Discount Tire - No Props Today

[katvans]

You know how we tend to find a place that gives us good service and keep going back to it even if it is out of the way and/or further than another place? Well that's me today, I went to DT in Fountain Hills even though there are closer ones, but since Rick is gone I have had good service there.

I had my Goodyear G 647 245/70R x 19.5" tires on their 19.5" Vision wheels loaded in the back of my pickup and took them in to be balanced since the last time I had them on to tow with my camper loaded to Ouray and back they had a slight shake. These are expensive truck tires that I bought at DT and have had balanced before at DT in Fountain Hills. Well the manager goes out to check on what I have and comes back in and hands me a memo from corporate dated July 24 that says DT will no longer service 19.5" tires or larger. He says sorry. I say what do you mean sorry, what am I supposed to do, I need these tires balanced, you didn't have any trouble selling them to me. He says I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills. He gives me a name and number at corporate to call since I am the first one to bring in tires to the Fountain Hills DT with this problem and he doesn't know what to do.

Long story a little shorter all the VPs are in a meeting and no one else can help me but I can call a guy named Ed Reed at another number who started this thing and maybe he can help me. Ed was very nice and told me that OSHA determined that DT is not qualified to work on these tires. He did say that if I found another company to balance them that DT would reimburse me the costs if I brought the receipt in to the store. It cost me $52 at Fletchers to get them balanced. I have not taken the receipt in yet and I did not ask yet what DT will do in the future about lifetime balancing on these tires, but you can bet that's next.

Maybe Rick will read this and has something to add.

Does anyone else run 19.5" tires from DT or has anyone else had this problem??

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Not to Bash DT, BUT They cross threaded 2 of my rear lugs prior (friday) to the ck run...guess what........blew sidewall and could not get them off:mad: So,broke one and used brake fluid to remove the other....not fun in 100*+ weather. I filed a internet complaint...more to follow....


Jason

[Stoy]

I took my tires back to DT Band 43rd ave for a balance due to having death woble they balanced them after that didn't fixit took it to the dealership (Power) they went thru the whole front end. Long story short took it bake to DT they ended up replacing the front tires which fixed the problem. To sum up why did DT not notice the tires were starting to wear uneven in the first place?

[Hunter]

Got to love OSHA.

[jporvaz]

My understanding is that there was a major injury in a DT store out of state. As a result, DT has implemented procedures which limit the wheels and tires that they will service. I don't know all the details.

[NVRSTUKXJ]

Got to love OSHA.


OSHA is our friend ;)

[GLEN REAMS]

What happened is one of the tires blew up in someones face causing serious injury.
Rich try calling Big D's truck and auto. DT normally takes in the big tires and sends them straight too him might not be the same story with the FH one tho.. Here is the number
480-969-5403

[FlexyXJ]

You know how we tend to find a place that gives us good service and keep going back to it even if it is out of the way and/or further than another place? Well that's me today, I went to DT in Fountain Hills even though there are closer ones, but since Rick is gone I have had good service there.

I had my Goodyear G 647 245/70R x 19.5" tires on their 19.5" Vision wheels loaded in the back of my pickup and took them in to be balanced since the last time I had them on to tow with my camper loaded to Ouray and back they had a slight shake. These are expensive truck tires that I bought at DT and have had balanced before at DT in Fountain Hills. Well the manager goes out to check on what I have and comes back in and hands me a memo from corporate dated July 24 that says DT will no longer service 19.5" tires or larger. He says sorry. I say what do you mean sorry, what am I supposed to do, I need these tires balanced, you didn't have any trouble selling them to me. He says I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills. He gives me a name and number at corporate to call since I am the first one to bring in tires to the Fountain Hills DT with this problem and he doesn't know what to do.

Long story a little shorter all the VPs are in a meeting and no one else can help me but I can call a guy named Ed Reed at another number who started this thing and maybe he can help me. Ed was very nice and told me that OSHA determined that DT is not qualified to work on these tires. He did say that if I found another company to balance them that DT would reimburse me the costs if I brought the receipt in to the store. It cost me $52 at Fletchers to get them balanced. I have not taken the receipt in yet and I did not ask yet what DT will do in the future about lifetime balancing on these tires, but you can bet that's next.

Maybe Rick will read this and has something to add.

Does anyone else run 19.5" tires from DT or has anyone else had this problem??


Rich, I went in to have the Goodyear RV670 Tires on my Motorhome (19.5") ballanced also and got the same story. When Rick came by the shop for my Monday delivery, I asked him about it. I guess there is some issue with the safety of the 19.5+ tire sizes and the company has decided in the intrest of safety to not do anything with them. If you submit the invoice for balance or anyother work, they will re-imburse you for it. I also got the $$ for my roadhazzard back too. Was I dissapointed?? YES. But in this litigous world we all live in and peple who dont want to take responsibility for thier own actions, we all pay. Just like the abuse of the road hazzard with the off-road tires, it gets abused, and it goes away. Lets face it, when we damage a tire, its OUR OWN FAULT not the tires. Rock Crawling IS NOT A ROAD HAZZARD. I bought the 6 tires for my motorhome new and paid top dollar for them from Discount. I got a great tire for what I thought was a good price.


Joe

[lancetkenyon]

You know how we tend to find a place that gives us good service and keep going back to it even if it is out of the way and/or further than another place? Well that's me today, I went to DT in Fountain Hills even though there are closer ones, but since Rick is gone I have had good service there.

I had my Goodyear G 647 245/70R x 19.5" tires on their 19.5" Vision wheels loaded in the back of my pickup and took them in to be balanced since the last time I had them on to tow with my camper loaded to Ouray and back they had a slight shake. These are expensive truck tires that I bought at DT and have had balanced before at DT in Fountain Hills. Well the manager goes out to check on what I have and comes back in and hands me a memo from corporate dated July 24 that says DT will no longer service 19.5" tires or larger. He says sorry. I say what do you mean sorry, what am I supposed to do, I need these tires balanced, you didn't have any trouble selling them to me. He says I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills. He gives me a name and number at corporate to call since I am the first one to bring in tires to the Fountain Hills DT with this problem and he doesn't know what to do.

Long story a little shorter all the VPs are in a meeting and no one else can help me but I can call a guy named Ed Reed at another number who started this thing and maybe he can help me. Ed was very nice and told me that OSHA determined that DT is not qualified to work on these tires. He did say that if I found another company to balance them that DT would reimburse me the costs if I brought the receipt in to the store. It cost me $52 at Fletchers to get them balanced. I have not taken the receipt in yet and I did not ask yet what DT will do in the future about lifetime balancing on these tires, but you can bet that's next.

Maybe Rick will read this and has something to add.

Does anyone else run 19.5" tires from DT or has anyone else had this problem??

Does this include all the 20s, 22s, 24s, 26s, 30s etc on the sports cars/suvs and pimpmobiles? I was looking to get a set of 20s for my wifes Mustang, but maybe not now.:(

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

I doubt it....They would lose BIG business



Jason

[mingoglia]

Does this include all the 20s, 22s, 24s, 26s, 30s etc on the sports cars/suvs and pimpmobiles? I was looking to get a set of 20s for my wifes Mustang, but maybe not now.:(

I think it's not to do with the size as much as the load range. 19.5" tires are usually in the load range F and G range so if they blow when beading it's not fun. This is why semi tires are typically beaded in a cage just in case they blow.

Mike

[Andrew F]

You know how we tend to find a place that gives us good service and keep going back to it even if it is out of the way and/or further than another place? Well that's me today, I went to DT in Fountain Hills even though there are closer ones, but since Rick is gone I have had good service there.

I had my Goodyear G 647 245/70R x 19.5" tires on their 19.5" Vision wheels loaded in the back of my pickup and took them in to be balanced since the last time I had them on to tow with my camper loaded to Ouray and back they had a slight shake. These are expensive truck tires that I bought at DT and have had balanced before at DT in Fountain Hills. Well the manager goes out to check on what I have and comes back in and hands me a memo from corporate dated July 24 that says DT will no longer service 19.5" tires or larger. He says sorry. I say what do you mean sorry, what am I supposed to do, I need these tires balanced, you didn't have any trouble selling them to me. He says I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills. He gives me a name and number at corporate to call since I am the first one to bring in tires to the Fountain Hills DT with this problem and he doesn't know what to do.

Long story a little shorter all the VPs are in a meeting and no one else can help me but I can call a guy named Ed Reed at another number who started this thing and maybe he can help me. Ed was very nice and told me that OSHA determined that DT is not qualified to work on these tires. He did say that if I found another company to balance them that DT would reimburse me the costs if I brought the receipt in to the store. It cost me $52 at Fletchers to get them balanced. I have not taken the receipt in yet and I did not ask yet what DT will do in the future about lifetime balancing on these tires, but you can bet that's next.

Maybe Rick will read this and has something to add.

Does anyone else run 19.5" tires from DT or has anyone else had this problem??

DT had a zipper failure on a 19.5 they were working on one in the North West and it either maimed the guy for life or killed him, but I am not 100% sure.

I work at a tire shop at 91st Ave and Grand in Peoria called S & S Tire, and we will still work on 19.5s. I know it is a long way, but we do a good job. We are now doing 19.5s for many of the DTs around us and even several that are pretty far away. In addition to that, we are still doing tires on motor homes for the RV repair shop and the RV sales lot next to us, so we handle quite a few 19.5s. Let me know if I can help.

[Andrew F]

Rich, I went in to have the Goodyear RV670 Tires on my Motorhome (19.5") ballanced also and got the same story. When Rick came by the shop for my Monday delivery, I asked him about it. I guess there is some issue with the safety of the 19.5+ tire sizes and the company has decided in the intrest of safety to not do anything with them. If you submit the invoice for balance or anyother work, they will re-imburse you for it. I also got the $$ for my roadhazzard back too. Was I dissapointed?? YES. But in this litigous world we all live in and peple who dont want to take responsibility for thier own actions, we all pay. Just like the abuse of the road hazzard with the off-road tires, it gets abused, and it goes away. Lets face it, when we damage a tire, its OUR OWN FAULT not the tires. Rock Crawling IS NOT A ROAD HAZZARD. I bought the 6 tires for my motorhome new and paid top dollar for them from Discount. I got a great tire for what I thought was a good price.


Joe

The DTs around my shop will still replace a tire under the road hazzard, but they will only give you the tire. You have to take it to another shop to get it mounted and DT foots the bill. I have done two or three of these in the last week.

[FlexyXJ]

Does this include all the 20s, 22s, 24s, 26s, 30s etc on the sports cars/suvs and pimpmobiles? I was looking to get a set of 20s for my wifes Mustang, but maybe not now.:(


Dont worry Lance. You know where to get the bling when ya want it......:)
35's on 22's.....:D

[GLEN REAMS]

Does this include all the 20s, 22s, 24s, 26s, 30s etc on the sports cars/suvs and pimpmobiles? I was looking to get a set of 20s for my wifes Mustang, but maybe not now.:(

From what ive herd they dont do anything over 19.5 even if its bling rims. Id call and double check before making any decisions tho..

[AZG23]

They just did the 20's on the wifes new Xterra....go for it Lance.......!

[Fire Ball]

My cousin worked at a tire place in our home town. Once while mounting a truck tire it blew up and threw him across the garage. He had a major concussion, 3 broken ribs,a broken vertebrae and almost tore his arm off. He had hundreds of stitches and had to have back surgery. He actually flew over a pick up truck in the garage and landed about 20 feet away from where he was standing.

Back then he was probably told to take a couple days off and come back in on Monday :o

[RickBeer]

You know how we tend to find a place that gives us good service and keep going back to it even if it is out of the way and/or further than another place? Well that's me today, I went to DT in Fountain Hills even though there are closer ones, but since Rick is gone I have had good service there.

I had my Goodyear G 647 245/70R x 19.5" tires on their 19.5" Vision wheels loaded in the back of my pickup and took them in to be balanced since the last time I had them on to tow with my camper loaded to Ouray and back they had a slight shake. These are expensive truck tires that I bought at DT and have had balanced before at DT in Fountain Hills. Well the manager goes out to check on what I have and comes back in and hands me a memo from corporate dated July 24 that says DT will no longer service 19.5" tires or larger. He says sorry. I say what do you mean sorry, what am I supposed to do, I need these tires balanced, you didn't have any trouble selling them to me. He says I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills. He gives me a name and number at corporate to call since I am the first one to bring in tires to the Fountain Hills DT with this problem and he doesn't know what to do.

Long story a little shorter all the VPs are in a meeting and no one else can help me but I can call a guy named Ed Reed at another number who started this thing and maybe he can help me. Ed was very nice and told me that OSHA determined that DT is not qualified to work on these tires. He did say that if I found another company to balance them that DT would reimburse me the costs if I brought the receipt in to the store. It cost me $52 at Fletchers to get them balanced. I have not taken the receipt in yet and I did not ask yet what DT will do in the future about lifetime balancing on these tires, but you can bet that's next.

Maybe Rick will read this and has something to add.

Does anyone else run 19.5" tires from DT or has anyone else had this problem??

Rich---Did the manager acutally SAY "YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER TIRE DEALER"
Thats not what they are told to say.. Communication is the key word...He failed major
All stores are to have numerous locations that WILL service your wheel/tires & have a set price for each service ex. flat repairs rotation/balance ect.
Discount tire WILL PAY for all of the services. We contacted every tire company in the valley/Tucson Flagstaff & explained why...They agreed even though they are competors we are not enemies
Last June a young man in Oregon was severly injured by a tire failure.. Doctors gave him 20-30 percent chance to live It has been nearly 2 months now & he is still with us. FYI was a brand new tire that failed
Few weeks later the Yuma store had a motor home stop in just for an "air check" One of the inside duals failed causing the tire tech to be thrown across the parking lot & 2 others on the opposite side of the coach to be knock down
New safety procedures have been made ALL TIRES will be aired up in inflation cages. service will no longer to be done on all LT 19.5 & bigger not even air checks a corp. desission This even affects me My truck has10r22.5.. I am not allowed to put air in my tires I have to stop at a truck stop OR stop in at Big O tire to have the air checked in the Discount tire truck :D
Discount Tire is not the only tire company to implement this & other tire companies will follow suit
There will be some customers upset It is up to us to explain to our customers why & safety is our goal
I have been in the tire business for 23 years now I had 3 major tires explosions on me. I lost count on how many tires that blew up in the shops I worked in those 23 years & attended 2 funerals from tire failures
Both my sons work for Discount Tire now, I could not amagine if one of my kids would lose an eye or a finger,arm or worse killed

[katvans]

Rich---Did the manager acutally SAY "YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER TIRE DEALER"
Thats not what they are told to say.. Communication is the key word...He failed major
All stores are to have numerous locations that WILL service your wheel/tires & have a set price for each service ex. flat repairs rotation/balance ect.
Discount tire WILL PAY for all of the services. We contacted every tire company in the valley/Tucson Flagstaff & explained why...They agreed even though they are competors we are not enemies
Last June a young man in Oregon was severly injured by a tire failure.. Doctors gave him 20-30 percent chance to live It has been nearly 2 months now & he is still with us. FYI was a brand new tire that failed
Few weeks later the Yuma store had a motor home stop in just for an "air check" One of the inside duals failed causing the tire tech to be thrown across the parking lot & 2 others on the opposite side of the coach to be knock down
New safety procedures have been made ALL TIRES will be aired up in inflation cages. service will no longer to be done on all LT 19.5 & bigger not even air checks a corp. desission This even affects me My truck has10r22.5.. I am not allowed to put air in my tires I have to stop at a truck stop OR stop in at Big O tire to have the air checked in the Discount tire truck :D
Discount Tire is not the only tire company to implement this & other tire companies will follow suit
There will be some customers upset It is up to us to explain to our customers why & safety is our goal
I have been in the tire business for 23 years now I had 3 major tires explosions on me. I lost count on how many tires that blew up in the shops I worked in those 23 years & attended 2 funerals from tire failures
Both my sons work for Discount Tire now, I could not amagine if one of my kids would lose an eye or a finger,arm or worse killed

No, what the manager actually said was "I guess you will have to find another tire dealer who will service them but there are none in Fountain Hills." "We have already checked with Goodyear here and they will not do them" " I don't know what to tell you since you are the first one to bring 19.5" tires to this store since the memo came out but we will do something" I asked what does that mean you will do something? He says "It means I will find out what to do about this in the future" I say that does not help me today, please give me a name & number to call at corporate. I went out to the parking lot and called, when I finally got to Ed Reed he said that this was handled poorly but could not tell me where to go for the work, only that DT will reimburse me if I brought my receipt back to the store.

If DT has set places to take these tires for service and set rates for the various services, this manager had no idea besides to say I'm sorry and left it up to me to find a place to service them.

In retrospect I should have asked him to call corporate and find out what I should do, but as I have said Ed Reed also had no idea where I should look for service. He actually told me I should find a dealer that is competent and that I trust.

I run 85# in these tires when loaded and 55 to 60# when not loaded and now after reading your post I am kinda nervous about airing them up myself. Are there any precautions I can take when airing up in my garage??

[lancetkenyon]

Rich---Did the manager acutally SAY "YOU HAVE TO FIND ANOTHER TIRE DEALER"
Thats not what they are told to say.. Communication is the key word...He failed major
All stores are to have numerous locations that WILL service your wheel/tires & have a set price for each service ex. flat repairs rotation/balance ect.
Discount tire WILL PAY for all of the services. We contacted every tire company in the valley/Tucson Flagstaff & explained why...They agreed even though they are competors we are not enemies
Last June a young man in Oregon was severly injured by a tire failure.. Doctors gave him 20-30 percent chance to live It has been nearly 2 months now & he is still with us. FYI was a brand new tire that failed
Few weeks later the Yuma store had a motor home stop in just for an "air check" One of the inside duals failed causing the tire tech to be thrown across the parking lot & 2 others on the opposite side of the coach to be knock down
New safety procedures have been made ALL TIRES will be aired up in inflation cages. service will no longer to be done on all LT 19.5 & bigger not even air checks a corp. desission This even affects me My truck has10r22.5.. I am not allowed to put air in my tires I have to stop at a truck stop OR stop in at Big O tire to have the air checked in the Discount tire truck :D
Discount Tire is not the only tire company to implement this & other tire companies will follow suit
There will be some customers upset It is up to us to explain to our customers why & safety is our goal
I have been in the tire business for 23 years now I had 3 major tires explosions on me. I lost count on how many tires that blew up in the shops I worked in those 23 years & attended 2 funerals from tire failures
Both my sons work for Discount Tire now, I could not amagine if one of my kids would lose an eye or a finger,arm or worse killed

So RIck, does this just mean the Light Truck tires, and NOT the low pro style for pass/sport cars?

[RickBeer]

LT Meaning light truck 6ply or higher load index starting at 104

[jeeper05]

I run 85# in these tires when loaded and 55 to 60# when not loaded and now after reading your post I am kinda nervous about airing them up myself. Are there any precautions I can take when airing up in my garage??
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Rich (in the Creek)
Rich we run 11r22.5s on our semi with 105 psi loadd or empty. At 80#psi they are considered flat and most truckstops wont put air in them due to potential tire failure.I think you are asking for trouble fluctuating your air pressure like that,but hey what do I know Im a truckdriver not a tire tech. so it may not apply to your situation.

[RickBeer]

http://http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=13212&stc=1&d=1187835736Rich as long as you were unloaded no camper or trailer just the truck itself you should be fine
Be on the look out for any discoloration on the sidewalls this could be a sign of low air pressure & the sidewall may have internal damage other than that until tire goes BOOM you will never know if there is sidewall damage causing a zipper effect on the sidewall stand to the side when airing up your tires


http://www.retread.org/packet/index.cfm/ID/178.htm

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Discount called today..they are willing to fix my broken lugs......


Thats good service!

Jason

[katvans]

I run 85# in these tires when loaded and 55 to 60# when not loaded and now after reading your post I am kinda nervous about airing them up myself. Are there any precautions I can take when airing up in my garage??
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Rich (in the Creek)
Rich we run 11r22.5s on our semi with 105 psi loadd or empty. At 80#psi they are considered flat and most truckstops wont put air in them due to potential tire failure.I think you are asking for trouble fluctuating your air pressure like that,but hey what do I know Im a truckdriver not a tire tech. so it may not apply to your situation.

85 psi cold is the max listed pressure on my tires. If I run an empty pickup with 85# in the tires it bounces all over the place and rides like a "truck" :D

Without a load it certainly doesn't look like there is any sidewall flex at 55#

Rick...thanks for the info and I will be more careful airing up from now on.

[cross_007]

I am confused...still new to this....so does discount still sell and service 33x12.5xR15 tires anymore??? Is it the tire diameter (as in nothing larger than a 19.5" tire) or is it rim size? If they will not deal with 33" tires anymore, does anyone know a good place in teh East Valley? Chris

[DesertX04]

Discount called today..they are willing to fix my broken lugs......


Thats good service!

Jason

Are they going to do the work? :eek: I'm not sure they're shops are set up for something like that???

[Washington_XJ]

Rich- It doesnt sound like DT's problem, albeit their manager might not have given you the best customer service but OSHA is really the one to blame. Also I have to say that we have used DT exclusively for new tires/wheels over the past many years in multiple states and I hold very high regard for them- and not just offroader's, Toyota sedans, our BMW and Eagle Talon both quick as snot cars. Whenever we had a problem with wheel balancing or tire ware they were always quick and painless to deal with. The best DT I've ever delt with is the one off Gilbert and Baseline, their manager Moe is an awesome guy and will take care of anything for you.

Now I understand that your situation is a tad bit different having 19.5's to deal with but I'm sure DT will honor their end of the deal by reimbursing you. As for sports cars you shouldnt be putting 20's on in the first place, anything larger than 18's and performance and road handling will decrease...unless of course you want to look like a ghetto hopper.

[tywilson88]

when you say 19.5 inch tires, are you talking about the width of the tire.. or are you talking about the rim size? if rim size, why would you get 19.5 inch rims and not 19's or 20's

[GLEN REAMS]

I am confused...still new to this....so does discount still sell and service 33x12.5xR15 tires anymore??? Is it the tire diameter (as in nothing larger than a 19.5" tire) or is it rim size? If they will not deal with 33" tires anymore, does anyone know a good place in teh East Valley? Chris

its rim size. Your good with your 33 R15

[katvans]

Rich- It doesnt sound like DT's problem, albeit their manager might not have given you the best customer service but OSHA is really the one to blame. Also I have to say that we have used DT exclusively for new tires/wheels over the past many years in multiple states and I hold very high regard for them- and not just offroader's, Toyota sedans, our BMW and Eagle Talon both quick as snot cars. Whenever we had a problem with wheel balancing or tire ware they were always quick and painless to deal with. The best DT I've ever delt with is the one off Gilbert and Baseline, their manager Moe is an awesome guy and will take care of anything for you.

Now I understand that your situation is a tad bit different having 19.5's to deal with but I'm sure DT will honor their end of the deal by reimbursing you. As for sports cars you shouldnt be putting 20's on in the first place, anything larger than 18's and performance and road handling will decrease...unless of course you want to look like a ghetto hopper.

Xan

OSHA may be the one to blame but it is DT's problem as you can tell by reading Rick's posts and I didn't buy my tires from OSHA.

I also have been dealing with DT for many years, 24 to be exact and aside from a few small things not being done properly over the years, which will happen at any dealer, I have no other complaints. I'll just have to see how this plays out, I haven't taken my receipt in yet from Fletchers and due to an emergency I will be in Indiana for the next week. I plan on going north Aug 30 or 31 at which time I will swing by the FH store and present my receipt. I'll post whatever happens.

I will not address the sports car part of your post since I don't own one.

[Hardline]

due to an emergency I will be in Indiana for the next week.

Hope that all turns out ok, Rich.

[katvans]

when you say 19.5 inch tires, are you talking about the width of the tire.. or are you talking about the rim size? if rim size, why would you get 19.5 inch rims and not 19's or 20's

My question would be why do they even make a 19.5" tire & rim? Why doesn't the industry just offer these load ranges in the 19 &/or 20". I don't know but this was the only size available to get me the load range I needed and overall tire diameter I wanted.

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Are they going to do the work? :eek: I'm not sure they're shops are set up for something like that???


NOPE.....They will send me to a shop..maybe my shop:D

Jason

[Craig]

My question would be why do they even make a 19.5" tire & rim? Why doesn't the industry just offer these load ranges in the 19 &/or 20". I don't know but this was the only size available to get me the load range I needed and overall tire diameter I wanted.

Long before Bling was the thing, 19.5" and 22.5" wheels were and still are used in "medium" duty and up trucks for the weight handling capabilities. Why is it an industry standard? Couldn't tell ya. :confused:

I do have some 19.5" Ricksons to fit a Superduty for sale, if anyone is looking for some. :D

[tywilson88]

oh so that is the only size that you can get a higher load range then E. that sounds like a stupid idea by the rim, and the tire companies

[RickBeer]

NOPE.....They will send me to a shop..maybe my shop:D

Jason

Tell me about it I my new tires on my Jeep on Tuesday & I stripped one of my own studs about half way off it froze (damn) must have been the last idiot who worked on it WAIT it was me I rotated my tires last & the time before that NOW who do I blame ?::rolleyes:
In my tool box at home I have a few extra studs Having 4 jeeps it is one of those things I have laying around cost under 5 bucks time 5 minutes took me longer to jack up the Jeep & pull the wheel off.. If it is the front wheel It will take 10 min. to fix
**** happens things ware out,things break I am sure nobody did it on purpose but I am sure they offered to fix it for free.. HELL I will fix it for you for FREE

[Jdemonto@Airpark Jeep Sales]

Tell me about it I my new tires on my Jeep on Tuesday & I stripped one of my own studs about half way off it froze (damn) must have been the last idiot who worked on it WAIT it was me I rotated my tires last & the time before that NOW who do I blame ?::rolleyes:
In my tool box at home I have a few extra studs Having 4 jeeps it is one of those things I have laying around cost under 5 bucks time 5 minutes took me longer to jack up the Jeep & pull the wheel off.. If it is the front wheel It will take 10 min. to fix
**** happens things ware out,things break I am sure nobody did it on purpose but I am sure they offered to fix it for free.. HELL I will fix it for you for FREE

Thanks Rick, Bill is sending me to a shop and took good care of me (4ave/Bell rd)


Jason

[Steve]

Tell me about it I my new tires on my Jeep on Tuesday & I stripped one of my own studs about half way off it froze (damn) must have been the last idiot who worked on it WAIT it was me I rotated my tires last & the time before that NOW who do I blame ?::rolleyes:
In my tool box at home I have a few extra studs Having 4 jeeps it is one of those things I have laying around cost under 5 bucks time 5 minutes took me longer to jack up the Jeep & pull the wheel off.. If it is the front wheel It will take 10 min. to fix
**** happens things ware out,things break I am sure nobody did it on purpose but I am sure they offered to fix it for free.. HELL I will fix it for you for FREE


Good to here from you Rick. Hope your retirement is going well.:D

[Antman]

Even though you were inconvienced Rich, you still have to understand that
OSHA is doing this to protect the workers. DT has chosen to follow the demand, or regulation with good reason because if there is an accident in a DT shop now envolving this rim size and someone gets hurt...............BIG BIG fine, not to mention the law suits, with possible even someone going to jail.

OSHA is there to protect the worker from their employers. Your boss can't send you into a hazardess situation with proper knowledge and training to protect you.

IF in fact there is a regulation to this effect on these tire sizes, it may be that
DT has shutdown handling them until their people can be properly trained and
given the proper equipment to handle them.

[lancetkenyon]

OK, but how about this BS......went out today and had a total flat on my truck. Broke out the compessor and hose, and started airing up. Got to about 30 PSI, and heard the air escaping. Hole was on the bottom, so had to pull the truck up a bit to see it. No big deal, musta run over a nail, and it came out. It was leaking fast enough I didn't think I would make it the 2 miles to DT. So I throw a quick plug in it, stop the leak and air it up. Go to DT, and the guy at the counter asks if I plugged it. I told him I had to or I wouldn't have made it. He says,"We can't fix a tire that has been plugged by you. You will have to get a new tire." WHAT??? He says it will be covered by my warranty, but I will have to buy a new warranty for $65! "Oh, and we don't have any in the state, so I will have to order one. Should be here in about a week and a half." So a $.05 plug to get a tire fixed, is gonna cost me $65.:mad: BS at it finest. What is up with THAT Rick?

[Craig]

Lance, go to a differnt Discount and pull the plug in the parking lot. :D

[lancetkenyon]

Lance, go to a differnt Discount and pull the plug in the parking lot. :D

Gonna do that tomorrow.

[TAGIPURIT!!!]

Discount tire is a joke.......:rolleyes:

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