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56052 From: juggox <juggox@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:00pm
Subject: CD Changer
Does anyone out there have a Mopar 6 disc changer? If so, could you
give me the dimesions (HxWxL) of the unit? I just got a CD changer
console that fits in the back right side panel of the XJ. It fits
between the wheel well and the lift gate and holds the changer and
has a storage area below it. The problem is that I have a 10 disc
changer and it doesn't fit into the new console.
If the dimensions of the 6 disc changer are right, would anyone be
intereseted in trading for a 10 disc?
TIA for the help,
Ben
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56053 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:11pm
Subject: Re: --------------------Master Cylinder or Slave CyLindEr------------??
I'd say it's probablly the master.
Either the diafram or the seals inside are bad and fluid is passing by them.
Not allowing the pressure to stay aginst the throwout bering.
Therefore gradgually releasing the pressure on the clutch..
There also may be a proble with the internal seal folding over inside the
master. Mine does this everyonce in a while. the seal or O ring allows fluid
past it and this reduces the holding pressure.
Hope this helps
DAve
>From: Michael K <kmichael02@y...>
>To: Dave oboyle <arizonaxj@h...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] --------------------Master Cylinder or Slave
>CyLindEr------------??
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>no no and no.........no leak, no noise, fluid is full,
>no noticable leak, and yes i've checked and climbed
>all over it...that's my problem not sure where to
>begin...yes, my synchro's are a bit goofed but no more
>than usual, besides if the clutch's response is what's
>goofed up...not the tranny at this point...sometimes
>the clutch grabbs so quick i almost stall or have to
>gas the hell out of it... other times it acts normal,
>as though nothing is wrong...??? help?
>any other ideas?
>thanks for the reply dave, this group is a very good
>thing.
>
>mike
>--- Dave oboyle <arizonaxj@h...> wrote:
> > First check your master reseviour. Make sure it is
> > full and stays full. it
> > is drains slowly after a few days you have a leak in
> > the system.
> >
> > If it is the slave you cannot hold it in gear at a
> > stop, it will lunge
> > forward after pressing in the clutch pedal. Or you
> > cannot change gears while
> > driving. If it is hard to change gears while driving
> > there may be a problem
> > with the transmission it's self. Try not using the
> > clutch and easing it into
> > gear while driving.. just match rpm to speed and it
> > will go right into
> > gear..
> >
> > You'd normally see fluid loss if it is the slave
> > cylinder. The seals are the
> > first to go if your lucky. If not your replacing the
> > entire clutch setup
> > because fluid contaminated your clutch plate.
> > If it is the slave master then you may be getting
> > flid on the fire wall in
> > the drivers compartment. look under or behind your
> > carpet underneath the
> > dash where the carpet and the fire wall meet.
> >
> > If your throw out bering is going bad you'll either
> > hear metal scraping or a
> > high pitched squeeling sound...
> >
> > Hope this helps. I have replaced 4 slave cylinders
> > in my XJ in the past 3
> > years and all of these symptoms have happend to
> > me...
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...>
> > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] --------------------Master
> > Cylinder or Slave
> > >CyLindEr------------??
> > >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:29:35 -0000
> > >
> > >Ok everyone, I need your help and experience
> > regarding an issue i'm
> > >having. How do i know weather it's my slave that's
> > going bad or my
> > >master. Is there any way to determine this? There
> > is no leakage
> > >that i can find. Is there a good rule of thumb to
> > use or any kind of
> > >device that'll help me isolate this(that is really
> > inexpensive)
> > >
> > >92 yj 4.o
> > >
> > >many thanks
> > >
> > >mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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56054 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:30pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
Mine was broken into last wednesday and thought they took my
dirt filled sony cd player and my B&M shifter knob all they did was pop the
lock on my vent window.. 37.50 for a new lock at Earnhearts.
I have a kill switch wired to the ignition so it can't be stolen.
I'd suggest just leaving the doors unlocked and not leave anything worth
stealing in the Vehicle.. They didn't take over 1500 dollars worth of tools
that I had left in the vehicle so I consider my self lucky.. They can have
the Cd eating sony and that damn shifter knob for all I care. as long as I
still have my XJ and my tools I can deal with it... :)
Take care
Dave
>From: "Joey Martinez" <joey@w...>
>To: "jeepclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] theft deterent
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:10:27 -0700
>
>hey all I just noticed that some creep tried to get into my jeep by way of
>driver side strip molding via screwdriver, can anyone recommend good theft
>deterent. I don't know if its new or old but it bothers the heck out of me.
>I was thinking a removable steering wheel? alarm? big big dog?
>
>
>
>BTW
>i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
>
>94xjoe
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56055 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:44pm
Subject: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings, misunderstandings and
apologies recently.
It will be a long, hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran, sooner or later you
will become offended, or offend someone else by what you type. (Kinda silly,
but true.)
The only remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with each
other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching parties, weekly
lunch meetings, etc.
You are less likely to unintentionally offend or be offended by people you
meet with regularly.
When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people they don't
know, misunderstandings will abound.
Good luck!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
56056 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:56pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
Bill,
Nicely put!!
I noticed the same thing.
Shawn Passmore
jeepcj5nut
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: "1" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings, misunderstandings and
> apologies recently.
> It will be a long, hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
>
> Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran, sooner or later
you
> will become offended, or offend someone else by what you type. (Kinda
silly,
> but true.)
> The only remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
each
> other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching parties, weekly
> lunch meetings, etc.
> You are less likely to unintentionally offend or be offended by people you
> meet with regularly.
>
> When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people they don't
> know, misunderstandings will abound.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
56057 From: Allen Jakob <allenjakob@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:50pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)
Very nice Shawn!!
Thanks for sharing. I missed it (was working)
Allen Jakob
97 TJ Sahara
--- Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...> wrote:
> Hey guys/gals,
> I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse
> this evening, and this is what I came up with:
>
>
>
> I took the pic with my digital camera through my
> welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it
> was pretty cool.
>
> Shawn
>
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56058 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:32am
Subject: RE: yahoo groups
Tom,
I had the same problem. All you need to do is go to your setup page on yahoogroups and add the email address (even if it is already there) that you want your email to go to. It will send out a confirmation to that account, reply to it just as you would if you were adding a new email address and then everything should work fine.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: TRobertsRN [mailto:TRobertsRN@email.msn.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:50 PM
To: FSJ-List@yahoogroups.com; AzVJC_OT@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_vgc@yahoogroups.com; AZ_FSJA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yahoo groups
I am still able to send messages to all my yahoo groups, (they appear at the sites) but not receiving individual emails as my account is set up.
HELP!!
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
Gilbert, Arizona
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56059 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:50am
Subject: RE: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
It's all good.
And please re-read before you hit that send button. I can't tell you how
many times I hit the delete key in responding to messages because I know
someone will get butt hurt and end up selling their Jeep because of how
they interpret what I post.
Like I said "it's all good"... Well until someone looses an eye that is.
See you on the trail. :D
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
> To: 1
> Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
>
>
> I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings,
> misunderstandings and apologies recently. It will be a long,
> hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
>
> Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran,
> sooner or later you will become offended, or offend someone
> else by what you type. (Kinda silly, but true.) The only
> remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
> each other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching
> parties, weekly lunch meetings, etc. You are less likely to
> unintentionally offend or be offended by people you meet with
> regularly.
>
> When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people
> they don't know, misunderstandings will abound.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
56060 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:07am
Subject: INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
56061 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:32am
Subject: Re: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
That work good also what I do is when I am butt hurt and mad I just write it
and then save it (not send it) then the next day I read it and usually laugh
at my being stupid.
Bill that is the nicest thing I ever saw you write. :-)
Great job.
Joe Kearney
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> It's all good.
>
> And please re-read before you hit that send button. I can't tell you how
> many times I hit the delete key in responding to messages because I know
> someone will get butt hurt and end up selling their Jeep because of how
> they interpret what I post.
>
> Like I said "it's all good"... Well until someone looses an eye that is.
> See you on the trail. :D
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
> > To: 1
> > Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> >
> >
> > I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings,
> > misunderstandings and apologies recently. It will be a long,
> > hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
> >
> > Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran,
> > sooner or later you will become offended, or offend someone
> > else by what you type. (Kinda silly, but true.) The only
> > remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
> > each other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching
> > parties, weekly lunch meetings, etc. You are less likely to
> > unintentionally offend or be offended by people you meet with
> > regularly.
> >
> > When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people
> > they don't know, misunderstandings will abound.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
56062 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:41am
Subject: RE: INsurance agents..........
George Cromer
Country Companies Insurance
(602) 439-8084
No problem with even the 37's and 6 inch lift. George is a great guy to
work with. I've been with Country Companies for about 3 years.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
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56063 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:41am
Subject: OT forum, computer parts for sale
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT/message/153
Mike Baney
56064 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:49am
Subject: RE: INsurance agents..........
I just changed from Allstate to them. They are great. They not only saved me
about $200 a year but I also got 10 time the coverage I had with Allstate.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:42 AM
To: 'kmichael02'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
George Cromer
Country Companies Insurance
(602) 439-8084
No problem with even the 37's and 6 inch lift. George is a great guy to
work with. I've been with Country Companies for about 3 years.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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56065 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:44am
Subject: Oil Change
Something FUNNY for a change................ no letters, polls or "green
notices"!!!!
This is great!!! My daughter-in-law sent, but then again it's
understandable as she "has one of these oil monsters" too! Do any of you
"know" this guy??? <grin> <giggle>
Sandee
Oil Change instructions for Women:
1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches
3000 miles since the
last oil change.
2) Drink a cup of coffee.
3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a
properly
maintained
vehicle.
Money spent:
Oil Change $20.00
Coffee $1.00
Total $21.00.
Oil Change instructions for Men:
1) Go to auto parts store and write a check for
$40.00 for oil,
filter,
kitty litter, hand
cleaner and a scented tree
2) Discover that the used oil container is full.
Instead of taking it
back to O'Reilly to recycle, dump in hole in back
yard.
3) Open a beer and drink it.
4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack
stands.
5) Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
7) Place drain pan under engine.
8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
10) Unscrew drain plug.
11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: get hot oil on
you in process.
12) Clean up mess.
13) Have another beer while watching oil drain
14) Look for oil filter wrench.
15) Give up; poke oil filter with screwdriver and
twist off.
16) Beer.
17) Buddy shows up; finish case of beer with him.
Finish oil change
tomorrow.
18) Next day, drag pan full of old oil out from
underneath car.
19) Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18.
20) Beer. No, drank it all yesterday.
21) Walk to 7-11; buy beer.
22) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a
thin coat of oil to
gasket surface.
23) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
24) Remember drain plug from step 11.
25) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
26) Discover that the used oil is buried in a hole in
the back yard,
along
with drain plug.
27) Drink beer.
28) Uncover hole and sift for drain plug.
29) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on
the floor.
30) Drink beer.
31) Slip with wrench tightening drain plug and bang
knuckles on frame.
32) Bang head on floorboards in reaction to step 31.
33) Begin cussing fit and throw wrench.
34) Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit
Miss December
1992 in
the left boob.
35) Beer.
36) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil.
37) Lower car from jack stands and accidentally crush
one.
38) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh
oil spilled
during
step 23.
39) Beer.
40) Test drive car.
41) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the
influence.
42) Car gets impounded.
43) Make bail.
44) Get car from impound yard.
Money spent:
Parts $40.00
DUI $2500.00
Impound fee $75.00
Bail $1500.00
Beer $25.00
Total $4140.00 --- But you know the job was done
right.
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56066 From: rolexja <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:02am
Subject: Questions about my ZJ
My ZJ has a full time all-wheel drive transfer case (NP249) so I
wonder: when in "normal" mode does the engine power go 50-50
to both axles, or does it do some kind of 60-40, 70-30, split?
The stock tires on it were P225/70/15, since I know the "P"
on the tire stands for passenger, or maybe "Problems off
road", I bought a used set of LT235/75/15. The problem I'm
having with
these tires is that they rub against the lower control arms when I
turn the steering wheel all the way to either side.
As far as I can tell, my set of "off-road" wheels have the
exact same dimensions and offset as the factory "gold
honeycomb" wheels I have with street tires 15x7 with a 5.5
offset.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Jose
off-road@c...
56067 From: azvjc <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:05am
Subject: Bouncing Members.... Was: HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE
I have noticed that several members in the past week or so have been
complaining that they're not recieving e-mail from their Yahoo Groups.
Apparently there were some problems and alot of people's e-
mails "Bounced" back to Yahoo Groups. When this happens repeatedly,
Yahoo places the member on the "Bouncing" list and stops sending them
e-mail.
If they e-mail the group, this resets their status and they should
start recieving e-mails again. If this happens to you in the future,
just send an e-mail to the group. If that doesn't work, contact me.
If you know someone that has been complaining (off group) that their
not getting e-mail from the group, could you pass this message on to
them.
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> have not received any e-mails to day wat up folks
>
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Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:09am
Subject: world cup virus
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56069 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:42am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
I personally would prefer one that protects the fill plug. One time, I
evidently
dropped off a ledge or something like that and caught the fill plug on a rock.
I didn't really leak fluid (at least not when sitting level) but the diff cover
was
ruined because the fill hole was distorted and could not be pounded back.
-Roger
"Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com" wrote:
> What do you guys think of these protectors?
>
> http://www.ronscustomshop.bigstep.com/generic21.html
>
> My brother riped both front and rear of my Jeep during the Ramsey Challenge.
>
> Jesus Chio
> Home account
> Chief Editor : www.alloffroad.com
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
> Para: 'hiett710' <hiett710@y...>; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 06:02 p.m.
> Asunto: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
>
> >Both places, in my opinion. In the rear, one is more likely to peel
> >open the cover when sliding the diff over a rock. In the front, one is
> >more likely to hit something head on and damage the ring gear. Of
> >course, changing the direction of the vehicle causes these same two
> >issues to occur at opposite ends of the vehicle.
> >
> >Over time, I've peeled more rear covers than I've dented front ones.
> >
> >Stu Olson
> >www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: hiett710 [mailto:hiett710@y...]
> >Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:19 PM
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
> >
> >Are we done yet?
> >
> >Where is the diff guard needed the most? Front or rear?
> >If I didn't mispell anything maybe I'll get an answer :)
> >.H ekiM JT wolley 02
> >
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@c...> wrote:
> >> Chris/Mike/Stu,
> >> What the hell is this thread all about. Mike, the
> >guy
> >> misunderstood what you were trying to say on the pricing and you
> >call
> >> him an idiot and question his ability to read and understand simple
> >> english - lighten up fella this is a group thing and we are not all
> >> as quick to the punch as you.
> >> Stu, basically I am floored by this. You openly critique
> >anothers
> >> ability to understand yet you can't even spell buy correctly in
> >your
> >> post "Hell, you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock
> >> washers for that price.". Like any idiot I guess....
> >> Josh Wooten
> >> 99 TJ -Homer-
> >> --- In az_vjc@y..., "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...> wrote:
> >> > Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of
> >> people
> >> > openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot
> >of
> >> our
> >> > members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase
> >we
> >> want to
> >> > learn and enjoy offroading with others.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >> > To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@Y...>
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Michael,
> >> > >
> >> > > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
> >> post.
> >> > > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
> >> would
> >> > > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for
> >$10.
> >> Hell,
> >> > > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers
> >for
> >> that
> >> > > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
> >> knock
> >> > > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
> >> > >
> >> > > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
> >> > >
> >> > > Stu
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Stu Olson
> >> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> >> > > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> >> > > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> >> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > >
> >> > > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> >> > > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would
> >be
> >> $15 -
> >> > > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
> >> price
> >> > > less
> >> > > the discount? Whatever dude..
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> >> > > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@Y...>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you
> >cant
> >> read
> >> > > but
> >> > > the
> >> > > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is
> >about
> >> > > 10.00-15.00
> >> > > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
> >> that.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> >> > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>; "Michael Wixom"
> >> > > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> >> > > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> >> > > > > sign me up.
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor
> >diff
> >> guards,
> >> > > we
> >> > > > need
> >> > > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00
> >> per unit.
> >> > > > Check
> >> > > > > > his website below for info.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> >> > > > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Mike,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
> >> buy. I
> >> > > have 3
> >> > > > so
> >> > > > > > far.
> >> > > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> >> > > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> >> > > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> >> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> >> > > > > > 480-221-9298
> >> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> >> > > > > > To: Michael Wixom
> >> > > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Mike,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
> >> guards
> >> > > too.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I will let you know.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> >> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> >> > > > > > 480-221-9298
> >> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jaylalib
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> >> > > > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group
> >buy
> >> > > together
> >> > > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> >> > > interested.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Jason
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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56070 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:45am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
My preference would be the rear first because I'm pretty good at keeping
track of what's coming up in front of my front diff (in fact I normally try to
avoid hitting my front diff on anything) whereas if I have to stop and back
up I usually have no clue what's right behind my rear diff. I've dented a
rear diff cover or two but never a front diff cover.
-Roger
hiett710 wrote:
> Are we done yet?
>
> Where is the diff guard needed the most? Front or rear?
> If I didn't mispell anything maybe I'll get an answer :)
> .H ekiM JT wolley 02
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@c...> wrote:
> > Chris/Mike/Stu,
> > What the hell is this thread all about. Mike, the
> guy
> > misunderstood what you were trying to say on the pricing and you
> call
> > him an idiot and question his ability to read and understand simple
> > english - lighten up fella this is a group thing and we are not all
> > as quick to the punch as you.
> > Stu, basically I am floored by this. You openly critique
> anothers
> > ability to understand yet you can't even spell buy correctly in
> your
> > post "Hell, you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock
> > washers for that price.". Like any idiot I guess....
> > Josh Wooten
> > 99 TJ -Homer-
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...> wrote:
> > > Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of
> > people
> > > openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot
> of
> > our
> > > members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase
> we
> > want to
> > > learn and enjoy offroading with others.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> > > To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@Y...>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Michael,
> > > >
> > > > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
> > post.
> > > > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
> > would
> > > > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for
> $10.
> > Hell,
> > > > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers
> for
> > that
> > > > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
> > knock
> > > > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
> > > >
> > > > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
> > > >
> > > > Stu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> > > > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> > > > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > >
> > > > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> > > > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would
> be
> > $15 -
> > > > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
> > price
> > > > less
> > > > the discount? Whatever dude..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > > > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@Y...>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you
> cant
> > read
> > > > but
> > > > the
> > > > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is
> about
> > > > 10.00-15.00
> > > > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
> > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>; "Michael Wixom"
> > > > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> > > > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> > > > > > sign me up.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor
> diff
> > guards,
> > > > we
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00
> > per unit.
> > > > > Check
> > > > > > > his website below for info.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > > > > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
> > buy. I
> > > > have 3
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > far.
> > > > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > > > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: Michael Wixom
> > > > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
> > guards
> > > > too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will let you know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > > > > To: jaylalib
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > > > > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group
> buy
> > > > together
> > > > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> > > > interested.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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56071 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:50am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
By the way, 4 Wheelers Supply sells diff covers that are made out of
some pretty thick metal - I'd say 1/8" - 3/16"ut don't remember for sure.
I got one for my rear Dana 44 and have not dented it yet - though I have
tried. ;-)
Seems like I paid $30 for the cover.
-Roger
"Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com" wrote:
> That looks like my diff covers! I made the mistake of leaving 1/16"th of
> the covers sticking out. I was surprised that any of them leaked. Just
> placed my order for 2 covers ;)
>
> Jesus Chio
> Home account
> Chief Editor : www.alloffroad.com
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
> Para: 'robert_j_rogers2' <robert.rogers@c...>; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 06:22 p.m.
> Asunto: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
>
> >After this http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/diffs-9.jpg happened
> >back in March, the D44 rear got a guard put on it to prevent this from
> >happening again. :)
> >
> >Stu
> >
> >Stu Olson
> >www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: robert_j_rogers2 [mailto:robert.rogers@c...]
> >Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:04 PM
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
> >
> >I put mine in the front as I usualy drive much faster forward than in
> >reverse. I know the argument that I should know where the thing is in
> >the front, but I believe that it will be the unseen item that gets me
> >not the big rock I am slowing trying to manuver over. I would realy
> >like a better one for the rear with both avenues of approach coverd.
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56072 From: David Withers <dwithers@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:18am
Subject: RE: Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
Can someone post the link to the pictures again
-----Original Message-----
From: J & P Visic [mailto:jpvisic@n...]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:29 PM
To: azx4w@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; sharxjeep@c...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine
Cage...
Thanks for posting the pictures. Looks great!!
John Visic
84 Needs Paint CJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: <sharxjeep@c...>
To: <azx4w@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
> <A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/album/40277441amhEhU">Click
> here: Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...</A>
>
> Here are the pics of the new Exo and Engine cage on the McNasty
> McWrangler Thanks again John for an awesome job.
>
> Sharky
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56073 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@i...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:22am
Subject: Re: Hard top air flow question
Michelle,
Every vehicle model is different. You'd need a wind tunnel to determine how
much, and what angle opening you need to counteract the vacuum effect of any
given opening.
That said, I can offer you anecdotal evidence. My Jeep runs with the top up
but all the windows off. So it has a similar physical configuration to your
Jeep. When I first constructed my exhaust stack for water fording, I
terminated it at tub level behind the c-pillar. By the time I drove 15
miles, both Max the Dog and I were passing out from the fumes. I stopped at
a Midas Muffler off the interstate and had the stack extended above the
roofline. Problem solved.
So my point is to look at where your exhaust terminates: location,
direction, angle, height. Then consider what mods to make to the exhaust.
Hope this helps.
Gunslinger
Gunslinger's First Law: "No good deed goes unpunished."
----- Original Message -----
From: "mirau" <mirau@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 10 June, 2002 16:46
Subject: [az_vjc] Hard top air flow question
> I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
> windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory hard
> top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
> windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
> exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
>
> Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
> rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
> because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
> safari top users have a similar problem?
>
> I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
> time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such a
> problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
> makes a difference.
>
> Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michelle
>
56074 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:41am
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Sunday, June 16, 2002
Hello All,
timothy doyle is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Sunday, June 16, 2002.
When: 9:00am
Where: gas station on the southeast corner of the B-line and fortmcdowell road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: all day
CB Channel: 04
this will be a fathers day event for all you fathers out the how have nothing better to do then play in the dirt.i was thinking we would go there and just have a good time talk,play,swim in the water for the kids and maby have a little compition on how has the best all around 4 wheel drive.
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
56075 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:41am
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Sunday, June 16, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
timothy doyle is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Sunday, June 16, 2002.
When: 9:00am
Where: gas station on the southeast corner of the B-line and fortmcdowell road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: all day
CB Channel: 04
this will be a fathers day event for all you fathers out the how have nothing better to do then play in the dirt.i was thinking we would go there and just have a good time talk,play,swim in the water for the kids and maby have a little compition on how has the best all around 4 wheel drive.
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
56076 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 11:05am
Subject: (FS) Detroit Locker & ARB Locker
Group:
The Camo Cow is getting 4.56 R&P on Monday the 17th of June. It has
D44's front and rear of course with 3.54 R&P now with a Detroit Locker
in the rear and an ARB Locker in the front. Because I have to go to the
larger carrier I have to buy all new parts. Because of this the Detroit
and the ARB will be available with the 3.54 R&P. They have few miles on
them and were professionally installed (and removed) by KONGS 4X4 here
in Phoenix. You know what they cost new so I will let them go
(singularly or together) to the best offer. You can e-mail me off-line
or on as the spirit moves you. I would like to see approx. $475 for the
Detroit and $575 for the ARB which will have everything needed to hook
it up including the solenoid. This includes the R&P of course.
56052 From: juggox <juggox@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:00pm
Subject: CD Changer
Does anyone out there have a Mopar 6 disc changer? If so, could you
give me the dimesions (HxWxL) of the unit? I just got a CD changer
console that fits in the back right side panel of the XJ. It fits
between the wheel well and the lift gate and holds the changer and
has a storage area below it. The problem is that I have a 10 disc
changer and it doesn't fit into the new console.
If the dimensions of the 6 disc changer are right, would anyone be
intereseted in trading for a 10 disc?
TIA for the help,
Ben
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56053 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:11pm
Subject: Re: --------------------Master Cylinder or Slave CyLindEr------------??
I'd say it's probablly the master.
Either the diafram or the seals inside are bad and fluid is passing by them.
Not allowing the pressure to stay aginst the throwout bering.
Therefore gradgually releasing the pressure on the clutch..
There also may be a proble with the internal seal folding over inside the
master. Mine does this everyonce in a while. the seal or O ring allows fluid
past it and this reduces the holding pressure.
Hope this helps
DAve
>From: Michael K <kmichael02@y...>
>To: Dave oboyle <arizonaxj@h...>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] --------------------Master Cylinder or Slave
>CyLindEr------------??
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:05:34 -0700 (PDT)
>
>no no and no.........no leak, no noise, fluid is full,
>no noticable leak, and yes i've checked and climbed
>all over it...that's my problem not sure where to
>begin...yes, my synchro's are a bit goofed but no more
>than usual, besides if the clutch's response is what's
>goofed up...not the tranny at this point...sometimes
>the clutch grabbs so quick i almost stall or have to
>gas the hell out of it... other times it acts normal,
>as though nothing is wrong...??? help?
>any other ideas?
>thanks for the reply dave, this group is a very good
>thing.
>
>mike
>--- Dave oboyle <arizonaxj@h...> wrote:
> > First check your master reseviour. Make sure it is
> > full and stays full. it
> > is drains slowly after a few days you have a leak in
> > the system.
> >
> > If it is the slave you cannot hold it in gear at a
> > stop, it will lunge
> > forward after pressing in the clutch pedal. Or you
> > cannot change gears while
> > driving. If it is hard to change gears while driving
> > there may be a problem
> > with the transmission it's self. Try not using the
> > clutch and easing it into
> > gear while driving.. just match rpm to speed and it
> > will go right into
> > gear..
> >
> > You'd normally see fluid loss if it is the slave
> > cylinder. The seals are the
> > first to go if your lucky. If not your replacing the
> > entire clutch setup
> > because fluid contaminated your clutch plate.
> > If it is the slave master then you may be getting
> > flid on the fire wall in
> > the drivers compartment. look under or behind your
> > carpet underneath the
> > dash where the carpet and the fire wall meet.
> >
> > If your throw out bering is going bad you'll either
> > hear metal scraping or a
> > high pitched squeeling sound...
> >
> > Hope this helps. I have replaced 4 slave cylinders
> > in my XJ in the past 3
> > years and all of these symptoms have happend to
> > me...
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "kmichael02" <kmichael02@y...>
> > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] --------------------Master
> > Cylinder or Slave
> > >CyLindEr------------??
> > >Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 13:29:35 -0000
> > >
> > >Ok everyone, I need your help and experience
> > regarding an issue i'm
> > >having. How do i know weather it's my slave that's
> > going bad or my
> > >master. Is there any way to determine this? There
> > is no leakage
> > >that i can find. Is there a good rule of thumb to
> > use or any kind of
> > >device that'll help me isolate this(that is really
> > inexpensive)
> > >
> > >92 yj 4.o
> > >
> > >many thanks
> > >
> > >mike
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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56054 From: Dave oboyle <arizonaXj@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:30pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
Mine was broken into last wednesday and thought they took my
dirt filled sony cd player and my B&M shifter knob all they did was pop the
lock on my vent window.. 37.50 for a new lock at Earnhearts.
I have a kill switch wired to the ignition so it can't be stolen.
I'd suggest just leaving the doors unlocked and not leave anything worth
stealing in the Vehicle.. They didn't take over 1500 dollars worth of tools
that I had left in the vehicle so I consider my self lucky.. They can have
the Cd eating sony and that damn shifter knob for all I care. as long as I
still have my XJ and my tools I can deal with it... :)
Take care
Dave
>From: "Joey Martinez" <joey@w...>
>To: "jeepclub" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] theft deterent
>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:10:27 -0700
>
>hey all I just noticed that some creep tried to get into my jeep by way of
>driver side strip molding via screwdriver, can anyone recommend good theft
>deterent. I don't know if its new or old but it bothers the heck out of me.
>I was thinking a removable steering wheel? alarm? big big dog?
>
>
>
>BTW
>i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
>
>94xjoe
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56055 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:44pm
Subject: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings, misunderstandings and
apologies recently.
It will be a long, hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran, sooner or later you
will become offended, or offend someone else by what you type. (Kinda silly,
but true.)
The only remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with each
other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching parties, weekly
lunch meetings, etc.
You are less likely to unintentionally offend or be offended by people you
meet with regularly.
When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people they don't
know, misunderstandings will abound.
Good luck!
Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
56056 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:56pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
Bill,
Nicely put!!
I noticed the same thing.
Shawn Passmore
jeepcj5nut
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: "1" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings, misunderstandings and
> apologies recently.
> It will be a long, hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
>
> Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran, sooner or later
you
> will become offended, or offend someone else by what you type. (Kinda
silly,
> but true.)
> The only remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
each
> other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching parties, weekly
> lunch meetings, etc.
> You are less likely to unintentionally offend or be offended by people you
> meet with regularly.
>
> When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people they don't
> know, misunderstandings will abound.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
56057 From: Allen Jakob <allenjakob@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:50pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)
Very nice Shawn!!
Thanks for sharing. I missed it (was working)
Allen Jakob
97 TJ Sahara
--- Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...> wrote:
> Hey guys/gals,
> I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse
> this evening, and this is what I came up with:
>
>
>
> I took the pic with my digital camera through my
> welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it
> was pretty cool.
>
> Shawn
>
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56058 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:32am
Subject: RE: yahoo groups
Tom,
I had the same problem. All you need to do is go to your setup page on yahoogroups and add the email address (even if it is already there) that you want your email to go to. It will send out a confirmation to that account, reply to it just as you would if you were adding a new email address and then everything should work fine.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: TRobertsRN [mailto:TRobertsRN@email.msn.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:50 PM
To: FSJ-List@yahoogroups.com; AzVJC_OT@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; az_vgc@yahoogroups.com; AZ_FSJA@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] yahoo groups
I am still able to send messages to all my yahoo groups, (they appear at the sites) but not receiving individual emails as my account is set up.
HELP!!
Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
Gilbert, Arizona
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56059 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 6:50am
Subject: RE: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
It's all good.
And please re-read before you hit that send button. I can't tell you how
many times I hit the delete key in responding to messages because I know
someone will get butt hurt and end up selling their Jeep because of how
they interpret what I post.
Like I said "it's all good"... Well until someone looses an eye that is.
See you on the trail. :D
Joey K
93YJ
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
> To: 1
> Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
>
>
> I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings,
> misunderstandings and apologies recently. It will be a long,
> hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
>
> Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran,
> sooner or later you will become offended, or offend someone
> else by what you type. (Kinda silly, but true.) The only
> remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
> each other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching
> parties, weekly lunch meetings, etc. You are less likely to
> unintentionally offend or be offended by people you meet with
> regularly.
>
> When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people
> they don't know, misunderstandings will abound.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Bill Mish
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
56060 From: kmichael02 <kmichael02@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:07am
Subject: INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
56061 From: Joe Kearney <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 7:32am
Subject: Re: [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
That work good also what I do is when I am butt hurt and mad I just write it
and then save it (not send it) then the next day I read it and usually laugh
at my being stupid.
Bill that is the nicest thing I ever saw you write. :-)
Great job.
Joe Kearney
----- Original Message -----
From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
To: "'Bill Mish'" <yldkat55@h...>; "'1'" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> It's all good.
>
> And please re-read before you hit that send button. I can't tell you how
> many times I hit the delete key in responding to messages because I know
> someone will get butt hurt and end up selling their Jeep because of how
> they interpret what I post.
>
> Like I said "it's all good"... Well until someone looses an eye that is.
> See you on the trail. :D
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bill Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:44 PM
> > To: 1
> > Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Find some thick skin Quick!
> >
> >
> > I couldn't help but notice all the hurt feelings,
> > misunderstandings and apologies recently. It will be a long,
> > hot, dry summer, most of us will survive......
> >
> > Whether you are new to the group, or a seasoned veteran,
> > sooner or later you will become offended, or offend someone
> > else by what you type. (Kinda silly, but true.) The only
> > remedy immediately apparent to me is to continue meeting with
> > each other as we have in the past with Night runs, wrenching
> > parties, weekly lunch meetings, etc. You are less likely to
> > unintentionally offend or be offended by people you meet with
> > regularly.
> >
> > When people are on unfamiliar ground, or dealing with people
> > they don't know, misunderstandings will abound.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Bill Mish
> > 1955 Willys CJ3B
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
56062 From: Scott Kruize <scottkruize@e...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:41am
Subject: RE: INsurance agents..........
George Cromer
Country Companies Insurance
(602) 439-8084
No problem with even the 37's and 6 inch lift. George is a great guy to
work with. I've been with Country Companies for about 3 years.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
56063 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:41am
Subject: OT forum, computer parts for sale
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AzVJC_OT/message/153
Mike Baney
56064 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:49am
Subject: RE: INsurance agents..........
I just changed from Allstate to them. They are great. They not only saved me
about $200 a year but I also got 10 time the coverage I had with Allstate.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:scottkruize@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:42 AM
To: 'kmichael02'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
George Cromer
Country Companies Insurance
(602) 439-8084
No problem with even the 37's and 6 inch lift. George is a great guy to
work with. I've been with Country Companies for about 3 years.
Scott K
-----Original Message-----
From: kmichael02 [mailto:kmichael02@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] INsurance agents..........
Would anyone like to recommend someone who is jeep friendly? My
agent raised my rate twice in the last 3 mos...I'm not happy and my
driving record is perfect...thanks
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
56065 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 8:44am
Subject: Oil Change
Something FUNNY for a change................ no letters, polls or "green
notices"!!!!
This is great!!! My daughter-in-law sent, but then again it's
understandable as she "has one of these oil monsters" too! Do any of you
"know" this guy??? <grin> <giggle>
Sandee
Oil Change instructions for Women:
1) Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches
3000 miles since the
last oil change.
2) Drink a cup of coffee.
3) 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a
properly
maintained
vehicle.
Money spent:
Oil Change $20.00
Coffee $1.00
Total $21.00.
Oil Change instructions for Men:
1) Go to auto parts store and write a check for
$40.00 for oil,
filter,
kitty litter, hand
cleaner and a scented tree
2) Discover that the used oil container is full.
Instead of taking it
back to O'Reilly to recycle, dump in hole in back
yard.
3) Open a beer and drink it.
4) Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack
stands.
5) Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
6) In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
7) Place drain pan under engine.
8) Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
9) Give up and use crescent wrench.
10) Unscrew drain plug.
11) Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil: get hot oil on
you in process.
12) Clean up mess.
13) Have another beer while watching oil drain
14) Look for oil filter wrench.
15) Give up; poke oil filter with screwdriver and
twist off.
16) Beer.
17) Buddy shows up; finish case of beer with him.
Finish oil change
tomorrow.
18) Next day, drag pan full of old oil out from
underneath car.
19) Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18.
20) Beer. No, drank it all yesterday.
21) Walk to 7-11; buy beer.
22) Install new oil filter making sure to apply a
thin coat of oil to
gasket surface.
23) Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
24) Remember drain plug from step 11.
25) Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
26) Discover that the used oil is buried in a hole in
the back yard,
along
with drain plug.
27) Drink beer.
28) Uncover hole and sift for drain plug.
29) Discover that first quart of fresh oil is now on
the floor.
30) Drink beer.
31) Slip with wrench tightening drain plug and bang
knuckles on frame.
32) Bang head on floorboards in reaction to step 31.
33) Begin cussing fit and throw wrench.
34) Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit
Miss December
1992 in
the left boob.
35) Beer.
36) Dump in five fresh quarts of oil.
37) Lower car from jack stands and accidentally crush
one.
38) Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh
oil spilled
during
step 23.
39) Beer.
40) Test drive car.
41) Get pulled over: arrested for driving under the
influence.
42) Car gets impounded.
43) Make bail.
44) Get car from impound yard.
Money spent:
Parts $40.00
DUI $2500.00
Impound fee $75.00
Bail $1500.00
Beer $25.00
Total $4140.00 --- But you know the job was done
right.
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56066 From: rolexja <off-road@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:02am
Subject: Questions about my ZJ
My ZJ has a full time all-wheel drive transfer case (NP249) so I
wonder: when in "normal" mode does the engine power go 50-50
to both axles, or does it do some kind of 60-40, 70-30, split?
The stock tires on it were P225/70/15, since I know the "P"
on the tire stands for passenger, or maybe "Problems off
road", I bought a used set of LT235/75/15. The problem I'm
having with
these tires is that they rub against the lower control arms when I
turn the steering wheel all the way to either side.
As far as I can tell, my set of "off-road" wheels have the
exact same dimensions and offset as the factory "gold
honeycomb" wheels I have with street tires 15x7 with a 5.5
offset.
Any ideas or suggestions?
Jose
off-road@c...
56067 From: azvjc <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:05am
Subject: Bouncing Members.... Was: HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE
I have noticed that several members in the past week or so have been
complaining that they're not recieving e-mail from their Yahoo Groups.
Apparently there were some problems and alot of people's e-
mails "Bounced" back to Yahoo Groups. When this happens repeatedly,
Yahoo places the member on the "Bouncing" list and stops sending them
e-mail.
If they e-mail the group, this resets their status and they should
start recieving e-mails again. If this happens to you in the future,
just send an e-mail to the group. If that doesn't work, contact me.
If you know someone that has been complaining (off group) that their
not getting e-mail from the group, could you pass this message on to
them.
Thanks,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> have not received any e-mails to day wat up folks
>
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56068 From: Jon Loveless-DSL <jloveless@d...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:09am
Subject: world cup virus
If you are interested in the World Cup, be aware of this new virus.
http://www.europe.f-secure.com/v-descs/worldcup.shtml
Jon Loveless
480-816-0963
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56069 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:42am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
I personally would prefer one that protects the fill plug. One time, I
evidently
dropped off a ledge or something like that and caught the fill plug on a rock.
I didn't really leak fluid (at least not when sitting level) but the diff cover
was
ruined because the fill hole was distorted and could not be pounded back.
-Roger
"Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com" wrote:
> What do you guys think of these protectors?
>
> http://www.ronscustomshop.bigstep.com/generic21.html
>
> My brother riped both front and rear of my Jeep during the Ramsey Challenge.
>
> Jesus Chio
> Home account
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>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
> Para: 'hiett710' <hiett710@y...>; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 06:02 p.m.
> Asunto: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
>
> >Both places, in my opinion. In the rear, one is more likely to peel
> >open the cover when sliding the diff over a rock. In the front, one is
> >more likely to hit something head on and damage the ring gear. Of
> >course, changing the direction of the vehicle causes these same two
> >issues to occur at opposite ends of the vehicle.
> >
> >Over time, I've peeled more rear covers than I've dented front ones.
> >
> >Stu Olson
> >www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: hiett710 [mailto:hiett710@y...]
> >Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:19 PM
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
> >
> >Are we done yet?
> >
> >Where is the diff guard needed the most? Front or rear?
> >If I didn't mispell anything maybe I'll get an answer :)
> >.H ekiM JT wolley 02
> >
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@c...> wrote:
> >> Chris/Mike/Stu,
> >> What the hell is this thread all about. Mike, the
> >guy
> >> misunderstood what you were trying to say on the pricing and you
> >call
> >> him an idiot and question his ability to read and understand simple
> >> english - lighten up fella this is a group thing and we are not all
> >> as quick to the punch as you.
> >> Stu, basically I am floored by this. You openly critique
> >anothers
> >> ability to understand yet you can't even spell buy correctly in
> >your
> >> post "Hell, you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock
> >> washers for that price.". Like any idiot I guess....
> >> Josh Wooten
> >> 99 TJ -Homer-
> >> --- In az_vjc@y..., "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...> wrote:
> >> > Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of
> >> people
> >> > openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot
> >of
> >> our
> >> > members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase
> >we
> >> want to
> >> > learn and enjoy offroading with others.
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> >> > To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@Y...>
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
> >> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Michael,
> >> > >
> >> > > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
> >> post.
> >> > > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
> >> would
> >> > > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for
> >$10.
> >> Hell,
> >> > > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers
> >for
> >> that
> >> > > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
> >> knock
> >> > > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
> >> > >
> >> > > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
> >> > >
> >> > > Stu
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Stu Olson
> >> > > www.stu-offroad.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> >> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> >> > > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> >> > > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> >> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > >
> >> > > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> >> > > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would
> >be
> >> $15 -
> >> > > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
> >> price
> >> > > less
> >> > > the discount? Whatever dude..
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> >> > > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@Y...>
> >> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you
> >cant
> >> read
> >> > > but
> >> > > the
> >> > > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is
> >about
> >> > > 10.00-15.00
> >> > > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
> >> that.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> >> > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>; "Michael Wixom"
> >> > > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> >> > > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> >> > > > > sign me up.
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>
> >> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> >> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor
> >diff
> >> guards,
> >> > > we
> >> > > > need
> >> > > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00
> >> per unit.
> >> > > > Check
> >> > > > > > his website below for info.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> >> > > > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Mike,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
> >> buy. I
> >> > > have 3
> >> > > > so
> >> > > > > > far.
> >> > > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> >> > > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> >> > > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> >> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> >> > > > > > 480-221-9298
> >> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> >> > > > > > To: Michael Wixom
> >> > > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> >> > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Hi Mike,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
> >> guards
> >> > > too.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > I will let you know.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> >> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> >> > > > > > 480-221-9298
> >> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> >> > > > > > To: jaylalib
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >> Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Mike Wixom
> >> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> >> > > > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> >Guards
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group
> >buy
> >> > > together
> >> > > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> >> > > interested.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Thanks,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Jason
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
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56070 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:45am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
My preference would be the rear first because I'm pretty good at keeping
track of what's coming up in front of my front diff (in fact I normally try to
avoid hitting my front diff on anything) whereas if I have to stop and back
up I usually have no clue what's right behind my rear diff. I've dented a
rear diff cover or two but never a front diff cover.
-Roger
hiett710 wrote:
> Are we done yet?
>
> Where is the diff guard needed the most? Front or rear?
> If I didn't mispell anything maybe I'll get an answer :)
> .H ekiM JT wolley 02
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" <jawooten@c...> wrote:
> > Chris/Mike/Stu,
> > What the hell is this thread all about. Mike, the
> guy
> > misunderstood what you were trying to say on the pricing and you
> call
> > him an idiot and question his ability to read and understand simple
> > english - lighten up fella this is a group thing and we are not all
> > as quick to the punch as you.
> > Stu, basically I am floored by this. You openly critique
> anothers
> > ability to understand yet you can't even spell buy correctly in
> your
> > post "Hell, you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock
> > washers for that price.". Like any idiot I guess....
> > Josh Wooten
> > 99 TJ -Homer-
> > --- In az_vjc@y..., "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...> wrote:
> > > Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of
> > people
> > > openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot
> of
> > our
> > > members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase
> we
> > want to
> > > learn and enjoy offroading with others.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
> > > To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@Y...>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Michael,
> > > >
> > > > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
> > post.
> > > > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
> > would
> > > > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for
> $10.
> > Hell,
> > > > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers
> for
> > that
> > > > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
> > knock
> > > > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
> > > >
> > > > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
> > > >
> > > > Stu
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Stu Olson
> > > > www.stu-offroad.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> > > > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> > > > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > >
> > > > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> > > > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would
> be
> > $15 -
> > > > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
> > price
> > > > less
> > > > the discount? Whatever dude..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > > > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@Y...>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you
> cant
> > read
> > > > but
> > > > the
> > > > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is
> about
> > > > 10.00-15.00
> > > > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
> > that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>; "Michael Wixom"
> > > > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> > > > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> > > > > > sign me up.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor
> diff
> > guards,
> > > > we
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00
> > per unit.
> > > > > Check
> > > > > > > his website below for info.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > > > > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
> > buy. I
> > > > have 3
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > far.
> > > > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > > > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > > > > > > To: Michael Wixom
> > > > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
> > guards
> > > > too.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will let you know.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > > > > To: jaylalib
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> > Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > > > > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
> Guards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group
> buy
> > > > together
> > > > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> > > > interested.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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56071 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 9:50am
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
By the way, 4 Wheelers Supply sells diff covers that are made out of
some pretty thick metal - I'd say 1/8" - 3/16"ut don't remember for sure.
I got one for my rear Dana 44 and have not dented it yet - though I have
tried. ;-)
Seems like I paid $30 for the cover.
-Roger
"Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com" wrote:
> That looks like my diff covers! I made the mistake of leaving 1/16"th of
> the covers sticking out. I was surprised that any of them leaked. Just
> placed my order for 2 covers ;)
>
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> Home account
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> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
> Para: 'robert_j_rogers2' <robert.rogers@c...>; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 06:22 p.m.
> Asunto: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
>
> >After this http://www.stu-offroad.com/misc/images/diffs-9.jpg happened
> >back in March, the D44 rear got a guard put on it to prevent this from
> >happening again. :)
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> >Stu
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> >Stu Olson
> >www.stu-offroad.com
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> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: robert_j_rogers2 [mailto:robert.rogers@c...]
> >Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:04 PM
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
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> >I put mine in the front as I usualy drive much faster forward than in
> >reverse. I know the argument that I should know where the thing is in
> >the front, but I believe that it will be the unseen item that gets me
> >not the big rock I am slowing trying to manuver over. I would realy
> >like a better one for the rear with both avenues of approach coverd.
> >
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56072 From: David Withers <dwithers@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:18am
Subject: RE: Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
Can someone post the link to the pictures again
-----Original Message-----
From: J & P Visic [mailto:jpvisic@n...]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 8:29 PM
To: azx4w@yahoogroups.com; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; sharxjeep@c...
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine
Cage...
Thanks for posting the pictures. Looks great!!
John Visic
84 Needs Paint CJ7
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From: <sharxjeep@c...>
To: <azx4w@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 6:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
> <A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/album/40277441amhEhU">Click
> here: Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...</A>
>
> Here are the pics of the new Exo and Engine cage on the McNasty
> McWrangler Thanks again John for an awesome job.
>
> Sharky
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56073 From: Garrison St.Clair <gunslinger@i...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:22am
Subject: Re: Hard top air flow question
Michelle,
Every vehicle model is different. You'd need a wind tunnel to determine how
much, and what angle opening you need to counteract the vacuum effect of any
given opening.
That said, I can offer you anecdotal evidence. My Jeep runs with the top up
but all the windows off. So it has a similar physical configuration to your
Jeep. When I first constructed my exhaust stack for water fording, I
terminated it at tub level behind the c-pillar. By the time I drove 15
miles, both Max the Dog and I were passing out from the fumes. I stopped at
a Midas Muffler off the interstate and had the stack extended above the
roofline. Problem solved.
So my point is to look at where your exhaust terminates: location,
direction, angle, height. Then consider what mods to make to the exhaust.
Hope this helps.
Gunslinger
Gunslinger's First Law: "No good deed goes unpunished."
----- Original Message -----
From: "mirau" <mirau@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 10 June, 2002 16:46
Subject: [az_vjc] Hard top air flow question
> I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
> windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory hard
> top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
> windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
> exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
>
> Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
> rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
> because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
> safari top users have a similar problem?
>
> I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
> time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such a
> problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
> makes a difference.
>
> Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michelle
>
56074 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:41am
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Sunday, June 16, 2002
Hello All,
timothy doyle is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Sunday, June 16, 2002.
When: 9:00am
Where: gas station on the southeast corner of the B-line and fortmcdowell road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: all day
CB Channel: 04
this will be a fathers day event for all you fathers out the how have nothing better to do then play in the dirt.i was thinking we would go there and just have a good time talk,play,swim in the water for the kids and maby have a little compition on how has the best all around 4 wheel drive.
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
56075 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 10:41am
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Sunday, June 16, 2002 - Reminder
Hello All,
timothy doyle is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Sunday, June 16, 2002.
When: 9:00am
Where: gas station on the southeast corner of the B-line and fortmcdowell road.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: all day
CB Channel: 04
this will be a fathers day event for all you fathers out the how have nothing better to do then play in the dirt.i was thinking we would go there and just have a good time talk,play,swim in the water for the kids and maby have a little compition on how has the best all around 4 wheel drive.
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
Click Here To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
56076 From: Gary Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Jun 11, 2002 11:05am
Subject: (FS) Detroit Locker & ARB Locker
Group:
The Camo Cow is getting 4.56 R&P on Monday the 17th of June. It has
D44's front and rear of course with 3.54 R&P now with a Detroit Locker
in the rear and an ARB Locker in the front. Because I have to go to the
larger carrier I have to buy all new parts. Because of this the Detroit
and the ARB will be available with the 3.54 R&P. They have few miles on
them and were professionally installed (and removed) by KONGS 4X4 here
in Phoenix. You know what they cost new so I will let them go
(singularly or together) to the best offer. You can e-mail me off-line
or on as the spirit moves you. I would like to see approx. $475 for the
Detroit and $575 for the ARB which will have everything needed to hook
it up including the solenoid. This includes the R&P of course.