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1221 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Fragged Clutch
Linda,
I saw one on the way to work tonight it is totally stock but in pretty good
shape, the person wants 1,850 for it but I am sure you could walk away ahead
on this one..
I will stop by and chek it out in the morning. will give you an update if
you are interested, Also I know where there is a J10 pickup in rough shape
but lots of potential..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
To: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
Cc: William Mish <yldkat@m...>; AZ Jeep <az_vjc@m...>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fragged Clutch
>Sorry to hear about your clutch, but at least it happened before getting on
>the trail. I had the clutch fork pivot break free on my old Dodge truck. It
>took all of 5 seconds for it to bounce around inside the bellhousing before
it
>blew a hole through the top! When we finally got a closer look at it, the
>bellhousing had 5 large cracks, a hole the size of a creme filled donut on
>top, and was twisted like discarded aluminum can! Fortunately I was in
town
>when it happened.
>
>I started tearing apart the ZJ on Sunday only to discover that among all
the
>bits and pieces of metal my boyfriend has accumulated over the years there
>wasn't a round piece that was the right size for pushing out the old
bushing.
>Of course, the sleeve that the control bolt goes through moved while I had
the
>arm off and it took about 3.5 hours to get the control arm back on. The ZJ
>will be going into the Jeep dealer to get the bushing replaced. This is
going
>to be expensive.
>
>Troy: I am thinking about getting an older wagoneer to use as a rat truck.
I
>need a second vehicle. Would one of those big cruisers be a good choice? It
>might be used to haul a trailer once in a while too.
>
>
>Linda
>
>
>
>> Troy & Shannon Franks wrote:
>>
>> Well bill you missed a real nice trail... had 5 or 6 Jeeps run up the
>> class 4 and like 3 take the chicken trail.... get it fixed, and we
>> will have a run at it on saturday the 19th. Now that Shannon (my wife
>> has run it, we need to get linda to get that jeep fixed and all try it
>> again... Got hot there at the end.. glad to be home in the A/C
>>
>> Troy Franks
>> 69 Wagoneer
>> Shannon Franks
>> 88 Cherokee
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: William Mish
>> To: Ross W Skinner ; AZ_VJC
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 11:48 AM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Fragged Clutch
>>
>> Well, it appears I've joined the ranks of those who never
>> made it to the trailhead today...The plan was simple enough,
>> go out and have a good time with the gang out west of White
>> Tanks, I barely got the JEEP off the trailer, when disaster
>> struck in the form of an extremely disheartening grinding
>> and chewing noise emminating from the drivetrain. At first,
>> it was assumed I had grenaded the tranny, but closer
>> inspection upon arrival back home, revealed the culprit of
>> the God Awful crunching sound from underneath my JEEP to
>> actually be the clutch. I can't see it making that much
>> noise without at least the pressure plate being completely
>> nuked. Well, I think the only appropriate action would be to
>> wallow in my own self pity for at least today (while
>> everyone else has fun) and then tear it apart starting
>> tomorrow..sob,... sniffle,... It only makes it worse that
>> this would have been my first run with you guys, Geez, I
>> hope this doesn't set the tone for future trips. I guess in
>> a way it beats having to take a strap all the way back from
>> the middle of the run. Guess that just goes to show you,
>> mechanical failure has no prejudice. Be Good.
>> Later.
>> Wildcat
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1222 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 10:02pm
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Sound nice and cool to me!!!!
Let me look at my map I think there are some good trails
up near show-low...
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
-----Original Message-----
From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:14 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
>This came in off the website. Any takers?
>
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>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:56:44 -0700
>Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
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>
>Hey how about a jeep trip up to the great white
>north.....eh....Flagstaff that is. Afew of us would love to be able to
>join in on the fun.
>
>If you could give me directions to a couple of class 3 trails up here it
>would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks.
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1223 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 10:48pm
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
I was kinda wondering when we'd get to cooler altitudes, BTW, I've managed
to resurrect my clutch, workin' on new skid plates now. I wonder how that
Carter carb would do with the combination of altitude and off camber??
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
To: <az_vjc@m...>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> I'm game for a run up north. I wouldn't mind camping out either. Looking
for
> at least a class 3, preferably 4.
>
> Scott Kruize
> OSMTJ@p...
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB <daballard@p...>
> To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>; James A Langdon
> <yucca-man@j...>
> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:23 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
>
>
> I've done some trails up on the Rim, but nothing challenging. I'd be very
> interested in heading up to the cooler climate real soon for some camping
> and trail fun, but don't know any good trails. Any ideas?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
> To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>
> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:16 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
>
>
> This came in off the website. Any takers?
>
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> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: brian <b0h105@h...>
> To: Yucca-man@j...
> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:56:44 -0700
> Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> Message-ID: <3764615C.C9A934D1@h...>
>
> Hey how about a jeep trip up to the great white
> north.....eh....Flagstaff that is. Afew of us would love to be able to
> join in on the fun.
>
> If you could give me directions to a couple of class 3 trails up here it
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks.
> boh105@u...
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1224 From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 11:06pm
Subject: white tanks confusion
OK guys, I am going to go to the Ranger station Wed and talk to them personally. The first time the wife and I went out to the White tanks, we did some light wheeling, and scouted out places to go driving. Well out a bit on a trail we passed a County cop. he just waved and we passed on by. With 2 houses and a water tank less then 2 miles from the start of the class 4 trail, and the cop and all.. I think I need to check out the topo maps myself.
Nick (nnote) did you come into the white tanks from the north side?? Olive is the street you get into the park from, and the only way to get to the ranger station from where we wheel at is take the sun valley parkway, or hop on I-10 and head 8 miles back to town and then north lots of miles... we are well south of the White Tank Moutain regional park from the map I have.. page 57 of the phone book, but will go out and talk to the rangers and find out for sure.
Troy
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1225 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 11:03pm
Subject: pics from Sunday's class 4 run
Hi all
I'm getting too lazy to do the short novel trail reports, so I posted a
bunch of pictures to a photopoint site. I figured that the pictures would
tell the story better than I could anyway. :-)
Here's the link:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=41056&a=271409
if you have trouble clicking on the link, go to http://www.photopoint.com
and search for kermit@f... in the "view a member's albums" box.
I'll update the captions on the photo's tomorrow.
-Len Sullivan 1978 J-10
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1226 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 9:33am
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
quite nice.
Linda
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1228 From: <EricKool@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 6:59am
Subject: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Sounds great to me. How about on the 4th of July weekend.
Eric
(JPnDutch)
In a message dated 06/15/99 11:29:33 AM , p14175@e... writes:
<< How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
in
the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
quite nice.
Linda >>
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1229 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 0:15pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
Linda
EricKool@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sounds great to me. How about on the 4th of July weekend.
>
> Eric
> (JPnDutch)
>
> In a message dated 06/15/99 11:29:33 AM , p14175@email.sps.mot.com writes:
>
> << How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
> in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda >>
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1230 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 0:22pm
Subject: Northern New Mexico
This is a little in the future, and kind of far away but, I thought I would post it and extend an invation to anyone who might be interested.
I am from New Mexico, Los Alamos to be exact, (that is the place where you shop for nuclear secrets)anyway I am headed up to northern NM the end of july for some fishing and fourwheeling. I am going to a place named
Canjilon Lakes. It is about 2 hours north of Santa Fe. They are more like ponds or mud puddles than lakes But, it is beautiful there high alpine meadows aspen trees and plenty of roads to explore around class 3 to 4. The roads are not rocky like around Phoenix. If it is dry you can probably pretty much go anywhere but if it is wet we will have some fun in the mud. The thing I like most about this area is there are very few people around. If you like to get away from the crowds this is a very good spot. Everyone seems to prefer Taos and Red River. This a very undiscovered part of New Mexico.
If anybody is interested in more info let me know. I will probably mention this again in July.
Joe Chavez
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1231 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 1:20pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Linda Luik wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
> Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
> 4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
>
> Linda
>
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Just a suggestion here.....
To get out of the heat for the 4th of July.
Our local club goes to the Payson Area.
Last year there was a great event, games, runs
ice cream social, camping. I think it is put on
by the Rim Country 4-Wheelers. I don't see anything
on the ASA4WDC calender. We had a great time last
year. It was not over crowded! Just 4-wheeler families!
I will be up there this year too.
If anyone is interested I can get more info.
Leah "SHE-J" 94YJ Tucson
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1232 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Hi Leah, Sounds interesting. If you have any info, I'd likely be up for it.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Linda Luik wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
> Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
> 4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
>
> Linda
>
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Just a suggestion here.....
To get out of the heat for the 4th of July.
Our local club goes to the Payson Area.
Last year there was a great event, games, runs
ice cream social, camping. I think it is put on
by the Rim Country 4-Wheelers. I don't see anything
on the ASA4WDC calender. We had a great time last
year. It was not over crowded! Just 4-wheeler families!
I will be up there this year too.
If anyone is interested I can get more info.
Leah "SHE-J" 94YJ Tucson
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1233 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 7:24pm
Subject: more pictures from Sunday
Hi all
I am in the process of posting another 27 pictures to my photopoint site.
These were taken by Mike and Laurie, who ran the trail (except for the class
4 stuff) in their 1991 Chevy Z71. Some are different views of the first
batch, some are brand new, so go take a look!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=41056&a=271409
-Len Sullivan 1978 J-10
-FSJ List Administrator
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1234 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 8:07pm
Subject: White tanks (troy)
Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it is somewhere I would like to go....but...
I drove into that area to see if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened so that is when I went to the front gate.
I have the map from the gate here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the south east side!
Nick
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1235 From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 8:18pm
Subject: Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
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nnote wrote:
> Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit
> 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white
> tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it
> is somewhere I would like to go....but...I drove into that area to see
> if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened
> so that is when I went to the front gate.I have the map from the gate
> here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like
> I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world
> of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The
> proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered
> everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over
> it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the
> south east side!
I've been up the "big dirt road" on the southeast side of the mountain.
It is graded and has signs along the side of the road that tells the per
cent grade of the road, the distance that you have been traveling along
at the grade and the amount of distance to go before the grade amount of
the road changes again. The only reason 4WD is needed is that 2WD
would tear up the road where the wheels spin.
The road starts at the west end of Indian school (just slightly north of
the intersection of Indian School and I believe 195th Ave. There is a
big locked gate blocking the way. The road leads up to the radio towers
at the top of the mtn.
Eric -- who has yet to go on an outing.
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1236 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
p14175@e... writes:
> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there
> are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda
I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close to
the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The best
camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
cool and nice.
I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
Any takers?
-- Dan
Revolvr@a...
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1237 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 9:17pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
I'd be up for some hiking. I agree w/ Dan...before or after the 4th would be best to avoid a zoo.
-----Original Message-----
From: Revolvr@aol.com <Revolvr@aol.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
p14175@email.sps.mot.com writes:
> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there
> are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda
I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close to
the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The best
camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
cool and nice.
I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
Any takers?
-- Dan
Revolvr@aol.com
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1238 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 10:05pm
Subject: Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
It also happens to be the old Caterpillar proving grounds....
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From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
To: <az_vjc@m...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 8:18 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
>
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> nnote wrote:
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> > Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit
> > 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white
> > tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it
> > is somewhere I would like to go....but...I drove into that area to see
> > if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened
> > so that is when I went to the front gate.I have the map from the gate
> > here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like
> > I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world
> > of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The
> > proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered
> > everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over
> > it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the
> > south east side!
>
> I've been up the "big dirt road" on the southeast side of the mountain.
> It is graded and has signs along the side of the road that tells the per
> cent grade of the road, the distance that you have been traveling along
> at the grade and the amount of distance to go before the grade amount of
> the road changes again. The only reason 4WD is needed is that 2WD
> would tear up the road where the wheels spin.
>
> The road starts at the west end of Indian school (just slightly north of
> the intersection of Indian School and I believe 195th Ave. There is a
> big locked gate blocking the way. The road leads up to the radio towers
> at the top of the mtn.
>
> Eric -- who has yet to go on an outing.
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1239 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 10:17pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
Linda, Dan,
How is the wheeling at the cinders? Is this similar to driving on sand?
Seems like it would be.
I am interested in attending this run, I would like to camp out also.
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport.
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From: Revolvr@a... <Revolvr@a...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
>In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
>p14175@e... writes:
>
>> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
in
>> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of
there
>> are
>> quite nice.
>>
>> Linda
>
>I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
>Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close
to
>the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
>
>The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
>one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
>Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
>Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
>
>I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
>avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
>pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The
best
>camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
>cool and nice.
>
>I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
>day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
>left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
>'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
>
>Any takers?
>
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1240 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 16, 1999 0:05am
Subject: No Subject
Scott,
I was wondering what you and some of the others that happend to finish Tr42.
thought the rating of the trail was. Also did it get worse after the BIG hill climb
or were we almost to the end of the trail..
I wanted to appolagize to everyone that attended the Tr42 run, I am still new at this
and am trying to do the best I can. The Big hill climb was just too much for me. I
would also like to thank the Guy (forgot name) who helped spot me on numerous occasions
I may not have made it as far as I did without his help. Also I would like to thank the driver
of the 98Xj for taking soo many pix of my ride oh and strapping me when i got stuck.
I really enjoyed the run and got lots of puker out of it. This was about the hardest trail I
have run. Thanks agian to all I had A great time. Looking forward to seeing you all agian.
Scott, Great job as leader too..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
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1241 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Jun 16, 1999 0:38am
Subject: 42
Anyone gonna do a trail report for Trail 42?
I endid up with a crease in my body brace from the sand berm I had to get tugged off of. The center of the crease goes right between the two bolts that mount the transfer case, ofcourse, they are about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch pushed verticly from their original positions. Anyone know how to get this bend out? I think it will take some serious weight/pressure.
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1221 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 9:47pm
Subject: Re: Fragged Clutch
Linda,
I saw one on the way to work tonight it is totally stock but in pretty good
shape, the person wants 1,850 for it but I am sure you could walk away ahead
on this one..
I will stop by and chek it out in the morning. will give you an update if
you are interested, Also I know where there is a J10 pickup in rough shape
but lots of potential..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
To: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
Cc: William Mish <yldkat@m...>; AZ Jeep <az_vjc@m...>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fragged Clutch
>Sorry to hear about your clutch, but at least it happened before getting on
>the trail. I had the clutch fork pivot break free on my old Dodge truck. It
>took all of 5 seconds for it to bounce around inside the bellhousing before
it
>blew a hole through the top! When we finally got a closer look at it, the
>bellhousing had 5 large cracks, a hole the size of a creme filled donut on
>top, and was twisted like discarded aluminum can! Fortunately I was in
town
>when it happened.
>
>I started tearing apart the ZJ on Sunday only to discover that among all
the
>bits and pieces of metal my boyfriend has accumulated over the years there
>wasn't a round piece that was the right size for pushing out the old
bushing.
>Of course, the sleeve that the control bolt goes through moved while I had
the
>arm off and it took about 3.5 hours to get the control arm back on. The ZJ
>will be going into the Jeep dealer to get the bushing replaced. This is
going
>to be expensive.
>
>Troy: I am thinking about getting an older wagoneer to use as a rat truck.
I
>need a second vehicle. Would one of those big cruisers be a good choice? It
>might be used to haul a trailer once in a while too.
>
>
>Linda
>
>
>
>> Troy & Shannon Franks wrote:
>>
>> Well bill you missed a real nice trail... had 5 or 6 Jeeps run up the
>> class 4 and like 3 take the chicken trail.... get it fixed, and we
>> will have a run at it on saturday the 19th. Now that Shannon (my wife
>> has run it, we need to get linda to get that jeep fixed and all try it
>> again... Got hot there at the end.. glad to be home in the A/C
>>
>> Troy Franks
>> 69 Wagoneer
>> Shannon Franks
>> 88 Cherokee
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: William Mish
>> To: Ross W Skinner ; AZ_VJC
>> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 11:48 AM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Fragged Clutch
>>
>> Well, it appears I've joined the ranks of those who never
>> made it to the trailhead today...The plan was simple enough,
>> go out and have a good time with the gang out west of White
>> Tanks, I barely got the JEEP off the trailer, when disaster
>> struck in the form of an extremely disheartening grinding
>> and chewing noise emminating from the drivetrain. At first,
>> it was assumed I had grenaded the tranny, but closer
>> inspection upon arrival back home, revealed the culprit of
>> the God Awful crunching sound from underneath my JEEP to
>> actually be the clutch. I can't see it making that much
>> noise without at least the pressure plate being completely
>> nuked. Well, I think the only appropriate action would be to
>> wallow in my own self pity for at least today (while
>> everyone else has fun) and then tear it apart starting
>> tomorrow..sob,... sniffle,... It only makes it worse that
>> this would have been my first run with you guys, Geez, I
>> hope this doesn't set the tone for future trips. I guess in
>> a way it beats having to take a strap all the way back from
>> the middle of the run. Guess that just goes to show you,
>> mechanical failure has no prejudice. Be Good.
>> Later.
>> Wildcat
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1222 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 10:02pm
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Sound nice and cool to me!!!!
Let me look at my map I think there are some good trails
up near show-low...
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
-----Original Message-----
From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>
Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:14 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
>This came in off the website. Any takers?
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>Hey how about a jeep trip up to the great white
>north.....eh....Flagstaff that is. Afew of us would love to be able to
>join in on the fun.
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>If you could give me directions to a couple of class 3 trails up here it
>would be greatly appreciated.
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1223 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 10:48pm
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
I was kinda wondering when we'd get to cooler altitudes, BTW, I've managed
to resurrect my clutch, workin' on new skid plates now. I wonder how that
Carter carb would do with the combination of altitude and off camber??
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
To: <az_vjc@m...>
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
> I'm game for a run up north. I wouldn't mind camping out either. Looking
for
> at least a class 3, preferably 4.
>
> Scott Kruize
> OSMTJ@p...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB <daballard@p...>
> To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>; James A Langdon
> <yucca-man@j...>
> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:23 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
>
>
> I've done some trails up on the Rim, but nothing challenging. I'd be very
> interested in heading up to the cooler climate real soon for some camping
> and trail fun, but don't know any good trails. Any ideas?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
> To: az_vjc@m... <az_vjc@m...>
> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:16 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
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> This came in off the website. Any takers?
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> Hey how about a jeep trip up to the great white
> north.....eh....Flagstaff that is. Afew of us would love to be able to
> join in on the fun.
>
> If you could give me directions to a couple of class 3 trails up here it
> would be greatly appreciated.
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> thanks.
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1224 From: Troy & Shannon Franks <tsfranks@i...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 11:06pm
Subject: white tanks confusion
OK guys, I am going to go to the Ranger station Wed and talk to them personally. The first time the wife and I went out to the White tanks, we did some light wheeling, and scouted out places to go driving. Well out a bit on a trail we passed a County cop. he just waved and we passed on by. With 2 houses and a water tank less then 2 miles from the start of the class 4 trail, and the cop and all.. I think I need to check out the topo maps myself.
Nick (nnote) did you come into the white tanks from the north side?? Olive is the street you get into the park from, and the only way to get to the ranger station from where we wheel at is take the sun valley parkway, or hop on I-10 and head 8 miles back to town and then north lots of miles... we are well south of the White Tank Moutain regional park from the map I have.. page 57 of the phone book, but will go out and talk to the rangers and find out for sure.
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1225 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Mon Jun 14, 1999 11:03pm
Subject: pics from Sunday's class 4 run
Hi all
I'm getting too lazy to do the short novel trail reports, so I posted a
bunch of pictures to a photopoint site. I figured that the pictures would
tell the story better than I could anyway. :-)
Here's the link:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=41056&a=271409
if you have trouble clicking on the link, go to http://www.photopoint.com
and search for kermit@f... in the "view a member's albums" box.
I'll update the captions on the photo's tomorrow.
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1226 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 9:33am
Subject: Re: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
quite nice.
Linda
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1228 From: <EricKool@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 6:59am
Subject: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Sounds great to me. How about on the 4th of July weekend.
Eric
(JPnDutch)
In a message dated 06/15/99 11:29:33 AM , p14175@e... writes:
<< How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
in
the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
quite nice.
Linda >>
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1229 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 0:15pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
Linda
EricKool@aol.com wrote:
>
> Sounds great to me. How about on the 4th of July weekend.
>
> Eric
> (JPnDutch)
>
> In a message dated 06/15/99 11:29:33 AM , p14175@email.sps.mot.com writes:
>
> << How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
> in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda >>
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1230 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 0:22pm
Subject: Northern New Mexico
This is a little in the future, and kind of far away but, I thought I would post it and extend an invation to anyone who might be interested.
I am from New Mexico, Los Alamos to be exact, (that is the place where you shop for nuclear secrets)anyway I am headed up to northern NM the end of july for some fishing and fourwheeling. I am going to a place named
Canjilon Lakes. It is about 2 hours north of Santa Fe. They are more like ponds or mud puddles than lakes But, it is beautiful there high alpine meadows aspen trees and plenty of roads to explore around class 3 to 4. The roads are not rocky like around Phoenix. If it is dry you can probably pretty much go anywhere but if it is wet we will have some fun in the mud. The thing I like most about this area is there are very few people around. If you like to get away from the crowds this is a very good spot. Everyone seems to prefer Taos and Red River. This a very undiscovered part of New Mexico.
If anybody is interested in more info let me know. I will probably mention this again in July.
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1231 From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@m...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 1:20pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Linda Luik wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
> Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
> 4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
>
> Linda
>
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Just a suggestion here.....
To get out of the heat for the 4th of July.
Our local club goes to the Payson Area.
Last year there was a great event, games, runs
ice cream social, camping. I think it is put on
by the Rim Country 4-Wheelers. I don't see anything
on the ASA4WDC calender. We had a great time last
year. It was not over crowded! Just 4-wheeler families!
I will be up there this year too.
If anyone is interested I can get more info.
Leah "SHE-J" 94YJ Tucson
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1232 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Hi Leah, Sounds interesting. If you have any info, I'd likely be up for it.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Leah Eliscu <eliscu@mmsi.com>
To: AZ_vjc@makelist.com <AZ_vjc@makelist.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 1:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Flagstaff - The Cinders - 4th of July
Linda Luik wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I am booked every weekend from now through July 17-18.
> Holiday weekends at the Cinders are a zoo! ATVs, dirt bikes, sand rails,
> 4x4s! Maybe some other weekend.
>
> Linda
>
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Just a suggestion here.....
To get out of the heat for the 4th of July.
Our local club goes to the Payson Area.
Last year there was a great event, games, runs
ice cream social, camping. I think it is put on
by the Rim Country 4-Wheelers. I don't see anything
on the ASA4WDC calender. We had a great time last
year. It was not over crowded! Just 4-wheeler families!
I will be up there this year too.
If anyone is interested I can get more info.
Leah "SHE-J" 94YJ Tucson
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1233 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@f...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 7:24pm
Subject: more pictures from Sunday
Hi all
I am in the process of posting another 27 pictures to my photopoint site.
These were taken by Mike and Laurie, who ran the trail (except for the class
4 stuff) in their 1991 Chevy Z71. Some are different views of the first
batch, some are brand new, so go take a look!
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=41056&a=271409
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1234 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 8:07pm
Subject: White tanks (troy)
Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it is somewhere I would like to go....but...
I drove into that area to see if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened so that is when I went to the front gate.
I have the map from the gate here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the south east side!
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1235 From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 8:18pm
Subject: Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
nnote wrote:
> Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit
> 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white
> tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it
> is somewhere I would like to go....but...I drove into that area to see
> if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened
> so that is when I went to the front gate.I have the map from the gate
> here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like
> I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world
> of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The
> proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered
> everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over
> it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the
> south east side!
I've been up the "big dirt road" on the southeast side of the mountain.
It is graded and has signs along the side of the road that tells the per
cent grade of the road, the distance that you have been traveling along
at the grade and the amount of distance to go before the grade amount of
the road changes again. The only reason 4WD is needed is that 2WD
would tear up the road where the wheels spin.
The road starts at the west end of Indian school (just slightly north of
the intersection of Indian School and I believe 195th Ave. There is a
big locked gate blocking the way. The road leads up to the radio towers
at the top of the mtn.
Eric -- who has yet to go on an outing.
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1236 From: <Revolvr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 5:01pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
p14175@e... writes:
> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there
> are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda
I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close to
the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The best
camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
cool and nice.
I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
Any takers?
-- Dan
Revolvr@a...
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1237 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 9:17pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
I'd be up for some hiking. I agree w/ Dan...before or after the 4th would be best to avoid a zoo.
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From: Revolvr@aol.com <Revolvr@aol.com>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
p14175@email.sps.mot.com writes:
> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping in
> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of there
> are
> quite nice.
>
> Linda
I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close to
the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The best
camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
cool and nice.
I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
Any takers?
-- Dan
Revolvr@aol.com
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1238 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 10:05pm
Subject: Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
It also happens to be the old Caterpillar proving grounds....
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric Lawson <elawson@i...>
To: <az_vjc@m...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 8:18 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: White tanks (troy) (fwd)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> nnote wrote:
>
> > Hey Troy, Let me know what you find out. What I did was go to exit
> > 114 where ya'll met and just crossed the highway north into white
> > tanks area. There looked to be some great 4wheeling everywhere so it
> > is somewhere I would like to go....but...I drove into that area to see
> > if I could see any of you or hear ya'll on the cb. Neither happened
> > so that is when I went to the front gate.I have the map from the gate
> > here next to me and it has no offroad travel signs all over it. Like
> > I said earlier you might want to check out the topo map at Mesa world
> > of maps, I know the blm land you have to get a permit for. The
> > proving grounds wasn't that large but the white tanks park covered
> > everything else and that's what has the no offroad travel all over
> > it. I would love to go up that big dirt road you see going up the
> > south east side!
>
> I've been up the "big dirt road" on the southeast side of the mountain.
> It is graded and has signs along the side of the road that tells the per
> cent grade of the road, the distance that you have been traveling along
> at the grade and the amount of distance to go before the grade amount of
> the road changes again. The only reason 4WD is needed is that 2WD
> would tear up the road where the wheels spin.
>
> The road starts at the west end of Indian school (just slightly north of
> the intersection of Indian School and I believe 195th Ave. There is a
> big locked gate blocking the way. The road leads up to the radio towers
> at the top of the mtn.
>
> Eric -- who has yet to go on an outing.
>
>
>
>
>
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1239 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Tue Jun 15, 1999 10:17pm
Subject: Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
Linda, Dan,
How is the wheeling at the cinders? Is this similar to driving on sand?
Seems like it would be.
I am interested in attending this run, I would like to camp out also.
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport.
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From: Revolvr@a... <Revolvr@a...>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 9:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Cinders/Lockett Meadow
>In a message dated 6/15/99 9:29:27 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
>p14175@e... writes:
>
>> How about the Cinders OHV area? Janus (Double) Crater is awesome. Camping
in
>> the Cinders isn't that great, but Lockett Meadow and areas north of
there
>> are
>> quite nice.
>>
>> Linda
>
>I highly recommend camping at Lockett Meadow if we go wheeling at the
>Cinders. This is a great place at the foot of the Inner Basin, very close
to
>the Cinders, in a scenic Aspen forest, at about 8500 feet.
>
>The camping is considered primitive, with no facilities, although there is
>one outhouse near the hiking trailhead. The Trailhead leads into the Inner
>Basin and offers some great hiking. You can even connect to the Weatherford
>Trail which will get you to the summit of Mt. Humphrey's.
>
>I would recommend a trip the week before or the week after 4th of July to
>avoid the crowds (6/25 or 7/9). Some of us could go on Friday afternoon to
>pick a camp site. The camp sites are large enough for a good crowd. The
best
>camp sites are near the trailhead (and the outhouse). The weather will be
>cool and nice.
>
>I might be inclined to hike to the summit one day and go wheeling another
>day. I tried to reach the summit last year about this time, but late snows
>left the trails impassible above 10,000 feet without the right equipment.
>'Course it was fun being waist deep in snow in June.
>
>Any takers?
>
>-- Dan
>Revolvr@a...
>
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1240 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 16, 1999 0:05am
Subject: No Subject
Scott,
I was wondering what you and some of the others that happend to finish Tr42.
thought the rating of the trail was. Also did it get worse after the BIG hill climb
or were we almost to the end of the trail..
I wanted to appolagize to everyone that attended the Tr42 run, I am still new at this
and am trying to do the best I can. The Big hill climb was just too much for me. I
would also like to thank the Guy (forgot name) who helped spot me on numerous occasions
I may not have made it as far as I did without his help. Also I would like to thank the driver
of the 98Xj for taking soo many pix of my ride oh and strapping me when i got stuck.
I really enjoyed the run and got lots of puker out of it. This was about the hardest trail I
have run. Thanks agian to all I had A great time. Looking forward to seeing you all agian.
Scott, Great job as leader too..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
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1241 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Jun 16, 1999 0:38am
Subject: 42
Anyone gonna do a trail report for Trail 42?
I endid up with a crease in my body brace from the sand berm I had to get tugged off of. The center of the crease goes right between the two bolts that mount the transfer case, ofcourse, they are about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch pushed verticly from their original positions. Anyone know how to get this bend out? I think it will take some serious weight/pressure.
Nick
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