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56302 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:19pm
Subject: Re: how to ramp
This is how you do it :)<A
HREF="http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=showMyPhoto
&albumID=40661627&photoID=40661815&security=piNGxA">Click here: My Photos -
(grand)</A>
Sharky
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56303 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:22pm
Subject: 8yr Old Wheeler
This is a pic of my 8yr old on upper Terminator showing mw how it is done :)
<A
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(Upper Terminator)</A>
Sharky
56304 From: Hogan Whittall <hogan@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: Re: Phone # for Superior Axle and Gear
(888) 522-2953
or
http://www.footeaxle.com/Pages/welcomes.html
--
Hogan Whittall
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB
To: AzVJC
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:18 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Phone # for Superior Axle and Gear
Anyone have their phone number??
TIA,
Doug
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56305 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:30pm
Subject: My Webshots Photos
Lets try those this way :)
Grand Wagoneer
http://cards.webshots.com/cp-27393531-ECoI-album/40661627uCzqwu
Cheers,
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56306 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:30pm
Subject: Re: Attention John Butler
Hey John,
Let me know how you guys like that set-up. I was looking at it also.
No big hurry, I am off to San Diego for the summer and the Jeep is
going on mothballs. See ya all when I get back. (Maybe the trails
will be open by then and we can get some wheelin in). Take care
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> John,
>
> Our Currie setups shipped yesterday. I have the tracking number if
you want
> it.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Joe West
> Synopsys Applications Consultant
> 2151 East Broadway Road, Suite 106
> Tempe, Arizona 85282
>
> Office: (480) 921-3732
> Cell: (602) 524-7632
> Fax: (480) 921-8883
56307 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:41pm
Subject: Re: [FS] holley pro-jection
Which system is it? 2D, 2Di, 4D, 4Di? Analog or digital?
Gary Holmes
AzVJC Website wrote:
Price: $400 obo
Contact: chris @602-526-2584
complete pro jection system. it is used but is in great condition.
chris jean
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56308 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:55pm
Subject: Re: Re: gas gauge
Robert,
Within the last few weeks my CJ started doing the same thing. I figure it's time to replace the 18-year-old sending unit. I ordered one that just arrived today. I hope I don't waste my effort removing the tank to install it and find out it's the gauge.
John Visic
84 CJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Holmes
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
The gas gage in our Scrambler reads full at full, Then 2 gallons below full it read 3/4 of a tank, and anything after that it just reads empty
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Holmes [mailto:niitoyis@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Garrison St.Clair
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
This must be a Jeep thing. Before I went to a Aero 40 gallon tank on my Full Size it would raed no higher than 3/4 tank and never lower than 1/4 tank. I have heard from others with this same problem.
Gary Holmes
Garrison St.Clair wrote:
James, et al:The gas tank in the YJ (and I believe the TJ as well) is made of plastic andwarps. There were several service bulletins about this. Depending on yourvehicles miles and the cooperation of the dealer, you might get thisreplaced free...thought it is sure to happen again.One solution is a new tank. I used www.aerotanks.com and have their 28gallon version. Came with all the bits and pieces.Usual disclaimer.GunslingerGunslinger's First Law: "No good deed goes unpunished."----- Original Message -----From: "jetowle2000" To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 June, 2002 15:14Subject: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
This is the way mine was. Then over the last couple of days it neverdropped below the red (1/8 of a tank). Also when I filled it up itwent way past full, it has never done this.So I am confused now. I will be carrying the reserve can for a whileuntil I figure it out. I am alright with the gauge being off as longas it is consistent.--James--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" wrote:
I have just the opposite problem with mine. It will only fill up a
little
over 3/4. When my gauge reads just about 1/4 tank I still have 1/2
tank
left.
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56309 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:08pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
The Trucklite brand lights at Lighthouse are more attractive than those at Napa. I searched high and low before choosing theones at Lighthouse. They are the Trucklite Super 40.
Scott
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:54:03 -0700 Joe W <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> David,
>
> I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell somewhere
> around 43rd Ave or so.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were they. I don't
> like the led ones either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> as normal
> as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> tail lights
> and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed out to him
> that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was power and black
> is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and
> the other
> is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As soon as we wired
> them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> signals blinked
> at the proper rate.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Chris
>
> See - I do know some CJ stuff
>
> > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the stock turn
> > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> have heard
> > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> each signal
> > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on this matter?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -- Eric
> >
> > 2002 TJ
> > 1979 CJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
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56310 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:07pm
Subject: Thanks to Al Baker
Just wanted to send a note of thanks out to Al Baker. I just settled up on
my gear install mix-up. He is truly a stand-up guy who backs up his work.
For all of you who may be using his services in the future, I say go for it.
Everybody makes a mistake now and then. I have always been happy with his
gear set-up. And now he made his mistake right. Thanks
Rick
XTRM XJ
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56311 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:11pm
Subject: Re: Score: Jeep 1, Honda Civic 0
Send her to me, nothing a little Sawzall action couldn't fix :-)
Tom
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56312 From: flexyxj <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:22pm
Subject: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
Flexy XJ
56313 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:27pm
Subject: Forest Fires!
I saw on the news in Colorado, there is a big fire going there and it is estimated to burn 200,000 acres.
Michael!
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56314 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:34pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
Make sure you get the kind with the reflective ring on them. Unless you
plan on adding some red reflective tape to the rear of your Jeep.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:54 PM
> To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg';
> 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell
> somewhere
> > around 43rd Ave or so.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> > To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were
> they. I don't
> > like the led ones either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> > as normal
> > as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> > tail lights
> > and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> > To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> > signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed
> out to him
> > that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was
> power and black
> > is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and the
> > other is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As
> soon as we
> > wired them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> > signals blinked
> > at the proper rate.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > See - I do know some CJ stuff
> >
> > > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> > >
> > > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the
> stock turn
> > > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> > have heard
> > > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> > each signal
> > > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> this matter?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -- Eric
> > >
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > 1979 CJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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56315 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 3:55pm
Subject: FOR SALE!
One TJ with a major attitude! It seems she wants to be a bull instead of a
Jeep and throw her rider with her mean death wobble from hell! Are there any
death wobble gurus here?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Sharky (and little miss attitude!)
56316 From: robert_j_rogers <robert.rogers@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Forest Fires! & Table Mesa.
I saw this at 6am that it had already burned 88,000 acres, and that
they wanted to move 1000 more people in to fight it. The fires on 17
looked as if someone started them while driving down the freeway.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Lake" <xjcountry93@m...> wrote:
> I saw on the news in Colorado, there is a big fire going there and
it is estimated to burn 200,000 acres.
>
> Michael!
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56317 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:01pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to Al Baker
Rick,
Glad to hear you worked things out with Al. I guess everyone can certainly
have an off day....I know I've had a few (especially with my 1st wife!) LOL
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Norman [mailto:4x4xfun1@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:07 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to Al Baker
Just wanted to send a note of thanks out to Al Baker. I just
settled up on my gear install mix-up. He is truly a stand-up guy who backs
up his work.
For all of you who may be using his services in the future,
I say go for it. Everybody makes a mistake now and then. I have always been
happy with his gear set-up. And now he made his mistake right. Thanks
Rick
XTRM XJ
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56318 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:08pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
Thanks Joe,
Yes indeed, I know I have a problem and it is caused by the airflow blockage
caused by my winch, solenoids, lights and brush guard. I'm relatively sure
I can cure it without having to relocate anything or making any changes to
my setup... other than a good radiator and hi flow water pump. I'll
probably take you up on your offer as soon as I finish making the changes to
my cooling system.
I connected the VDO sensor to the thermostat housing on the radiator side...
in the exact same location as the factory temperature sensor.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
>
> hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
> the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
> people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
> no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
> factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
> temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
> over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
> issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
> conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
> guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
> inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
> 204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
> to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
> goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
> checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
> NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
> people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
> which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
> actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
> prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
>
>
> Flexy XJ
>
>
>
>
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56319 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 5:22pm
Subject: Re: Cooling a 350 (revisited)
My sending unit is in the intake manifold just to the passenger's side of
the thrmostat on top up in front. Water flows through the block on both
sides, comes up through the heads to the front, and is brought together just
before the thermostat. It is essentially the last point before leaving the
motor and entering the radiator.
I've found cruising down the freeway is the BEST cooling I have so far.
That fixed blade fan spinning at around 2,800 rpm is sucking some SERIOUS
air. You can really hear it. I get about a 10-15F rise when I come to a
stop and begin to idle or sit in traffic. Today I was about 180F after
cruising around both on and off of the freeway.
I'm not sure what the temp would be if I was in 1st gear, wound up pretty
good, and not going very fast. Haven't tried that one yet. But I think it
is going to still run pretty cool due to the fact that the fan is REALLY
sucking some air when the rev's come up. I'll see when I get a chance to go
wheeling when it finally rains! ;-) LOL
Hope that helps.
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
To: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Cc: AzVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Cooling a 350 (revisited)
> Jay where is the sending unit of your water temp gauge???
>
> I have a crate 350, mild roller cam, quadrajet, 30 miles on the engine,
> Chevy 6 blade fan with clutch, 160 thermostat, 2 core griffin aluminum
> radiator.
>
> the temp outside reached up to 110, 1st gear on the sm420 and low on the
> atlas, pedal to the floor an temp would go slightly over 210.
>
> Crusing at 50 mph temp stays between 200 and 210....
>
> Im not sure if its because the fuel temp sending unit is right on the
block,
> between the hedders and that adds some temp. I have a 14 lb radiator cap
> and the overflow bottle never goes over the half level.
>
> Water temp gauge is an autometer ultralite electric if that matters....
>
> 50% water, 50% prestone II
>
> thanks in advance!
>
>
> Jesus Chio
> Home account
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>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
> CC: AzVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Fecha: Jueves, 13 de Junio de 2002 09:23 a.m.
> Asunto: [az_vjc] Cooling a 350 (revisited)
>
>
> >I had to share this with the group. I've been fighting a cooling
> >problem in my Jeep in the summers ever since I did the Chevy350 swap in
> >to it. For those that don't know, I have a CJ7 with Chevy 350, turbo350
> >combo. I finally have it to where I no longer worry about cooling
> >issues any more, even in 110F heat and in traffic. Here is what I did
> >and the results:
> >
> >1) Stock CJ7 7 blade fan with thermal fan clutch
> >2) 4 core radiator from Mepco (not their 3 core high efficiency one).
> >3) Custom made fan shroud with 1" plenum and 1/2 covering the depth of
> >the fan fins.
> >4) 160F high flow thermostat
> >5) Stock water pump
> >6) 70% water, 30% coolant
> >7) 4.56 gears
> >8) 38" tires
> >
> >I find, when the outside air temp is 105F or so, it runs 175 down the
> >freeway turning 2,800 rpm. When slowing to idle and in stop and go
> >traffic, it runs no more than 180F. So if anyone is considering this
> >swap, this is what I have done to solve my cooling problems. And it
> >works!
> >
> >Just FYI to those that may be having issues with this.
> >
> >--
> >----------------------------
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> >http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> >
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56320 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 5:27pm
Subject: Re: Gear install snafu.....Update!
Can you talk him in to installing a proper set for free? Or do you not
trust it at this point? That way he keeps his money and you get what you
intended in the first place and don't have to shell out more $$ to get it
done again.
Just a thought........
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
56321 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:27pm
Subject: Re: Gear install snafu.....Update!
He has already put in the 4.56's Jay.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jay Eller" <jay@t...> wrote:
> Can you talk him in to installing a proper set for free? Or do you
not
> trust it at this point? That way he keeps his money and you get
what you
> intended in the first place and don't have to shell out more $$ to
get it
> done again.
>
> Just a thought........
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
56322 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:12pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
After reading Joe's and Joe's posts (did that make sense?), I dropped a
line to a friend in Detroit. He is one of the three engineers that was
responsible for the Rubicon TJ. You wouldn't believe how that thing
came to be....but that is another story for another day.
I asked him about the gauges and how their signal is derived....time
averaged, are the gauges linear.....etc. His response is as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey Stu ...
"OFF THE RECORD" OF COURSE !
Uh Oh... busted ! One of my "pet peaves... "Truth in gauging" . The
computer does, and is conditioning the information. Fluctuating gauges
make a lot of customers very nervous. Many just don't understand.
Of course, if you really understand an engine, you know this is
"normal". However, too many complaints in the field. This has driven a
"dampened" gauge strategy.
I personally hate this... I want to know what's going on ! What's the
point of a gauge if it's not relaying accurate information ? Bet I'm
preaching to the choir on this one, right ?? LOL
Temp gauge holds 210 for a long time... then moves. It's been changed
several times since the launch of TJ.
The Volt gauge is really dampened.... averaged big time.
And the F ''n fuel gauge ! Don't even get me started on THAT one !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The remainder of the e-mail had to be cut out.....not ready for public
distribution. Hang in there....better things are hopefully coming if he
gets his way with the TJ. ;)
TC!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
Flexy XJ
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56323 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:17pm
Subject: [FS] 98 TJ Used Complete Soft Top and Tie Rod/ Draglink assembly
Price: See Below
Contact: (623) 932-4050
1998 TJ Used Factory OME Black Denim Complete Soft Top W/ Folding Roof Bow Assembly, two Clear side windows, and Clear Rear window, and mounting screws.
This *does not* include upper windows for factory half doors. Top is a little faded from use and windows have some scratches. $200.00 O.B.O
1998 TJ Stock Tie Rod Assembly with Draglink and tie rod ends. Tie Rod and Draglink are straight no bends or dents. Ends are a little worn. $75.00 O.B.O
Any questions contact me at (623) 932-4050 or e-mail at red_9inchtj@yahoo.com
I will accept paypal or credit card, if you don’t have cash or check.
Mark Folsom
Mark Folsom
56324 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:18pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
Hi Stu,
It's nice to have someone admit what we already knew... and while I
completely understand their reasoning for filtering the information which
goes to our gauges; there are a few of us who push their rigs to the point
where filtered information isn't good enough. Customers don't like fuel
gauges which move when you turn a corner, so the factory programs the
computer to ignore fluctuations in fuel level signals which are of short
duration... unfortunately, there are a few discriminating TJ owners out here
who NEED to know what the unfiltered data is... and short of reprogramming
the factory computer to take out the filtering windows... we are screwed
unless we replace the gauges.
I originally replaced my gauges because I wanted a different look in my flat
fender TJ... once I replaced them and discovered how "dynamic" things really
are when you aren't viewing the world through the filter of a computer; I'd
never even consider going back to the factory setup... no way... no how.
Back when I replaced my gauges... I didn't know that the instruments were
computer controlled... I didn't know that the data to the instruments was
filtered... but after replacing the gauges it became clear that DC engineers
HEAVILY filter the data that we see on our computer controlled instruments
<sigh>. Once again, an automotive manufacturer decides to save us from
ourselves.
Thanks again for the confirmation of our suspicions...
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:12 PM
> To: 'flexyxj'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Joe West
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ
> temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
>
> After reading Joe's and Joe's posts (did that make sense?), I
> dropped a
> line to a friend in Detroit. He is one of the three
> engineers that was
> responsible for the Rubicon TJ. You wouldn't believe how that thing
> came to be....but that is another story for another day.
>
> I asked him about the gauges and how their signal is derived....time
> averaged, are the gauges linear.....etc. His response is as follows:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Hey Stu ...
>
> "OFF THE RECORD" OF COURSE !
>
> Uh Oh... busted ! One of my "pet peaves... "Truth in gauging" . The
> computer does, and is conditioning the information.
> Fluctuating gauges
> make a lot of customers very nervous. Many just don't understand.
>
> Of course, if you really understand an engine, you know this is
> "normal". However, too many complaints in the field. This has driven a
> "dampened" gauge strategy.
>
> I personally hate this... I want to know what's going on ! What's the
> point of a gauge if it's not relaying accurate information ? Bet I'm
> preaching to the choir on this one, right ?? LOL
>
> Temp gauge holds 210 for a long time... then moves. It's been changed
> several times since the launch of TJ.
>
> The Volt gauge is really dampened.... averaged big time.
>
> And the F ''n fuel gauge ! Don't even get me started on THAT one !!!!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> The remainder of the e-mail had to be cut out.....not ready for public
> distribution. Hang in there....better things are hopefully
> coming if he
> gets his way with the TJ. ;)
>
> TC!
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
> hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
> the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
> people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
> no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
> factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
> temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
> over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
> issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
> conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
> guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
> inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
> 204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
> to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
> goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
> checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
> NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
> people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
> which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
> actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
> prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
>
>
> Flexy XJ
>
>
>
>
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56325 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:23pm
Subject: RE: FOR SALE!
Are you having the problems with your rig?
If so... check to make sure that the front track bar is TIGHT at the frame
end mount as well as the axle end.
Check your toe-in. Make sure your pitman arm is tight. Check ball
joints...
Any questions? Just bring your rig over this weekend and we'll fix her up.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:55 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] FOR SALE!
>
>
> One TJ with a major attitude! It seems she wants to be a
> bull instead of a
> Jeep and throw her rider with her mean death wobble from
> hell! Are there any
> death wobble gurus here?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
> Sharky (and little miss attitude!)
>
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56326 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:29pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
Gosh... you're right Scott... we wouldn't want to have "unattractive" tail
lights on our Jeeps.
<grin>
although I'd choose another descriptive word for the NAPA lights... "Manly".
Hey... would you find the NAPA lights more "attractive" if I painted them
purple???
ROTFL
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scottkruize@e... [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:09 PM
> To: arizonajeep@c...
> Cc: 'Scott Kruize'; 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> The Trucklite brand lights at Lighthouse are more attractive
> than those at Napa. I searched high and low before choosing
> theones at Lighthouse. They are the Trucklite Super 40.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:54:03 -0700 Joe W <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
>
> NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell
> somewhere
> > around 43rd Ave or so.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> > To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were
> they. I don't
> > like the led ones either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> > as normal
> > as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> > tail lights
> > and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> > To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> > signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed
> out to him
> > that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was
> power and black
> > is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and
> > the other
> > is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As soon as we wired
> > them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> > signals blinked
> > at the proper rate.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > See - I do know some CJ stuff
> >
> > > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> > >
> > > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the
> stock turn
> > > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> > have heard
> > > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> > each signal
> > > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> this matter?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -- Eric
> > >
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > 1979 CJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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56302 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:19pm
Subject: Re: how to ramp
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Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:22pm
Subject: 8yr Old Wheeler
This is a pic of my 8yr old on upper Terminator showing mw how it is done :)
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56304 From: Hogan Whittall <hogan@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:25pm
Subject: Re: Phone # for Superior Axle and Gear
(888) 522-2953
or
http://www.footeaxle.com/Pages/welcomes.html
--
Hogan Whittall
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB
To: AzVJC
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:18 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Phone # for Superior Axle and Gear
Anyone have their phone number??
TIA,
Doug
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56305 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:30pm
Subject: My Webshots Photos
Lets try those this way :)
Grand Wagoneer
http://cards.webshots.com/cp-27393531-ECoI-album/40661627uCzqwu
Cheers,
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56306 From: steverino1112000 <steverino1112000@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:30pm
Subject: Re: Attention John Butler
Hey John,
Let me know how you guys like that set-up. I was looking at it also.
No big hurry, I am off to San Diego for the summer and the Jeep is
going on mothballs. See ya all when I get back. (Maybe the trails
will be open by then and we can get some wheelin in). Take care
Nick Smith
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> John,
>
> Our Currie setups shipped yesterday. I have the tracking number if
you want
> it.
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> Joe West
> Synopsys Applications Consultant
> 2151 East Broadway Road, Suite 106
> Tempe, Arizona 85282
>
> Office: (480) 921-3732
> Cell: (602) 524-7632
> Fax: (480) 921-8883
56307 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:41pm
Subject: Re: [FS] holley pro-jection
Which system is it? 2D, 2Di, 4D, 4Di? Analog or digital?
Gary Holmes
AzVJC Website wrote:
Price: $400 obo
Contact: chris @602-526-2584
complete pro jection system. it is used but is in great condition.
chris jean
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56308 From: J & P Visic <jpvisic@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 6:55pm
Subject: Re: Re: gas gauge
Robert,
Within the last few weeks my CJ started doing the same thing. I figure it's time to replace the 18-year-old sending unit. I ordered one that just arrived today. I hope I don't waste my effort removing the tank to install it and find out it's the gauge.
John Visic
84 CJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Holmes
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
The gas gage in our Scrambler reads full at full, Then 2 gallons below full it read 3/4 of a tank, and anything after that it just reads empty
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Holmes [mailto:niitoyis@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:39 PM
To: Garrison St.Clair
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
This must be a Jeep thing. Before I went to a Aero 40 gallon tank on my Full Size it would raed no higher than 3/4 tank and never lower than 1/4 tank. I have heard from others with this same problem.
Gary Holmes
Garrison St.Clair wrote:
James, et al:The gas tank in the YJ (and I believe the TJ as well) is made of plastic andwarps. There were several service bulletins about this. Depending on yourvehicles miles and the cooperation of the dealer, you might get thisreplaced free...thought it is sure to happen again.One solution is a new tank. I used www.aerotanks.com and have their 28gallon version. Came with all the bits and pieces.Usual disclaimer.GunslingerGunslinger's First Law: "No good deed goes unpunished."----- Original Message -----From: "jetowle2000" To: Sent: Wednesday, 12 June, 2002 15:14Subject: [az_vjc] Re: gas gauge
This is the way mine was. Then over the last couple of days it neverdropped below the red (1/8 of a tank). Also when I filled it up itwent way past full, it has never done this.So I am confused now. I will be carrying the reserve can for a whileuntil I figure it out. I am alright with the gauge being off as longas it is consistent.--James--- In az_vjc@y..., "Siade, Randy" wrote:
I have just the opposite problem with mine. It will only fill up a
little
over 3/4. When my gauge reads just about 1/4 tank I still have 1/2
tank
left.
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56309 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:08pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
The Trucklite brand lights at Lighthouse are more attractive than those at Napa. I searched high and low before choosing theones at Lighthouse. They are the Trucklite Super 40.
Scott
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:54:03 -0700 Joe W <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> David,
>
> I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell somewhere
> around 43rd Ave or so.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were they. I don't
> like the led ones either.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> as normal
> as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> tail lights
> and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
>
> Scott K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed out to him
> that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was power and black
> is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and
> the other
> is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As soon as we wired
> them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> signals blinked
> at the proper rate.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Chris
>
> See - I do know some CJ stuff
>
> > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the stock turn
> > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> have heard
> > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> each signal
> > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on this matter?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > -- Eric
> >
> > 2002 TJ
> > 1979 CJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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56310 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:07pm
Subject: Thanks to Al Baker
Just wanted to send a note of thanks out to Al Baker. I just settled up on
my gear install mix-up. He is truly a stand-up guy who backs up his work.
For all of you who may be using his services in the future, I say go for it.
Everybody makes a mistake now and then. I have always been happy with his
gear set-up. And now he made his mistake right. Thanks
Rick
XTRM XJ
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56311 From: tom lafrance <tlafrance@j...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:11pm
Subject: Re: Score: Jeep 1, Honda Civic 0
Send her to me, nothing a little Sawzall action couldn't fix :-)
Tom
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56312 From: flexyxj <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:22pm
Subject: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
Flexy XJ
56313 From: Michael Lake <xjcountry93@m...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:27pm
Subject: Forest Fires!
I saw on the news in Colorado, there is a big fire going there and it is estimated to burn 200,000 acres.
Michael!
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56314 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 7:34pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
Make sure you get the kind with the reflective ring on them. Unless you
plan on adding some red reflective tape to the rear of your Jeep.
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe W [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 5:54 PM
> To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg';
> 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell
> somewhere
> > around 43rd Ave or so.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> > To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were
> they. I don't
> > like the led ones either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> > as normal
> > as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> > tail lights
> > and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> > To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> > signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed
> out to him
> > that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was
> power and black
> > is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and the
> > other is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As
> soon as we
> > wired them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> > signals blinked
> > at the proper rate.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > See - I do know some CJ stuff
> >
> > > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> > >
> > > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the
> stock turn
> > > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> > have heard
> > > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> > each signal
> > > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> this matter?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -- Eric
> > >
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > 1979 CJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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56315 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 3:55pm
Subject: FOR SALE!
One TJ with a major attitude! It seems she wants to be a bull instead of a
Jeep and throw her rider with her mean death wobble from hell! Are there any
death wobble gurus here?
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
Sharky (and little miss attitude!)
56316 From: robert_j_rogers <robert.rogers@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:00pm
Subject: Re: Forest Fires! & Table Mesa.
I saw this at 6am that it had already burned 88,000 acres, and that
they wanted to move 1000 more people in to fight it. The fires on 17
looked as if someone started them while driving down the freeway.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Michael Lake" <xjcountry93@m...> wrote:
> I saw on the news in Colorado, there is a big fire going there and
it is estimated to burn 200,000 acres.
>
> Michael!
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56317 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:01pm
Subject: RE: Thanks to Al Baker
Rick,
Glad to hear you worked things out with Al. I guess everyone can certainly
have an off day....I know I've had a few (especially with my 1st wife!) LOL
Timber Chucker!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Norman [mailto:4x4xfun1@cox.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:07 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Thanks to Al Baker
Just wanted to send a note of thanks out to Al Baker. I just
settled up on my gear install mix-up. He is truly a stand-up guy who backs
up his work.
For all of you who may be using his services in the future,
I say go for it. Everybody makes a mistake now and then. I have always been
happy with his gear set-up. And now he made his mistake right. Thanks
Rick
XTRM XJ
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56318 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:08pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
Thanks Joe,
Yes indeed, I know I have a problem and it is caused by the airflow blockage
caused by my winch, solenoids, lights and brush guard. I'm relatively sure
I can cure it without having to relocate anything or making any changes to
my setup... other than a good radiator and hi flow water pump. I'll
probably take you up on your offer as soon as I finish making the changes to
my cooling system.
I connected the VDO sensor to the thermostat housing on the radiator side...
in the exact same location as the factory temperature sensor.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
>
> hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
> the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
> people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
> no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
> factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
> temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
> over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
> issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
> conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
> guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
> inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
> 204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
> to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
> goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
> checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
> NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
> people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
> which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
> actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
> prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
>
>
> Flexy XJ
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
56319 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 5:22pm
Subject: Re: Cooling a 350 (revisited)
My sending unit is in the intake manifold just to the passenger's side of
the thrmostat on top up in front. Water flows through the block on both
sides, comes up through the heads to the front, and is brought together just
before the thermostat. It is essentially the last point before leaving the
motor and entering the radiator.
I've found cruising down the freeway is the BEST cooling I have so far.
That fixed blade fan spinning at around 2,800 rpm is sucking some SERIOUS
air. You can really hear it. I get about a 10-15F rise when I come to a
stop and begin to idle or sit in traffic. Today I was about 180F after
cruising around both on and off of the freeway.
I'm not sure what the temp would be if I was in 1st gear, wound up pretty
good, and not going very fast. Haven't tried that one yet. But I think it
is going to still run pretty cool due to the fact that the fan is REALLY
sucking some air when the rev's come up. I'll see when I get a chance to go
wheeling when it finally rains! ;-) LOL
Hope that helps.
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
To: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Cc: AzVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Cooling a 350 (revisited)
> Jay where is the sending unit of your water temp gauge???
>
> I have a crate 350, mild roller cam, quadrajet, 30 miles on the engine,
> Chevy 6 blade fan with clutch, 160 thermostat, 2 core griffin aluminum
> radiator.
>
> the temp outside reached up to 110, 1st gear on the sm420 and low on the
> atlas, pedal to the floor an temp would go slightly over 210.
>
> Crusing at 50 mph temp stays between 200 and 210....
>
> Im not sure if its because the fuel temp sending unit is right on the
block,
> between the hedders and that adds some temp. I have a 14 lb radiator cap
> and the overflow bottle never goes over the half level.
>
> Water temp gauge is an autometer ultralite electric if that matters....
>
> 50% water, 50% prestone II
>
> thanks in advance!
>
>
> Jesus Chio
> Home account
> Chief Editor : www.alloffroad.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
> CC: AzVJC <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Fecha: Jueves, 13 de Junio de 2002 09:23 a.m.
> Asunto: [az_vjc] Cooling a 350 (revisited)
>
>
> >I had to share this with the group. I've been fighting a cooling
> >problem in my Jeep in the summers ever since I did the Chevy350 swap in
> >to it. For those that don't know, I have a CJ7 with Chevy 350, turbo350
> >combo. I finally have it to where I no longer worry about cooling
> >issues any more, even in 110F heat and in traffic. Here is what I did
> >and the results:
> >
> >1) Stock CJ7 7 blade fan with thermal fan clutch
> >2) 4 core radiator from Mepco (not their 3 core high efficiency one).
> >3) Custom made fan shroud with 1" plenum and 1/2 covering the depth of
> >the fan fins.
> >4) 160F high flow thermostat
> >5) Stock water pump
> >6) 70% water, 30% coolant
> >7) 4.56 gears
> >8) 38" tires
> >
> >I find, when the outside air temp is 105F or so, it runs 175 down the
> >freeway turning 2,800 rpm. When slowing to idle and in stop and go
> >traffic, it runs no more than 180F. So if anyone is considering this
> >swap, this is what I have done to solve my cooling problems. And it
> >works!
> >
> >Just FYI to those that may be having issues with this.
> >
> >--
> >----------------------------
> >Jay Eller (http://community.webshots.com/user/four_by_nut)
> >http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
56320 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 5:27pm
Subject: Re: Gear install snafu.....Update!
Can you talk him in to installing a proper set for free? Or do you not
trust it at this point? That way he keeps his money and you get what you
intended in the first place and don't have to shell out more $$ to get it
done again.
Just a thought........
----------------------------
Jay Eller
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
56321 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 8:27pm
Subject: Re: Gear install snafu.....Update!
He has already put in the 4.56's Jay.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jay Eller" <jay@t...> wrote:
> Can you talk him in to installing a proper set for free? Or do you
not
> trust it at this point? That way he keeps his money and you get
what you
> intended in the first place and don't have to shell out more $$ to
get it
> done again.
>
> Just a thought........
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
56322 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 9:12pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
After reading Joe's and Joe's posts (did that make sense?), I dropped a
line to a friend in Detroit. He is one of the three engineers that was
responsible for the Rubicon TJ. You wouldn't believe how that thing
came to be....but that is another story for another day.
I asked him about the gauges and how their signal is derived....time
averaged, are the gauges linear.....etc. His response is as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hey Stu ...
"OFF THE RECORD" OF COURSE !
Uh Oh... busted ! One of my "pet peaves... "Truth in gauging" . The
computer does, and is conditioning the information. Fluctuating gauges
make a lot of customers very nervous. Many just don't understand.
Of course, if you really understand an engine, you know this is
"normal". However, too many complaints in the field. This has driven a
"dampened" gauge strategy.
I personally hate this... I want to know what's going on ! What's the
point of a gauge if it's not relaying accurate information ? Bet I'm
preaching to the choir on this one, right ?? LOL
Temp gauge holds 210 for a long time... then moves. It's been changed
several times since the launch of TJ.
The Volt gauge is really dampened.... averaged big time.
And the F ''n fuel gauge ! Don't even get me started on THAT one !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The remainder of the e-mail had to be cut out.....not ready for public
distribution. Hang in there....better things are hopefully coming if he
gets his way with the TJ. ;)
TC!
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
Flexy XJ
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56323 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:17pm
Subject: [FS] 98 TJ Used Complete Soft Top and Tie Rod/ Draglink assembly
Price: See Below
Contact: (623) 932-4050
1998 TJ Used Factory OME Black Denim Complete Soft Top W/ Folding Roof Bow Assembly, two Clear side windows, and Clear Rear window, and mounting screws.
This *does not* include upper windows for factory half doors. Top is a little faded from use and windows have some scratches. $200.00 O.B.O
1998 TJ Stock Tie Rod Assembly with Draglink and tie rod ends. Tie Rod and Draglink are straight no bends or dents. Ends are a little worn. $75.00 O.B.O
Any questions contact me at (623) 932-4050 or e-mail at red_9inchtj@yahoo.com
I will accept paypal or credit card, if you don’t have cash or check.
Mark Folsom
Mark Folsom
56324 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:18pm
Subject: RE: Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
Hi Stu,
It's nice to have someone admit what we already knew... and while I
completely understand their reasoning for filtering the information which
goes to our gauges; there are a few of us who push their rigs to the point
where filtered information isn't good enough. Customers don't like fuel
gauges which move when you turn a corner, so the factory programs the
computer to ignore fluctuations in fuel level signals which are of short
duration... unfortunately, there are a few discriminating TJ owners out here
who NEED to know what the unfiltered data is... and short of reprogramming
the factory computer to take out the filtering windows... we are screwed
unless we replace the gauges.
I originally replaced my gauges because I wanted a different look in my flat
fender TJ... once I replaced them and discovered how "dynamic" things really
are when you aren't viewing the world through the filter of a computer; I'd
never even consider going back to the factory setup... no way... no how.
Back when I replaced my gauges... I didn't know that the instruments were
computer controlled... I didn't know that the data to the instruments was
filtered... but after replacing the gauges it became clear that DC engineers
HEAVILY filter the data that we see on our computer controlled instruments
<sigh>. Once again, an automotive manufacturer decides to save us from
ourselves.
Thanks again for the confirmation of our suspicions...
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@q...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 9:12 PM
> To: 'flexyxj'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Joe West
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ
> temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
>
> After reading Joe's and Joe's posts (did that make sense?), I
> dropped a
> line to a friend in Detroit. He is one of the three
> engineers that was
> responsible for the Rubicon TJ. You wouldn't believe how that thing
> came to be....but that is another story for another day.
>
> I asked him about the gauges and how their signal is derived....time
> averaged, are the gauges linear.....etc. His response is as follows:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Hey Stu ...
>
> "OFF THE RECORD" OF COURSE !
>
> Uh Oh... busted ! One of my "pet peaves... "Truth in gauging" . The
> computer does, and is conditioning the information.
> Fluctuating gauges
> make a lot of customers very nervous. Many just don't understand.
>
> Of course, if you really understand an engine, you know this is
> "normal". However, too many complaints in the field. This has driven a
> "dampened" gauge strategy.
>
> I personally hate this... I want to know what's going on ! What's the
> point of a gauge if it's not relaying accurate information ? Bet I'm
> preaching to the choir on this one, right ?? LOL
>
> Temp gauge holds 210 for a long time... then moves. It's been changed
> several times since the launch of TJ.
>
> The Volt gauge is really dampened.... averaged big time.
>
> And the F ''n fuel gauge ! Don't even get me started on THAT one !!!!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> The remainder of the e-mail had to be cut out.....not ready for public
> distribution. Hang in there....better things are hopefully
> coming if he
> gets his way with the TJ. ;)
>
> TC!
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flexyxj [mailto:flexyxj98@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: For those of you who think your TJ temperature
> gauge is linear and somewhat accurate...
>
> hmmmm... Joe this is something that has been talked about in most of
> the ASE classes I have been involved in....Just imagine all of the
> people that if they see their guage moove just one little bit....Oh
> no my vehicle is overheating!!!! But in reality it is not....as per
> factory service/troubleshooting manual, the actual temp taken by the
> temp sender in the rear of the cylinder head is non-conclusive for an
> over heating concern. The only way to acuratly diagnose a overheating
> issue is by using BOTH a non-contact infered thermometer in
> conjunction with a DRB 2 or 3.....Now when my XJ shows 210 on the
> guage, I connect the DRB3 we have at the shop and scan the radiator
> inlet AND outlet temp with my raytek gun and it shows between 192 and
> 204 sitting idle in the shop with the air on.as the guage goes up due
> to the fact that I unplugged my elec fan when the CHECK GUAGES light
> goes on ( not the Check engine) it is at 225-232 by using the same
> checking method.....NOW we go to the FSM and it tells us this is
> NORMAL TEMP in a SEVERE CLIMATE........SEVERE CLIMATE
> people......read your owners manual for severe and normal and see
> which one fits.... joe I would be glad to do this with you to
> actually see what your temps are.....sounds like you might have a
> prob..... BTW....where did you put the sender for the VDO guage at????
>
>
> Flexy XJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
56325 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:23pm
Subject: RE: FOR SALE!
Are you having the problems with your rig?
If so... check to make sure that the front track bar is TIGHT at the frame
end mount as well as the axle end.
Check your toe-in. Make sure your pitman arm is tight. Check ball
joints...
Any questions? Just bring your rig over this weekend and we'll fix her up.
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sharxjeep@c... [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:55 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] FOR SALE!
>
>
> One TJ with a major attitude! It seems she wants to be a
> bull instead of a
> Jeep and throw her rider with her mean death wobble from
> hell! Are there any
> death wobble gurus here?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
> Sharky (and little miss attitude!)
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
56326 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Thu Jun 13, 2002 10:29pm
Subject: RE: Turn Signals
Gosh... you're right Scott... we wouldn't want to have "unattractive" tail
lights on our Jeeps.
<grin>
although I'd choose another descriptive word for the NAPA lights... "Manly".
Hey... would you find the NAPA lights more "attractive" if I painted them
purple???
ROTFL
Joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: scottkruize@e... [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:09 PM
> To: arizonajeep@c...
> Cc: 'Scott Kruize'; 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
>
>
> The Trucklite brand lights at Lighthouse are more attractive
> than those at Napa. I searched high and low before choosing
> theones at Lighthouse. They are the Trucklite Super 40.
>
> Scott
>
> On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:54:03 -0700 Joe W <arizonajeep@c...> wrote:
>
> NAPA at McDowell and Grand avenue has them as well
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 3:25 PM
> > To: 'David Withers'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > David,
> >
> > I got them at The Lighthouse. They are down off of McDowell
> somewhere
> > around 43rd Ave or so.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Withers [mailto:dwithers@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:01 PM
> > To: 'Scott Kruize'; 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper';
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Scott where did you get your lights, and how much were
> they. I don't
> > like the led ones either.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 11:48 PM
> > To: 'Chris Krieg'; 'parajeeper'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > I wired up some CJ lights on the front of my TJ and they work
> > as normal
> > as it did with the TJ signals. I also installed flush round
> > tail lights
> > and it is still normal. I think Chris is right.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:48 PM
> > To: parajeeper; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> >
> >
> > Most likely they are wired wrong. Do you have both parking and turn
> > signals working. Joe West's were like this until I pointed
> out to him
> > that his were wired wrong. He had assumed that red was
> power and black
> > is ground. Not true on the CJ lights. One wire is parking and
> > the other
> > is turn signal. They ground through the housing. As soon as we wired
> > them properly, he again had parking lights and the turn
> > signals blinked
> > at the proper rate.
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > See - I do know some CJ stuff
> >
> > > From: "parajeeper" <pwhhl@y...>
> > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:56:59 -0000
> > > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Turn Signals
> > >
> > > I recently removed the fenders on my TJ and replaced the
> stock turn
> > > signals with the turn signals from a 75 CJ. Now without the stock
> > > parking lights installed, the signals blink rather fast. I
> > have heard
> > > that I can put a 5.7 to 8 ohm resisitor pack inline with
> > each signal
> > > to slow this down. Does anyone have any suggestions on
> this matter?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > -- Eric
> > >
> > > 2002 TJ
> > > 1979 CJ
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