Sedona/Broken Arrow on Nov 10th [Archive]

BillR

11-02-2007, 12:03 PM

I'm itching to the the trails again! We'll meet at the Broken Arrow trailhead Saturday morning around 8:30am and leave from there. There'll probably be some NAXJA guys there also.
Post up here so I can get a good headcount.
Let's wheel!!:)

BillR

11-02-2007, 12:29 PM

You can PM me also, and I'll keep track that way. If the group gets too big, I can arrange for another leader for a second group.
Thanks.

RonsTJ

11-02-2007, 12:53 PM

Hi Bill,

Are you going to do any other trails after BA?

Ron

CaptainMorgan

11-02-2007, 01:31 PM

I might be in, we're going this sunday. Meeting at Farabee's at 8...you should join us. Im taking the CJ on it's maiden voyage on the rocks.

Miles2go1979

11-02-2007, 02:11 PM

My wife just told me to get out of the house on that Saturday! And i've been wanting to go up there for a while. Anyone up for some camping while we're at it?

BillR

11-02-2007, 02:34 PM

I might be in, we're going this sunday. Meeting at Farabee's at 8...you should join us. Im taking the CJ on it's maiden voyage on the rocks.

Sundays are out for us, unless you want to do a LATE afternoon run. We have church that day.
Come on down on the 10th. It'll be great!

BillR

11-02-2007, 02:35 PM

Hi Bill,

Are you going to do any other trails after BA?

Ron

I doubt it, but anything's possible...:D

Miles2go1979

11-02-2007, 02:47 PM

Hi Bill,

Are you going to do any other trails after BA?

Ron

If we can get someone to lead on some other trails, I'd be up for spending the whole day up there. Find some place to set up camp for the night. I don't have to work on Monday so I might just stay Sunday night too...

BillR

11-02-2007, 02:51 PM

BillR

11-02-2007, 05:54 PM

New schedule...let's get together for breakfast before the run at The Coffee Pot. Let's all meet at 7AM there. That will also give the folks who aren't sure where the trailhead is an easier place to find. The Coffee Pot is right on the main street in West Sedona. For those who want to just meet at the trail, the group will be there around 9AM or so and we'll leave right after airdown.
See you there!

SEDONA RICK

11-02-2007, 06:13 PM

If we can get someone to lead on some other trails, I'd be up for spending the whole day up there. Find some place to set up camp for the night. I don't have to work on Monday so I might just stay Sunday night too...
I'M RUNNING PAYETT DRAW ON SAT 11.10. BUT WILL BE BACK IN SEDONA ON SUN 11.11. IF I DON'T BREAK MY JUNK UP IN THE PINES I WOULD LEAD ANYTHING IN THE VERDE VALLEY. SMASHER?:D

BillR

11-02-2007, 06:16 PM

Sunday is out for me, but I'd be in for a Monday run on the 12th or a short late afternoon run on the 11th.
Cliffhanger?

BillR

11-03-2007, 06:24 PM

I'm getting lots of good feedback.
It should be a great day!:cool:

Hivemind

11-03-2007, 06:30 PM

could I do BA in a stocker? Would y'all mind a newbie to standard tranny trying to figger it out with ya up there, or is that too much?

BillR

11-03-2007, 06:54 PM

could I do BA in a stocker? Would y'all mind a newbie to standard tranny trying to figger it out with ya up there, or is that too much?

Come on along! You may rub bottom a few times in a stocker, but that's what skids are for!:D
You won't have any problems.

CaptainMorgan

11-03-2007, 07:11 PM

Looks like I am in for this one now...hopefully I get the Jeep ready...Got a new clutch to put in too, along with replacing the head gasket.

BillR

11-03-2007, 07:23 PM

Looks like I am in for this one now...hopefully I get the Jeep ready...Got a new clutch to put in too, along with replacing the head gasket.
That's awesome Morgan!
It'll be a good one.

BillR

11-03-2007, 08:14 PM

Looks like I am in for this one now...hopefully I get the Jeep ready...
Mine's about ready. I even swapped back to the hard top already.;)
What's up w/the TJ?

CaptainMorgan

11-03-2007, 08:37 PM

Mine's about ready. I even swapped back to the hard top already.;)
What's up w/the TJ?

The tranny went out again:mad:

BillR

11-03-2007, 08:46 PM

The tranny went out again:mad:
Under warranty, I hope...:eek:

CaptainMorgan

11-03-2007, 08:47 PM

Under warranty, I hope...:eek:

I hope so too...I think it will work out but I havent found out for sure just yet.

BillR

11-03-2007, 09:09 PM

I hope so too...I think it will work out but I havent found out for sure just yet.

That sucks...let me know if I can help.

BillR

11-03-2007, 09:51 PM

The tranny went out again:mad:
What tranny do you have?

CaptainMorgan

11-03-2007, 10:19 PM

NSG370...the wonderful new 6-speed.

Hivemind

11-03-2007, 10:36 PM

R.I.P Dimebag 12/08/04

Hope ya get the tranny worked out, lookin' forward to meeting you
Southernmisfit (http://www.aznightwolf.com/SM/tribute.htm)

Hivemind

11-03-2007, 10:38 PM

Come on along! You may rub bottom a few times in a stocker, but that's what skids are for!:D
You won't have any problems.

SWEET,..Count me and the missus in!

CaptainMorgan

11-03-2007, 10:52 PM

Hope ya get the tranny worked out, lookin' forward to meeting you
Southernmisfit (http://www.aznightwolf.com/SM/tribute.htm)

Well, at this point I am planning on bringing the CJ...which I suppose has it's own tranny issues too...I think I can do the clutch and whatnot done in a week...

Cool site BTW.

Miles2go1979

11-03-2007, 11:27 PM

I'M RUNNING PAYETT DRAW ON SAT 11.10. BUT WILL BE BACK IN SEDONA ON SUN 11.11. IF I DON'T BREAK MY JUNK UP IN THE PINES I WOULD LEAD ANYTHING IN THE VERDE VALLEY. SMASHER?:D

How long does it take to get through broken arrow?
I haven't been on any trails in Sedona yet. My jeep isn't very built, but she does well. I got 31s and a 2 inch lift.

Are you camping at payett? I might end up going there if no one wants to camp in Sedona.

BillR

11-04-2007, 05:59 AM

How long does it take to get through broken arrow?
I haven't been on any trails in Sedona yet. My jeep isn't very built, but she does well. I got 31s and a 2 inch lift.

Are you camping at payett? I might end up going there if no one wants to camp in Sedona.
IMO, Payette Draw would NOT be a good idea w/31s and a 2" lift.:eek:
That trail's tougher than anything Sedona has.

Sedona Jeep School

11-04-2007, 06:59 AM

I may be going on the Payette run, so not likely to be around. FYI, Veteran's Day Weekend will be VERY busy on Broken Arrow--make your plans to break up into small groups. ;)

BillR

11-04-2007, 07:29 AM

Veteran's Day Weekend will be VERY busy on Broken Arrow--make your plans to break up into small groups. ;)
Small groups, definitely! We may need another leader if we get alot more signups....

BillR

11-04-2007, 12:07 PM

Note the edited time...we'll want to get a little earlier start due to the potential crowds this weekend.

BillR

11-04-2007, 02:23 PM

I've received a few inquires from folks here in Flagstaff. PM me if you're interested in caravaning down EARLY (6AM) on Saturday, and we can set up a place to meet.

CaptainMorgan

11-04-2007, 02:36 PM

That's still night time Bill:) I'll see y'all at he trailhead at 8:30.

BillR

11-04-2007, 02:37 PM

That's still night time Bill:) I'll see y'all at he trailhead at 8:30.
Not going to breakfast w/us?:D

BillR

11-04-2007, 03:36 PM

What's everyone got left to do before Saturday's run?
My TJ's about ready. I need to remount my CB and maybe change the fluid in the Atlas.
Anyone got a long list to do this week? (Morgan??:D)

CaptainMorgan

11-04-2007, 07:03 PM

Since you asked.

In addition to the clutch and headgasket(might not need this, not sure yet), I might be installing a fresh dana20 too...Raul is picking it up for me tommorow and hopefully bringing it up...if I dont get to that it should have no effect on the trip, our dana20 is ok, just ratty, rusty and old. The restoration sure is coming along though...

Honestly if I get two of the three things on this done I will be happy. BA would be a sweet shekedown run for the new stuff. I can't wait to get a new clutch in there...the throwout bearing has been growling for 6 months...hopefully it isnt the trans bearings or anything...if so I got a t-150 I could buy from the same guy that has the dana20...so there is a possibility for a tranny swap too...but I am trying to keep things simple.

Oh and if I can get it I want to install new clutch linkage...but I think that will take a while to get delivered...if my current linkage set-up fails on BA I can fix it with nothing more than an adjustable wrench and some swearing.

BillR

11-04-2007, 07:21 PM

..if so I got a t-150 I could buy from the same guy that has the dana20...so there is a possibility for a tranny swap too...but I am trying to keep things simple.

Now I'm REALLY confused....you're thinking of getting rid of a T-18 for a T-150??:eek: Why?

CaptainMorgan

11-04-2007, 07:27 PM

Now I'm REALLY confused....you're thinking of getting rid of a T-18 for a T-150??:eek: Why?

Only if the t-18 needs a rebuild...I would never get rid of the t-18 for good...just if I needed another trans in the CJ while I rebuilt it...the t-150 is $100 if I need it. Don't worry, I haven't lost my mind.

BillR

11-04-2007, 08:17 PM

Only if the t-18 needs a rebuild...I would never get rid of the t-18 for good...just if I needed another trans in the CJ while I rebuilt it...the t-150 is $100 if I need it. Don't worry, I haven't lost my mind.
You had me worried for a second!:D
I had a T-18 behind a 360 in my old CJ-7, and it was an amazing rig. I wish I'd never sold that one!:(

CaptainMorgan

11-04-2007, 08:41 PM

That's funny, I am planning a 360 for this Jeep...within the next year I would like to see it between the framerails.

BillR

11-05-2007, 04:27 AM

That's funny, I am planning a 360 for this Jeep...within the next year I would like to see it between the framerails.

It was a good bit more money for the swap than I'd planned, but I LOVED the result. It was also pretty easy to break stuff with it. I twisted a front driveshaft like a candy cane with it climbing the Staircase. (using too much skinny pedal!) The driveshaft didn't break and I made it up fine. I unlocked the hubs and drove it home!:cool:
That was a FUN Jeep. It was a late '86 with the factory D44 rear and a D300 t-case.

BillR

11-05-2007, 03:36 PM

Wrenching's done!:p
I got the CB remounted. The Atlas fluid looks fine, so I'll wait on that.
Come on Saturday...it should be a great trip for all.

CaptainMorgan

11-05-2007, 07:43 PM

Wrenching's done!:p

Lucky:D

CaptainMorgan

11-07-2007, 05:31 PM

BillR

11-07-2007, 05:55 PM

:( My new t-case wont be here until Monday, was maybe gonna be here thursday....looks like I am out...I dont think I can make it without a t-case. I would just throw the old one in temporarily and go but I have to drop the tranny to get it in and out...since I am doing the clutch it is a perfect time. Just not for B.A. I'm bummed, maybe the TJ will be back...doubtful.

That sucks.:(
My wife MAY have to go to the Valley on Saturday. If so, I'll probably plan another run on the 17th (NEXT Saturday) to BA. I'll be going this Saturday also, as there are others that said they'd be there.
Let me know when you're running!

Mike 77 CJ5

11-07-2007, 06:05 PM

Do you guys mind if my wife ,daughter and I tag along with you all

BillR

11-07-2007, 06:14 PM

Do you guys mind if my wife ,daughter and I tag along with you all

Not at all!
You coming for breakfast too?;)

Mike 77 CJ5

11-07-2007, 06:23 PM

Sorry I'm lazy and don't want to look through tht posts.
What time and where for breakfast. I'm comming from Gilbert with a 2 year old so I'm not sure

Thanks

BillR

11-07-2007, 07:10 PM

7am at the Coffee Pot. It's right on the main drag in Sedona.

Mike 77 CJ5

11-07-2007, 07:17 PM

The wife said NO WAY is she getting up that early LOL. We'll meet you at the trail head

BillR

11-07-2007, 07:45 PM

The wife said NO WAY is she getting up that early LOL. We'll meet you at the trail head
Sounds good. We'll leave the trailhead around 8:30
See you then.

CaptainMorgan

11-07-2007, 08:08 PM

That sucks.:(
My wife MAY have to go to the Valley on Saturday. If so, I'll probably plan another run on the 17th (NEXT Saturday) to BA. I'll be going this Saturday also, as there are others that said they'd be there.
Let me know when you're running!

17th sounds good. I might set up a run if nobody has by the time I get one Jeep back on the road. At least by the 17th the TJ should be back home. I plan to have the tranny re-installed next tuesday-wednesday...starting to go mad for the lack of ability to wheel. I keep telling myself how nice it will all be when it is done and at least it isn't costing too much because I am doing it myself.

Miles2go1979

11-07-2007, 08:56 PM

I'm out... gonna enjoy the camping fun at payette

BillR

11-08-2007, 04:20 AM

I'm out... gonna enjoy the camping fun at payette
OK, we'll do it again soon. (maybe on the 17th!:D)

BillR

11-08-2007, 04:38 AM

17th sounds good. I might set up a run if nobody has by the time I get one Jeep back on the road. At least by the 17th the TJ should be back home. I plan to have the tranny re-installed next tuesday-wednesday...starting to go mad for the lack of ability to wheel. I keep telling myself how nice it will all be when it is done and at least it isn't costing too much because I am doing it myself.

If you want to set up a BA run for the 17th, I'll come down and run with you. We could probably get another good group.:cool:
I'm doing BA on the 24th also. (full-moon run!) I could do that trail every weekend. It's scenic, and it's CLOSE!
You can also have a great time on Broken Arrow without worrying too much about trashing your rig.
My kind of wheeling!

Hivemind

11-08-2007, 08:19 PM

Sorry, I have too much goin on to make this after all

BillR

11-09-2007, 04:35 AM

We've had some folks drop out, so we MAY get by with everyone going in one group. We'll decide at the trailhead.
Again, we'll meet at the trailhead shortly after 8am, and plan on hitting the trail at 8:30. For those wanting to meet for breakfast, Coffee Pot at 7AM!:cool:

Mike 77 CJ5

11-09-2007, 11:04 PM

Sorry Guys,
Last minute work came up. Being a General Contractor right now means I need everything I can get.:mad:

BillR

11-10-2007, 04:43 PM

What an awesome run!
We had a small group; it ended up being just two Jeeps. This was PERFECT because Clay was on his FIRST trail ride and I got to spend a little extra time showing him the trail and the good photo spots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091606.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091599.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091609.jpg

We had a great time playing on some of the usual stuff...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091617.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091650.jpg

and a quick poser shot of mine...:D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091630.jpg

Clay did a great job driving and really showed what a stock TJ is capable of. He had no problems at all.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v87/azxjer/PB091623.jpg

All in all, a GREAT day on the trails. The Pink drivers were even in a good mood!:eek::D