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offroadaz
10-10-2007, 02:48 PM
My lockrights been in for about 3 weeks now, initially it was great, not too loud and operated smoothly. Lately it has been clunking very loud when turning and occasionally it will lock up and release while driving straight

Also when I park the jeep it sometimes squats down to the right from the lockright being engaged

Today when I was driving to lunch I put the jeep in gear and the lockright was clicking alot while I was sitting in reverse

While pulling out of the parking lot the jeep acted like it was in neutral, the lockright could be heard clicking and then it finally lurched me forward again to drive. This happened about 3 times within 1/4 of a mile

So.... Im guessing this isnt normal, Ill pull off the cover again tonight but really dont know what we could have done wrong with the install, it seemed pretty straight forward

ideas?
lancetkenyon
10-10-2007, 03:00 PM
Could be the internal springs, or an improperly installed locker. Also, I assume you have an auto?
offroadaz
10-10-2007, 03:05 PM
Could be the internal springs, or an improperly installed locker. Also, I assume you have an auto?

yep, its an auto

Im going to pull it tonight and check the springs in it. Hopefully its something simple
SHNIPE
10-10-2007, 03:23 PM
lance is more than likely right. if there is something wrong, its probably the springs. good thing is that if you do chunk them you can get the replacements easy and readily.
AZG23
10-10-2007, 08:17 PM
air pressures all the same..?? 1st check...second is pull the cover :D
ademster
10-10-2007, 08:25 PM
the spring/pin kit is 10 bucks plus tax at 4 wheelers
Billy 4 hp
10-10-2007, 08:41 PM
the spring/pin kit is 10 bucks plus tax at 4 wheelers

The last Lockright and No Slip Locker I bought from 4 Wheelers (January and March of this year) had a spare set of springs right in the box...

Did your go / no go gauge that came with the unit (my last two have at least) fit tightly or loose? Since you didn't state what kind of rear axle you installed it in (I am assuming a Dana 35, etc), but did you have to reuse the thrust washer that were on your original side gears?

While you have the cover off, if you find a broken or missing spring, pull the whole unit out and ensure that both the drive coupler and spacer teeth are not rounded off... If the spring went away a while ago and the vehicle is still driven it will wear out the teeth rather quickly as it would be engaging and disengaging when it should just be engaged and not ratcheting (which is simply the teeth skipping off each other if there isn't enough spring tension to keep the unit engaged due to possible said spring malfunction)... If the Lock Right has enough wear. simply installing new springs won't be enough to bring it back to life... My experience in the past was that the original company was fairly easy to deal with warranty wise but I don't know how they are since Richmond Gear bought the line...

For the record, I am a big proponent of the Lock Right lockers as mine have survived with 16/35 Swamper Boggers in a Ford 9 inch / Dana 44 combo for over 12 years without failure...

Good luck...
cdhowell
10-11-2007, 07:44 AM
Is it a Lock Right by Powertrax or the Quick lock by Genuine gear?
Quick lock has been having a lot of trouble and I recenly went through the same thing you describe.
lancetkenyon
10-11-2007, 10:50 AM
Is it a Lock Right by Powertrax or the Quick lock by Genuine gear?
Quick lock has been having a lot of trouble and I recenly went through the same thing you describe.

Nice avatar, looks like the "filter" at Pyeatt.
cdhowell
10-11-2007, 12:14 PM
It is, went up a couple months ago.
offroadaz
10-11-2007, 02:23 PM
Could be the internal springs, or an improperly installed locker. Also, I assume you have an auto?

Looks like you were right with the springs. Pulled it out today and found pieces of them in the bottom of the diff. Im pulling the carrier this afternoon and checking the rest

Heres a quick vid of what its doing
http://www.higherground4x4.com/PA110169.MOV

You can see its not even engaging anymore, just free spinning

I assume 4wheelers has the spring/pin kit in stock?
offroadaz
10-12-2007, 10:13 AM
That didn't take long. Total failure of the lockright

http://www.higherground4x4.com/carnage/lr1.jpg

http://www.higherground4x4.com/carnage/lr2.jpg

Bad thing is I threw away my box with the warranty in it :(
Jeepnut
10-12-2007, 09:26 PM
The Lock-Right works well in certain applications, and the D35 is not one of them. I learned this lesson when I used to run a D35 rear. The nature/design of the Lock-Right is such that it places a lot of stress on the sides of the carrier, and certain small carriers spread apart and this leads to failure. Some carriers (D44 for example) are strong enough to handle the side load, and the LR lasts for a long time. I personally know of one in a D44 Scout rear that has been driven hard for over 10 yrs, and is still working great. I have the Detroit version in the front of mine and it works like a champ (D44 with locking hubs).

Try to get a refund and apply it towards a Super 35 kit (at a minimum) OR trade it in for a D44 or Ford 8.8 Lock-Right then find an axle to fit it. Good luck!
lancetkenyon
10-13-2007, 07:35 AM
If you got it at 4 Wheelers or Absolute Offroad, try taking it down to them. They might still be able to help you out with it.
fatbob309
10-13-2007, 10:21 AM
The Lock-Right works well in certain applications, and the D35 is not one of them.


Good thing he has a 44
lancetkenyon
10-13-2007, 12:04 PM
Buy a spool and be done with it. Replaces the whole carrier in a D44(or a mini spool in a D35) and is WAY stronger than a stock carrier and Lock-rite. Cheaper too, around $150-$170. No parts to wear out, and eliminates any quirky engage/disengage problems. Traction is NUTS, too.
Steve
10-13-2007, 02:38 PM
Why a minispool for a D35 or spool for the D44? Why wouldn't the spool for the D35 be appropriate also? What is the actual difference between the full spool and the mini? Forgive my ignorance but I am trying to learn. Thanks. :D:D
Billy 4 hp
10-13-2007, 03:29 PM
Why a minispool for a D35 or spool for the D44? Why wouldn't the spool for the D35 be appropriate also? What is the actual difference between the full spool and the mini? Forgive my ignorance but I am trying to learn. Thanks. :D:D

Full spool is an actual new assembly that the ring gear bolts to and requires resetting up of the gears...

A mini spool just replaces the spider and side gears and is held in place by the cross pin in the original open carrier....

The reason for choosing a mini spool vs full spool is dependent on what is available for that series of axle, i.e. I don't think a full spool is available for a Dana 35 due to the inherent lack of strength so they just don't bother producing a full spool as not many would likely sell since the axles and housing itself are considered weak by the masses.

In comparison, a mini spool is relatively easy to produce since the basic design in raw cast form fits many different open cases and just requires certain machining procedures to fit in XXX open carrier...

And as Lance put's it, traction is crazy, as the spool or mini spool simply locks the axles together, there is no differential action, no parts to wear out or break other than axle shafts.... :D
lancetkenyon
10-13-2007, 03:49 PM
Billy got it right, there is no full spool made for the D35. And why get a mini spool for a D44, which uses the weaker stock carrier when a full spool is only another $30, and you eliminate the weak carrier.
Steve
10-14-2007, 06:34 AM
:D Thank You for the excellent explanation. :D


Full spool is an actual new assembly that the ring gear bolts to and requires resetting up of the gears...

A mini spool just replaces the spider and side gears and is held in place by the cross pin in the original open carrier....

The reason for choosing a mini spool vs full spool is dependent on what is available for that series of axle, i.e. I don't think a full spool is available for a Dana 35 due to the inherent lack of strength so they just don't bother producing a full spool as not many would likely sell since the axles and housing itself are considered weak by the masses.

In comparison, a mini spool is relatively easy to produce since the basic design in raw cast form fits many different open cases and just requires certain machining procedures to fit in XXX open carrier...

And as Lance put's it, traction is crazy, as the spool or mini spool simply locks the axles together, there is no differential action, no parts to wear out or break other than axle shafts.... :D