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55977 From: azcj <azcj@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:51am
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I've always bought from them directly. I don't think I've ever seen
their products offered anywhere else.
-Scott E.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just
normally
> buy directly from MORE ??
>
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
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55978 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:10am
Subject: [FS] Wanted: 33x12.50 BFG's
Price: any
Contact: jeepski@hotmail.com
atleast more than 60% tread left
Tim Jablonski
55979 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 7:25am
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
Not sure if anyone stocks their products. I bought my body/motor mount lift directly from M.O.R.E.
Steven
55980 From: cj4rox <cj4rox@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:26am
Subject: Re: [FS] Wanted: 33x12.50 BFG's
> I've got 4 that are off my truck.
2 of them are in good shape with better than 50% Tread left
The front 2 have worn unevenly the tread vaires from about 3/8 to
50% thread (good spares)
$100.00
Let me know if you want to come see them
Dan Siegel
Dan@s...
602-568-4333
55981 From: Jon Loveless-DSL <jloveless@d...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:47am
Subject: Mike Chatfield
Does anyone have Mike Chatfields email address? The AZVJC website is down and I cant locate it.
Jon
Jon Loveless
480-816-0963
jloveless@directvinternet.com
jloveless@delphi-tech.com
55982 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:00pm
Subject: [FS] Need paddle tires
Price: Depends on condition
Contact: Tom Bethsold 602/628-6765
Looking for two 16.50 paddle tires in good to excellent condition. Being mounted on 5 x 5.5 rims would make them even more appealing.
Tom Bethsold
55983 From: Timothy W. Tuttle <tim@t...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2329
Many of the smaller off-road shops can order their products.
You'll end up paying the same amount, but you'll allow your
favorite off road shop to make a few bucks.
Tim Tuttle
-----Original Message-----
From: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:04 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2329
There is 1 message in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: M.O.R.E products
From: "azcj" <azcj@y...>
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:51:19 -0000
From: "azcj" <azcj@y...>
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I've always bought from them directly. I don't think I've ever seen
their products offered anywhere else.
-Scott E.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just
normally
> buy directly from MORE ??
>
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
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55984 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: [FS] SNUG TOP BED COVER
Price: 500.00
Contact: SCOTT MC MILLAN 602-980-1158
I HAVE A NEW SNUG TOP BED COVER FOR 99-02 FORD SUPER DUTY LONG BED. THIS COVER WAS ONLY ON FOR ABOUT A WEEK HAVE ALL PARTS. NEW THIS COVER IS 890.00 DOLLARS
COVER IS BLACK BUT CAN BE PAINTED ALL I NEED IS A PANIT CODE AND PROBABLY COST ABOUT 100.00 TO MATCH THE PAINT
SCOTT MCMILLAN
55985 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: Re: re-introducing... me!
I fail to see how a 4" lift should cause your motor to tilt. That is,
unless you've lowered your t-case as part of the lift installation.
If this is the case, I wouldn't worry about it. I think the YJ motor
mounts deteriorate faster on their own than any extra wear caused
by lowering the t-case and tilting the motor.
Also, if you're going to replace the tranny mount, you should also
replace the torque arm bushings.
-Roger
intertwingled wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I should reintroduce myself: I used to be on this
> list but I fell off the edge of it when I switched providers
> a while back. My name is Anthony Nemmer, I own a 94 YJ, all
> work done by Flyin' Hi (and I have to say that for the most
> part, they did a good job.) I am a perl programmer but I
> am currently not working at the present.
>
> Here are some pics of my jeep, along with some photos of
> me and Randal Schwartz (well-known perl personality) having
> lunch at H@@TERs. Randal took all the pics, including
> those of my jeep:
>
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~intertwingled/myjeep/
>
> Also, I have a question. I recently discovered that
> the left engine mount on my YJ is gone, the rubber has
> disintegrated, and I am replacing that and also the
> transmission mount (the right engine mount appears
> to be OK.) My question is, I have a four inch suspension
> lift, and that causes the engine to tilt up a bit.
> Will that be any problem when I put the new engine and
> tranny mounts on?
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony Nemmer
>
> --
> even the safest course is fraught with peril
>
>
>
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55986 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: HEI for Ford
Gentlemen;
I was just give a Ford 302 that I am going to rebuild and put in my Jeep. It
should fit very well in front of my Ford NP435 trans. That means that some
time in the future my 250+hp 4.2L six will be up for sale. But that is a
future thing. I am in the process of lining up the things I want on this 302
and one of them is an HEI distributor that I want to build my self. Does
anyone know what donor GM I should look for and what drive gear I should
use?
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
55987 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:09pm
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I bought my Shackle Reversal Direct from MORE they where very nice to deal
with.
Ed
Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just normally
buy directly from MORE ??
Thanks,
Fred
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55988 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: theft deterent
hey all I just noticed that some creep tried to get into my jeep by way of driver side strip molding via screwdriver, can anyone recommend a good theft deterent. I don't know if its new or old but it bothers the heck out of me. I was thinking a removable steering wheel? alarm? big big dog?
BTW
i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
94xjoe
55989 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
Sorry, no tips on theft deterrent. But I just *cough*washed*cough*
the jeep in hopes of rain too! Hope it works;P
Scott Maiden
>
>
> BTW
> i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
>
> 94xjoe
55990 From: parajeeper <pwhhl@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
I use the Autolok on my brake pedal. About 60 bucks from Checkers
http://www.unbreakable.com/
I don't lock the doors to save from damage to the windows and softop
and I leave nothing of value on the car.
If they really want it (pros) they will get it, but the brake lock
keeps the kids and amateur goons from stealing the vehicle.
Beleive me this works, I lived in LA all of last year and met two car
thevies that got pretty angry when they couldn't defeat this lock
short of power tools.
I also use a home brew engine cutoff switch as backup.
55991 From: mirau <mirau@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:46pm
Subject: Hard top air flow question
I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory hard
top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
safari top users have a similar problem?
I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such a
problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
makes a difference.
Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
Thanks,
Michelle
55992 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Mike Chatfield
Should be back up now.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon Loveless-DSL" <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> Does anyone have Mike Chatfields email address? The AZVJC website is
> down and I can't locate it.
>
> Jon
>
>
> Jon Loveless
> 480-816-0963
> jloveless@d...
> jloveless@d...
55993 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:52pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
I washed my Jeep last week too.. not a drop of water, but it has
accumulated alot of dust. :(
This week I'm leaving it out of the garage with only a bikini top...
maybe this will tempt the rain gremlins....
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Sorry, no tips on theft deterrent. But I just *cough*washed*cough*
> the jeep in hopes of rain too! Hope it works;P
>
> Scott Maiden
> >
55994 From: Brad Gailey <dunefever1@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy (toys by troy)
Nick,
I talked to Troy the other day and he said he
would provide some type of a group buy discount.
However since they are about $70 normally I don't
think you will get him down to $35 each. I have Troys
on both my diffs. Also it appears that his gaurds are
much stronger than 4X doctors. Just my fellings
Brad
--- Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...> wrote:
> I could have SWORN I saw these things somewhere for
> like $35. I would
> consider looking around a little before you pay $50
> for one... Have you
> contacted troy and toys by troy? I think thats
> where I saw them cheaper.
> And since David W. ran into his wife the other
> night, I think Troy might be
> more than happy to increase his clientele DB :)
>
> Would someone like ME to call him on monday and get
> prices on a group buy?
> I know him, and might be able to twist his arm a
> little!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> -----------------------
> My Jeep Pictures -
> http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>;
> "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Michael Wixom"
> <h8pvmnt@h...>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
>
> > Um, guys, reread this. The discount is $10-$15,
> not the price.
> >
> > They are still good diff guards
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > > From: "chris benner"
> <offroadfun@t...>
> > > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 05:26:29 -0700
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Michael Wixom"
> > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are
> $15 each?
> > >
>
http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > >
> > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no
> problem..
> > > sign me up.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > >> Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on
> 4xdoctor diff guards, we
> need
> > >> to order ten to get the discount which is about
> 10-15.00 per unit.
> Check
> > >> his website below for info.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wixom
> > >> 85 CJ-7
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)"
> <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > >> To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > >> Subject: Diff Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Mike,
> > >>
> > >> I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10
> people to buy. I have 3
> so
> > >> far.
> > >> I will post the info on my site over the
> weekend.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jason LaLiberty
> [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > >> To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > >> Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jason LaLiberty
> > >> 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > >> 480-221-9298
> > >> www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jason LaLiberty
> [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > >> To: Michael Wixom
> > >> Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > >> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Mike,
> > >>
> > >> I am going to ask them tomorrow about including
> the diff guards too.
> > >>
> > >> I will let you know.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason LaLiberty
> > >> 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > >> 480-221-9298
> > >> www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Michael Wixom
> [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > >> To: jaylalib
> > >> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What product is this on, I am looking for diff
> guards.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wixom
> > >> 85 CJ-7
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > >> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > >> Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors
> Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting
> a group buy together
> > >>> for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if
> you are interested.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> www.fourxdoctor.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jason
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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55995 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:15pm
Subject: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm
BLM Arizona - Fire Restrictions
The Bureau of Land Management has placed fire restrictions on all of the 11.6 million acres of BLM land in Arizona. These restrictions include:
On Mohave County's Hualapai Mountain Park and other BLM lands in northwestern Arizona overseen by the Kingman Field Office, no open fires are allowed. This includes campfires, barbecue grills using charcoal or wood or any other use of open fires.
On the remaining BLM-managed lands statewide, fires are allowed only in developed camping and picnic areas. Allowable practices there include the use of charcoal in designated or commercially manufactured grills and propane and petroleum-fueled stoves, lanterns or heating devices.
Smoking is allowed only in developed recreation sites, inside buildings or vehicles or while stopped in an area cleared of all flammable materials.
Fireworks are illegal on all Arizona public lands.
Restriction violations are punishable by a fine of up to $1,000 or a year in prison or both.
These restrictions are in place due to exceptionally dry conditions and extreme fire danger throughout the western U.S. Please do your part and respect all restrictions. Thank you.
For the most up-to-date fire restriction information, please call (602) 417-9512, or toll-free 1-877-864-6985. You may also access the "Fire Information" page on the Southwest Area Web Site at: http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire for information regarding all lands in Arizona and New Mexico, including BLM public lands.
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55996 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:33pm
Subject: RE: Letter to Bush opposing Roadless Rule
I sent a thank you to Stump and Heyworth and letters to all the others (except Pastor who is a waste) asking why they did not sign. I will send on the letter to the White House. Congress.org makes it pretty easy. Jim F.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
http://www.rockrats.org/
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:02 AM
To: mccullen@cableaz.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Letter to Bush opposing Roadless Rule
MORE..............
"copy" & "paste" this letter onto a new letter from you individually.......... write a sentence or paragraph at the bottom to make it "YOURS" and send today!
If we keep up the good work they will have to soon see "we mean business"................ s.
Attached (below) is a letter signed by Thune (SD), Cubin (WY), Hefley, McInnis, Schaffer, and Tancredo (CO), Osborne (NE) and 36 other Representatives to President Bush asking him to oppose attempts to codify or administratively implement the Roadless Area Conservation Rule.
The enviros are working hard to pass legislation that will enact the
Roadless Rule, and I encourage you to thank your Representative for signing this important letter. (Note if your representative has not signed onto this letter, ask him why not. rt)
June 5, 2002
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear President Bush:
We are writing to express our strong opposition to any attempts at this time to codify or administratively implement the Roadless Area Conservation Rule, and we applaud your leadership on this complex issue.
Mr. President, as your Administration continues to formulate an alternative Roadless rule, we urge you to diligently seek out meaningful public input, particularly from the local citizens most directly affected by the process. We also hope that you will continue to work with a broad array of stakeholders, including environmentalists, recreational enthusiasts, state and local foresters, the forests products industry, and other interested parties, in search of a consensus resolution to this divisive issue. Finally, we urge you to carefully weigh the implications of this rule’s impact on our ability to protect at-risk lands from catastrophic wildfire.
As you know, when Federal District Court Judge Edward Lodge blocked implementation of the Roadless Area Conservation Rule last year, he described the rule as "fundamentally flawed" and the rulemaking process as "grossly inadequate." He confirmed that "a Band-aid approach to something this controversial may mask or obscure the symptoms for political purposes but does not address the ‘hard look’ analysis for a cure as required by NEPA [National Environmental Policy Act] before environmentally altering actions are put into effect."
The Court validated what elected officials, local communities and forest user groups had argued throughout the process. Specifically, the Court clearly and correctly pointed out that the previous rule: 1) violated environmental laws; 2) disregarded numerous public notice and comment requirements; and 3) ignored the basic understanding of due process when developing and implementing the rule. Despite these findings, we are concerned that various environmental groups and certain members of Congress continue to push for implementation of the rule.
This case needs to be carefully considered in the courts, and appropriate steps must be taken to ensure that procedural and environmental laws are respected. Any attempt to codify the legally enjoined rule would be tantamount to a Congressional end-run of landmark environmental laws like NEPA.
Thank you for your leadership and your commitment on the issue. We appreciate your recognition of the importance of this process to citizens and communities in all corners of the country, and look forward to working with you in the future on this matter.
Sincerely,
John Thune (SD-AL) Richard Pombo (CA-11)
Scott McInnis (CO-03) William M. Thomas (CA-21)
W.J. (Billy) Tauzin (LA-03) Don Young (AK-AL)
Jack Kingston (GA-01) Gary G. Miller (CA-41)
Barbara Cubin (WY-AL) Mark Green (WI-08)
Doc Hastings (WA-04) Greg Walden (OR-02)
John Boozman (AR-03) Michael K. Simpson (ID-02)
C.L. "Butch" Otter (ID-01) John Cooksey (LA-05)
Jim Gibbons (NV-02) Chris Cannon (UT-03)
George Radanovich (CA-19) Mac Thornberry (TX-13)
Bob Stump (AZ-03) Bob Schaffer (CO-04)
George R. Nethercutt, Jr. (WA-05) Charles H. Taylor (NC-11)
John Peterson (PA-05) John E. Sununu (NH-01)
Jo Ann Emerson (MO-08) Thomas G. Tancredo (CO-06)
Walter Jones (NC-03) Tom Osborne (NE-03)
Mike Ross (AR-04) Dennis R. Rehberg (MT-AL)
Jerry Lewis (CA-40) Ken Calvert (CA-43)
Joel Hefley (CO-05) Duncan Hunter (CA-52)
Wally Herger (CA-02) Joe Skeen (NM-02)
Randy "Duke" Cunningham (CA-51) John J. Duncan, Jr. (TN-02)
John T. Doolittle (CA-04) Elton Gallagly (CA-23)
J.D. Hayworth (AZ-06) Ric Keller (FL-08)
Kevin Brady (TX-08)
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55997 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:48am
Subject: Re: Re: Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
Thanks..now I just need to get going on the rear and my axles. Finally got
a line on the front D60 to match the one I have for the rear. :)
Sharky
55998 From: chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:49pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of people
openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot of our
members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase we want to
learn and enjoy offroading with others.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> Michael,
>
> For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original post.
> As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone would
> think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for $10. Hell,
> you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers for that
> price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would knock
> $1-~$15 off the selling price.
>
> Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
> Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would be $15 -
> "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual price
> less
> the discount? Whatever dude..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
>
> > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you cant read
> but
> the
> > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is about
> 10.00-15.00
> > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like that.
> >
> > Mike Wixom
> > 85 CJ-7
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Michael Wixom"
> > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >
> >
> > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > >
> > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> > > sign me up.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor diff guards,
> we
> > need
> > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00 per unit.
> > Check
> > > > his website below for info.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to buy. I
> have 3
> > so
> > > > far.
> > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > > > To: Michael Wixom
> > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff guards
> too.
> > > >
> > > > I will let you know.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > To: jaylalib
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group buy
> together
> > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> interested.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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>
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>
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55999 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:56pm
Subject: Re:theft deterent
How is everyones view on this http://www.autospeed.com/A_0059/P_1/article.html
good?bad?ugly? eh?
94xjoe
56000 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:08pm
Subject: test
test
56001 From: tjsr4r0cks <tjsr4r0cks@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Hard top air flow question
My owners manual states not to operate the vehicle with only the rear
soft top window removed. Exhaust fume backdraft is the reason.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "mirau" <mirau@h...> wrote:
> I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
> windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory
hard
> top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
> windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
> exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
>
> Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
> rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
> because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
> safari top users have a similar problem?
>
> I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
> time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such
a
> problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
> makes a difference.
>
> Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michelle
55977 From: azcj <azcj@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 9:51am
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I've always bought from them directly. I don't think I've ever seen
their products offered anywhere else.
-Scott E.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just
normally
> buy directly from MORE ??
>
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
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55978 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:10am
Subject: [FS] Wanted: 33x12.50 BFG's
Price: any
Contact: jeepski@hotmail.com
atleast more than 60% tread left
Tim Jablonski
55979 From: <scamp89245@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 7:25am
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
Not sure if anyone stocks their products. I bought my body/motor mount lift directly from M.O.R.E.
Steven
55980 From: cj4rox <cj4rox@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:26am
Subject: Re: [FS] Wanted: 33x12.50 BFG's
> I've got 4 that are off my truck.
2 of them are in good shape with better than 50% Tread left
The front 2 have worn unevenly the tread vaires from about 3/8 to
50% thread (good spares)
$100.00
Let me know if you want to come see them
Dan Siegel
Dan@s...
602-568-4333
55981 From: Jon Loveless-DSL <jloveless@d...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:47am
Subject: Mike Chatfield
Does anyone have Mike Chatfields email address? The AZVJC website is down and I cant locate it.
Jon
Jon Loveless
480-816-0963
jloveless@directvinternet.com
jloveless@delphi-tech.com
55982 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:00pm
Subject: [FS] Need paddle tires
Price: Depends on condition
Contact: Tom Bethsold 602/628-6765
Looking for two 16.50 paddle tires in good to excellent condition. Being mounted on 5 x 5.5 rims would make them even more appealing.
Tom Bethsold
55983 From: Timothy W. Tuttle <tim@t...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: RE: Digest Number 2329
Many of the smaller off-road shops can order their products.
You'll end up paying the same amount, but you'll allow your
favorite off road shop to make a few bucks.
Tim Tuttle
-----Original Message-----
From: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:04 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 2329
There is 1 message in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: M.O.R.E products
From: "azcj" <azcj@y...>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:51:19 -0000
From: "azcj" <azcj@y...>
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I've always bought from them directly. I don't think I've ever seen
their products offered anywhere else.
-Scott E.
--- In az_vjc@y..., "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just
normally
> buy directly from MORE ??
>
>
> Thanks,
> Fred
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55984 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:18pm
Subject: [FS] SNUG TOP BED COVER
Price: 500.00
Contact: SCOTT MC MILLAN 602-980-1158
I HAVE A NEW SNUG TOP BED COVER FOR 99-02 FORD SUPER DUTY LONG BED. THIS COVER WAS ONLY ON FOR ABOUT A WEEK HAVE ALL PARTS. NEW THIS COVER IS 890.00 DOLLARS
COVER IS BLACK BUT CAN BE PAINTED ALL I NEED IS A PANIT CODE AND PROBABLY COST ABOUT 100.00 TO MATCH THE PAINT
SCOTT MCMILLAN
55985 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: Re: re-introducing... me!
I fail to see how a 4" lift should cause your motor to tilt. That is,
unless you've lowered your t-case as part of the lift installation.
If this is the case, I wouldn't worry about it. I think the YJ motor
mounts deteriorate faster on their own than any extra wear caused
by lowering the t-case and tilting the motor.
Also, if you're going to replace the tranny mount, you should also
replace the torque arm bushings.
-Roger
intertwingled wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I should reintroduce myself: I used to be on this
> list but I fell off the edge of it when I switched providers
> a while back. My name is Anthony Nemmer, I own a 94 YJ, all
> work done by Flyin' Hi (and I have to say that for the most
> part, they did a good job.) I am a perl programmer but I
> am currently not working at the present.
>
> Here are some pics of my jeep, along with some photos of
> me and Randal Schwartz (well-known perl personality) having
> lunch at H@@TERs. Randal took all the pics, including
> those of my jeep:
>
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~intertwingled/myjeep/
>
> Also, I have a question. I recently discovered that
> the left engine mount on my YJ is gone, the rubber has
> disintegrated, and I am replacing that and also the
> transmission mount (the right engine mount appears
> to be OK.) My question is, I have a four inch suspension
> lift, and that causes the engine to tilt up a bit.
> Will that be any problem when I put the new engine and
> tranny mounts on?
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony Nemmer
>
> --
> even the safest course is fraught with peril
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
55986 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:28pm
Subject: HEI for Ford
Gentlemen;
I was just give a Ford 302 that I am going to rebuild and put in my Jeep. It
should fit very well in front of my Ford NP435 trans. That means that some
time in the future my 250+hp 4.2L six will be up for sale. But that is a
future thing. I am in the process of lining up the things I want on this 302
and one of them is an HEI distributor that I want to build my self. Does
anyone know what donor GM I should look for and what drive gear I should
use?
Regards
Randy Siade
Engineering Manager
Unisys Unigen Operations
6161 W. Erie Street
Chandler, AZ 85226
Phone 480 783-5911
Fax 480 783-5960
Cell 602-329-0699
randy.siade@u...
55987 From: CoyotEddie <coyoteddie@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:09pm
Subject: Re: M.O.R.E products
I bought my Shackle Reversal Direct from MORE they where very nice to deal
with.
Ed
Anyone know of anywhere that sells M.O.R.E. products, or do we just normally
buy directly from MORE ??
Thanks,
Fred
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55988 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:10pm
Subject: theft deterent
hey all I just noticed that some creep tried to get into my jeep by way of driver side strip molding via screwdriver, can anyone recommend a good theft deterent. I don't know if its new or old but it bothers the heck out of me. I was thinking a removable steering wheel? alarm? big big dog?
BTW
i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
94xjoe
55989 From: bermboy2000 <bermboy@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:18pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
Sorry, no tips on theft deterrent. But I just *cough*washed*cough*
the jeep in hopes of rain too! Hope it works;P
Scott Maiden
>
>
> BTW
> i just (gulp!) washed my jeep, does anyone see any clouds yet?
>
> 94xjoe
55990 From: parajeeper <pwhhl@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:36pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
I use the Autolok on my brake pedal. About 60 bucks from Checkers
http://www.unbreakable.com/
I don't lock the doors to save from damage to the windows and softop
and I leave nothing of value on the car.
If they really want it (pros) they will get it, but the brake lock
keeps the kids and amateur goons from stealing the vehicle.
Beleive me this works, I lived in LA all of last year and met two car
thevies that got pretty angry when they couldn't defeat this lock
short of power tools.
I also use a home brew engine cutoff switch as backup.
55991 From: mirau <mirau@h...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:46pm
Subject: Hard top air flow question
I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory hard
top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
safari top users have a similar problem?
I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such a
problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
makes a difference.
Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
Thanks,
Michelle
55992 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Mike Chatfield
Should be back up now.
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "Jon Loveless-DSL" <jloveless@d...> wrote:
> Does anyone have Mike Chatfields email address? The AZVJC website is
> down and I can't locate it.
>
> Jon
>
>
> Jon Loveless
> 480-816-0963
> jloveless@d...
> jloveless@d...
55993 From: az_jeeper_mike <Mike@A...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:52pm
Subject: Re: theft deterent
I washed my Jeep last week too.. not a drop of water, but it has
accumulated alot of dust. :(
This week I'm leaving it out of the garage with only a bikini top...
maybe this will tempt the rain gremlins....
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., "bermboy2000" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Sorry, no tips on theft deterrent. But I just *cough*washed*cough*
> the jeep in hopes of rain too! Hope it works;P
>
> Scott Maiden
> >
55994 From: Brad Gailey <dunefever1@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 2:57pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy (toys by troy)
Nick,
I talked to Troy the other day and he said he
would provide some type of a group buy discount.
However since they are about $70 normally I don't
think you will get him down to $35 each. I have Troys
on both my diffs. Also it appears that his gaurds are
much stronger than 4X doctors. Just my fellings
Brad
--- Nick Gasmena <NickG@4...> wrote:
> I could have SWORN I saw these things somewhere for
> like $35. I would
> consider looking around a little before you pay $50
> for one... Have you
> contacted troy and toys by troy? I think thats
> where I saw them cheaper.
> And since David W. ran into his wife the other
> night, I think Troy might be
> more than happy to increase his clientele DB :)
>
> Would someone like ME to call him on monday and get
> prices on a group buy?
> I know him, and might be able to twist his arm a
> little!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Nick Gasmena - nickg@4...
> -----------------------
> My Jeep Pictures -
> http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/View.asp?U=1637
> My 4x4 Site - Http://www.4x4jeep.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>;
> "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Michael Wixom"
> <h8pvmnt@h...>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
>
> > Um, guys, reread this. The discount is $10-$15,
> not the price.
> >
> > They are still good diff guards
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > > From: "chris benner"
> <offroadfun@t...>
> > > Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 05:26:29 -0700
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "Michael Wixom"
> > > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are
> $15 each?
> > >
>
http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > >
> > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no
> problem..
> > > sign me up.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > >> Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on
> 4xdoctor diff guards, we
> need
> > >> to order ten to get the discount which is about
> 10-15.00 per unit.
> Check
> > >> his website below for info.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wixom
> > >> 85 CJ-7
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)"
> <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > >> To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > >> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > >> Subject: Diff Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Mike,
> > >>
> > >> I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10
> people to buy. I have 3
> so
> > >> far.
> > >> I will post the info on my site over the
> weekend.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jason LaLiberty
> [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > >> To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > >> Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jason LaLiberty
> > >> 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > >> 480-221-9298
> > >> www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jason LaLiberty
> [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > >> To: Michael Wixom
> > >> Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > >> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Mike,
> > >>
> > >> I am going to ask them tomorrow about including
> the diff guards too.
> > >>
> > >> I will let you know.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Jason LaLiberty
> > >> 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > >> 480-221-9298
> > >> www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Michael Wixom
> [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > >> To: jaylalib
> > >> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x
> Doctors Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> What product is this on, I am looking for diff
> guards.
> > >>
> > >> Mike Wixom
> > >> 85 CJ-7
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > >> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > >> Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors
> Rocker Guards
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting
> a group buy together
> > >>> for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if
> you are interested.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> www.fourxdoctor.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jason
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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55995 From: Gary MacLaren <gmaclaren@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:15pm
Subject: BLM Arizona Fire Restrictions 2000.htm
BLM Arizona - Fire Restrictions
The Bureau of Land Management has placed fire restrictions on all of the 11.6 million acres of BLM land in Arizona. These restrictions include:
On Mohave County's Hualapai Mountain Park and other BLM lands in northwestern Arizona overseen by the Kingman Field Office, no open fires are allowed. This includes campfires, barbecue grills using charcoal or wood or any other use of open fires.
On the remaining BLM-managed lands statewide, fires are allowed only in developed camping and picnic areas. Allowable practices there include the use of charcoal in designated or commercially manufactured grills and propane and petroleum-fueled stoves, lanterns or heating devices.
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55996 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:33pm
Subject: RE: Letter to Bush opposing Roadless Rule
I sent a thank you to Stump and Heyworth and letters to all the others (except Pastor who is a waste) asking why they did not sign. I will send on the letter to the White House. Congress.org makes it pretty easy. Jim F.
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member. "Groucho Marx"
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/index.htm/
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@cableaz.com]
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:02 AM
To: mccullen@cableaz.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Letter to Bush opposing Roadless Rule
MORE..............
"copy" & "paste" this letter onto a new letter from you individually.......... write a sentence or paragraph at the bottom to make it "YOURS" and send today!
If we keep up the good work they will have to soon see "we mean business"................ s.
Attached (below) is a letter signed by Thune (SD), Cubin (WY), Hefley, McInnis, Schaffer, and Tancredo (CO), Osborne (NE) and 36 other Representatives to President Bush asking him to oppose attempts to codify or administratively implement the Roadless Area Conservation Rule.
The enviros are working hard to pass legislation that will enact the
Roadless Rule, and I encourage you to thank your Representative for signing this important letter. (Note if your representative has not signed onto this letter, ask him why not. rt)
June 5, 2002
The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20500
Dear President Bush:
We are writing to express our strong opposition to any attempts at this time to codify or administratively implement the Roadless Area Conservation Rule, and we applaud your leadership on this complex issue.
Mr. President, as your Administration continues to formulate an alternative Roadless rule, we urge you to diligently seek out meaningful public input, particularly from the local citizens most directly affected by the process. We also hope that you will continue to work with a broad array of stakeholders, including environmentalists, recreational enthusiasts, state and local foresters, the forests products industry, and other interested parties, in search of a consensus resolution to this divisive issue. Finally, we urge you to carefully weigh the implications of this rule’s impact on our ability to protect at-risk lands from catastrophic wildfire.
As you know, when Federal District Court Judge Edward Lodge blocked implementation of the Roadless Area Conservation Rule last year, he described the rule as "fundamentally flawed" and the rulemaking process as "grossly inadequate." He confirmed that "a Band-aid approach to something this controversial may mask or obscure the symptoms for political purposes but does not address the ‘hard look’ analysis for a cure as required by NEPA [National Environmental Policy Act] before environmentally altering actions are put into effect."
The Court validated what elected officials, local communities and forest user groups had argued throughout the process. Specifically, the Court clearly and correctly pointed out that the previous rule: 1) violated environmental laws; 2) disregarded numerous public notice and comment requirements; and 3) ignored the basic understanding of due process when developing and implementing the rule. Despite these findings, we are concerned that various environmental groups and certain members of Congress continue to push for implementation of the rule.
This case needs to be carefully considered in the courts, and appropriate steps must be taken to ensure that procedural and environmental laws are respected. Any attempt to codify the legally enjoined rule would be tantamount to a Congressional end-run of landmark environmental laws like NEPA.
Thank you for your leadership and your commitment on the issue. We appreciate your recognition of the importance of this process to citizens and communities in all corners of the country, and look forward to working with you in the future on this matter.
Sincerely,
John Thune (SD-AL) Richard Pombo (CA-11)
Scott McInnis (CO-03) William M. Thomas (CA-21)
W.J. (Billy) Tauzin (LA-03) Don Young (AK-AL)
Jack Kingston (GA-01) Gary G. Miller (CA-41)
Barbara Cubin (WY-AL) Mark Green (WI-08)
Doc Hastings (WA-04) Greg Walden (OR-02)
John Boozman (AR-03) Michael K. Simpson (ID-02)
C.L. "Butch" Otter (ID-01) John Cooksey (LA-05)
Jim Gibbons (NV-02) Chris Cannon (UT-03)
George Radanovich (CA-19) Mac Thornberry (TX-13)
Bob Stump (AZ-03) Bob Schaffer (CO-04)
George R. Nethercutt, Jr. (WA-05) Charles H. Taylor (NC-11)
John Peterson (PA-05) John E. Sununu (NH-01)
Jo Ann Emerson (MO-08) Thomas G. Tancredo (CO-06)
Walter Jones (NC-03) Tom Osborne (NE-03)
Mike Ross (AR-04) Dennis R. Rehberg (MT-AL)
Jerry Lewis (CA-40) Ken Calvert (CA-43)
Joel Hefley (CO-05) Duncan Hunter (CA-52)
Wally Herger (CA-02) Joe Skeen (NM-02)
Randy "Duke" Cunningham (CA-51) John J. Duncan, Jr. (TN-02)
John T. Doolittle (CA-04) Elton Gallagly (CA-23)
J.D. Hayworth (AZ-06) Ric Keller (FL-08)
Kevin Brady (TX-08)
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55997 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 11:48am
Subject: Re: Re: Check out Webshots Community - Exo and Engine Cage...
Thanks..now I just need to get going on the rear and my axles. Finally got
a line on the front D60 to match the one I have for the rear. :)
Sharky
55998 From: chris benner <offroadfun@t...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:49pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
Okay so I mis-read the ad, but you don't have start making fun of people
openly. We all started someplace NEW to our jeeps. I'm sure alot of our
members are not as price smart as others but we're here becuase we want to
learn and enjoy offroading with others.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...>
To: "'Michael Wixom'" <h8pvmnt@h...>
Cc: "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 8:29 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> Michael,
>
> For what it is worth, there is nothing wrong with your original post.
> As you said, any idiot...... I can't actually believe someone would
> think a brand new heavy duty diff guard could be bought for $10. Hell,
> you can barely even by the new grade 8 bolts and lock washers for that
> price. I had no problem understanding that the discount would knock
> $1-~$15 off the selling price.
>
> Some folks don't have a clue! LOL
>
> Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris benner [mailto:offroadfun@t...]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 2:38 AM
> To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club; Michael Wixom
> Cc: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
> Well thank you for being an *** in public.
> I replied to it because you made it sound like each unit would be $15 -
> "which is about 10-15.00 per unit". Why not just say the actual price
> less
> the discount? Whatever dude..
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> To: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
>
>
> > I hope you are really not that big of an idiot, Sorry you cant read
> but
> the
> > post said "we need 10 people to get the discount which is about
> 10.00-15.00
> > per unit", why bother to respond with something stupid like that.
> >
> > Mike Wixom
> > 85 CJ-7
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "chris benner" <offroadfun@t...>
> > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Michael Wixom"
> > <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 5:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> >
> >
> > > So your saying the diff guards at this url are $15 each?
> > > http://www.fourxdoctor.com/main/diff_guards/diff_guards.html
> > >
> > > I'll take a front and rear at $15 each, no problem..
> > > sign me up.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Michael Wixom" <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > To: "AZ Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Diff Guards Group Buy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Jason I. Is putting together a group buy on 4xdoctor diff guards,
> we
> > need
> > > > to order ten to get the discount which is about 10-15.00 per unit.
> > Check
> > > > his website below for info.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Laliberty, Jason (SCP)" <Jason.Laliberty@F...>
> > > > To: <h8pvmnt@h...>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:39 AM
> > > > Subject: Diff Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I am going to start a buy on these. We need 10 people to buy. I
> have 3
> > so
> > > > far.
> > > > I will post the info on my site over the weekend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 7:12 PM
> > > > To: Laliberty, Jason (SCP)
> > > > Subject: FW: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jason LaLiberty [mailto:jaylalib1@c...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 6:58 PM
> > > > To: Michael Wixom
> > > > Cc: jaylalib1@c...
> > > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > I am going to ask them tomorrow about including the diff guards
> too.
> > > >
> > > > I will let you know.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jason LaLiberty
> > > > 4x4 GroupBuy.com, LLC
> > > > 480-221-9298
> > > > www.4x4groupbuy.com
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael Wixom [mailto:h8pvmnt@h...]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 2:47 PM
> > > > To: jaylalib
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What product is this on, I am looking for diff guards.
> > > >
> > > > Mike Wixom
> > > > 85 CJ-7
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "jaylalib" <jaylalib1@c...>
> > > > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 11:04 AM
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Group Buy on Four x Doctors Rocker Guards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just wanted to let everyone know, I am getting a group buy
> together
> > > > > for these rockes. Please shoot me an email if you are
> interested.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > www.fourxdoctor.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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55999 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 3:56pm
Subject: Re:theft deterent
How is everyones view on this http://www.autospeed.com/A_0059/P_1/article.html
good?bad?ugly? eh?
94xjoe
56000 From: TRobertsRN <TRobertsRN@e...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:08pm
Subject: test
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56001 From: tjsr4r0cks <tjsr4r0cks@y...>
Date: Mon Jun 10, 2002 4:07pm
Subject: Re: Hard top air flow question
My owners manual states not to operate the vehicle with only the rear
soft top window removed. Exhaust fume backdraft is the reason.
Dave
99 TJ
--- In az_vjc@y..., "mirau" <mirau@h...> wrote:
> I have a 93 YJ with full doors. I recently popped the side glass
> windows out and removed the back glass door from a ratty factory
hard
> top to make a "summer hard top." After running around with a
> windowless hard top like this for a couple days, I noticed a subtle
> exhaust-fumed backdraft into the vehicle.
>
> Is having a hard top with no rear glass the equivalent of having a
> rear window down or back door open, which I was taught not to do
> because it drafts exhaust fumes back into the vehicle? Wouldn't
> safari top users have a similar problem?
>
> I see Jeeps running around with no tops or just bikini tops all the
> time, you'd think this wouldn't be done if exhaust fumes were such
a
> problem. But of course these have no tops at all, so that probably
> makes a difference.
>
> Anyone with knowledge of aerodynamics or slipstreaming??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michelle