised
> to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete
grease job
> on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our
summer was
> spent NOT wheelin', and with only one trip to Moab since October, I
> really haven't rolled up that much mileage.
>
>
>
> So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the
> u-joints out to grease them (again).
>
>
>
> As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not
> right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October
> write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
>
>
>
> The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large
round "cup",
> so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust
boot
> if you would). You can see it here,
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
>
>
>
> Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose
it is
> possible that it may have "fallen" off since I had the work done
this
> past Easter. But..I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that
> Dick's Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did
the
> work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as
there
> were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like
the
> problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle
> bearings when I assembled them last October.
>
>
>
> No..I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did,
> someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be
> cool. They are not worth the trouble.
>
>
>
> IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You
can
> certainly spend your money there if you wish, but I'll not pay them
> another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data
point
> that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone
should
> have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle
bearings,
> etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you
would
> be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already
> proven that to you.
>
>
>
> Just thought I would share my recent discovery. I'll be looking
for a
> new shop in a bit since I don't expect this drive shaft to last very
> long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and
> moisture, I don't think it will last too much longer.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
62109 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:01pm
Subject: [FS] misc jeep stuff
Price: best offers
Contact: krrescue53@msn.com
I have some misc stuff for both CJ and TJ
TJ: front and rear bumpers with ends good shape (color faded only no scratches or dents), upper door surrounds for full steel doors with light scuffs (these are $180 each new), black soft top with small hole on pass side at corner,
CJ: bright aluminum rocker mouldings, soft half doors with uppers spice color, tan dash pad good cond 2 small cracks on corners easily repaired. contact tim
tim van de grift
62110 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
You guys are worse then she is!!
As far as I can tell it is Jeep related. To me it looks like she is
trying to help out a fellow Jeeper! WTF is wrong with trying to sell
your Jeep on this board? To me she sounds a bit desperate and needs to
sell it ASAP. If she posted every 5 minutes or hour, yes I would too
have a problem with that. But she doesn't. I would just leave her posts
alone. You're only helping her out by bringing attention to her. Let's
see... She posts once you guy repost it 5 times. Hummm
Oh and yes I have read every one of her emails. She appears to be new
behind a keyboard and instead of helping her some of you are being down
right rude to her.
Her vulgar email was off list. Apparently it was one of you guys that
made it public.
You'll get a lot better response being nice instead of being rude. You
guys are making this list look bad. I think this goes back to what Bill
M. was saying. Something about the quality of post that are happening
recently.
Joey K
93YJ
PS I don't wear a flame suit because there is no heat. :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Acuna Family [mailto:mkacuna@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_squarelights
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> She sounds very classy and like she really wants to sell her
> Jeep....I mean who wouldn't buy a Jeep from someone who told
> them to f-off. With kindness like that I'm surprised you
> didn't offer her double her asking price8>)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:12 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> > I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has
> anyone else? Go
> > ahead and cast my vote Nick.
> >
> > P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me
> to F-off,
> > so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
> >
> > Nick L.
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this,
> we remove
> > her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking
> donations to
> > buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> > >
> > > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> > >
> > > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> > > -----------------------
> > > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> > Freedom!
> > > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> > > -----------------------
> > > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Katie Fasso
> > > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> > >
> > >
> > > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
> > is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE
> SIX 158,000
> > MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
> > >
> > > Hackle wrote:
> > >
> > > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> > >
> > > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
> > member. "Groucho
> > > Marx"
> > > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> > > http://www.rockrats.org/
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
> > >
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62086 From: garygardner47 <imotohere@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 10:10am
Subject: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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62087 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 7:00am
Subject: Re: Re: Would anyone be interested in a calendar with miller girls o...
Theresa must have been sitting near by during that responce huh Scott? :)
Sharky
62088 From: Chris Meyer <chrismeyer@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:10am
Subject: RE: question about 8.8s
Bruce,
I myself have not done it but it is a very common swap for a yj! Check out
MORE's kit, which has pretty much all brackets necessary. Also, if you go
out to www.google.com and search for "ford 8.8 yj" I am sure you would come
up with hundreds of write-up's on this very swap.
It is something I plan to do in the near future! One thing to look for is an
8.8 out of a 95+ explorer or mountaineer. If you get lucky, you may find one
with stock 4.10's and a limited slip diff.
Let us know where you find the Axle and how much you spend for it. They tend
to be a bit pricey since they are so popular.
Hope this helps!
Chris Meyer (94 YJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; obh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer into a yj.
I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup. I've heard
along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil bolt right
up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
Bruce
93 YJ
4.0 5spd.
Locked front and rear
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62089 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:28am
Subject: Re: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
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Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at 07:20:41:
Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at speed.
The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one or both tires will slip.
I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch was buried in mud/snow.
Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff. Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe" for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on the front. Only initiate them when off road.
-Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: garygardner47
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
62090 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:32am
Subject: RE: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Wow&.imagine that&.still using lockers and limited slips some 17,000 + years from now. Jeeps rule!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: CoyotEddie [mailto:coyoteddie@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 11:29 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; garygardner47
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
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Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at 07:20:41:
Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at speed.
The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one or both tires will slip.
I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch was buried in mud/snow.
Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff. Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe" for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on the front. Only initiate them when off road.
-Ben
----- Original Message -----
From: garygardner47
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the axle
disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling problem.
Thanks in advance,
Gary
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62091 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:55am
Subject: [Tag] Need Tucson Volunteer.
I need a Tucson member to volunteer to be “it.”
All I need is a mailing address. First one I receive, I will send the tag to.
- Mike
62092 From: Mike Chatfield <Mike@A...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 11:56am
Subject: [Tag]
Westside Tag! Found a car, that while it technically didn’t have an AzVJC sticker, I felt it qualified for a tag based on it’s personalized license plate “AZVJC”
:D
- Mike
62093 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:25pm
Subject: Re: question about 8.8s
Scott Maiden has one in his YJ, doesn't he? James Towle has one
in his TJ. I have one sitting in my garage waiting for gears, and
then it'll be under MY TJ, thanks to a lot of help from James Towle
and John Kanicsar (Hunter Offroad). I got mine here in town for $300
with new pads, rotors, and calipers. (The whole axle was from a
brand new and totalled Explorer.) Check www.car-part.com
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "Chris Meyer" <chrismeyer@q...> wrote:
> Bruce,
>
> I myself have not done it but it is a very common swap for a yj!
Check out
> MORE's kit, which has pretty much all brackets necessary. Also, if
you go
> out to www.google.com and search for "ford 8.8 yj" I am sure you
would come
> up with hundreds of write-up's on this very swap.
>
> It is something I plan to do in the near future! One thing to look
for is an
> 8.8 out of a 95+ explorer or mountaineer. If you get lucky, you may
find one
> with stock 4.10's and a limited slip diff.
>
> Let us know where you find the Axle and how much you spend for it.
They tend
> to be a bit pricey since they are so popular.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Chris Meyer (94 YJ)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: az_vjc@y...; obh@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
>
>
> Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer
into a yj.
> I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup.
I've heard
> along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil
bolt right
> up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly
appreciated.
> Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
> Bruce
> 93 YJ
> 4.0 5spd.
> Locked front and rear
>
>
>
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62094 From: jeepindog <jeepindog@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:27pm
Subject: Re: 1 pc axles and a locker in front
So is FIRE, dude, but without it your internal combustion engine
would be a pretty elaborate air pump...
Lachlan
In az_vjc@y..., "CoyotEddie" <coyoteddie@e...> wrote:
> Front lockers are dangerous in some situations
> [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ VMag WWW Bulletin Board ] [ FAQ ]
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> Posted by Ben on October 20, 19100 at 10:16:19:
>
> In Reply to: Re: posted by lotzahp on October 20, 19100 at
07:20:41:
>
> Front limited slip and lockers are dangerous on slick roads at
speed.
>
> The fronts travel at greater differential speeds than the rears and
provide the steering. If the front diff should decide to lock up, one
or both tires will slip.
>
> I know from experience. Had a 1970 Toyota FJ40. Gleason rear and
limited slip front. First time skiing at Tahoe, slid off the road and
into a ditch that I couldn't get out of, even with 4x4 lo/lock. Winch
was buried in mud/snow.
>
> Tow truck operator who pulled me out said I most likely have
locking front, as he see's this all the time with "city" folks and
their nice shiny occasional and expensive 4x4's. He was wrong on
the "city" folks, but right on about the limited slip front diff.
Researched with my 4x4 buddies & reference material and it's well
documented that it's not advisable to put lockers and only a "maybe"
for limited slip on fronts, unless you are a serious offroad racer
who knows the limitations for paved road usage.
>
> One reason air lockers were invented. That would be nice to have on
the front. Only initiate them when off road.
>
> -Ben
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: garygardner47
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 10:10 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] 1 pc axles and a locker in front
>
>
> Any problems with running a locker in front and not having the
axle
> disconnect? I believe 95 and newer Jeeps have no disconnect and
> still use lockers in front. I am considering using the stronger 1
> pc. axle with the larger u-joints if there isn't a handling
problem.
> Thanks in advance,
> Gary
62095 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 0:54pm
Subject: Re: Check out the new 5 point harnesses
Nice harnesses!!! No more reclining naps for you though! :)
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From: Scott Kruize
To: AZ_VJC
Cc: mhansel@acctechinc.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Check out the new 5 point harnesses
I found time to install my new 5 point harnesses today.
I'd like to thank Wayne Richardson over at OR Fab for welding in the horizontal bar and tabs for the eye bolts. It took a bit of extra work to bend it to clear the seats yet fit inside the new Bestop Halftop. He did a great job!
And a special thanks to my wife Theresa for getting these for my upcoming birthday on Sept 1st. Over the last couple of years she has bought me a Warn 9500 winch, Mastercraft Racing Seats, and now the 5 point harnesses. I guess I better keep her around for another year. There's those high pinion Dynatrac Pro Rock 60's that I still want. ;)
Now if I can only remember to close the door BEFORE I put the harnesses on.
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62096 From: azxjman <azxjman@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
62097 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 1:25pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
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From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
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62098 From: Katie Fasso <crazybaney@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:07pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
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From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62099 From: Mitch Woodward <mitchwoodward@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, she's back...and annoying as ever!
----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Fasso
To: Hackle ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
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Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
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62100 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:14pm
Subject: RE: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
I just picked up a nice diamond plate box from Lowes. They had a better
selection than the Home Depot I went to.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
Peter
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62101 From: Scott Kruize <skruize@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:34pm
Subject: RE: question about 8.8s
Talk to the Rock Rats. Scott M, Hackle, Randy Davis, and others have all
done this swap into their YJ's. James Towle also did this swap into a
TJ.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: bruce stropp [mailto:jeep4offrd@h...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 9:52 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; obh@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] question about 8.8s
Has anyone installed one of the 8.8 rear ends out of the explorer into a
yj.
I'm considering going this route because of the rear disk setup. I've
heard
along the way that it's as durable as the 44's. And also it wil bolt
right
up with very little modifications. Any input would be greatly
appreciated.
Also, is there a certain year I should be looking for.
Bruce
93 YJ
4.0 5spd.
Locked front and rear
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62102 From: Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 2:41pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Katie Fasso
To: Hackle ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
Hackle wrote:
Home Depot has some. Jim F
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho
Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
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Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
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62103 From: az_squarelights <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:12pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone else?
Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-off,
so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
Nick L.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove
her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to
buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
>
> ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
>
> Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> -----------------------
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Katie Fasso
> To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
THANKS
>
> Hackle wrote:
>
> Home Depot has some. Jim F
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
member. "Groucho
> Marx"
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> http://www.rockrats.org/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
>
> Peter
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>
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62104 From: g_rob_williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:27pm
Subject: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
She has her number on there.... lets get about 100 people together
and eash call her and offer her $50 for it. She'll be answering the
phone all week! LOL Maybe then she'll try being a little
nicer!! :D -Rob
--- In az_vjc@y..., "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...> wrote:
> I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone
else?
> Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
>
> P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-
off,
> so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
>
> Nick L.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we
remove
> her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations
to
> buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> >
> > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> >
> > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> > -----------------------
> > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> Freedom!
> > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> > -----------------------
> > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katie Fasso
> > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
> >
> > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing
it
> is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
> 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
> THANKS
> >
> > Hackle wrote:
> >
> > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
> member. "Groucho
> > Marx"
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> > http://www.rockrats.org/
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> > To: az_vjc@y...
> > Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
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> > Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
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62105 From: The Acuna Family <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:36pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
She sounds very classy and like she really wants to sell her Jeep....I mean
who wouldn't buy a Jeep from someone who told them to f-off. With kindness
like that I'm surprised you didn't offer her double her asking price8>)
Mike
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From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@hotmail.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:12 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has anyone else?
> Go ahead and cast my vote Nick.
>
> P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me to F-off,
> so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
>
> Nick L.
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this, we remove
> her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking donations to
> buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> >
> > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> >
> > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> > -----------------------
> > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> Freedom!
> > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
> > -----------------------
> > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Katie Fasso
> > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> >
> >
> > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
> is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE SIX
> 158,000 MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY
> THANKS
> >
> > Hackle wrote:
> >
> > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> >
> > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
> member. "Groucho
> > Marx"
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> > http://www.rockrats.org/
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62106 From: Nasser <nasser88@c...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:38pm
Subject: RE: Thanks goes out to the 8/3 Martinez group
Larry,
What a great group we had yesterday, heck no one was annoyed about the
breakage. It can happen to anyone. Most everybody pitched in and helped,
and the rest patiently waited. What better place to stop and take the
nature in that Martinez Canyon.
It was great wheeling with you again,
Nasser
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From: highjeeps [mailto:highupjeep@q...]
Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:06 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks goes out to the 8/3 Martinez group
I'd like to thank the 8/3 Martinez Canyon group for helping me get my
busted axle/u-joint fixed. This came in the form of providing spare
parts, lending tools, turning wrenches, providing repair directions,
and otherwise being patient while trip progress was held up for more
than an hour (in the hot sun, no less). Thanks Steve Sample for
lending my your YJ spare parts. I'll be buying a new stuff and
return your spare back to you as soon as possible.
Thanks again ... and I had a great time.
See you all again on future adventures,
Larry
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62107 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:52pm
Subject: update to poor drive shaft service
Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dicks Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-tubed it because they claimed it would not balance.
I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with needle bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was surprised to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete grease job on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our summer was spent NOT wheelin, and with only one trip to Moab since October, I really havent rolled up that much mileage.
So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the u-joints out to grease them (again).
As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large round cup , so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust boot if you would). You can see it here, http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose it is possible that it may have fallen off since I had the work done this past Easter. But&.I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that Dicks Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did the work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as there were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like the problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle bearings when I assembled them last October.
No&.I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did, someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be cool. They are not worth the trouble.
IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You can certainly spend your money there if you wish, but Ill not pay them another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data point that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone should have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle bearings, etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you would be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already proven that to you.
Just thought I would share my recent discovery. Ill be looking for a new shop in a bit since I dont expect this drive shaft to last very long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and moisture, I dont think it will last too much longer.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
62108 From: trmn8rjn98 <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:00pm
Subject: Re: update to poor drive shaft service
Don't bother to try AZ drivelines. I bought a Jeep with thier drive
shafts from a board member & the front one had broken apart where
they welded the slip part on no penetration at all. I have read other
bad stories on here as well.
Just my input.
John
I always had good luck at dicks but now am a bit worried.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Some of you may remember that I posted my disappointment with Dick's
> Driveshaft shop back around the Easter time frame. I had dented my
> front driveshaft and took it to them for a balance job. They re-
tubed
> it because they claimed it would not balance.
>
>
>
> I posted that I was unhappy with their work as I got it back with
needle
> bearings missing from the front axle end u-joint. Details/pics at:
>
>
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/shaft-1.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> On my last FJ run, I noticed that my front drive shaft was squeaking
> again (TJ owners know all to well about this problem). I was
surprised
> to notice it since I had just tore it down and did a complete
grease job
> on the CV u-joints this past October. Given that much of our
summer was
> spent NOT wheelin', and with only one trip to Moab since October, I
> really haven't rolled up that much mileage.
>
>
>
> So, yesterday morning, I dropped the front drive shaft and took the
> u-joints out to grease them (again).
>
>
>
> As I was taking things apart, I kept thinking that something was not
> right. I took at look at the pics on my web site (from the October
> write-up) and quickly realized what was wrong.
>
>
>
> The centering ball in the CV joint lightly rides in a large
round "cup",
> so to speak, that helps keep it free from dust and moisture (a dust
boot
> if you would). You can see it here,
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/ds-13.jpg
>
>
>
> Well, guess what is missing from my front drive shaft? I suppose
it is
> possible that it may have "fallen" off since I had the work done
this
> past Easter. But..I really doubt it. I feel quite confident that
> Dick's Driveshaft shop left it off (or broke it off?) when they did
the
> work. It was obvious that they had taken the CV u-joints apart as
there
> were two end caps with missing needle bearings in them (just like
the
> problem with the axle end u-joint). There were NO missing needle
> bearings when I assembled them last October.
>
>
>
> No..I did not go down there to talk to them about this. If I did,
> someone would have to be springing for my bond and that would not be
> cool. They are not worth the trouble.
>
>
>
> IMHO, this shop puts out some poor quality work at the best. You
can
> certainly spend your money there if you wish, but I'll not pay them
> another $100 to screw up a drive shaft. Yes, it is only one data
point
> that I am offering as proof. But there is NO reason that anyone
should
> have to completely tear down a CV drive shaft to check needle
bearings,
> etc. after they get it home. Since they can not be trusted, you
would
> be a fool for not QAing the work yourself, true? They have already
> proven that to you.
>
>
>
> Just thought I would share my recent discovery. I'll be looking
for a
> new shop in a bit since I don't expect this drive shaft to last very
> long. With nothing protecting the centering ball from dirt and
> moisture, I don't think it will last too much longer.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
> Stu Olson
>
> www.stu-offroad.com
62109 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:01pm
Subject: [FS] misc jeep stuff
Price: best offers
Contact: krrescue53@msn.com
I have some misc stuff for both CJ and TJ
TJ: front and rear bumpers with ends good shape (color faded only no scratches or dents), upper door surrounds for full steel doors with light scuffs (these are $180 each new), black soft top with small hole on pass side at corner,
CJ: bright aluminum rocker mouldings, soft half doors with uppers spice color, tan dash pad good cond 2 small cracks on corners easily repaired. contact tim
tim van de grift
62110 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
You guys are worse then she is!!
As far as I can tell it is Jeep related. To me it looks like she is
trying to help out a fellow Jeeper! WTF is wrong with trying to sell
your Jeep on this board? To me she sounds a bit desperate and needs to
sell it ASAP. If she posted every 5 minutes or hour, yes I would too
have a problem with that. But she doesn't. I would just leave her posts
alone. You're only helping her out by bringing attention to her. Let's
see... She posts once you guy repost it 5 times. Hummm
Oh and yes I have read every one of her emails. She appears to be new
behind a keyboard and instead of helping her some of you are being down
right rude to her.
Her vulgar email was off list. Apparently it was one of you guys that
made it public.
You'll get a lot better response being nice instead of being rude. You
guys are making this list look bad. I think this goes back to what Bill
M. was saying. Something about the quality of post that are happening
recently.
Joey K
93YJ
PS I don't wear a flame suit because there is no heat. :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Acuna Family [mailto:mkacuna@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:37 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_squarelights
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> She sounds very classy and like she really wants to sell her
> Jeep....I mean who wouldn't buy a Jeep from someone who told
> them to f-off. With kindness like that I'm surprised you
> didn't offer her double her asking price8>)
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "az_squarelights" <squarelights@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:12 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
>
>
> > I havnt seen her post on the classified section. Has
> anyone else? Go
> > ahead and cast my vote Nick.
> >
> > P.S. Last time i made her an offer on her jeep she told me
> to F-off,
> > so if your going to make her an offer be careful.
> >
> > Nick L.
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Nick Gasmena" <NickG@4...> wrote:
> > > Can we take a vote... One more annoying e-mail like this,
> we remove
> > her from the mailing list? That... or Ill start taking
> donations to
> > buy the flippin jeep from her to stop the e-mails! :)
> > >
> > > ~~~~ Have an EXCEL-ent Day!! ~~~~
> > >
> > > Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
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> > > Http://www.excelir.com/greatrates - Your gateway to Financial
> > Freedom!
> > > Home Office: 602-595-7734 Cell: 602-400-8896
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> > > My Jeep Pictures - http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> > > My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Katie Fasso
> > > To: Hackle ; az_vjc@y...
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 2:07 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> > >
> > >
> > > help me sell my jeep i have put in on az_vjc.com but nothing it
> > is a 1981 AMC JEEP BLK CJ 8 SCRAMBLER 258 ORIGINAL IN LINE
> SIX 158,000
> > MILES AND ASKING FOR 2,500.00 623-556-0155 BE HOME ALL DAY THANKS
> > >
> > > Hackle wrote:
> > >
> > > Home Depot has some. Jim F
> > >
> > > I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
> > member. "Groucho
> > > Marx"
> > > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> > > http://www.rockrats.org/
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: azxjman [mailto:azxjman@c...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 1:19 PM
> > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] OT - TRUCK TOOL BOX
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone, know who carries a good selection on truck tool boxes
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> > > Peter
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