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56552 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:27pm
Subject: Re: Re: Key from XJ, works on YJ/CJ


My sister-inlaw has a '97 ZJ, I have a '96 ZJ, we were out
camping a long way from anywhere when her alarm system locked her
keys in the Jeep. I tried my key in the door and it opened it
without any problem. Would not work in the ignition tho'.

My $0.02

Ralph


ccgaiser wrote:
> There are only so many codes for these locks. That is very possible,
> but very lucky to find the same code on two different Jeeps. There
> are probably 3,000 or so codes or combinations of keys.
>
> Chris
> 66 CJ-5
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Dave oboyle" <arizonaXj@h...> wrote:
>
>>I wouldn't go advertising that one... You may wind up missing a
>
> Jeep..
>
>>And having mine stolen once and broken into 4 times since owning it.
>>It's not fun to deal with missing a JEEP.....
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Michael Lake" <xjcountry93@m...>
>>>To: "Jeepers Group" <az_vjc@y...>,"My-wheelin-rights"
>>><4x4rights@y...>
>>>Subject: [az_vjc] Key from XJ, works on YJ/CJ
>>>Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 17:30:29 -0700
>>>
>>>Last night I was at my best friends house and was fooling around
>>
> and found
>
>>>that the key to my '93 cherokee worked better on his '91 Wrangler
>>
> on doors,
>
>>>rear door, and ignition, than his own key. But his key only worked
>>
> on my
>
>>>drivers side door and nothing else.
>>>
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56553 From: Ralph Williams <ralphbw@q...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:31pm
Subject: Re: Any Tucson Jeepers out there


I am in Tucson.

Ralph


jay197724 wrote:
> I'm new to the club and it seems like most of you folks live it the
> Valley. Is anyone out there in the Tucson Area?
>
>
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56554 From: Chris Meyer <chrismeyer@q...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:39pm
Subject: RE: Gilbert Jeeper


Warner and Lindsay here, Green 94 YJ with Tan Hard Top
(no stickers and is for sale, still staying in the Jeep family though!)

Welcome!

-----Original Message-----
From: ricklog502002 [mailto:rlogan@d...]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:18 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Gilbert Jeeper


I am moving to gilbert and looking for fellow jeepers in the
neighborhood i will be living aprox 1 mile east of guadalupe and
higly also will be glad to be in the valley to do wheelin once the
trails open again
richard logan




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56555 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:50pm
Subject: Re: I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear... anyone want to trade for a 36Tooth?


It is also perfect for 35s w/ 4.10s and an HD SYE.

Chris

On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 08:23 PM, Joe W wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> Anyone want to play pass around a speedo gear? I have a 34 and I need a
> 36-37 for a friend of mine.
> Anyone need a 34?
>
> A 34 would be perfect for 36" tires and 4.56:1 axle ratios...
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
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56556 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 9:56pm
Subject: Re: Re: something bad happened


Better watch it Joe, they are coming after you. From their website:

"The Ford Expeditions and Excursions (I avoid the Explorers), Chevy or
GMC Suburbans, 1500's, 2500's which often go by the Yukon and Tahoe
name. The Cadillac Escalade, Toyota Land Cruiser, Land and Range Rovers
and **Lexus LX470** are all to be considered targets of opportunity."

Chris

On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 08:56 PM, linda luik wrote:

> Here's one of the anti-suv groups that is vandalizing vehicles by
> putting bumper stickers on them.
>
> http://www.changingtheclimate.com/
>
> Linda
>
> parajeeper wrote:
>>
>> What side of town is this happening on? Is it a valley wide thing, I
>> hope all of you come to my double murder trial if I ever catch some
>> idiot couple scraping my something off of my jeep with a paper clip
>> or writing on it.
>>
>> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
>>> According to the witnesses (as described below), the suspects drove
>>> off in a SUV. Damn hypocrites!
>>>
>>> -Roger
>>>
>>> linda luik wrote:
>>>
>>>> There is a group out there whose sole intent is to deface SUVs. I
>> found
>>>> their website a year or so ago. I guess they were able to recruit
>> some
>>>> volunteers in the Phoenix area. Too bad they weren't caught.
>>>>
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>> Sandee McCullen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Another slant on "REI"............ they are GREEN, supported
>> by the greens
>>>>> and very anti motorized recreationists. Maybe it would be a
>> good idea to
>>>>> check out Popular Surplus next time when looking for camping
>> supplies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Years ago I had someone "KEY" my Scout in an REI parking
>> lot.......... Same
>>>>> type incident....... inside less than 20 minutes looking for
>> sleeping bags.
>>>>> It was definitely a "key" gouge.... not a bump from a nearby
>> door. ???????
>>>>>
>>>>> Sandee
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:52 PM
>>>>>> To: 'chaton602'; az_vjc@y...
>>>>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] something bad happened
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just FYI, I believe this is the second or third incident of
>> someone
>>>>>> stealing or trying to steal club stickers.
>>>>>> I don't think it is the work of eco-terrorist but just some
>> jealous
>>>>>> people looking for a great last minute fathers day gift.
>>>>>> I am telling you they are really cool stickers.
>>>>>> Joey K
>>>>>> 93YJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: chaton602 [mailto:chaton602@y...]
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:11 AM
>>>>>> To: az_vjc@y...
>>>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] something bad happened
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last night while I was at REI, something happened to my jeep.
>> I went
>>>>>> inside to look around for a tent and was inside for about 20
>> minutes.
>>>>>> when I came out, I noticed that somebody attempted to take
>> off my
>>>>>> AZVJC stickers, well, at least the drivers side one. but the
>> right
>>>>>> side, as with the left side was written on with a black felt
>> marker
>>>>>> and scratched off with a paper clip that they dropped. a
>> witness said
>>>>>> that is was a man and woman both looking like they're in late
>> 30's
>>>>>> early 40's. they drove off in a new Saturn SUV, the color,
>> unknown.
>>>>>> anyway, I fixed the damage that was minimal, and now I'm
>> looking for
>>>>>> some new stickers, again. without using the Internet, where
>> can i
>>>>>> pick a couple up?
>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>> Anthony C.
>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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56557 From: Steve Meyer <steve.j.meyer@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:25pm
Subject: RE: HELP...cracked exhaust manifold


I have welded three up so far. Two YJ and one ZJ. If you pull it out and bring it over I will weld it up. I weld the hell out of them...all the way up the yoke to the tub branches. But I am leaving in two days and will be gone for a couple weeks. Just an additional note...the job of pulling the manifold is a real SOB. Also, you will need to get a new gasket for when you put it back together.

--Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Kris R [mailto:this_chix_tj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] HELP...cracked exhaust manifold


Is there anyone out there that's willing to take a look at my exhaust leak and weld it? I know this is just a temporary solution, but that's all I can do for now. I'll bring the Jeep to you, along with pizza, beer and payment. I'm getting dizzy from inhaling exhaust fumes!! Kris




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56558 From: monosyllabicguy78 <monosyllabicguy@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:26pm
Subject: who's doing gear swaps?


i remember seeing posts about people doing gear swaps for $100. are any of these people still around? im really just looking to install a detroit in the rear of my CJ and ive heard its a good idea to check the setup of the gears afterwards. ive had the detroit for a while now and im itching to get it installed. ive been quoted $330 for the job and i think thats just too much. if anyone has any info for me, please shoot me a note. thanks,
Joey


56559 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 10:34pm
Subject: Re: Driveline advice


ArizonaXJ.Rockcrawler.com
The article is called Driveline angle

Dave



>From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Driveline advice
>Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:41:54 -0700
>
>In the tech section there is a write up I had done on how to check the
>angles. You might find it some help.
>
>
> >
> > Message: 11 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 13:26:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Darin
> > Barbour <crin69@y...> Subject: Re: Re: Driveline advice
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the input. I guess I will crawl under it this weekend
> > and try the cheaper way out first. Cheap is good! I appreciate the
> > help from everyone. jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...> wrote: Darin,
> >
> > As Randy & I have said, you need to set your pinion angle for a
>driveline
> > to work correctly.
> >
> > If you insist on shelling out some cash for a CV shaft go ahead and
>get
> > one, but you still might have the vibes if you don't set your pinion
> > angle. IMO I don't see any reason for an XJ with 3" of lift to have
> > a CV shaft. Your drivelines are longer than mine and I didn't have
> > to get a CV shaft until I went over 3".
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., Darin Barbour wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for the info. I have dropped my T-case already (1"), but
> >>
> > it didn't get me anywhere. I guess the pinion angle or the CV is all
> that is left.
> >
> >>I have read about the AZ driveline CV shaft. Any input on that???
> >>
> > I definitely wouldn't have the expertise to start cutting up my
> > driveline.
> >
> >>Thanks for all the info.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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56560 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:03pm
Subject: RE: I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear... anyone want to trade for a 36Tooth?


Joe,

I have two 37 tooth gears if you want one.

Scott K

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:24 PM
To: Azvjc (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear... anyone want to
trade for a 36Tooth?


Hi Gang,

Anyone want to play pass around a speedo gear? I have a 34 and I need a
36-37 for a friend of mine. Anyone need a 34?

A 34 would be perfect for 36" tires and 4.56:1 axle ratios...

Joe West




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56561 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:26pm
Subject: I'm appalled


TO: suv@changingtheclimate.com

Hello,

I just came across your website and I'm appalled at your behavior. I cannot believe that you advocate criminal behavior such as tagging. Who's to say that the owner of a Suburban doesn't have 7 kids and needs the room? Maybe they run a charity and need the space to help the needy. Or just maybe they pickup little old ladies every Sunday and take them to church? To target such vehicles without discretion is just plain wrong.

I AM AN "ENVIRONMENTALIST"! My good friend Stu said it best in the following article. I think you should all read it and think about the choices you are making. You have no idea what the word means.

http://stu-offroad.com/misc/environment.htm

Have a good day.

Scott Kruize
Avondale, AZ

PS: I own a gas sipping '01 Honda Civic as my daily driver. My Jeep is a recreational vehicle. I am doing my part to help out in a manner that produces results.


56562 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 17, 2002 11:27pm
Subject: [FS] FOR SALE 1987 Ford F-250


Price: $2500.00

Contact: rwallace167@cox.net

1987 Ford F-250, Current Tags, Engine 460, Trans 4 speed. Truck has high mileage but is very dependable. Call or e-mail for more info. Cell phone 602-620-0445 home phone 480-557-0523 e-mail rwallace167@cox.net


Ron Wallace


56563 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 0:13am
Subject: Who had the J10 Doors


Whom ever had the J10 doors will you please e-mail me...

I have a friend that is interested in them..

Dave

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56564 From: Mitch Woodward <mitchwoodward@h...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 0:23am
Subject: Re: I'm appalled


Scott,

I've visited this website. Frankly, if you read their own rules, they are targeting soccer moms with hulking suv's, and others who don't need to drive such large suv's. They suggest not tagging 4x4's, pickups, old trucks, and work vehicles. Read for yourself at the end.

I personally have issues with famlies that have 7 children in an overpopulated world, but that's another whole arguement

Mitch

Our Rules & Guidlines for Successful and
Ethical Big Game SUV Tagging:
1. Only tag the big ones. The Ford Expeditions and Excursions (I avoid the Explorers), Chevy or GMC Suburbans, 1500's, 2500's which often go by the Yukon and Tahoe name. The Cadillac Escalade, Toyota Land Cruiser, Land and Range Rovers and Lexus LX470 are all to be considered targets of opportunity. It is best to tag in the affluent suburbs where you will notice the Urban Assault Vechicles are never dirty. I figure that most people in rural areas are probably using them for a functional purpose and therefore don't tag in these areas.

2. Do not tag small SUV's such as any Suburu, Toyota 4Runner, etc. Owners of these small and reasonably fuel efficient SUV's keep complaining to me when they are tagged. We are after only the grotesque and bloated gas guzzling members of the SUV species.

3. Don't tag commercial vehicles, contractors, or any business affiliated vehicles. Also no pickup trucks. We have no gripe with people who really need these gas-guzzlers. It's the morons who are keeping up with the Jones' that raise my back hairs.

4. Don't retag vehicles that you recognize as already tagged (we can usually spot left over pieces from the original tagging).

5. We only tag late model vehicles, not some beat up old Suburban some poor soul has inherited.

6. Don't tag just because it's a four-wheel drive vehicle. Only the really big obnoxious ones.


----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: suv@changingtheclimate.com
Cc: AZ_VJC
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:26 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] I'm appalled


TO: suv@changingtheclimate.com

Hello,

I just came across your website and I'm appalled at your behavior. I cannot believe that you advocate criminal behavior such as tagging. Who's to say that the owner of a Suburban doesn't have 7 kids and needs the room? Maybe they run a charity and need the space to help the needy. Or just maybe they pickup little old ladies every Sunday and take them to church? To target such vehicles without discretion is just plain wrong.

I AM AN "ENVIRONMENTALIST"! My good friend Stu said it best in the following article. I think you should all read it and think about the choices you are making. You have no idea what the word means.

http://stu-offroad.com/misc/environment.htm

Have a good day.

Scott Kruize
Avondale, AZ

PS: I own a gas sipping '01 Honda Civic as my daily driver. My Jeep is a recreational vehicle. I am doing my part to help out in a manner that produces results.

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56565 From: bobandamanda2001 <dookie78@j...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 5:47am
Subject: Re: Gilbert Jeeper


I live north of Elliot, about half a mile east of Higley. Sounds like
we'll live very close. Drop me a line if you need anything. I drive a
chili pepper 99 TJ with 35's. Welcome to Gilbert!

Bob Kennedy
99 TJ


--- In az_vjc@y..., "ricklog502002" <rlogan@d...> wrote:
> I am moving to gilbert and looking for fellow jeepers in the
> neighborhood i will be living aprox 1 mile east of guadalupe and
> higly also will be glad to be in the valley to do wheelin once the
> trails open again
> richard logan


56566 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:02am
Subject: RE: Re: something bad happened


Kumbya my lord, kumby-ya...

<grin>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: chaton602 [mailto:chaton602@y...]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: something bad happened
>
>
> why cant we all just get along. : )
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., linda luik <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Here's one of the anti-suv groups that is vandalizing vehicles by
> > putting bumper stickers on them.
> >
> > http://www.changingtheclimate.com/
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > parajeeper wrote:
> > >
> > > What side of town is this happening on? Is it a valley wide
> thing, I
> > > hope all of you come to my double murder trial if I ever catch
> some
> > > idiot couple scraping my something off of my jeep with a paper
> clip
> > > or writing on it.
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@y..., "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> > > > According to the witnesses (as described below), the suspects
> drove
> > > > off in a SUV. Damn hypocrites!
> > > >
> > > > -Roger
> > > >
> > > > linda luik wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There is a group out there whose sole intent is to deface
> SUVs. I
> > > found
> > > > > their website a year or so ago. I guess they were able to
> recruit
> > > some
> > > > > volunteers in the Phoenix area. Too bad they weren't caught.
> > > > >
> > > > > Linda
> > > > >
> > > > > Sandee McCullen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Another slant on "REI"............ they are GREEN,
> supported
> > > by the greens
> > > > > > and very anti motorized recreationists. Maybe it would be a
> > > good idea to
> > > > > > check out Popular Surplus next time when looking for camping
> > > supplies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Years ago I had someone "KEY" my Scout in an REI parking
> > > lot.......... Same
> > > > > > type incident....... inside less than 20 minutes looking
> for
> > > sleeping bags.
> > > > > > It was definitely a "key" gouge.... not a bump from a
> nearby
> > > door. ???????
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sandee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:52 PM
> > > > > > > To: 'chaton602'; az_vjc@y...
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] something bad happened
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just FYI, I believe this is the second or third incident
> of
> > > someone
> > > > > > > stealing or trying to steal club stickers.
> > > > > > > I don't think it is the work of eco-terrorist but just
> some
> > > jealous
> > > > > > > people looking for a great last minute fathers day gift.
> > > > > > > I am telling you they are really cool stickers.
> > > > > > > Joey K
> > > > > > > 93YJ
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: chaton602 [mailto:chaton602@y...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:11 AM
> > > > > > > To: az_vjc@y...
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] something bad happened
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Last night while I was at REI, something happened to my
> jeep.
> > > I went
> > > > > > > inside to look around for a tent and was inside for about
> 20
> > > minutes.
> > > > > > > when I came out, I noticed that somebody attempted to take
> > > off my
> > > > > > > AZVJC stickers, well, at least the drivers side one. but
> the
> > > right
> > > > > > > side, as with the left side was written on with a black
> felt
> > > marker
> > > > > > > and scratched off with a paper clip that they dropped. a
> > > witness said
> > > > > > > that is was a man and woman both looking like they're in
> late
> > > 30's
> > > > > > > early 40's. they drove off in a new Saturn SUV, the color,
> > > unknown.
> > > > > > > anyway, I fixed the damage that was minimal, and now I'm
> > > looking for
> > > > > > > some new stickers, again. without using the Internet,
> where
> > > can i
> > > > > > > pick a couple up?
> > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > Anthony C.
> > > > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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56567 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:11am
Subject: RE: I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear... anyone want to trade for a 36Tooth?


Scott,

That is a very kind offer... Do you want to trade for the 34 tooth one?
I'm trying to help Scott Thomas out since he needs one...

Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:04 PM
> To: arizonajeep@c...; 'Azvjc (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear...
> anyone want to
> trade for a 36Tooth?
>
>
> Joe,
>
> I have two 37 tooth gears if you want one.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 8:24 PM
> To: Azvjc (E-mail)
> Subject: [az_vjc] I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear... anyone want to
> trade for a 36Tooth?
>
>
> Hi Gang,
>
> Anyone want to play pass around a speedo gear? I have a 34
> and I need a
> 36-37 for a friend of mine. Anyone need a 34?
>
> A 34 would be perfect for 36" tires and 4.56:1 axle ratios...
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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56568 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:18am
Subject: RE: I'm appalled


Scott,

Very well written... and right on the money. I have 7 family members and my Land Cruiser has one seat to spare when we go places... Since I also use it as a tow vehicle, a mini-van would not have worked for me... I needed a truck with room for 8; it kind of limits your choices. I wonder if these people think about such things when they deface someone else's property? Funny thing is; THEY are wasting resources since you are guaranteed that EVERY bumper sticker they use to tag will be torn off and thrown away. Seems like hypocrisy to me...

I really suspect however, that this is just a way for someone to make money... a scam to sell bumper stickers to the sheep who would think it a good idea to deface the property of others. I wonder if they will have the strength to respond to our comments...


Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 11:27 PM
To: suv@changingtheclimate.com
Cc: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] I'm appalled


TO: suv@changingtheclimate.com

Hello,

I just came across your website and I'm appalled at your behavior. I cannot believe that you advocate criminal behavior such as tagging. Who's to say that the owner of a Suburban doesn't have 7 kids and needs the room? Maybe they run a charity and need the space to help the needy. Or just maybe they pickup little old ladies every Sunday and take them to church? To target such vehicles without discretion is just plain wrong.

I AM AN "ENVIRONMENTALIST"! My good friend Stu said it best in the following article. I think you should all read it and think about the choices you are making. You have no idea what the word means.

http://stu-offroad.com/misc/environment.htm

Have a good day.

Scott Kruize
Avondale, AZ

PS: I own a gas sipping '01 Honda Civic as my daily driver. My Jeep is a recreational vehicle. I am doing my part to help out in a manner that produces results.

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56569 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:27am
Subject: RE: I'm appalled


Mitch,

Where does it say not to tag people with big families? It says to tag vehicles in the suburbs... where I live... and I have a large family. How in the world could they tell the difference between a Land Cruiser from a family with 7 children (such as mine) or a Land Cruiser from a family with one child? By the fingerprints on the rear most windows? There is no way for anyone who looks at a parked Land Cruiser to tell whether it is "needed" or not...

I suspect you don't mean to sound like you support what they do... but it kind of came off that way. If you have issues with my large family, I'd really like to hear about it off list.

Kind Regards,

Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:mitchwoodward@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:23 AM
To: Scott Kruize; AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I'm appalled


Scott,

I've visited this website. Frankly, if you read their own rules, they are targeting soccer moms with hulking suv's, and others who don't need to drive such large suv's. They suggest not tagging 4x4's, pickups, old trucks, and work vehicles. Read for yourself at the end.

I personally have issues with famlies that have 7 children in an overpopulated world, but that's another whole arguement

Mitch




56570 From: David Shields <drshieldsut@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 6:52am
Subject: Re: Married Wheeling


Sandee, thanks for the tip. I'll see how it works.

Dave
79 CJ-5

Message: 11
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 17:54:18 -0700
From: "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
Subject: Married wheeling


Subject: Married wheeling


Four married guys go 4wheeling.

After an hour, the following
conversation took place:

First guy: "You have no idea what I had to do to be
able to come out
wheeling this weekend. I had to promise my wife that I
will paint every
room in the house next weekend."

Second guy: "That is nothing, I had to promise my wife
that I will
build
her a new deck for the pool."

Third guy: "Man, you both have it easy! I had to
promise my wife that I
will remodel the kitchen for her."

They continue to ride & chat on the cb when they
realized that the
fourth guy has not said a word. So they asked him.
"You haven't said
anything about what you had to do to be able to come
out wheeling
this weekend. What's the deal?"

Fourth guy: "I just set my alarm for 5:30 am. When it
went off, I shut
off
the alarm, gave the wife a nudge and said,
"Fourwheeling or me," and
she said, "Wear a sweater."





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56571 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:04am
Subject: RE: I'm appalled


Joe,



It does sound that Mitch is supporting their cause, sorry Mitch but it does sound that way. Please clarify your point?





As far as I personally have issues with famlies that have 7 children in an overpopulated world, but that's another whole argument (oh by the way you misspelled families) some religions advocate big families.

I personally think you should rephrase your statement unless you really feel that way and if that is the case alls I can say is I am sorry for you.







Joe Kearney

Joe-CJ7@JRKearney.com







-----Original Message-----
From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@cox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 6:27 AM
To: 'Mitch Woodward'; 'Scott Kruize'; 'AZ_VJC'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] I'm appalled



Mitch,



Where does it say not to tag people with big families? It says to tag vehicles in the suburbs... where I live... and I have a large family. How in the world could they tell the difference between a Land Cruiser from a family with 7 children (such as mine) or a Land Cruiser from a family with one child? By the fingerprints on the rear most windows? There is no way for anyone who looks at a parked Land Cruiser to tell whether it is "needed" or not...



I suspect you don't mean to sound like you support what they do... but it kind of came off that way. If you have issues with my large family, I'd really like to hear about it off list.



Kind Regards,



Joe West

-----Original Message-----
From: Mitch Woodward [mailto:mitchwoodward@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 12:23 AM
To: Scott Kruize; AZ_VJC
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I'm appalled

Scott,



I've visited this website. Frankly, if you read their own rules, they are targeting soccer moms with hulking suv's, and others who don't need to drive such large suv's. They suggest not tagging 4x4's, pickups, old trucks, and work vehicles. Read for yourself at the end.



I personally have issues with famlies that have 7 children in an overpopulated world, but that's another whole arguement



Mitch






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56572 From: David Shields <drshieldsut@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:03am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2357


--- az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> There are 7 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Re: something bad happened
> From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> 2. RE: HELP...cracked exhaust manifold
> From: "Steve Meyer"
> <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> 3. who's doing gear swaps?
> From: "monosyllabicguy78"
> <monosyllabicguy@w...>
> 4. Re: Driveline advice
> From: "Dave oboyle"
> <arizonaXj@h...>
> 5. RE: I have a TJ 34Tooth Speedo gear...
> anyone want to trade for a 36Tooth?
> From: "Scott Kruize"
> <scottkruize@e...>
> 6. I'm appalled
> From: "Scott Kruize"
> <scottkruize@e...>
> 7. [FS] FOR SALE 1987 Ford F-250
> From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:56:40 -0700
> From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
> Subject: Re: Re: something bad happened
>
> Better watch it Joe, they are coming after you. From
> their website:
>
> "The Ford Expeditions and Excursions (I avoid the
> Explorers), Chevy or
> GMC Suburbans, 1500's, 2500's which often go by the
> Yukon and Tahoe
> name. The Cadillac Escalade, Toyota Land Cruiser,
> Land and Range Rovers
> and **Lexus LX470** are all to be considered targets
> of opportunity."
>
> Chris
>
> On Monday, June 17, 2002, at 08:56 PM, linda luik
> wrote:
>
> > Here's one of the anti-suv groups that is
> vandalizing vehicles by
> > putting bumper stickers on them.
> >
> > http://www.changingtheclimate.com/
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > parajeeper wrote:
> >>
> >> What side of town is this happening on? Is it a
> valley wide thing, I
> >> hope all of you come to my double murder trial if
> I ever catch some
> >> idiot couple scraping my something off of my jeep
> with a paper clip
> >> or writing on it.
> >>
> >> --- In az_vjc@y..., "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> wrote:
> >>> According to the witnesses (as described below),
> the suspects drove
> >>> off in a SUV. Damn hypocrites!
> >>>
> >>> -Roger
> >>>
> >>> linda luik wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> There is a group out there whose sole intent is
> to deface SUVs. I
> >> found
> >>>> their website a year or so ago. I guess they
> were able to recruit
> >> some
> >>>> volunteers in the Phoenix area. Too bad they
> weren't caught.
> >>>>
> >>>> Linda
> >>>>
> >>>> Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Another slant on "REI"............ they are
> GREEN, supported
> >> by the greens
> >>>>> and very anti motorized recreationists. Maybe
> it would be a
> >> good idea to
> >>>>> check out Popular Surplus next time when
> looking for camping
> >> supplies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Years ago I had someone "KEY" my Scout in an
> REI parking
> >> lot.......... Same
> >>>>> type incident....... inside less than 20
> minutes looking for
> >> sleeping bags.
> >>>>> It was definitely a "key" gouge.... not a
> bump from a nearby
> >> door. ???????
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sandee
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: DesertJeep [mailto:joey@d...]
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:52 PM
> >>>>>> To: 'chaton602'; az_vjc@y...
> >>>>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] something bad happened
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just FYI, I believe this is the second or
> third incident of
> >> someone
> >>>>>> stealing or trying to steal club stickers.
> >>>>>> I don't think it is the work of eco-terrorist
> but just some
> >> jealous
> >>>>>> people looking for a great last minute
> fathers day gift.
> >>>>>> I am telling you they are really cool
> stickers.
> >>>>>> Joey K
> >>>>>> 93YJ
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: chaton602 [mailto:chaton602@y...]
> >>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 1:11 AM
> >>>>>> To: az_vjc@y...
> >>>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] something bad happened
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Last night while I was at REI, something
> happened to my jeep.
> >> I went
> >>>>>> inside to look around for a tent and was
> inside for about 20
> >> minutes.
> >>>>>> when I came out, I noticed that somebody
> attempted to take
> >> off my
> >>>>>> AZVJC stickers, well, at least the drivers
> side one. but the
> >> right
> >>>>>> side, as with the left side was written on
> with a black felt
> >> marker
> >>>>>> and scratched off with a paper clip that they
> dropped. a
> >> witness said
> >>>>>> that is was a man and woman both looking like
> they're in late
> >> 30's
> >>>>>> early 40's. they drove off in a new Saturn
> SUV, the color,
> >> unknown.
> >>>>>> anyway, I fixed the damage that was minimal,
> and now I'm
> >> looking for
> >>>>>> some new stickers, again. without using the
> Internet, where
> >> can i
> >>>>>> pick a couple up?
> >>>>>> thanks
> >>>>>> Anthony C.
> >>>>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> >> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 22:25:35 -0700
> From: "Steve Meyer" <steve.j.meyer@c...>
> Subject: RE: HELP...cracked exhaust manifold
>
> I have welded three up so far. Two YJ and one ZJ.
> If you pull it out and
>
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56573 From: David Shields <drshieldsut@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:05am
Subject: Mr. Ed's Excellent Adventures?


Searched with goggle this morning and couldn't find
any place to buy Mr. Ed videos. Anyone know where I
can buy them?
Dave
79 CJ-5

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56574 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:13am
Subject: Re: Mr. Ed's Excellent Adventures?


That is a good question. I know Mr Ed is still around, I talked with
someone last week that spotted him with Dave Hickman.

--James

--- In az_vjc@y..., David Shields <drshieldsut@y...> wrote:
> Searched with goggle this morning and couldn't find
> any place to buy Mr. Ed videos. Anyone know where I
> can buy them?
> Dave
> 79 CJ-5
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56575 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:29am
Subject: RE: Mr. Ed's Excellent Adventures?


Try 4x4books.com............
or check with 4-wheelers supply. They used to have them.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Shields [mailto:drshieldsut@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:06 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Mr. Ed's Excellent Adventures?
>
>
> Searched with goggle this morning and couldn't find
> any place to buy Mr. Ed videos. Anyone know where I
> can buy them?
> Dave
> 79 CJ-5
>
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56576 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:07am
Subject: Re: Gilbert Jeeper


Hey Nasser,

I am just up the road from you, McQueen and Pecos...or down the road,
however you want to look at it :)

Mike Baney


--- In az_vjc@y..., "Nasser" <nasser88@c...> wrote:
> Richard,
>
> West Gilbert checking in. I live off of Elliot and McQueen.
Welcome to
> Gilbert. Holler if you need any help.
>
> Nasser
> 94 YJord
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ricklog502002 [mailto:rlogan@d...]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 12:18 PM
> To: az_vjc@y...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Gilbert Jeeper
>
> I am moving to gilbert and looking for fellow jeepers in the
> neighborhood i will be living aprox 1 mile east of guadalupe and
> higly also will be glad to be in the valley to do wheelin once the
> trails open again
> richard logan
>
>
>
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