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1406 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:44am
Subject: Re: a proposed 'run'
Definitely a good idea, Nick. It's a good way for those unfamiliar with
their Jeeps to gain some confidence, and of course everyone can check out
what makes that 'other Jeep' tick. I'd recommend someplace here in the
Valley, but haven't been too keen on laying on the concrete since it
started getting hot again. Anybody remember that Saturn commercial where
they had ~1000 owners come in for a day of lessons about their Saturns?
Does anyone have connections through their work or someplace with a large
parking lot? Even though pavement would be warm, taking the Jeeps up
into the hills kind of limits the tools available and the urge for some
people to learn. Wouldn't be a bad way to get some dealership
recognition, either.
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:03:55 -0700 "nnote" <nnote@n...> writes:
>Me and Len were talking last night, discussing how we spend the next
>day after runs maintaining our Jeeps.
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1407 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:35am
Subject: Re: Hello
Jeff,
Welcome to the group! I have no idea what our headcount is anymore, but
you're welcome to join up with any of the runs we do monthly. As the
summer rolls along, it seems we've got one or even two trips each
weekend; for a little while anyway. Keep an eye on the messages through
here, and feel free to join a run or ask questions about Arizona, Jeeps,
or mundane things. We've probably got someone who knows...
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:49:54 -0700 "Jeff Walter" <tpdc105@t...>
writes:
>Hello, I'm new to this group and would like to introduce myself.....
>I'm Jeff Walter and I have a 1995 Wrangler Jeep and I'm looking into
>doing some off roading and looking for a group that doesn't mind
>helping the slower person along. I have read many of you postings and
>it looks like all of you have a great time getting together andshowing
>off you Jeeps. As time permits I would like to attend some of the
>events that might be planned.
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1408 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 2:50am
Subject: Re: Hello
In a message dated 6/24/99 3:33:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
yucca-man@j... writes:
> Subj: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
> Date: 6/24/99 3:33:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From: yucca-man@j... (James A Langdon)
> Reply-to: az_vjc@egroups.com
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> CC: az_vjc@egroups.com
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Jim,
You are sending your e-mail to az_vjc@egroups.com and AZ_vjc@m....
Both are actually the same. Please send to only one, the eroups address. I
keep getting rejection messages from the list server because of duplicate
messages.
Thanks!
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1409 From: David Ross <davydross@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 7:40am
Subject: Re: Hello
I used to "live" on the river at about 363 and Indian
School Road. My only suggestion is watch for the
dropoffs (flipped a cherokee on one) and the sand may
look hard on the top but it will get ya stuck if you
don't watch what your doing (got my cj stuck to the
frame) ....Besides that it's a blast if I had my jeep
running I'd be there along with ya, but maybe next
time.
--- Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
wrote:
> Now someone from the list here said they ran this
> river bottom.... Speak up and inform us of the
> trail.....PLEASE???
>
> Hints tips and cautions would be nice too.... Anyone
> else want to tag along? (the wife said "Dang will I
> ever get a chance to do laundry?") Sounds like a
> Wheeling good time to me, Something 3.0 and under
> would be a nice trail after last weekends run.
>
>
> Troy
> 69 Wagoneer
> Shannon
> 88 XJ Cherokee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Walter
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:47 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
>
> Troy the run on saturday sounds like it will be
> great, let me know of the location where everyone is
> going to meet and I will try my best to be there..
>
> Thanks !!!!
>
> And thanks to all the members who made me feel
> welcome !!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:37 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
>
> Heck Jeff,
> you just show up at any get togeather, and we will
> show you how to do the wheeling. in fact Dave and I
> are thinking of an easy run SAT up the Hassayampa
> river bottom... nothing firm mind you yet, but it is
> an idea.
>
> Troy
> 69 Wagoneer
> Shannon
> 88 XJ Cherokee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Walter
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:49 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hello
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to this group and would like to
> introduce myself..... I'm Jeff Walter and I have a
> 1995 Wrangler
> Jeep and I'm looking into doing some off roading
> and looking for a group that doesn't mind helping
> the slower person along. I have read many of you
> postings and it looks like all of you have a great
> time getting together and showing off you Jeeps. As
> time permits I would like to attend some of the
> events that might be planned.
>
>
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1410 From: <BA914@A...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 11:19am
Subject: maintainance run
there is a checker auto parts at 83 ave and indian school rd. it was conver=
ted from a bank. the covered drive thru is still there with plenty of parkin=
g. this will provide shade, not sure about electricity. there is also plenty=
of fast food nearby for lunch. i took the liberty of contacting the manager=
. iam awaiting his call now. also nick i have a haynes manual, not sure of y=
ears covered. it is the one for 91YJ.
steve
Stray Cat
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1411 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 7:59am
Subject: Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1412 From: Joseph Clarke <azzonie@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 8:31pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
You S15 should have torsion bar suspension. You can lift the front end up to about an inch by tightening the bolts on the end of the torsion bars. If you want to go any higher you almost have to buy a lift kit because they require longer control arms to keep the geometry's correct and you have to run special boot's on the CV joints that will run at a greater angle without tearing. Also the torsion bars are spaced down front and rear. Even with a kit it's a *****. Superlift makes a kit for it along with 3 or 4 other companies.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Orr
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1413 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:16pm
Subject: Re: This weekend in Tucson
Leah, Is Tanque Verde the road we took last time to Reddington?...where the gas station was for airing up? If so, where's the Abco in relation. I'm thinking of making this one.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] This weekend in Tucson
Hi all!
If anybody is interested we, the Tucson/Southern
Arizona Chapter are having a run to the Tanks
Saturday. We are planning on meeting at 12 noon
at the Abco on Tanque Verde and Catalina Hwy.
We will be spending the night and coming back to
town Sunday sometime. Scott or Jeffery please feel
free to correct the time or add anything....
Three Tanks is three HUGE natural pools fed by
underground springs and rain run-off. The pools
are very deep and can be jumped into from 12 to 20
foot cliffs. There is even good low water,sandy
spots for small children to play in.
Good area to camp and the nightime temps
should be pretty nice (upper 60s low 70s)
This is in the Redington area, far Easide of
Tucson.
Anyone interested, show up! or e-mail me before
5PM Friday.
Leah "SHE J" 94YJ
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1414 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:15pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
I'm as familiar with s-series pickups as I am Jeeps, but you can gain a little lift by cranking in the torsion bars, of course this also stiffens the ride alot and it's only worth maybe an inch. The springover in the rear will probably net you over 4-5" of lift which is quite a bit out of the 2" range.
If your on a budget do a 2" body lift. Otherwise a good suspension lift for an independent front/ leafsprung rear will run well over $1000 dollars for the parts.
Good luck, maybe you can convince him he should sell the GMC in favor of a Jeep ;)
Scott Kruize
Phoenix, AZ
OSMTJ@psn.net
Bone stock TJ ;)
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From: Keith Orr
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1415 From: <CoyotEddie@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 5:08pm
Subject: Our Jeeps Album
Dan,
How do I get this picture on to the our jeeps album at PhotoPoint?
Coyote
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1416 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:19pm
Subject: Re: Hello
Now that I've got all the skid plates I'd be tempted to take one of the
other 2 routes down :) If I can figure out a way to get other members of my
family to watch my parents dog that I'm dogsitting, maybe I will come down.
Otherwise I'll run the river to Wickenburg with some of the locals.
Scott Kruize
Phoenix, AZ
OSMTJ@p...
Bone stock TJ ;)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey <jeffrey@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 11:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
> >Are we running the same trail this time or is it something new? I'm still
> >debating whether or not to go so please tell me there is something new
> there >to challenge me :)
> >
>
> Scott. You will have run the first part of this trail already since you
did
> the Redington Loop run. The part of the trail you have not been on will
not
> be that difficult. Of course if you want a challenge there is the right
> side of Three Feathers on the way down (same place where the chute was)
> <grin> It should be fun though.
>
> Later,
> Jeffrey
> "...it's all fun and games until
> someone loses an eye......"
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1417 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:30pm
Subject: Tucson Run
Ok, I'm very jealous of the Tucson run this weekend. It sounds like a
beautiful location! Is this something anyone would be interested in doing
again in the future. I am moving to a new apt. this weekend so I'm totally
out of the picture for any runs this as well as next weekend.
I am however, starting to get really antsy having gotten off-road in quite a
while.
Melinda
97TJ
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1418 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 11:09pm
Subject: Re: maintainance run Attn Steve (Stray Cat)
I appreciate your initiative Steve, but I've already started talking with
the Checker folks also. I work for Checker at the corporate office and can
address it at a much higher level than the store manager. Besides that, the
manager has some say in the decision but will not be the one actually giving
permission to do it. I was actually thinking more of the store at 59th Ave
and Camelback due to the fact that it is the largest store in the state and
has one of the largest parking lots. I'm expecting a turnout of anywhere
from 25 to 100 Jeeps, plus all the people that are always attracted to
anything that resembles a car show.
Although if the manager does call you back with a "Yes", good for you! ( If
you get an answer first I'll have to bang some heads together at work!!! )
-Len Sullivan 1978 J-10
-FSJ List Administrator
-Phoenix, AZ ICQ# 38601959
-----Original Message-----
From: BA914@A... <BA914@A...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:10 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] maintainance run
>there is a checker auto parts at 83 ave and indian school rd. it was
converted from a bank. the covered drive thru is still there with plenty of
parking. this will provide shade, not sure about electricity. there is also
plenty of fast food nearby for lunch. i took the liberty of contacting the
manager. iam awaiting his call now. also nick i have a haynes manual, not
sure of years covered. it is the one for 91YJ.
>
>steve
>Stray Cat
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1419 From: David Ross <davyd@i...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:36pm
Subject: Re: Hello
I sent a message from work but it'll take a while to clear...wrong e-mail address...but I have done the I-10 to W-berg trip a few times in my youth...a few hints...watch the sand, it may look hard but it never is. The east side of the river near Indian School is owned by an old man that likes to shoot into the air if he sees you (scarry as all hell) so don't drive on the hills to the east, try to stay on the main river, when it splits it get tight and has lots of trees, and the usual take tow chains, shovels, and lots of fun :). Hope to make it!
David Ross
ICQ# 6079187
Troy & Shannon Franks wrote:
Now someone from the list here said they ran this river bottom.... Speak up and inform us of the trail.....PLEASE??? Hints tips and cautions would be nice too.... Anyone else want to tag along? (the wife said "Dang will I ever get a chance to do laundry?") Sounds like a Wheeling good time to me, Something 3.0 and under would be a nice trail after last weekends run. Troy69 WagoneerShannon88 XJ Cherokee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Walter
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
Troy the run on saturday sounds like it will be great, let me know of the location where everyone is going to meet and I will try my best to be there.. Thanks !!!! And thanks to all the members who made me feel welcome !!!-----Original Message-----
From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@inficad.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:37 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
Heck Jeff,you just show up at any get togeather, and we will show you how to do the wheeling. in fact Dave and I are thinking of an easy run SAT up the Hassayampa river bottom... nothing firm mind you yet, but it is an idea. Troy69 WagoneerShannon88 XJ Cherokee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Walter
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Hello
Hello, I'm new to this group and would like to introduce myself..... I'm Jeff Walter and I have a 1995 Wrangler
Jeep and I'm looking into doing some off roading and looking for a group that doesn't mind helping the slower person along. I have read many of you postings and it looks like all of you have a great time getting together and showing off you Jeeps. As time permits I would like to attend some of the events that might be planned.
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1420 From: <CoyotEddie@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 4:54pm
Subject: Photo Point Oops Album
Dan,
How about starting a album for pictures of off road harry situations. I will
contribute the first picture. This happened when the topo map double dotted
trail turned into a single dotted line. I guess I fell between the cracks. No
damage sustained, just a thrilling memory.
Ed
79 CJ5
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1421 From: <BA914@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 6:35am
Subject: Re: Fixin (len)
Hey nick
there is a checker auto parts store at 83 Ave and Indian school rd. it used
to be a bank. Best part is that the covered drive thru is still there in the
rear of building. there is also plenty, plenty, plenty of open parking. Iam
waiting for a call from the manager right now. I will let you know.
Steve
stray cat
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1422 From: William Aylesworth <billyayle@u...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:01pm
Subject: Hello to all
Hello,
My name is Bill Aylesworth. I have recently joined the distribution
list for your group and am happy to read about all of your four wheeling
adventures. I am looking forward to joining any of you on an outing in
the
near future. I have a 1955 M38A1 Willys. I have been wheeling on most
of
the local trails for some time now. Fun as they are, some of the
trails/trips that I read about sound like a blast. I can’t wait until I
am
up and running and can join you all on a trip.
Bill
55M38A1
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1423 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
Lifts to the S-15 (or Chevy S-10) are available, but are expensive, in part, I think, because GM uses a torsion bar for the front suspension. I had a Blazer, and looked into lifting it, and found one at Fly-N-High, but passed on it because of the cost. As I recall it was over $2k. You could give them a call and see what's available. If you do it yourself, it should certainly be cheaper.
Doug
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From: Keith Orr <korr@zekes.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1424 From: <HotVTwin@a...>
Date: Fri Jun 25, 1999 1:27am
Subject: (no subject)
Please take me off your forwarding list......Thank you
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1425 From: Robert D McFarlane Jr. <rdmcfarlane@j...>
Date: Fri Jun 25, 1999 5:05am
Subject: Re: Hello to all
Welcome Bill! Hope to meet you on the trail soon. I don't think I've
seen any other Willys on the trips I've been on, so I'm looking forward
to checking out your rig. Take care.
Dan McFarlane
Peoria
97TJ
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:01:42 -0700 William Aylesworth
<billyayle@u...> writes:
>Hello,
> My name is Bill Aylesworth. I have recently joined the
>distribution
>
>list for your group and am happy to read about all of your four
>wheeling
>
>adventures. I am looking forward to joining any of you on an outing in
>the
>near future. I have a 1955 M38A1 Willys. I have been wheeling on most
>of
>the local trails for some time now. Fun as they are, some of the
>trails/trips that I read about sound like a blast. I can’t wait until
>I
>
>am
>up and running and can join you all on a trip.
>
>Bill
>55M38A1
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1406 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:44am
Subject: Re: a proposed 'run'
Definitely a good idea, Nick. It's a good way for those unfamiliar with
their Jeeps to gain some confidence, and of course everyone can check out
what makes that 'other Jeep' tick. I'd recommend someplace here in the
Valley, but haven't been too keen on laying on the concrete since it
started getting hot again. Anybody remember that Saturn commercial where
they had ~1000 owners come in for a day of lessons about their Saturns?
Does anyone have connections through their work or someplace with a large
parking lot? Even though pavement would be warm, taking the Jeeps up
into the hills kind of limits the tools available and the urge for some
people to learn. Wouldn't be a bad way to get some dealership
recognition, either.
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:03:55 -0700 "nnote" <nnote@n...> writes:
>Me and Len were talking last night, discussing how we spend the next
>day after runs maintaining our Jeeps.
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1407 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:35am
Subject: Re: Hello
Jeff,
Welcome to the group! I have no idea what our headcount is anymore, but
you're welcome to join up with any of the runs we do monthly. As the
summer rolls along, it seems we've got one or even two trips each
weekend; for a little while anyway. Keep an eye on the messages through
here, and feel free to join a run or ask questions about Arizona, Jeeps,
or mundane things. We've probably got someone who knows...
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On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:49:54 -0700 "Jeff Walter" <tpdc105@t...>
writes:
>Hello, I'm new to this group and would like to introduce myself.....
>I'm Jeff Walter and I have a 1995 Wrangler Jeep and I'm looking into
>doing some off roading and looking for a group that doesn't mind
>helping the slower person along. I have read many of you postings and
>it looks like all of you have a great time getting together andshowing
>off you Jeeps. As time permits I would like to attend some of the
>events that might be planned.
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1408 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 2:50am
Subject: Re: Hello
In a message dated 6/24/99 3:33:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
yucca-man@j... writes:
> Subj: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
> Date: 6/24/99 3:33:08 AM US Mountain Standard Time
> From: yucca-man@j... (James A Langdon)
> Reply-to: az_vjc@egroups.com
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> CC: az_vjc@egroups.com
>
Jim,
You are sending your e-mail to az_vjc@egroups.com and AZ_vjc@m....
Both are actually the same. Please send to only one, the eroups address. I
keep getting rejection messages from the list server because of duplicate
messages.
Thanks!
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1409 From: David Ross <davydross@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 7:40am
Subject: Re: Hello
I used to "live" on the river at about 363 and Indian
School Road. My only suggestion is watch for the
dropoffs (flipped a cherokee on one) and the sand may
look hard on the top but it will get ya stuck if you
don't watch what your doing (got my cj stuck to the
frame) ....Besides that it's a blast if I had my jeep
running I'd be there along with ya, but maybe next
time.
--- Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
wrote:
> Now someone from the list here said they ran this
> river bottom.... Speak up and inform us of the
> trail.....PLEASE???
>
> Hints tips and cautions would be nice too.... Anyone
> else want to tag along? (the wife said "Dang will I
> ever get a chance to do laundry?") Sounds like a
> Wheeling good time to me, Something 3.0 and under
> would be a nice trail after last weekends run.
>
>
> Troy
> 69 Wagoneer
> Shannon
> 88 XJ Cherokee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Walter
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:47 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
>
> Troy the run on saturday sounds like it will be
> great, let me know of the location where everyone is
> going to meet and I will try my best to be there..
>
> Thanks !!!!
>
> And thanks to all the members who made me feel
> welcome !!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:37 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
>
> Heck Jeff,
> you just show up at any get togeather, and we will
> show you how to do the wheeling. in fact Dave and I
> are thinking of an easy run SAT up the Hassayampa
> river bottom... nothing firm mind you yet, but it is
> an idea.
>
> Troy
> 69 Wagoneer
> Shannon
> 88 XJ Cherokee
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Walter
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:49 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hello
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to this group and would like to
> introduce myself..... I'm Jeff Walter and I have a
> 1995 Wrangler
> Jeep and I'm looking into doing some off roading
> and looking for a group that doesn't mind helping
> the slower person along. I have read many of you
> postings and it looks like all of you have a great
> time getting together and showing off you Jeeps. As
> time permits I would like to attend some of the
> events that might be planned.
>
>
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1410 From: <BA914@A...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 11:19am
Subject: maintainance run
there is a checker auto parts at 83 ave and indian school rd. it was conver=
ted from a bank. the covered drive thru is still there with plenty of parkin=
g. this will provide shade, not sure about electricity. there is also plenty=
of fast food nearby for lunch. i took the liberty of contacting the manager=
. iam awaiting his call now. also nick i have a haynes manual, not sure of y=
ears covered. it is the one for 91YJ.
steve
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1411 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 7:59am
Subject: Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1412 From: Joseph Clarke <azzonie@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 8:31pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
You S15 should have torsion bar suspension. You can lift the front end up to about an inch by tightening the bolts on the end of the torsion bars. If you want to go any higher you almost have to buy a lift kit because they require longer control arms to keep the geometry's correct and you have to run special boot's on the CV joints that will run at a greater angle without tearing. Also the torsion bars are spaced down front and rear. Even with a kit it's a *****. Superlift makes a kit for it along with 3 or 4 other companies.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Orr
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1413 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:16pm
Subject: Re: This weekend in Tucson
Leah, Is Tanque Verde the road we took last time to Reddington?...where the gas station was for airing up? If so, where's the Abco in relation. I'm thinking of making this one.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 3:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] This weekend in Tucson
Hi all!
If anybody is interested we, the Tucson/Southern
Arizona Chapter are having a run to the Tanks
Saturday. We are planning on meeting at 12 noon
at the Abco on Tanque Verde and Catalina Hwy.
We will be spending the night and coming back to
town Sunday sometime. Scott or Jeffery please feel
free to correct the time or add anything....
Three Tanks is three HUGE natural pools fed by
underground springs and rain run-off. The pools
are very deep and can be jumped into from 12 to 20
foot cliffs. There is even good low water,sandy
spots for small children to play in.
Good area to camp and the nightime temps
should be pretty nice (upper 60s low 70s)
This is in the Redington area, far Easide of
Tucson.
Anyone interested, show up! or e-mail me before
5PM Friday.
Leah "SHE J" 94YJ
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1414 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:15pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
I'm as familiar with s-series pickups as I am Jeeps, but you can gain a little lift by cranking in the torsion bars, of course this also stiffens the ride alot and it's only worth maybe an inch. The springover in the rear will probably net you over 4-5" of lift which is quite a bit out of the 2" range.
If your on a budget do a 2" body lift. Otherwise a good suspension lift for an independent front/ leafsprung rear will run well over $1000 dollars for the parts.
Good luck, maybe you can convince him he should sell the GMC in favor of a Jeep ;)
Scott Kruize
Phoenix, AZ
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----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Orr
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 7:59 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1415 From: <CoyotEddie@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 5:08pm
Subject: Our Jeeps Album
Dan,
How do I get this picture on to the our jeeps album at PhotoPoint?
Coyote
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1416 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:19pm
Subject: Re: Hello
Now that I've got all the skid plates I'd be tempted to take one of the
other 2 routes down :) If I can figure out a way to get other members of my
family to watch my parents dog that I'm dogsitting, maybe I will come down.
Otherwise I'll run the river to Wickenburg with some of the locals.
Scott Kruize
Phoenix, AZ
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey <jeffrey@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 11:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
>
> >Are we running the same trail this time or is it something new? I'm still
> >debating whether or not to go so please tell me there is something new
> there >to challenge me :)
> >
>
> Scott. You will have run the first part of this trail already since you
did
> the Redington Loop run. The part of the trail you have not been on will
not
> be that difficult. Of course if you want a challenge there is the right
> side of Three Feathers on the way down (same place where the chute was)
> <grin> It should be fun though.
>
> Later,
> Jeffrey
> "...it's all fun and games until
> someone loses an eye......"
> Jeepin' in AZ - http://www.azstarnet.com/~jeffrey
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1417 From: <MZabritski@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 0:30pm
Subject: Tucson Run
Ok, I'm very jealous of the Tucson run this weekend. It sounds like a
beautiful location! Is this something anyone would be interested in doing
again in the future. I am moving to a new apt. this weekend so I'm totally
out of the picture for any runs this as well as next weekend.
I am however, starting to get really antsy having gotten off-road in quite a
while.
Melinda
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1418 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 11:09pm
Subject: Re: maintainance run Attn Steve (Stray Cat)
I appreciate your initiative Steve, but I've already started talking with
the Checker folks also. I work for Checker at the corporate office and can
address it at a much higher level than the store manager. Besides that, the
manager has some say in the decision but will not be the one actually giving
permission to do it. I was actually thinking more of the store at 59th Ave
and Camelback due to the fact that it is the largest store in the state and
has one of the largest parking lots. I'm expecting a turnout of anywhere
from 25 to 100 Jeeps, plus all the people that are always attracted to
anything that resembles a car show.
Although if the manager does call you back with a "Yes", good for you! ( If
you get an answer first I'll have to bang some heads together at work!!! )
-Len Sullivan 1978 J-10
-FSJ List Administrator
-Phoenix, AZ ICQ# 38601959
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From: BA914@A... <BA914@A...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:10 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] maintainance run
>there is a checker auto parts at 83 ave and indian school rd. it was
converted from a bank. the covered drive thru is still there with plenty of
parking. this will provide shade, not sure about electricity. there is also
plenty of fast food nearby for lunch. i took the liberty of contacting the
manager. iam awaiting his call now. also nick i have a haynes manual, not
sure of years covered. it is the one for 91YJ.
>
>steve
>Stray Cat
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1419 From: David Ross <davyd@i...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 9:36pm
Subject: Re: Hello
I sent a message from work but it'll take a while to clear...wrong e-mail address...but I have done the I-10 to W-berg trip a few times in my youth...a few hints...watch the sand, it may look hard but it never is. The east side of the river near Indian School is owned by an old man that likes to shoot into the air if he sees you (scarry as all hell) so don't drive on the hills to the east, try to stay on the main river, when it splits it get tight and has lots of trees, and the usual take tow chains, shovels, and lots of fun :). Hope to make it!
David Ross
ICQ# 6079187
Troy & Shannon Franks wrote:
Now someone from the list here said they ran this river bottom.... Speak up and inform us of the trail.....PLEASE??? Hints tips and cautions would be nice too.... Anyone else want to tag along? (the wife said "Dang will I ever get a chance to do laundry?") Sounds like a Wheeling good time to me, Something 3.0 and under would be a nice trail after last weekends run. Troy69 WagoneerShannon88 XJ Cherokee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Walter
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
Troy the run on saturday sounds like it will be great, let me know of the location where everyone is going to meet and I will try my best to be there.. Thanks !!!! And thanks to all the members who made me feel welcome !!!-----Original Message-----
From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@inficad.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:37 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hello
Heck Jeff,you just show up at any get togeather, and we will show you how to do the wheeling. in fact Dave and I are thinking of an easy run SAT up the Hassayampa river bottom... nothing firm mind you yet, but it is an idea. Troy69 WagoneerShannon88 XJ Cherokee
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Walter
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Hello
Hello, I'm new to this group and would like to introduce myself..... I'm Jeff Walter and I have a 1995 Wrangler
Jeep and I'm looking into doing some off roading and looking for a group that doesn't mind helping the slower person along. I have read many of you postings and it looks like all of you have a great time getting together and showing off you Jeeps. As time permits I would like to attend some of the events that might be planned.
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1420 From: <CoyotEddie@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 4:54pm
Subject: Photo Point Oops Album
Dan,
How about starting a album for pictures of off road harry situations. I will
contribute the first picture. This happened when the topo map double dotted
trail turned into a single dotted line. I guess I fell between the cracks. No
damage sustained, just a thrilling memory.
Ed
79 CJ5
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1421 From: <BA914@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 6:35am
Subject: Re: Fixin (len)
Hey nick
there is a checker auto parts store at 83 Ave and Indian school rd. it used
to be a bank. Best part is that the covered drive thru is still there in the
rear of building. there is also plenty, plenty, plenty of open parking. Iam
waiting for a call from the manager right now. I will let you know.
Steve
stray cat
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1422 From: William Aylesworth <billyayle@u...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:01pm
Subject: Hello to all
Hello,
My name is Bill Aylesworth. I have recently joined the distribution
list for your group and am happy to read about all of your four wheeling
adventures. I am looking forward to joining any of you on an outing in
the
near future. I have a 1955 M38A1 Willys. I have been wheeling on most
of
the local trails for some time now. Fun as they are, some of the
trails/trips that I read about sound like a blast. I can’t wait until I
am
up and running and can join you all on a trip.
Bill
55M38A1
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1423 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 24, 1999 10:05pm
Subject: Re: Lift kit
Lifts to the S-15 (or Chevy S-10) are available, but are expensive, in part, I think, because GM uses a torsion bar for the front suspension. I had a Blazer, and looked into lifting it, and found one at Fly-N-High, but passed on it because of the cost. As I recall it was over $2k. You could give them a call and see what's available. If you do it yourself, it should certainly be cheaper.
Doug
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From: Keith Orr <korr@zekes.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 24, 1999 8:20 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Lift kit
Hello everyone,
My son has a friend that owns a GMC S-15, and he want to lift the thing 2 inches. I can do a spring over axle lift in the rear. This I have done on many other vechiles, Jeeps, Suzuki, Chevy(full size), etc. But on the front of the S-15 there is a whole different set up that I have never worked with before. I am not sure what all it involves. Is there a large expense if one does this procedures themselves? What kind of time and material does one need? I know that this is a jeep page, but the young man is a growing four-wheeler, and he needs someone to look up to like us (XJ Jeepers), Ha Ha!! If anyone could help me help him I would appreciate it very much. I have tried the web, fourwheel magazine, etc. with no luck. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Keith (Casper)
87 XJ
Safford, AZ
AZ_VJC member
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1424 From: <HotVTwin@a...>
Date: Fri Jun 25, 1999 1:27am
Subject: (no subject)
Please take me off your forwarding list......Thank you
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1425 From: Robert D McFarlane Jr. <rdmcfarlane@j...>
Date: Fri Jun 25, 1999 5:05am
Subject: Re: Hello to all
Welcome Bill! Hope to meet you on the trail soon. I don't think I've
seen any other Willys on the trips I've been on, so I'm looking forward
to checking out your rig. Take care.
Dan McFarlane
Peoria
97TJ
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:01:42 -0700 William Aylesworth
<billyayle@u...> writes:
>Hello,
> My name is Bill Aylesworth. I have recently joined the
>distribution
>
>list for your group and am happy to read about all of your four
>wheeling
>
>adventures. I am looking forward to joining any of you on an outing in
>the
>near future. I have a 1955 M38A1 Willys. I have been wheeling on most
>of
>the local trails for some time now. Fun as they are, some of the
>trails/trips that I read about sound like a blast. I can’t wait until
>I
>
>am
>up and running and can join you all on a trip.
>
>Bill
>55M38A1
>
>
>
>
>
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