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1151 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 8, 1999 11:06pm
Subject: more Jamboree
Five more photos from the Jamboree. These were converted from digital video
from a Sony TR315 to JPEG. They are in their own album just to keep them
straight.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=255975
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1152 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 9:44am
Subject: Re: Canyon De chelly
I have a freind who's wife is Navaho Indian and has family on the reservation.
I asked Him if he could talk to his wife to see if she knew antone in that area.
I will find out more in the next week or so..
This would be a really cool trip to take.
Thanks to william for the great pix..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
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1153 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:31am
Subject: Re: Canyon De Chelly
I am sorry I made a mistake Thanks to John Loveless for the great pix of
The Jeep Jamboree in Canyon De Chelly ..
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1154 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 7:25pm
Subject: Gear Ratio - Tire Chart
I'd been looking for this chart and finally found it. Thought I'd pass it on to the group.
http://www.thuntek.net/4wd/gear_tire_chart.htm
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1155 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 9:54pm
Subject: Moab bound
Short notice I know, but the weekend of June 19/20 I will be wheeling in Moab. My plan is to leave Friday 18th noonish and return Monday 21st bright and early in the morning. No plans on exactly which trails will be run though.
Some camping, some wheeling ... should be fun. Anyone here is welcome to come along. I will be in my '98 XJ (it can't seem to get enough of Moab). My buddy will be along with his '90 XJ.
Come on, you know you want to come :)
Contact me here or by email for more info
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1156 From: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:15pm
Subject: Differentials
Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
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Leonard K. Pennock
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1157 From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:58pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
>Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
>carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
>Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
>
>--
>Leonard K. Pennock
Greetings,
I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
North Phoenix. 587-1863
Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
ARB's. Very happy with his work.
Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
as prices may vary a little.
Hope this helps,
Uncle Mike
Phoenix, AZ.
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1158 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 11:58pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
You Betcha.. Take it to 4 Wheeler's Supply. They do good work and pricing is
good. They're off 36th st. and Washington Their phone is 273-7195 Be Good.
Later.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
To: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Differentials
>
> >Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
> >carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
> >Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
> >
> >--
> >Leonard K. Pennock
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
> North Phoenix. 587-1863
>
> Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
> my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
> over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
> for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
> ARB's. Very happy with his work.
>
> Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
> as prices may vary a little.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Uncle Mike
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
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1159 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 5:44am
Subject: Re: Differentials
4 Wheeler Supply on E. Washington. Very good work and very experienced.
Doug
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From: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@home.com>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Differentials
Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
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1160 From: <rnealh@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 7:52am
Subject: Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
How long do you think this run will take? I want to go but have other plans late Sat afternoon. Looks like its only about a 15 mile trail.
Rick
<001a01beafd3$ee8052a0$463fa4c-@skruiz> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1122
> Dave,
>
> I figure the main group will leave N. Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy around 8:15 on Saturday morning and should be at Rattlesnake Cove around 8:45. From there it's a short drive to the turnoff where we can all air down. See you there.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> ok sounds good.. What time ???? we really have not worked on any time frames yet..
> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:49 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> The left hand turn off I want to take is now on the tar. It is between Rattlesnake Cove and the flats. That's why I suggested you backtracking up to Rattlesnake Cove to meet up with us. The area down by the flats is pretty crowded on a Saturday morning so I'd rather use this bypass that runs about halfway up the hillside parallel to the lake and leads to the northernmost coves.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oboyle@m... <oboyle@m...>
> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> Scott,
> you have set up a good plan. The last time I was at bartlett they had paved the road all the way down to
> the turnoff wher you can head to the flats. is this the place to meet? where the pavment ends..
>
> Also anyone who wants to head up on the 11th is more than welcome to join us. Friday afternoon at carefree rd. and cavecreek rd. on the southeast corner. We will have to work on a time later on this week.. deffinately before sundown.. If any one needs directions to get there just e-mail me and i'll give em up.. I am working on a quick little map I'll try to attach it to the next note i send out.
>
> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:27 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I've got some updates on the Trail 42 run set for Saturday, June 12th.
>
> Due to the afternoon heat I propose meeting at 8:00 AM in the parking lot near the grocery store just southwest of Carefree Hwy and Scottsdale Rd. I think it would be easier for those unfamiliar with the area to meet at this location.
>
> At Bartlett Lake we will be starting the trail by going through the main recreation area and will need to pay a parking fee of $4 per vehicle if we stop to use any facilities. I have contacted the Cave Creek Ranger District of Tonto NF and as long as we are only passing through we will not be required to pay the fee.
>
> I will not be camping at the lake, so far I've heard that Dave will be camping at Bartlett with his XJ on Friday night. I'm sure he'd be more than happy to have company. I propose that any one camping out at Bartlett be at Rattlesnake Cove at 8:30 and be on channel 4. That way they will be able to join up with us as we pass. From there it is only a few minutes until the road becomes gravel and we turnrnoff. At this point we can air down and disconnect our swaybars.
>
> I prefer to take a route that runs along the hill thru a narrow sandy wash north of The Flats and leads to a few coves on the northwest side of the lake. This way we can avoid the crowds parked all over the place down at The Flats. At this point we will follow near the shore a short distance and then begin our journey on FR 42. For those that have a copy of the Arizona Atlas & Gazeteer: Topo Maps Of The Entire State, look on page 50 in the lower left corner and you'll find the trail. (If you'd like a copy they can be found at Wide World of Maps. I'd recommend getting one. Even though many of the trails we run are not well marked on it, I find it to be a valuable resource for getting a sense of where I'm going nontheless.)
>
> Hope to see as many of you as possible,
>
> Scott Kruize
> OSMTJ@p...
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1161 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:17am
Subject: Re: Differentials
LockRites are nice lockers. Had one in my Geo Tracker. Really improved its
offroad performance.
I have a TracLoc in the ZJ's rear axle and it will stay until the entire axle
gets replaced. Actually, I haven't had a choice! There aren't many options for
the D35C that I would even consider! The TracLoc actually works quite well
(the 105 in. wheelbase helps) and at 80k miles it is still as tight as it was
when it was installed by the factory.
New diff carriers cost $50-$75, but you might be able to get one for a salvage
yard for less.
LockRites are relatively easy to install and so are diff carriers so the cost
shouldn't be too high.
Have fun!
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1162 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:24am
Subject: camping at bartlett
It looks like I am not going to be able to camp out this weekend. I am on the
duty pager (7x24 coverage) for the upcoming week. Ain't work fun!
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1163 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:53am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I am getting ready to change my gearing. I have done some research and have come to the the conclusion that "Toys By Troy Metal Fabrications" 3650 W. Sweetwater Phoenix 697-8753, is the best bet. I do most of my own work on my vehicles. I installed my Terraflex lift myself and have always tinkered with cars. This is one of the few jobs I would not do myself, and I would not consider price in my decision. Also TBT fabricates almost anything for your Jeep and does an excellant job.
Also if you have any intentions of installing lockers this would be the time to do it.
But thats only my opinion. Good luck.
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1164 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 9:14am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I have wanted the phone # and address for Toys by Troy. Thanks! I saw the work
they did on Dave Hickman's TJ (AZLR4WDC) last year at the ASA4WDC Jamboree and
was quite impressed by the quality. I thought they were only a fabrication
shop.
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1165 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Moab bound
You got my attention! I'm always up for Moab. Tell me more!
James
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From: jeffm@desertwave.com <jeffm@desertwave.com>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Moab bound
Short notice I know, but the weekend of June 19/20 I will be wheeling in Moab. My plan is to leave Friday 18th noonish and return Monday 21st bright and early in the morning. No plans on exactly which trails will be run though.
Some camping, some wheeling ... should be fun. Anyone here is welcome to come along. I will be in my '98 XJ (it can't seem to get enough of Moab). My buddy will be along with his '90 XJ.
Come on, you know you want to come :)
Contact me here or by email for more info
Jeff
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1166 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
The run should only take until the early afternoon. I plan on sticking
around and exploring some of the other trails in the area if anyone wants to
join me.
Scott Kruize
-----Original Message-----
From: rnealh@y... <rnealh@y...>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 7:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
>How long do you think this run will take? I want to go but have other
plans late Sat afternoon. Looks like its only about a 15 mile trail.
>
>Rick
>
> <001a01beafd3$ee8052a0$463fa4c-@skruiz> wrote:
>Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1122
>> Dave,
>>
>> I figure the main group will leave N. Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy
around 8:15 on Saturday morning and should be at Rattlesnake Cove around
8:45. From there it's a short drive to the turnoff where we can all air
down. See you there.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
>> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> ok sounds good.. What time ???? we really have not worked on any time
frames yet..
>> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
>> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:49 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> The left hand turn off I want to take is now on the tar. It is between
Rattlesnake Cove and the flats. That's why I suggested you backtracking up
to Rattlesnake Cove to meet up with us. The area down by the flats is pretty
crowded on a Saturday morning so I'd rather use this bypass that runs about
halfway up the hillside parallel to the lake and leads to the northernmost
coves.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oboyle@m... <oboyle@m...>
>> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>> you have set up a good plan. The last time I was at bartlett they had
paved the road all the way down to
>> the turnoff wher you can head to the flats. is this the place to meet?
where the pavment ends..
>>
>> Also anyone who wants to head up on the 11th is more than welcome to join
us. Friday afternoon at carefree rd. and cavecreek rd. on the southeast
corner. We will have to work on a time later on this week.. deffinately
before sundown.. If any one needs directions to get there just e-mail me and
i'll give em up.. I am working on a quick little map I'll try to attach it
to the next note i send out.
>>
>> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
>> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:27 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I've got some updates on the Trail 42 run set for Saturday, June
12th.
>>
>> Due to the afternoon heat I propose meeting at 8:00 AM in the parking
lot near the grocery store just southwest of Carefree Hwy and Scottsdale Rd.
I think it would be easier for those unfamiliar with the area to meet at
this location.
>>
>> At Bartlett Lake we will be starting the trail by going through the
main recreation area and will need to pay a parking fee of $4 per vehicle if
we stop to use any facilities. I have contacted the Cave Creek Ranger
District of Tonto NF and as long as we are only passing through we will not
be required to pay the fee.
>>
>> I will not be camping at the lake, so far I've heard that Dave will
be camping at Bartlett with his XJ on Friday night. I'm sure he'd be more
than happy to have company. I propose that any one camping out at Bartlett
be at Rattlesnake Cove at 8:30 and be on channel 4. That way they will be
able to join up with us as we pass. From there it is only a few minutes
until the road becomes gravel and we turnrnoff. At this point we can air
down and disconnect our swaybars.
>>
>> I prefer to take a route that runs along the hill thru a narrow sandy
wash north of The Flats and leads to a few coves on the northwest side of
the lake. This way we can avoid the crowds parked all over the place down
at The Flats. At this point we will follow near the shore a short distance
and then begin our journey on FR 42. For those that have a copy of the
Arizona Atlas & Gazeteer: Topo Maps Of The Entire State, look on page 50 in
the lower left corner and you'll find the trail. (If you'd like a copy they
can be found at Wide World of Maps. I'd recommend getting one. Even though
many of the trails we run are not well marked on it, I find it to be a
valuable resource for getting a sense of where I'm going nontheless.)
>>
>> Hope to see as many of you as possible,
>>
>> Scott Kruize
>> OSMTJ@p...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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1167 From: <jimsmith@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 6:07pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
<375fe3d7.3f7d974-@e...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1164
> I have wanted the phone # and address for Toys by Troy. Thanks! I saw the work
> they did on Dave Hickman's TJ (AZLR4WDC) last year at the ASA4WDC Jamboree and
> was quite impressed by the quality. I thought they were only a fabrication
> shop.
>
> Linda
>
I just had some work done by Troy and you have got to see the rock crawler he is building for Dave now. It is something to behold.
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1168 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:11pm
Subject: 42
For trail 42, Saturday morning, what are the final decided plans? See ya there, oh and the mother is gonna ride along for this one!
Nick
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1169 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:35pm
Subject: Trail 42 - Bartlett Lake to Horseshoe Lake
I'd just like to review the plans for Saturday with everyone.
The main group will meet in the grocery store parking lot southwest of N
Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy at 8:00 AM. We will meet up with Dave and any
others camping out at Rattlesnake Cove between 8:30-8:45. From there it's
only a few minutes to the turnoff where we will air down.
The trail will end up near Horseshoe Lake. We should finish up in the early
afternoon.
Please be sure to gas up your Jeep before we meet. There is a gas station
off Carefree Hwy between I-17 and the meeting place. For those coming up
Scottsdale Rd there are not any stations that I remember north of Frank
Lloyd Wright (Bell Rd).
It sounds like we've got between 12-16 Jeeps in the group. We'll be using
channel 4 as usual.
See you all soon :)
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1170 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:54pm
Subject: Speedometer
I was out driving with a friend who had a gps the other day and the difference between the speedometer reading and the gps was quite large. I really didn't know my Jeep could go that fast. So, I found a mathmatical way to get your correct speed, within 2% it is supposed to be.
(rpm) x (actuall tire size) divided by (xfer case gear ratio) x (gear ratio) x (336) = mph
My tires are by tape measure, 30.1 inches. My transfer case (the 231) is 4.11 gear ratio. My 5th gear ratio is .85
So....
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(xfer case 4.11) x (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
At around 3200 rpm my speedometer would show about 72 mph, I am actually travelling 82 mph!
Well, just fyi
Nick
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1171 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 6:54am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I made a appointment with 4 Wheeler's Supply. There price was about
half what A-1 Differential quoted.
William Mish wrote:
>
> You Betcha.. Take it to 4 Wheeler's Supply. They do good work and pricing is
> good. They're off 36th st. and Washington Their phone is 273-7195 Be Good.
> Later.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
> To: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
> Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:58 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Differentials
>
> >
> > >Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
> > >carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
> > >Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Leonard K. Pennock
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
> > North Phoenix. 587-1863
> >
> > Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
> > my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
> > over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
> > for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
> > ARB's. Very happy with his work.
> >
> > Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
> > as prices may vary a little.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Uncle Mike
> > Phoenix, AZ.
> >
> >
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1172 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:07am
Subject: Re: Speedometer
I doubt your xfer case has 4.11 gear reduction in it. Maybe your axles are 4.11? Anyway, you should take transmission 5th gear * tcase high range * axle gears * tire size, or at least some variant on that. Your tcase whould have 1:1 in high range, and your 5th gear is either 1:1 or <1:1 for overdrive.
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(axle gears 4.11) x (tcase gears 1.0) * (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
Maybe the above is correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
BTW, the MPH reading from the GPS will have slight error because of the error factored into the GPS systems that are not military grade equipment. You'll note that the GPS receivers sometimes show a positive MPH while you're sitting at a stoplight. This is because the GPS system is in essence moving your location a few hundred feet. As a result your receiver thinks you are moving. This can cause the GPS output to have slightly erroneous results.
Just some geektech
Jeff
<000d01beb3be$5cf0ddc0$adac7cc-@nnote> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1170
> I was out driving with a friend who had a gps the other day and the difference between the speedometer reading and the gps was quite large. I really didn't know my Jeep could go that fast. So, I found a mathmatical way to get your correct speed, within 2% it is supposed to be.
>
> (rpm) x (actuall tire size) divided by (xfer case gear ratio) x (gear ratio) x (336) = mph
>
> My tires are by tape measure, 30.1 inches. My transfer case (the 231) is 4.11 gear ratio. My 5th gear ratio is .85
> So....
>
> (2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
> (xfer case 4.11) x (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
> 75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
>
> At around 3200 rpm my speedometer would show about 72 mph, I am actually travelling 82 mph!
>
> Well, just fyi
>
> Nick
>
>
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1173 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:42am
Subject: Posting messages that auto-wrap?
Is there any way I can post messages in eGroups so that I
don't have to manually insert a <RETURN> at the end of every
line. I'm surprised the posting textarea doesn't isn't
configured for that.
Just curious.
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1174 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:44am
Subject: Speedo repost w/ wrapped text
I doubt your xfer case has 4.11 gear reduction in it. Maybe your axles are
4.11? Anyway, you should take transmission 5th gear * tcase high range
* axle gears * tire size, or at least some variant on that. Your tcase
whould have 1:1 in high range, and your 5th gear is either 1:1 or <1:1
for overdrive.
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(axle gears 4.11) x (tcase gears 1.0) * (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
Maybe the above is correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
BTW, the MPH reading from the GPS will have slight error because of the
error factored into the GPS systems that are not military grade equipment.
You'll note that the GPS receivers sometimes show a positive MPH while
you're sitting at a stoplight. This is because the GPS system is in essence
moving your location a few hundred feet. As a result your receiver thinks
you are moving. This can cause the GPS output to have slightly erroneous
results.
Just some geektech
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1175 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:44am
Subject: Re: Speedometer
If your speedometer is not working, what makes you think your tachometer is?
Joe
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1151 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 8, 1999 11:06pm
Subject: more Jamboree
Five more photos from the Jamboree. These were converted from digital video
from a Sony TR315 to JPEG. They are in their own album just to keep them
straight.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=255975
---------------------------
Jon Loveless
602-816-6240
jloveless@e...
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1152 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 9:44am
Subject: Re: Canyon De chelly
I have a freind who's wife is Navaho Indian and has family on the reservation.
I asked Him if he could talk to his wife to see if she knew antone in that area.
I will find out more in the next week or so..
This would be a really cool trip to take.
Thanks to william for the great pix..
Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
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1153 From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:31am
Subject: Re: Canyon De Chelly
I am sorry I made a mistake Thanks to John Loveless for the great pix of
The Jeep Jamboree in Canyon De Chelly ..
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1154 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 7:25pm
Subject: Gear Ratio - Tire Chart
I'd been looking for this chart and finally found it. Thought I'd pass it on to the group.
http://www.thuntek.net/4wd/gear_tire_chart.htm
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1155 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 9:54pm
Subject: Moab bound
Short notice I know, but the weekend of June 19/20 I will be wheeling in Moab. My plan is to leave Friday 18th noonish and return Monday 21st bright and early in the morning. No plans on exactly which trails will be run though.
Some camping, some wheeling ... should be fun. Anyone here is welcome to come along. I will be in my '98 XJ (it can't seem to get enough of Moab). My buddy will be along with his '90 XJ.
Come on, you know you want to come :)
Contact me here or by email for more info
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1156 From: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:15pm
Subject: Differentials
Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
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1157 From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 10:58pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
>Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
>carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
>Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
>
>--
>Leonard K. Pennock
Greetings,
I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
North Phoenix. 587-1863
Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
ARB's. Very happy with his work.
Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
as prices may vary a little.
Hope this helps,
Uncle Mike
Phoenix, AZ.
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1158 From: William Mish <yldkat@m...>
Date: Wed Jun 9, 1999 11:58pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
You Betcha.. Take it to 4 Wheeler's Supply. They do good work and pricing is
good. They're off 36th st. and Washington Their phone is 273-7195 Be Good.
Later.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
To: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Differentials
>
> >Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
> >carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
> >Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
> >
> >--
> >Leonard K. Pennock
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
> North Phoenix. 587-1863
>
> Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
> my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
> over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
> for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
> ARB's. Very happy with his work.
>
> Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
> as prices may vary a little.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Uncle Mike
> Phoenix, AZ.
>
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1159 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 5:44am
Subject: Re: Differentials
4 Wheeler Supply on E. Washington. Very good work and very experienced.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@home.com>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:17 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Differentials
Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
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1160 From: <rnealh@y...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 7:52am
Subject: Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
How long do you think this run will take? I want to go but have other plans late Sat afternoon. Looks like its only about a 15 mile trail.
Rick
<001a01beafd3$ee8052a0$463fa4c-@skruiz> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1122
> Dave,
>
> I figure the main group will leave N. Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy around 8:15 on Saturday morning and should be at Rattlesnake Cove around 8:45. From there it's a short drive to the turnoff where we can all air down. See you there.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> ok sounds good.. What time ???? we really have not worked on any time frames yet..
> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:49 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> The left hand turn off I want to take is now on the tar. It is between Rattlesnake Cove and the flats. That's why I suggested you backtracking up to Rattlesnake Cove to meet up with us. The area down by the flats is pretty crowded on a Saturday morning so I'd rather use this bypass that runs about halfway up the hillside parallel to the lake and leads to the northernmost coves.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oboyle@m... <oboyle@m...>
> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> Scott,
> you have set up a good plan. The last time I was at bartlett they had paved the road all the way down to
> the turnoff wher you can head to the flats. is this the place to meet? where the pavment ends..
>
> Also anyone who wants to head up on the 11th is more than welcome to join us. Friday afternoon at carefree rd. and cavecreek rd. on the southeast corner. We will have to work on a time later on this week.. deffinately before sundown.. If any one needs directions to get there just e-mail me and i'll give em up.. I am working on a quick little map I'll try to attach it to the next note i send out.
>
> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:27 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett Lake(long)
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I've got some updates on the Trail 42 run set for Saturday, June 12th.
>
> Due to the afternoon heat I propose meeting at 8:00 AM in the parking lot near the grocery store just southwest of Carefree Hwy and Scottsdale Rd. I think it would be easier for those unfamiliar with the area to meet at this location.
>
> At Bartlett Lake we will be starting the trail by going through the main recreation area and will need to pay a parking fee of $4 per vehicle if we stop to use any facilities. I have contacted the Cave Creek Ranger District of Tonto NF and as long as we are only passing through we will not be required to pay the fee.
>
> I will not be camping at the lake, so far I've heard that Dave will be camping at Bartlett with his XJ on Friday night. I'm sure he'd be more than happy to have company. I propose that any one camping out at Bartlett be at Rattlesnake Cove at 8:30 and be on channel 4. That way they will be able to join up with us as we pass. From there it is only a few minutes until the road becomes gravel and we turnrnoff. At this point we can air down and disconnect our swaybars.
>
> I prefer to take a route that runs along the hill thru a narrow sandy wash north of The Flats and leads to a few coves on the northwest side of the lake. This way we can avoid the crowds parked all over the place down at The Flats. At this point we will follow near the shore a short distance and then begin our journey on FR 42. For those that have a copy of the Arizona Atlas & Gazeteer: Topo Maps Of The Entire State, look on page 50 in the lower left corner and you'll find the trail. (If you'd like a copy they can be found at Wide World of Maps. I'd recommend getting one. Even though many of the trails we run are not well marked on it, I find it to be a valuable resource for getting a sense of where I'm going nontheless.)
>
> Hope to see as many of you as possible,
>
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1161 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:17am
Subject: Re: Differentials
LockRites are nice lockers. Had one in my Geo Tracker. Really improved its
offroad performance.
I have a TracLoc in the ZJ's rear axle and it will stay until the entire axle
gets replaced. Actually, I haven't had a choice! There aren't many options for
the D35C that I would even consider! The TracLoc actually works quite well
(the 105 in. wheelbase helps) and at 80k miles it is still as tight as it was
when it was installed by the factory.
New diff carriers cost $50-$75, but you might be able to get one for a salvage
yard for less.
LockRites are relatively easy to install and so are diff carriers so the cost
shouldn't be too high.
Have fun!
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1162 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:24am
Subject: camping at bartlett
It looks like I am not going to be able to camp out this weekend. I am on the
duty pager (7x24 coverage) for the upcoming week. Ain't work fun!
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1163 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:53am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I am getting ready to change my gearing. I have done some research and have come to the the conclusion that "Toys By Troy Metal Fabrications" 3650 W. Sweetwater Phoenix 697-8753, is the best bet. I do most of my own work on my vehicles. I installed my Terraflex lift myself and have always tinkered with cars. This is one of the few jobs I would not do myself, and I would not consider price in my decision. Also TBT fabricates almost anything for your Jeep and does an excellant job.
Also if you have any intentions of installing lockers this would be the time to do it.
But thats only my opinion. Good luck.
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1164 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 9:14am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I have wanted the phone # and address for Toys by Troy. Thanks! I saw the work
they did on Dave Hickman's TJ (AZLR4WDC) last year at the ASA4WDC Jamboree and
was quite impressed by the quality. I thought they were only a fabrication
shop.
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1165 From: James Junkin <jjunkin@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 1:12pm
Subject: Re: Moab bound
You got my attention! I'm always up for Moab. Tell me more!
James
-----Original Message-----
From: jeffm@desertwave.com <jeffm@desertwave.com>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:47 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Moab bound
Short notice I know, but the weekend of June 19/20 I will be wheeling in Moab. My plan is to leave Friday 18th noonish and return Monday 21st bright and early in the morning. No plans on exactly which trails will be run though.
Some camping, some wheeling ... should be fun. Anyone here is welcome to come along. I will be in my '98 XJ (it can't seem to get enough of Moab). My buddy will be along with his '90 XJ.
Come on, you know you want to come :)
Contact me here or by email for more info
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1166 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 5:58pm
Subject: Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
The run should only take until the early afternoon. I plan on sticking
around and exploring some of the other trails in the area if anyone wants to
join me.
Scott Kruize
-----Original Message-----
From: rnealh@y... <rnealh@y...>
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 7:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bart
>How long do you think this run will take? I want to go but have other
plans late Sat afternoon. Looks like its only about a 15 mile trail.
>
>Rick
>
> <001a01beafd3$ee8052a0$463fa4c-@skruiz> wrote:
>Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1122
>> Dave,
>>
>> I figure the main group will leave N. Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy
around 8:15 on Saturday morning and should be at Rattlesnake Cove around
8:45. From there it's a short drive to the turnoff where we can all air
down. See you there.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David O'Boyle <doboyle@s...>
>> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Thursday, June 03, 1999 11:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> ok sounds good.. What time ???? we really have not worked on any time
frames yet..
>> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
>> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 2:49 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> The left hand turn off I want to take is now on the tar. It is between
Rattlesnake Cove and the flats. That's why I suggested you backtracking up
to Rattlesnake Cove to meet up with us. The area down by the flats is pretty
crowded on a Saturday morning so I'd rather use this bypass that runs about
halfway up the hillside parallel to the lake and leads to the northernmost
coves.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oboyle@m... <oboyle@m...>
>> To: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>; az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 1:18 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 >From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> Scott,
>> you have set up a good plan. The last time I was at bartlett they had
paved the road all the way down to
>> the turnoff wher you can head to the flats. is this the place to meet?
where the pavment ends..
>>
>> Also anyone who wants to head up on the 11th is more than welcome to join
us. Friday afternoon at carefree rd. and cavecreek rd. on the southeast
corner. We will have to work on a time later on this week.. deffinately
before sundown.. If any one needs directions to get there just e-mail me and
i'll give em up.. I am working on a quick little map I'll try to attach it
to the next note i send out.
>>
>> Dave (azxj) 93xj sport
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
>> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 01, 1999 10:27 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Trail 42 From Horseshoe Lake to Bartlett
Lake(long)
>>
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> I've got some updates on the Trail 42 run set for Saturday, June
12th.
>>
>> Due to the afternoon heat I propose meeting at 8:00 AM in the parking
lot near the grocery store just southwest of Carefree Hwy and Scottsdale Rd.
I think it would be easier for those unfamiliar with the area to meet at
this location.
>>
>> At Bartlett Lake we will be starting the trail by going through the
main recreation area and will need to pay a parking fee of $4 per vehicle if
we stop to use any facilities. I have contacted the Cave Creek Ranger
District of Tonto NF and as long as we are only passing through we will not
be required to pay the fee.
>>
>> I will not be camping at the lake, so far I've heard that Dave will
be camping at Bartlett with his XJ on Friday night. I'm sure he'd be more
than happy to have company. I propose that any one camping out at Bartlett
be at Rattlesnake Cove at 8:30 and be on channel 4. That way they will be
able to join up with us as we pass. From there it is only a few minutes
until the road becomes gravel and we turnrnoff. At this point we can air
down and disconnect our swaybars.
>>
>> I prefer to take a route that runs along the hill thru a narrow sandy
wash north of The Flats and leads to a few coves on the northwest side of
the lake. This way we can avoid the crowds parked all over the place down
at The Flats. At this point we will follow near the shore a short distance
and then begin our journey on FR 42. For those that have a copy of the
Arizona Atlas & Gazeteer: Topo Maps Of The Entire State, look on page 50 in
the lower left corner and you'll find the trail. (If you'd like a copy they
can be found at Wide World of Maps. I'd recommend getting one. Even though
many of the trails we run are not well marked on it, I find it to be a
valuable resource for getting a sense of where I'm going nontheless.)
>>
>> Hope to see as many of you as possible,
>>
>> Scott Kruize
>> OSMTJ@p...
>>
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1167 From: <jimsmith@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 6:07pm
Subject: Re: Differentials
<375fe3d7.3f7d974-@e...> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1164
> I have wanted the phone # and address for Toys by Troy. Thanks! I saw the work
> they did on Dave Hickman's TJ (AZLR4WDC) last year at the ASA4WDC Jamboree and
> was quite impressed by the quality. I thought they were only a fabrication
> shop.
>
> Linda
>
I just had some work done by Troy and you have got to see the rock crawler he is building for Dave now. It is something to behold.
Chili Dawg
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1168 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:11pm
Subject: 42
For trail 42, Saturday morning, what are the final decided plans? See ya there, oh and the mother is gonna ride along for this one!
Nick
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1169 From: Scott Kruize <OSMTJ@p...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:35pm
Subject: Trail 42 - Bartlett Lake to Horseshoe Lake
I'd just like to review the plans for Saturday with everyone.
The main group will meet in the grocery store parking lot southwest of N
Scottsdale Rd and Carefree Hwy at 8:00 AM. We will meet up with Dave and any
others camping out at Rattlesnake Cove between 8:30-8:45. From there it's
only a few minutes to the turnoff where we will air down.
The trail will end up near Horseshoe Lake. We should finish up in the early
afternoon.
Please be sure to gas up your Jeep before we meet. There is a gas station
off Carefree Hwy between I-17 and the meeting place. For those coming up
Scottsdale Rd there are not any stations that I remember north of Frank
Lloyd Wright (Bell Rd).
It sounds like we've got between 12-16 Jeeps in the group. We'll be using
channel 4 as usual.
See you all soon :)
Scott Kruize
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1170 From: nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Jun 10, 1999 8:54pm
Subject: Speedometer
I was out driving with a friend who had a gps the other day and the difference between the speedometer reading and the gps was quite large. I really didn't know my Jeep could go that fast. So, I found a mathmatical way to get your correct speed, within 2% it is supposed to be.
(rpm) x (actuall tire size) divided by (xfer case gear ratio) x (gear ratio) x (336) = mph
My tires are by tape measure, 30.1 inches. My transfer case (the 231) is 4.11 gear ratio. My 5th gear ratio is .85
So....
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(xfer case 4.11) x (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
At around 3200 rpm my speedometer would show about 72 mph, I am actually travelling 82 mph!
Well, just fyi
Nick
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1171 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 6:54am
Subject: Re: Differentials
I made a appointment with 4 Wheeler's Supply. There price was about
half what A-1 Differential quoted.
William Mish wrote:
>
> You Betcha.. Take it to 4 Wheeler's Supply. They do good work and pricing is
> good. They're off 36th st. and Washington Their phone is 273-7195 Be Good.
> Later.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Connor <mikec@p...>
> To: Leonard Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
> Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 10:58 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Differentials
>
> >
> > >Can anyone recommend someone in the Phoenix area to do a differential
> > >carrier replacement. I'm converting my Dana 44 from a tracloc to a
> > >Lockrite so I have to put a standard carrier back in.
> > >
> > >--
> > >Leonard K. Pennock
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I can recommend A-1 Differential, 2231 W Adobe Dr.
> > North Phoenix. 587-1863
> >
> > Steve has done differential and gearset changes on both
> > my truck (77 F250 4WD) and my Jeeps (75 CJ5, 47 CJ2A)
> > over the years. He's done Detroits and Power-Loks
> > for me, and I know he's experienced with Lockright's and
> > ARB's. Very happy with his work.
> >
> > Most of the 4WD shops will do it for you as well. Shop around,
> > as prices may vary a little.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > Uncle Mike
> > Phoenix, AZ.
> >
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1172 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:07am
Subject: Re: Speedometer
I doubt your xfer case has 4.11 gear reduction in it. Maybe your axles are 4.11? Anyway, you should take transmission 5th gear * tcase high range * axle gears * tire size, or at least some variant on that. Your tcase whould have 1:1 in high range, and your 5th gear is either 1:1 or <1:1 for overdrive.
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(axle gears 4.11) x (tcase gears 1.0) * (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
Maybe the above is correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
BTW, the MPH reading from the GPS will have slight error because of the error factored into the GPS systems that are not military grade equipment. You'll note that the GPS receivers sometimes show a positive MPH while you're sitting at a stoplight. This is because the GPS system is in essence moving your location a few hundred feet. As a result your receiver thinks you are moving. This can cause the GPS output to have slightly erroneous results.
Just some geektech
Jeff
<000d01beb3be$5cf0ddc0$adac7cc-@nnote> wrote:
Original Article: http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=1170
> I was out driving with a friend who had a gps the other day and the difference between the speedometer reading and the gps was quite large. I really didn't know my Jeep could go that fast. So, I found a mathmatical way to get your correct speed, within 2% it is supposed to be.
>
> (rpm) x (actuall tire size) divided by (xfer case gear ratio) x (gear ratio) x (336) = mph
>
> My tires are by tape measure, 30.1 inches. My transfer case (the 231) is 4.11 gear ratio. My 5th gear ratio is .85
> So....
>
> (2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
> (xfer case 4.11) x (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
> 75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
>
> At around 3200 rpm my speedometer would show about 72 mph, I am actually travelling 82 mph!
>
> Well, just fyi
>
> Nick
>
>
>
> nnote@n... (Main Address)
> nnote@j...
> icq# 16440647
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1173 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:42am
Subject: Posting messages that auto-wrap?
Is there any way I can post messages in eGroups so that I
don't have to manually insert a <RETURN> at the end of every
line. I'm surprised the posting textarea doesn't isn't
configured for that.
Just curious.
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1174 From: <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:44am
Subject: Speedo repost w/ wrapped text
I doubt your xfer case has 4.11 gear reduction in it. Maybe your axles are
4.11? Anyway, you should take transmission 5th gear * tcase high range
* axle gears * tire size, or at least some variant on that. Your tcase
whould have 1:1 in high range, and your 5th gear is either 1:1 or <1:1
for overdrive.
(2500 rpm) x (tire size 30.1) = 75250
(axle gears 4.11) x (tcase gears 1.0) * (5th gear .85) x (336) = 1173.816
75250/1173.816 = 64.1 mph!
Maybe the above is correct?
Correct me if I'm wrong ...
BTW, the MPH reading from the GPS will have slight error because of the
error factored into the GPS systems that are not military grade equipment.
You'll note that the GPS receivers sometimes show a positive MPH while
you're sitting at a stoplight. This is because the GPS system is in essence
moving your location a few hundred feet. As a result your receiver thinks
you are moving. This can cause the GPS output to have slightly erroneous
results.
Just some geektech
Jeff
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1175 From: <jokoolchav@a...>
Date: Fri Jun 11, 1999 8:44am
Subject: Re: Speedometer
If your speedometer is not working, what makes you think your tachometer is?
Joe
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