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56027 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 7:42pm
Subject: Re: Diff guards 8.8


Jim,

LOL, I was supposed to have their first one, prototype. That was over
a month ago. I am in for one and at this point I really don't give a
rats rear where it comes from. I am just damn tired of someone
telling me (by nothing other than relaying a message from the people
manufacturing them) that they will have them in a couple of days or a
week and then nothing ever comes of it.

I tell you what, if we don't have anything in 16 days, I will have my
step-father cut us the rings (My step father is out-of-town for until
then). Then you can put your own tubing or strap, which ever you
wish. You can buy your own bolts, lol, and powder coat them (or
better yet Krylon them) your own color.

Does anyone have an extra 8.8 diff cover laying around? (Maybe I
could go borrow one from Berge for a few days :D). I will start
making a laser program to cut them out, before the time period is
passed, at my own expense.

--James

--- In az_vjc@y..., "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> I talked to Toys by Troy and they have the design for this
complete but
> have never gone into production. They will contact me tomorrow as
to how
> much to run a one off production. If anyone else is interested it
could make
> it cheaper for all of us. Let me know but take if off line e-mail
me. Jim F.
> aka Hackle
>
> I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a
member. "Groucho
> Marx"
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
> http://www.rockrats.org/



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56028 From: tj_angel_113 <angel_113_@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 7:53pm
Subject: Re: [FS] Complete Wrangler A/C sytstem


What engine? If it's for 4.2L I might know someone who is
interested. What's your e-mail address?

Angel


56029 From: jaylalib <jaylalib1@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 7:57pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy


Ummm.... did anyone else want in on the GB? ....

Sorry about the string of emails...

Jason










> > Michael,
> >
> > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
post.
> > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
would
> > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for $10.
> Hell,
> > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers for
that
> > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
knock
> > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
> >
> > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson
> > www.stu-offroad.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >
> > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would be
$15
> -
> > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
price
> > less
> > the discount? Whatever dude..
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@Y...>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >
> >
> > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you cant
read
> > but
> > the
> > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is about
> > 10.00-15.00
> > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
that.
> > >
> > > Mike Wixom
> > > 85 CJ-7
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>; "Michael Wixom"
> > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > > >
> > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> > > > sign me up.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor diff
> guards,
> > we
> > > need
> > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00 per
> unit.
> > > Check
> > > > > his website below for info.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
buy. I
> > have 3
> > > so
> > > > > far.
> > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
Guards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > > > > To: Michael Wixom
> > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
Guards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
guards
> > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > I will let you know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > > To: jaylalib
> > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
Guards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > > > > To: <az_vjc@y...>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group buy
> > together
> > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> > interested.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >


56030 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:05pm
Subject: Re: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm


Thanks Gary!
Linda

---------------------

BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000
BLM Arizona - Fire Restrictions
The Bureau of Land Management has placed fire restrictions on all
of the 11.6 million acres of BLM land in Arizona. These restrictions
include:

a.. On Mohave County's Hualapai Mountain Park and other BLM
lands in northwestern Arizona overseen by the Kingman Field Office, no
open fires are allowed. This includes campfires, barbecue grills using
charcoal or wood or any other use of open fires.
b.. On the remaining BLM-managed lands statewide, fires are
allowed only in developed camping and picnic areas. Allowable practices
there include the use of charcoal in designated or commercially
manufactured grills and propane and petroleum-fueled stoves, lanterns or
heating devices.
c.. Smoking is allowed only in developed recreation sites,
inside buildings or vehicles or while stopped in an area cleared of all
flammable materials.
d.. Fireworks are illegal on all Arizona public lands.
Restriction violations are punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 or
a year in prison or both.

These restrictions are in place due to exceptionally dry
conditions and extreme fire danger throughout the western U.S. Please do
your part and respect all restrictions. Thank you.

For the most up-to-date fire restriction information, please call
(602) 417-9512, or toll-free 1-877-864-6985. You may also access the
"Fire Information" page on the Southwest Area Web Site at:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire for information regarding all lands in
Arizona and New Mexico, including BLM public lands.

Field Office Phone Number Restrictions?
Arizona Strip (435) 688-3200 Yes Order
Phoenix (623) 580-5500 Yes Order
Kingman (928) 692-4400 Yes Order
Lake Havasu (928) 505-1200 Yes Order
Safford (928) 348-4400 Yes Order
Tucson (520) 258-7200 Yes Order
Yuma (928) 317-3200 Yes Order



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56031 From: flexyxj <flexyxj98@m...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:11pm
Subject: Re: [FS] dana 30 and dana 35


--- In az_vjc@y..., AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
>


What is the Dana 30 out of????


FlexyXJ


56032 From: Michael Wixom <h8pvmnt@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:23pm
Subject: Sorry To Chris B.


I just want to publicly apologize to Chris B. for the harsh reply, I took un-needed offense to his reply. I usually exercise much better control. I promise this won't become a habit. BTW we still need to order at least ten Diff Guards to get a discount, any takers?

Mike Wixom
85 CJ-7


56033 From: biertempfel105 <biertempfel105@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:48pm
Subject: NO MAIL


WAT UP NOTHIN WORKING


56034 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:51pm
Subject: HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE


have not received any e-mails to day wat up folks

THANKS RICK BEER


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56035 From: Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:50pm
Subject: RE: HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE


Pay your bills!


Jesus Chio
Home account
Chief Editor : www.alloffroad.com




-----Mensaje original-----
De: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@MSN.COM>
Para: JEEP <AZ_VJC@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 09:58 p.m.
Asunto: [az_vjc] HELLO IS ANYBODY OUT THERE


have not received any e-mails to day wat up folks

THANKS RICK BEER

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56036 From: mouski_85304 <mouski_85304@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 8:56pm
Subject: vin search


Sometime ago, someone had mentioned they had access to vin searches.
Could you contact me if you still do these???
Thank you.
M


56037 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:16pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.


I also like them. But then I just installed them front and back this morning. The rear one (Dana44) fits much closer than the front one (Dana 30). On the D44 I would say there is about an 8th of an inch clearance between the guard and the diff cover. On the front there is about an inch clearance. Not what I call low clearance but I don't think it will hit anything.

Steven

In a message dated 6/10/02 5:11:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time, solson8@qwest.net writes:


Jesus....considering that D44 in the picture is sitting under my TJ, I
am inclined to say I like it. :) (yes, I told Ron he could use my
picture)

TC!

Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Jesus Chio - Alloffroad.com [mailto:jchio@alloffroad.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 5:56 PM
To: 'hiett710'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com; Stu Olson
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.

What do you guys think of these protectors?

http://www.ronscustomshop.bigstep.com/generic21.html


My brother riped both front and rear of my Jeep during the Ramsey
Challenge.


Jesus Chio
Home account
Chief Editor : www.alloffroad.com




-----Mensaje original-----
De: Stu Olson
Para: 'hiett710' ; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com

Fecha: Lunes, 10 de Junio de 2002 06:02 p.m.
Asunto: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.


>Both places, in my opinion. In the rear, one is more likely to peel
>open the cover when sliding the diff over a rock. In the front, one is
>more likely to hit something head on and damage the ring gear. Of
>course, changing the direction of the vehicle causes these same two
>issues to occur at opposite ends of the vehicle.
>
>Over time, I've peeled more rear covers than I've dented front ones.
>
>Stu Olson
>www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hiett710 [mailto:hiett710@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 4:19 PM
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Bashing.
>
>Are we done yet?
>
>Where is the diff guard needed the most? Front or rear?
>If I didn't mispell anything maybe I'll get an answer :)
>.H ekiM JT wolley 02
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@y..., "pebble007" wrote:
>> Chris/Mike/Stu,
>> What the hell is this thread all about. Mike, the
>guy
>> misunderstood what you were trying to say on the pricing and you
>call
>> him an idiot and question his ability to read and understand simple
>> english - lighten up fella this is a group thing and we are not all
>> as quick to the punch as you.
>> Stu, basically I am floored by this. You openly critique
>anothers
>> ability to understand yet you can't even spell buy correctly in
>your
>> post "Hell, you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock
>> washers for that price.". Like any idiot I guess....
>> Josh Wooten
>> 99 TJ -Homer-
>> --- In az_vjc@y..., "chris benner" wrote:
>> > Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of
>> people
>> > openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot
>of
>> our
>> > members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase
>we
>> want to
>> > learn and enjoy offroading with others.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Stu Olson"
>> > To: "'Michael Wixom'"
>> > Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'"
>> > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>> >
>> >
>> > > Michael,
>> > >
>> > > For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original
>> post.
>> > > As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone
>> would
>> > > think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for
>$10.
>> Hell,
>> > > you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers
>for
>> that
>> > > price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would
>> knock
>> > > $1-~$15 off the selling price.
>> > >
>> > > Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
>> > >
>> > > Stu
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Stu Olson
>> > > www.stu-offroad.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
>> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
>> > > To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
>> > > Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>> > >
>> > > Well thank you for being an *** in public.
>> > > I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would
>be
>> $15 -
>> > > "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual
>> price
>> > > less
>> > > the discount? Whatever dude..
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Michael Wixom"
>> > > To: "chris benner"
>> > > Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club"
>> > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you
>cant
>> read
>> > > but
>> > > the
>> > > > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is
>about
>> > > 10.00-15.00
>> > > > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like
>> that.
>> > > >
>> > > > Mike Wixom
>> > > > 85 CJ-7
>> > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > From: "chris benner"
>> > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" ; "Michael Wixom"
>> > > >
>> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
>> > > > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
>> > > > > sign me up.
>> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > From: "Michael Wixom"
>> > > > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
>> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
>> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor
>diff
>> guards,
>> > > we
>> > > > need
>> > > > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00
>> per unit.
>> > > > Check
>> > > > > > his website below for info.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mike Wixom
>> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)"
>> > > > > > To:
>> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: Diff Guards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Mike,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to
>> buy. I
>> > > have 3
>> > > > so
>> > > > > > far.
>> > > > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jason
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
>> > > > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
>> > > > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
>> Guards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
>> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
>> > > > > > 480-221-9298
>> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
>> > > > > > To: Michael Wixom
>> > > > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
>> > > > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
>> Guards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Hi Mike,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff
>> guards
>> > > too.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I will let you know.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jason LaLiberty
>> > > > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
>> > > > > > 480-221-9298
>> > > > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
>> > > > > > To: jaylalib
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
>> Guards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mike Wixom
>> > > > > > 85 CJ-7
>> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > > > > From: "jaylalib"
>> > > > > > To:
>> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
>> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker
>Guards
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group
>buy
>> > > together
>> > > > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
>> > > interested.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Jason
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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56038 From: mt_b <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:23pm
Subject: Re: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm


So can we actually be *on* the land...as long as there is no fire or
smoking? Or is this a No Admitance policy?

--- In az_vjc@y..., linda luik <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Thanks Gary!
> Linda
>
> ---------------------
>
> BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000
> BLM Arizona - Fire Restrictions
> The Bureau of Land Management has placed fire restrictions on
all
> of the 11.6 million acres of BLM land in Arizona. These restrictions
> include:
>
> a.. On Mohave County's Hualapai Mountain Park and other BLM
> lands in northwestern Arizona overseen by the Kingman Field Office,
no
> open fires are allowed. This includes campfires, barbecue grills
using
> charcoal or wood or any other use of open fires.
> b.. On the remaining BLM-managed lands statewide, fires are
> allowed only in developed camping and picnic areas. Allowable
practices
> there include the use of charcoal in designated or commercially
> manufactured grills and propane and petroleum-fueled stoves,
lanterns or
> heating devices.
> c.. Smoking is allowed only in developed recreation sites,
> inside buildings or vehicles or while stopped in an area cleared of
all
> flammable materials.
> d.. Fireworks are illegal on all Arizona public lands.
> Restriction violations are punishable by a fine of up to
$1,000 or
> a year in prison or both.
>
> These restrictions are in place due to exceptionally dry
> conditions and extreme fire danger throughout the western U.S.
Please do
> your part and respect all restrictions. Thank you.
>
> For the most up-to-date fire restriction information, please
call
> (602) 417-9512, or toll-free 1-877-864-6985. You may also access the
> "Fire Information" page on the Southwest Area Web Site at:
> http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire for information regarding all lands in
> Arizona and New Mexico, including BLM public lands.
>
> Field Office Phone Number Restrictions?
> Arizona Strip (435) 688-3200 Yes Order
> Phoenix (623) 580-5500 Yes Order
> Kingman (928) 692-4400 Yes Order
> Lake Havasu (928) 505-1200 Yes Order
> Safford (928) 348-4400 Yes Order
> Tucson (520) 258-7200 Yes Order
> Yuma (928) 317-3200 Yes Order
>
>
>
> Search | Browse | Home | FAQs | Comments | Disclaimer
> News | Information | Outdoor Recreation | What We Do | Directory
>
> This is a U.S. Government Computer System. Before continuing,
please
> read this Disclaimer and Privacy Statement.
>
>
> Site Created by
> Arizona Bureau of Land Management
> Send Web Site inquiries to the Webmaster
>
> Bureau of Land Management
> Arizona State Office
> PO Box 45155
> 222 N. Central Avenue
> Phoenix, AZ 85004
> Phone:(602) 417-9200
>
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>
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>
>
>
> Gary MacLaren wrote:
> >
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> > Encoding: quoted-printable


56039 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:54pm
Subject: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Hey guys/gals,
I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse this evening, and this is what I came up with:



I took the pic with my digital camera through my welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it was pretty cool.

Shawn

Attachment: (image/jpeg) solar eclipse.jpg [not stored]

56040 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:44pm
Subject: Re: vin search


Please be more specific. Searches for what? Off what model vehicle?

--James

--- In az_vjc@y..., "mouski_85304" <mouski_85304@y...> wrote:
> Sometime ago, someone had mentioned they had access to vin
searches.
> Could you contact me if you still do these???
> Thank you.
> M


56041 From: ezrydr1 <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:06pm
Subject: Greenies protest Forrest Planning


Forest protesters plan summerlong campaign
June 07, 2002
Activists hit streets, tree themselves

By SHERRY DEVLIN of the Missoulian

Forest protesters plan summerlong campaign

Environmental activists nationwide - including a twentysomething
woman perched on a sheet of plywood two stories up a maple tree in
downtown Missoula - set out Thursday on a summerlong campaign to
criticize the forest management policies of Agriculture
Undersecretary Mark Rey.

"On every forest policy front, we are going backwards - back to the
days when timber was the dominant use of the national forests and the
public was largely left out of the equation," said Jake Kreilick, a
longtime Missoula activist and leader of the National Forest
Protection Alliance.

Kreilick and others met with Rey at his Washington, D.C., office,
then picketed the building. The meeting, Kreilick said, was "anti-
climatic."

"We aired our issues and concerns, but the undersecretary obviously
did not feel our pain," he said.

At the same time, a half-dozen members of Wild Rockies Earth First
hoisted a plywood plank into a boulevard tree outside the Forest
Service's regional office in Missoula and Rebecca Smith climbed
aboard with her knitting needles and yarn.

She promised to sit in the tree until Saturday, although her activism
will continue - "24 hours a day all summer."

"We are trying to raise public awareness about the salvage scam on
the Bitterroot National Forest," Smith said. "The logging is causing
a lot of harm to an area that has already been logged. This vigil is
just the beginning."

Rey, meanwhile, gave low marks to the protesters on the sidewalk
outside his Washington office. "I am a connoisseur of street
theater," he said. "They lost some points by not having anyone
dressed as an animal. There were also no TV cameras and nothing was
thrown. Those are all deductions."

"I don't think this is about the merits here, so I don't really want
to talk about the merits," Rey said. "I think this is a campaign to
cause friction and to raise money. There is such a dramatic
disconnect between what these groups are saying in private and what
they are advancing when they meet us in public."

As proof, the undersecretary offered a pair of documents - one a
letter requesting the meeting with Rey, the other a confidential e-
mail memo outlining this summer's Operation Enduring Forests
campaign.

In the letter, National Forest Protection Alliance executive director
Tom Weis said his group looked forward "to talking with you face-to-
face, and to engaging in a meaningful and constructive dialogue on
how best the U.S. Forest Service can advance the enlightened
stewardship of our nation's natural heritage."

In the memo to their fellow activists, Weis and Kreilick listed
their "main objectives" as exposing "the scientific lies and bogus
management rationalizations of the Forest Service and to project a
much tougher public stance toward the Bush-Rey Forest Service and
their pro-development agenda for national forests."

"Our primary strategy for accomplishing these objectives will be by
focusing as much public and media attention on timber industry
lobbyist Mark Rey and the profound damage he is now causing across
the national forest system," the memo said.

On Thursday, Kreilick said environmental groups lost all momentum in
the weeks and months immediately following the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks. "We have had a period of retrenchment in the environmental
movement," he said. "People were reluctant to criticize the Bush
administration for a period. But that is going to change."

The terrorist attacks also had a "pretty big effect on the
environmental group funding base," according to Kreilick. "For many
of the grass-roots environmental groups, it's been a tough and lean
time, and that also contributed to a lack of activity."

Environmentalists intend to "shine the spotlight" on Rey because he
is the Agriculture undersecretary who oversees the Forest Service. He
is also a former timber industry lobbyist and conservative
congressional staffer.

Since being appointed undersecretary by President Bush, Rey has
enacted policy changes "that betray the wishes of the American
public," Kreilick said. "We hear all this talk of analysis paralysis
in the Forest Service, for example. But these laws were enacted to
give the public more say in national forest management. It does take
more time. It does take more analysis and more Forest Service
personnel, but that's how we make sure that they are abiding by the
law.

"That's the public will."

Smith, the Missoula tree sitter, said environmentalists are
particularly unhappy with a recent federal court settlement allowing
salvage logging of burned trees in the Bitterroot National Forest.
They're also worried about Rey's proposal for "charter" forests,
where nongovernment groups assume responsibility for individual
forest tracts. And they want roadless areas to remain roadless.

Activism is effective, said Jay Buck, who was keeping Smith company
from the ground and sending rations skyward by rope. "It gets the
public to think about these issues," he said. "It gets people's
attention."

But it will not change Rey's mind.

"The only thing these protests will do," he said, "is to provoke a
response from the other side. People with alternative views will feel
compelled to balance the scale by doing the same, and I'm not sure
what salutary effect that will have on resolving these issues."

Rey said he asked the environmentalists who came to his office - one
group on Wednesday, another on Thursday, with a third scheduled for
Friday afternoon - to use their activism budgets to travel to the
offices of timber company presidents.

"It is tragic that there is no middle ground where people can meet on
these forest management issues," the undersecretary said. "I would
prefer that the first action be one of reaching across the divide of
disagreement, and the first reaction to be to shake that hand and see
if we cannot resolve some of these issues."

Reporter Sherry Devlin can be reached at 523-5268 or at
sdevlin@m....


__________________
If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention.
Are you going to the Protest Rally?


56042 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:14pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Sweet.............
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Hey guys/gals,
I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse this evening, and this is what I came up with:



I took the pic with my digital camera through my welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it was pretty cool.

Shawn

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


Attachment: (image/jpeg) solar eclipse.jpg [not stored]

56043 From: Jason B <the_anubis@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:19pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


here is mine, look at the blue lens flare...man do my eyes hurt..... DOH!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Hey guys/gals,
I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse this evening, and this is what I came up with:



I took the pic with my digital camera through my welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it was pretty cool.

Shawn

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


Attachment: (image/jpeg) solar eclipse.jpg [not stored]
Attachment: (image/jpeg) P0000009.JPG [not stored]

56044 From: Bill Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:32pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Sweet!
I took my 8 year old boy out there and let him peek at it through the welding helmet.
I instructed him to only look at it for a second, explaining it was still probably too bright. He thought it was pretty neat.
Nothing like the expanse of space and other planets and stars to put his tiny little world in perspective....
Then I made him pick up the dog poop....... I think he liked the eclipse better.....

I think it's a nice pic. Good job!



Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Hey guys/gals,
I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse this evening, and this is what I came up with:



I took the pic with my digital camera through my welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it was pretty cool.

Shawn

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


Attachment: (image/jpeg) solar eclipse.jpg [not stored]

56045 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:22pm
Subject: RE: Re: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm


BLM (Bureau of Land Management) lands have always been OPEN...........
there's simply the normal "FIRE RESTRICTIONS" we see every year. NO OPEN
FIRES, NO CHARCOAL OR WOOD FIRES.

Hopefully everyone "plays the game" re restrictions and/or closures AND we
get rain soon. If we abuse these directives the agencies are more likely to
not "reopen" areas.

State Trust Lands are still CLOSED.

Forest Service Lands are for the most part closed............ check with
your local ranger district for closures.

The FIRE restrictions are statewide.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mt_b [mailto:mt_b@y...]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:24 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm
>
>
> So can we actually be *on* the land...as long as there is no fire or
> smoking? Or is this a No Admitance policy?
>
> --- In az_vjc@y..., linda luik <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Thanks Gary!
> > Linda
> >
> > ---------------------
> >
> > BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000
> > BLM Arizona - Fire Restrictions
> > The Bureau of Land Management has placed fire restrictions on
> all
> > of the 11.6 million acres of BLM land in Arizona. These restrictions
> > include:
> >
> > a.. On Mohave County's Hualapai Mountain Park and other BLM
> > lands in northwestern Arizona overseen by the Kingman Field Office,
> no
> > open fires are allowed. This includes campfires, barbecue grills
> using
> > charcoal or wood or any other use of open fires.
> > b.. On the remaining BLM-managed lands statewide, fires are
> > allowed only in developed camping and picnic areas. Allowable
> practices
> > there include the use of charcoal in designated or commercially
> > manufactured grills and propane and petroleum-fueled stoves,
> lanterns or
> > heating devices.
> > c.. Smoking is allowed only in developed recreation sites,
> > inside buildings or vehicles or while stopped in an area cleared of
> all
> > flammable materials.
> > d.. Fireworks are illegal on all Arizona public lands.
> > Restriction violations are punishable by a fine of up to
> $1,000 or
> > a year in prison or both.
> >
> > These restrictions are in place due to exceptionally dry
> > conditions and extreme fire danger throughout the western U.S.
> Please do
> > your part and respect all restrictions. Thank you.
> >
> > For the most up-to-date fire restriction information, please
> call
> > (602) 417-9512, or toll-free 1-877-864-6985. You may also access the
> > "Fire Information" page on the Southwest Area Web Site at:
> > http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire for information regarding all lands in
> > Arizona and New Mexico, including BLM public lands.
> >
> > Field Office Phone Number Restrictions?
> > Arizona Strip (435) 688-3200 Yes Order
> > Phoenix (623) 580-5500 Yes Order
> > Kingman (928) 692-4400 Yes Order
> > Lake Havasu (928) 505-1200 Yes Order
> > Safford (928) 348-4400 Yes Order
> > Tucson (520) 258-7200 Yes Order
> > Yuma (928) 317-3200 Yes Order
> >
> >
> >
> > Search | Browse | Home | FAQs | Comments | Disclaimer
> > News | Information | Outdoor Recreation | What We Do | Directory
> >
> > This is a U.S. Government Computer System. Before continuing,
> please
> > read this Disclaimer and Privacy Statement.
> >
> >
> > Site Created by
> > Arizona Bureau of Land Management
> > Send Web Site inquiries to the Webmaster
> >
> > Bureau of Land Management
> > Arizona State Office
> > PO Box 45155
> > 222 N. Central Avenue
> > Phoenix, AZ 85004
> > Phone:(602) 417-9200
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gary MacLaren wrote:
> > >
> > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain)
> > > Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


56046 From: Mike Golden <mgolden@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:29pm
Subject: WANTED: 31x10.5s


Wanted: A set of used 31x10.5x15" tires to put on my XJ. Just got the
3" lift and am itching to put some bigger tires on it. I have a set of
used 32x11.5s BFG M/Ts on my Blazer with 75% tread on two, and like 35%
tread on the other two that I'd be willing to trade if anyone wants to
step up a size.

Thanks.
Mike
--
What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth? Judging from realistic
simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog,
we can assume it will be pretty bad. --- Dave Barry


56047 From: AzVJC Website <trmn8rjn98@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:32pm
Subject: [FS] AA bellhousing & NP 435 & Bronco Dana 20


Price: $800 obo

Contact: trmn8rjn98@aol.com

Hi I am getting ready to swap an auto in so you can see &; drive the complete setup. It has a hydralic clutch setup &; is a real nice setup if you are looking for a crawler stick setup. 6.61 first gear &; the bronco dana 20 has a lower low range than Jeep (I believe it is about 2.42 or so). This jeep really crawls even with 3.55 gears &; 33's will idle up hillclimbs.
I am also open to offers for trades or part trades. looking for a nice set of spice seats (cloth preferred) best top sunrider in spice &; other stuff just ask.
John


John Norton


56048 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:43pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar eclipse (pic)


"here is mine, look at the blue lens flare...man do my eyes hurt..... DOH!!!!!"

Jason,
I tried the same thing! Then when I pulled the camera down and looked back up to it "through the helmet" I finally put 2 and 2 together.

That flare off the lens looks cool though!!!

Later,
Shawn


56049 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:45pm
Subject: Re: [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Bill,
We actually had half the neighborhood looking at it through my helmet!! Funny what can bring people together. My 6 year old daughter was pretty amazed by the whole thing also.

Later,
Shawn
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Mish
To: AZVJC ; Shawn Passmore
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Sweet!
I took my 8 year old boy out there and let him peek at it through the welding helmet.
I instructed him to only look at it for a second, explaining it was still probably too bright. He thought it was pretty neat.
Nothing like the expanse of space and other planets and stars to put his tiny little world in perspective....
Then I made him pick up the dog poop....... I think he liked the eclipse better.....

I think it's a nice pic. Good job!



Bill Mish
1955 Willys CJ3B
----- Original Message -----
From: Shawn Passmore
To: AZVJC
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] Solar Eclipse (pic)


Hey guys/gals,
I was trying to get a picture of the solar eclipse this evening, and this is what I came up with:



I took the pic with my digital camera through my welding helmet lens. Not the best but I thought it was pretty cool.

Shawn

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.


Attachment: (image/jpeg) solar eclipse.jpg [not stored]

56050 From: Shawn Passmore <smpassmore@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:46pm
Subject: [OT] Solar eclipse


oooops, sorry about sending the pic out again..
My bad.

Shawn


56051 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:50pm
Subject: yahoo groups


I am still able to send messages to all my yahoo groups, (they appear at the sites) but not receiving individual emails as my account is set up.

HELP!!

Thomas Roberts
78 Cherokee WT
Gilbert, Arizona

Don't complain because 85% of people don't care and the rest think you deserve it. (to paraphrase Mark Twain)