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Hunter
08-25-2007, 10:00 PM
This story was originally posted back in Dec of 2001 over on the old AZVJC website. While the night itself was a quite the ordeal, the story has served as a timeless lesson to show how fast things can go wrong on the trail.... even when you think it will be a "short trip". I ended up using just about every piece of gear I brought with me. Read, enjoy, and laugh, but take note of the serious nature of the article. Be prepared and never take anything for granted.




Ok, I am telling this so people will see the importance of being prepared.
Hopefully, by reading it, it will make your next trip a bit safer. And maybe
get a get a laugh out of it. I think in a week or two I might begin to laugh
myself. Maybe.

Last night, my girlfreind and I went up to Fourpeaks to go see some snow.
Innocent trip. What could happen? It is a graded road all the way up, be
there and back in 5 hours... No problem. What could go wrong? Thats what I
was thinking... so with that in mind, so I loaded up all my rescue stuff, my
shovels, Max-Ax, straps, and Hi-Lift, out of my rock buggy, "Big Ugly", into
my Land Cruiser and took off for the mountains. (Mind you, this is the first
time I have had my Land Cruiser offroad in over 2 years, but that is a longer
story)

So, I am on my way to the top, making good time, having a great time with
girlfreind. Ok, then comes the mouse. This furball darted out in front of
me and did that "headlight stop" right in front of me, I hit the brakes and
stopped. I think he is long gone in the bush and keep going, about 100 yards down the road,
my girlfreind is worried, "What if you hit him and his just hurt, I dont want
him to suffer". So, like a good guy I go back to look. (I have a heart for
small fuzzy things too). We get to the spot where the mouse was and we look.
he is long gone, and cant find him.I Hop back in, throw it in reverse to
turn the Crusier around on the trail and procede to back off a small concrete bridge.
My passenger rear tire is up on a small bank, my driver rear tire is sitting
below the lip of the concrete by about 1 foot. I am sitting on my leaf
spring.

Just a trip to the snow, what go wrong. Because of a mouse, I happend to
back off the only 8 foot span of concrete on a 18 friggin mile long trail.

Ya, I was not happy........

But I had my "stuff", thank God. Out came the Max- Ax, on goes the shovel
attachment, and out comes the Hi-lift. I start digging and lifting. I have
been stuck worse. Also had to dig out the jacket, got out my gloves and hat.
When I climbed it out, it was raining and
snowing.

Well, this is were things go from bad, to really, really
bad. In the process of digging out, another TJ came along, he didnt have
anything, not even a strap. But he was willing to help. Mostly they talked
to my girl freind as I dug and swore underneath my Cruiser. I was getting
close to getting out. I all had to do was place one more rock under the tire
and I was going to have the guy strap me out. (It was my strap, he didnt
have one) I have always hated working underneath a 4x4 when it is jacked up
by a Hi-lift. I have this fear of slipping and dropping on me. I was being
as careful as possible. Everybody was clear, in case the jack shot out, I
was doing good. I was slowly postiong the rock under the tire, trying to my
hands clear........

Then it happend...

The Jack slipped and the Land Cruiser came down on the rock. I thought I
was ok (that thought lasted about .2 nanoseconds) unitl I realised, that my
right index finger was pinned between a big rock and 33" General mud tire
attached to 5300 pound 4x4.. I kept my cool and told the guy to start
helping me dig. I would have had him use the Jack, but he didnt know how to
use one. This was not the time to give someone a lesson. The ground was
soft and digging was the quickest and simplest way to go. Soon, the rock
started dropping and the rear of the Cruiser sat on the bridge and I was able
to get my finger out. All in all, everyone figures I was under there for
about 20-30 seconds. My finger, was crushed. Nothing was broken but it
was literally squeeshed flat. I had on have leather gloves which is the only
thing that saved the sand and mud from removeing the skin from the bone.
Imagine 20 grit sand paper with a 5000 Lbs of presure. My girl freind
whipped out the first aid kit and I popped a bunch of Ibuprofren ( I have
no idea how to spell that ).

It took about 5 to 10 minutes for my finger to
start to fill back out. Literally, it looked like something out of a
cartoon. With in 30 minutes I could move my finger without much
restriction, and tonight I can sit here and type this with no problems. I
was way lucky. I used up a lot of prayer time on that one. We packed up and
we headed up to play in the snow.

This was supposed to be an easy easy trail, but, somehow I managed to end
up with the back of Cruiser of a concrete bridge and my finger pinned under
the tire. Ya, Murphy was there, I could smell him. The point of this is to
show, you never, NEVER know when it is going to hit the fan. I was lucky. I
had my gear. I was able to take care of my self. But I almost left with out
it. And God only knows how bad it could have been. Always take your stuff.
And if you done have any, GET IT.

I know in the past, people have past around the list of what to carry when
they go out. But I know alot of you dont for one reason or another. Take
this story to heart.
These things saved my ***, and finger,

*Hi-lift, tow strap, First Aid Kit, Max-Ax Muiltipurpose tool (or shovel and
stuff), Gloves, proper clothing. ( I was outside for almost an hour over
this, and we were getting snowed on)


I hope this helps, Take the story for what you want, a good humor story, or
a good lesson or both. By the way, the mouse, he was fine. He got away.

Best Regards
John K
"Hunter"

HighlandRubicon
08-25-2007, 10:37 PM
Interesting story John, thanks for sharing a very important point about off roading. You never know when you'll need that extra equipment.

Digger
08-25-2007, 10:50 PM
I can verify the importance of being prepared, I won't go into the situations, and mostly it was me helping out others in the outback. I was stunned to see many people on the CK run wearing flipflops and shorts, but I guess I'm in over kill mode when in the wilds.
I always take supplies for at least 3 days more than I plan on being out there. Never without a firearm, but venture out with just my dogs most of the time.
Let me ask this: if:
you should find yourself stranded with no way to communicate and need help, do you know what resources you have to summon help?
Remember a news story about 10 years ago when 2 young ladies got stuck in snow in the SUV? They were unable to signal for help, and ended up loosing there feet and fingers to frostbilte. When all they needed to do is burn the spare tire. The black smoke can be seen for miles.

GRUNT
08-26-2007, 12:21 AM
I concur... Not only my tools and parts but I bring food/water for two days. Toilet paper/matches/flint/mirror/poncho/rope/binos/iodine tabs/pocket strobe light. I also bring a medic bag(a little more than the average bear) I am looking into getting into HAM radio but I also have my GPS, Maps/compass, FRS radio. I admit I wore shorts to CK but I always wear shoes. In the winter it is jeans and hiking boots.... We could make a list all day but it is wise to take essentials. A handy thing is the instant cold or heat packs too... I'd like to take my WOOKIE but he doesn't fit in the YJ. :(
NOTE: The pocket strobe is a GREAT idea guys. It fits in your glove box and runs on a C battery. The thing about it is, if you are stranded you can be seen from quite some distance sunset, night or sunrise!!!!! Also if you get one of those silly taffic vests the cops wear, neon orange, you can be seen a mile away and they are mesh so you can wear it and not get overheated. Folds up tiny to fit in your junk.

Allen
08-26-2007, 01:43 AM
I agree Hunter! I've done the exact same thing....minus the mouse!

I was in Cali and decided to go up to Silverwood lake with my GF(at that time) . Left the highway at 3pm and headed in on a graded dirt road... a trail called Cleghorn. This trail is so cool because it has a graded dirt road and a 3.5 jeep trail that criss cross all the way there. While it was a 3 hour trip up the jeep trail, it only takes an hour on the dirt road. Somewhere just before the lake I made a small wrong turn. I realized it right away and decided that because the trail crested behind me I had to do a u-turn or back over the hill in reverse. I got half way around in my u-turn when I heard the belly pan hit somthing. I get out and look. My front tires are in the right rut in the trail. My rear tires in the left rut in the trail, belly pan is sitting on the center hump!! You get the picture?? Simple fix! High lift and a couple rocks!! Only NO ROCKS! I looked for 20 minutes for a darn rock! Whole darn hill is just DIRT. So I get out the shovel and start diging up enough dirt to fill the ruts under each tire. Meanwhile the sun is already setting and the GF has set up her camera to get some sunset pics:rolleyes: I finally got dirt under all 4 and give it a try! It starts out fine and then DIGS all the dirt out as the pan hits bottom again. So I jack each tire up again and this time I take the sledge and pack it in there!! Start it up and Vola!! comes right off and I'm pointing back going down the trail. It's after dark now so I get the GF to pack up her stuff and we drive on down to the lake. Went to go set up the tent and reallized I'd left the high lift, shovel and sledge sitting on the trail:o

Always be ready to spend 3 days offroad when you go for an hour!

You always need your tools!

No matter how big your jeep is, it's a mall cruiser if you dont have a strap and tow hooks!

If someone rolls their jeep you might need a lot more than a band-aid!

When in the desert a sidearm is never a bad thing! I keep mine loaded with one of CCI's snake shot rounds in the clip.... followed by hollowpoints ;)

CaptainMorgan
08-26-2007, 08:49 AM
Wow! I did that once in my old Ford 2wd in town...minus the finger OUCH!!!! I Hi-Lifted out, mind you this was all in town. I guess you really NEVER know when somehting like that will happen, if you did, you wouldnt do it. Glad your finger is ok now and it was a good story.

Antman
08-26-2007, 08:59 AM
I can verify the importance of being prepared,
Remember a news story about 10 years ago when 2 young ladies got stuck in snow in the SUV? They were unable to signal for help, and ended up loosing there feet and fingers to frostbilte. When all they needed to do is burn the spare tire. The black smoke can be seen for miles.


Those young ladies were lighting up some other stuff instead of the spare tire. If they hadn't been high,
they wouldn't have needed to find a secluded spot to light up and got stuck on a closed road. But, I'm
sure the law suits caused us tax payers to cough up a ton of money.

ROCRWLR
08-26-2007, 09:22 AM
I've only wheeled by my self once and will never do it again. 5 years ago in rocky point a friend and I took off down the beach heading north from cholla bay. we were only going to be gone a couple of hours and only going over to crab cove about 5 miles. well we continued down the beach and soon we were 25 miles from town. all we took was a small ice chest with 6 or 8 water bottles. about the time my friend said "we should head back" the jeep sank in what looked like dry mud. we walked 5 miles back to a little fishing compound where we had seen fishermen earlier. when we got there it was deserted. we stayed there until 3 guys showed up at 1:00 in the morning and paid them 120.00 to take us back to town, got back at 3:30. we had been gone 14 and a half hours and our wifes were not happy. we went to get the jeep about 9:00 in the morning and it took 3 hours to get there and return with the jeep. getting un-stuck with a strap and another vehicle took less than 10 minnutes. we ran out of water before we got to the fishing compound and were drinking the muddy water out of the bottom of the ice chest. even with a high lift jack and shovels we would not have been able to get the jeep out without a pull. to walk back would have been another 20 miles with no water and it was over 100 degrees during the day. this was on columbus day weekend in october.

Dean

vollunteer
08-26-2007, 12:08 PM
what ever happened to LIVING ON THE EDGE? just kidding ! murphys law will slap you in the back of the head when you least expect it.and it will hurt......

mingoglia
08-26-2007, 02:27 PM
I have an appropriate amount of chain and winch line extensions I have with me at all times in case I have to use my hi-lift as a winch. Yeah, I have an electric winch, but it's nice to have a backup. If I were in a situation and had to use either and didn't have a winch point my plan is to bury my spare tire in the ground and use it as an anchor. I encourage everyone to at least understand the process of winching with a hi-lift. I demonstrated this actually in the recovery workshop I co-hosted last year with Travis, Jeff, and Danno.

Mike

Hunter
08-26-2007, 08:48 PM
Mike,
Good points. It always cracks me up on the trail, when I see a guy pull up and say

"I got a winch. I got it. "
" Man, that winch looks brand new, did you just get it?"
"Yup, its my first time ever useing it."
"Do you know how to use it?"
"Of course, its simple, in and out... "

This is more or less an exact quote of a conversation I had with a guy on the back way into Crown King, somewhere around 1997. I remember it well as he had one of the bad 9000 Warn winches with the cooling fins.. they were all the rage then.

He was trying to pull someone up the "escalotor". About 10 minutes after this exchange, he broke the cable and whipped over his Toyota pick up, wasteing his windsheild. Yeah, I laughed. Practice and learn, the trail is not the place to "try something".

Ironicaly, in my case, I had a winch. Yup, warn 9000... Useless as the only thing in front of me was sheer rock wall in fornt of me and either way. Which, for the other end of the spectrum, was a great example of not to depend on it.

outdoorsman
08-27-2007, 03:06 PM
Remember a news story about 10 years ago when 2 young ladies got stuck in snow in the SUV? They were unable to signal for help, and ended up loosing there feet and fingers to frostbilte. When all they needed to do is burn the spare tire. The black smoke can be seen for miles.


Those young ladies were lighting up some other stuff instead of the spare tire. If they hadn't been high,
they wouldn't have needed to find a secluded spot to light up and got stuck on a closed road. But, I'm
sure the law suits caused us tax payers to cough up a ton of money.


Those girls are idiots. Our family used to go ice fishing every year up there and now they close down the road because some girls decided to smoke some stuff. It's still accessible by snow mobile and if the snow isn't too deep 4x4 w/ chains can make it back there. Now we're stuck fishing on the reservation at Sunrise Lake if the snow is too deep.

tomfooshee
08-27-2007, 05:08 PM
You can always tell the people involved in Search & Rescue. They bring all their stuff on even the smallest trips. Usually end up helping someone else but in this case John was able to save himself.

Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales
08-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Great story......